/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

New-ish to digital painting, here's my wip. How am I doing?

>>1521456

GOing outside the realm of knights I dont like him like him but I like him shiggidy diggity?

>>1521456
to see that shit every day a couple of times was not enough. OP in a draw thread is the goal.
Shit. I'm going to post nothing in this edition.

>>1521472

why u gotta hate brah ;,,,(

doesn't do anyone any good.

>>1521477
he's kind of right. dude polished this turd for 2 weeks then paints over/ adopts the redline. holy shit.

hai

wip

Trying to self-portrait on tablet for the first time (while looking at a mirror). having a hell of a time doing it. in a bad way.

>>1521481
holy shit. it looked like a photo while it was loading on my screen. damn, anon.

>>1521485
Is that Jackie Chan?

>>1521481
Is that your workstation?

>>1521488
nope just a miserably failed attempt at drawing my own face. the line art looked promising, but when I tried to lay down the values...

>>1521481
That is unbelievable. Where can I see more of your stuff?

>>1521490

Yes.

>>1521493

http://chromatinker.deviantart.com

OP, just call it a night on your painting. Or at least take a break from it and work on other things.

>>1521472
3-4 days have passed since my last update. I did overpost at first and I'm sorry about that.

The mods can always delete this one if they deem it proper.

>>1521480

I didn't receive a redline for this one. the paint overs did help me to see what was wrong, so I'm grateful about that however I didn't adopt them.

See it for yourself: >>1517847

ArtRage overlay painting is kind of disappointing I think I will leave it in grayscale.

>>1521466

I like the soft look of the fabrics, her left side seems a bit uneven ...I think... reference?

>>1521507
>The mods can always delete this one if they deem it proper.
There are no mods on /ic/.

If I have to look at OP's shitty fucking portrait one more time on this board, I'm going to go insane. Stop. Posting. It.

>>1521507
Just wondering. Have you worked on anything else other than this picture over the past weeks? Or have you JUST been working on this? If no, lets see it.

as of right now, you're not learning anything besides rendering and you don't need to learn that skill quite yet.

plein air

>>1521481
christ, you remind me of mike. so prolific. and depressing.

posted in in previous one but I guess the thread got burned.Re-post
Portret,what else...

>>1521546
*beautiful

>>1521529
berry good

trees, man...so beautifully yet hard to draw and paint...

>>1521510
mods are global, dumb fucker. Where did this idea of board mods even come from?


o. cancer.

>>1521481

that's quite impressive but i don't see much point in it. i think you would learn more doing plenty of smaller focused studies

>>1521561
>not even checking his da

>>1521529
heres another. challenging shit.

>>1521546
keep a loos arm and try much loose loose contour drawing of trees, ganbare!

>>1521565

i did. herpdiderp. also i've known about him for a while, i remember seeing the image he posted on the ca.org facebook page a long time ago.

>>1521587
>>1521529

How do you guys do digital plen air?

>>1521561

>plenty of smaller focused studies

eh. been there, done that, needed a challenge.

>>1521595
slate tablet, stool, battery pack, numpad, umbrella w/stand. and dont forget thermos and packed lunch.
i've grown tired of the digital restrictions and really recommend traditional —watercolour, pencil, oil— instead in most cases.. something i really struggle with/fear myself

>FiRez made a draw thread with that turd he's been polishing for 3 weeks now

kill me

>>1521468
I would love to watch you work, man.

>>1521587
>>1521529
Nice stuff Olly.

blah

>>1521632

If I streamed it would be in the middle of the night since I work nightshift... THis internet isnt exactly fast so the quality would be horrid. I dont mind streaming though it would at least keep me focused.

In other words sure why not

incomplete study of >>1521410

>>1521507
their shoulders seem...tiny?

idunnoigaveupiguess

I painted my friends drawing. Ignoring the line art, how is my coloring? I think I have an over reliance on textures.

>>1521689
I like it.

>>1521649
Awesome. Anytime you want, just give the word. I'm always lurking.

>>1521529
>>1521587

nice. got a website/blog?

>>1521729
>not recognizing olly's style

derpdiherping

anyone else like to clutter their workspace with inspiration and references? lol

>>1521730

this.

oh god what am i doing. I have no idea how to paint, but i tried anyways.

I know i need to fix the horizon, anything else stand out? (besides it obviously being shit)

Trying to beef up my portfolio with something that I can actually see getting published. Just a quick sketch for an idea here, some sort of generic image haha, big golden sword and armour, badass guy, typical fantasy colours haha.

I dunno...just trying to get a solid composition and colour/value structure here. Thoughts?

>>1521752
Jesus, that is nearly identical to an old image I did a paintover of. Maybe this will help you out a bit. I dunno, I did this paintover like a year ago haha, figured I'd post it up for you.

Just try to get cleaner shapes and more interesting shapes, a better value read, and try to push a focal point I guess. Maybe you can pick a few more things out of the attached image.

>>1521767
holy shit that's spooky.. it's like the same color palette and everything

thanks for the post, I'm starting to see what you're talking about with the focal point. Mine is pretty sloppy, but I guess that's expected of a first attempt.

A couple of sub hour long concepts I did for some items for Huskarr in Dota 2. If you think I'm bad with a tablet, you wouldn't imagine how much worse I am with Blender and ZBrush.

Reposted from previous thread, looking for crits

>>1521794
rendering is quite nice. the perspective on the stairs seems off for me and her pose feels awkward and rigid. something is off with her entire upper, like half of her torso went missing .

>>1521794
You're getting ahead of yourself with textures and detail. I think you should take a step back and re-evaluate your value organization. Here is a quick paintover showing how you might want to simplify the value structure so the image has a clear read. Currently it is too dark overall and not well defined.

Also, I am not a fan of the soft brush over the lights like that. Be careful too to not have pure white highlights then everything else pure black. get some nice middle values in there, even if the painting is low key.

Oh, and the staircase looks a bit funny. I think it might be a bit steep or something, I dunno.

>>1521794

there's something weird going on with the pillars and the staircases in terms of perspective

Duveneck master copy... I feel like I learned a thing or two on brushwork and texture stuff here. Now I just gotta get this same level of brushwork in my personal stuff.

meh, why not. I need some more useful tips on doing digital art properly

>>1521764
his gesture is pretty stiff as far as i can tell right now. he's standing too straight, make his head lean more to the left. or any direction, really.
try to give the pose a bit more depth later.

Still have some final fine tune .

sketch

the moment I complete any of my images is when the earth splits in two and midget demon babies spew acid on bowls of spaghetti

PLEASE HELP

i wanted to paint a asian girl for my mothers birthday
But some things are really off but i cant tell what

>>1521481
Holy shit, that's amazing

>>1521956

i cant scan this bc the paint is wet

>>1521510
Mods are global dude, and yeah I was banned once on /ic/, so some mods come here I guess

>>1521529
Beautiful colors

>>1521691
There are much more colors to skin than brown, and peach. I had a tutorial on coloring skin a while back but I lost it, if anyone could poast that, thanks.
By the way, the light should cast hard shadows on objects that are blocking it. Use more tones for shading and shining things too, it's not only the dodge and burn tool bud.

>>1521918
Knight : holy shit!! Why do I need to do such a stupid pose in that blizzard!! fuck fuck fuck!!

>>1521794
among the other flaws anons pointed out,she doesn't have a facial expression or body expression.

>>1521481
At first I was like

>Why is this guy posting a photograph of his workstation?

Then I was like

>Holy shit!

>>1521481
I like this!

How should I be refining this splotchy mess? Do I zoom in and do meticulous details? Should I outline everything first?

>>1521561
>retard of the week

proof that you can't get stupider than this

Pretty barren

>>1521730
whos olly? not a troll, i'm just not on /ic/ very often

Why is Animu the thread image?

>>1521466
>New-ish to digital painting

Lay off the soft brush for now, noobs like you tend to abuse it and it's the number one reason why your drawing looks like shit

>>1521688
It's shitty fucking Animu

>>1521959
>>1521956

Yea everything is off.. the eyes, nose, mouth, chin, you'll have you scrap it sorry. Or maybe save yourself from giving her a painting at all to save yourself from an awkward situation

>>1522205
the lines are blurred. it's all blurred. animu is draw, draw is sketch, sketch is animu.

about to overwork this so im done

>>1521847
progress and 3 hours in

>>1522248
*time all together is 3 hours

recommend me a good book about colour and light and stuff? I need help with that.

>>1522255
color and light by James Gurney

>>1522246
>overwork
But it doesn't read at all nor does it have any focus points?

>>1522259

Fair enough. I just don't want to toy around with it any longer and make it a mass, yknow? Where would you put focus?

>>1522268
it's YOUR piece isn't it?

>>1522268
I think you should refine the shapes most of all. You've come up with an idea of a scene with some light, but you haven't really painted anything with it. Show the shapes and material of his body, armor, helmet, horns.

Make your idea more clear to us. Focus should probably be helmet or whatever he is holding, what is actually interesting about him?

>>1522272
True. Still interested in how people perceive things, though. 'Hey, there's no focus' is pretty cool crit because it's like 'oh, huh, wonder where I can make a focal point more prominent' type of thing

>>1522277
Well you've got a pretty iconic composition going on so your best bet would be making the front-most character your focal point.

Any digital artist who like to draw on Linux here? What programs do you use? I'd like to just plug in my tablet and draw without having to reboot into Windows every time.

>>1522301
I tried using Ubuntu way back, but I gave up after I got the advice to "program my own drivers". It was some years back so I hope someone managed to do it, but I really don't think Linux is made for artists.

>>1521688

It was a placeholder and I also wanted to retain some stylization but didn't quite achieve it.

>>1522205
>>1522209

Vocaloid != Anime

>>1522237
I didn't use the sharpest brush available but it's far from being blurry.

>>1522313
http://vimeo.com/6143607
This is done entirely on linux.

I don't want to do heavy stuff, just some sketches. Also, the support for my tablet is pretty good, I only had to write a script to limit the area to only one monitor.

I went with MyPaint for now, seems okay so far.

>>1522321
I doubt I will convert back to Linux anytime soon, but that's quite nice. The brains are more important than the tools after all!

>>1521507
always be careful about rendering stylized stuff.
because usually a stylized coloring will fit much better.
you eitehr go real or you go the cartoon way. don't go the inbetween route, that's where the uncanny valley is.

>>1522324
True. Still doesn't help me over the fact I can't draw half as good digitally as with a regular pencil. Welp.

>>1522321
Have you tried Krita? I haven't myself, since I don't have my tablet around since I switched to GNU/Linux, but I heard good things about it. You can get it in the Ubuntu software center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIQqSlXq5Z4

>>1522327
Practice!

>>1522328
Yes, I have. But it was some time ago and I remember it always crashing on me, which was very annoying. I'll maybe give it a shot again.

>>1521507
Here's the ref

From imagination vip
I dont really know how to approach more detailed work, any tips on how to develop this out or i just have to study shit up to learn how to do it? I'm not really expirienced with colors, especially digital

>>1522201
Olly is tehmeh
https://www.fb.me/ollyart

>>1522201
Olly is tehmeh
http://www.fb.me/ollyart

>>1521967
If I do what you say someone it going to tell me not to use pure black for shadows.

Also I never touched the Burn/dodge tool, Just Saiyan

First tablet hour after six months.
I have no fucking idea of what I'm doing.

>>1522325
Thanks, I´m learning it the hard way so I will take it into consideration next time.

I still like it it´s just a shame that I can´t find a proper way to add colour.

Perhaps this time the lower part looks ok, dimension-wise of course, I really need a reference for this kind of dress.

>>1522339
I think you really need to start adding much more darker values, the left side of her face could be a bit thinner, the jaw on the right side shows a more acute angle than the one on your painting and I think you can afford to show the other teeth.

>>1522364
use hard edge brushes

I always used sai now im trying to get used to photoshop.
Most of the time i draw anime and that fcked my view on anatomy up a lot. any tips?

>>1521967
Was it this one?

http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm#skin_tones

>>1522325
Thanks, I´m learning it the hard way so I will take it into consideration next time.

I still like it it´s just a shame that I can´t find a proper way to add colour.

Perhaps this time the lower part looks ok, dimension-wise of course, I really need a reference for this kind of dress.

>>1522339
I think you really need to start adding much more darker values, the left side of her face could be a bit thinner, the jaw on the right side shows a more acute angle than the one on your painting and I think you can afford to show the other teeth.

>>1522386
I like the thumbnail, the full-sized image looks horrific.

In the thumbnail, the character's eyes look fine and they seem to look at the viewer.

heres this

>>1522355
Oh shit, I've been trying to find him

>>1522399
I like this a lot

Oh jesus.
>these artists
It's shit compared to your guy's art but here's a sketch I made for a friend.

A WIP, took me about 2 and a half hour so far.
Opinions and critique is welcomed. I'm pretty sure the anatomy is fucked up.

All in all it's still very rough and sketchy, and haven't gotten to shading it yet. But maybe I should keep it sketchy? It doesn't look so bad I guess.

head doodles

>>1522405
It really is. I don't know where to start, Anon. Head is small, her torso and arms are very long and her feet look pretty fucked as well. You also obviously hid the hands. Work on that line confidence as well.

I'd recommend that you read some Loomis and Vilppu and do some quick gesture drawings.

>>1522407
Nice, I really like your style.

>>1522408
Thanks for the tips.

I made her head a little bit bigger, and removed some of the length of her torso/arms. Not quite sure about how to fix the legs/feet though. Haven't adjusted the color yet, so black and white will have to do. Compare it to the other one, and see how it's changed. Oh, and I also made her right hand more visible. Keeping her left hand in the robe, because that's kind of where I want it to be.

Still have a long way to go...

So... How should I improve my shading? It's probably my weakest point.

>>1522444
bigger brushes, spend more time

>>1522444
Use a bigger brush.

Also shadows follows the form of the object..

The info on this pic should be taken into consideration too.

>>1522387
I fucked up some things with the new values but I would say it´s an improvement over the last update.

>>1522465
You misunderstood me. It doesn't look bad, it looks horrifying.

>>1521481
Absolutely amazing! It looks so realistic.

The computer, too, it's just.. wow. Great job.

>>1522416
Your anatomy is still fucked. Her whole body gets smaller and smaller as it goes up to the head. The head is still too small, neck too short, shoulders should be wider than the chest, chest should idealistic be as wide as the hips. Her right forearm looks to be half the length of her arm, they should be the same length.

As the other anon suggested, you should read up on anatomy and gestures.

>>1522462
>>1522465
Any info digital shading in particular or a good guide to it? I find it very hard to choose the right settings for the brushes.

>>1522482
nah, use the first ones and play around with them.

have some fun before you start studying or researching

>>1522482

Opacity and flow set to pen pressure. Flow set to around 70%. This is a good setting for blending. Keep in mind that about half of any sphere will be shadowed, depending on the view point.

I know the anatomy , perspective and armor design is shitty .
This is a event of a facebook group and I need to draw a paladin in full armor within a week.
I admit I did want to use the armor to hide anatomy and perspective feature....

BTW, how to draw better metal ?? The armor seems a bit strange......

>>1522487
With snow version.
Not knowing how to draw snow.
And the face is off I think. Hope someone can redline the face.......

Here's another character creation i'm trying to do. Is the pose Ok?

Channing tatum... Idk what, but somethings not right, help me put my finger on it??

>>1522537
He's sideways.

>>1522541
Thats just my phine uploading the image stupidly...

>>1522537
d-did you charcoal the whole background?!???!

>>1522592
i cant stop laughing

>>1522537

you hardlined the abs and chest too much
the face is perfect though

>>1522523
Update.

Getting back into drawing after a couple of years. My first attempt.

>>1522399
really nice

>>1522379
update

>>1522399
>>1522399
>>1522399

catbib?

current catbib detection rating: 1/3

>>1522379
>>1522652
Is she supposed to look like a retarded mutant?

>>1522660
nope,she s a ghost

critique anyone?

zzz I need to be more daring

Probably the farthest I've gotten on a piece in the last few months. A lot of things left to fix, one major element being the torso bothering me. Then at some point I have to go back and figure out the eye placement, it's a big weak point for me. Thoughts?

>>1522675

stop doing portrets with headphones plz.This is the cancer of portret studying.Then people end up drawing heads with fish ears...

Should probably get around to scanning this.

>>1522683
i WAS gonna draw ears, but I decided to put it on because...I don't know

>>1522399
Sexy

>>1522246
>overwork
But it looks really underworked, HEHE

>>1522405
>2 and a half hour so far
>I'm pretty sure the anatomy is fucked up
>It doesn't look so bad I guess

You're trolling r-right?

>>1522416
See this shit? It's chicken scratch, stop it, l2draw a smooth line

>>1522424
Wow, still looks pretty great, tho!

Referenced from a cosplay, I rarely finish my art, figured that it's always shit.

Even so, here it is. I'm trying to diminish the outline by slowly increase the color value, but sometimes it backfired. Thus, the longer I dabbled in one's work, the darker it became. Any criticism is greatly appreciated.

>>1522711
to soft bro. more thick hard brushes would do you good.

>>1522401
>>1522636
>>1522703
Thanks. It's my first study in 7 months.

>>1522656
No, sorry. He's better than me.

>>1522724
I thought as much, I'm using Tablet Sketchbook Pro. Not much for it's mechanic, but the basics are there. Fiddling most of the tool is a hassle.

I have to admit, I'm kinda new in the digital illustration, back then I'm focusing more on the outline, but man, that won't do no good to me now, haha

I thought the main point is to remove most of the hard lines to get a good color transition, that's why I soften most of the value.

I didn't spend too much time on the ground part, so I think it looks a little mismatched. But I wasn't originally planning on doing any kind of background.

>>1522690
now, do it from imagination!

WIP of the Kaidonovskys

>>1522729

andrew then! it must be you.

>>1522764
I think the woman's head is too small.
But still acceptable if it is some kind of "style"

How am I doing? Should I continue?

>>1522705
I was talking about the anatomy being fucked up, And I said the whole sketchy-ness looked good.

>You're trolling r-right?

>>1522791
Yes.

>>1522652
too much forehead. lips are a little strange

>>1522764
>Only saw the movie yesterday
It was amazing

>>1522791
if you have to ask, then no.

Trying something new

WIP. attempting to make a more realistic version of captain levi from SnK. crits welcome and needed

>>1521481
Your studies are amazing but your imagination stuff needs work.

How is my composition?

I suck dick compared to you guys, but whatever. Blindly doodling is fun

WIP poster for energy drink
inb4 racial stereotpyes

>>1522885
tiny arms

>>1522886
das racist

>>1522784
I think its just the armor that makes her head look small.

This was hard

>>1521847

I know I fucked up the head. Still, critiques are appreciated. WIP

>>1522839
its working. sexy.

>>1522856
i'd put the warrior a little farther into the painting (just a tad, maybe on the next vertebrae) and increase the contrast around him so he reads faster

>>1522885
>>1522886
Seconded. Make sure you plot out the ribcage and pelvis so that you have useful landmarks for getting the arms the right length.

Also keep in mind that black people tend to have longer limbs (an adaptation that helps dissipate body heat).

Copying some george petty stuff to get the hang of this classic pin ups thing.

having a lot of troubles with edge control, any help?

Argh, I tried my best... Advice?
I get told on /ic/ to "blend smoother" but how do I do that best? I often just go between the lines with a 50% brush until they mix, but it doesn't always work out either. Soft brush just looks really strange.

>>1523077

Soft brush on very low opacity, 10-20%. I use a square shaped airbrush which works much better than the circle.

Constant-noref-portrait-guy here.

More noref portrait bullshit!
Spent a couple of hours on this one using a new technique. How'd I do?

>>1523151
Flat. Maybe because shit lighting or too much softness

>>1523155
>no idea what they're talking about

You just need to add darker values to offset your lighter ones. Particularly the neck area, where there is little to no light hitting between the hair and neck.

>>1523155
I'd also appreciate crits on my anatomy and all that jazz. There's probably some glaring error going on that I can't see.

Lighting probably is shit, I need to know if that is sort of how the light would fall given a full-frontal-sliiiightly to the right lightsource.

>>1523162
Your hair is boring and formless, also she has an incredibly receded hairline and no hair coming down beside her ears which makes it look like a wig. The ponytail/thing looks too soft and pretty shapeless which I think is what's really pulling away from your depth

>>1523151
It's mostly okayish but needs more definition. Happy that you could do it in a couple of hours tho, I'm slow as shit.

so, issues:
hair has no flow, it's just a blob
generally feels a bit blobby, use harder brushes
a bit flat on the shadows on the back

and yeah, super high hairline.

>>1523162
Next time you might want to try lighting that gives more form. Check some master paintings and pick the one you like, or whatever. It will make your work look better and it should be easier too.

Thanks for all the tips, working on a revised version where I have fixed or at least somewhat mended everything mentioned.

/ic/ is great!

>>1523077
there are two ways to do it!
one is being the one the other anon mentioned. Using a very soft round brush at low opactiy and sloooowly blending them together, be careful not to ruin our edges though!

The other possibillity is more work heavy.
Learn how to describe form with brushstrokes.
You did okay on that, but could be way better.
make use of the transfer option and use a square brush here and there.
put down the pencil, press hard and do the stroke while reducing the pressure as you go, this way the values or colour will automaticly fade into the other. Its a lot of work, but it will look brilliant if you can pull it of.
Just think of it traditionally.

>Always overpaint edges. never try to closen up two surfaces edges to each other. Be rough and paint over one colour with the other, also creating mixed colours (Be careful not to make it look muddy)

For the fine work you can always go and use the same hard brush on low opacity to correct some of the spots.

The thing with the soft round is, its gonna get rid of all the strokes and makes things look very odd and boring. Ita painting after all, so dont hesitate to show brushwork and heavy strokes. All you need to learn is to use them wisely.

Look up the Blast rule for paintings (google it)
Also look up the sargent notes on goodbrush.com
Gonna help you a lot and you will hopefully grasp the concept behind good brushwork. Its an overall nice read anyway.

Good luck, and off to work with you!

>>1522990
little update

>>1522822
>the whole sketchy-ness looked good.

You mean the chicken scratch? No, it really doesn't look good

>>1522856
It works, draw the mountains in a way that makes it flow better

>>1523077
For smooth blending I think the best way is to put on pen pressure, put down the flow really low >20%, and leave the opacity at 100%

>>1522405
>I'm pretty sure the anatomy is fucked up
yea

>It doesn't look so bad
yea it does. it looks bad
its just bad.

>>1522416
lern2anatomy fgt

learning anatomy isn't just drawing a torso arms/legs
its about learning the muscles, skeleton and proportions and how they move and react with one another

Someone drew the same model earlier. Figured I'd give it a shot.

>>1522543
is a phine a thing of the future?

>>1523232
you have sweet line confidence, keep it up

>>1523235
Thanks! though it's still pretty messy. I just finally started using my 3B pencil lying around. So much better than normal pencils.

>>1523235
>having no clue what line confidence is

>>1523151
Did some slight fixing-up.

Calling it done now though.

>>1522592
Lol yes i did... I thought i needed a solod backround... To late turn undo

>>1523077
whoa Im gonna use it for base material for a drawing (I want shizune with a pink underwear, like her), good job man, keep it on!!

>>1523259
I cant type on this stupid fucking phone

It's my first time on here, so I don't know quite what I'm getting into.

I'm struggling to find my style, but I would like some critique and possibly help to really find my style.

I did this on a whim, it took me about ten/fifteen minutes.

>>1523284
>First time on here...
Welcome, please ignore the trolls and assholes.
>Quite what I'm getting into...
Basically /ic/ is full of people who want to get good enough at art to sell their shit and work professionally. If you're not in it for the long haul, you're probably going to be discriminated against. You'll still pick up some shit, but again, don't feed the trolls/assholes.
>Struggling to find my style...
You won't "find your style," because a style is something that develops naturally. You can choose to emulate the styles of other artists if you want, but your "style" is something that accumulates from everything you've learned about art - the way you lay down lines, the way you treat light, the way you approach values, etc.. Don't worry about your style, because whether you want it or not, you've already got your style - all you can do at this point is shape it, emulate other artists, or focus on defining a set of rules that could be considered stylized (anime, pinup, etc.). - but I recommend you don't worry about that for a while.
>Did this on a whim . . . ten/fifteen minutes.
If you're not used to drawing (which judging by your work, you're not) then ten/fifteen minutes may seem like a solid chunk of time to draw. It's not, some artists spend several hours, even days completing a work of art. Doodling is fine, being creative is great, but don't hide behind a short period of time as an excuse for not knowing how to take your work further. You've got potential, you could hone your potential by learning more or you could continue to draw using what you know - but either way it's bad (not trying to attack you, just being frank here).

If you're already in the process of learning - great! You don't need to dedicate your life to art to want to improve the hobby, but learning about a subject is the only way to know more about it, and in terms of graphic arts, practice and learning are the only ways you'll improve.

>>1523291
your actually the asshole here with that introduction.

>>1523294
>implying

>>1523297
make me scunt

>>1523294
Not that guy but that wasn't even that bad.
It's pretty accurate.

>>1523291
Well, I actually went to an art high school (Tacoma School of the Arts) and my end goal is to work as a concept artist. I've improved a lot in my work, but this was just something quick to show how I draw. I haven't been able to sit down and do a three hour piece because of work and home stuff.

Is there anything you could recommend?

>>1523300
No, it's a sly attempt to shape somebody's perceptions about /ic/. It's nothing more than propaganda disguised as a hearty welcome.

It should have started:
Welcome, please ignore the trolls, assholes, and manipulative anons. Always be skeptical.

>>1523314
You think youre funny? A clever little bitch who says the first thing that pops into your infantile head. Let me guess, you typed that out and snorted like a piggy? You go to the next thread and do the same idiotic shit where you say funny shit that pops into your head? You already know all memes like you know your ABCs, dont you, "wheel spinning retard"? Bet you never forget to out sage into email field, cause youre edgy like that. Youre a fucking clown, people laugh at you, not with. Fucking waste of human flesh, bet you rot in your basement all alone with mom wiping your ass. You always wanted to be an artist, but youcant, you gave up and now you just being an asshole to other artists, cause thats the only thing you know how to do well. Bet you want to say im projecting. Bet youre withdrawing right now.

>>1522616
Uhhhhppppdddate...and yes those are tires.

So I watched sinix's video on skulls and facial anatomy. My first study of skulls and tried to make that into a face. planning on doing a lot more skull studies.

anyone have some awesome skull references?

>>1523079
>>1523225
>>1523260
Thanks!

>>1523193
>Learn how to describe form with brushstrokes.
This does seem very, very tricky. I'm still having so much trouble controlling pressure with photoshop - it's so much easier on paper. Also, why do people prefer to use square brushes for this kind of stuff?
And, thank you for ALL those tips and resources! Lots of work for me to still do, heh.

>>1523354
lehl is this pasta? you're gay as fuck

>>1523232
Think we tried to draw the same model.

How are my proportions? Trying to make sure I've got that down before going into specific anatomy.

>>1523366
I think the eye is a bit big and the neck is a bit too thin. Other than that it looks pretty nice!

>>1523354
B is for Butthurt

>>1523365

>I'm the one who mentioned the square airbrush

I prefer the square airbrush because it is much cleaner than the circle. The difference isn't too big, but ever since I swapped I haven't gone back. I also don't paint with very much pressure sensitivity.

>difference between square and circles, hard-edge so you can see the difference, just imagine both are airbrushes.

>>1523370
Ah, my animu is leaking. Thank you!

>>1523379
>I also don't paint with very much pressure sensitivity.
So, do you normally just stick to one large brush to lay things down, and slowly go smaller and smaller through the process?

I find, even with what I'm doing now, to be constantly changing brush sizes, value, and opacity.

>>1523379
Can't you just turn the spacing to 0%...?

I hope she's less horrifying now.

>>1523363
>anyone have some awesome skull references?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalartform/sets/72157616118241543/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digitalartform/sets/72157616869491431/

Hoping she looks less horrifying now.

>>1522694
if her hair's supposed to be parted down the middle, it's a little too low to the right
Really neat picture though, her dress looks great, and a lady with a missile launcher is not something that gets old to look at

Hoping she looks less horrifying now.

>>1522764
>Pacific Rim art
God damn how can I say anything bad about it
Aleksis looks a little big, but considering that he's huge it actually looks alright

>>1522892
the man looks enormous, unless he's supposed to be/the woman is supposed to be a tiny waif

>>1523387
Lol, seconding this.

>>1523311
10/10 idea I love it
keep going with it

>>1523357
Her boobs seem a little far apart

First time not using lines, and damn it's been different
Not sure if I'm done with this or not

>>1523357
UPPDATE#$@^%#
>>1523477
thanks i think i fixed it.

>>1523480
You're still thinking in lines. You want to think in values. Try to do some value studies to see what I mean. Hope this helps.

>>1523382

Yep, usually start large, gradually get smaller while manually controlling opacity.

>>1523387

You could, if you want PS to go very slow.

>>1523254
Could be more bold, especially with the features like freckles and hard edges. but like the color composition esp. her skin tone

>>1523357
I think her boobs are too far apart, her upper arm and lower legs are too thin, her knees have no mass (shade them and show lines through the fabric), her right elbow and shoulder are fucked.

colours picked

>>1523574
its shit.

>>1523575
why mister

>>1523576
What, you can't take constructive criticism? Then gtfo my /ic/

>>1523576
you colour picked, you can't draw. but it looks ok for a study and you probably learnt something?

>>1523574
I think it looks alright, but I doubt you learned anything from color picking.

>>1523574
another study

>>1523064
are you Dave Rapoza?

>>1523592
that looks like daniel warren {the piss colored boy} hehe

>>1523379
>not putting the spacing down to 1%

>>1523527
>not having a powerful enough GPU to run photoshop

>>1523463
Stop polishing this turd and do another drawing you idiot, unless you don't want to get better of course

>>1523611
not him, but it doesn't make any bit of difference when you scale down your artwork
>not working big and then resizing artwork

>>1523618
I go small, big, then small

>>1523621
perfekt

>>1522890
I mean the woman's head is far too small than the men's.
But still acceptable as a kind of character design.

>>1523614
I have to agree with this man. it is shit and the #1 reason i haven't posted in this thread.

there should be some rule that at least someone whos knows what they are doing should post the draw thread.. or at least start it with some good decent work..

not because im an elitest which i am but because that way we know at least the op is capable of an actual crit.

>>1523627
OP has been doing draw threads longer than you have known about /ic/, no one else runs them and if it weren't for OP they wouldn't even be collectives like this.

You know, I've seen you bitch about something in just about every thread but offer no solid feedback about anything, what are you even doing on /ic/, do you even know what a pencil is?

>>1523627
>there should be some rule that at least someone whos knows what they are doing should post the draw thread
gtfo then

>>1523629

but he is right though..

>>1523633
No, he's not. OP is not individually critiquing everyone's work, this is a draw thread where everyone posts their work and everyone judges everyone elses work, this keeps there from being 10,000 "do you like this drawing" threads since they're all dumped into one place.

>>1523637

Ok sorry i always thought it was a different person. in that case i retract what i just said. keep up the good work op. (creating community) but also take that other guys advice and move onto something better.

>>1523637
i kinda see wut ur saying but im just saying from an artist point of view, u gata have sum1 who knows more about design asspec if they wanna be startin thse thredz. i myself am a well celebrated artist with alot mo xp than u chickens haha i aint about to post my shit tho im about to go hang out with my homiez we doin some taggin today haha yee

>>1523643
I never lawd so hard in all my mornings.

>>1523614
>>1523463
I have to agree with this guy though. Learn to let go and move to better things. Plus, people are getting sick at looking at this, and there's almost no drastic changes between paintings. Does this painting mean a lot to you? Looks like a random portrait of a vocaloid to me. Start again knowing what mistakes you've done and how to overcome it.

Stop posting and reposting this.

>>1523627
oh no an uppity namefagging refuses to post his shit art, what will we do

just fuck off, and keep your shit out of the anime thread too.

>>1523643

I love it when people name fag on this board and post their art. It makes it so much funnier when they act like elitist assholes and also can't draw for shit.

>>1523653
does this board normally get trolled this much?

>>1523656
you should've seen dolphinguy or chaos.

>>1523650
>>1523653

ITT deviant art try hard faggots.

>>1523656

Most of the time. After a while you learn what posts to ignore.

>>1523629
>Thinking this op has been doing draw threads every single time

>>1523656
be glad you weren't around for dolphin guy

>>1523656
no, it usually gets trolled a lot more.

>>1523663
i thought the same. this guy is not h! i think. and before him there were others too.

>>1523463
and the thing is, you push 1 pixel over there, and another over here, and you call it an iteration. Practically nothing has changed. it's creepy and it never won't be.

>>1523662
Panda Guy was better.

also tfw when they think you are an actual troll.. offering them good advice.. lel

>>1523671
lol what did dolphin guy do

>>1523675
guilty of being an annoying ass dolphin.

>>1523671
your advice is awful and you come off as obnoxious and overconfident in your very amateurish drawing ability which, to be perfectly honest, is pretty par for the course around here. but when you namefag these infractions accumulate and magnify your shittiness in the eyes of us anons so that you just end up seeming like a huge tool.

>>1521507
Firez, I like you, but why are you working on this single drawing for 2 weeks when you can do studies and practice instead?

>>1523680
lel he is not legion enough for you is what you are saying?

oh boy /ic/ you guys take your selfs way to serious.

>>1523691
have you even lurked for longer then 5 seconds? Hanging around and learning the board culture is common courtesy. It has nothing to do with being inducted into some neckbeard legion that you fucking newfags love to insinuate.

>>1523693
So he uses a name why does that bother you at all? its fucking retarded.

>>1523694
>>1523694
Not the same poster, but it bothers ME because I have to constantly be reminded what a fucking idiot he is every time I read his posts in this thread or a different one instead of just assuming that a different anonymous retard is posting this trash.

If you're going to namefag at least make your posts worth someone's time so they can follow you and your collective thoughts/posts.

>>1523694
don't assume identities on an anonymous forum, smart guy. lurk harder. the new namefag reeks of dunning kruger, I bet he never posts a sketch because he's ashamed.

>>1523698
Why don't you just filter him? Since he's using a convenient filterable name.

>>1523699
What makes you think theres only one of them? Stupid fucks. If you even pay attention to the time of the posts there are clearly at least 2 of them if not more

>>1523699
he did.
in the animu thread, tough he said it's an older pic.
he's probably still shit.

40 posts and nothing about art.

sure is drama around here

>>1523706
Yeah because of morons from other boards coming in here

these are the Three I need to finish finish for my portfolio

Yes I know the abdomen is screwed on both the female on the male.

I cant quite illustrate body tweest with the female so refs inc. Munster dude is more of an experimentation process aaaaand the robo sci fi dude has legs more aimed at concept than anything.

>>1523710
some men just want to see the world burn.

>>1523691
did you even read the post?

>>1523712
Hi! Is the portfolio for a job or a school?

I'm not sure about the abdomen, there's a lot of anatomical problems that aren't going to be solved in a while. Them aside I think you should focus on refining the shapes.

You have an idea of what you want to make, like your crysis kind of soldier. Find a light source then use to show us what objects or armour he is wearing. Just looking at his face I'm not quite sure what it is. How about angling his head a bit (still having his eyes forwards) to show what shape it is? What is inside his visor? If they are two vertical lightsources, try to look at some reference on how that actually looks when they are behind a small transparent piece of glass.

Best of luck with the portfolio!

>>1523710
yeah man fuck da crossies XD

>>1523712
the positioning of those eyes are pretty fucked. that whole face is kinda derp.

is the headwear throwing you out of whack?
look at some references/photos with that kind of bandana/etc

I just can't understand how to make colour reflection more realistic

>>1523729
You need to work on value much much more before move to color

>>1523732
Thanks for advice, I think I'm moving too fast. It's time to sit down and study-practice more

>>1523729
I think you should play around with various brushes first.
don't worry about it too much. study light in general and you'll get it eventually.

>>1523729
harden up the edges of the sphere. i feel like i have myopia

>>1523729
Have some fun before you start doing these studies.

>>1523720

Currently its for gnomon just to give them an idea of where im at. I want to get into the two year program. It's a pain to get into so I have no idea if I can do it till the 20th when I go to meet them .

Because the cry dude is concept art I tihnk it's in my favor to draw him from multiple angles Im not sure If I can pull it off but its in my best interest ,perheps a loose linedrawing will work.

>>1523728
I keep battling with the perspective on her face, I've redrawn it 3 err so times and all keep buttfucking me with an even derpier itteration. I'll just box the face out in perspective and go from there. Or use refs either or OR both.

>>1523744
forgot image

>>1523744
I think you should focus on drawing him from one angle first, no offense.

Try to think about what shape every item on him is and then use light to show it. It seems there's a lot of just brush strokes instead of shapes right now.

A good thing to do if you are not sure yourself (it happens a lot) is to "boxify" him. Ignore the texture and materials, paint him like a lowpoly 3d model or even as a wireframe and then you will have an easier time finding where the light will go.

>>1523614
>>1523640

I feel like I've learned quite a few things with it.

I don't have a lot of time available (nowadays especially), so I only get to work a bit on it everyday. I also hadn't done a vocaloid fan-art in ages.

>>1523645
Don't click on the thumbnail then, it's not like I'm deceiving you. It's the same drawing with (imho) considerable updates.

>>1523627
Most of the draw threads op images are very early sketches, the past one was back into the 2nd page with 320~ comments so I decided to make a new one.

I also don't do much critique because I consider that I don't have enough experience.

>>1523637
>>1523630
>>1523650
This too.

>>1523656
Anime threads is where most of the trolls post, here's usually much more friendly.

Speaking of anime threads, I wonder why Miku fag can get away with this kind of behavior without getting bashed so much.

>>1523668
I did more than that, if that's not enough well I'm sorry.

>>1523689
Besides time/responsibilities constraints and the other reasons I exposed, I feel that it's just not good enough yet. Don't worry I gave myself a deadline for this week. Thanks for the support too :)

>>1523614
>>1523640

I feel like I've learned quite a few things with it.

I don't have a lot of time available (nowadays especially), so I only get to work a bit on it everyday. I also hadn't done a vocaloid fan-art in ages.

>>1523645
Don't click on the thumbnail then, it's not like I'm deceiving you. It's the same drawing with (imho) considerable updates.

>>1523627
Most of the draw threads op images are very early sketches, the past one was back into the 2nd page with 320~ comments so I decided to make a new one.

I also don't do much critique because I consider that I don't have enough experience.

>>1523637
>>1523630
>>1523650
This too.

>>1523656
Anime threads is where most of the trolls post, here's usually much more friendly.

Speaking of anime threads, I wonder why Miku fag can get away with this kind of behavior without getting bashed.

>>1523668
I did more than that, if that's not enough well I'm sorry.

>>1523689
Besides time/responsibilities constraints and the other reasons I exposed, I feel that it's just not good enough yet. Don't worry I gave myself a deadline for this week. Thanks for the support too :)

>>1523219
I like this a lot, but the torso is way too small for my suspension of disbelief, or rather, the way your piece is styled.

>>1523745
looks boring, stupid, and incredibly generic

so..i don't know
i practice do studies but i feel like i'm still not getting forms?
and my brushstrokes suck (i've been told this multiple times on here) how do i improve that?

>>1523814

trying to get used to the tablet

>>1521481
>oh he took a picture of his work environment let's see wh-

Some of the most valuable stuff from the last month and a half. I'm obsessed with finding exact methods of doing individual things (like, at the top, somehow consistent, smooth pencil gradient and texture) instead of producing anything resembling finished artwork. Hope it all will come together one day.

Am I approaching this the right way to some extent?

>>1523440
Oh my, thank you so much anon.

>>1523761
>I feel like I've learned quite a few things with it.

Well how can you know for sure if you don't start a new drawing and apply what you think you've learned?

>I don't have a lot of time available

Does it really take you much more than an hour just to do another black and white sketch? Even if you could just spend like 20 fucking minutes on a rough sketch and see if you can lay down the proportions and shit correctly

>>1523618
Why would the spacing show if you scale down your artwork? Whatever, that never happens to me anyway, yes I actually do resize my shit after

When is the new draw thread?

Any help?

Obviously hair, nose, cheek (how do I make it look like it is a 3D form and not just flat as it seems to be now, the left cheek from our point of view, I have tried and failed) and mouth need more work. Should they be near perfect at this stage, or is it easier to fix the forms later, after glazing?

>>1523969
this ain't bumping? Check

new draw thread?

New Thread
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>>1524265
>>1524265