/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1514430
where? all I see is hidden feet, hidden hands and hidden upper face

>>1514439
its possible there is no progress. can i see yours ?

>>1514448
>it's possible

No really, there is no progress there. Hid the face, hid the feet, hid most of the details of the body, and didn't even bother with the hands. The only difference there is is that the person added scenery around the character.

>>1514448
>can i see yours ?

no you can't.

>>1514451
maybe it looks that way.. it was mostly a sketch, and i didn't want to detail to much the feet and hands areas, for the focal point of the image is the head. The hiding of the face was a design decision. I agree it may look that way however

Old classics ok?

>>1514451
Stop shitposting.

>>1514460
>the focal point of the image is the head

That did not work very well because hands and feet lack necessary detail and jump out too much because of that.

> The hiding of the face was a design decision.

Really? Not just lack of skill-decision?

Anyway, keep working on your stuff and don't give up.

>>1514466
Please go away.

>>1514467
yeah im not pro at faces, but you know, i could have made it look ok

>>1514466
>If I don't like what you said than you're shitposting

>>1514472
Okay, I believe you :3

>>1514471
It's obvious that at the very least, the presentation of his work is better. "No Improvement" is a barefaced lie.

I'm a gigantic casual hobbyist faggot but I like to think that I'm trying

>>1514439

u hef teh downz

2010 - now
I'm still learning everything, and I'm not great, but I'm definitely getting a better understanding of form, as apposed to 2011 when I didn't even know what form was.

>>1514478

Nice Volt

>>1514461
What a pleb.

>>1514493
squirrel is very cute

Not much improvement on the hands or feet really..I kinda lost inspiration to draw since I lost my book in 09.

>>1514545
Lame excuse to stop.

>>1514470
holy

>>1514430
did u fix that in some computer program? (background) or did you draw it yourself.
im impressed

>>1514644
drawn in photoshop. Trees in foreground are custom brushes however

these threads make me regret deleting all my old art works

these threads make me regret deleting all my old art works

>>1514653
Hey, son.

>>1514655
sup dad <3 post that one progress with the chick with plant coming out of her head

>>1514453
I lol'd

Trying to cover each category.

>>1514653
you should also delete your new art works

>>1514737
naw ill keep it for when theres another one of these threads in a year

Trying to put one of each category.

Any feedback is more than welcome.

>>1514755

How does one improve this fast in only 2 years? Sheer talent or more work/practice input?

>>1514793
Practice your ass off, use lots of reference.

Right is from around March 2013. Left is from yesterday.

>>1514820
>starting to draw dickgirls.

Everytime! I swear it's like some newage fad or something. Keep going though.

man, these threads are depressing. You guys make progression charts after two months of drawing 'seriously' and expect ass pats. that's all these threads are. ffs. facebook please leave

>>1514793
>Sheer talent
>as if all good artists could make good art the moment they could hold tools
>"talent" = disregarding years of practice

>>1514793
He started using colour and finishing his works?

>>1517468
the rallying cry of the talentless.

srry but we're not all mozart-picassos-einsteins who just need to work harder.

>>1517481
Nah, the talentless are the ones like you who cry about talent and use it as excuse for sucking.

The ones who you call talented are the ones who worked hard to get there. But the moment they become good, they are regarded as talented by people like you.

>>1517488
but i have talent, so i don't suck. i'm awesome, and i don't work nearly as hard as most people.

for shits and giggles

>>1514775
stupid question but what are you using to draw?

>>1517493
prove it. Of course you won't

Left column is about 9 months ago.
Right column is now

I feel like this is slow improvement for that mich time. Just now starting to study Vilppu. Not sure what I can do to make greater improvement over the next year. Please critique.

>>1514775

You're from Reddit. I don't like your samefacing.

Don't even bother. I already know it's a masterpiece. My progress is nothing short of brilliant.

>>1514753
I always wanted to learn how to do stuff like this ):

>>1517588
It looks like you are trying to progress too fast. Start with the very basics like gesture drawing and perspective before you move on to more advanced stuff like forms, anatomy and value. Don't be afraid to spend a lot of time doing gesture drawings, it helps your progress immensely in the long run

>>1517608
And what are you waiting for?
Gotta study a lot, bro. Experiment. Have passion for what you wanna do.

>>1514793
he was good in the beginning already. At least nothing like /ic/ standard.
Also his progress is pretty average for 2 years of study.
You just have to be passioned and sit on your fucking ass and work!
I have seen people improving twice the rate.

>>1514468
stagnation.jpg

>>1517524
ArtRage. It's amazing to mimic traditional mediums and the interface is superb.

>>1517591
:(

Really? I thought I had avoided that and yeah I like Reddit as much as 4chan...big deal

i dont really do studies like this very much, but i cant really find any other drawings to use

meh. i dont really enjoy drawing much at this point (at least if im trying to practice consistently with a lot of my free time). but i dont really want to quit. i wish i could improve while also enjoying it.

couldnt be bothered to dig out a more recent sketchbook because were moving soon and its some box somewhere
i still dont draw nearly as much as i should...

>>1517820
What aspect of drawing initially were you interested in enough to start? Maybe you just need to go back to the reason you do it in the first place. Is there some subject matter you love to draw? Do you like coming up with characters? Whatever it is, go and do that. Just studying mindlessly to improve is going to dull your mind and kill your passion.

>>1517859
well i was one of those guys who just started as a kid and never really stopped. Initially i made cartoons in Flash but once i realized i couldn't really draw i decided to start practicing, but then i kinda forgot about flash and that dream and just started drawing aimlessly

i dont know why i draw, and i can't really seem to figure it out. it's frustrating to tell you the truth.

>>1517820
r u hot?
post pic pls

In the last 4 years I went from terrible to mediocre. I feel like I should have learned more.

Also lolporn

>>1517958
Yeah, maybe you should learn how to draw anything else but genitals and breasts. That would be a start.

>>1517958
i love your porn tough.
keep going

>>1517958

you are quite good though. do you make a living drawing porn?

>>1517958
i enjoy the way you draw large penises

>>1517958
I like you Incase. Do you ever draw stuff that's completely different? I kinda want to see what it would look like if you painted a landscape or something.

>>1517989
Don't be silly. Drawing anything beside porn is absurd.

i'm bad now but MAN i was worse

>>1518198
Good progress. Do you have the reference used for the right pic? I like that pose.

>>1517820
IM A FAN OF YOU.

Well I like your style, could you share us your tumblr/deviant/otherplacewhereyoushareart?

>>1518200
for four years, that's not good progress. It's sad and discouraging really

>>1517820
>right to left orientation
weeb

>>1518279
be glad i haven't shown my 8 year progress

>>1518200
from that figure drawing reference tumblr site, and thanks B)

>>1518279
i'm trying to get better! (not hard enough yeah but still)

>>1517532
>show me ur work fagit

I feel like I'm moving very slowly... Aaargh!

>>1514468
Muh style, muh style everywhere.

>>1514545
>since I lost my book in 09.

Wow really? That's your excuse? They were all shit anyway so just keep drawing and learning till you get better

>>1514753
Heyy sexyy

>>1514430
you just got better at hiding your weaknesses through irrelevant details, shadows and background

>>1517625
That's shit for 6 years of work, unless you were just lazy

>>1517636
>implying there is an average rate of improvement

>>1514470
goddamn, this is progress

My progress.

>>1520280

>>1514461
>For reals this time

I dropped.

<:
anermik.deviantart.com

>>1514467
artgerm (the first 2 images) is the only good artist there.

>>1521263
before was better

>>1521273
yeah. I paint with watercolors and oil, but have no means of digitalising them, so maybe I still haev progress afterall

>>1521226
dat ellie eyes

A small time frame of beginner studies. Gotta keep moving, I've still got a long way to go.

>>1521255
what you mean ?

>>1521312
go lighter, use less lines

>>1521381
I struggle to use fewer lines and avoid scratching lines around. I tell myself to stop but later find myself fumbling around again. Frequent reiterating/restating lines too, which I believe make many lines darker.

I suspect I require improvements to understanding/analyzing of a subject's form. Is there any advice beyond continuing practice?

Pic is the latest study's ref.

>>1521410

watch proko's videos on gesture drawing

>>1514439
lol what a fag...

>>1514653
>>1514655
hory shet

I was lazy in the past, but now I am learning quickly. Old work is embarrassing to look at.

>>1517815
>:(
Please leave.

>>1521315
He's the only one who's reach a professional level of skill. The other three are complete amateurs if you take a look at their galleries.
http://artist-confessions.tumblr.com/post/33787824093/sources-art-on-the-top

The way I used to draw eyes was so retarded.
Not really an impressive amount of improvement for 5 years, but, shit, I'll take it.

>>1521551

In what universe does the lower body work like that

>>1521557
In my imagination ;_;

But yeah, without a background it looks completely ridiculous. Her legs are supposed to be propped up on a wall. Here's the reference, for context.
Even so, I can see I've bungled the right leg pretty bad. Is there anything else I could fix to make the lower body look like it belongs in this universe?

>>1521604
It seems you've slapped a skirt over the lower body to hide it without really giving proper thought to how a skirt would actually behave in that situation. It doesn't look believable. And no, I'm not entirely sure how the skirt should exactly look either but it clearly is the problem.

Should have either found a ref for the skirt or not deviated that much from the original.

>>1521607
>>1521604
>>1521551

What type of skirt is that supposed to be? If it's a form-fitting pencil type of skirt, it would definitely be lower on the legs almost like the shorts in the reference.

2011 tablet vs. 2013 ink&paper.

>>1521830
pretty nice man, very clean
do you have any photorealistic drawings?

>>1521830
both are good, i dig it.

you got any comics?

>>1521833
Thanks! I've done a fair share of practices and studies on photorealistic pieces but it just isn't working out.

>>1521837
Thanks! I've got a comic coming up next year.
more my stuff here:
http://kukez.tumblr.com/

>>1521830
Not so much improvement, but both looks nice! Feels like a comic book I'd like to read!

>>1521833
What a weird question. Why would that be interesting?

>>1521887
and some newer studies because the older ones got nuked in an old HDD :(

got a profile on any site?

>>1521887
Woah, what happened during 2013 new years?

I'm trying to make that skill jump myself.

:(

>>1522625
Jesus Christ, bro. What happened

>>1522634
/ic/ happened

>>1522617
I got a job.

>>1522639

a job in the industry? or a non-art job?

>>1522643
in the industry

>>1521830
It looks amazing and i love your style. why you no famous yet?

>>1522645
tell me about the industry job please.

>>1517958
I like your blog :3

>>1522634
He just got really good at polishing turds, and those landscapes look like they were shaded with black

>>1521226
Gratz.....you can draw eyes better?

>>1521478
You silly goose. He made a :( face, not a >:( one.

rate my progress nerds

I don't have progress. I quit after 6 years.

>>1527588
Good job! You really showed all those people who said hard work and persistence will pay off in the end!

>>1527565
This is about as much progress as most of the people in this thread have made over the years, including OP.

>>1514430
W-where are the knees in the second one? I'm so confused.

>>1517958
not only is the progression artistically on of the best ones here, srsly, but especially the nun pic seriously stunned me, erotically and estethically. do you work anything in traditional? keep up the good work for christs sake.

2008 - muh style
2009 - hehe I know anatomy :DD
2010 - faffing about
2011 - huh, guess I dont know anatomy DD:
2012 - this anatomy thing is tricky, but also fun
2013 - more of the same plus some enviorments.

>>1517958
do you have a blog or something

>>1517958
hai inCase. thanx for your work.
Anything before 2009? also this >>1517989
<3

>>1514461
>started to develop my own style.
>anime.
>own style.
>anime.
>own style.
>anime.
>own style.
>anime.
>own anime.
>style.
>anime own.
>style anime.
>own.
>anime.
<style.
<style.
<style.
>own.
>style.
>anime.

>>1527565
looks stiff

0/10

portraits

>>1527680
dat bouguereau, dat watson

>>1527680

sweet shit. but i always feel like these comparisons absolute garbage - skilled studies are pointless. early studies that still suck but have effort put into them, and represent the very early steps after one decided to pursue art seriously are FAR more interesting.

post the shit you did 2010 for instance. not the shit your mom put up on her fridge after you showed her, which she then took down when her friends came over and you where in school

>>1527688
thanks! there you go, faces from 2010.

>>1527691
That is quite nice avoiding of drawing hands on the right, though you were not that bad by judging the image on the left.

damn. damn. am so willing to do this right now, but two seconds before finding this thread I took my sleep meds.

Huh this thread is pretty depressing,
Is Algenpfleger or Janaschi progress that rare?
Or are people posting here pretty lazy?
I'm not trying to be rude - there is progress just if you asked me to put pieces of this people chronologically I would have much difficulty

>>1521888
>>1521887
>>1517958
>>1514755
>>1514753

>>1527714
does anyone here look like they'd give one fuck whether your faceless ass would post your process motherfucker?

>>1517958
can you believe it's been three years?

>>1527717
just for that, when i wake up and redo the pic I'm making the cock and balls extra big and drippy.

>>1527716
the fuck are you talking about? janaschi didn't progress that quickly, she drew for 10+ years.

>>1517958
fuck you for ruining Elizabeth ;__;

I was 14-15 in 2012, thought I was good, thank you for breaking my ego /ic/, I'm learning now

excuse the signatures

>>1527753
gtfo underage

>>1527756
i'm 20 now though

>>1527759
lol, either you can't count, you lied about turning 15 in 2012, you can't count, or you aged 5 years in just 1 year.

>>1527759
>14-15 in 2012
>20 now

>>1527759
or you are lying about being 20
or you are from the future

>>1527677
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I got style for miles and miles

>>1517958
I-is that you Incase? Dude, you're my hero.

Tried to do a more comprehensive progress chart than my last one. Had to dig pretty deep to find some of my older work.

>>1514430

am i really the only one who never had an animu phase?

damn maybe that's why i'm so good (i'm not)

>>1517958
dude, just work more on the god-damn hands, I can't fap to it if the hands look like cubes.

>>1527809
great improvement

you should study perspective and begin including landscapes into your work.

That seems to be key to further improvement in a lot of artists.

>>1527821
I actually have a few landscape pieces, but they're so huge that when shrunken down to fit, all the details get lost so I ended up not including it in. But I do agree, I need to do more landscapes, which I actually find more entertaining than figures right now.

>>1522625
That is not regressing, I don't believe one can ever regress. You did not even finish the block in stage. I don't know the time frame between '12 and '13 for you. But if you've been studying frequently. I see improvement. It looks like you are seeing shapes instead of details, and your understanding of color temps are visible. Keep it up.
>>1522634
He did not finish obviously, also I'd say the shape of the castle, reveals his weakness in perspective and architecture. I understand though, why it may appear he has regressed, but that is not the case.

I believe there are marks of 'regress'. Stagnation, neglecting your craft for a long time. Still, everyone improves, even just observing nature and being alive. When you come back you cannot draw for at least a few weeks, everything is so strange. However, your abilities snap back and even improve slightly.

There are probably other things that fool us into believing someone has regressed. Possibly, not pushing a painting not challenging yourself enough or treating the subject seriously, especially in comparison to older work that shows greater promise. Another sign could be, your attempt at dumping habits or comforts, something basic like going from iconographic drawing to observation. How you approach your line work. Maybe you fell into a bad habit, and once you started getting instruction, your mistakes were revealed, and it appears like regression. You could draw an almost geometric circle with a hairy line, now you attempt it with a confident line and you have a lopsided oval that does not close, but in time your ellipses become elegant. Lastly, an injury, or great emotional psychological stress of course, but even then Frazetta switched to his recessive hand.

>>1527809
how do people draw without reference, without construction, so many different things?

>>1527840
most experienced artists use some form of construction. anyway drawing without ref, at first it sucks. But the more studies you do and the more you draw from your mind you will build up creativity and intuition and youd be surprised how much more fun drawing becomes when you can just sit there and create what appeals to you without looking at photos and stressing! Keep drawing man I promise you things will get better and you will start to love drawing more than ever before

Most of these are fake right? Right? You don't draw for 5 years just to draw less shitty uggu animu?

>>1527877
academic art so serious and adult XD

>>1527840
Without reference, yes. Without construction, no. I do some light and quick sketches when doing a finished piece, and work from there. A lot of it just comes down to visual library.

In general though I just tackle the picture without construction and correct things as I go. Makes things a lot less mundane.

>>1527887
>Damage control
:^)

>>1527890
explain

>>1527565

needs more loomis

>>1527893
>Ask a question
>Ironic shitposting as reply
>Respond with ironic shitposting

>>1527897
which has nothing to do with 'damage control'. maybe you should stop parroting phrases you don't understand -- oh wait this is /ic/, carry on.

>>1527898
>More shitposting
>Still avoiding the question
Truly /ic/.

>>1521830
dude, i checked out your stuff, and i've got to tell you..
your drawings are like REALLY awesome! seriously, tho. it's really cool.

>>1527903
Could you restate your question again, properly, as befits an adult human being?

do still life studies teach much?

>>1521887
Is that Yume Nikki fanart I spot? (Do you have a DeviantArt or Tumblr? I would love to follow your art.)

>>1514470
holy shit

>>1527759
I was 14-15 in 2012, thought I was good, thank you for breaking my ego /ic/, I'm learning now

excuse the signatures

>>1528074
Wtf? I didnt even fucking delete it I swear, thanks for reposting?

My progress this summer.

Mostly portrait drawings without reference. At least my new ones beat my first ones!

>>1528031
close-up of last drawing

>>1528031

You got worse.

>>1528074
Aww gee how cute, did a little janitor delete my post because I pointed out how he's underage and still not good?

Cry me a fucking river.

>>1528074

To be fair your shit and need to practice harder. Look at this http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114449

Also, you draw like a 14 year old.

>>1528089
You're welcome.

>>1528100
Okay. The robot is from a reference in a Chris Hart how to draw mecha book, by the way.

>>1527680

>>1527960
http://pixiv.me/yilx

>>1528092
You actually show improvement, which seems to be rare in this kind of thread. But...

Keep in mind the human face isn't one color. Even people with dark skin have a bit of redness on their nose and cheeks.

Also lets see some faces from different angles, not just bland three-quarter view. Drawing characters from unique and dramatic angles helps to capture the mood of the character (like a villainous character viewed from below and to the side with the lighting from below) and make them more interesting and exciting.

Also the blond girl who seems to be smiling--frankly--looks more like she's trying to smile but the left side of her face is sagging at the same time. Study facial expressions more. Google people, women and men smiling.

>>1528257
That image gets posted too rarely.

http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.fi/2008/05/color-zones-of-face.html

>>1514653
i like the 2011 piece very very much fuck realism

draw without reference by adding more understanding to your brain, then see what comes out.

to the less-skilled, it's appealing. to the more-skilled, they get to feel superior. :-)

I go back to sketchbook scans sometimes. what I see in my old sketches is more than just the image, but also the larger scene/story that I attempted to capture

some things can be salvaged, but I take most of them and say happy birthday to the ground.

this sketch is super fucked up for like, the legs, and proportion and perspective, and after deleting her bottom half I realized all that's left is a nicely rendered wet penis and a side-view face that looks like "I don't know how to face" laziness.

>>1528031
Eh...maybe this whole drawing thing isn't for you.

>>1528326
nice man, reminds me of the artist Lebbeus Woods
>>1528277
I still do those cartoony shit sometimes for the lulz lol, but I don't think it's really gonna get me anywhere beside on some tumblr blog and tshirts. That's why I was wishing i didn't delete some old stuff because alot of those were "realistic" drawings that wouldve been a better comparison. Here's one i dug out from 2012

>>1528306
stick to drawing wet penis you suck at everything else

>>1528337
so... what you're saing is... the penis is good?

MOM, /ic/ SAYS THE PENIS IS GOOD!

>>1528273
>http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.fi/2008/05/color-zones-of-face.html
"Around the lips are relatively more veins carrying blue deoxygenated blood."
>blue deoxygenated blood

>>1514470
Is this the only person on /ic/ who can actually draw? Every single other post is faggots on tablets thinking they're van Gogh. I want to see at least a few people, do something on a tablet and then something in pencil and upload it. Show everyone how good you really are instead of being a bunch of faggot hipsters.

>>1528352
>using tablet
>hipster
>doesnt require skill

You bitter and jelly cuz you're a poor fag who can't afford a tablet and can't draw for shit?

>>1528102
>implying every 14 year old doesn't draw shitty animu

lel yea fuck off

>>1528352
i have done some decent traditional stuff, with pencils and oils and acrylics, etc. but why would i try to prove it to some cunt on the internet?

>>1528352
if you're kinda pro with the digital medium, you can learn the traditional mediums with ease, everything else you already have learned.

>>1528352

>>1528352
that most likely isn't even his progression chart. notice the year. notice the filename. that chart has been posted in every thread lately.

>>1521887
Good shit, brother

>>1528352
Drawing on a tablet is more difficult than drawing on paper. You have more control and precision with a pencil. Nobody spends hundreds on a tablet without having been doodling away on paper for years.

>>1528031

You obviously haven't read the sticky. It looks like you haven't actually practiced anything seriously to better yourself. Instead you just drew random things from you imagination instead of learning about the basics first such as anatomy. Read the sticky and actually practice. Within a year you'll be improve greatly.

>>1528789
I hadn't found /ic/ yet.
>Instead you just drew random things from you imagination instead of learning about the basics first such as anatomy.
That's what I did. Because I could and it was fun. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm currently scouring the archives for advice and information past anons had given as well as the sticky.

>>1528833
10/10

>>1521888
I''m sorry but these are all really sloppy. You could rearrange the dates and I really wouldn't know the difference.

classic Sycra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS7_gjWGqJQ

>>1528031
Despite the people bitching, I don't think it's all that bad, a few of the older ones are a bit sketchy, but anyone here who tells you they weren't bad at one time are lying. You need practice, sure, just like everyone else though. Also I like the last one a fair bit actually.

>>1528328
What'd we say about this shit anon.

>>1514753
You're probably long gone but scenic art is my favourite art. I would love high-res versions of your 2013 pieces and the top right one from 2012.2

>>1528092
>>1528257

I feel like you need to study mouths. A lot of your mouths are off

>>1521887
>dat Marona
but wait

>dat last panorama

Holy shit nigger.

>>1514430
I still have such a long, long way to go..

>>1529229
The change in subject matter alone is proff of progress.

For stronger gainz i recomend.

4x5 sets of Life drawing (still lifes)

5x5 sets of Anatomy

10x10 perspective.

make sure to follow up with

2x10 Life drawing and you will be a star in 6months.

>>1529229
Thank you for stopping to draw animu shit. This already makes you better than most of /ic/.

>>1528949
it's ok to be sloppy,
polish is the least important thing about art

>>1529239
Thanks coach!

>>1529239
I think that's the first time I saw you writing something that's not completely retarded.

Am I improving much? Be honest

>>1529459
>1 year
Not really at the level I'd like to see for that huge chunk of but you're better..

>>1529464
You are better than a year ago, but there could have been more progress. Also, your second painting doesn't seem finished.

>>1529464
Thanks, I'll try harder this year.
>>1529466
Thanks. And I see what you mean, I could spend longer on it. Latter painting took me about an hour and a half, it may benefit me to spend longer on it.

>>1529459
took this a little bit further, added my beard too. Looks a lot more like me already

>>1529459
Took it a bit further. Added my beard and more subtleties

>>1529511
yea better

>>1529511
Is this reference or imagination? Features are very boring and ill-defined, nothing going on to make the picture interesting. I'm hoping this is a study.

>>1529529
Self portrait from imagination. Any suggestions how to make it better?

>>1529551
use a ref

>>1529574
t-thanks

>>1529551
>>1529574
>>1529585
Seriously, you should use a ref. Most of your learning will come from focused study. Working without refs is a great way to test what you retain. If this is as far as you can take it, then that's that. Do a new one from a ref (preferably a mirror) and choose something to focus on, whether it's values, proportions, edge control, brush economy, value massing, light properties, etc.

>>1529595
>Do a new one from a ref (preferably a mirror) and choose something to focus on, whether it's values, proportions, edge control, brush economy, value massing, light properties, etc.

This x1,000, I wish it was easier for people to grasp the important of this. I've been pushing myself 6+ hours a day actually STUDYING since the first of this month and I've improved more in the last 19 days than I have in the previous 3 months.

>>1529595
>>1529602
I know what you mean. Lately I've only been studying from refs. This one was an attempt to use what I learned from my recent Rembrandt studies (pic related was one of many short studies)

>>1521830
Love your work. Your formatting for speech bubbles needs some more thought though. Pic related fits to the style better than your usual text. Alternatively, change the font to something more "comicky."

>>1530935
Your usual font. Mike Mignola's Hellboy comes to mind when I see your art. Look at his text for ideas.

>>1530936
Manually written and/or grittier text fits better. Something edgier.

>>1530936
Manually written and/or grittier text fits better. Something edgier. Like pic related.

>>1527731
*improving

>>1530935
>>1530936
>>1530939
wow, thanks.
I haven't really put much thought on lettering so this was helpful.

>>1530939
that picture makes me want to start drawing. reminds me of when I used to draw for fun.

>>1530936
Was gonna say the font reminded me of Invader Zim when juxtaposed with that art style and how it was self-consciously defacing or "ironically bad" font choice. But then I thought you might think that was a good thing and keep using that font, or even make it even more Zim-like.

"NO. I want your comic to be cool." It reminds me of independent comics, especially the ones in Kabuishi's Flight anthology.

>>1514644
fix that FUCKING eye

>>1528099
lel

>>1531570
What do you draw for now then?

>>1521887
Woah. It's Yilx, I thought I had seen your style in some other threads but now I'm sure. Your progress is incredible by the way! I'm Sentret from that old forum by the way

3 years of tablet work, I tried to be fair and pick the pieces I was most proud of at each time in my life

>>1528786
I did :^)

>>1534023
Fucking render your picture, god damn. Everyone in this thread gets to a stage where they're semi good but stop rendering their pictures.
>B-But muh original do not copy style

>>1534055
God damn it you're fucking stupid.

>>1534052
Because you're a stupid retard who just wanted to get into the 'muh digital art'

>>1534076
>B-But it's s-supposed to look like unfinished garbage
How about you stop being a lazy shit and finish your paintings.

>>1534023
I see no real improvement from 2012 to 2013--namely a lack of ability to render, poor understanding of perspective and VERY poor use of values.

Your best work is the windmill one and that's still poor in value usage and color and confusing because the windmill is off in the distance and it's doorway is only slightly smaller than the one in the foreground, which makes no sense and confuses where it belongs on the picture plane. Nor does the house in the midground match-up proportionally with the one in the foreground. Go back to successful drawing and study perspective please.

The two at the bottom are way too blocky and show a poor use of composition, color theory, and rendering ability. The bottom right one has the same values throughout, even on the buildings in the distance, which confuses the focal point. Also rocks and stone won't just be lit with the same color as the light source because they're not highly reflective, like metal, but would instead show a great deal of 'local color'.

Do studies of a similar subject before trying a new illustration. Also study composition. Get the book Framed Ink, as it covers the basics of composition.

>>1534076
Being overly negative to people isn't going to help you, though I'm not the guy you were insulting.

>>1534093
Currently, I only ever work on these for a single day. It keeps the ideas fresh and more importantly, I don't start hating a single project, wishing it could be finished already. Some days I have more time to put towards painting, other days not so much. I have done paintings that I render to a stage which I consider complete, but I did not include them because I did not prefer them, for one reason or another; in this case it is the cliche color scheme. Also, is my study not rendered?

Also, out of curiosity, could I see some of your fully rendered paintings?

>>1527811
Yeah I grew up just before anime and manga exploded, and so luckily squeaked by without having to draw all those shitty faces and proportions.

>>1534138
Thank you very much, I'll try and work on those Issues you mentioned. I admit, I have not devoted nearly enough time to understanding perspective.

I'll check that book out, do you have a recommendation where I could learn more about color theory?

Today I realised I started drawing 8 months ago and I haven't made any progress. This depresses me.

>>1534141
Show your drawings, cowboy.

>>1534144
This book should be in every library for aspiring illustrators and artists, as it is 1) a slim read 2) written in the most simplified manner possible 3) covers the basics of design, composition, story-telling and color usage:

Picture This: How Pictures Work

I've probably learned the most from this book than any other and you can read it in about two hours sitting. It costs 3 bucks used on Amazon and is worth many times that much.

For many aspects of color:
Color and Light by James Gurney
Also, if you don't already have it, get Imaginative Realism by Gurney. If you're wanting to paint the fantastical, or just correctly create images in general, both these books are absolutely indispensable. There's no excuse not to have them in your library.

For color theory:
Color Design Workbook: A Real World Guide to Using Color in Graphic Design
It covers the basics of color theory and gives various guides to helpful color combinations.

For color harmony:
Color Harmony Workbook: A Workbook and Guide to Creative Color Combinations

And one of the best tools for using colors is to get a cheap color-wheel at an art store and tape it to your desk or where ever you paint and use it to pick quality color swatches. Good luck.

>>1534173
no

>>1534169
awww thanks butthurt animoo dipshit but no. :D

>>1534174
-1

>>1534178
hahah what.

>>1534174
no what?

>>1534141
mee too, however i got offered a job in high school an internship really to work for sonys animation anime studio, i thought i was too cool..

2 years later got into anime.

Could have had a fucking good background in art at age 16, i hate myself.

>>1528833
Isn't the depth on the mona lisa kind of shit? Sorry I'm a pleb still.

>>1514430
My progress

>>1535134
The one on the left has a better composition.

>>1535173
i agree.

>>1534174
Okay, I'll take your word, stranger.

>>1534371
>Shit conservation status
>Shit photo
>I-it's muh style
>Being defensive from beyond the grave
This is more like what she should look like, possibly.

>>1531554
Same anon. Font in pic is also a good fit. Maybe for thought text. Or just whatever is going on in here.

>>1535201
>That kerning

The "T" and "h" are melted together.

>>1514461
in all those years you didn't get better you're doing the same thing which is badly copying pokemon charactes and ben 10 first of which is not even a good looking anime and ben 10 is not even anime

study how to draw human forms and faces so you can understand what to draw instead of doing that which is like masturbation

I know this isn't that much progress, but I was still very surprised on how well I could draw that nose, compared to ones I did before.

First one is around March, right one yesterday, done in ~20 minutes

>>1535134

Need more Loomis.

>>1535206
The poster is not the one who made it...

>Old classics ok?

>>1535211
Its just a nose, and its a huge one if the head is that size

>All of these amazing progresses.
>All of these shit ones.
Makes me wonder since i don't know how to draw, is there a minimum age where drawing is easiest?

Have there ever been any great or talented artists who started painting or drawing in their early 20's, say?

Feels good man

brynklord.deviantart.com

>>1528833

Keep working on colors, everything is yellow.

1/10

>>1535297
You get better at art when you start taking it seriously with study. Age does not matter. Min Yum started in his 30s. Craig Mullins started in his 20s.

>>1535297
You need to draw from child or you will always be bad.

>>1534086

What are you driving at? Digital art is only going to become a bigger part of the industry, there are very few pro's to using traditional materials.

>>1535274
It's not about the whole image, it's about the difference in skill. I was able to analyse and construct the second one, while the first one has no construction at all.

>>1535337
Min Yum started at 25 & Mullins at 23 (but I'm fairly certain Mullins had an industrial design degree before he started)

>>1535297
While age isn't that relevant (though it probably becomes harder as time goes on due to the decrease in grey matter) some people just progress faster than others for some reason or another. For example someone like Dan Warren has been doing this all the time for quite a few years yet his yearly progress is hardly noticeable, while someone like Algenfledger had a rapid increase over 3 years but started to decline.

>>1535297
Earlier you start the easier it'll be.

it's something?

>>1535388
>muh style

>>1535388
as a total artistical plebeian I quite like the 2013 one but that finger and the foot bending at half way are bothering me

>>1535391
omg i've tried so hard to stray away from muh style this is so defeating )--:

>>1535398
the legs and feet are really messed up, i didn't really have a good drawing underneath

>>1535391
not everything needs to be an academic study

>>1535297

I don't think age matters too much, the main reason why you don't get many great artists starting in their twenties or later though is that to get good requires dedication, which means having a passion about art. If you have enough passion to spend the time learning you're very likely to find it young.

Most people who start in their twenties are more interested in the finished product and the recognition than the actual process of drawing.

That being said, if you do discover a passion for drawing it probably is easier in your twenties, generally you're more focused, can afford materials and books easier, have more control over your spare time, can travel, etc.

I fucking hate when people post like this:
>2010: Picture drawn from imagination
>2013: Picture drawn from reference
>"LOOK AT HOW MUCH PROCESS I'VE MADE!"

>>1535388
I like it

>>1535266
if everyone basis their art off the same shit... Then how is anyone an artist

>>1535388
You definitely have gotten better at making folds look believable. Also, your composition has gotten better too.

You seem more confident with your style. Using solid blocks of color to portray lighting looks better than your outline, which carries no weight and flattens your illustration.

Obvious anatomical hiccups aside, I think you should definitely keep going in your current direction.

>>1535595
You need a good amount of basic drawing skills to be creative, and traditional figure drawing is great at teaching you those skills. You become creative by developing your own style on top of those skills, not by ignoring them.

It's for that reason that most art schools teach figure drawing, gesture drawing, perspective, color theory, visual composition, art history and many more.

You can't really be a postmodernist if you don't understand what you're deconstructing. You can't really be creative if you don't understand what's the norm.

What Loomis teaches is a means to an end, not the end itself.

>>1535607
well thanks for that reply I can understand where your getting at

But my works are self taught and self inspired
i like outsider art and self taught art the most

i feel with to much training you will limit yourself on capabilities you had before the training.

>>1535635
It's important to realize that training should help you understand what you're doing better, not taking away from it. It gives you a different viewpoint to analyze and contextualize your own style. And you can then push/refine it even further.

Ultimately, as long as an illustration itself looks good and is interesting, nothing else really matters.

>>1514474
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7AbrgLlors
fuck that guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nRB9Hwprc