/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

hey it's my dumb ass again... how do you accurately measure the relative distances of the objects? do you just draw their footprints first? how do you make sure they're all on the same plane, perspective-wise?

Re-sized from the other thread

Just trying some stuff out.

Sketch, painting really zoomed out so everything looks retarded right now, or well, looks retarded zoomed in or zoomed out.

>>1513551
See how the base of the cube is placed on the surface and then check how the other objects overlap it

>>1513574
well I like it.

>>1513574
Looks good, but a little too smudgy for me. I'm no artist though, so take that with a grain of salt.

>>1513543

>>1513605
There's a number of construction problems but the main one is that there's way too much between the ear and the edge of the face

>>1513605
Indeed you do.
Assuming you did this with a reference?
If so - try again. sketch only! No values, no colours.
Its way to early for you to try and get goot finished results. Once your drawings are okay, you can start painting in values, then colour.

Its just the most effective way.
If you keep doing full paintings and no studies and dont really learn anything, it costs unnessasary energy and time.

I had to learn the hard way aswell.

>>1513551
Sheeeeesh, you're really having a hard time with this aren't you? move on already. :/

My waifu
Yes that's a girl
I'm not very happy with it overall, feels flat.
It's also not quite so dark, scanner gamma is out of whack

I feel like the farther I go, the worse it's getting :c
maybe I should start over and start with three basic values. Howtomakeitlessmuddy.jpeg

>>1513699
Either the mouth is too small, (though sara's mouth is pretty small anyway), or the chin is just huge.

My value study of the day

>>1513701
thats a sick ref, what is it from?

>>1513704
Found it on deviant art in photography.

>>1513702
I think they are in proportion. That's a big 'I think' though. I think the problem is the bottom lip is too fat and tapers off too quickly, and possibly the mouth itself is too high.
I cannot into redline so I dunno

>>1513711
Actually I think the jaw might be too narrow also.
Eh fuck it, there's a lot wrong with it, I'll get over it.

>>1513625
Thanks. Will do sketchbook drawings focusing on that problem.

>>1513627
No reference - did many studies, without ever working from imagination. Shows that I don't learn anything like that =/
So now I think alternating between with and without reference is the best way? But yeah, gonna draw now. Thank you for the advice.

One more sleeve till I begin the background

>long weekend from tomorrow evening
Hahaha time to study anatomy

>>1513574
i like it but is the shadow wrong on the lower cylinder or am i just stupid

awkward I just posted in the old thread anyway

I'm working on a no more heroes-esque character and I was looking for some critique

Proportions are prolly not too great I know that

and the right arm is fucked up and I'm fixing that

We were talking about how the face looked a little off and I couldnt exactly pinpoint how.

I'm ready to call this done, unless someone points out something I should fix.

>>1513707
i saw that tiny watermark afterwards. i was hoping it was a still from a movie or something.
as for your study, i think its of utmost importance while rendering extreme lighting, where most of what your drawing is the defined forms of the shadows, to have a thorough understanding of whats going on below the shadows before you drape them upon the form. for example, youve created a pointed chin where the light has highlighted, instead of rendering that ponted light as being the apex of the form of her chin. I did a redline of roughly what form is under tht light and shadow but i suggest you find it yourself, draw it, and then cast those shadows off of it so that your study is more of a learning experience :3

>>1513703
arent value studies supposed to be b/w only?
anyway. dont ever touch that soft brush again. its just hurting your paintings.

>>15137
why is there white outlines around everything?

>>1513733
Maybe you could push the sky a bit more from the mountains but overall it's great. Don't know about the flying ducks though, they seem kinda out of place. The ducks on the water should suffice. The farther away ducks seem kinda big but that might be just because of the flying birds on the foreground

>>1513733
I liked it better without the ducks

study

>>1513743
thumbnail looks great.
Do you wanna render it completely, or ust leave it at that level of detail?

>>1513743
>Recovered.jpg
I hate it when Photoshop just decides to crash for no reason while I'm in the middle of something.
It's annoying as hell.

>>1513551
Needs 3 point perspective.

My first attempt at digital painting. I enjoyed it more than I anticipated.

worked on some more...my mech design sense is awful but I don't wanna just copy other mech designs :I I can't never win .Hope I fixed the perspective some...

>>1513788
Pretty good for a first attempt, but stop using the soft brush and start out with just using the simple hard round.

>>1513790
Move the guy a bit to the right (rule of thirds) he looks a bit awkward almost at the border of the canvas.

>>1513744
I wish I could the ref is this http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4082/4911165955_0a6c3e95f7_o.jpg

maybe later

>>1513730
Holy shit. You have a LOT to learn. I recommend gesture drawing -> perspective -> forms&anatomy -> value path for your learning. It's been working wonders for me

i adore this >>1513790

i disagree with >>1513793 the wide-angle composition complicates the rule of thirds. i think the space between the human and the mech is lovely, it creates a psychological space between the organic and the machine and adds narrative

>>1513791
Thanks. Yeah I had like 50 brushes to choose from and no idea what to do with any of them, so I just stuck to the same brush and changed the opacity when I felt like it.

>>1513703
Spend more time studying structure and solid forms in perspective. You'll have a much easier time with the painting process if you first ensure that the drawing is correct.

some colour studies

>>1513835
Very very nice.

Didnt do shit for the first half of my day, then got my shit toghether.
Posting a still life I did.
Thoughts?

>>1513839
And a study.

Todays portrait studies.
High focus on brushwork.

>>1513856
Look good, I like the serious expressions

>>1513856
i'm not sure how your references look but those pure blacks look kind of off-putting, especially around the eyes. there are areas of your painting that feel like you've put too many details into where you could have done a lot simpler instead. like the nose and lips of the left painting. Other than that good job!

redrawing and old favourite of mine, colours need work it's looking a little flat,

>>1513875
heh thanks.
The references were very dark yes. I know the colours are not the greatest. And I often try to not detail up to many things, but it ... just happens. Much to learn.

>>1513543
Ok let's try again.

im doing some sketches, trying to get used to photoshop so i can take my tablet and laptop to figure drawing and not look like I have autism and no comprehension of technology. which happened last week.
21 minutes, 8:23-8:44

>>1513885
Looks like something straight out of Dust.

>>1513896

fuck, forgot the pic

>>1513884
gorgeous. ref?

>>1513895
I haven't seen Dust 514's weapon designs. I looked at real references and primarily used elements from some game concept designs as well.

I assembled a few more variants.

>>1513902
too much detail, form fragmented as fuck.
you should just draw a sketch and build it in 3D program and show various view. what you did might work for a 2D flash shitty game.

>>1513572
those are cuuute
>>1513719
i'm impressed
>>1513835
top right is super cool
>>1513884
even more impressed

>>1513901
scene from orlando

Phew all finished. Any ideas to better the background?

>>1513735
>>1513830
Thanks

>>1513924
Looks good, but I think you should give a bit of randomness to the background. You know, maybe give it some subtle random textures. Some people go in with a texture brush and play around with its "color dynamics" option. Just give it a bit of life, because as it is, it looks really plain and airbrushed, whereas the figure looks like it was actually painted.

>>1513936
>>1513924
Adding noise can work too, as long you don't over do it. Just do something that unifies the figure and background so they look like they're actually part of the same painting.

>>1513936
>>1513938
sorry this is my second time drawing in photoshop. Don't exactly know where these tools are.

Found the color dynamics one.. I'll play around with it.

>>1513543
Some drawing besides gesture drawing. I'm still learning basic such as a building from basic shapes, understandig the form before getting into lighting and color.

>>1513924
Your brushwork looks a bit... "muddy", even in this small format. But your eye for lighting has me amazed!

How is this? Improvement compared to the other background? Needs more work?

>>1513962
Looks better. I think you should Richard Schmid's chapter on Edges in his book "Alla Prima". Edges are quite important yet it's ignored by many.

Both Min Yum and Tom Scholes have a good understanding of edges, if you're looking for examples.

>>1513970
>yet it's ignored by many.
Let me clarify myself: It's inadequately studied by many

>>1513961
thank you :D

I think parts look muddy because for some reason I decided to blur parts after finishing them. The sleeves and head are unblurred and look a lot better. If it's everything in general maybe I need to render them more.

Halp, how's I dun did a better? Still pretty new to PS, these might be my 6th or 7th PS studies. If I keep doing references will I eventually be god? I WANT TO BE GOD, HELP ME.

>>1513962
Your form needs some work (hands and feet are creepy) but your lighting OH LAWDS ALL MY JIZZ.

Just a quick practice. I'll continue it tomorrow at the same time.

>>1513992
I hope you're not intending to go full Alg on this.

>>1513996
What is alg?

>>1513996
>Alg
algenpfleger?

>>1513997
algenpfleger.

He's an artist that likes to detail every little thing and lasso shit like crazy.

>>1514000
I actually have no fucking clue how to Lasso. I've seen that crazy Janasci painting, but I don't really get how they do it?

And actually, I was inspired to do a still life because I looked at one of Alp's old ones today! I probably should've just used a lamp for this instead of natural lighting, but oh well.

>>1514002
Yeah, I actually don't like Jana or Hannes' illustrations. Which I know makes me sound like a bitter jealous faggot, but I really just don't. They both have this really soulless style of painting that is just uninteresting to me. Same with Alex Negrea. All three have a similar aesthetic to their work, Jana probably less so.

>>1514000
Is this because the goal of studies is to have the general idea down (i.e. the thumbnail looks accurate) rather than capturing all the unimportant details?
Or is it because you feel that hyper-realism is too sterile? I've never done studies before so I'm trying to get stuff straight before I start.

>>1514006
I kinda agree, but I enjoy their stuff nonetheless. Alg seems to at least do really interesting angles sometimes.

>>1514009
Generally you go from basic to complex unless you're really good and have this shit down to a science. And for a still life especially you should do basic stuff, as that natural sunlight won't stand still all day. Gotta quickly block in those values.

>>1514012
doodled these from imagination while watching the vilppu quick sketch lecture.

>>1514009
I don't like his stuff in general because he paints almost everything in extreme detail. The goal of a painter is not to create an illusion by replicating reality in all its exactness, but rather create an illusion by replicating a HUMAN MIND'S interpretation of that reality. Humans don't see everything in a canvas with extreme focus and detail. We lose the information that is not within our focus. This is a human aspect that he just doesn't have in his work. He works like a cyborg camera.

>>1514021
>The goal of a painter is not to create an illusion by replicating reality in all its exactness, but rather create an illusion by replicating a HUMAN MIND'S interpretation of that reality.

I totally disagree. Honestly, a painter shouldn't be restricted by any goal. Alg and co do fine pieces BEFORE getting into the details.

I mean, like you said, humans don't see all the detail in a painting, so why should it matter if they go into extreme detail (I wouldn't even call their stuff extreme detail, it's pretty standard compared to other artists)

still establishing and refining

>>1513574
watch that perspective!

>>1513741>>1513733

agreed, they look less well constructed than the rest of the painting. otherwise its p. tight

quick still life
unfortunately everything got moved while i was working on it, and the lighting was a bit dim, but it turned out decent

>>1514023
>I mean, like you said, humans don't see all the detail in a painting, so why should it matter if they go into extreme detail
Sorry, that's not what I meant to say. I meant to say we don't see everything in extreme detail/sharpness in real life. It matters if you put in a ton of detail into a painting or not because we are working on a single 2d plane.

Another point I'd like to make about painting like a human versus painting like a camera: High Speed cameras and Motion. A high speed camera will capture a running/jumping person perfectly clear and in extreme detail, but our eyes do not see motion like that. Things get blurred, so paint it that way.

>a painter shouldn't be restricted by any goal

But the thing is, if part of a painter's goal is not to paint like a human, instead of replicating like a camera, why paint at all? You can take a photograph that will look 100x better.

>>1514006
I know what you mean. A lot of appleflinger's work is very 'clinical' and lifeless. A lot of it is due to his approach with lassos and masks, which he supposedly does to minimize wrist strain. The result is a lack of vibrant and efficient brushwork and stale edge control - leading to a 'made by a program' instead of a 'created by a painter' feel IMO.

Aside from that and his distinctive 'same-face', I do enjoy his work a lot. He does seem to have plateaued a bit compared to his early years online, which is a bummer.

Guy who did Mark O'Mara here. Did this painting of a friend. I don't really into oils often, so getting a feel for them in ArtRage took a bit. The extent of the critique I've gotten so far has revolved around the background, which is admittedly filler, and my work on her right eye, which was in the shade in the photo. I'm proud of it, but that doesn't mean it's anything special. She liked it, that's really all that matters there. Still, I'd like to get better.

>>1514038
>instead of replicating like a camera, why paint at all?

Again, I REALLY think you're exaggerating Alg and co's level of detail. I can go into their gallery and, unless it's a still life, I can guarantee you it will have painterly qualities.

Also, I forget the location, but on the DeviantArt of a hyperrealist called "Nimra", one of his journals explains why he does hyperrealism instead of taking a photo.

Either way, I really don't see a problem with hyperdetail in things like fantasy or sci-fi paintings, as they offer a level of detail for something that isn't real.

>>1514041
>>1514041
>A lot of it is due to his approach with lassos and masks, which he supposedly does to minimize wrist strain.
Yeah, it really sucks, because I actually like his older work.

>>1514045
> I REALLY think you're exaggerating Alg and co's level of detail.
I'm probably accidentally giving that message. I was not trying to say that he was going for a hyper realistic approach, but rather an "all equal detail/sharpness" approach (Everything in the frame being of the same detail/sharpness level).
>Nimra
Took a look and, yeah, I actually don't like his work at all.

By the way, I hope I'm not giving the impression that I hate his stuff or that no one should like it. But I bet that, if he didn't get double tendinitis, he would have rather painted in a more painterly way given the choice.

>>1514042
frightening

hello there

>>1514014

looking solid

>>1514068
0/10 apply yourself

blah. ive been posting loomis (reffed and unreffed) and still lives pretty consistently for the past few days, but god damn i feel like i'm getting no where. ugh. I feel like i'm having trouble analyzing or learning from what i'm doing at all, i'm just being mindless. What do?

>>1513543

am i overrendering it

does this look normal

>>1514112
where are the teeth

>>1514115

coming soon :<

>>1514109
Get a mirror, rinse repeat. Your second head looks fine, just the eyes are weird

Not finished, but how's it looking so far?

>>1514114
i feel like the left buttock's curve should be a little less severe, but it might just be the viewing angle and/or the lack of any visible left thigh, otherwise everything else looks good

>>1514136
anatomy looks right, but the scars on his face and arm look to straight, like they don't conform to the curve and shape of his body features

Just tentatively finished this
Something's bothering me about it, I think the neck cranes forward too much

>>1513832
I love this character design, the collar especially looks good
the right (leftmost) upper arm looks a little odd, though- it might just be the ballooning shoulder-fabric, but it seems like the bicep should curve outward instead of inward, like the other arm does.

>>1513869
I like the style, kind of like an obese Popeye, but the closes leg looks like the foot should come down farther- it doesn't look like it's on the same plane as the stool and the other foot, more like it's up in the air

>>1513856
Holy shit the thumbnails looked like photographs, and the pictures themselves did succeed at impressing.
I like the heavy blacks personally, but like >>1513875 said, they are a little strong around the eyes

>>1514014
The lady on the left is my favorite, great pose
Everything else is looking pretty good, the figure sitting on the far right's legs look a little uneven, but nothing major

Ten minute drawing from mind, no references, that's my mug mark on it..
arm looks a little off though, i should start drawing from life

>>1514163
Looks alright proportions-wise for having no reference, the expression is great as well, though eyes would have really sold it
You should look into some anatomical studies though, the arms are a bit off- primarily the forearms, but really nothing too outrageously bad.
Also, the tail looks odd at that lowest curve towards the end, it looks more flat and less rounded

>>1513551
i'd like to ask you to notice where the cylinder is in relation to the cube. i'd also like to ask you to realize the your cylinder is not in the same area as the one in the picture to the right. maybe that can help you in figuring out your specific problem.

>>1514136
added more details and change a few things.
>>1514141
Thanks i tried to fix it, but i don't know if i did it right.

>>1513839
a pebble and a tape measure?

Somethings off & I think it's her head piece or the piece of the helm that covers the eye on the left.
Lissandra from LoL.

>>1514289
Here's another one of mine. I can't get his hands right, and I don't know where to start painting. :S

>>1514289
>>1514290
Use some sort of reference to see what a person actually looks like when you draw.

>>1514297
>2013
>still being a slave to ref

>>1514298
not everyone has money to hire a model or a hot gf.

>>1514314
you know you are allowed to draw not hot people, even yourself in a mirror :O

>>1514298
dude, what are you up to?!
everyone uses references. Even professionals use them here and there.
No shame in doing so.

>>1514297
I am using a reference for the first piece. Unfortunately, the ref doesn't have the helmet so I have make it up. :I

For the pink guy, I haven't used a ref. His torso's not right. I'll use a frame to correct it.

>>1514320
Yes, but I can have only one type of face.

sketchin... I dont really like either of them

Appointment with gnomon in the next two weeks
I'll tell you gents how it goes

>>1514290

You're in what I like to call the GAP

You really have no idea what anything is or how it works together

Words like anatomy ,form ,perspective. You know what they mean but cant quite apply them ,

The fix anon! studying. and well what I do just DRAW NIGGA

>>1514356
sketchbook thread

>>1514112

Certain areas look highly rendered whilst others look like loose blockins - this can actually help push focal points - being the face I presume?

As is the piece feels awkard the cutoff is what's killing me. That and I feel its a buff cat women.

>>1514027
update~

>>1514450
impressive

>>1514450
What was the starting photoplate?

Watch that road - if you can try and find demolishing sites to get it from real life. A road wont smoothly go into the earth like that all kinds of cracks will see to that.

The rubble on the road seems very transparant compared to the ruble just behind it, maybe make a more distinct edge to seperate them.

Done a few more of these.

>>1514462
ah nice yeah good shout, i will break up that road a lot, thanks! yeah gotta work on that rubble tomorrow. any other crits are very much appreciated

>>1514162
yeah that guy's legs were rushed due to the awkward moment of my dad walking in
"son what are you doing"
"oh look he's diving"
"i'm ashamed of you son"
>>1514072
can't tell if that's a pun about form, but thanks!

Someone on /v/ requested Tomoko cosplaying as tharja, so I've been working on that.

I got my tablet two months ago so I'm still getting my way around photoshop and stuff.

It's mostly finished I just have to make a background

>>1514507

Simply her into 3d box forms. Theres various perspective issues atm. Box forms would help you out quite a bit me thinks.

Also the line quality is terrible, Think of where you're going and not where you are when drawing lines. It's wierd but it helps with line confidence.

>>1514512

Sorry I had to delete that one it looks kind of twisted, have to fix that.

Also the lines look terrible because I still cannot into drawing clothes, here is the nude version, notice the cleaner lines.

gawd, why do humans have legs

>>1514517
It looks like an x-ray of her insides from the thumb nail.

Am I doing it right?

I'm not quite sure what I should be practicing (I just know that I'm not at where I'd like to be).

Should I be working on specific body parts from now on?

>>1514517
Why is her anus so fucking red

>>1514517
fix those colors, holy fuck. that red is 200% too pronounced. look at the thumbnail.

>>1514552
>>1514554

It's the way I like coloring

For the feedback I guess

>>1514564
>m-muh style!

Fuck off.

>>1514564
>It's the way I like coloring
Take it to the Animu/Mango thread. That's what it's there for.

>>1514565

I didn't say I wasn't going to change it, I just said that it ended that way because I like pronounced colors. I'll tone it down a bit.

I'm a humble amateur drawfriend that draws for fun, no need to sperg it out, calm down.

>>1514517
>tumblr butt

>>1514568

It looks fine to me, this is coming from someone who has fapped to a lot of hentai, vivid colors that reflect on private parts are a legit style in japan, I'm guessing you absorbed that style a bit.

Autists like >>1514565 probably do traditional drawing so they have no idea about how hentai works, and thus it does look unrealistic in the eyes of someone that draws a different kind of art.

Don't take /ic/ too seriously, it's mostly an elitism circlejerk.

Props on being humble though.

>>1514573

>vivid colors that reflect on private parts are a legit style in japan

Oh god first thing that came to mind was nezumi

>>1514567

Oh shit sorry I didn't even realize there was one.

Sorry to bother you guys with my shit art.

>>1514573
Please, show me a hentai which has an anus that red

>>1514568
Please do because it looks terrible. Pronounced colors look good if you do them correctly and in the right way. Throwing red all over feet and anus is disturbing to look at.

>>1514587

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=nezunezu

What now retard

>>1514587

Well I've seen it a lot in hentai that features intercourse.

But that is mostly the inside, not the outside, which is where I made the mistake.

>>1514595

All right thanks for helping me improve

>>1514596
I didnt know it was supposed to b prolapse

>>1514598
Welcome. Don't forget light source and having blended rendering when softening up colors or adding. Good luck.

I know it's kinda hard to see but is my construction/perspective alright before I move onto details?

>>1514573
>trying to praise hentai as high art
top kek

95% of hentai artists are terrible artists.

>>1514624
So true.

>>1514624

Says the ragtag nobody on /ic/, show us your art then if you're such hot shit.

>>1514608

I-I don't even know what that means...

Please remember I got into this whole digital image thing like a month ago.

>>1514622

Right eye is a bit fucked up, make him look more straight

I drew a baby.

>>1513879

>>1514633
He didn't claim to be a great artist. He just said most hentai artists aren't good.

>>1514634
Research newfag.

>>1514637
Very sloppy.

>>1514639
which is true, if I may add.

>>1513543

>>1514640

T-thanks y-you too

>>1514641
She wasn't a very cooperative model.

>>1514042
>I'd like to get better.
Dedicate yourself to it and you can do it.
Thats all that matters.

>>1514650
>Its a smile.
More like a look of disgust to me. lol

Aaaand back to fundamentals with you...

>>1514622
I'm not on a level were i should be doing red lines, but i tried anyway. If i helps just a little, try to draw your box in perspective before drawing the head.

>>1514540
Legs are awesome.
>Female legs... *droool*
Anyway. Your sketch is awesome already.
The legs you erased were to short though. Otherwise good.

sketched another chick shes mokay buttttttttttt in order to do this well im gonna need to ref, mad gay yo. I haet refin .

>>1514700
Good so far - even though the pose is quite weird.
its like: "Look at my *"

Also -> Add some highlights and proper light.
> I haet refin.
If you have done art for 10 years and mastered a lot of subjects I might agree with you.
Otherwise don't hate it. Everyone does it, even professionals.

>>1514284
A hardened rock and wacom pen holders!

Started on working on this right now!
My first digital drawning ever and I'm not a very good artist, so it's a mess of layers and ideas.

Should I add something? And beside that, I don't know if to draw a crypt with undeads, an underground forest, or anything else. :c

Advice?

Also advice on this?

and this aswell.

>>1514705

It's not that I hate it. it's usually a conflict of finding a ref that works and it takes time and im lazy uhh FIN ILL FIND A REF >:(

>>1514710
Uh. I can hardly see whats going on.
>My first digital drawning ever
You then should start on a simpler subject.
>I'm not a very good artist.
If you do art to get better I'd then suggest you go back to fundamentals along with simple subjects for a while longer.

>so it's a mess of layers and ideas
No. No mess of layers please.
I know a lot of ppl say it doesnt really matter wether you use 1 layer or 100. It really doesn't once you know what you do. Before that, stick to a few layers. 3 is good. 1 foreground - 1 midground - 1 background for example.
It forces you to overpaint stuff and try new things out.

>Should I add something? And beside that, I don't know if to draw a crypt with undeads, an underground forest, or anything else. :c
No! - try your favourite vegetable or fruit as a stillife. Observe the reference well. take care of good colours, light, values and composition.


Concerning the picture you uploaded:
- Draw less. Paint more. Simple and big strokes. Those criss-corss sketching lines are okay for proper pencil sketches. not for this.

- Dont do those messy pure black outlines either please.
The birck for example. Do a full plain wall first. then paint the bricks on top of it one by one.

>>1514711
Okay colours. Overall feel is acceptable.
The strongest of those three. You should work on your brushwork though.

>>1514712
Obviously unfinished. Water is probably to detailed for its distance. You should have rather detailed up the frontal things and leave the water plain. If its just the water you wanted to go for I guess its okay. I'd still flatten out some areas though.

>>1514714
No. Just no.


keep going!

critique please

>>1514722
Yay! You know how to render skin the anime way.
>Atleast its something. jk - it looks good.
Wings are okay aswell. The Hair - not so much.
Less fine lines, more big shapes with huge strokes. Refine some areas afterwards if you feel the need for it. But with the style you go fore big strokes would do just fine.

The white background: No - don't do it...

Anatomy wise: Well since you have hidden most of it I guess its okay.
The Asscheeks are a bit off though. So is her left leg. I feel it drops to the floor to quickly.

If its anime you go for or come from it looks nice so far though.

>>1514721
Thanks for the feedback bro.

I want to watch Vlippu's lecture's but theyre all pretty long, before I take the plunge, are they worth the time?

>>1514735
Yes

>>1514735

What else is there better to do, not counting your job if you have one?

>>1514746
I could always be programming, or playing videogames. Or learning from another source
>>1514744
Thanks

what do you think, anatomy okay? simplistic pose I know.

i maeking peintign
u liek?

critique please

perspective practice

>>1514751
Love it

>>1514752

>>1513325

>>1514724
>Anatomy wise: Well since you have hidden most of it I guess its okay.
Never critique again.

Study WIP - any tips on rendering better? I want to show nicer brush strokes if that makes sense?
Critique appreciated.

>>1514841
Ref

Faces, like the filename says.

>>1514841
nice and clean i like it, you've made his nose and jaw much larger though, and those lips look terrible

First time posting here, critique please.

>>1514841
I guess you only need to make softer transitions between the values, blending the colors with the color picker and a brush that's got some opacity. Only a personal taste thing though, but I prefer when you can see the brush strokes.

>>1514850
Thanks, and I know the lips are really bad. I wasn't sure how to render them because I usually just cross-hatch things when I do portraits and never really put all that much effort into the lips. I'll go back and fix what you said.

>>1514867
I like when you can see brush stokes too (painterly or something?). I'll try to do that more on my next study. Thanks for your feedback.

Drew my brother as a gorilla in Animal Crossing style :) be gentle...

>>1513978
and no, you will never be god

>>1513978
spend more time looking, and less time mark making, you are putting the strokes in all the wrong points.
sloooooowwwww dooooowwwwwwn

...hit me /ic/

>>1514845
you have got the proportions almost down, i suggest you pay more attention to how you make you're marks , to portray certain elements/features of the face.

like, handlebar mustaches do not have a border line in real life, so why in your pic?

the marks are in the correct places but the marks are incorrect in themselves for showing the values they should.

the marks you are leaving are just scratchy, ugly and take away from the accuracy you have shown in the proportions.

>>1514915
~* poink *~

be neater, it's so untidy the values are getting fucked.

^_-

Noticing improvement when youre just starting out is a fantastic feeling, gives me reason to keep pushing on

>>1514918
ty

>>1514637
i like it

>>1514919
I will try to keep that in mind, thank you.

Trying to move away from gray layer.

>>1513699
With the choppy shading you made it seem like she has rough skin or something, I thought it was a dude when I first saw it. Women are delicate and smooth for the most part, less detail I guess.

>>1514961
I like this, keep up the good work anon!
Feels frazettaish

more perspective shit
haven't really done this kind of stuff before so i'm pretty happy with how it's turning.
also did these >>1514772
would appreciate some feedback

>>1513840
the horror

>>1514989
Seems decent, keep at it. I find it easier to do that on paper though.

>>1514989
That car is super boxy but I love it.

>>1514996
yeah, ive done a bit on paper. its way easier to make nicer lines.
>>1514997
haha thanks

>>1513703
dat nose

>>1514964
Thank you! I'm kind of crashing through color just using light and cool. would like to get better though, Is James Gurney's book actually pretty good for this? if so, I'm pickin' dat shit up. (I Don't know why it wouldn't that guy's a boss)

>>1515035
Sorry 'Warm and cool'. I'm tired as fuck...

My approach to drawing in general feels all wrong. Kind of in a slump, just trying to force my way through it with figure work.

Shitty ass perspective drawing of floating castles.

>>1515038
That's because you used no construction. Practice gestures using curves method (read Hampton) then construct with boxes and contours.

>>1515082
looks sweet man.

Please help, where to place the nipples?
Too much neck? What's wrong with the torso?
I don't understand it anymore

>>1515128
These questions could mostly be answered by using a reference picture.
Besides the ears, are you going for a human appearance?

Drew these characters that had been floating around in my head as of late.

>>1515140
I couldn't find the exact pose.
Ears and eyes. I wanted them to look more supernatural but not like 'oh you know it's an elf anatomy whatcha gonna do'. Just balanced and pleasant to the eye would be ok to me.

Tried to work a bit on one of the rabbits I created earlier.

>>1515151

I like this man, any more?

>>1515151
These are very very good.

>>1515151
Very cool

>>1515151
your lines are always so stylish, Thdork

>>1513698
by move on do you mean give up? i was under the impression this was an important skill. you mean i should move on to something else temporarily?

>>1515151
I really like the red line you used on the hand and ears.

I'm thinking of something dynamic to add in the foreground. A group of grouse fucking around maybe?

idk

>>1515203
May make it too crowded?

I like it, but I'm not sure what to look at.

idk

this ones kinda concept arty

>>1515211
What's with the background paint showing on the left of the figure? It detracts. TH eleft of the painting seems overall less finished and interesting.

>>1515213
maybe if i make the buildings completely opaque that'll balance it out more

Guys I just don't know anymore. I want to be able to draw human beings, I do. I thought I was really starting to get good a few days ago, but I'm noticing now I still lack the extremely important skill of seeing the "whole" of my subject, and I'll draw parts of the body or whatever it is I'm looking at hideously out of proportion to the rest of the drawing. I basically feel like I can't draw a fucking thing in the world. Look at the difference in size of the two legs at the rightmost drawing. I can notice things like that only immediately after drawing them, but I don't know what to do to prevent it. I'm sure eliminating these kinds of problems is one of the main benefits of seeing larger forms in more intricate and detailed subjects, and I'm trying to do that, but I just fucking can't, even when I'm actually just drawing basic geometric shapes (I'm the first reply to this thread) I manage to fuck up the entire proportion, scale, dimensions, everything that you NEED to have a grasp on in order to make any drawing look anywhere near the way you want it to. I know the importance of all of these principles, but somehow knowing is not enough for me to even begin to apply that knowledge. I take my time with my drawings, I observe, and really carefully place my lines and angles, and try to analyze and generate an internal dialogue that will help me to most accurately portray what it is I'm trying to portray. I'm still trying hard every day, and I'm going to go back to it once I'm done writing this, but I just don't know, guys.

>>1515222
you need to slow down. Nobody can draw a perfect figure within a few minutes but it looks like you believe someone with the required knowledge and some practice should be able to do that.
Figure drawing and everything else should be approached in steps (procedual drawing) rather than the type of drawing where every line is a finished line.
If something is wrong and you see that, it's up to you to fix that. Learn from your mistakes.
Give "The Vilppu Drawing Manual" a try. You go through 12 lessons (every week one if you want) from the sphere over proportions and anatomay up to a finished drawing in tone. You should stick to the rule of one lesson every week even though the basics aren't very spectacular they are still the most important part.

>>1513790
>tfw wanna put down evening sunset desert colors and it looks like shit...

Testing new waters, what should I do differently?

>>1513551
Kniting needles is what i use to mesure proportions and distances, its really easy once you get a grip of it

pls critique

>>1515247
needs alot more work, also the shield looks like its glued to the hand

>>1515247
More contrast in your values.
Elaborate on the forms you're trying to convey.

>>1515238
I'm diggin the spotlights, maybe make the background darker so they pop out a little more? Possibly

>>1515082
>goose.jpg

>>1515222
draw it again

>>1515249
>>1515248
Thanks. It's obv a WIP, I fixed the shield, but yeah, I need to work on her values. Right now she looks kind of bland or flat.

>>1515257
I put some work into it, I also removed the face because I was unhappy with it. Tell me how I'm doing, am I going in the right direction

>>1513699
>>>/mu/
See you monday for the T & S thread

>>1515278
Is this leaked concept art of Call of Duty Kitchen Warfare?

>>1515300
I haven't seen a kitchen joke in so long, I got nostalgia.

>>1515254
u like?

>>1514279
Aha, the scars look great- Good job

>>1514324
The hand on her leg looks a little small, and her forearm maybe a little short, otherwise nice position

Here's my current WIP. Thoughts/critique?

>>1515278
pond?

how to make a cube look like a wooden cube?

I need help ;_;

how do i paint hair?
tutorial anyone?

>>1515250
support this

small study of a saville painting. mediocre photo.

>>1516111
>studying saville
>by drawing

I don't understand the point behind this.

Something I was working on a bit a while ago. Need some tips, and maybe actually after lurking here a bit to start working in b/w first.
Also I think I'm going to make a note to myself to check the archives for colour theories and tips.

>>1516118

you are trying a bit too hard to copy colors and values at this point, it is especially clear in the abdomen area where reference's navel is down a straight line while your navel is in a very curvy line. You made it look like the abdomen packs bulge out of the body towards the left side.

TLDR: work on structure, stop copying. What good is bridge decorated with diamonds if it's wiggling badly enough to fall apart

>>1516109
fucking hair
how do i paint hair?

>>1516116
This guy..

>>1516136
Before focusing on hair, you need to fix those asymmetrical eyes! Remember to religiously flip your canvas while you work!

how can i improve hands anatomy? what am i doing wrong?

>>1516238
>what am i doing wrong?
so... so many things...

>>1516255
OK, what is the worst thing about hands?

>>1516238
I don't know, if only there was a book that focused on drawing hands, and maybe heads as well. If I were to write such a book I would probably call it "Drawing the Head and Hands"

Chiaroscuro

>>1516495
That's not what chiaroscuro is...

>>1516554
what is it then?

This is me not quite understanding how perspective works. I just don't know how to apply a cube over a human head. Any suggestions guys?

Not really sure where to go from here.

I hardly draw people or color my work at all, any and all critique welcomed.

>>1516626
The thighs aren't thick enough, and if the thighs are really far away then the knees aren't big enough

>>1514027
>/ic/ 2013

>no one recognizes Teh Meh

>>1514465
did you render that yourself?

>>1514841
you made him look like a peasant commoner