/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

wip, thoughts?

Amateur jobbiest here looking to improve
Please help

>>1510869
very nice, any blog,deviantart etc... i can follow?

>>1510869
Reminds me of the Guild Wars 2 concept arts

>>1510872
Jobbiest?
I hope you meant hobbyist

>>1510876
Oh my bad yeah sorry
*hobbiest

>>1510872
*hobbiest

>>1510869

very cool, keep posting progress

i think i know who you are

>>1510869

>>1510873
Seconding this. Also, marry me?

>>1510869
BE my teacher!

Why does it take so long to get the perfect face~

>>1510869
Very cool, I also like how you added the reflection of the letters in the OP post.

>>1510872
Sticky~

>>1510869
wtf i am watching?

Wip. How does it look so far? Is the lower part of the face too awkward? I'm not so good with anatomy rules and such

Comp study.

So, does anyone have some useful tipps on how to paint nice trees and stuff like in pic related ?
Currently working on that and am kinda stuck, since I havent really gotten into landscapes yet. Just starting to.

>>1510869
>being this destiny
i love you anyway

>>1510926

dat dere zedig hehe :)

dude has a great eye for composition and color

Tweaking some more.

Did this last night before bed. It's George Zimmerman's defense attorney. Don't have a tablet at the moment, so I had to use my mouse.

>>1511042
>mfw

>>1511047

Character concepts.
Any thoughts/crits?

>>1510865
Who is that in your drawing?

update. Not sure how to approach this more, without making the values looking muddy. any techniques?

>>1511093
You can't even tell what the basic forms of these are, this would be completely useless in a production pipeline.

>>1511093
>all these filters
why

>>1511123
Is he using filters?

>>1511125
Obviously. looks at all these perfect diagonal blurs strokes.

>>1511127
Perhaps he was just using an angled brush?

>>1511118
There is a ton of time until I get a job. Got 3-4 years more to study.
Thanks for the tip. Will do some form studies and maybe try to define forms clearer.

>>1511127
Yeah, now that I look at it more, I'm pretty sure it's the same angled brush Dave Rapoza uses to do his sketches.

>>1511130
Its Jamie Jones's brush set. I fell in love with the angled brush even though its tricky I get to play around with light and shadow quite well.
Never use filters btw.
Captcha: says rjamon

>>1511135
>Never use filters btw.
I actually don't agree with that.

I think you should use whatever tools photoshop has to offer, as long as you know how they work and how to achieve the same effect without them. It's like saying you should only use the hard round. Sure, in the beginning it should be just about the only brush you use, but that's only because a beginner has no idea what the purpose of the other brushes are.

>>1511142
Shit. Didnt mean it that way. I meant I never use filters. As in the stage I am, is a beginner and beginners shouldnt mess around with all that.

>>1511154
Ah okay. My bad.

>>1510869
Sick.

The thing in the middle of the chest is hard to make out. Are the brown and silver parts made of a hard metal, or is that more cloth? Also, is that entire mass poking through the main cloak, or is it resting on top like a neck tie?

I tried the Igor exercise once again
http://s15.postimg.org/bbdtvxc8r/igor_001.jpg
This is my first attempt, and I've uploaded my second attempt this time.

I tried some shading/shadows in this piece.

>>1511183
10/10

>>1511189
Thanks anon :D

>>1511116
pls

>>1511207
chambam would be proud

Comments?

one day I'll into the human figure

Critique please.

>>1511238

Torso too long. Hips are weird.

Apart from bad anatomy I like it.

>>1511245
I personally don't think the anatomy is all that bad. Exaggerated, yes. Bad, no.

>>1511257
I agree, other than the tiny head

>>1511233
Don't omit the gesture from the figure. You lost a lot of the figure's movement (notable around the pelvis). You also need to observe the figure more carefully, as you've drawn the ribcage at a 3/4 view when it's mostly shown from the side.

If you haven't watched the proko gesture videos on youtube, I suggest you check those out.

>>1511257

The painting is good. Hence, why even through the anatomy is garbage is looks good.

If he fixed the anatomy the picture would look better. Just makes no sense. Like it flattens the body giving a 2D feel.

>>1511265
I honestly don't think you have a good grasp of anatomy yourself. "Good" anatomy doesn't mean having perfectly proportioned figures. And no, I don't think the anatomy is very good, but I really don't think it's "garbage" either.

Also, what do you mean by "The painting is good"? Honestly, what is that supposed to tell us? That he has good brushstrokes? He has a good sense of form? Good lighting? What are you talking about?

got drunk or a few months. wanna get back into artsy fartsy.
say something

This a quick sketch, I need some help before I go any further.

Do the shadows in this picture make sense? The context is that she's standing under a bridge, and that she's viewing the shadows of people walking upon the bridge. I think it would because the sun's angle could make the shadows stretch, but I need to make sure.

>>1511287
something

Tear me a new one

>>1511314
not my style, but pretty rad

looks like DRUGI though not DRUGS

>>1511314
also you shouldnt have covered up the needle he's injecting into his arm with the letters, thats the coolest part of the drawing

>>1511314
Yeah, people keep saying that, but alas it's too late to change it.

>>1511317
Yeah, but I wanted to emphasize the actual paraphernalia that he was holding more than that. I wanted the actual injection to be more of an easter egg.

>>1511322
well done then, because you achieved exactly what you just said

the SEX piece is the weakest of the 3 youve posted so far, bad comp

>>1511319
coool line work, bad comp

>>1511322
>>1511319
>>1511314
MY EYES! argh. The drawings arent even that bad. well the blue one is. Anyway. Those colours are terrible to the eyes!

having monitor troubles

>>1511361

>>1511361
You could benefit from some value massing. I can't make out anything from the thumbnail at all, which is an indicator of bad major value design.

>>1511337
I know, the SEX piece was just a last-minute sketch because I spilled coffee on the one that I was initially going to give to the client like, the day of.

>>1511337
I tend to have composition problems. I'm trying to work on it but it still eludes me. Thanks for the compliment on the lines, though.

>>1511342
Yeah, you're telling me. I was given a job to basically create these three designs using only red, green and blue. I just worked with what I was given and finished the project. I particularly like the DRUGS one, though.

>>1511363
does this look any better

>>1511265
um the anatomy is definitely not garbage, if his anatomy was tip top perfect with perfect symmetry it wouldnt have the same feeling as it does now
fuck off

>>1511370
I think the problem is that you use too much of one color, you could have balanced out the use of both colors so that its a little more interesting. i like the drawing underneath though

>>1511381
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go and try and color the DRUGS one, but this time how I want to.

imagination doodle
turned out decent i guess. back to studies.

>>1510928
-still need to kinda fill the emptiness behind the trees.
-need to re-do the leaves of the trees entirely. (Still dont know how.)
And the trees itself lack volume perspective aswell. Not sure How I will do this.

Also gonna re-paint the dude, looks kinda weird in those colours.

Anything else you'd like me to fix/change/add ?
Other critique?

>>1511462
other than what you said, which you need to do, looks pretty good

as for rendering leaves, maybe look up some pictures and try to render them? I think it helps to think of them in layers, like there's the really dark ones you hardly see, then they gradually get lighter as they get more outward.

Anyone has a good compilation of poses?
Most stuff in Pixelovely is either boring or I've already drawn it.

>>1511475
do selfies

>>1511462
B..Brobot guy?

>>1511485
I have no idea who 'brobot guy' is. heh.
I go by the name Ycan.

So how do i draw folds? There is no way in hell i will ever figure which brushes to use and correct order of brush strokes here.

>>1511490
Ah, alright. Just askin

I think my face is too long.

Be as brutal as you can.

>>1511501
You expect us to critique what amounts to nothing but a half-assed gesture of a face done in the easiest angle possible?

All we could do to that is a redline but can't you simply overlay it on top of the reference photo and see the parts where you went wrong?

>>1511502
Watch out or else someone will call you an asshole or something.

>>1511502

Asshole.

>>1511502
Well, I was hoping you could tell me how I'm doing as far as shapes, since that's what I'm trying to learn.

>>1511492
there's a tendency to paint the folds rather than painting rather than painting the drapery, which seems to be your problem.

get what i mean? like you have to paint the bulges not the indentations.

>>1511507
FINE. This is how you are doing in shapes.

The head is slightly too narrow compared to the reference. Not a big deal.

Mouth is higher than reference. That's sort of bad, especially if you're going for resemblance.

They eyebrows are in the wrong angle and they don't have the correct shapes.

All in all you're doing good because at least it's shaped like a fucking face and they eyes are in the correct place (very good!), but if you intend this as the portrait of the woman in the photo, you should redo it fixing those parts before you move on. Or you could just edit it on top of the photo though someone could say it's lazy and borderline cheating and a demon will come out of your arse and eat you alive. But you've already seen the shortcomings and hopefully learned something.

Photoshop and transparent layers are hard.

>>1511510
no i don't get what you mean, sorry

>>1511514
Thank you.

>>1511517
try not to think of it as cloth and just paint the shapes you see, think about the spaces in between the shapes and how they relate to each other

this is why drawing is the foundation of painting

>>1511514
Dude, why are you so mad? YOU don't have to help him if you don't want.

Compare his posts to yours, and ask yourself who's the asshole.

>>1511522
And how would i draw what i see. Should i place pixel by pixel to get right gradients? There must be techniques for this because people do this in 5s i can't even blend one stupid fold. This can't be done with default brush either.

>>1511517
damn, i really can't think of another way to explain it.

say you're painting a nose, you draw the structure of the nose and paint the volumes. you don't kinda vaguely fill in the place where the nose is going to be with local color then get down to carefully painting the details of the nostrils.

that's how drapes work too, you paint the big volumes, the structure, the creases and the edge of the folds are detail work.

>>1511533
**
that's how drapes work too, you paint the big volumes, the structure.

the creases and the edge of the folds are detail work.

punctuated for clarity.

>>1511533
I know what you mean about volumes but i don't know how to do it. There are just too many gradients and color changes for me to understand it.I will never guess how to do it.

It's all talking anyway. I wish there were some tutorials or videos for beginners how to do it but it seems there isnt anything there.

>>1511524
Are you okay, friend?

>>1510865

grandpa straight out of herpaderpistan

>>1511543
here is a gif, obviously i suck, but it should show you that you just paint it like anything else. unfortunately there is a bit of a 'draw the fucking owl' step at the end but that's the nature of the beast.

>>1511543
Yeah like you can seen in the above gif, you don't have to worry about gradients and small colour changes until the end. You can work in a smaller range of colours, almost cel-shading style to get the rough shape of things before you start blending away and adding fine detail.

>>1511559
What program did you use to make this? Looks like a real panting almost.

>>1511501
>model's head is angled downwards
>your drawing is straight on

Observe more. Draw the whole head, and not just the face. If you don't know how to fill in the top of the head correctly, then find a different reference where the head isn't cropped.

>>1511645

just regular photoshop, but i did put alot of emphasis on making brushstrokes look oily.

>>1511638
Those last two frames

>How to draw an owl.jpg

Good shit, though.

>>1511654
Thank you.
I will fix the face and head.

>>1511257
>>1511271
Damn, what's with all the cocksucking in this thread? Her neck is way too long and the face is really weird; it has practically no sense of form. Same with the rest of the body; the rendering is decent, but it's not perfect as some of the (probably samefag) posters here are saying. Work on facial construction.

>>1511708
it's kind of a neat picture, if you produce something that people like they'll ignore little errors or even big ones [that 90s comic guy everyone makes fun of now]

>>1511711
The pretty-fucked appearance of her face isn't a "little" error.

>>1511708
here, also, if you're going to try to cover up hands with scribbles because you're scared to draw them, do a whole bunch of practicing/look at your own hands and add those fuckers to it.

>>1511708
There's no cocksucking here. I said that it's not THAT bad. I never said it was GOOD, either. The other guy was talking like it was the worst piece of shit he had ever seen, which it really isn't.

>>1511713
>or even big ones
:p

Just started this... any change to poses?

>>1511728
Why are you working on a pure black background?

It would not be that dark especially considering that there is a giant ball of fire in the middle of it.

>>1511738
The background won't be black I just do it after the characters

>>1511739
You shouldn't do that. Makes it difficult to judge values and colors correctly.

Block in all your major values and colors first before going into any fine detail. Do you have your color thumbs already planned out?

>>1511739
Uh. You should block in all the basic colors before you start rendering. Colors are relative to the colors that surround it. A grey surrounded by blue will look warm, whilst that same grey surrounded by orange will look cool. This is pretty basic stuff, friend.

>>1511728
His left pectoral looks off to me...

>>1511638
Thanks anon i was sleeping i'm going back to drawing now.

>>1511749
Is that the only thing that looks off to you?

>>1511745
>>1511744
im kinda just going at it and it's one of my first tries at photoshop. I'm guessing the color thumbs are all the colors in the picture laid out?

>>1511755
>I'm guessing the color thumbs are all the colors in the picture laid out?

If you're saying what I think you're saying, no.

Color thumbs are super small scale color plans. They're just like comp thumbs.

>>1511195

>>1511761
ooh I see. yea I didn't make one but I could try to sneak one in.

>>1511727
no its a pretty big error that glares you in the face.

Hi.

>>1511456
>doodle
shit man.

>>1511778
Shit.

>>1511785
;~;

>>1511787
Sorry, I'm tired. Still bad doe

>>1511788
What's bad about it? I know I fucked the eyes up, but what else. Criticism is welcome.

>>1511784
Dude, you had to read "fun with pencil" not "fun with the penis".

>>1511792
XDDDDDD

>>1511789
As you said, the eyes are quite bad (You should not outline them like that and the "whites" of the eyes shouldn't actually be colored white). Colors are horrible (Just generally wrong). There's no sense of form. Your shadows are ridiculously purple (that's not how you make the shadows "cool", bro). Values are bad (There's really only a single value for the light area and the shadow is really messy and confusing). Her right shoulder looks fucked to me, along with her hand. And lastly, for now, is that your edges are FUCKED, MATE.

>>1511770
>but I could try to sneak one in.
NO. Thumbnails aren't something you try to sneak in - they are the backbone of all the planning that goes into any and every successful illustration. And you don't make 1, you make several, even 20 if you have to. You should have thumbnails to figure out the composition, gestures, value groups, and color groups. You'd then have find/create suitable references based off your thumbnails. Next comes sketches to refine your best thumbnail. Then comes the actual illustration.

If you're working digitally, you can always increase the size of the thumbnail to create your preliminary sketch, and in turn use that sketch to create your final drawing/painting.

Thumbnails seem like a time sink, but the reality is there are a time and headache saver. They allow you to solve all the logistical problems of the illustration before you waste time rendering/detailing a crappy iteration, then trying to save the crap simply because you already spent time on it.

>>1511796
Yea sounds good, Ill just fiddle around with this some more to get used to photoshop and then keep thumbnails in mind for the next drawing.

update to >>1511728

Here's an idea I had, any way to make it more exciting?

>>1511805
make perspective more dramatic

>>1511638
I made some progress (i think) thanks to you. But now blending and texture being a bitch.

>>1511811
reflected light + saturaded midtones r missing

Currently working on not drawing characters in one dimension, and making them seem more 3D and dynamic.

this character is just one I would design for the No more Heroes series

I gotta work on hands and I'm trying to learn that shading style with black for the hard shadows, I've just used darker versions of the color since now.

I realize the proportions are probably off. I spent so much time earlier in my drawings worrying about those too much. But if they're that bad go ahead and let me know

Thanks in advance guys!

>>1511816
I actually noticed that reflected light. Its really subtle. But what and where are saturated midtones?

>>1511821
Outside of the shadows and before the reflected lights, it looks really playful in the picture. Make a new layer and set to overlay and lower the transparency to 20% and start brushing pink on it :3 I guess? w0t?

>>1511819
I hope you're willing to practice more on your form before you go any further.

>>1511728
>>1511801

>>1511826
I can't see it. How much should it be saturated? More than shadows or more than highlights.

>>1511830
Oh shit I did fuck that arm up.

Do you think if I made the hand poke out of about where the arm is coming out from behind the head now that would fix it? Actually I can redo that sleeve and make it going straight up.

other than that everything looks alright?

>>1511833
It's up to you. Some people like to make it bold, some subtle.

Bulldozer on beach study via watercolor and gouache

I'm just starting out with these water-based paints, so I reckon some practice studies will help me with them.

>>1511834
That may work. I would suggest redoing both arms, but the rest should be fine for now. The face is a bit wonky though as well.

So I accidentally flattened and saved over my layered psd, but whatevs. Anything I should fix within my new boundaries?

>>1511847
Check the perspective on those tits. Also, thighs might be a bit too much.

>>1511847
Wobbly arms and wobbly spear.

I don't think those beams of light across her body are correct. They don't look like they follow the surface of the body correctly.

>>1511852
Not him, but if you look at those beams near the source of incidence, the light beam should look fairly straight. I think it's okay.

>>1511853
I don't think it should bend that much around her left breast and left thigh, considering how straight the beams are when they fall across her skull, her right breast and her abdomen.

Not 100% sure though. I'd need to see a crude 3D mockup or maquette to be fully convinced either way.

>>1511728
>>1511801
>>1511831

took a dark twist

Robert Hope brush kong fu orientet study
>>1510869
uh didn't expect this much of a response I guess I'll have to tidy it up soon

>>1510873
>>1510886
acidenema.tumblr.com
>marry me
uhm

>>1510947
>>1510875
thats damn rad! Kekai and Jaime inspire me greatly, though I wish I could break into my own thing - guess I'll just have to study even more

>>1510902
>>1511100
some OC for a story that'll never happen

>>1511169
You got the materials right, but you do point out the thing that's been torubling me all of this image. I want to show that the metal 'buckle' goes over the cloak and holds it in place. I need to loose it more into the main cloak. I'll figure something out

>>1510897
>BE my teacher!
I don't think I'd be a very good teacher but I could pass on the things I've picked up from various resources - the thing is that it's mostly abstract and I wouldn't be able to just type it all out like mullins did

I guess I could start streaming, if there's interest. Then I could answer questions directly.

>>1511981

You exaggerated her profile, in the original her features are far more "flatter", and give her a sense of beauty. Her head is bigger and more manly in your copy, the latter is caused by your jawline. Otherwise good job, keep on trucking.

>>1511858

lrn2 anatomy

and painting after that

>>1511981
You really got good over a year

is there a cure?

wip

>>1511847
Did a quick paintover. Basically just fixing up some anatomy issues. Also made the bit of light on her show her form more. And made the foreground/shadows darker. I removed some of the texture in the bg, it was distracting in my opinion. Oh, and moved her haid so you can see the silhouette/profile of her face, I think it's a nice touch.

>>1512097
Oh thank you very much! I think she's a bit too skinny now, but I'll defiantly fix most of the anatomy issues.

Anything on the composition itself?

>>1512097
Personally, I think the texture was alright. Kind of a stylistic choice that I think fits with his overall look. It gives a visual 'bite' that I like, and also a more illustrative feel. I still feel that the perspective of the body (read : tits) needs to be kept in check. The colour pallete is appealing, but I think the values on the girl can be made more accurate and pushed just a tiny bit more.

I fucked this one up, badly. I suck at drawing women, and noses. I also gave up on the hair since I don't have a clue what to do with curls. Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong.

>>1512142
And here's the ref if it helps

>>1511638
is that a penis

>>1512142
>Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong.

symbol drawing

>>1511981
what brushes are you using?

>>1512149
How do I avoid this? I used construction, thought of them as 3d forms and tried to model the planes so I don't know why it would still have the impression of symbol drawing.

>Forgot to rotate it last time

>>1512159
>massive jaw
>chin as big as her forehead
You gotta learnt he placement of features, human anatomy and proportions, and how to measure a reference.

>>1512159
That jaw. MY SIDES.

Sorry... but... that jaw.

Yeah, symbol drawing isn't your only problem here. Your proportions need a lot of work too.

>>1512168
>my le sides...... XD

>>1512174
Really? Shitposting on /ic/?
Go back to /vg/ or wherever the hell you came from.

>>1511986
any tips for painting? I was just testing painting, normally am pretty fine with anatomy.

>>1512209
That is a fucking big head.

>>1512159
>I used construction, thought of them as 3d forms and tried to model the planes
Then you didn't do it correctly. I don't see any of your original construction lines, but I'm gonna guess and tell you that there's more to construction than drawing a centerline and an eyeline. Draw the box that contains the head, then build up the head from there.

You're getting distracted by superficial details, like the hair and the individual features. You need to draw the whole head, not just the face and hair. Draw the cranium, then place the hair later. You also aren't drawing any of the features in perspective, nor are things aligned correctly in perspective. Again, the box in perspective should help with all of that. Pic related from teal.

I suggest you take the time to learn your perspective inside out, and how to draw all the basic forms from any angle in perspective. Next, learn how to build complex forms from basic forms. Then study the major forms and proportions of the head, as well as the major forms of the features of the face.

>>1512212
It can be just a short guy

>>1512212
he wasn't too tall man

>>1512220
It's too big even for that.

>>1512234
I think the perspective is putting you off? The angle is not straight on (sitting slightly below) so you might be thinking it is larger than it actually is. The long neck and jawline add to deceiving you. Y'know perspective?

Thoughts?

>>1512266
Color is doing a good job of bringing the front of the head forward. Spread more of it around his face.

>>1512252
whats deceiving you is your ego. proportions are fucked up the ass. then you mention perspective and post an image where you threw all the rules out the window. good work.

>>1512271
Thanks. Will keep that in mind.
>>1512266
Also any thoughts on this?

>>1512280
They are grapes. Unless you're trying to study transparency or light bounce, you probably should study a more complex fruit. But again, it all matters what you're trying to get out of a study. No study is useless.

>>1512272
>proportions are fucked up the ass
I was just saying my painting needs more work than my anatomy. If you really think that model (not the background) has bad perspective you are kind of wacko. I'm not saying it's the best thing ever but clearly I could do for some painting before anatomy.

>>1511181
Could I get a critique on this?

>>1512297
You can do both together at the same time. Your anatomy is fucked, get over it.

Started doing an oil painting after doing digital for a long time.... I don't like how fuzzy it is. Any advice?

^

>>1510865
Any weapon/equipment designers here? What tricks do you use to make it more realistic looking?

>>1512318
Post some of your work? You seem to be barking a lot. Since you can't seem to grasp 10/20minute drawings I'll just put this here for you.

>>1511238
I like the colors. The face looks flat to me though.

>>1512333
Why the hell should the amount of time you worked on it matter?

Can I get some feedback on those?
>>1512071
>>1512072
>>1512073
>>1512077

>>1512329
autist detected.

>>1512218
Thank you for the advice as well as the other anons who replied. The good news is that I'm usually not this terrible and I'm ok at getting the proportions at eye level, I just have problems when there's angles involved. I've never used the box method before and just tried to eyeball the foreshortening which is obviously where I was going wrong. My only question is, how do you incorporate both the Loomis conduction and the box? Do you draw the box first and then draw the ball inside it or the other way round?

>>1512343
Because with time I can fix any anatomy mistakes as opposed to a timed 10 minute drawing. If I really wanted or had to, anatomy won't be a problem if I put the time to work on it. Painting in photoshop on the other hand I just don't know how to do.

>>1512352
>construction*

>>1510865

>>1512329
Use real guns as reference if you don't want them to look like toys.

>>1512329
I think it’s nice, even though it’s too much anime/JRPG-ish. Work on the design.

>>1512350
Elaborate please.

>>1512365
>>1512368
Yeah I went for a far futuristic look, so I didn't use real guns as references. I am influenced by idealistic sci-fi and anime too. I'll try some more gritty designs next time to see how it goes.

>>1512369
Those are not feet.

When should I start learning tones\light\shadows? I looked through all Vilppu, and can(not perfectly, of course), draw a figure using basic forms, but I still can't get the idea of light.

>>1512383
Light and shadows will help you with form. I would try learning them.

Best way is to go find one object in your house, preferably a rectangular object, shine a lamp on it, and do a still-life study.

After that, find another object and place it within the shadow of the first object, and draw that.

>>1512379

2nd best thing in my book.

>>1512143
Shitty redline I did on my phone but hopefully it helps

>>1512352
I like box first, but the box isn't always necessary. It helps a lot with tricky angles though.

Keep in mind that there is no one 'correct' way to construct a head - as long as it's mindful of perspective, accurate forms, and accurate proportions, it will be fine. Many tend to use hybrid constructions from various sources (Loomis, Reilly, Hampton, Vilppu, etc). Do what works for you, experiment with all, and keep an open mind.

>>1512370
Design from an ergonomics standpoint.
Whoever is using it has hands or tentacles or whatever, it should fit in their hands or tentacles or whatever.

>>1512370
>Yeah I went for a far futuristic look, so I didn't use real guns as references. I am influenced by idealistic sci-fi and anime too. I'll try some more gritty designs next time to see how it goes.

The best believable sci-fi designs are based off modern real world equivalents. The artists that can create the best sci-fi designs have spent extensive time studying real designs.

Have a clear function for every part of the gun. Know what it does, and how it does what it does. Link related.

http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/designing-with-reference

>>1512370
No no, I know you're going for the sci-fi look and I don't mean you need to draw real guns only, but instead look at how for example the weapon props in Star Wars were made from modified real firearms.

When people look at a fictional weapon, they will unconsciously compare it in the image they have in their mind of what a gun should look and if it doesn't look like that at all, it will look like a toy to them, not real. (even if realistically it's sensible to expect that future lazer weapons would look nothing like the guns we have now, people's minds just don't work like that)

Look at real guns and incorporate pieces of them in your fantasy weapons so there's something to trigger that "this is a gun" response in people's minds.

>>1512387
You mean copying? I don't know much about lights, highlights, cast shadows etc. Is there any books? There is a book in sticky, James Gurney - Color and light, but I don't know, is it any useful. Anyway, thank you.

>>1512404
It's very useful. But you can do the exercise I gave you because it's very simple. You're just shading a cube, meaning that you'll never see more than 3 sides of it. It's very easy. Studying light will help you more than any book, but take a look at Color and Light by Gurney anyways, as it's probably one of the best books you'll ever find on the subjects. Good luck!

>>1512370
>Yeah I went for a far futuristic look, so I didn't use real guns as references.
Thats one of the stupidest things I've heard. Real gun designers know what they are doing so you should copy them.
Your thing looks like a water gun or something because it's full of pointless curves and sticks. Also the color scheme is stupid.

>>1512416
Not to mention the retarded glowy bits.

I hate it when modern sci-fi artists put that shit everywhere in supposedly military hardware, as if all the militaries in the future suddenly forgot all about stealth and strategy and just decided that disco is cool and hip again.

>>1512416
>>1512400
>>1512394
This is good advice. I'll try again. No glowy shit.

I can't get things to read right.

Which of these do you guys like better?

>>1512432
Half of the background is almost white while the character blends to the darker part. Make the background duller and apply more light to the character.

>>1512473
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>>1512476
I'm dumb, is it an arrow or a Less Than sign?

>>1510865
Drew a friend, she likes it, thats really all that matters to me.

>>1512473
I like the one on the right personally.

Sorry for the shitty phone cam quality. I dont have a scanner..... Also kinda took the pic tilted ... Critique me

>>1512482
she was, without a doubt, being polite

>>1512490
Fuck forgot pic

>>1512473
>

the edge on the left makes you go "wtf" and has a huge impact on your composition

>>1512494
Came out too small n blurry as shit... Fuck life

Help me get this fucker in perspective.
my brain is imploding as I like the mech but then it looks like everything else is fucked up...even tho it's pretty much a thumbnail at this point.

>>1512487
>>1512495
Thanks bros.

Any advice on those?
>>1512071
>>1512072
>>1512073
>>1512077

>>1512497
How about you start with some perspective lines...

More design study.

I wanna add some ducks,but i know jack shit about good composition. Would someone be kind enough to just redline ins some points where little ducks would look good?(in flight, swimming diving etc.)

Doing a study one of my favorite Leonardo paitnings

very very early stages to keep track of progress.

>>1512558
even this rough it looks great and refined.
What movie?

>>1512541
I just made this into a masterpiece.

>>1512562
I chuckled. Draw the duck yourself, or is it clip art?

>>1512561

thanks man, i got it from one of the screen cap archives in the sticky. either the prestige or the dark knight rises? one of nolan's films.

although I'm doing all the measurements/strokes by eye I am still using the color picker. I need to start practicing without it soon.

>>1512574
A quick doodle.

another update

I thought I understood lighting and color so much better than this but It feels like I'm just slapping color on until something looks passable...

I'd like to at least finish it so I can redo it in a year and feel good about myself.

>>1512607
Well you messed up on the proportions and the anatomy too, also he's just floating in space.

>>1512612

I figured as much. I'm still learning but wanted to have a go at actually applying everything to one picture. Not going as well as I'd hoped.

I "know" the anatomy and proportions are wrong, but I can't tell how. Mind pointing it out? I'll do something about the floating in space thing.

>>1512602
holy shit man

>>1512602

How long have you been arting, if you don't mind my asking?

>>1511529
You should follow his advice. I've drawn before painting and I can do folds in the amount of time you are looking to draw them in. The picture is one I drew a while ago.

>>1511543
Too many? Just use what you think looks necessary and looks correct according to the type of fabric, folds and color and light. I guess to some it comes naturally and some need more study. I usually observe the colors and gradients I would see in real life, study it and play with it. I would post a tutorial if I had one but I'm on mobile. Picture not really related to a tutorial

>>1511638
It's not that bad tbh

>>1511811
See now that's way better than before

did some loomis from imagination and then tried to draw the skulls under each

not really sure what to make of it

>>1512473
..... you can't just switch the horizon line. the horizon line has always been there from when you started drawing. Where the hell is it suupposed to be? To me it looks more like the one on the right would be more correct.
You don't have to follow the rules but you better have a good reason for breaking them.

>BE my teacher!
>>1511981
Hm. I guess. I tried teaching aswell (fundamentals). Its not that easy.
I get along 'ok' myself now after a year of selfstudy. The thing I struggle with the most atm is how to make paintings look alive with good and thoughtful brushwork.

I cant into that myself however.
Do you have any ressources where you learned that? Or did you just have to practice that a long time aswell?

Quite a late responds, hope you are still around.

>>1512654
not bad but you need to work on necks and how they connect. top right is mucho retardo.

>>1512664
yeahh i kinda notice that now after posting, woops. i should probably look into that

>>1512654
hehe looks great! Especially if that is from imagination.
The skulls are extremly cute looking. Dont know why. lol

WIP
Just a study, any critique would be great. I'm not very good at doing hair so any critique on that would be appreciated too.

>>1512497
update

>>1512674
It still has some perspective errors.
You know how to construct perspective?
If so, please look over it before continuing or it will turn out goofy.

I'd help with an overpaint, but its 4am here. jesus.
Ill do that 'later', when I wake up maybe.
Good luck.

>>1512142
Looks like jim morrison

>>1512675
Yeah Im a total noob at enviros and perspective alltogether.As well as mechs.Hence why the generic design.But as I said earlier I wanna make everything correct before I start figuring out the design n shit..Appreciate the efford tho.

Not a very good picture, and it isn't finished, but it's Kaylee from Firefly. I'm starting to do portraits.

I do things like this too.

>>1510865
man I'm glad I found this place.

totally new here guys.
here's something i did for a metro ll contest.
tell me what you think.
It ain't perfect i know. be gentle.
I've only just got into the whole digital art thing. i've only had paper and pencil my whole life.

>>1510865

>>1512754
add more highlights, everythig is just dark black right now, which might be what youre going for, but it lacks drama and contrast. The moon should shine down and give alot more light

>>1512758
I know man ;_;
I might go back and rework it.
I only had an afternoon to make it.
The contest closed early so i freaked a wee bit

>>1512630
:o
>>1512633
I don't really art that often but I sit and look at things all the time. I've been meaning to dedicate the month of august to deliberate daily practicing so we'll see where that goes.

also last update. I got too caught up in the details (as usual) and missed some pretty critical generalizations of the form of his head. I'm going to start the next one with a drawing instead of a painting for more accuracy.

anyone know any good films to screen cap?

>>1512776
chinatown
barry lyndon
lawrence of arabia
capote
180 south
nova australia
a single man.
greg hunt has some preety good stuff
idk any film you like really. good job so far

>>1512543
dem hair like waves man. Add some colors to them

>>1512756
mfw people actually try to spam this slow ass board full of fags who just sits in threads and draw

>>1512541
swans man, fuck ducks, swans

>>1512776
>anyone know any good films to screen cap?

Brace for some obvious.

Blade Runner
>obvious
Drive
>great colour and comps
Only God Forgives
>even more colour
Heat
>personal favourite, pic related, probably biased
Alien
>fucking Alien; some especially great comps
The Fountain
>some more interesting colour, from what I remember
The Grey
>always loved the visual aesthetic to this one
Memories of Murder
>another personal favourite

>>1512776
The Tree Of Life

>>1512794
you should probably clean it up before asking for critique

>>1512793
>>1512788
>>1512781

thanks everyone!

>>1512776
The film Orlando is very, very paint-worthy. Definitely some very underrated cinematography.

May also want to check out Barry Lyndon, as each shot is made to look like paintings from the era it takes place in.

>>1512836
mission accepted

>>1512870
Fuck yeah man. Try finding the movie, there are so many damn good shots in it.

A quick compositional sketch. I'll paint it tomorrow.

A quick compositional sketch. I'll paint it tomorrow.

>>1512894
arms are allll fucked up

>>1512904
gah, figured. This any better?

>>1512918
not the same op, but yes. Next time if you sense something is wrong, it probably is, so fix it right away lol

>>1512930
It's 3AM, I've been drawing on insomnia. I did >>1512473 as well, so that probably tells me it's time for bed if I'm suddenly deciding to magically move the horizon line.

>>1512934
her bicep is a lso a little bit weird loll. Also, I like the composition for the left better, but that skyline is kind of weird. Either extend the sky more, or fix it somehow

Progress pic

>>1512944
Like this you mean?

>>1512957
save as png

>>1512958
Cool, looking better. Maybe try changing the spear position? Also, I'm not a fan of the horizon line curving like that. And thinking about it, I'm pretty sure the little lines of light between the shadows would all converge to the vanishing point. I think...haha!

>>1512968
Thanks man. I'll try working this all in.

>>1512957
Try to work the whole image more instead of rendering in spots. Also try to paint a bit more opaquely if you can.

>>1512218
Who is the incredible anon that makes these redlines? Do they have a portfolio or something?
>those eyes

>>1512975

pretty sure that's teal.

he is our resident god of the redlines. i don't think he posts anymore though, but everyone has his old stuff saved and posts it every now and then

>>1512964
will do

>>1512973
Was the opaque comment sarcastic? I'm a bit over tipsy from all this wine while drawing so I can't tell if that was a jab at the overly opaque rough draft.

>>1512982
Uhm, there's nothing opaque about your painting. It's all transparently painted, and it leaves shitty marks where the strokes overlap--this leads to dirty values and ambiguous shapes.

>>1512983
Wow sorry I totally got opaque and transparent mixed up

>>1512983
Also this is my second drawing on photoshop. What is the best way to blend solid colours? I've just been using default brush with changes to opacity which is probably why it ends up like that.

>>1512981
>i don't think he posts anymore
What are you talking about?
>>1511995

some more imagination loomis junk
better do more extreme poses from reference.

>>1512993
Use big brushes to block in, then set your brush to 20-30% and use the alt key to switch back and forth between different values.

Using an oval brush at an angle is good at blending.

>>1513002
>Use big brushes to block in, then set your brush to 20-30%
I've been doing this when I go into detail.

>Using an oval brush at an angle is good at blending.
I can't seem to find it :(

another progress pic (png this time!)

>>1512997
i know you're not concentrating on the neck but they're all too long, so it might be something you want to watch out for, it's a pretty common mistake too, at least you have some trapezius in there. keep up the grind.

anatomy critique please

>>1513007
you just use the round brush and squish it into an oval using the 'roundness' slider it the brush panel

>>1513010
ah I see. Done for the night though. Thanks for all the help :)

o..ok

>>1512785
Ducks are easier though, cause the brown ccan be a ery large range of values and still look natural, painting a large white object and having its values look natural in the piece is a bit harder.
I'm thinking maybe two intersecting arcs, in golden ration to one another, one containing a few ducks in water, the other containing ducks in flight.

But if anyone actually knows something about composition, I'd love some input.

>>1513036
Looks like I typed that with my face.

still work in progress. but I might need some help with anatomy. Its my first time drawing more than a portrait without copying from a photo or real life. I went through the first chapter of Loomis figure drawing book but I still feel really insecure about it. So critique maybe?

Working on this thing

>>1512776
Looks amazing! What brushes have you been using ? I ve been looking for the one around the beard for a long time.

>>1512071
Dem symbol eyes

>>1512492
I know she was, I would redo it but she might be wondering why I am drawing tons of pictures of her

Any tips on adding value to hair/skin?

New thread here

>>1513543

>>1511845
Sorry just re found this thread wonky in what sense? I'm looking at it and maybe the eyes are level for the angle the face is at? and maybe I should turn the nose a bit?

>>1512209
C'mon everyone. That's the typical mistake made by us newbies at life drawing. Starting big and later finding out, you don't get it all on the paper. So from now on - define the whole shape first, before going into the dark blacks..