/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

They have parents with great marketing skills.

>>1495534
"Art critics have noted Andre's work, classified as abstract expressionism, for its employment of the Surrealist techniques automatism and accidentalism.[6][11] She paints with acrylics and often adds three-dimensional objects, including bark, twigs, and feathers, to the canvases.[8] Buyers of her art at her New York show commented favourably on the paintings' simplicity and richness in texture. A number of major news sources, including Time, the BBC, The Washington Post, the The Sydney Morning Herald, ABC News, and the New York Post, have generally responded favourably to Andre's work and to her early success. Several of them have compared her to Jackson Pollock, Salvador Dalí, and Pablo Picasso."


I don't even think highly of Picasso, but he's still better than this garbage.

>>1495531
if i recall correctly her mother knew a gallery owner who she basically tricked into hanging her daughters work without even seeing it, and then he has to sell it or he would of looked like an idiot, so he finds some idiots to sell it to, then the light press picks the story up and you wet your madjamas about it.

sort of like basquiat :p

AI was basically about a return to primal expression so that's not particularly surprising

I hope she grows up and gets some serious training, it'd be shitty to have that success go to your head and ruin her talent by turning into Hirst or some shit.

I'm getting damn tired of all these child "prodigies".

>>1495542
>>1495542

A lot of her pieces are really, really messy and underdeveloped but I do quite like this one. If she's doing all of this by herself with no guidance then it's really quite impressive.

This is the epitome of all of the bad aspects of "modern" or "contemporary" art. Modern art became art about art, where as historically art has been about life.

When a work lacks real skill in it's making, the only ways the artist can get away with it are be either having a great idea behind the work, shocking us, or awing us. Unfortunately the latter two usually don't last and we all know great ideas are hard to come by.

Not this shit AGAIN.

Do you people realize how many times we've had this EXACT SAME FUCKING THREAD ABOUT THIS EXACT SAME INDIVIDUAL?

It's fucking troll bait bullshit and imo definitely constituted trolling so get fucked OP and anybody who's dumb enough to bump this shit.

I MAD. FUCK.

>>1495539
>I don't even think highly of Picasso

why?

>>1495554

That's something that's really interesting to me about this - obviously this kid isn't intellectually developed enough to be able to come up with any sort of conceptual framework for her work or arrive at these techniques through studying art history, which basically means she picked up on the modes of composition and paint application / collage from her parents; i.e., it's purely imitation - this isn't more remarkable than a kid raised by musician parents picking up the ability to play well, but it's still fascinating how easily this kid has picked up the visual language they're using.

>>1495547
yeah but does she even know what the fuck shes doing. I think a huge part of contemporary art is the preemptive message the artist try to portray onto his art, and how well the audience receive it. The message serve as the most important part of art. What the fuck would a 5 years old do that's meaningful? It ends up being all the audience rationalizing shit like "oh i see a galaxy in her paitning lolol"

white people

>>1495555
I was unaware of that. This was only recently brought to my attention. Also, quads.

>>1495556
When I see most of his pieces, I see overcomplicated stick figures. He does have some appreciable work, but to me, the majority is unimpressive.

>>1495559
That's more conceptual art, not contemporary art. You can say that conceptualism is popular in Contemporary art. Regardless, she's merely a marketing scam and a kid playing with a lot of shit most kids don't get, and in any case it's more like abstract expressionism which is usually the antithesis of meaning, and all about process and raw energy/emotion/aesthetic.

P.S. please don't bump this piece of shit thread.

>>1495560
Yeah, all having a two-parent family and providing a safe and happy home. What's wrong with those crazy crackers?

>>1495555
it's mainly about that christian girl..anyway this girl isn't overly respected they only sell for like $4000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2009/jan/26/art-australia

Anyway its only a novelty because she is a kid, thats all.

>>1495559
see
>>1495557

>>1495561
it was revolutionary at the time. fucking with perspective and space like that becomes...less impressive if you don't consider the cultural context.

>>1495563
>>/pol/

It also noted that although her 2009 exhibition in Melbourne was not at a vanity gallery, the Agora Gallery's pay-for-show operation may undermine the legitimacy of her recent international fame.

>>1495560

^

>>1495567
yeah but still, art with an intended message is just pretty paint on canvas, and the rationalization of a bunch of clueless people

>>1495569
gallery shouldnt suggest the legitimacy of something lol. I worked at the SFMOMA, and atleast here, curating shows that brings in public attention is one of the higher priority.

>>1495576
>just pretty paint on canvas
yup! nevertheless, she does have some degree of skill in arranging compositions and handling media, and i'd be curious to see what works she produces as a mature artist.

>>1495561
>When I see most of his pieces, I see overcomplicated stick figures. He does have some appreciable work, but to me, the majority is unimpressive.

You seem very much like every person who erroneously thinks they know what Picasso did. He did a massive amount of work, of which I'm sure you've actually seen little. In fact, he was likely the most prodigious artist of all time, and worked in a great many modes. You could study him for years and not come to grips with all of it. I did once think like you, but luckily earnest immersion washed away all of the cultural gunk and otherwise skewed perceptions.

>>1495576
but it's pay for show, that means if you give them money they will hang it, i don't know how that isn't a vanity gallery though, i guess they have some kind of curatory disgression

>being jealous of a 5 year old
>making this fucking thread again
fuck you

>>1495595
Oh I was referring to the Melbourne exhibit

>>1495595
>disgression

>>1495531
here's a documentary about another little girl painter if you want to foster your rage http://vimeo.com/6515653 the documentary is even shot in an annoying way for bonus rage points.

>>1495617
Nothing fosters my rage like the repeated bumping of this thread. That's all the rage really need, tbh.

>>1495619
k

I like it.

>>1495617
So, I watched it. Her dad did the paintings, hands down. Those two which they filmed were so different. I think maybe the mom didn't know and was being manipulated too. Or I was blinded by her beauty. That gallery owner was such a dick face.

>She LITERALLY smears shit on to a canvas and then throws things in.

Wait, you mean like actual feces? When you use "literally" in this context it's genuinely difficult to tell, because, well, art.

>>1495756
He capitalized it for a reason, anon.

*mixes palette of shit*

>>1495531
Old news bro. Wasn't she the one whose father paid a shitload of money to shoot a video of her "painting".

>>1495841
Found it. Jewtube watch?v=ccPoUrLv4wo

>>1495534
They must be Jews.

>>1495559
Exactly.

Essentially, she took a cavas, painted it black, splatter painted red and blue to each side of the canvas, threw some confetti on the red and blue, and then taped on a toy horse on the red side.

Guys, it's a deeper symbolic message of how Democrats and Republicans are split and tear this nation apart. It's got a lot of political innuendo. The horse is actually symbolic of the Democrat's Donkey, but the redness of it, is symbolic for the Republican influence.

She wants America to have more unity. In a world where political parties tear us apart, children drop their icecream, and people are forced to choose between what name brand clothing item to buy, we must stand together.

Or, she just threw random things onto the canvas in an arbitrary manner.

I don't think she's that bad.
It is good for her to have an artistic interest at this young age, and supporting parents too.

>>1495531
So what?
It doesnt fucking mater.

>>1495981
Yeah, that part of it is cool. I'm just really disappointed in all of the people that think its super deep, interesting modern art.

Its like the documentary about that guy who created a huge art show with a bunch of art pieces he cranked out by the hundreds and made millions selling them solely based on the hype train he built about the show.

Just another case of people being retarded and gullible when it comes to art.

>>1495995
She's clearly gonna grow up to be a smug, a cocky "artists" that no one can question, throwing her humbleness away at such a young age is /bad/ parenting.

>>1496130
I too disagree with the "prodigy" title and there is a chance that her parents might be taking advantage of the situation, but still, she isn't that bad, I believe everyone (except me, of course) can make art and I believe on art's significance and importance to the human being.
It is still good that she is interested in art though, not many people start this early, or get support from their parents.
I was never too interested in drawing or colouring pictures in my childhood.

>>1496130
this
by the time shes thirty no-ones going to care about her

her whole prodigy title will be drowned under having no creativity and being completely juiced up while also having no selfawarness and being sadly self obsessed

it happened with every child prodigy.

>>1496267
Mozart

>>1496267
unless she mantains an interests and makes something cool

>>1496269
Mozart wasnt praised to shit at 5 years of age. also he died early an alcoholic.

>>1496276
Yes he was

>>1496278
he was praised majorly when he was 10+
plus it was due to daily practice and experience

he still died early an alcoholic.

also, are you seriously comparing the 'next jackson pollock' to mozart? i bet they are both turning in their graves so fast they could power a couple cities.

>>1496285
You said prodigies he was a prodigy, he began touring at 6

i just feel sorry for her. she had a genuine drive and passion to be creative, her parents are destroying any future chance she might have had to become really really good and respected.

ontop of that all the psychological implications of being like a prodigy in your youngest (most formative) years.

>>1496303
You're right.

>>1496303
this.

another whored out child. shell drown.

>>1495580
There's a reason why he's remembered for the "overcomplicated stick figures": evertything else he did was mediocre as shit. Both of your pictures included.

>>1496383
You can say medicore to almost any work of art.

>>1496383
The overcomplicated stick figures comment doesn't even make sense, nor does the "mediocre shit" comment. Picasso stood out because he was anything but mediocre. He was famous for most of his career, and famous for a great number of things. Just because some ignorant people know him only for some things (which largely came from the last quarter of his career, when he'd already been famous a long time) doesn't mean much. He had a massive effect on art, as well as things like illustration, cartooning, industrial design, and so on.

do you guys hate yourself so much that you have to come here and shit on a 5 year old?

>>1496658
>do you guys hate yourself so much that you have to come here and shit on a 5 year old?

I couldn't find a good babysitting gig.

i make painting too

>>1499372
Babyshitting is close enough, r-right?

>>1495981
>>1495547
Why do you guys care about symbolism so much? If it's pleasing to the eye, doesn't it succeed as art? How is that any less valid?

>>1495547
I don't see how the artists age adds to the value of his or her works. It's the art that should be impressive, not the artist

I feel like people are too quick to coddle children and call them "prodigies" for doing things that would be considered pretty mediocre if they were older.
I don't even want to look at this kid's work because I know the fact that she's 5 years old would stick more than the actual value behind the painting and what I would think if she was, say, 40 instead would be completely different.

>>1496267
would you give me names?
I'm interested of such "prodigies" that failed later.

>>1495531
Couldn't give a shit. As soon as she was branded a prodigy her career was doomed like all the others.

>>1500738
>like all the others.
Mozart.