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PAINTING THREAD

I noticed there's a thread for drawing and sketchbook, which pretty much also constitutes as digital art threads. With that, why not a (non-digital; traditional) painting thread?

With that said... current WIP (via oil paint)

>> No.1487690

>>1487680
nice!
hmm shouldn't the buildings come closer together as they go higher because they converge at an infinitely small point?

>> No.1487694

Love the heavy use of blue
Reminds me of the city perfectly

>> No.1487905

The red as a warm color consumes the whole picture.

Balance the cool and warm more....make the eyes travel with detail and lack of it.

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1488046

Its not very good ( ma dog) but I like the idea of a painting thread.

>> No.1488049

this belongs in the sketchbook thread. the delineation is drawthread digital sketchbook thread trad

your welcome newfaggots

>> No.1488066

>>1488049
Thanks for being the police of ic, you little snowflake.

>> No.1488070

>>1487680
Nice colors, it looks like it has potential! But I feel the girl with the red umbrella should have been a lil' further to the left, there's a hint of a tangent there... Perhaps you can separate her a bit from the central building by painting over that little redness seen at her forehead.

>> No.1488071

>>1488049
Um... the title "sketchbook thread" kinda speaks for it self on that matter...

And why wouldn't we want another nice productive thread? Sure beats the usual tablet-threads and "What's this style called"-threads!

>> No.1488118

>>1488049
No.

Traditional paintings don't fall under those categories. It's better to have all these paintings here than have them be posted in individual threads or be lost in those sketch/drawing threads.

>> No.1488185

>>1488071
Lurk more newfaggot and shut up when the adults are talking

>>1488118
Yes. see above

>> No.1488207

>>1488049
>your welcome newfaggots

My welcome newfaggots?

>> No.1488216
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1488216

First painting I ever did (~6 months ago). Made some heads (muh loomis) to see how I'd fare with oils. It's pretty green, and my sister said she loves the color (didn't say anything about the malformed heads 'tho). Was fun, and I learned a ton from it.

Sorry for the bad photo, lightning in my living room sucks, and phone isn't the best camera.

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Oil painting I made as a gift last year

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1488255

been touching this up for a while, calling it done.

>> No.1488280

How do I learn how to paint? Are brushes important? What type of paint should I use? I was planning on using oils but I hear they take ages to dry

>> No.1488297

>>1488280
Brushes are semi-important, but you should have somewhat decent ones. You should use high-pigment paint, but for starting you could get medium quality to practice. Low quality means low pigment, which means you're never going to get the colour you want.
I'd say start with acrylics, since there's a lot of wooly business with oil. They're easier to work with (For me at least.) and they dry quickly. (I don't own patience.)

Start medium qual., move onto high qual. if you want to pursue it further.
There are a lot of videos on YT about mixing paint and painting. You just go with the flow, and do what feels right. Don't be hindered with following lines, or staying inside of lines - everything can be painted over. (for motivation, watch Bob Ross) There are only happy accidents.
There's probably a lot more to add, but here are my 2 cents.

>> No.1488298

Someone know what I can do with the eyes? I started out wanting them black, but i'm not so sure anymore.
I'm unsure about the lips, and jewelry. I don't know what the fuck I did to the torso.

Any ideas?

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>>1488255
same guy

another study I just started


>>1487680
Love the OP painting

>>1488216
This is a pretty cool idea, would look a lot better with a bit color in there though,

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a study for an idea i ended up abandoning. the sky is actually much darker, just a bad pic.

oil on arches oil paper.

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>>1488298
ah fuck

>> No.1488317

>>1488314
they actuall look pretty bad ass red like that, just make them look like eyeballs

>> No.1488318

>>1488314
maybe a dark purple too

>> No.1488319

>>1488314
throw in some yellow and orange? Are they suppose to be all one color with no pupils?

>> No.1488322
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This is something I did earlier this year. I was pretty pleased with it until I looked at it too much and got sick of it.

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Latest Watercolour Portrait.

>> No.1488326

>>1488322
What am I looking at? the texture is ok, I like the orange, but don't over whelm the frame with that much orange again. Have some more complimentary colors next time

>> No.1488335

>>1488317
Then I wonder if I have to do something with the background. I was thinking greyish blue.. But I don't know.

>>1488318
Yeah, purple would be great. I just need to find my proper blue and I'll add that in.

>>1488319
Yeah, they won't have pupils or iris.

>> No.1488339

>>1488322
work woth dark values and off-gray tones. Dark yellows and reds are good for shadow zones.

>> No.1488361

>>1488311

taking a break, thoughts so far?

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>>1488361
damn it

>> No.1488368

>>1488364
Looks nice, what mix did you use for the hole in the forehead?

>> No.1488372

>>1488368
Thanks, thats ultramarine blue and burnt umber

>> No.1488375

>>1488372
I see, im looking for a dark mix that will turn into a dark reddish-brown, im thinking of crimson+some kind of green right now, but im not sure yet.

>> No.1488376

>>1488364
not bad, I like that you chose alot of mellow colors. how many paintings have you done?

>> No.1488381

>>1488376

About 4 or 5 but the first few were a mess. Don't really like any of them except the two I posted in this thread. at least each one has taught me something though.

>>1488375
You know what that would have made more sense for me to use with my palette as well, I just kinda went for the default black I knew how to make. I'll give a crimson black a try too.

>> No.1488384

>>1488381
Well look at it this way...you've done 4 or 5 of them. You're on your way to getting better man, keep it up

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1488425

janitors unfairly disabled bumping on my thread, so i am posting here.
i have attention deficit. i need more attention!!
my new painting deserves some feedback
thanks

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>>1488425
You are getting good Chunbum. Keep up the style but evolve. you are on to something

>> No.1488433

>>1488425
you dont really want critique. plus you look like a loser korean on your blog hehe

no but rly, what do you think you are achieving with this "spilt lego brick" style?

>> No.1488442
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>>1488425
If you aren't here for critique there's no reason for your thread to be bumped.

>> No.1488447 [DELETED] 

>>1488442
this is obviously misrepresentation/straw man argument because the board is ARTWORK/critique, not artwork critique. There are people who post and don't care to read any of the critiques offered, and they get by without problem. They are free to do whatever they want. They didn't break a single rule by being that way. But in my case, just because you dislike me or my style you gotta make up a reason to deprive me of space to share my work. And just like how you lacked substance in your attack listing of all the crimes I've committed, you lack all legitimate reasons to justify your unfair treatment of me. You absolutely have no good way to justify what you are doing to me. This is not a fair game. Not fair at all. Cowards.

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1488448

>>1488425
>i need more attention

There, we saw it, now please leave

>> No.1488449 [DELETED] 

>>1488442
also, I AM here for critique. But here's the catch. I won't accept every single nonsense thrown at me like "you've got no idea what you are doing"

>> No.1488450

>>1488425
It has no style

>> No.1488451

>>1488425
Chunbum; I'd advise you study color and Franz Marc.

The significance of your color (for personal reasons could help this piece)

In addition for the kind remark on my facebook page here's a few artists I think would suit your tastes:

Darina Karpov
Philip Barlow
Erik Jones
Tim Biskup

You may want to switch to acyrlics or ink for a "purer" and more lightfast (brighter and more intense) color.

>> No.1488453

>>1488449
You've gotten good critique before and you don't ever accept it.

>> No.1488452

>>1488447
This is /ic/ not /attentionwhoring/ thanks bub goodbye

>> No.1488456

>>1488447
Read the fucking rules.
>1. User-created artwork is submitted for critique, and visual art is discussed. Do not claim authorship of works you did not create.
>User-created artwork is submitted for critique
>submitted for critique
If you aren't posting art for critique, you are breaking the rules. Period.
>>1488453
This. Repeatedly gotten good critique, and always shot it down.

>> No.1488462 [DELETED] 

>>1488451
thank you.
I have acrylic in south korea, so I will try using that again once i return.
What is the significance of your color?
Sorry I am kinda slow and I don't get a lot of things people say.
>>1488456
I am always here for critique. But I don't accept bad critiques.
For example, "Woman Combing Her Hair" has "incorrect" facial anatomy. But it is drawn like that for artistic purpose.
You guys can keep on shouting "wrong anatomy" and ridicule me about my lack of ability and knowledge, but I will reject it flat down. Derp.

>> No.1488464

>>1488462
>But it is drawn like that for artistic purpose.
No it's not. You are INCAPABLE of drawing a face correctly. You've repeatedly shown that - hell, when you first showed up here, you said knowing anatomy would only limit you.

That's called NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE DOING.

And you can say "artistic purpose" until your face turns blue and your dick falls off, but bad looking faces will ruin a composition faster than just about anything, so your excuses only hurt yourself.

I have a better idea, why don't you fuck off altogether.

>> No.1488466

Show us that you know your fundamentals. Show us a drawing that proves you know proper anatomy and therefore can make stylistic choices. Because until then you're just a bad artist that doesn't know anatomy and passes it off as style.

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>>1488466
Here is one i did in foundation
My professor looking at my 2 minute gesture drawings said once i get lighting right i would be "golden"

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>>1488464
I do know how to draw a face correctly, if i want

>> No.1488474

>>1488469
Oh my god.
Your professor obviously knows criitique is useless with you.
And that drawing doesn't even include a face.

>> No.1488476
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1488476

Most recent painting I've finished. Done for a local Conventions raffle.

>> No.1488479

>>1488473
i like this a lot, chunbum. intelligibility is important but i dont think youd agree right now. and since your recent works are unsuccessful, why not switch gears? dont be stubborn

>> No.1488480

>>1488462
Ok Picasso, if you don't want our advice then please go somewhere else because you aren't taking anything that would 'help' your painting. You just want to be an attention whore, so get the fuck out

>> No.1488484

>>1488476
>Ponies

Really man?

>> No.1488482 [DELETED] 

>>1488480
no it's not me who should leave. it's you who should shut up and leave people like Spiderman to occupy this thread with good constructive critiques.

>> No.1488483

>>1487680
sorry op but
Chunbum Park
Ruined your thread

>> No.1488487

>>1488482
Dude, your color is all over the place, there is no where to concentrate, it looks like you just got whatever paints you had and put them on the canvas. You CAN study Keith Haring if you want expressionist style lines or go with some Basquit. But this painting is not one you should display. It's not very well thought out and not very well put together at all.

There's your fucking critique

>> No.1488493 [DELETED] 

>>1488487
thanks for the critique, which despite being rude in the end introduced me to artist i didnt know about.
i want to just say we have disagreement about the colors. i think color is the final frontier. there are only 6 colors in the universe - red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple. i gotta use all of them together to balance, neutralize, and create areas of climax.

>> No.1488496

>>1488484
I do other things. This is just what's in right now.

>> No.1488497
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>>1488447
Hello, Chunbum. I wrote half of the rules for /ic/. Early this year I rewrote rule #1 with Moot. It's imperative to keep the rules brief and allow common sense to reign. The rules should not be dense legalese. Nevertheless, it seems you could use some clarification.

1. /ic/ is a drawing board, and is listed as such in the main index. It is primarily for people working on drawing.
2. The board was originally, and for most of its life, intended ONLY FOR ARTWORK CRITIQUE. It was always called Artwork/Critique, because it was for the critique of artwork. This is an objective fact.
3. Early this year rule #1 was reworded for these reasons:
a. To make it clear that painting and sculpture are allowed in addition to drawing.
b. To make it clear that discussion of art techniques and artwork in general is now officially permitted. This means you could begin a thread about something like hatching or about an artist like Titian, etc..
This is the ONLY reason the rules were re-worded. When posting your own artwork, it is assumed that you will receive critique. This board is under no circumstances intended to be used as a gallery for your personal work. You may critique, post your own work for critique, discuss technique, or discuss other artists and the art world.

Again, common sense is the name of the game.

>> No.1488500

>>1488496
....sell out....

naw jk man

>>1488493

If you do, don't do try to make a portrait or make them that thick

>> No.1488501

>>1488476
Hmm I can't figure out what the meaning or the message is behind this work. It looks like michaelangelo's famous work The creation of Adam (i had to look it up) that's obvious.
I like how you captured the bright atmospheric quality of the original painting by using bright sky blue and bright light yellow.
the brushwork on the clouds is very nice.
but the area where the clouds end should represent a rocky formation on earth, not part of the sky. this is the most significant error that could be easily fixed. hope this helps.
>>1488497
I understand. I am here for critique anyways.

>> No.1488502

>>1488497
This 'art discussion' clause has unleashed all sorts of horrific unchecked cancers like the /soc/ and tumbler threads

you should feel proud

>> No.1488505

>>1488501
>but the area where the clouds end should represent a rocky formation on earth, not part of the sky. this is the most significant error that could be easily fixed. hope this helps


Or I just did it that way to make it look like my own work.

Cuz .. you know... that's a thing.


>>1488500
>....sell out....

>naw jk man

Feels like it sometimes, but you go where the green is.

>> No.1488507

>>1488505
If it was the 1920's it would be a different story, but we are in the 21st century and the economy sucks balls. You are forgiven bro. The texture for the rocks is amazing by the way

>> No.1488509

>>1488507

Yeah. I look back to the earlier part of 2000 and realized how much money and cheap energy I wasted. Should have been out promoting and arting my balls off.

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>>1488502
You must be aware that general art discussion was already commonplace and a deeply-ingrained part of the board.

You can't make everyone happy. Maybe you'll be more appreciative of a rule like #3, concerning requests for free work.

Have a lovely evening.

>> No.1488513

>>1488510
why is rule 2 never enforce?

>> No.1488521

>>1488513
This, indeed. All that happens is they get called out on it and get a long post about critique, but they never get banned or warned.

>> No.1488525
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>>1488513
I should make clear that I am not a janitor for /ic/ and play no role in deleting posts/threads.

Rule #2 is enforced, perhaps sporadically. Whether or not a post has crossed a line can be a subjective thing. A particularly offensive post is more likely to be deleted if reported, but clearly none of us want heavy-handed moderation. Everything is relative. It's important to look at all of this through the prism of 4chan culture and the subcultures of individual boards.

>> No.1488527

>>1488510
since you are obviously female I won't waste any more time attempting to discuss this logically with you.

>> No.1488531 [DELETED] 

>>1488525
Yeah the janitor seems pretty hands-off as far as #2 goes. I don't think that's a bad thing though, I can see how it might be considered a slippery slope to start arbitrarily policing the niceness of posts, especially when being insensitive is tradition on /ic/.

What I have seen being enforced more is the underage rule. Those inquiry threads about the artists on /ic/ are probably a honeypot for them to snipe the underage b&.

>> No.1488554
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1488554

Self portrait oil painting from last year that I never finished. I got stuck on what to do next for this one, and somehow, moved on to something else

>> No.1488564

>>1488554
You look unbelievably tense

>> No.1488565
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>>1488564
Not a fun time in my life at the time. This is the preliminary sketch I did for it

>> No.1488570

>>1488527
I'm not female, and an ad hominem comment under the guise of an appeal to logic seems a tad ironic.

I understand that you hold a different opinion of how the board should function, and I won't say that you're wrong, but users shape the board, which results in a critique board with a side of general discussion on technique and art in general. This has little or nothing to do with the wording of the rules.

One thing which may give you some relief is that the term "visual art" was added in order to address issues regarding the posting of poetry, film, music, and conceptual art (i.e. Kim Kardashian's life as art) which is far removed from the visual art that is the bread and butter of the board.

In the end, the best way to skew the board toward your ideal is to post in a manner which projects that ideal in a positive manner. I, for one, will always support you in that.

>> No.1488571

>>1488570
You sure whine like a woman.

Are you that guy that shitted up that thread with how they thought line art should be?

>> No.1488574

>>1488554
>>1488565
Sketch is stronger cause of that 1000-yard stare you're giving me

>> No.1488575

>>1488574
>>1488565
Also, you think you could go out of your way to scan this? I have taken a liking to it

>> No.1488576

>>1488571
Strange definition of whining, imo. I did not post in the line art thread.

>> No.1488578

I feel like bickering like this^ that bloats up threads should become a bannable offense on this board, soon

>> No.1488580

>>1488576

It was a Thread about shitty artits and one of the posters went on a rant about things he hated. Most were understandable. But then he said something about people that 'scratch' should give up art all together.

We told him he was dumb and he lost his spaghetti all over the place.

>> No.1488582 [DELETED] 

>>1488578
Yes, but it's a fact of life on 4chan/internet. You can't ban (and enforce bans) on everything.

>> No.1488584

>>1488578
I got fucking banned for 3 days that someone else started

>> No.1488597

Ladies and gentleman, please keep the meta stuff to /q/. /ic/ is strictly for art-related discussion.

>> No.1488716 [DELETED] 

>>1488570
The ad homenim was a reply to your ridiculous referral to rule 3. As the other anon said in regards to your sex; if it walks like a duck...
Only a bitch would call her mod pal for help.You are board killing cancer. Be proud.

>> No.1488769

Truly a shame when idiots who don't know the board mechanics make policy.

have fun killing /ic/ cunts

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1489166

Getting back into topic...

Abstract, impasto-heavy painting. I haven't really focused on being an abstract artist that much, but this is one of the paintings that somehow been getting way more good attention that I thought it would get IRL.

>> No.1489238

>>1488769
>The sky is falling!

Easy, champ.

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1489462

I wanted to do a snowy scene this time.

>> No.1490654

Discussion:
A: What palette colors do you guys use? Do you use premixes or pure primaries?
B: How often do you paint? How many finished works do you produce per week/month/year?
C: How did you learn to paint? Self taught or College or Atelier?
D: What's your preferred working surface? Canvas/Board/Linen?
E: Thing you wish you'd learned earlier about painting.
F: How long have you been painting?

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1490665

sorry everyone, didn't see this thread and made my own like an idiot

any criticism on this? primarily acrylic with oil and worked-over charcoal automatic drawing in the center / upper left.

>>1489166
is this based on anything irl or is it completely abstract?

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>>1490665
>automatic drawing

>> No.1490670

>>1490669
take it up with my subconscious bruv

>> No.1490674

>>1490654
A I usually go primaries, but differ each painting. I may either use aquamarine blue or pthalo blue, vermillion or cadmium red, titanium white or flake white, cadmium yellow or mixing indian yellow with white, burnt and raw umbers or cadmium red and pthalo blue as darks. My palette is one big mess or color, arrange by warms and cools.
B Not as often as I want to, thanks to space constraints. I'm upping my output recently, but thus far, one every couple of months.
C Started out in painting class in college, then pretty much self-taught from there on, doing my own research and experimenting with different techniques.
D Canvas for the texture. I have to use wood for impasto-heavy paintings though.
E Some colors are inherently warm or inherently cool, so some mixes won't come out as intended if you don't know this, even if you're just mixing white (ie flake white is a warm color, while zinc white is a cool color).
F Two years

>>1490665
It's completely abstract, despite people telling me it's a door or window or anything like that. I used my collage of magazine cutouts as reference.

>> No.1490678

>>1490674
ah, okay. it's just that the patterns seemed slightly...out of place? arbitrary? for an abstract piece. i think that's one thing you should work on; just tossing polka dots or stripes into a given shape is incredibly kitsch imo.

>> No.1490690
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1490690

Learning to paint sunshine.

>> No.1490704

>>1490654
A: I just pull from the tubes as I go, so it's always different. I use premixes often (raw umber is always there) but never black.
B: I paint once a week, because I work so damn much. I can finish a painting once a week or every other week, since I do direct painting.
C: I took a college course, but they didn't teach much. The drawing professor was a better painter than the painting instructor, if that tells you anything.
D: I enjoy stretched canvas, but if I'm going to be doing anything with a knife, I like paint boards, so knife work doesn't show through on the edges.
E: Oils aren't as scary as they seem.
F: 6 months, still very much a beginner.

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1490910

>>1490690
This will give me the worst tetris effect in sleep.

>> No.1490929

>>1490654
A: Pure primaries
B: When im inspired. I only worked on one in the last year
C: self taught artist
D: canvas linen
E: Nothing
F: Two years
>Captcha: Unique

>> No.1490930

>>1490929
I use mostly
Cobalt blue / pthalo blue
pthalo green
Titanium white
ivory black
magenta ( i like how it blends more then cadmium red)
>Captcha mustered

>> No.1490961

>>1490930
doesn't the ivory black crack on you?
>>1490704 here,
I always mix my own black with ultramarine blue and raw umber.

>> No.1490971

>>1488216
The only thing that is really bothering me is that the eyes on the heads either look like they were left as blank canvas, or painted pure white. This adds too much emphasis (which at the same time could be what you were going for) but it just makes it very distracting to me.

Had you experimented with lighter values of grey or a very light but dull unsaturated version of this apparent greenish color you talked about to unify the eyes with the rest of the piece?

Also, leaving them as a flat color in turn makes them appear flat as well, which is obviously much different than what an eye is.

Even with this being your first painting I like the composition of it a lot, I could see a heavy impasto style to add more texture being very rewarding to this.

>> No.1490970

>>1490961
No it usually doesn't crack
I also use lamp black
Mixing into black? never heard of that however i can see it being a good idea.
>>1490929
Im going to post that work on here when im done... i am hoping to finish it this or next week if i can get alot done.

>> No.1491177

>>1490910
these painted from life?

>> No.1491187

>>1491177
No, unfortunately just looking at various photos.

I'm planning to do life ones next week to observe real colors and light, have to overcome shyness and find a way to transport the supplies.

>> No.1491188
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1491188

Tell me what u think

>> No.1491205

>>1491187
gotcha. i've always found it hard to concentrate outdoors. social anxiety makes it pretty difficult to do anything where there's people around.

>>1491188
the head and tail of the bull are too incidental to the buildings on either side

>> No.1491210

>>1491188
Interesting painting! Keep working on this lol. The only thing is just don't let the objects "kiss" (touch each others edges) in the painting, like how the bull's tail and head are "touching" the buildings - either make space or make them overlap.

>> No.1491213

>>1491210
>>1491210
basic composition stuff. not having objects overlap where they could be flattens out the piece.

>> No.1491215
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OP here. Here's a painting I just started (while I'm letting my other one dry a bit).

>> No.1491230
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1491230

whassup howd i do

>> No.1491237

>>1491230
awful

>> No.1491238

>>1491237
i get that a lot

>> No.1491239

>>1488326
It's not really the point, but if you look at it sideways you can see it's a face.

>> No.1491241

>>1491239
>sage in the name field
>2013

>> No.1491246

>>1491241
Oops, I left that in from a few days ago. Wasn't actually trying to sage.

>> No.1491261

>>1491215
I can't tell what it is, but the composition looks good so far.
I like your palette. (not your choice of colors or anything, I just like palettes that are smothered in paint, it looks good. If I had that well lit and pictured straight on I'd use it as a wallpaper.)
What the hell are you growing?

>> No.1491263

>>1491230
The humanoid thing in the middle looks like baphomet.
I like the moustache guy on the right.

If I had to pick on something I'd say it's too busy. The visual jumble and lack of color co-ordination makes it hard to look at. I'd use more complementary colors or at least agreeable color temperature.

>> No.1491515
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1491515

another one i did quick

>> No.1491572
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1491572

Acrylic

>> No.1491592

How can I paint like Jenny saville? She has an amazing style and I love it if someone that is knowledgable could anaylze it

>> No.1491596

Should I work on canvas or wood? I like how oil paintings on wood don't have a canvas texture

>> No.1491616
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1491616

watercolour on 24x18

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>>1491616
more watercolour

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>>1491616
moar watercllour

>> No.1491621

>>1491596
Paint on wood then. Nobody said you're not allowed to.

>> No.1491656

>>1488313
>>1491230
>>1491515
I'd like to have those three on my wall.
A part of me is horrified when I see them, and I like that.

>> No.1491664

>>1491616
>>1491620
Watercolor really shouldn't be used in this way. I hope you'll understand I'm trying to be constructive and will read this post as a piece of advice and not an attack on you or your art.
A few things, your drawing skills need work. Don't worry, everybody can always work but the values are off on these and there are so many drawing issues that I don't know where to begin. Your watercolors will never look professional until you get your drawings down. All amazing paintings start with amazing drawings.
Second, be more selective with your strokes. It's all about economizing and letting your strokes breathe for themselves with watercolor. With this in mind things like lost edges can be done with some success but reworking the same area with multiple strokes causes a great deal of problems with watercolor (Well, with all mediums to be honest but it's extremely evident in watercolor.)
Watercolor, once applied to the page, should be allowed to dry. There are exceptions to this of course and you can do things like mix multiple pigments into a stroke for a gradient or lose an edge but letting things partially dry and lifting but these things will come in time. In the mean time, try to make as few strokes as possible.Always try and use the right brush for the job, the right sized brush will make the right sized mark and with watercolors this is extremely important. Use the translucency to your advantage, it seems it's fighting you with most of your images.
Anyway, hope you'll get something out of this. Best of luck in the future with your art anon.

>> No.1491666

>>1490910
>>1490690
>>1489462
God, I love all of these. They have my favorite subject, nature, and my favorite medium, watercolor. Show me more anon.

>> No.1491671

>>1491666
I'm flattered, thanks!
I often dream of swamps and forests and wish to be able to recreate the mood.

Uploaded everything here: http://damedumal.deviantart.com

If you made some, post yours too.

>> No.1491697

>>1491664
ah thank you kind anon, thanks for taking the time out to crit. would you post some of your pieces to show me an example?

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I got banned for several days for absolutely zero legitimate reason. The given reason was I violated rule 6 which encourages high quality content. The painting in question was high quality. It was like a Franz Marc painting. When I tried to appeal and ask the people in charge to explain exactly how I broke that rule, and why I was banned. There was no response.

This is a great injustice. There are plenty of worse, lower quality works on ic but only I am getting banned constantly for violating rule 6. If there is no explanation coming from the janitors, there is nothing I can do to try to avoid banning from happening again.
I am going to keep producing works I want to make and share it online. Nothing can stop me.
If you are the janitor, and you are reading this, leave me alone and let me be, or if you are going to ban me again, you have a serious obligation to explain thoroughly what I did wrong, how I broke rule 6 on quality, and how I can avoid breaking that rule again. Until that happens, no change will be forthcoming on my part.

>> No.1491767 [DELETED] 

>>1491764
that ban sounds like a personal attack
i don1t see any reason to get you banned

>> No.1491781 [DELETED] 

>>1491764
By quality they meant what you write in the posts, not the artwork you upload.

If you can't understand why you got banned then get ready to get banned again until you do.

If you don't wish to be banned then take my tip: take off your name, post your art with minimal explanation and respond with simply a "thank you" to everyone that critiques

>> No.1491790 [DELETED] 

>>1491781
How exactly was what I wrote low quality? On the post that got me banned, I said the janitors disabled bumping on my own thread, so I was posting again in this painting thread. I just stated the facts on what happened and why I was reposting on this thread. What can go wrong with a comment like this?

It wasn't a critique on someone else's painting. I could understand getting banned for offering a very low quality critique. But not on comment that has nothing to do with being qualified as low or high quality.

I want credit for my artworks, so I am going to keep posting with my real name.

I will adopt the strategy you suggested. Thanks.

>> No.1491796 [DELETED] 

>>1491790
OK. I am glad you accept what I said. Just understand that it's best to ignore it if you are getting flamed. What nobody wants to see is genuine draw threads getting shitted up with bickering

>> No.1491805
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I wasn't going to post my work in this thread but then I saw >>1491664 and figured what the hey. pic is of a life painting i did in a 8.5 x 11 sketchbook about a month ago in about 7 minutes. i feel like i already know some of the stuff i should have done differently but maybe someone sees something ive missed

>> No.1491927

>>1488314
i love this, did you decide on the eyes yet?

>> No.1491966

>>1491592
>How can I paint like Jenny saville?

If you're asking that question you probably can't.

>> No.1491967

>>1491966
If he could he wouldn't need to ask in the first place, that's why he asked

>> No.1491976

>>1491967
There are things that you should figure out yourself through analysis and experimentation.

>> No.1492097
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>>1491967
Somebody who had the talent, skills and knowledge to potentially paint like Jenny Saville wouldn't go on the internet and ask how to paint like her.
If somebody ever asks 'How do I paint like him/her?" it's quite safe to assume that that person isn't yet good enough.

>>1491976
Also what he said

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friend gave me this little canvas piece and said go for it. I could never draw so i went for the abstract route. my first painting since like middle school. might try painting sometime soon

>> No.1492109

>>1492105
It's kind of a mess. Go read up on the elements of design, then try to make paintings that express morion or rhythm, or an emotion.

Gotta learn the rules before you can break em.

>> No.1492113

>>1492105
waste of paint

this board is for people attempting to take art seriously, if you're interested, read the sticky

no one here will ever care about shit like youve just posted

>> No.1492161

>>1492105
very cute, don't listen to these negative nancys

>(most of 'em can't draw either)

>> No.1492164

>>1492097
"hai guys lets talk about jenny saville's techniques!"

"shut up bitch if you were a better artist you would know everything waghhhhhh!!! and no i'm not covering for my own ignorance!!!"

>> No.1492177

>>1492161
go back to da, you are not wanted here

>> No.1492207
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>>1491697
Posting my stuff would be the blind leading the blind in a lot of ways as I'm not a master or amazingly successful by any means. I'm a student and I'm just a bit farther ahead in the journey than you is all.
Look at and try to emulate people that do what you want to do/have the job you want to have.
I personally really like benjamin bjorklund in terms of painting. His watercolor studies are really nice and his oil paintings are gorgeous as well.
But, if this isn't something you want to do people like Nathan Fowkes and James gurney do really fantastic watercolor work as well and you could look at them.
If I post my work it's like saying that you should compare what you're doing to what I'm doing and that's really not a good way of going about progress because l'm not extremely successful so emulating or gauging yourself on my work would really do you no good.
TL;DR emulate the people that do what you ultimately want to do and not your peers or the best kid in class.

>> No.1492213

>>1492097
okay what i meant. lets all analyze her style and maybe learn something from it

clearly if i knew i wouldn't ask

>> No.1492215

>>1492105
10/10.

would pay 3.5 million for this piece. seriously there are a lot of artist that make art like this that get paid way too much

>> No.1492217

>>1492215
It's because of reputation..of course you knew that. So why even comment?

>> No.1492236

>>1491805
seriously? no one?

>> No.1492238

>>1492164
Don't be childish.

>> No.1492240

>>1492161
>don't listen to these negative nancys
One was legit advice, the other was someone being an asshole.
Learn to tell critique apart from people being purposely hurtful, rather than lumping them all together like a dumbass.

>> No.1492245
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>>1492213
I'm not sure what you want. Each of her paintings take months if not years to complete. She'll have her preferred methods, but her style of painting is more of an intuitive thing and not something you can learn to copy very easily.
Just paint a lot (a lot, a lot) and figure things out for yourself. By the time you're good enough to paint like Jenny Saville you'll be good enough to not want to paint like Jenny Saville and do your own thing.

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some of mine 1/4

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>>1492250
2/4

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>>1492252
3/4

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>>1492255
4/4

>> No.1492259

>>1492250
>>1492257

I like these two. Are they pastel?

>> No.1492261

>>1491230
>>1491515

im loving the creativity/colors

>> No.1492263

>>1492259
yes but contrast is pretty shitty in the one with the girl

>> No.1492265

>>1492245
that's not an analysis, that's faff.
there's plenty to talk about, the size of her work, which is huge, all that knife work, the limited palette the clever way she manipulates key. she must of been painting from life for like forever, i bet she was into the plein air stuff when she was younger.

>> No.1492301
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1492301

Made this last week.

>> No.1492302

>>1492265
how does she keep her colors so separated and not mixed? like there so blocky and look like japanese videogame concept art

does she just work on one layer at a time? and how many colors does she use in one painting

>> No.1492303

>>1492265
All obvious as fuck.

>> No.1492306
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>>1487680
trying out some lowkeyness

>> No.1492314
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>>1492265
I wasn't making an analysis. And you just pulled half that stuff out of your arse.

What limited palette? I've seen her studio and photos of her working. She premixes dozens of different colours before she even begins painting.
She may have painted from life as a student but she has been working exclusively from photos for about twenty years.

>the clever way she manipulates key.
I'm not even sure what this means

>> No.1492317
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1492317

>>1492302
it's mainly because she lays it on thick with the palette knife and the huge size, i mean you gotta understand these things are massive.

from what i've seen of her colours, and i'm no expert obviously, she usually uses something pretty similar to zorn usually, a cool black a red a yellow and white

>> No.1492321

>>1492314
i did say when she was younger, and it doesn't matter what you mix, the pigments are the palette.
as for key is brightness in layman's terms, normally when you have a high key image you loose detail and/or colour in the darks. saville, in a very clever manner, managers to not lose much colour or detail.

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>>1490690
>>1490910
>>1490690
>>1490910
>>1490690
>>1490910

This type of shit is so incredible to me. As a thumbnail (or far away), this looks like a photograph. It's beautiful and perfect. Close up it looks like diarrhea on a page.

This diarrhea take God given talent though. BVASGYHJK

>> No.1492390

>>1491927
No, not yet. No inspiration has struck, and I have to sleep in not too long so I can't start now.

Bump, by the way. This is a wonderful thread.

>> No.1492456

>>1492301
Thats nice, but do they float in vacuum space?

>> No.1492460

>>1492301
It could use some more not-so-rough-brushwork. Or save that to your next piece. The light on the top of that vase is great

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>>abstract

>> No.1492489

>>1492468
Apart from that light texture on the middle right I really like this.
Do this kind of thing on canvas and you could probably sell it for a bit.

>> No.1492500

>>1492489
>>1492489
Hmmk, Thanks
It's acrylic on canvas "16x20"

>> No.1492517

>>1490910
What do you mean by this? The sun will or painting the sun?

>> No.1492525

>>1492500
The edges look a lot like paper. There's no depth behind them and they're bent like paper. I'm guessing you didn't stretch the canvas then?

>> No.1492535

>>1492317
Holy fuck. Where does someone get wood that big? Would buying wood at walmart and guessing it work?

>> No.1492547

>>1492535
Not Walmart, I meant like menards or some shit

>> No.1492548

>>1492535
home depot dumbass

>> No.1492570

>>1492535
*and gesso-ong it work. Stupid autocorrect

>> No.1492642

>>1491656

thank you, sir.

>> No.1492744

>>1492489
>>1492468
I must say that the light texture of white on the middle of the right side is my favorite part.

Only thing I would say is glaze some parts of this. For instance, put a little glaze over part of that white part..some slightly darker color, then wipe it off so it only remains in the deepest crevasses. That's how Rembrandt and others would finish certain highlight areas on their paintings, like on noses. It stressed the highlight and texture, giving it dimensionality and a more fleshy appearance.

>> No.1492755

>>1492535
it's probably stretched canvas on custom stretcher bars...

>> No.1492783

>>1492517
I was pretty focused and when I do it keeps happening, no real dreams but painting painting painting, must mix right color.

>> No.1492790 [DELETED] 

>>1488497

maybe you should inform moot that his mods on this forum do nothing to discourage arrogant, rude excuses for "critique" from people who's art theory knowledge extends as far as figure drawing and rendering.

It's one thing to call something shitty, it's another thing to call something shitty then claim the person you're insulting "isn't open to critique" because in reality you were a dick and didn't offer any valid criticism (just opinion) at all.

(Most) people here are not familiar enough with color theory, 2-dimensional design, art theory or any other semi-advanced topic. Their "critiques" amount to insults.


>>1492113

^exhibit a, that's not a fucking critique.

I had a painting teacher last semester that would verbally admonish you if you said some bullshit like "waste of paint" or "i like/don't like it because ____" or "you don't know how to draw you need to go back to the basics", the only statements we were allowed to make during critique were "it works (or doesn't) because _____". This was for our OWN benefit as much as the student being critiqued.

Critique isn't supposed to be personal, and I think 4chan "board culture" is a poor excuse to allow assholes to spew nonsense. I'm sure you're as aware that /ic/ isn't /b/ or /soc/, so I really don't see the hostility and stupidity as "culture".

I'm not saying Chun Bun Park handles the crits any better then some of these assholes give them, but I personally wouldn't expect anyone to receive a critique humbly from some anonymous faggots who can't even explain the source of their hormonal attitudes.

>> No.1492800

>>1492790
Stop trying to derail the thread you fucking sperglord.

>> No.1492802
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finished this recently

>> No.1492805

>>1492802
looks nice, but the signature bothers me. it's too distracting but that might just be a personal preference

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Something's not right about the composition but I'm not sure what.

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I like to paint male torsos
No homo

>> No.1492869

I've learned how to paint. Mixing colors seems hard.
How the fuck do you guys do it

>> No.1492871

>>1492869
what do you mean? how to physically do it or what's the "science" behind getting colors right?

>> No.1492880

>>1492869
Don't mix the paint with a brush. Use a palette knife or something.

Always remember your colour wheel (sounds elementary, but you should always keep it in your mind)
If you want to tone down a colour or "grey" it, mix a little bit of the complimentary colour with it

>> No.1492898

>>1492861
that makes me want to eat the paint

>> No.1492900

>>1492808
the bird seems massive compared to the...fox/wolf thing.
maybe the animals should be more down and right ever so slightly

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>>1487680
another lowkey study, this ones in oil, not varnished as yet (or ever probably) so is a bit flat looking

>> No.1492925

>>1492900
This is it, thanks!

My wolf ended up being smaller than a fox, heh.
http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/files/2011/10/7_DAmicis_portfolio-950x633.jpg

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looking for critique on this since nobody seemed interested in the other one.

>>1492861
Looks like de Kooning without the energy. A lot of your brushstrokes are really wobbly, which saps it of any really dynamic movement. That might not be the direction you're going for, of course, but if I were you I'd sacrifice some accuracy for more spontaneous application.

>>1492468
This is really nice. Did you mix any of those colors before painting them on?

>>1492808
The only detailed portion of it is in the lower right-hand quadrant; there's no balance at all between that portion and the rest of it. You could maybe go for some sort of structure placed on the hill in the center/upper left, to create draw into the background of the composition?

>> No.1493051 [DELETED] 

>>1493050
(sorry, that's meant to be oriented with the left side up)

>> No.1493054 [DELETED] 

>>1493051
so how about copying then deleting your fucking post, orienting that piece of garbage and repost?

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looking for critique on this since nobody seemed interested in the other one.

>>1492861
Looks like de Kooning without the energy. A lot of your brushstrokes are really wobbly, which saps it of any really dynamic movement. That might not be the direction you're going for, of course, but if I were you I'd sacrifice some accuracy for more spontaneous application.

>>1492468
This is really nice. Did you mix any of those colors before painting them on?

>>1492808
The only detailed portion of it is in the lower right-hand quadrant; there's no balance at all between that portion and the rest of it. You could maybe go for some sort of structure placed on the hill in the center/upper left, to create draw into the background of the composition?

>> No.1493084

>>1493056
The palette is to icy for my tastes, and the only thing this composition really had going for it were the perspective lines but you ruined it with the weird splotchy/drippy/masked/whatever of gray and the garish blue stripe

there are some nice moments however, I like the blue texture in the bottom right corner and the lines surrounding it, and the foreshortened rectangle above it is nice. I even like the little scribbly squares underneath the mess I complained about earlier.

I think you should push the texture and perspective more instead of trying to add gimmicky paint drips and subtractive techniques

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>>1493084

Funny that those are the bits you don't like; it started out with just those parts, and the perspective was only added in just recently to provide some depth.

You're definitely right, the blue stripe has to go, but I feel like if they were confined a bit more the ink washed areas (the "splotchy/drippy/masked/whatever of gray") would provide some important textural contrast.

Definitely agree on the drippy shapes, those are pretty gross. I'm gonna try and solidify the whole thing more and work on defining individual shapes. Thanks for the words, I appreciate it.

>> No.1493120

>>1493056
>I'd sacrifice some accuracy for more spontaneous application.
Thanks, I agree. That painting is actually one I did around October/November. I loosened the style up a lot more with my more recent torso paintings. Didn't have the photo file of recent ones, so I posted that one.

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>> No.1493160

>>1493120
oh, okay. it'd be cool to see the more recent ones; i'd love to see how you've developed.

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>>1493160
Got hold of one image.
(It's the right way up. The torso is supposed to be upside down)
This one is much more recent. And it's actually one of 2 or 3 that will be shown in NY soon

>> No.1493191

>>1493184
i already saw that in a toilet in ny

>> No.1493195

>>1493191
rly? which one?

>> No.1493196

>>1493191
iceburn.png

>>1493184
Hah, you're right, this is definitely a lot more gestural than the other piece. Do you just do these from pictures online?

>> No.1493200

>>1493184
Lol thanks to that other anon, I can't not see a bunch of floaters with bloody tp

good work, tripfag.

>> No.1493208

>>1493200
lel, I kinda see it now.

>>1493196
No, they were previously from life classes in uni. The newer ones are from my own body, but painted blindly from the sense of touch (see Claude Heath)

>> No.1493212

>>1493208
why dont you learn how to draw and paint instead of trying to discover a gimmicky way to make bad art

>> No.1493216
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>>1493212
But I do know how to draw
(Ok, a drawing from 1st year of uni, but still, I can't be bothered to sift through my computer to find files of drawings just to prove a point to some random person on the internet)

>> No.1493217

>>1493212
>muh style

because its easier to take a dump on a canvas wear a beret and call himself an artist than to put in the 10k hours

>> No.1493229

>>1493217
>>1493212
Aren't people allowed to try whatever the fuck they please without getting projected upon by angry backseat critics?

>> No.1493231 [DELETED] 

>>1493229
take the crit faggot, nothing projected but your butthurt

>> No.1493232

>>1493229
this is /ic/. Artwork Critique. if you don't like it get back in the kitchen cunt

>> No.1493233
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>>1493231
>*click* whirrrr

>> No.1493235

>>1493216
decent work, you should explore that direction more instead of the ridiculous gesture impasto sludge that no one connects to

>>1493229
yeah im projecting my knowledge that if you want to become an artist who makes professional level representational work than you need to master drawing

>> No.1493236

>>1493232
Except that's not critique at all. Hence "shitty backseat critics"

Learn to read yea? What youre supposed to be doing now is telling me about how you fucked my mom.

>> No.1493237

first we had 'edgy'
now all the summerfags with the bruised egos and buttholes are hiding behind 'projecting'

waaaaaaaah.jpg

>> No.1493241

>>1493237
Stop being so edgy bro

>> No.1493245

>>1493232

I'm not >>1493229

I can take the critique. If you don't like the work, then fine. I'm not bothered.

>> No.1493250

>>1493235
He's not trying to make "professional level representational work" as far as I can tell; that piece isn't supposed to be fully visually representational.

>>1493232
That isn't "critique," it's being a complete ass and personally attacking the artist. Either talk about the work or fuck off.

>> No.1493251

>>1493233
You went through the effort of saving a file of a projector onto your computer, pulling it up on 4chan, then typing out the onomatopoeia for the sound of projector, just so you could potentially insult a random person on the internet whom you essentially know nothing about.

Think about that.

>> No.1493254

>>1493250
Right, because paintings of torsos aren't representational. Back to your high-school tier abstract paintings, tripfag.

>> No.1493255

>doing things is stupid
kill yourself -
no haha oh wait
i bet you think that'd be futile too.

>> No.1493257

>>1493251
Are you even talking to the person you think you're talking to? I can't tell anymore

(I'm assuming you think you're talking to me seen as you're making reference to searching through files on the computer)

Fucking hell, learn to read.


>>1493250
>that piece isn't supposed to be fully visually representational.
You're correct.
Nice to see someone on /ic/ has some sort of brains

>> No.1493259

>>1493254
>tfw graduated high school a month ago
man that is just an utterly devastating insult.

>>1493257
This place is apparently full of neo-realists.

>> No.1493260

>>1493254
You literally have no idea what you are talking about

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>>1493251

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>>1493208
This Claude Heath guy is kinda cool
It's kinda hilarious to imagine him groping a model's face for a few hours.

>> No.1493275

>>1493056
Interesting composition, but personally, none of the the ones you've shown stood up to me thus far. Probably because I'm not a fan of the drab color choices, but I'm not feeling these at all.

>> No.1493279

>>1493274
Lol, that's a funny image.
But it's all his own head/face/body. I don't imagine many models being cool with getting groped all day.
That's where I got the idea of the sense of touch torso paintings. It's an interesting concept. To me, anyway.

http://www.claudeheath.com/texts/article7.php

>> No.1493280

>>1493279
>funny image.
The idea of groping a model's face, I meant.

>> No.1493283
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>>1493275
this is an older piece i did, should i go back to more vibrant colors...? the blue one was supposed to have a small color palette, and the other...yeah, the colors are kinda right shit on that one.

any improvements you'd recommend specifically?

>>1493280
oh, thanks for clarifying. your syntax was INSANELY confusing.

it's an interesting technique, but...yeah, definitely more conceptually bent than anything.

>> No.1493290

these threads always make me feel better about my work

>> No.1493293

>>1493290
post your work then

>> No.1493319

>>1491572

FIST FULL A DORRAH.

>> No.1493322

>>1493290
45min
i think we can confirm that this anon has never painted anything in his life.

>> No.1493330
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1493330

this ones called Roommates

>> No.1493332

>>1493330
I WIN!

>> No.1493341

>>1493330
love it!

>> No.1493345

>>1493341
my years of solitude and loneliness have PAID OFF IN SPADES!

>> No.1493365

>>1488313
ooh i love this

>> No.1493372

>>1493365

thanks!

>> No.1493378

>>1493293
>>1493322
>implying i need to prove i'm better than this shit

lol'd good one guys

>> No.1493386

>>1493233
What did I miss here? Someone using projector to paint? Is that bad to do?

>> No.1493390

>>1493386
it's literally tracing, why would you ever sink to those depths

>> No.1493425

>>1493390
What if you drew something out on paper, projected that to mak an under painting?

Why is that bad?

>> No.1493437

>>1493425
>underpaintings
if you can't get it right the first time don't even fukn bother

>> No.1493459

>>1493390
If you know your art history, a lot of Baroque painters do this, even Caravaggio, using specialized lenses focused on sunlight to serve as an early projector. Even though tracing is discouraged, it's sometimes necessary, and it did not stop the masters from creating those fine works of art.

>> No.1493462

>>1493459
but Baroque art was shit.

>> No.1493469

>>1493462
Whatever, troll

>>1492905
Sometimes, you don't even have to worry about varnishing, especially if you applied it thick. The varnish will just flatten and even everything out, which works for some paintings, but not all.

>> No.1493494

>>1493462
You bitch.

>> No.1493500
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1493500

newest piece i did. I know i need more warm light. i just kind of hit a wall though.

>> No.1493502
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1493502

This was my first oil painting initially it was only the shell on the front but I decided to add something else to it. I wish I had done something else for the background.

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>>1493502
another of mine, the two crosses were actually meant to be telephone poles but with me being shitty at watercolor I had no idea how to create them or the actual wires correctly.

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>>1493502
You'll probably want to go into considerably greater detail if you're making a composition that macro; if you confront a viewer with an object like that you want to make sure the object is worth looking at.

>>1493516
This is cool, but...severely unbalanced, without any detail towards the top. I think it would probably work a lot better as a horizontal composition with the entire top half lopped off.

>> No.1493554 [DELETED] 

FLOCKA WAKA WAKA FLOCKA WAKA FLOCKA

>> No.1493698

>>1493378
Not anyone you're replying to,
But if you're going to call someone's work shit and say yours is so much better and not even show your work to compare, well yeah, you do need to prove it.

>> No.1493714

>>1493390
>He's never heard of Vermeer's camera

laughingwhores.jpg

Who the fuck are these people that browse this board?

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>>1493714
I guess when you say Vermeer's camera you mean camera obscura. Camera obscura had been used for hundreds of years before Vermeer.

In any case, many artists used projection. Aside from Vermeer some prominent names are Maxfield Parrish and Norman Rockwell.

Plenty of people have used other historic means, such as Camera Lucida. People like Durer and Leonardo used means such as Durer's "drawing machine," and Leonardo traced landscapes on glass. Leonardo wrote many times of the wonders of Camera Obscura (as well as Magic Lantern, another projection device) but we don't know if he used them for art.

>> No.1493744

>>1493516
Very quiet. The placement of the telephone poles confuse me but it wouldn't have been so bad if the black didnt bleed out. Should've waited for it to try, bro.

>> No.1493769

>>1493729
vermeer used some kind of projection but it's not entirely established what is was, so vermeer's camera refers to the camera vermeer used, whatever it may of been.

>> No.1493789

>>1493769
Huh? What would it be besides Camera Obscura?

>> No.1493798

What you will find on this board are people who have never heard of the camera obscura, and people who think that every great artist of..he past used one (because they can't draw for shit and need to explain it)

others here have read books like 'vermeers camera' and can tell men like Leonardo didn't need to use one.

>> No.1493803

>>1493798
I don't think you'll find a single person who thinks every great artist of the past used camera obscura, but you will find douchebags making wild and unsupportable blanket statements (you for instance). Nobody even said anything about Leonardo using Camera Obscura for art purposes.

>> No.1493843

>>1493803
stick around longer summerfag

>> No.1493954

>>1493843
Summerfag? Sorry to say I've wasted a lot of time on /ic/, all seasons, for a number of years, and in that time I've never seen a single person claim that all old masters used camera obscura, despite seeing and participating in a number of discussions on optical aids.

Perhaps something slipped by me, and you could provide evidence for your assertions in the form of screenshots or links to pertinent threads/posts in archival form. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

>> No.1493956

>>1493954
third party here. congratulations on winning a pointless debate on the internet. go the fuck outside.

>> No.1493967

>>1493956
If you're actually a third party, maybe it's you who should go outside. I don't think it's healthy getting so wound up about some conversation between other people.

>> No.1493982

>>1493500
this is fantastic, i love those colors
saved for inspiration

>> No.1494012

>>1493500
The glow is kinda good. The top left portion needs a lot of work though

>> No.1494023
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1494023

Wow /ic/ actually talks about legitimate painting now? Not just "lol look at muh tablet drawing!" threads?

Wonderful.
No I will not resize my pics, reproductions are bad enough.

>> No.1494027
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>>1494023

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>>1494027

>> No.1494034

>>1494023
I remember this painting from a year or two ago. Very similar to the output of skulky, imo. I'll let that speak for itself.

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>>1494034
I have no idea what that means.

>> No.1494038

>>1494027
Much better than the previous one, which I'd never post or show publicly again if I were you. I'd mind the edges a little more. The hairline is too uniformly crisp...I'd have softened it in places.

>>1494030
Eh, not really here nor there.

>> No.1494043

>>1494037
It means you're probably skulky.

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>>1494043
What is Skulky?

>> No.1494047
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>>1494045

>> No.1494055 [DELETED] 

>>1494045
skulky pls go.

>> No.1494056
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1494056

I definitely enjoy this one.
>>1493283

Very graphic, kind of a abstract expressionist twist on Mondrian.

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>>1492905
The little touches of light really being out the highlights well, without being over-the-top in this one.

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>>1494056

>> No.1494062
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>>1494061

>> No.1494064
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>>1494062

>> No.1494067

>>1494038
>Much better than the previous one, which I'd never post or show publicly again if I were you.
Can I get an explanation as to why?
What issues do you see with it?

>> No.1494070
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>>1492880

>This is my professor
Now to be perfectly clear I'm not using her work as a platform to say that I can paint, but I read one of the comments in this thread asking for advice on how to mix colors.

She taught me this.

You want to paint still lifes until your brain bleeds and you want to be as familiar with the colors until you can't grasp why the fuck you're doing it anymore.

It's very natural, but you also want some good paint (professional grade preferred -- Grumbacher does the trick) and good brushes which vary from synthetic, but you want to get red or black sable (which have INSANE amounts of quality to them)

If you're looking for a smooth sub-straight use fucking panel for christssake and then paint the colors for more than one sitting. Use liquin for best results and never mix with a palatte knife because you'll end up wasting paint just clean the fucking brush in between mixing and shoot for colors that match what you're painting.

>> No.1494073

>>1494070
>Use liquin for best results

I love Liquin. That stuff is a miracle medium.
Just make sure to always use it in a ventilated environment.

>> No.1494075

>>1491230
I love the use of colors in this one. In the thumbnail it looks great, but zoomed you can see how smudgy all the lines are, and it doesn't really work as well as it could have. If it was sharper it would be a really interesting piece of art.

>> No.1494076

>>1494070
why do you prefer liquin to linseed oil? drying time. I don't like the glossy sheen liquin leaves myself.

>> No.1494079

>>1494076
Then you're putting too much of it into your paint.

>> No.1494082

>>1494079
Exactly.

>> No.1494083

>>1494038
it's not even a bad painting, stop playing edgy

>> No.1494084

>>1494067
Terribad construction (or lack thereof). Horrific paint handling (that hair...wow). Absolutely dismal skin tones. Literally everything about it is awful. It's stunning that you can't see how poor it is. I feel like I'm being trolled.

>> No.1494087

>>1494083
Edgy? It's edgy to mention that a terrible painting is terrible? How so?

>> No.1494088

>>1494084
>Terribad construction (or lack thereof)
This is very vague, can you extrapolate?

>Horrific paint handling (that hair...wow)
You'll have to be more specific. You're speaking vagueries.

>Absolutely dismal skin tones.
see above

>Literally everything about it is awful.
see above

I'm not claiming it as some masterpiece. But your "feedback" isn't really all that constructive.

>> No.1494089

>>1494088
i wouldn't bother listen to a condescending morron giving vague critique if I were you

>> No.1494090

>>1494088
Ignore the troll. /ic/ often has menstrual posters who get angry at something and just attack it blindly. It's a better painting than what most of the board can put together. But it does have flaws.

>> No.1494091

>>1494088
>This is very vague, can you extrapolate?
>extrapolate

I don't think that means what you think it means, skulky.

>> No.1494093 [DELETED] 

>>1494091
It has several similar definitions, one of them being, "to expand upon [a topic]".

I used it correctly.

>> No.1494092

>>1494090
it doesn't have flaws

you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.1494094

>>1494091
It has several similar definitions, one of them being, "to expand upon [a topic]".

I used it correctly.
And what the fuck does "skulky" mean?

Anyone fill me in on this "le epic meme"?

>> No.1494098

>>1494092
Well, as the artist in question, I'd agree that it has flaws.
The hair is certainly one of them, I'm not the best with it, but I don't think it's as atrocious as the other poster is claiming.

>> No.1494100

>>1494090
He's probably a troll, but he's right. The hair is painted really badly. It's like one of those lego heads where you just plonk the block of hair on it

>> No.1494104

>>1494100
I'd agree, but the first rule of painting hair is to treat hair as a mass, not spaghetti strands.

I think I just need to find a healthy medium.

>> No.1494105

>>1494098


>>1494100 here.
You're right, the hair needs fixing, but it's not as atrocious as that guy is saying

>> No.1494109

>>1494023
The hair is a major problem for me. It needs to be a bit smaller, and have more individual strand details.
but otherwise it's really good. The skin is really well done. And the dress was given a pretty good leverl of detail.

>> No.1494111

>>1494094
What's skulky mean? Well, considering that you were posting here at the same time as skulky (your first painting in this thread was posted on October 2, 2011), and considering that you feel you know enough about /ic/ to say
>Wow /ic/ actually talks about legitimate painting now? Not just "lol look at muh tablet drawing!" threads?
I'm pretty sure you already know the answer.

>> No.1494114

>>1494111
I am so fucking confused.

You somehow have the date remembered when I first posted that painting when it wasn't finished? 2 years ago??

And so now I'm this... other person you dislike?

This is a special kind of autism you got, son.

>> No.1494115

>>1494114
Just.
Ignore.
The.
Troll.

>> No.1494117

>>1494111
I don't care what you have personally against that poster wether he's "skulky" or not but get fucked for derailing the thread with personal bullshit. Poster was on topic, you are not.

>> No.1494121

>>1494114
sounds more like paranoid schizophrenia

>> No.1494119

>>1494114
I save pictures from /ic/. Most because they're good. A tiny percentage because they make me laugh and would look good in The Museum of Bad Art. Yours was the latter.

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>>1494114
Here it is for reference.

Enjoy.

>> No.1494134

>>1494127
what is your problem with this Anon?
You are a fucking creep.

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1494182

>>1494045
>What is Skulky?
>>1494094
>And what the fuck does "skulky" mean?
>Anyone fill me in on this "le epic meme"?
>>1494114
>And so now I'm this... other person you dislike?

Game over, skulky.

This should be a treat for you new people. Skulky is the most notorious troll ever known to /ic/. His samefagging (as you see itt) is legendary.

We have moderation now, skulky. You're not gonna like it one bit, so why don't you turn around right now and head somewhere else.

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1494186

Way to derail a great thread.

>> No.1494187

>>1494182
P.S. Dear mod, the above is public service that all should be aware of. I will happily delete it once my comrades have had a chance to see it.

>> No.1494193

>>1494187
who cares about your personal grudge?
what did this person even do to you post the goddamn story

>> No.1494195

>>1494182
Well thanks for alerting me to his page so I can subscribe at least.
He seems p cool.

polite sage as retard schizophrenia anon ruined the thread with his grudge holding over an identity crisis.

>> No.1494197

>>1494182
jesus christ
all aboard the autism express. toot toot

>> No.1494198

>>1494195
Thread reached bump limit anyways at least.

>> No.1494199

>>1494193
It's not a personal grudge. Skulky is the worst troll in /ic/ history, end of story. You want to talk about a thread being derailed? Skulky will detail the entire board, and that's not an exaggeration. It's not a minor problem, and it will affect everyone. I will gladly remove ALL posts of mine relating to the issue in a short while. Skulky, on the other hand, may be ushering in another dark age for /ic/.

>> No.1494201

>>1494182
>This should be a treat for you new people.
Speak for yourself aspie.

No one knows what you're fucking going on about.

>> No.1494202

>>1494199
fuck off retard.

>> No.1494206

>>1494199
I've seen this person attacked now and weeks ago and all I saw him posting was his work. So I don't care. He did nothing wrong from what I've seen.

>> No.1494209

>>1494182
Oh he's got a DA.
Not sure if that anon is in the thread anymore, but if he is.

Get off of DA, man. Don't associate your stuff with that cesspit.

>> No.1494219

That was a lot of samefagging, even for you, skulky.

>> No.1494262

>>1494070
never mix with a palatte knife because you'll end up wasting paint just clean the fucking brush in between mixing and shoot for colors that match what you're painting.
N

No

>> No.1494313

Anyone wanna archive this? Let's make this the first official /ic/ traditional painting thread, one of many more to come.

>> No.1494332

>>1494313
I'd rather not seeing that it was completely derailed by a retard.

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>>1494030
Needs more opacity; right now you've got two layers, neither of which are particularly foregrounded. I do quite like how you reverse the overlap relationship at the top and bottom, though.

>>1494037
What media is this?

>>1494056
oh, hey, thanks. Yeah, I was actually going at merging decalcomania with De Stijl compositions at the time. pic related is some of the others from the same series.

>>1494182
pls take yr insanity elsewhere
nobody cares about the drama that you think you're fighting but are actually creating

>>1494186
oh jeez, i really like your clouds. upper left especially. they almost glow.

>>1494199
GO AWAY
YOU ARE THE ONE DERAILING THINGS

>>1494070
>mixing with a palette knife
hah, i had never actually thought of this before. always mixed with a brush. good idea.

>>1494313
let's keep this shit going, this board moves slow

>> No.1494354

>>1494336
nvm, new thread here
>>1494352

>> No.1494357

>>1494336
Well... coming back to this thread now... I can see things didn't go too well in resolving...

>Needs more opacity; right now you've got two layers, neither of which are particularly foregrounded.
You'll have to also excuse that I am not the best photographer. So some of the photos may look very faded or jagged. But yeah, my idea wasn't really to establish a ground, more to layer textures and plains that intersect one another.

>What media is this?
Oil

>let's keep this shit going, this board moves slow
The issue is that the thread has reached it's bump limit unfortunately.

>> No.1494364

>>1494357

>>1494363

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The Animator by Chunbum Park
Portrait of my friend. She was extremely pleased. Gonna buy it for $5