/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>1479501

I used to love anime as a kid but I realized all the characters look the same, as if the illustrators use stencils to draw them. It's disgustingly terrible.

But 1% of it is bearable, the stuff studio ghibli makes is neat.

>>1479512
I don't think there's anything wrong with liking a certain style and adapting off of it. As long as you don't go around thinking it's the all superior style, and you still practice other styles and techniques, I think it's fine.

>>1479501
>>1479518

> redjuice
Are you good at analysing his style? I desperately want to imitate even a fraction of his work and I'd love some tips.

>>1479524
I wish, man. I wish. The best luck i've actually had is observing the figures that are based off his work, so I'm thinking of his art in a 3D form and can study his folds and anatomy. Of course, they cost a crapton, and most are only available in Garage Kit form, so I wouldn't recommend it.

>>1479528
Here are some basic measurements I got from studying his proportions. They seem to be pretty consistent across all his work.

The only thing I struggle with are his faces (I've been doing studies on him and nil and still haven't figured out the secret for the faces), and to some extent his brush strokes (the hard edges are not difficult, it's knowing how to place them that is). His palette seems to be plain, which is hard to get used to for me since I love heavy vibrance.

If you don't know nil already I recommend observing and studying his work too, since he is practically a perfect copy of redjuice's style. Some other artists I know of that are influenced by redjuice are - saiki, el zheng, s-ilo.

Good luck man, it's not often I get to meet another proper redjuice fan on /ic/

>>1479553
you know, the stuff people often underestimate is the width.
for example the shoulders, the neck and the ribcage and their relationships.

>>1479528
>>1479524
you guys should really find some better artist to look up to. Redjuice is shit

>>1479553
Wow, thanks man. This'll be a lot of help.
I know of Nil and El Zheng, but I'll look up the others.

>>1479559
Well that's just like, your opinion man.

>>1479559
i think they're just talking styles here.
but i agree, his girls are stretched and too skinny for my taste.

>>1479567
Although they're stretched and skinny, he still has a very clear comprehension of anatomy, especially in his shading. I personally draw my characters more filled out, but I still look up to him as an artist.

So that Shinobu pic I was working on opened up to this today. I was less than an hour from finishing it too, I just had to add final details.
I hate life.

>>1479673
lel

no backups?

>>1479674
I have one, from five hours ago. I really don't think I have the motivation in my current mood to work for another 5 straight hours right now.

feedback?

animuu versions of famous paintings?

>>1479958
the legs look weird they are in a no natural position unless you have them dislocated

Also the chest seems too small to me. These things really have been bugging me.

Someone plz point me in the right direction, I know I really fucked up somewhere and not just self-conscious/paranoid.

>>1480077
Not sure if you wanted to draw a female body but it looks like a dude.

The female body is smooth has a lot less defined muscles. All your hard edges and angular forms make her either a female body builder or a slim man. If you want a more feminine body you need to add more fat to the buttocks and widen the pelvis

>>1480010
I'm watching stranger...

I just done this page of a try of hentai manga, what you think /ic/? I'm not sure about the painting...

>>1480103
Oh yeah, totally was going for a male body with a feminine face, Like Griffith from Berserk but not as built.

>>1480010
I bet those asses are soft, buryfaceinbuttcheeks/10
>>1480107
Moar pussy juice and drool!

>>1479958
it's a boring and retarded pose in general.
don't let you limited abilities decide what you are going to draw, otherwise you will never improve.

you have to think more practically. "what you see is what you get", so use your eyes for once and tell me what you see with this image.
what is she even doing?
she looks like she's falling but her pose completely looks like she is kneeing on the ground.

so what went wrong?
the answer: you didn't put a single real tought into the presentation of the piece. you just created whatever you thought you were able to draw.
you have to strech yourself more. try to create depth with your poses. try to create livelyness or clarity with your poses.

everything but this kind of "what the fuck is happening? it looks uncomfortable." kind of feeling.

how do you even

just a quickie, need more practice wit this stuff.....

>>1480162
but If I look at the face features compared to a lot of anime, I am way off.... it doesn't even look hard.

>>1480105
hers an update
goin for dat oil painted look

>>1480166
looks for like dat airbrush look

>>1480166
>>>1480162
i don't know who you are but i still hate the way you draw bodies.
it's neither feminine nor is it appealing in any way.
the head and neck is so simple yet you make the body so distinctive in such a uncanny way.

why do you always make the lower legs so short?
why do you always make the arms so short?
why does your only focus seem to be having a giant and broad ass?
honestly it just reminds me of CHICKEN.

for gods sake please, start drawing human beings.

>>1480166
>Dem cheeks

I may be following you on Tumblr already, your style looks familiar. But if not, care to share?

>>1480172
>why does your only focus seem to be having a giant and broad ass?

>>1480172
but muh style

that's just how they turn out when I draw from imagination
I just like chicken girls a guess

here's a scan of my sketch book

>>1480191
it's not about heads, it's about the body.
do you study the body too? the proportions, the relationship between each and every element?

try to draw contour drawings from imagination, that's agood way to get a grasp on proportions and to take a look on how you are used to create proportions.

Some lineart for a commission I'm working on.
I'll accept critiques, though I probably won't change this product but rather keep it in mind for future pieces.
>tfw knowingly just trying to get through commissions as quickly as possible
Feels bad, man.
But money feels good.

>>1480010
>>1480166
Aw man, I was hoping you were drawing a busty oppai flandre for a second
>disapointment.png
It still looks pretty awesome though! I hope I'm able to eventually get to the point of drawing fapable characters... One day...

>>1480206
You should bring the left eye a little closer to the line of the nose and decrease it's size slightly. The right boot's heel is sticking out too much, tuck it in a little. You should either erase that right hand completely or redraw it, right now it looks like her pinky is connected directly to her wrist or at least like her palm is about the size of the width of her fingers.

>>1480217
Mmkay, thank you.

>>1480206
i looks a bit like you know how to draw single things, but have problems placing em at the right spot with the right size.

quick fix: nose a little more right, right eye further left, right tit moved minimal up and to the right, shrinked the legs by about 10% and moved kneecaps to edge of skirt (hip and everything below just looks too big compared to the rest of the body). kept orginal size of pic, so you can switch between pics for better comparision

>>1480230
instead of shrinking and moving only the legs, you could shrink the whole part under the belt about 10%, so the skirt doesnt look so big.

>>1480166
I'd be interested if you posted a small tutorial on how you render.

Illustudio or Sai?

>>1480459
Do you still have jump through a bunch of hoops to get Illuststudio working? I heared Manga Studio 5 has a lot of it's functions.

>>1480230
What fixes should I make before I start coloring?

>>1480601
Didn't mean to link

>>1480601
Do you by any chance have a higher res version of this? Sorry, I'm old and so are my eyes.

Also, not sure if you planned on keeping the text as is, but check Font Squirrel for some free to use fonts.

cant decide if I should go with the blue rim light or not

also I made the arm and lower leg longer

anime is dumb just like the folks who think it's not

>>1480742

okay

>>1480697
That neck looks thick.

>>1480742
;_;

>>1480725
NO

>>1480725
I've seen you post stuff before. The way you draw faces puts me off really hard. They come off as brain damaged to me.

>>1480601

>>1480802
Where is the light source? You should be more definitive of where the light is coming from and use harder shadows.

>>1480725
>>1480793
yes, it will be so buh-yoo-ti-ful.

>>1480793
Why aren't these girls making ahegao faces?
>>1480725
Why aren't their eyes rolling back?

What are some good facial expressions that yanderes make? Whenever I draw yanderes, they always seem very flat.

>>1480820
tinyurl com /ngxfksq

>>1480802
>>1480805
I tried to define it a bit more.
Is that fine or should I make it more obvious?

>>1480211
I was thinking about making it touhou themed
maybe I should roll with that.

here's a another gif I made

>>1480844

Boobs aren't rubber nor do they bounce like that

Is this considered a lilbit mangu?
I'm pretty sure the cloth is fucked, as well as the wrists

>>1480858
Forgot pic sorry

how should i shade/detail this hair?
i tried doing it where i shade each piece with light and dark lines, but i didn't like the way it came out

>>1480846
They sort of bounce like that. He's just got too much of it.

>>1480844
I think it should slow down to one or two bounces after the first/biggest one. Slower and less bounce to them as they settle. Which is quick. It's fat, not rubber, as the other anon said.

Pushing my breasts up as far as I can and letting them go, it takes them one second and two bounces to settle. Dunno if that helps.

>>1480868
Look up James Gurney's ribbon method. That's how you should do it.

>>1480860
Her arms are too short
Crossbow is a 2D cardboard cutout
Dem quadriceps
Somewhat unbalanced pose
Not mangoo

Thought I share, would like to see more of your gifs too.

>>1480869
Not being a DFC must be really helpful for drawing breasts.
>looks down sadly

>>1480697
I've seen your posts for awhile. You are getting better.

>>1480891
Aw.

There are breast drawing tutorials in the sticky resources. I recommend finding a model, but if that isn't possible then pictures will do. 3d.sk is good for a range of different kinds that aren't plastic looking. Porn is good for animation/figuring out how they squish and move, but I'd say be wary about the fake ones.

>>1480885
Nice!
Was this made in Easytoon?

>>1480885
the spine looks to rigid

>>1480697
>>1480892
Thank you, that hand is killing me and so are the placement of the eyes.

Oh well, time for some shut eye.

>>1480906
So draw more hands. There's a set of a ton of pictures of hands in the sticky. Go through them and study them, starting with 30 second gesture and increasing the time every few pictures. By the end it should be something like 30 minutes per hand - that's when you study. So maybe that will help.

For eye placements, have you tried the method loomis recommends, with the box?

By the way, the top of the ear lines up with the top or middle of the eye, I forget which. It's late. Go look in the mirror or at another person or your reference or something, you'll figure it out. Bottom of the ear to the nose.

The headset thing should be enclosing her ears, if that helps. Though yours look a tad small.

The foreshortening on her arm is strange. I like that ass though. You really are getting better.

>>1480725
just why are you not sketching out the hair before going this far?
are you purposefully trying to make it look like chicken?

>>1480844
Heh, 2hu would be awesome but I wouldn't stop you from doing it either way. Whatever it is im looking forward to seeing it finished

doodling hard

>>1479501
Reworked the fabric of the skirt, turned down the vibrance and fixed the legs (I think).

I-is this okay?

>>1480972
What the fuck is going on with her legs.

>>1480972
Your folds look fine, but why is she smuggling odd lumpy shapes beneath her skirt? Material bunches up when it has something beneath it or is being held a certain way, but the shapes suggest that there is something on her lap rather than a natural flow of the fabric.

Legs look a bit wooden to me, but the skirt is more distracting imo. I don't like the black outline on her chin/jaw area, and I think if you must outline it should be with a color that looks good next to her skin tone. The sakura petals are also a bit shoddy and could use some refinement, but I assume you're not done with this piece yet so I'm not going to berate you for it.

>>1480978
>>1480975
I'm stuck on how to make the legs look right and I only painted the background roughly, since the figure is more important. Should I just crop the legs out?

Thanks for the comment on the chin line also

>>1480972
>hiding hands
>those legs/hips
i can't make out the form of her hips underneath the dress with the legs like that.
also her knees should be already visible if we measure the proportions.

>>1480982
Ah that's right, the kneecaps are missing. I know what to do now, thanks.

>>1480983
her legs look too big. It's confusing since the form of her leg doesnt show through the dress (which it should so I have no idea whats going on.

>>1480972
Did you draw the folds randomly? the folds show whats happening underneath the fabric, where the bolds gather is the point of tension,
this suggests to me that there are knees over there or thighs, i cannot figure, but then the fabric suddenly goes down like there is nothing there

and then there are some flat things that shape do not even resembles legs and you cant figure if its the upper leg or the lower leg. In general
you screwed up big time there, just finish it and move on because you will have to redo half the thing, read about fabric and folds and maybe legs,

yes in anime legs can be simplified and yes they can be symbolical but you must give to your viewers some hints to understand whats going on there,
you must understand some muscles and some shapes, not to make your drawing more realistic but to be able to show what you want easily.

The moment you have to explain whats going on in your drawing with words is the moment that you've lost the game.

>>1479512

Just ghibli? Man... i like the stylized works of studio 4°C. Or the people who are behind redline, or paprika.

>>1480969
Awesome nigga

>>1480725

As well as it's rendered, there's a pretty big problem with the poses. I don't know how loosely you planned to draw it, but the source had a lot more movement.

It clearly illustrates the situation, but yours, I had no idea what was going on. The faces don't help either lol.

>>1480969
I'll always be watching you

>>1480972
the way you drew the dress makes It look like she has a raging hard-on.

i've been trying ...

>>1481241
The rendering is really good, but the drawing looks like something from Cartoon Network.

>>1481241

The rendering is good. But why have you crossbreed a human and a Grey?

Did this. l feel frustrated.

>>1481302
thats because you like everyone else in this thread is trying to fly before they can walk properly, enjoy your cancer.

>>1481309
That describes all of /ic/ pretty well. What a useless thing to say.

Also you're underestimationg things. Stylizing is not as easy as it looks like. You need a lot of experience to make it look good

>>1481309
>thats because you like everyone else in this thread is trying to fly before they can walk properly


this unhealthy attitude is exactly why you will forever crawl at rock bottom.

>never try to have fun
>never draw from imagination
>only study
>never try to apply your studies
>always be afraid of failure

Good luck with all that, buddy.

>>1481343
That's /ic/ for you. You don't often see people complaining about getting stressed and burned out by art, until you come here.

>>1481363
I admit I have posted on here before that I was getting burned out but I got over it, and am drawing more of Miku.

Sometimes you just have to let it out somewhere, more specifically to people who have been through that phase and understand what you're going through.

It's not a pretty feeling but I believe if you draw through it you'll learn to love it :3

(:>

>>1481302

??

>>1480972

I think its great honestly You have a great skill at rendering to a completed looking product and your color choice is p cool.
i honestly dont know much about fabrics so this is the best i could do with the dress, i would just recommend copying directly from a google image search of a dress or something.
Also i thought the face could use a lil changing.

but yeah, the lighting and color and atmosphere is tops, keep it up!

>>1480972
Apart from the obvious leg mishap, i think that the perspective is a bit off.
>parallel lines
Unless im not seeing it right

>>1481220
t-that's creepy a-anon.

>>1481385
Cute'n'curvy, but that bodice is kind of dumb and nonsensical with the way you've drawn the breasts which look as if they're jutting from her torso rather than naturally set.

>>1481417
>>1481131
I never fully understood what went on under the skirt myself and I tried to fix as much as I can, but I realise It can never be perfect now; so I suppose I will move on and learn from my mistakes this time.

Thanks a bunch for the hidden construction which I really should have done from the beginning, as well as everyone who criticised.

>>1481742
you need to change that drape too. Give it the form of the leg. It's drooping down right now where the leg should be, hence there seem to be nothing undernethe the dress. I would suggest next time draw a rough dress-less leg first, then put a dress over it

>>1481766
this especially

>>1480725
My biggest complaint about this is: what the hell is going on here?! Why are they making those ahegao-faces (that you made exceptionally retarded looking, btw)?

Drawings from imagination and vilppu.
Today marks the 5th month from when I first started drawing.

How's it coming along guys? I want it perfect before I attempt to color/ draw clothing on the guy.

Really want to know:
>How's the lineart
>How's the proportions

Also, anyone got any sort of watercoloring tutorial/ advice on it via PS?

>>1480885
is old

>>1482488
Face extremely androgynous, is this intended? If yes, then good job, otherwise shame on you.

>>1482497
yes

My sister stormed into my room last night yelling at me and shit and took my phone from me and left. I then drew this. Of course yhis isn't my best, but id still like yo know what i can improve on.

>>1482515
Sorry about that tilt

>>1482515

READ STICKY, NOW!

Draw a girl and add a penis. Now it is a trap.

>>1482534
but that's wrong there's a vagina under that ball sack

>>1482538
Nope. Futa is pig tier. Traps besto

>>1482539
you never took away the vagina you just added a penis

>>1482540
True, true. I should be more specific next time. Be sure to not draw a vagina and replace boobs with pectorals too.

Well, I keep trying to get to grips with my tablet

>>1482605

my latest big butt chicken girl

>>1482488

Is that Griffith

>>1482726

You've got a a solid construction technique, but is there any particular reason you draw the legs so short aside from fetishism?

here is the shit I hide in my sketchbook.

I plan on fleshing out this gesture into something awesome.

>>1482761
jesus

and I thought doing drawing studies of club sluts was bad

>>1482748
I guess it's muh fetish.

but don't get me wrong i like long slender legs too but my love for giant stumpy thunder thighs is too strong.

I plan on fleshing out this gesture into something awesome.

Fixed the rotation. Stupid iPod.

>>1482747
No but I'd be lying if i said Griffith didn't come to mind for me also.

what settings do ya guys use for sketching in photoshop? what about line-ing?

>>1482761
Dump more delicious cake plz

>>1480172
Ever heard of personal preference? Is he allowed to draw girls with short limbs?

>>1482790
I don't do anything special. Just set the paintbrush to 3-4 on a big canvas and flick. Then erase, erase,erase,erase, that kind of shit.

Sometimes though I use the pen tool for shit I want to rush but it looks kinda unnatural if I don't do anything else to it.

>>1482805
This is what I do and I guess it looks somewhat similar. Must be that I'm fairly new to using a tablet and that I am extremely critical of my own shit.
Thanks

>>1482801
no.

>>1482805
Hard round brush with pressure set to size at 5px.

>>1482805
Me again. I should also mention the specifics.

Hard brush with pressure set and size it around 3-4. Sometimes though I tend to cut the roundness to 12% and rotate it depending on how/where I'm planning on stroking. Preference i guess because not sure myself how it helps me out.

>>1482806
Critical is good.Eventually you'll go from panicy critical to just pissy about details critical. And tablet takes getting used to, don't sweat it.

>>1482776

Yeah. I was unsure whether it was a habit that you had to overcome. Your work reminded me of how I used to unintentionally draw short stacks because I had trouble with leg proportions. I wanted to be sure that you didn't need any advice, since you seem to have a great handle on what you are doing.

Sincerely,
>>1482778

>>1482814
I gotta give that a try more often. I just have problems with opacity/ flow diminishing. Any advice on how to stop that?

>>1482831
nvm just found it, polite sage since I'm just taking up space now.

>>1482805
I start out with a 10px for very rough shapes and forms, then I add details with 7px and finally make lineart with fine strokes from 3px or 4px.

ps: hard round, minimum size 0%, roundness 0%, minimum opacity 60%-70%

>>1482839
Damn homie, I love how you got your routine all sorted out. Stealing.

Also just curious. How do you guys feel about using the pen tool to line art?

>>1482852
It feels kind of rough and awkward to me, but that might just be because a lot of people don't do it right.
Even when i do backgrounds, I get my straight lines with the pen tool first, then trace over every single one with a 3px brush. It's just a tiny difference, but it just makes my background feel a lot closer to my drawn character, and looks less mediocre, if that follows any logic at all.

>>1482778

キリキリ

thanks to /ic/ and all the loomis, and hogarth i've ingested, i can't draw animu anymore, i can't even colour animu like either.
what have you done to me /ic/!?
i can only do semi-realism now.
how do i animu proportion and animu colours like tony taka, po-ju, obata takeshi or ishikei?

>>1482936

Use what you've learned and analytically study their work. It's not hard once you have the fundamentals down like you say you do.

>>1482936
You're welcome. Go read a manga or something.

>>1482936
you've been doing too many detail studies and not enough loose sketching.
and just remind yourself to draw more 'cartoony' than you're comfortable with.
sometimes that breaks the spell.

>>1483049
>Breaks the spell

GREETINGS ANIMU! I AM FROM THE OUTER THREADS, AND I'VE COME WITH GOOD NEWS.

You can know how to draw realistically and adopt the anime style (see Takehiko Inoue). In fact drawing realistically can only empower you in finding you own voice because you are not limited by bad draftsmenship and are able to analyze the design decisions of your favorite anime/mango.

See picture, I can't into anime all that well but my ability to recognize proportion (life drawing) and my basic knowledge of the figure and folds (LIFE DRAWING) enables me to at least ape it.

Just, just keep drawing, be critical, anime is just cartooning.

>>1483049
>Breaks the spell

GREETINGS ANIMU! I AM FROM THE OUTER THREADS, AND I'VE COME WITH GOOD NEWS.

You can know how to draw realistically and adopt the anime style (see Takehiko Inoue). In fact drawing realistically can only empower you in finding you own voice because you are not limited by bad draftsmenship and are able to analyze the design decisions of your favorite anime/mango.

See picture, I can't into anime all that well but my ability to recognize proportion (life drawing) and my basic knowledge of the figure and folds (LIFE DRAWING) enables me to at least ape it.

Just, just keep drawing, be critical, anime is just cartooning.

>alivarry stregthened

>>1483062
well why don't you stay in those outer threads.
why are you talking like a goddamn faggot when you don't know what i'm trying to say anyway?

he's talking about a certain habit that happens when you focus too much on unneeded realism when sketching. practicing realism for cartooning will always bring you more and more into semirealistic territories. and if you overdo it you'll tend to forget how to go back to the more expressive ways. it's just about finding a balance to create a good style.
and i basically told him to draw more freely and loosely to get back into it.

this isn't about "fundamentals and realism solves everything" you damn noob.

>>1483070
Your folds are pretty mediocre; not much better than someone that has drawn anime their whole life and never studied from life. Your anatomy is a bit better, but not worht bragging about like you have. I'd say study some more before you start acting high and mighty

>>1483082
Pretty sure that post was sarcastic, I mean that picture he posted was laughably bad.

>>1483076
Fucking calm down, I didn't kill your dog Mr.edgy.

The whole point was that the ability to draw in different styles don't evaporate when you try something else. I was just trying to encourage the another anon not to throw out everything he's learned.
>>1483082
>>1483087
Oh here we go, this was a 15 minute sketch while I was chatting on skype. If it makes that upset do better than me.

Sup doods, Usually I'm not one for stylizing or drawing anything that looks animu. Though I thought Id give it a try. Y/N back to the drawing board?

It's nice to have a change of pace erry once in awhile.

>>1483114
pretty sweet, gonna finish it?

>>1483114
Wow, your faces are a lot better than they used to be. Nice.

>>1483082
Why are there so many haters in /ic/ ???

>>1483116


Its like 90 in my room and I'm sweating my balls off so, Eh I keep working on it until my brain burns out from the heat.

>>1483117
Thanks, I "slowed down" and it seems to have fixed alot of the fucked up nonsense in my drawings.

>>1479512
I am not - and never was - a fan of anime/manga.

>>1482791
No no. But I'm glad ya like muh style even though its somethin' terrible.

>>1482534
oh, coffee

don't really know if this belongs in this thread but since it's semi realistic I guess it does.

I'm literally trying to learn how to color right now and it hurts. I actually couldn't sleep because I kept thinking ohshitohshithowthe shit am I gunna do this? Also images of shitty colored art from deviantart and google kept running through my mind.

almost 2:30am but I won't be able to sleep until I make acceptable progress, whatever the fuck it may be I NEED HELP!!

>>1483400
Nice

>>1483403
learn to render in monochrome first if you still haven't.

>>1483403
>Also images of shitty colored art from deviantart and google kept running through my mind.

heh

>>1483405
My nigga, thx for that. Read it somewhere but slipped my bloody mind.

>>1483403
an easy first time guide goes

if the light is warm then the shadow is cool and vice versa. generally the light is cool outdoors, and warm indoors.

the shadow is also complimentary to the light, if the light is yellow the shadow is purple for example. mixed to varying degrees with the local colour that is. if you're worried about the colour of like highlights or shadows and you just want to make sure you get the value right to begin with you can use another layer like overlay to colour the shadows post factum.

and remember to use the full value range.

Does anyone know how you would go about drawing this eye type from any angle?

The size of the iris and pupil is throwing me off.

>>1479501
Downloaded the torrent in OP, should I watch/read this shit in any particular order?
I'm very new to drawing.

First time in this board. I decided to get into drawing mango as a hobby starting today. I have no past experience drawing other than doodling in class. I must say there is a huge feeling of accomplishment when what I draw turns out okay. Pic is my first serious practice sketch. The biggest problem I have is drawing things that look the same like eyes, I always mess it up on the other side.

Someone teach show me how to draw animu eyes looking upwards. This is impossible.

>>1483571
When the head is tilted upwards, I mean

>>1483571
Like this?

>>1483586
More animu, and a bit more tilted too

>>1483587

More uguu, you mean

which butt design should I go with?

>>1483586
>Eyes looking up
>Lower curve exeeds the upper one
Seems legit.

which butt should i go with?

pantsu with garter belt, bows and frills

or plain mode?

>>1483601
i want to break down and cry everytime i see you draw legs

>>1483603
why? because they look so delicious?

>>1483607
that does look delicious.
of course i'm talking about the real chicken here, not your fake ones.

>>1483601

If you go with garterbelt at least learn how they work first.

>>1483601
The first looks better just because it has more. It depends on the character you are going with.

>>1483607
He, heh...

>>1483621
silly faggot... these threads are all about shortcuts and not having to learn how anything works

>>1483601
Definitively with garter belt, loves me some sexy classy underwear! But I feel that the angles of your lines particular piece of garment is a bit off... steals some shapes/volume!

>>1483571

How to draw any eye at any angle forever.

Note: I'm at work. I had to work stupid fast and I'm not technically proud of this, but I hope this helps you out.

1. Draw two balls. Simple. The simplified form of an eye is a sphere. Draw them in perspective and keep them on an axis of relationship that goes through them. This will help you keep the perspective solid.

>>1483637

2. Determine the directional axis. There are several ways to achieve this: perspective arrows work well. I use wrapping lines. Draw ellipses as a wrapping line around the eye for both the horizontal and vertical axis. Note: never draw a cross without mentally or physically establishing your directional axis. This will bite you in the ass later on.

>must learn how to draw porn asap
>must draw my waifu
>must animu

>>1483625

B-but how is she gonna take off the panties without properly put on garterbelts...

>>1483641

3. Determine the orbit plane. The orbital plane is a simplified plane that combines the orbits of the skull (see: the cavities in which the eyes are socketed into) and sit back into the skull. Establishing the plane will help you give your eyes depth and even help you place the epicanthic fold for Caucasoids. Eyes are never placed on a flat surface.

>>1483649
I feel like this is already too much for animu eyes, man.

>>1483653
isnt it literally the same as their eyes any other time, except the irish is looking upward?

>>1483649

4. Place the epicanthic fold and draw in the anterior chamber shapes for the eyes, which cover the pupil, iris, cornea. The eyes can be tackled in many different ways. The anterior chamber can either be thought of as concave or convex. Either is a viable approach. I make mine convex, since it simplifies lighting. Follow this video for further details regarding the handling of the chamber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6-bCgRmcko

DO NOT DRAW YOUR EYEBROWS AS I HAVE DONE HERE. They were incorrectly scribbled in and I never erased them. Again, the video I provided gets the job done in explaining a lot of what I'm saying, including eye brows.

>>1483659
I think once you are attempting to bring the eye sockets into play(particularly the eye sockets of a fucking anime skull which is stretched to hell and back), you are overcomplicating things.

>>1483653
>>1483662


I'm getting there. Be patient.

>>1483661

5. Draw lids. The lids should be treated as wrapping lines. Keep your eye lashes directional. Individual hairs should never be drawn individually, and you should always take measures to simplify the eye lash masses as best you can. A general rule of thumb: individual eye lash masses are normally never seen from the front and are far more pronounced with both makeup and a side view perspective.

>>1483668

6. Memorize, minimize, modify. The "draw the rest of the fucking owl" step.

The biggest a-ha! moment for me was when I discovered that most artists memorize their process so they can do it in their head on the fly with using less and less assistance from guidelines, wrapping lines, and essentially most construction. Construction always has its place, but many animation and anime studies use very simple design processes on paper while many of the technical thoughts remain just that: thoughts.

This was an eye I drew yesterday. It looks much more Disney than it does asian, but it gets my point across: the biggest challenge to drawing simply and anime-y is to break down an otherwise incredibly complicated process into smaller parts and commit enough small parts to muscle memory and background processes so that you can draw those kawaii K-ONs you wanna draw so much.

>>1483668
not animu fag, but this acutally helps alot with any eyes, thanks

>>1483677

Thanks. I probably would have made it a lot better if it weren't for the fact that I had to do this all during my lunch break. Lol

May I have some feedback?

>>1483684
You sir is doing okay... but I think the nostrils look a little weird .-.

>>1483675
K-on!! :D

>>1483684
The nostrils are too far to the sides of the nose. Other than that it's pretty good. Maybe add some colours to the lips?

>>1479501
that feel when hentai has better art than actual manga/anime

>>1483684
her iris are too big i think, and that color makes them blend in too much

I started drawing a forest elf lady.
I need to add more twigs and leaves and shit into her hair, I think.

>>1483699
I think, it's something wrong with her right side.

It's no where near finished, but I can't wait to work on this more when I get home.

>>1483699
This is nice, anon, but your values are rather flat. It's noticeable if you make the image black and white in Photoshop.

Just getting in to drawing.

>>1483699
I feel we should be able to see a lil' more of the right side of her face...

>>1483783
Oh, and also did some other tiny adjustments with my limited ability... But that hand, or what ever it is... Ditch it!

>>1483571

>>1483804

Thanks Teal. Good stuff for me to ponder on.

No him, by the way. I'm the guy who helped him originally.

>>1483528
Download the torrent from OP, read the sticky, put off drawing anibu/manbo for a while so you don't develop "muh style" or gimmick reliant tendencies.

>>1483804
What if drawing certain features (like that of the cheekbones) help to visualize it as a 3D form, and it's an stylistic choice to not draw those features in profile/front?

>>1483826

That depends. Is the geometry actually there?

Speaking broadly, if it's a conscientious decision, then there are rarely any wrong answers in art. But in animation, more specifically anime or Disney features that hew closer to a physical reality, sensible and consistent geometry is important. We must also be careful to distinguish a change in geometry with a change in lighting; your hypothetical example, if found in anime, is most likely a change in lighting condition only.

The bottom line is, if you are drawing something that isn't there, then it's pretty much symbolism. And in animation, that can actually be okay. Most TV animation done in flash nowadays cannot be turned, but they still look good enough (but, they also shy away from the dynamic composition one would find in traditional hand-drawn cartoons, and this is a limitation on the kind of stories they could tell.) But the OP specifically asked about anime eyes, and drawing it in perspective. It is important, then, to have an understanding of the head as a physical object. This is also a separate topic from deformation and smears, where going off-model is crucial.

>>1483851

Is there a specific a specific figure you use? I remember you a while back advocating Figmas.

>>1483826
whatimdoin

>>1483747

Going to go study more. Done for now.

>>1483860
T-that ridiculous skirt... Did Ryukishi finally learn to draw?

>>1483855
Not teal, but
As a figure collector, I find scales help the most, but that's because I have a ton of them in a variety of poses and angles. Figmas, anatomically are really messed up in a variety of ways, though it might work just for heads as teal had stated above. Posing, maybe. But otherwise, they're horrible for referencing.

>>1483855

I do not advocate Figmas. I advocate drawing figures, mannikins, toys, physical objects that you can manipulate you you can see the effects of perspective and lighting on form in real time. Figma just happens to have a deep catalog, so one is more likely to find a specific character, or characters sharing similar designs. It is a reasonably priced option, and second to owning actual maquettes.

>>1483687
>>1483691
>>1483694
Thanks!

>>1480885
Looks like she unnaturally walks.

>>1482726
Something seems so wrong with her ass-legs.

>>1482726
You don't post on your blog enough.

>>1483997
ill post something to day. an old sketch that I decided to color

>>1484022
DAYUM SON!

>>1484022
What is the link to your blog? I like your tastes in fat little girls.

>>1484022

Personally I like where you're going and you seem to want to get a grasp of figure drawing while doing the exaggerated stuff. Don't get complacent, push yourself.

I say keep doing what you're doing, just don't forget your vilppus and hamptons on the way.

You have the potential for some next level shit.

(draw a fat hipped girl with medium size perky boobies pls)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAIGb1lfpBw

>>1484022
Teach us your ways oh wise hentai wizard...

Seriously, that's incredible and I want to know how you did it. What books did you read, videos did you watch, everything....
I want to be you.

>>1483870
>T-that ridiculous skirt... Did Ryukishi finally learn to draw?
>learn to draw?
I kinda happy someone actually acknowledge I can doodle... thanks anon, you made my day

>>1484063
thanks, I've come a long way and I've got a long way to go, especially when it comes to scenery and clothing. I definitely don't want to get complacent. I get massive anxiety about my ability sometimes, which helps I guess.

>>1484029 http://kairunoburogu.. tumblr.com/


>>1484068 I really didn't read books or watch any tutorial videos or anything. I mainly figured stuff out from months of trial an error. watching streams of good artists might help a bit.

>>1484087
Really?! That's intense... I've been studying forever and wouldn't consider myself nearly as good. I mean, your line quality is clean, your coloring is pleasant, proportions work, everything is really solid.

(I might be a tad jealous)

>>1484068
Are you serious? It's not bad for what it is, but incredible? Has /ic/'s standards lowered that much?

>>1484100
Art is subjective son. I know it isn't the greatest piece ever, and not everyone is going to like it, but I really, really do. I like the line quality and the coloring is really solid. Compare to quite a few hentai artists this guy is pretty damn solid.

Just a reminder

You guys should have seen Chickenlegfag when he first started.

>>1484100
Whoever draw the most disgustingly fuckhuge tits and/or ass is the god among /ic/. Skill is secondary in that case.

>>1480906
Time to move on to a new drawing.

>>1484125
There's someone else that comes here sometimes that draws the same stuff, only bigger. Don't know if he's posted that, though.

>>1484126
i want you to be mikufag and say im proud of you

>>1484126

http://youtu.be/bSL4cmFW_GU

>>1484130
yeah thats our mikufag

was trying for something more videogame-ish
heavily relied on reference

>>1484216
>Phantom Brave
Fuck yeah.

You should work on those palm trees on the right - pic related. The leaves don't just shoot out of the trunk like that.

>>1484216
It might just be because I'm a sucker for landscapes, but I think it looks fantastic.

>>1484216
Holy lord, that landscape is amazing

>>1484216
I love the lagoon and the character, not a huge fan of the foliage though

Hi this is my first post in anime/cartoon thread.

How to redraw my picture into pure black lines? I'm using gimp and drawing on new layer isn't good enough.
I know that this picture isn't drawn well, but please critique it. Head is supposed to be 1/3 of body.

Oi've goit an idea, foarmin' in my head...

>>1484148
I see what you did th.ere :3

>>1484266
Please respond.

>>1484266
Create a new layer on top of sketch and use long, smooth strokes to outline your sketch in black. It's as good as you can get.

>>1484324
Is that how all anime/cartoon artists do?
I have problems with doing the same strokes as I did for first sketch.

>>1484341
Practice

>>1484341
I am not detecting any discernible strokes, it's all chicken scratch to me. You can always recreate it by tracing over it, or learn to get it right the first time.

didn't really turn out that well, but here it is anyway

So how do you guys draws heads, yes etc? I try to follow Loomis, Hampton but there is no measurement anywhere to draw those things from different angles. Is this one of those "You have to feel it" things? It certainly feels so. Like i just turn the head to side and i how no idea where to place the eyes or chin already.

>>1484341
There is no technique that "all artists" use, they each have their own way of doing things. Some don't even line their sketches and go straight to coloring.
It all depends.

>>1484419
What books are you reading? Pretty sure loomis covers it

>>1484419
learn perspective.

>>1484393
Are you going to detail the hands? Or is she wearing mittens or something?

>>1484324
What about now?

>>1484464
Learn to vary your line weight

>>1484491
That's slightly opposite to desired effect in this picture and to my earlier question.

>>1484504
If you wanted a uniform black line you should make the lines thicker for the cartoony effect. Your strokes aren't smooth enough for that anyway and a varying line weight usually makes a picture more interesting: see: your previous sketch.
Also, hide your underlying sketch to see how your lines actually look like.

>>1484517
My lines are bad enough without red lines under them.

>If you wanted a uniform black line you should make the lines thicker for the cartoony effect.
Good to know.

>>1484535
>My lines are bad enough without red lines under them.
If you know that then fix that shit. Good lineart is important, especially for this sort of style

>>1484542
I have no idea how, that's why I asked on /ic/.

>>1484549
Well one thing you could do is study the original Spleunky style and see how they do it.

>>1484642
Thank you for advice.
10/10 game.

>>1479501
>Skype
Are you telling me I can find a qt mangaka gf here?

>>1485085
I-I can be your mangoko gf anon..

Can anyone give me some critique?

I've already finished with this commission, but I think I fucked up the torsos big time. Plz critique so I don't make the same mistakes in the future.

>>1485276
how much do u charge for that?

I want to draw cute girls doing cute things but for now I practice anatomy.

>>1485287
Only 30$ for cel shade like that, since it takes only an hour or two.

>>1485298
only 30? how much can u make on a month? xD and its all yaoi related?

>>1485301
>xD
I make, on average, $15 an hour. I draw whatever commissioner wants. Please don't derail the thread with commission questions.

>>1485304
how many hours a week dawg

>>1485244
You should be an character designer for animay! :)

>>1485366
Wow! His glasses turn into a SNES controler! Awesome!

>>1480972
>>1480978
>>1480979
>>1480982

This. Also, her mouth and nose look fucked up.. Drawing Reimu in your style just doesn't suit her man.

How do i draw heads? I just don't know anymore. I have been drawing those Loomis spheres, slicing it and it always ends like shit. I just can't "feel it". I have drawn many of them. Animu and more realistic and i just can't do it.

It's just feels like every line must be perfect or it will be shit, yet i have seen people doodling it randomly and it looks much better.

>>1485298
>$30

jiminy crickets

>>1485530
Are you actually thinking about proportions when you do them? If you think you've drawn many of them you obviously haven't drawn enough

Keep on truckin' boys

>>1485562
I have drawn few hundred of them in last few months and i still draw the same. Does it really need to go in thousand to get basics down?

And I "think in proportions". Whatever that means. But there are only rules for front and profile view. And i know of no way to draw on other angles because apparently you just have to "feel it". And i can't.

I just want to get better and i don't know how or even if i can.

>>1485571
dude, use references. You can't draw anything if you don't know what it looks like in the first place

>>1485569
>nokidleftbehind.jpg

>>1485541

Should I change the price? I just went off the average that I saw.

>>1485574
Reference for what? Anime or realistic? So the only way is just memorize every possible angle then?

>>1485579
>implying motivating the masses is a bad thing

>>1485580
That's fine, as long as people are willing to pay for it. Don't lower your prices because some chucklefuck on 4chan tells you to.

>>1485586
Would never lower prices, was wondering if it was too low actually.

>>1485584
Everything. You don't have to "memorize" per se, just use references for anything you don't know, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as you don't straight up copy.
Here:
http://shattered-earth.deviantart.com/art/The-BASICS-Using-References-255875213

>>1485588
Oh, then just think about how much you should be paid per hour.

>>1485590
But i want to draw using construction... I see 13yo kids on dA sketching this shit properly in 30s. And i won't get reference for any angle and different type of eyes etc anyway.

>>1485596
>And i won't get reference for any angle and different type of eyes etc anyway.
>google "eyes"
BOOM
>google "head references"
BAM
The magic of the internet

Did you read Vilppu? Did you learn how construction actually works instead of just drawing circles with lines in them and hoping you'll magically improve the more you draw?
You need to practice, yes, but you also have to learn when you practice.

>>1485602
Either you are telling me to always use reference or memorize every angle or you don't really know anything. And i told you i'm working with Loomis.

But thanks anyway. I wasn't expecting any help here but just wanted to try anyway.

>>1485607
Loomis isn't the holy bible of all that is art, Vilppu might be your guy if you want to learn construction.

I'm saying that use references to AID you. Did you even read the link I posted? If you don't know, how to draw something, look up referenceS. Study those references, draw them, and eventually your brain would have amassed a bunch of knowledge on how to draw without looking at references.

could use some help about the overall balance

>>1485276
blonde one isn't too bad but the perspective is definitely messed up somewhere, especially his back. I think if you had tilted his hips and legs a bit to side, maybe have the knees closer together, and reduced the size of his legs a little it would've seem less off.

wait, is that pico and chico?

Sup guys, I'm really interested in art therapy, or rather, art and what how it affects/is affected by the mind. Basically how people express themselves into their art and such. Was hoping some of you could answer a couple questions.

1)Do you guys use references for your work, or do you just draw from what you know about anatomy?

2)Do any of you use traditional, non-digital mediums? Pencil, chalk pastel, charcoal, acrylic, oil, tempura (just kidding on the last one...)

3)Any of you like to incorporate more subtle detals to characters, like eye depth, nose definition? Subtle hit of muscle or bone structure protruding through the skin?

4)Draw in any other styles, such as realism, abstract, nonobjective, or even 3D art, such as jewelry, glass/metal work, clay or other sculpture forms?

5)Ever create art while under the influence of mind altering substances?


On a a more positive note, have one of my favorite pics of Alice.

not really anime ish but ill post it anyway

>>1482761
I wonder if DaVinci had shit like that in his journals, but burnt it when he knew he was going to become something big. Although non-sexual nudes seemed to be the norm then, sexual ones would probably make the church ban-hammer you from society. Guy was so smart he had to have drawn porn. I don't even know why I'm rambling on so long about this. I'm going to sleep now. Bye.

>>1485723
I feel like the legs are too close in perspective to have that much of a size deference,
but its also so sketchy that i can be sure where her right leg ends.

this drawing pretty much sums up how I felt to day

its pretty meta

>>1485947
So you bukkake'd you're own face in a hot steamy afternoon?

>>1485928
Why post it in the animu thread?

>>1485947
califag?

>>1486072
oregon fag

I'm not use to this heat

I also colored chickbutt maid's butt today

>>1485927
1) I mostly use reference. I reference real models from stock images, they have some nice poses. If I don't use reference, I don't usually try to invent a pose, I either draw something I know well or reference my own body.

2) Yes, I use pencil and watercolors. I've tried most of the mediums, but I find pencil and watercolor to be the most appealing to me.

3) I usually define the collar bone, kneecaps and hip bones on my girls, and arm and leg muscles on my guys pretty well.

4) I draw realism too, and most of my art is semi-realism.

5) Nope, never. Never want to either. I dislike weed, because I hate how people act under weed, and it sickens me to know that I act like that too. I think I have drawn something while drunk, but it was shit.

>>1485927
1) I use references, but not as much as I should. I try to draw from what I've learned.
2) Yes. Pen and ink, watercolor. I'd like to try casein.
3) Try to.
4) I vary between iconic and semi-iconic styles. I've done some sculpture, but nothing all that good.
5) Nope.

>>1486125
What's your Tumblr/website/DA?

>>1486072
>>1486125
Step it up, I'm getting it far worse over in Arizona.

>>1484274
Damn, I really like your drawings. It always makes me want to watch Dirty Pair again every time I see it.

Thread is past the bump limit I think.

I'm starting to get the hang of drawing jizz.

>>1486125

You render really well, but I think you lose your gesture when drawing your stocky figures. She looks almost frozen in mid air. I'm curious to see where you are going with this.

Also, bampu since we are nowhere near the bump limit yet.

I'm trying to draw digitally but I always have trouble cleaning up the linework

Not anime, neither finished stuff, but whatever.
It goes from oldest to newest.
1/10

>>1487240
2/10

>>1487247
3/10

>>1487240
why post it in the anime thread then?

>>1487262
4/10

>>1487267
>>1487270
5/10
Cuz I started drawing animu, and these are the threads I lurk the most.

Thread has reached bump limit.

New thread
>>1487279
>>1487279
>>1487279
>>1487279

>>1487281

6/10

>>1486482
seconding this