/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Previous thread >>1466689

Thanks for answering those questions about getting a tablet, /ic/ I think I'll get a used one or a bamboo so I can get the hang of it before I get that Intuos.

Mkay /ic/ I've reviewed many of the recommended drawing books and such but I am feeling like my weakness is the arms. anyone have methods that might've helped them with the contours of the elbows?

Sorry in advance for the resolution, I just got my first tablet 3 days ago

This never gets old..
Containment board activated

>>1470846
My advice? Go draw some arms. Lots of them.

>>1470846
just like 99% of people that will post in this thread, you need to take a number of steps back and learn the basics before you attempt figurative work.

And just like 99% of the children posting in this thread you will continue to ignore that simple fact.

>>1470846
Her waist/hip seems too high.

any feedback before i proceed?

>>1470854
it's hard/ painful to realize this step. I'm sure you've been there before. I know I have. Luckily for me though, I didn't drops hundreds of dollars into a laptop/ wacom until I was sure I could draw shapes in perspective.

To anime/mango: learn to draw shapes in perspective, then learn to combine shapes in perspective.

miku, you're petting your lines into infinity. You're not engraving are you? adopt an overhand grip.

>>1470869

Too flat and tight, the pose has no gesture

The details aren't complete shit though

>>1470869
do yourself a favor and draw the hand holding the umbrella and draw the pelvic area under the skirt, b/c the legs look disjointed from the body.

>>1470838
Mikufag would you do me a favor and post one of your first Mikus you posted here? I feel like Jeff Goldblum in The Fly and and to see the comparison from then.

>>1470925
I still have all my drawings from when I first started to post here but I go through what you guys went through every time I see them and I cringe lol.

Oh cool I found something Lefty drew for me, I miss that guy he's a cool cat. One of my early drawing is there, somewhere behind the left figure.

>>1470929
Could I see one that isn't a draw-over? ;3c

>>1470929

Mikufag when I stumbled across this post and thought that was something you drew I almost had a stroke.

D-does anyone know how to draw anime heads?

Like how the chin is pointed; I can never get that right. . .

>>1470948
A lot of the time it's not the actual face shape that is out of place but rather how they position the eyes on the face that makes amateur animu faces look weird. Just try studying some artists you like.

>>1470935
I would rather not, but I am certain some of you may have saved some for future laughs :3

I went through the old stuff and it gave me goosebumps.

does GreyDeath maked a site or something to see his work?

I completely messed up right arm, shoes, and hands. I'd really appreciate some help if I could; maybe a red line for that, or for the whole goddamn thing.
I'm decently satisfied with the coloring though. I'm barely improving, but it's coming...

>>1470869
Is she falling, if so, shouldnt the umbrella be inside out?

>>1470991

I had some free time because I was prescribed adderall a few days ago so I redlined this for you.

EDIT: The guy that posted this artwork for redline deleted his post for some reason, but here's a few pointers if you ever come back.

You shouldn't be ashamed about your artwork whoever you are.

>>1470838
Daaang Mikufag, you're getting pretty good at drawing lately. Also Miku, would it hurt you to fill up yours eyes one and a while? Gives me the chills sometimes.

>>1471019
I wanted to, but I am still too afraid I would mess it up by getting it messy or smudging it.

I think I'll give it a shot tonight, and experiment with something like Lefty drew here. I really hate working in tight spaces like inside the eyes because it would be difficult to erase without accidentally erasing something else

>>1470838
Did you deliberately made some errors in your first miku post? Because it looks better now.

>>1471027
The one I deleted that was asking about if I was ready for a drawing tablet?

No it's the same exact one, same tittle and everything.

>>1471029
No, the first Miku you ever posted.

You definitely improved.

>>1471030
Thank you, I also remember when everyone jumped on me heheh good times.

I don't know where those black spots came from on my drawing and I just cleaned the scanner but oh well. The background noise got worse for some reason too.

elf girl

>>1471030
Thank you, I also remember when everyone jumped on me heheh good times.

I don't know where those black spots came from on my drawing and I just cleaned the scanner but oh well. I tried to fill in the eyes with something this time, hope it looks better now.

>>1471047

Here Mikufag, have a present.

c:

Fuck it, have another present Miku.

this thread gave me cancer

>>1471076
stay away from the designated cancer containment area then. this thread has a noble purpose ultimately.

>>1471041
What's going on around the chest area? Is that steel, cloth, or what? Is it overhanging her exposed chest? Is she wearing silly boob armour? Also is that loose cloth covering her shoulders or metal? Is she wearing a hood? The folds are very ambiguous also the way her feet are positioned she seems bowlegged.

>>1471079
these threads need a warning label

"This thread WILL give you cancer."

this is embarrassing

>>1471140

What the hell?

big improvement in one night.

Did you snort lines of adderall or something?

>>1471146
How is that improvement? He just used a different software with better line antialiasing and spent some time adding tonal values.

>>1471149
>>1471146
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to start something

>>1471152
>post work
>oh no, people are discussing it!
>delete it
Why the fuck are you even here.

>>1471153

he didn't delete it, it's still right there.

Working on a walk cycle. Comments and critiques are highly sought after. First time doing this and every time I try it seems terrible.

>>1471155
The swaying of the hands is kinda stiff.

>>1470948
There are some tips how to draw face from front and profile in many places but getting different angles is just experience. Draw it until you "get it".

>>1471155
cool, I'm working on an animation too

we should make our own tv show

>>1471068
>>1471069
Hahah awesome I like it, thanks for coloring it.

>>1471169
here's update.

I'm taking an animation class in the fall at my college. I want to practice so I can blow my scrub class mates out of the water. ( I have a feeling bronies are going to be in the class)

>>1471252
Really nice animation

>>1471155

when people walk, their heads and hips bob up and down. her hair and her skirt and arn't moving at all, it looks super stiff. her hips arn't moving at either, make the bow and apron on her back rotate back and forth with her hips. you need more secondary motion in general. also I'd advice not using a stickman mannequin, use spherical forms instead. also all those details in the ruffles are going to look weird in motion if you don't take their location into consideration each frame. (considering how many you have on that dress, it would be a ton of work, so simplify your drawing if your not up the task.)

>>1471252
I appreciate the patience animation guys can put into these. For me getting a single set of lines done is painful enough, let alone doing a whole bunch of frames

>>1471253
I started about the same time as mikufag and now he's better than me. D:

That's what I get for not drawing every day.

I started about the same time as mikufag and now he's better than me. D:

That's what I get for not drawing every day.

>>1471318
What did his art look like before?

>>1471318
You must be horrific

>>1471321
Good grief, lol

I remember drawing this, I was pretty proud of it too. I had no direction at the time before Loomis and Vilppu.

>>1471324
This was on 1/26/13 on 7:10 PM according to the file.

>>1471334
oops, didn't mean to quote.

>>1471326
Doing anime and stuff in between studies to keep myself from getting bored.

>>1471326
ahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahahah
cough cough
ahahahahhahahhahhahhahahahahhhahah

>>1471334

Clean up your linework friend.

If your sketch is too sketchy you can't really call it a sketch now can you?

>>1471361
BUT HES THE NEXT ETHMEH DONT U SEE HES SO GOOD II WISH I HAD HIS ETHIC #inspiried #/ic/buildsartists ##

>>1471361
What's your progress in this half year? Miku at least learns.

>>1471318
I started at the same time but i can't compare because he doesn't post much. At least i can make eyes:P

>>1471334
Yup that's what I do too :3

Doing this at work now, it's about time I stopped neglecting perspective and just do it.

Cell phone camera is tilted a bit...

>>1471401
Miku you draw a lot? Does it take you long now to draw this?

>>1471403
I draw whenever the given opportunity is there, I work seven days a week from eight to six and I don't have much leisure time unless either business is slow or when I get back home after work.

Like right now I just finished with my last customer and I have no more so I am drawing that now >>1471401

>>1471404
That's a nice progress then. You should make dA account. I would follow:P

>>1471406
http://kitsune-elly.deviantart.com/

currently cleaning the lines

I'm happy with this because it's done from memory with no ref, the proprtions aren't perfect but I remember how I would've never been able to draw that years ago without ref.
hooray for practice I guess

well my style has been moving away from manga for the past few years but it still has a manga influence

i need a better way to lineart because my hands are shaky as fuck and i'm already using SAI with the stabilizers up all the way and i can't do animu if i can't lineart

>>1471545

that's..line art?

the fuck are you even doing? where are the variable line weights? where are the sharp vector edges?

this isn't line art.

it's just trash.

>>1471556
Don't be elitist, it's not that bad.

Anon said his hands were shaky.

Protip for /ic/: Not everyone is at the same level as you.

>>1471558
Guess what though? His post, while caustic has some semblance of truth and points out where things can be improved while you sound like his fucking overprotective mother with a post that helps neither the artist nor anyone else on this board.

>>1471545

Holy fuck and I thought I had it bad.

Are you zooming in to hit long curves in one motion?

Are you taking light source and mass into account with line widths?

These are the things you should be looking into.

It doesn't sound good when you're still chicken scratching even at S-7

Are you using like the smallest tablet possible?

>>1471572
my tablet is a medium sized tablet. i'll take those tips into account.

>>1471571
No, that anon wasn't helping either; making it personal just causes necessary friction.

>the fuck are you even doing?

What a thing to say. Whatever happened to thinking before you post?

>you sound like his fucking overprotective mother
But I wasn't being, I said it wasn't that bad.

>>1471578
stop posting your garbage and derailing this thread. you're contributed jack shit. if /ic/ 'offends your sensibilities' then gtfo

>>1471545
Well first of all you are borderline chickenscratching a lineart. If you ever hope to have some line control put your stabilizer to 1 or 2 max.

Stabilizer, while it seems that it helps you, it actually stiffens your lines, making you unable to control the weight and curve. Do line control

exercises and do big confident lines, if you must do a big line, zoom out as far as you need to be able to do it in one stroke and use your arm,

yes the don't use your wrist use your arm thing is not bullshit, the wrist after a certain point it always curves, you cant hope to have line control
over the curves of your lines with your wrist so use your arm.

don't do it in parts, do it as a whole, only brake lines that are multi curved, but even then don't over do the breaking, and refine the edges that

don't connect or that make overlapping corners whit the eraser. And don't let it worry you to death and stop you from improving in other things,
it will come with time, yes with time, as long as you keep it in the back of your head and do line control exercises from time to time.

>>1471556
>where are the variable line weights? where are the sharp vector edges?
Variable line weights aren't a necessity.

Better points would be how thing the lines are for such a large drawing, and how unfinished it looks for line art(gaps, gaps everywhere, chicken scratching, messy looking hair) and more like a sketch.

hallo

>>1471610
That's pretty nice, son. Mind sharing more of your artwork?

>>1471545
Pretty much this.

>>1471545
Zoom out of your canvas and do swift strokes. That works for me and my hands are parkinson-tier shaky (caffeine)

Relevant because it's anime... less relevant because it's the color scheme I'm having trouble with.

But here's what I'm working on now... any help with backgrounds or color schemes?

>>1471738
I don't have much advice to offer but, even though you've got ways to go, I like your composition and what you've got going on.

>>1471738
Does this take place night of the final day in Clocktown? Why's that moon so huge?

>>1471743
Because it's a moon festival I felt like drawing weeb things tonight. But yeah I can see where it is a bit tooooooo big.

>>1471252
That's cool. Y'know I never understood how I would approach animation. I know my basics aren't good enough yet, but I got advice in the past that told me I should try and attempt to animate. How do I approach animation? Is it something you just "do" and improve each time or is there a book to read with or something?

>>1471746
I'm funnin' but yeah your main colors seem to be blue and purple so a lot of your shading should be based on those colors. Drop a layer fill it with purple, set it to multiply, adjust the opacity then start "carving" out shadows. That should give you a good base to start with.

>>1471757

Animator's Survival Kit by Richard Williams

Animation is one of the hardest mental activities you can possibly do.

It takes fucktons of tenacity.

And yes you do need a decent enough foundation before you go trying to learn all the shit you need to learn to animate.

Are you man mode enough?
Because honestly, it terrifies me. I have nothing but respect for animators.

i obviously need practice, loomis, etc etc, but its probably the best thing i've drawn in a year. i think i spent too long though, little over an hour and its not even a sketch by this boards standards. what with me not being able to draw a straight line, i keep erasing or i just say fuck it and clean it up later.

and i know, practice and that shit will help, its just i have a hard ass time sitting down and doing something i don't want to, i'd rather learn whilst drawing, but i know someone is gonna say; that is the worst thing to do, don't do that, suck loomis's cock until he blows art down your throat.

but, chew me out anyway, i really just wanted to draw what the fuck i wanted.

I drew a Vanellope earlier

>>1471779

Amigo.

Amigo.

Drawing with your dick is a hard thing to let go for the interim while you learn your fundamentals but think of all the boners that your artwork will be responsible for when you get good. Keep that hope alive in your heart and you'll get there.

Now spread your cheeks and take that Loomis dick

i dont understand how to draw hair using lineart... or how to do lineart in general.

Drawn using vectors, but the face is raster. Im not sure how I can convert it into vectors without losing all the detail.

someone said the face looks wierd but im not seeing it. according to my rulers everything seems mostly correct {for animu at least}

>>1471784


All dem layers
All dose hamboigahs

Face looks generic as shit but like you said, mostly correct.

>>1471782
i only draw a few things a day, like 5 or so.
how long should i even practice for, just thinking about doing it for an hour is killing me. wish there was a way to learn while fucking drawing shit, but there obviously isn't.

otherwise, everyone would be good at art.
i mean, i pick up on shit and i draw out like the framework before hand, but things still aren't right.

believe it or not, >>1471779 had a whole mess of spheres and shit before i finished it.

>>1471784
The back of the head is a bit mishaped. Reference some 3/4 and profile heads. Shoulders are too small for that body.

Why so many layers?

>>1471789

Improving is about facing the pain, fear and discomfort of not knowing what you're doing and failing until it becomes comfortable and than moving on to the next thing. Its about undoing all your existing perceptions and habits and making new ones, you have to make a conscious effort to change your though processes.

Sustained, focused and mindful practice.

If you need a lesson plan the sticky is pretty good but I'll give you the short list anyways

Scott Roberston's Gnomon DVDs:

Basic Perspective Form Drawing
Rendering Matte Surfaces I, II and III

Ctrl-paint/ Matt Kohr's Perspective videos
Ernest Norling's Perspective Made Easy

Anatomy:

Hampton's book and his CGMA vids and Vilppu's torrent in the OP

>>1471784

To draw hair you must learn to draw from the shoulder and how to gesture your strokes. Hair is all about flow and balance. Practice doing sweeping strokes.

>>1471769
Thanks man. Fuck I'll at least try I'll see where that takes me, I'm pretty confident my foundation is at least some what decent to start

>>1471789
I wish i knew. I have been drawing few hours daily since last year and i am still nowhere and everything seems impossible. But in this time i talked with other people that can draw and what i got from it that you either can or can't draw. Copying reality, remembering objects, drawing without construction, using imagination should be apparently easy. Oh well.

>>1471792
yeah, i just like others art and its a downer having to learn from nothing. i know its an experience to learn, but i wish it wasn't so tedious. like there was a way to maximize your practice and little things to speed up learning from 50 plus yr old material, ie loomis.

>>1471798
i know, hell, i used a ref the other day and that is pretty much tracing without tracing and it still didn't look great.

just wanna draw tits and get dosh, ya know.

Anyone know how to pick colors. I read a bit from color theory here and there but there isn't any info how to color anything. I always pick shit colors for clothes, hair, skin, and pretty much everything.

>>1471807
The best I heard is from ctrl paint. Do a ton of quick 30 min paintings. They'll be shitty at first but you learn something from each one. Keep your canvas and reference you're copying zoomed out and paint away. Then actually apply what you learned by painting something. It's a long process but you'll be poppin' out decent thumbnails after a few weeks or so of decent practice

I always wonder how some people do those cool sketch a day drawings. Drawing all kind of things correctly when I would need to study for a week to do each image.

>>1471780
I know you tried to make it look glitchy but it looks like something lewd was censored.

>>1471890

People do that sketch-a-day thing differently, it's whatever benefits them the most

It basically boils down to the fact that anything you draw counts, even if it's just a doodle. As long as you're actually learning something from it though and not just drawing for no reason.

It's more about experimentation and doodling than trying for perfection.

and yes, even chicken scratch can help you as everything and anything you draw adds cumulatively to everything else you draw in the future. Something is better than nothing.

>>1471911
Implying something lewd WASN'T CENSOR--
Okay that was stupid.
Thanks though! I'm gonna try out a few things differently since this is going to be a con print.

>>1471914
It's not about this. I wonder how some people can just sit and draw shitload of thing they never had drawn before and it just looks good and correct.

>>1471942

Practice

>>1471945
What a useless advice that doesn't really answer anything. I wonder how much should i practice so i can draw anything new on first glance. Cause some people apparently can just do it.

>>1471947
It's not actually useless. Not every one has "talent" and can draw instantly what they see. Some practice and practice until they see some points (be it how the hips curve, arms move, feet, etc.) in what they draw and get used to drawing those things.

If you are practicing by Copying the model in front of you, well you're not entirely doing it wrong, but Analyzing the model or figure or picture you are using as a reference is better. Analyzing will lead you to fully understanding what you are actually drawing, then in turn you can recall those understandings if you are drawing from your mind and maybe twist and turn it.

>>1471942
It's called good observation. You don't need to draw something to analyze its basic shapes and forms. For example, if you have never draw a ship before and try to draw it from imagination you will come up with symbols because when you see a ship in your ever day life you don't go like I shit take a look at this ship and analyze it in basic geometric shapes you just go like yhea a ship I have seen that before. practice your observation.

Okay, /ic/. Be straight up with me. I'm not asking if I suck at drawing, because that's a pretty dumb question to ask. I quite obviously do. I can live with that for now.

My question is how much I suck. How terrible is this drawing? Is it worth my time to pursue drawing any further, or should I just give up now and find a different hobby?

>>1472000
Anatomy is your major problem. If we are supposed to be looking at her back, her head won't turn so far like that. Legs, hip, head, hands, etc.

Worth your time? Still depends on you. The torrent at OP is really helpful and read the sticky, it has tons of materials. Watching and reading those materials in one night won't magically make you a magnificent artist. Practice everyday.

If you can't find time for practice because you're busy with work/school/whatever, that's fine. But if you can't find time because you're "lazy" or you don't feel like it then ask yourself if you really would like to pursue drawing. Motivation is the key. If you can't motivate yourself to practice, then you'll be stuck at that level.

>>1472000
You don't understand anatomy, form or drapery. But you can get better. Just don't be the person that changes a hobby every year trying to find

the thing that he is good at. There is no thing that you are good at, only the thing that you are willing to practice and spend time on

because you really enjoy the process.

>>1472000
Just look at Mikufag. He's come so far in only 6 months. You could too.

>>1471942
>I wonder how some people can just sit and draw shitload of thing they never had drawn before and it just looks good and correct.

How long have you been following these threads? We've had a few very good redliners who stress the importance of drawing in passes, seeing primitives, understanding perspective.

>>1472036
>a few
2cuntslaughing.tiff

posted it on draw thread but nobody seems to give a shit

>>1472097
Check your anatomy. Is she supposed to be bending? Her pelvis area looks weird. Feet, breasts, hands, knees look weird too.

>>1472111
yep, her hip should be tilted

>check your anatomy
>looks weird
please be more vague

>>1472114
please be better at drawing

>>1472114
if the anatomy doesn't look wrong to you, you need to spend more time studying. there is no critique in existence that can make you a better artist, you have to put in effort yourself.

>>1472097
Legs are not sausages connected by kneecaps. I suggest you learn how muscles in the body work and understand what bodyparts should look like.

The proportions themselves are just deformed. The torso is way too thin and the hips are broken. Do realistic figure studies.

>>1472114
>vague
Yeah, I can't explain clearly. Will you pardon my shitty redline? Cause I can't redline that's why I critique with words and apparently I sound vague.

>>1472137
thanks for the redline
well that little bulge you are pointing at is supposed to be the oblique muscle, and the hip bone shouldn't be visible i believe. well, that was my objective at least

>>1472150
I exaggerated that end because if the pelvis area should be tilted, the whole left leg should look raised but it has the same length as the other leg from pelvic area to the ground.

Try the pose then look at the mirror or feel the different parts of your body.

>>1472163
yep you are right
i should have used a ref

h-how is she /ic/?

>>1472235
super kawaii ^_^

>>1472235
is there areas i should improve on or is it beyond saving and worth doing some studies

>>1472238
thanks, sorry for the horrific line work

>>1472235
Her right knee looks like its too further inside to the right as we see her, its not lining up with the bone of the lower leg if that can make you understand what i am saying. Also i find the legs too short, its not necessarily wrong,
but it gives here a kind of midgety feeling that for me brakes her beauty. The face is really pretty though.

>>1472243
thanks, i'll stretch her legs a bit and make them look more symmetrical near the knees

Says Cartoons, so I guess I'll post this here.

I noticed some mistakes after finishing the heads so I wrote down some notes of what I should keep in mind later. I also flipped the image and noticed I'm swaying to much to the right on some of the angles and that puts off some of the balance. Is there anything else that looks off?

1/2

>>1472257
2/2

>>1472257
>>1472258


Doing it right I'd say.

Not enough people do their construction with blue pencil and lay nice final lines overtop.

Mikufug would benefit from this.

>>1472268
You know, I've been looking for that blue pencil ever since I found out about it from fun with a pencil but I couldn't find it anywhere.

>>1472257
>>1472258
I love these.

>>1472270

http://www.dickblick.com/items/20512-5540/

>>1472275
E-erasable color pencils?!

I never knew...thank you I am buying a set right now.

>>1472278

They're like the industry standard colored pencil.

Used extensively in Animation.

>>1472282
I'm getting the 24 set right now, with shipping and everything it'll come out to 30 dollars but oh well maybe if I color traditionally instead of messing with layers and blending options in photoshop it would better help me understand coloring.

>>1472284

Good luck dude

>>1470818
How do i into torrent
Magnet doesnt work

>>1471047
Her face reminds me of a slow loris.
Otherwise, holy shit are you making progress! I need to work harder before you surpass me; It could be months now.

critique?

>>1472338
I think the face and proportions are alright. Other than that, I can't critique anymore because there's too little detail on other areas.

Try to work on that hand to see if you can draw a hand gripping something, add details on the ribs area, and maybe make the lower leg thicker because he looks like a dude who only works out his upper body area. Lastly, slightly make a hint of the other leg.

>>1472338
Clean it up and then ask again.

Give him some calves. They should also curve from the knee (which is kind of hard locating). Give him proper fingers and ankles and just define him more.

did I do it right?

>>1472979
ahahahah
ahahHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHA

thats fucking great
I'll be saving this in its current state for future laughs

update on my animation

shes going to sheath her sword like a badass next

>>1473035

How many frames does it have so far?

>>1473035
you need more hard stops, you are easing to and from too softly

>>1473109
really? because I really don't have that many easing frames, maybe because its all on the 2's
>>1473094
right now around 60

Something i drew yesterday

And one i drew today, just finished tonight.

>>1473035

What do you do your animations in?

>>1473327
azdrawing it has a built in gif exporter

http://sai.detstwo.com/forum/index.php/topic,597.0.html

Hi. Just a bit more practice. It might be a little dark, because I thought I screwed the contrast setting again.

hello from a few days ago. im still working on it. someone said the face is lumpy but im not seeing it.

I'm well aware that I suck...

>>1473035
Do you have your blog or anything that I can follow you, dude?

i need to spend a week just looking at lighting

>>1473423
At least you're giving hands a try instead of covering them both up. Keep at it.

>>1473386
Hey, might be a little late,but I feel that the arms are a tad too short!

>>1471540
more like my chickenscratch.

>>1471784
Line quality seems good although there are still some minor anatomy problems like the right leg or the neandarthal right part of the forehead.

Also..Short legged dick girls are fine with me as long as they were originally female.

>>1472235
There's a fine line between short and midget my friend.

>>1472235
She's way too thick for 7 heads. Even loli proportions are generally 7.5, so you get midget.
Your blending is nice though.

>>1474222
what the fuck?

>>1474222
What the actual fuck...

>>1472235
Okay, don't listen to that guys advice! Here's the problem that's causing the "midget effect": Her legs (and only legs) are a little bit to short for her upper body. The groin should be located in about the middle of the human body, horizontally speaking. Fix that and she will immediately look much more "normal".

>>1474222
You did not make an average female body. In the real world, women are not very tall and don't have three times longer legs than their torso.

>>1472235
To add on to the short legs criticism, it's just the lower leg I think that's too short. Knee to ankle should measure the same approximate distance of ass to knee; Try sitting on your foot to see what I'm talking about.

>>1474225
>>1474231
>>1474237

he's making a point, you fucktards. back to reddit.

>>1474260
Yeah, but it's a retarded point.

>>1474260
A completely wrong point! All the artist of that pic should do is making her legs a tad longer (she should also make her about 7 1/2 heads tall then, which is pretty spot on for most girls).

>>1474260
a wrong one, retard.

>>1474311
No. all the artist has to do is make her giant-ass head smaller.

>>1471047
you improved a bit again.
the face is better now too compared to before, but try to learn more about the proportions of different styles. the face is still too stiff.

>>1474328
Thank you, I am drawing another one at work now...slow business day.

So animu art related, theres a manga contest for Shonen jump. is anyone from /ic/ gonna try for it?
https://mangaaward.shonenjump.com/en

also random thing I finished for a small contest.

>>1474490
If you tilt her mouth horizontally it would look like she is going :3

I like it. As for the contest thing I feel like I am not yet ready for competition although competition does make you better...

>>1474493
hah maybe I should've switched it up then.
....And Im not just noticing some other errors...

Eh, I'm still gonna try to give it a shot since in the end it's something I wanna try to do for a living.

>>1470951
>>1470935

>>1474505
Lol oh no...

>>1472235

>>1474638

[angelic chorus]

>>1474638

HAS OUR SAVIOR COME BACK TO US??

>>1474638
Teal!!!

Welcome back you beautiful son of a gun

>>1474668
Does this Teal person have a website? (Sorry if I seem like a newfag. I know I have to lurk more. But I need to know.)

>>1474678
Ask him yourself, don't ask me.

>>1474638
Website?

>>1474684
He is an enigma; let's leave it at that.

slut.

>>1474686
so does this person pops up from nowhere and fixes a lucky drawing with it's angelic touch just to disappear again for hundreds of years

Those who are serious about drawing should be discussing the methods outlined in the correction, not who made it.

>>1474699

Working through Hampton right now and I'm going to get back to watching all of Scott Robertson's vids when I get my desktop all re-assembled, thank you Teal. People do like to suck your dick but you are a force of good on this board.

>>1474689
mhm sort of. wait are you Jayne? as in THE Jayne..? his name's teal by the way.

update again

this part required a bit of study

still needs a lot of refinement. I plan on coloring this too (shit's going to take for ever)

>>1474757
I like your hands. don't know much about animation but I dig the hands.

>>1474757
jesus that's intense
how long has it taken you so far?

>>1474638
just came back to this thread
you sir are a god, thank you

>>1474638
still can't fathom how much better you made her look
i'll cherish your advice anon and will run with it

>>1474757
That is some sweet work you've got so far bro. Do you have a site?

a-any suggestions on how to make this look better

>>1474757
Awesome!
How long have you been animating?

>>1474791
Add a bit more canvas on the bottom to about where the hip starts to curve back in (before the nawty bits :< )
Get some more form with shading.
Color it.
I like it.

>>1474757
Katana are supposed to be sheathed edge up, not edge down.

>>1474767
a few days so far
>>1474790
I have a tumblr I've posted it here before. The one will huge tit lolis
>>1474798
I took animationclasses when I was little and ive made silly gifs for a few years I only started taking it seriously a few months ago
>>1474906
the edge is up but i drew the sheath facing the wrong way. thanks for pointing that out.

>>1474906
Jesus christ you are a fucking faggot.

>>1474638
teal!! <3

>>1474678
>>1474684
http://simontblr.tumblr.com/

Haven't drawn in a while. Hate having to relearn. Enjoy.

>have a lot of dA requests
>motivated as fuck to do them
>finish this
>take a break
>suddenly motivation is gone

teach me how to not procrastinate

>>1475068
I know that feel :l

>>1475068

Easy. Start asking for money on anything that takes longer than an hour.

>>1474986

aww yeah

First time posting in here, want to know what you guys think. It's a drawing of an avatar I made. I know I need to work on hair and curls but I haven't drawn in a pretty long time.

Proud of this sketch, but I don't want to polish it anymore than I already have because a of several foundation issues.

>erased arm gesture too early
>leg gesture was flawed; too long
>need to study leg anatomy more
>forearm and arm anatomy
>static masses

Otherwise, today marks the end of my first year of drawing and I am satisfied with my progress so far. Any other critique would be greatly appreciated. I've been using a combination of Vilppu/Hampton/Hogarth for studying, with my Loomis FD:FWIW hard copy for extra help.

(I originally posted in the draw thread, but I decided to post here since my original post was posted from my iPod and, therefore, improperly oriented.)

>>1474981
Goddommit you faggot. Last time someone posted that he disappeared for 2 months. You want him to leave again? STFU and GTFO.

>>1475068
This. Money is the best motivation.
>>1475140
Hair is not all smooth and flat. It comes in layers and is irregular but still following the same direction. Colour your hair in blocks. Lines really just represent the shadow between blocks of hair

I'll definitely try to work on that

>>1475157

The whole thing is pretty flat actually

Rev up those vilppu dvds

>>1475155
maybe if people stopped treating him like he's bigfoot or something, then maybe he would feel less pressured to do redlines

sage because off-topic

>>1474921
I just started following these threads.
Can you post the like to your tumblr again?

>>1475192
agreeing with this fella

people need to calm down.

A drawing I did in my last few weeks in high school. Thoughts? I do know some issues and hope to improve over the summer.

>>1475299

>>1475302
Thanks for the redline. At least it makes me more confident now since I noticed fewer errors in it. (Even though the face and neck are indeed issues.) As for the proportions on the clothes, I made it oversized on purpose. I wanted to have a little "nobility" to come out of it.

Should it really take me 10 million tries before i can draw heads with some nice hair and emotions? Because i don't know if this is so complicated or i'm too retarded for this. I fuckup placement of everything every time. I feel like it shouldn't be that hard.

>>1475135
>>1475157

i really dont think my skills are good enough for money

>>1475150

Any input on this? I'm starting on something else and was just curious if anyone had anything to say.

>>1474986
My feelings are mixed.

I love Dirty Pair, and your artwork is great. Seems pretty unique, and dem abs.

But...you shouldn't be using your powers for evil...

>>1475068

Stop doing requests you dunk

>>1475399
My advice is to practice more gestures because it looks like you redid the figure's right leg multiple times to get it closer to what you wanted. Gestures will help with your instincts on human proportions among other things.

>>1475450

I wrote that down after I self-critiqued. Still, thank you. Every bit helps.

inb4 neck too long - muh style.
I was trying to do a facial study.
maybe it's too realistic to go itt but I feel like it's also too cartoony to put in the draw thread.

>>1475475
to put it nicely, it doesn't belong in here, you don't belong in here. kindly gtfo. thx

zombie-skin sailor jupiter is still in the works.
I need reference for her feet like goddamn though.

>>1475475

Every time you post a study, post your reference as well.

>>1475490
can it still be called a study if you're not using reference? sorry, I'm bad about art terms

>>1475155
Yeah? I'm sure it wasn't the incessant ass kissing you do that creeped her out in the first place.

>>1475483
left arm is too short. with that much tilt in the shoulders her elbow should almost be touching her thigh

>>1475504

>simon
>her

>>1475504
>incessant ass kissing
When Teal posts people thank him and move on. They freaked out recently because they thought he'd left. So what you thought was ass kissing was just people happy that he's back.

People have always just thanked him for his help or argued with him. He disappeared right after someone posted the link to his tumblr last time.

The only reason why an artist would not want their work viewed by the public would be if they were either not proud of it, or have something to hide.

Teal is good, not the greatest, but I don't think he should have anything to hide, so why leave when someone posts his tumblr? I mean seriously, it's free publicity, especially when most of the people here love his work anyway.

>>1475585
4chan tends to be very smothering. If they don't run someone off from the initial shock (-fag as a normal suffix, brutal honesty, etc) then it's from the attention and hostility coming at them at the same time.

Less about things to hide, more about not being able to get away.

>>1475562
No, people get overly attached to her and turn her posts into objects of idolatry. It's weird and unflattering. And worst, if anybody criticizes her work, suddenly you weirdos come out of the woodwork to 'defend' her. Which doesn't make sense nor sounds fair, given this board turns on open criticism. It's as if she can critique our work, but we can't critic her's. Why? How's that fair? She's not some invaluable resource you people have to be besotted over and wickedly vindicate. That kind of behavior makes threads like these worthless and uninviting. They're uncomfortable enough already.

>>1475424
dont listen to this fag, please keep going. dont stop

>>1475608
>her

Him, anon. Him.

>>1475622
prove it

>>1475340
Knees are way too low.

>>1475600

>4chan tends to be

Stopped reading there.

never drawn anime before, but i decided to take a stab at some fanart.

>>1474341
neat

Anyone else getting really tired of drawing?

I just wanted to draw my anime porn man, but now just doodling burns me out.

Learning more shut makes everything more boring. I wish I could just draw without giving a shit about the result. Even when I set the goal to make a terrible drawing from the start my brain still whines about the result

>>1476264
This is chicken scratch hell.

>>1476269
And paradoxically, the more studies I do the worse I seem to get. I mean this was a year ago.

>>1474648
>filename
fuck yea

>>1474906
>your autism is showing

>>1474986
>dont draw in awhile
>Fuck it
>draws X-men pr0n

for 'merica

So anyone here used both manga studio and sai? I'm wondering which one is better for coloring. I have used MS mostly but it seems sai brushes could be superior.

>>1476278
>X-men

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1476284
SAI

>>1476282
s-shut up!

>>1476284
MS is too clusterfuck for me

rather just use SAI

why would you use MS for single illustrations anyway?

>>1476286
WWWWWWWWWWWW

>>1476287
SPRINKELS IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO ICE CREAM

>>1476292
it's also made by the Dutch

>>1476287
Well MS has a lot more features than SAI for once. It's good for coloring too but it kinda misses some brushes.

>>1476299
thank you based Dutch gods

Is this /a/ enough for you guys? Feel free to shit all over it in the name of improvement

>inb4 chicken scratch

Some critique/input would be great.

I wanna go for a Mahou Shoujo look, but I dunno what to do for costume.

Any tips?

would you a dog gurl

>>1476390
How do you guys render like this?

That's one of the hardest things for me to do...

>>1476394
I mean like on Photoshop and shit.

Shit gives me so much trouble.

>>1476390
Left arm and leg are fucking weird. Otherwise yes I would that dog gurl

>>1476390
>Tail not wagging
Would not.

>>1476390
lol its like those incredibly fucked up visual novel artworks

>>1476264
In the end that's what it comes to, you just have to set your own goals and go about trying to achieve it. See what you like about your favorite artists' work, learn from it. Emulate it if you must, if it'll help you learn better. Don't get caught up in heavy studies and life drawing, some every now and then when on a need-to-know basis.

Drawing should be fun, and if it's not, you should re-evaluate what you're doing that's not fun. Then again, everybody goes through a rough patch, you just gotta work through it.

okay so this is based on a really small pencil sketch i did, thats the reason for the thick black lines since i traced them digitally
i can post the original sketch too if you want

>>1476545
What brush are you using for the lines?

>>1476386
bumping this cause I got ignored.

>>1476386
>>1476653
Well, it's looking alright so far. There's really not much to critique, though. Try to at least get a basic idea of what the body will look like for us so we know what you're going for here. Anything will do, you can go back and change it later. This is just to see where your skill level is at the moment.

>>1476657
Mmk, thanks.

I've started doing the body work in Photoshop, once I'm more satisfied with the result I'll post it here for some critique on proportions and gesture, since I kinda did it in a Two-Step process attatching a head to the body.

Also, any ideas for costume? Like I said, I want a Mahou Shoujo look, kinda like Platinum the Trinity, or School Uniform look. But not too generic. The only thing the OR was specific about is that they wanted the character to wear a heaband round their neck.

>>1476661
Actually, that was quicker than I expected. I actually got most of it done last night.

Something feels a bit off about the gesture... Once again, a problem that stemmed from doing the head first instead of the body as a whole...

Also, all the gesture lines are in a layer underneath, I just made them invisible.

>>1476327
Look /co/ to me.

>>1476652
i didnt use a brush because i liked the look of the pencil lines
i used the linework layers from SAI to make them look like this

>>1476386

This wouldn't happen to be you, would it?

>>1476666
...Is it just me or does she look anorexic?

Screwed around with lighting and using just black and white, I think I fucked it up.

>>1476327
Right arm is too short, it's making her torso look stubby

I was thinking about drawing a loli doing a big, big fart and then posting it here.


Should I?

>>1476898
yes

>>1476395
Soft brush and eraser

>>1476898
Why do you even ask?

>>1476901
>>1476914
Very well, you have twisted my arm. Whatever comes of this is gonna be your fault, not mine.


I'll scan it when I get it done.

(Image is not mine)

One of my favorite things about hentai is when they come up with those beautiful environments. They look so cozy and nostalgic. Like those sunsets after school hhhnnnnggg

From where can I get references for these kind of memorable places?

Hi /ic/! I have a few questions.
1) How should I approach drawing the Young Stalin hairstyle? Pic related, it's my attempt at drawing Young Stalin hair in animu style.
2) I'm very terrible when it comes to color theory. What are some good colors that would fit a rich entrepreneur and a childhood friend? Does best girl/guy usually have a specific color?

>>1476965

Royal purple (reddish purple)

>>1476968
Should the eyes and the hair be reddish purple? Or should I try a contrasting color for the eyes?

Could I get some help? I know there are a lot of errors, but my main concern atm is trying to figure out why her legs make her look out of perspective; She's supposed to be further back on the glass, but her legs look like they're more in the foreground.

>>1476961
From life. Go outside. Or check out the landscapes and pastoral scenes of painting masters. What pure describing is not exclusive to hentai by any means.

>>1476961
>From where can I get references for these kind of memorable places?
Photo references + imagination + good understanding of light and contrast

>>1476976
put kaiki in there

>>1476976
I don't get what you mean. What is she doing with her feet? You should probably start from scratch with a less ambiguous pose.

>>1471011
Ahh, you actually found that. I was really embarrassed at it, after looking at it, so I ended up deleting it. Thank you so much though! I really appreciate it.

>>1476981
I'm aiming for the first one. The bottom part of her body is straight, but she's leaning forward past her pelvis.
And I'd love to start from scratch, but quite frankly, I don't really have enough time. I'm trying to meet a deadline.

>>1476976
She looks too tall. Isn't Shinobu child-sized? She looks adult-height there.

I've been working on my anatomy, its not perfect, this is a new character I made, I'll post a couple more.

>>1477004

Another one

>>1476855
She's supposed to be real skinny.

Skinny girls are hot dude.

Besides the only other girl character in this project is very sexy/curvy. So it's a nice contrast between the two that way.

>>1476784
Sadly, not it's not anon. That linework one tablet is better than my tablet linework, I'm jelly.

How terrible is this? I used to be that one kid back in the day who only drew animu heads and small crappy thumbnail drawings. I wish I didn't develop that terrible habit because now I can't draw full bodies and have so little patience. ;_;

>>1476395
>go to livestream
>watch other artists for the lols
>learn some color
>i guess
>try it
>become Gotham City's new Doughnut shop
>its a good thing

>>1476855
holy shit what the fuck are you doing?

>>1476961
>hentai thats not in a white boring backround

I like

>>1476976
The depth is kind of throwing me off
>counter is fine
>lights fine
tables... why are they pointing to the window?
and the main view seems to be the door and not the character herself.
Consider,
>constructive drawing by our Lord, Loomis

>>1477070
Sounds like a good idea. Any recommendations on who to watch?

>>1477006
tis good.
>needs more Loomis
>with a dash of your favorite animu artist

>>1477027
>skinny girls are hot
>not wanting plump delicious chubby girls

>>1477039
This is a story all about how this artist got to cuddle with loomis.
so take a momemnt and sit right there
And ill tell you how to be a good anime artist
>LOOMIS

>>1477079
I personally like Reiq.
but thats not the style you are going for.
they have a lot of good animu artists on there.

>>1477082
Nah, I never liked fatties.

Even with 2D I've preferred girls like CC, Noel Vermillion and Horo over the busty girls.

In 3D Asians are my fetish. And I've always had a thing for Scene/Emo/Hipster girls. Even if they are riddled with issues.

>>1477080
what do you mean by needs more loomis? is that a way to say I need to improve figure drawing?

>>1477105
Yes, he means that you need to work more on your anatomy, proportion and form.

>>1477078
Ah, thank you.
And the tables were really confusing me, because I instinctively wanted the ones closer to me bigger and closer, but perspective says they shoudl be moving towards the vanishing point, which I have in the middle? And somehow my end result ended up being that?

>>1477072
attempting to learn what light is? my ADD kicked in and I got bored doing studies...

>>1477106
thanks, I've been working hard on doing that though, I feel l've improved over time, i've only been doing this for about 2 years

>>1477109
If you're studying light sources, you might want to start with simpler forms. Take a cup or a ball or a toothbrush or something and put it on your desk and shine a lamp on it and draw that. The light is coming from every direction in your picture.
Also for painting reference it looks a little off if your linework is a lighter value than your darkest shadows. Brown is good for lines but it should still be dark dark dark if it's going to be thick thick thick!

>>1477113
Keep at it bro.

Eventually you'll get there.

Word of advice though, best way to get better at anime, is to NOT draw anime.

If you focus too much on the style, it ends up looking generic.

Break out for a bit and do life drawings and gestures like from photos and stuff.

Likewise, with the anime style. Best way to improve it, is to do reference shots from ACTUAL manga/anime artists.

Tite Kubo, Eichiro Oda and the like are all great places to start. Especially Kubo, his style has a lot of emotion and is easy to learn. So it's a great way to kinda get a feel for what to look for. Focus on trying to get them as identical as possible, using what you've learned already.

Then go back and use your aqcuired knowledge to draw from imaginations.

One thing though, avoide Kishimoto, dude sucks at drawing properly.

I give up

>>1477108
what you have here is a one point perspective.
but the tables throw it off.
maybe if you lined them up leading to the door
and something on the table to get the eye back to the character.

>>1477130
get rid of your chicken shit.
>scratch
sorry.

>>1477136
Okay, thanks a bunch!

>>1477130
You shouldn't shade with the airbrush because it makes the forms and light sources seem vague. You also shouldn't use thin lines to highlight the hair; like everything, hair should be thought of in forms. You can highlight with a thicker brush.
You did a good job conveying warmth, but not as good conveying setting. I think you wanted them to be on top of a bed, but it looks like the futa is sliding off of it onto the floor, plus the blonde one doesn't have much balance and it's unclear what she's holding onto.
All and all it looks like you didn't really plan anything ahead. I can tell you have the patience to improve, you just need to practice from the right starting point.

How much time do you guys put into practicing//studying? I hardly ever have time and I feel like I will never improve with the few minutes or less that I get. :(

Guys, how do I into color?

>>1476394
I spent about 30 mins coloring this in sai using the water tool.

>>1476976
do something different with the hemline

>>1477228
Okay, thank you.

>>1475068


Fuck it, finishing all of em

new anermation

think the head looks a little too big right now

>>1477302
I think her arm might be a bit too high. Your animation is so fucking good though! I'm going to be busting my ass this summer.
I'm going to start animation courses on Monday; I was working on something earlier, if I showed you would you be able to give me some starting pointers?

>>1477307
sure, i'd be glad to help you

I'm a total self taught amateur when it comes to animation btw

>>1477316
And I'm an amateur when it comes to creating GIFs so we're even! The framerate is supposed to be 12 fps but oh well
It's sloppy as fuck, and the motion is a bit unclear at the end, but otherwise I wonder if it's at least kinda smooth.

Some comments would be helpful.

>>1477398
hmm the butt is not right for me, and the legs arent they getting too small?

>>1477130
S-saved.


Futa lolis are a particular weakness of mine.

>>1477117
Alright, I'll just go back to bare basics in that case.

anyone have advice on westernized anime, or anime(ized?) cartoons, kinda looking at style of Trigger's new stuff, Panty and stocking, this artist http://cubewatermelon.tumblr.com/

this may be my fetish

>>1478241
Oh god. Finish this please.

>>1478249
ok

>>1477167
2 or 3hrs everyday
I should do it more.

>>1477172
read the sticky

>>1477398
loomis those hands man.
as for the figure id say she is about 6 foot.

Hey /ic/. What are some color palettes that are as bad as the pic related? How would cataracts look like in animu form? I'm trying to design the MC for an otome game.

>>1478469
Warm colors i see

>>1478481
What about putting cataracts in animu form?

>>1478487
its already there in the gif...

Update on >>1476976

>>1477141
Alright, I tried to follow your advice. This is how it turned out.

>>1478742
Looking great,can't wait to see it finished. May I ask, how long does it usually take you to fully color a piece?

>>1470818
I suck at rendering frills and large areas of fabric, and I bet I screwed up the anatomy somehow.

>>1479207
A fullbody will take me like an hour or so, but I'm still really inexperienced with backgrounds, so I'm not particularly sure yet on that matter.

>>1479230
I like your rendering and colors. How did you learn how to do it? I always struggle with this, never knowing what colors or brushes to pick.

>>1479422
I can't really tell you much about colours since I struggle with values a lot myself.

I start off with a dull mid tone, then build and blend basic shadows. I often turn on a black and white filter when I paint to check my values are okay. Only towards the end I put in the highlights, I also set a layer to overlay when it comes to really bright areas. My colors get more and more vibrant as every time I choose a new colour I move towards more saturated points. At the end, I use a soft brush to apply global colours and set to either colour dodge or overlay.

As for brushes, I use a squished hard round most of the time with a slightly scattering smudge tool to blend with. I am still practicing using the hard brush to make clean strokes.

Make sure you determine your gradients in the early stages (after values). By this I mean you want the whole image to have a consistent colour scheme (for example mine was orange to violet) for good vibrance.

All these I taught myself through experience, I am currently trying to learn brush strokes from redjuice. I am by no means skilled but I hope this helped.

>>1479491
Also someone should make a new thread

>>1479230
This piece is incredibly strong up top, with great shading and a good grasp on facial structure, but I feel like it starts to weaken up at the arms and chest, anatomy wise, and the legs feel completely off. I'd redline, but I'm at work right now. I can do it later, though.

New thread >>1479501

>>1479497
I don't like the arms myself and the legs feel tacked on. I'd really appreciate it a lot if you could give me some pointers man.

>>1479491
Thanks i still think this is too advanced for me. Did it take long for you to learn it? got dA?

>>1479507
tbh it took me many failed attempts just to get to this point (my dA is full of fail, it's embarrassing), so you can check me out on wordpress or pixiv instead: cabulb.wordpress.com
pixiv id: 5539726

>>1479520
thanks