/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

these are probably out of order I don't even give a shit

So what good manga drawing books did you guys find? Sketching Manga Style seems the best. And also few Japanese books from the same author. I haven't seen anything better.

Also this is something no one seems to get

it's important, m80

Contributing, this one is my personal favorite :3

>>1457452
Thats pretty good, i want to add this one too, i find that knowing where the bones go helps alot.

WIP
any tips? a red outline would be very helpful too.

>>1457491
Body looks like a man's, for starters

>>1457491
Looks fine if you're going for that Special A style of long arms and legs, otherwise work on proportion a bit more. Not bad, though.

>>1457449
I don't use them myself, but I do know that Western "how to draw" anime books are awful. I physically hurts me to say it but you'd be better off with deviantart.

And you don't get so many "how to draw anime" books in Japan, because it's less specialist for them.

Just study the human figure, then work on stylising afterwards it you want to draw anime.

so much cancer

>>1457506
>Complaining about animu containment thread
Ishiggydiggy

How am I doing

-it's a study by the way, original by some korean dude.

>>1457491
The pose looks stiff/unnatural, her face seems a little wide, her hips are too narrow, arms are too thin
I think her little alfalfas would look nicer if they weren't as even
I wish I could offer more advice

>>1457521
Let's see the original.
Without it it's kinda hard to see how you're doing.

tried doing a still life for the first time, as well as a rough compositional thing for a comic panel. neither are great or even belong in the animu thread per se, but I just wanted to show that I am trying to mix things up thanks to you guys.

also, based on some of the stuff I was reading from the last thread I wanted to share a tidbit from that Kim Jung Gi interview that's been floating around /ic/, found here:
http://optima-video.com/KJG/bio/comic-king-magazine-malaysia-octobre-2012/

>College preparatory practices (which is, first-hand observation drawings and water colors of still life, figure, and classical sculptures such as bust of Venus or Agrippa.) is relevant to what you do as a cartoonist or an illustrator.

he doesn't go into much detail, unfortunately, but it's something to think about coming from one of the most talented sketch artists out there.

critique? I don't think it's as bad as my other stuff, but donno if I should keep at it.

>>1457491
looks like a bad tranny

hows this look so far? composition wise

two cute girls in baggy hoodies, siting at a rainy bus stop with an umbrella, kicking their over sized galoshes off

cant decide if they should have huge sweater puppies or not.

>>1457593
Everything looks fine, but I would shape the foot like this instead of how you have it, but thats just me

pls critique.

>>1457598
The noses seem to be a bit too big.

>>1457304
You make it sound like he's from some kind of mental institution.

>>1457598
its pretty shitty BADABUMTSHHHHH

>>1457491

>>1457559
trying to bring one of those out a bit more. going to try for a finished panel.

>>1457618
oh snap

>>1457618
You're a p cool anon tbh

>>1457618
now, all we need is some even better anon to redline the redline.

>>1457618
oh thanks a lot mate, i dont like the pose though, it gives like an agressive feeling and it wasnt intended to be that way. anyways the anatomy and clothes look much better in your drawing so thanks again.
Gonna try to fix it later today.

>>1457697
>>1457669
What did you say?! Depending on your answer I may have to kick your ass!

I'm getting into anime/manga style, should i check out loomis for anatomy, or will that just fuck me up?

>>1457596
how old do they look?

>>1457719
Just a quick check.
I've been starting lurking for a while now and I have to ask, what is "loomis"?

>>1457723
pls read sticky

>>1457720
They look 8-10 to me. Don't worry they definitely look loli.

>>1457720
god damn you and your midget fat lolis.

>>1457733

>>1457452
>>1457467

requesting something something like these but for male characters

>>1457545
This... direct drawing by the way but I think that hardly matters

>>1457720
oppai loli, i love the body form

POST MORE

>>1457780
I like the face of the long haired girl in your drawing better, and i think that you foreshortened the hands a bit too much but i think that yours has over all better form,

the hands and legs feel more organic, more full. I also find that your pelvis of the left girl lines up better with the ribcage in your drawing.

>>1457618
The belly button is too low and she looks like she'll topple over

>>1457719
It's going to help, learning anatomy will always help

Eh, I don't even know anymore why do I bother. Being slow and shit and seeing 13yo kids drawing better things 10 times faster make me wanna quit.

>>1457952
If you're that insecure and keep comparing yourself to other people then yeah, quit. You'll never be good with that mindset.

>>1457956
How good did you get with your mindset?

>>1457958
Ask my dad, he works for nintendo.

Currently working on a doujinshi. If you haven't tried it, it's pretty taxing. I decided after trying the norm manga style, to go with 4koma for faster work output. It's still time consuming of course when you go back in to put in screentone, effects and such.

But the more you draw it, the faster and better you get.
For weekly serializations in Japan, they have to make 20 pages in a week.

>>1457961
That doesn't really answer the question

and it's probably not even true

>>1457452
I just love the irony. I was just on that same kind of page in Loomis where the head keeps getting bigger as you grow.

Oh Animunga, why u so backwards?

>>1457618
> dat face

Nigga u call me kawaii one mo' time and imma slap yo shit!

Did this a while ago.

I should really stop drawing shonen hair, it's fucking stupid.

>>1457720
Needs bigger feet.

>>1457780

Using stylized drawings as your only source of study material will only serve to limit you

>>1458010
you're preaching in the wrong thread. this is the place for lost souls

>>1458013
Not really, I am watching Vilppu's videos about gesture and communication by using flow and rhythms and analyzing a figure by not copying the model. I'm pretty sure you've all seen it before but this is my first time watching it and it all makes sense to me now :3

If it weren't for that Anon >>1458010 I would probably still be lost, thank you Anon for your parroting and I don't mean that in a bad way we really need to be parroted until it goes through our heads so we can put two and two together.

>>1458016

Mikudude if that's you you should have been watching vilppu in the first place

>>1458025
I only had access to his books but just recently I found his videos and it all makes much more sense.

This is really exciting it feels like I am back in a school where I actually want to be in, and I am going to start watching them at work now that business is dead at the moment.

Any poses reference guides or sheets you people can recommend? I know I'm supposed to do it from real life observations and photos but I can't do those well enough.
Thanks in advance.

>>1458034
How about this:
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/391766/4cc5e70611/

>>1458036
Superior 2D wins again.

>>1458036
Thanks a lot, this looks quite promising

>>1457618

>>1457977

That's a proportion chart, not a height/scale chart. All heads are made the same size so their head-body ratio is easier to read.

It's not even an age progression. The one farthest to the right is a deformed design.

Assuming I have reached a decent level of anatomy, fundamentals, etc. and I'm still working on getting better at drawing things like everybody else - how does one begin to develop a style?
I know this is like asking "how does one be original" but could anybody share stories about how they "discovered" their style?

I saw this over at the /a/ drawthread and really liked it... How does someone even begin to push themselves to develop a style?

inb4 muh styles

>>1457598
whywouldyoudothis/10.

>>1458081
>how does one begin to develop a style?
There's a couple of ways you could go about it. You could just ape the parts of various styles you like into your own hodpodge, or you could intentionally design a style to serve a specific kind of content.

>>1458081
The way you draw is your style. Just draw how you'd normally draw and bam, style.

>>1458081
You don't "develop" a style. You just draw pictures, then eventually you try to draw a picture that you envision in your head, and you come up with a way to tackle it. You end up liking what you did, then you've taken your first step to discovering your own style.

>>1458081
>>1458099
>>1458115
ive had my own problems understanding this. my problem is that i have a style that i'm trying to create, because just doing whatever i feel isn't satisfying. i want something deliberate, but i have no clue how to get to the style i see in my head on paper.

>>1458122
What kind of style are you going for?

>>1458138
its animu, with a dose of realism, but still stylized enough to still look animu. i suck at it so i have no refs to show you, suffice to say that it's a mix of eureka seven and samurai champloo with a hint of naruto.

>>1458140
Well good luck with that one.

>>1457999
little girls have little feet

>>1458140
Try to recreate those styles then you learn and develop your own.

>>1457491
This one has gotten a lot of attention but i started it last nigh so i may as well post.

Try plotting out the drawing using boxes and other basic shapes and forms. Planning your drawing always helps. Also, work on your legs and hips, the upper body isn't horrible but damn, that lower body's bad.

I think the first guy who redlined you had it right though, try to be more dynamic in your poses. A cute girl singing is going to be dancing too. Like I said planning helps, you can twist and turn those boxes to get some pretty cool poses. Look up George Bridgman,he does a lot with boxes.

>>1458174
Oh and this is just my personal preference, but spiky hair is ugly and played out. Don't get stuck in the 80's-90's way of drawing anime hair, It wasn't that cool then and its really bad now. I think the bob looks much nicer anyway.

>>1458174
that pose is really boring imho
shes singing

living it up a bit

>>1458185
liven it*

>>1458174
Kay but you've got the torso and pelvis at 90 degrees to one another.

>>1457491
Here's a red line I did.

Your first, and foremost problem is the anatomy. The proportions are off, evident in how short the legs are. The limbs are also oddly long and lanky, a person would only have limbs that skinny if they were starving and haven't ate in a week. If that was what you were going for, you'd have to draw a bunch of bones showing through the skin.

Second, the pose is incredibly stiff. Consider the fact that she's a singer/idol, unless they are boring, or are a puppet/mannequin on stage, they would be dancing or at least buzzing with energy. The pose should be more dynamic, hair, cloth should be swaying and moving. The way you drew the pose, it looks like one of those paper dolls where the joints are held together via pins. Also, what's with the one dainty foot?

Third, and probably least important, is the clothing. What is she wearing? It looks kind of like rags, and I don't think singers wear rags on stage.

I hate to parrot this, but it's really the only solution. You gotta Loomis, a lot. Drawing from life and learning anatomy will improve your animu drawings directly.

>>1458356


one word proportion

you're redline looks like two completely different entities.

>>1457429
ohio ic-sama

>>1458370
おはようございます!おげんきですか?

>>1458371
素晴らしい, ありがとう!

>>1458010
I'm the one that drew that study, not this guy >1458016
Sir, I draw from pixelovely daily, those drawings aren't my only source for study, in fact this was one rare occasion..

>>1458364
Not that guy, but kind of hard to do an actual over-lay red line when your starting point looks like that on the left...

But still, the top half of the red lined body looks too small compared to the bottom half. If it was an attempt to do a slightly-from-below angle, then it wasn't too successful, it looks slightly odd...

>>1458356
first of all your redline looks great and all the points you have mentioned are valid.
but proportions and anatomy are definetely not what he should worry about yet nor should he spend time copying loomis or getting into stuff like drawing drapery.

>>1457491
you are still in that symbol drawing stage.
Maybe have a look at the videos from moatdtutorial + read the sticky? It will help you to understand what drawing is about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpV7LUfH6jI

moar

>>1458380
>ic idol master

I can't stop laughing. Keep going guys, I would join you but alas I do not yet own a drawing tablet. I want one so bad.

>>1457536
>>1457502
>>1457585
Yeah i noticed my anatomy is quite fucked up but anyways ill learn from my mistakes.

>>1458174
>>1458185
>>1458356
>>1458379
>>1457618


Thanks so much for all the tips and redlines, you really helped me out. By the way i already have some loomis books bought so ill use that for the time being, and ill also watch the moatdtutorial's.

>>1458380
I cant believe the amount of people who got into this, thanks again.

And as i was about to procrastinate for another day i found something fun to do.

Now someone better than me can red line my red line and the spiral never ends.

Sketch/quick color.
Ignoring any problems from the waist up, I can't get his legs to look normal. I want the left (his right) one to be higher than the other, but it seems to throw off the whole picture (especially with the pants). I can't decide on which version I'm going to do, but I still need to get it right.
How can I fix this? Is it the feet?

>>1458516
It's partly the foot and partly that his thigh isn't really foreshortened.

Also, fix the crotch, you've got anime girl vag/ass in panties shit going on that make it look like he's got no balls.

I just couldn't not do it.

>>1458400
>Yeah i noticed my anatomy is quite fucked up but anyways ill learn from my mistakes.

You do not learn anatomy from trial and error. you really need to study that stuff. Quit trying to take shortcuts.

>>1458607
>You do not learn anatomy from trial and error
Yes you do

>>1458614
This

Basically everything is like that. That's why the shrimp method works.

keep em coming.

>>1458636
variosustrainsofcancer.jpg

>>1458356
Do you have an art blog?

>>1458575
Wow what an improvement! I am quite jealous, may I kiss your feet and hers?

>>1458642
I'll keep my feet to myself, thanks, but I'll let her decide about hers.

>>1458638
epic xD xD xD

>>1458607
What the fuck man, i never tried or implied i was going to try and take a shortcut, and besides in anatomy you do learn from your mistakes, but of course you also need to study it, and that's what i said i was going to do... Lrn2read.jpg

>>1458575
i really like it, way better than mine

>>1458421
Demtits

>>1458638

>because something that is visually pleasing or interesting to some isn't art at all unless it caters to your tastes


heh

realized that mine looked like it had a tumblr nose
please accept my sincerest apologies

>>1458667
The cancer he is referring to is the path skipping the fundamentals that these threads eschew and those who created those carcinogens embrace.

And you all wonder why he left.

>>1458679
>fundamentals that these threads eschew
You haven't been paying attention to these threads or you'd know that's not true.

>>1458679
I wonder what are you expecting? For people to study anatomy for 10 years before they make they post their first picture? Have you draw anything in your life? Because those images show different knowledge of anatomy and i doubt this knowledge came from ass so clearly some people learn it in some way. Tell me how are you expecting anyone to draw good without drawing bad first?

And people leave because of shitposting.

>these threads

a-am i late to the p-party?

>>1458734
naw bra you're just in time.

>>1457758
Probably not here anymore, but I thought I'd point out that the reason all those tutorials are with women is because their bodies are less complicated and have less angles and muscles than most you would find of men. It's better, then, to practice drawing women primarily, and then when you have the hang of it you can shift to male proportions with the help of simple photo references. I've heard it's extremely difficult in comparison to draw males and then try to draw women.
Lecture over uvu

Wherein I pretend to have some vague semblance of what the hell I'm doing when in reality I haven't the slightest fucking clue

Wherein I pretend to have some vague semblance of what the hell I'm doing, when in reality I haven't the slightest fucking clue

>>1458561
Thanks, I see it now.

>>1458772
You didn't have to say that for us to know it

tfw lazy

>>1458801
wat

>>1458801
yeah i'm going to have to go with >>1458827
on this one.

ooo i wanna join

>>1458850

penis isn't obvious enough

>>1458746
I can do it, too!

>>1458853
What are you talking about anon, what penis? uhuhu

Can't do shapes at all - been trying for a while. I find it easier to just make a ton of messy lines, do a lot of erasing, etc. etc. It seems to - almost - work for me. It certainly works a lot better than the vast majority of Deviant Art users and some of the people on Hentai-Foundry; however, it becomes hard for me to change the perspective or properly forshorten while also making it a total dick to do hands and feet.

I'm practicing shapes on this one a bit - specifically her hands and feet. I will admit that, likely, my main problem is refusing to go outside the shape when actually forming the drawing (for instance, when I use an oval for the torso, I tend to actually make the torso an oval instead of blocking it up some).

There are some major issues with this - I'm well aware, but could someone possibly explain the shape process with a picture at least relatively similar to this? Loomis doesn't help - Vilppu is exceptionally expensive and the torrent is several gigs.

I know I need to practice shapes more and rotating them in my mind, but I can build shape people (series of blocks, spheres, cylinders, etc), I just can't form them together properly - shoulders always look detached from torso, somehow the legs look disconnected or retarded from the pelvis (which I've tried both a block and a semi-sphere, a combination of the two and a pentagonal prism... I'd like to learn this so forshortening and perspective become easier.

>>1458888
Download vilppu, you need anatomical knowledge. Yes you can and will forever be advancing by trial and error, but first you need a basic understanding of what you are drawing. Stop trying to reinvent everything vilppu will show you anatomical land marks of the body that will change how you think about the body when you give shape to it.

Watch the drawing manual first to learn about gesture and then the proportions video on anatomy and then slowly all the other parts. You don't need to create a medical understanding of all muscles to star drawing of course but you need a basic idea of what is what, it will give you a huge jump.

lined this up tonight

can't decide if I should cell shade it or go for a a more fully rendered look

the hands and feet look pretty small but it's more kawaii that way

lined this up tonight

can't decide if I should cell shade it or go for a a more fully rendered look

the hands and feet look pretty small but it's more kawaii that way

>>1458911
I like your plump lolis, they are definitely on pare with nekomamire, with there own touch.

>>1458911
would you be willing to show your construction method?

>>1458911
>dat linework
hnng

Watch out for the anatomy of the hands/fingers and the legs though. I know it's suppose to be exaggerated by some of it doesn't follow correctly enough to be exaggerated. Are you doing loose lines and then taking a few hours to carefully do the linework? Do it cellshaded. If you wanted a realistic approach you should of started in a more painterly style.

Any tips how should I make folds and color it so it doesn't look like shit? Also anything about color could help.

>>1459010

Depends purely on the fabric
Right now it's reading as a stiff cardboard like raincoat. The lighting is also confusing as hell.

Best thing you could do is study the type of fabric you're trying to perceive.
Folds are usually soft and the value changes cant be quite extreme. Try to think about how much it's folding over one piece of cloth and change the values accordingly.

http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html

There's alot in there, it will likely help you.

>>1459011

value changes can be quite extreme*
(L-5 W-17) its

FUCK WHY DONT I PROOF READ GOD DAMN IT

>>1459011
I don't know how to make it soft (or where) or pick up colors. Whenever i try to use airbrush or watercolors it looks like someone smeared shit over it.

>>1459016

Just got done watching MURRICA

anyhoo yea it's going to look like a muddy bitch wash mess like pic related

Now I didnt do it mainly for learning purposes but you can have that smeary ass look and apply a sharper brush on top. alot of animu artists do this. Another thing you can do is blot shit in ona top layer and erase it out with a soft brush giving a nice transition.

Also the lines detract from the image. Look into line weight if you want lines in your image. Personally I just find them pointless.

I was where you were at a year ago.

>>1459023

fook

Also check on your values theyre flat as hell

Am i doing it right?

>>1459023
Well thanks for some tips and a link. I will try to work out something. What do you mean by values being flat though? And how should i change it?

hey can you fuck off out of these threads
thanks

>>1459051

Values are pretty much your spectrum of white vs black

Your imagine in question is like 80% Just locked there. Darkest value was a mid tone.


Having strong contrast really makes an image stronk.

I mildy changed the values in your imagine to maybe make you notice what I was talking about.


Draw in grayscale for a good long time. Trust me it really helps and coloring is 100% easier.

My image isnt the greatest example , no stronk highlights as of yet. SOON. I hope you'll be able to see what I'm talkin' bout'.

>>1459058


WHY WHY DO I DO THIS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT THE PROOFING IS NOT ENOUGH

i mean what could a feng zhu wannabe who types like an autistic 12 year old possibly have to contribute.

>>1459067
>guys please respond, i need attention

>>1459067

HEY MOTHER FUCKER HOW DARE YOU

IM A GOD DAMN DAVE RAPOZA WANNABE

Get it right next time swervyswag!

Reposting in the correct thread, sorry. Sage for me.

>>1458888
I understand your situation, I was in it too, though I drew much better than that before thanks to bucketloads of trial and error.

Someone here linked me to Vilppu, 17GB, I thought "fuck it" and went for Loomis.

Pdf was shit quality and while his methods did work, it felt like I wasn't learning anything, more like mimicking and forgetting.

SO I cleared some spae on my PC and downloaded Vilppu.

DOWNLOAD Vilppu. In just one hour of his explanation on the anatomy of the head, I drew near perfect heads. It's incredibly how much sense it made.

Seriously man, it's worth it.

>>1459147
Where is this 17gb batch file? I can only find single videos.

>>1459180
i think i saw it on boku no google.

>>1459183
The first result is just a bunch of broken adfly links, and the second result is an obvious virus.

>>1459185
is it tho

>>1459192
>17gb
>15 seeders

welp, late again.
i tried to stay close to the source.

>>1459215

It's legit, believe it or not. Not a lot of people seed the damn thing.

>>1459237
Looks like I have some work to do

So after a nostalgia thread on /m/ I figured I'd take a look at making more of this shit. Are there any guides for this kind of colouring/shading style they used to use in the 80's and 90's?

>>1459242
Another example

>>1458159
Little girls also have little breasts, so that's not really relevant

I drew this yesterday

>>1459242
Probably more to do with the level of detail taken in the lineart than the coloring, though the latter seems to use a lot more gradients and highlights than anime today. Then again >>1459243 seems to just use a standard 3-tone system.

>>1459255
>Flower, I...

I'd try to get the wings to look like they're buzzing around, she seems to be floating in place.

>>1459258
This
Her lower right arm also looks a little backwards. And as the background/foreground plays a significant part, I'd spend a little more effort on it.
Pretty cute though overall.

Recently getting back to trying to learn manga
I didn't know /ic/ had a manga general, I remember these being bashed to death some years ago. I'm glad that has changed a bit?
From what I've read itt so far, I should download Vippu right?
I also feel like I have a problem with making firm, secure lines, any recommended exercise for that other than the obvious "practice more"?

>>1459242
>>1459243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxHgVBpKNEo

>>1459215
>>1459237
>>1459241
Currently downloading. I'll seed after.

>>1459237
>>1459241
>>1459215
Only took 4 hours. This is a lot of fucking videos. I dont know where to begin.

whoops, posted this in the old thread

>>1459314

Gesture

>>1459314
Just make sure you do one a day so that you're not overloading your brain. Draw along with what he does and then try applying it on your own.

Make it your summer project to finish those videos.

>>1459318
she's cute, and the coloring is really nice, but you could use some basic anatomy knowledge. for starters look at how you've got the pit of the neck just above the start of the breasts. i'll try redlining it for you tomorrow.

>>1459147
I just don't have the time to download 17 gigs. My computer is rarely hooked to the Internet for extended periods of time and it has a low seeder number...

>>1459180
Pirate Bay.

>>1458967
I didn't really use any construction on this one besides a guide line for the eyes and a bean shape for the bodies

>>1459414
I love it, i really do. But the right girls face is very scary, i know that she is eating and you wanted her mouth to be full but it doesn't look like she has alot of that candy in her mouth,

she just has the tip of the candy in, and her mouth looks very full and it almos looks like she doesn't have a chin, and it gives me the image of that creepy doll from saw. But i really like the body's.

am I kawaii? Translator's note: Kawaii means "hideous."

>>1459427
is this any better

I added a bit of chin

I'm unsatisfied with her right arm and leg, and my shading is wonky as hell. Trying to get better at overall illustration instead of having my character in a white void or abstract BG.

>>1459438
Those eyes are a bit wonky, and kind of creepy to me. I can't quite pinpoint why though.

>>1459414
How do you pick your colors?

>>1459438
Yes now it's much better, it looks like she has a chin behind the candy, it's amazing how much a simple line can indicate

>Most of this thread
>DRAW THESE SYMBOLS
>PUT THEM ON YOUR MODULAR CHARACTER
>nah man you put the symbols for the eyes lopsided, straight them out like this!
>dude look ur symbol for the hip bone is slightly off to the left instead of over to the right
>lol i draw better than both of you look at my redlines to show that

>>1459445
>symbols
>shiggydiggy

>>1459445
That can be said about a ton of cartoon art. God knows how much Disney suffers from this.

>>1459414
You should be giving critique in this thread instead. You are clearly better than most. Anyway did it take you long to draw it?

>>1459448
You know what's funny is I'm pretty sure this was a guy getting completely shat on by just about everyone a few threads back. Its interesting to see this transition.
Also, who's to say they're not giving critiques?

>>1459450
Because it seems few people here knowledge beyond "head is too big", yet average critique is on that level.

>>1459452
You can be a decent artist and still give crappy critiques. The opposite is also true. I'd say the real problem is there aren't many who are really driven to redline or go in depth with their critiques. Its extremely frustrating when you get blown off, or sometimes even insulted for trying to help someone. People seem to get attacked for any little reason in these threads and its almost like its caused people to walk on eggshells because of it.

>>1459435
no, you're going pretty far into 'edgy'. you're clearly trying to be hideous rather than naturally allowing the character to become hideous

>>1459450
>>1459452
>>1459448
no,.most people who thought that mags shit looks like shit probably still think the same.
i at least just gave up on talking about it because idiots won't fail to defend it as style or "taste".

>>1459497
>mags
that dude is not magister at all, nigga you need glasses.

>>1459441
bretty gud

>>1459498
there is no difference

>>1459414
Christ on a cracker whats with the supertits?

>>1459503
The difference is that his lolis actually look like lolis, he posted many times here where have you been?

>>1459497
I'm not mags brah

>>1459414
light sourcing and shadow are all over the place, but I guess thats your style right

>>1459441
as it stands she just seems to be posing in front of some kind of billboard. you're not going to be able to pull of backgrounds like that without some dedicated landscape studies, but really it doesn't look bad at all and fits well with the style.

though yeah the legs are a bit wonky. try taking some take to learn about the different muscle masses that make them up, you've got them looking like one big solid sausage. and you're right, her right arm looks like its been amputated.

>>1459438
fix those eyes man..

both of them are clearly different from each other.

>>1459581
Thanks! I do a lot of landscape studies and I try to stylize but without success. I'll keep working on that more!

I should have put more work into those legs. Sometimes I just ink over my presketch which can be super loose. Right are would work if it wasn't behind her.

I'll keep working! Thanks for the tips!

>>1459441
put her right arm on her right leg instead I'd say

>>1458054
The girl is hotter than the drawing by far

>>1459600
Vampire teeth, Buddha ears and small eyes.
3DPD can never win over 2D.

>>1459630
>vampire teeth
They're called canines, you fuck

>>1459497
mags was getting shat on before as well?

>>1459643
Not as much as she was shat on at the last oc thread on /jp/. She is a neet and can draw better than most of them and because of that she started to became kind of

well known and some people just couldn't hide their autism. Some said that she must leave because she doesn't care for 2D much and have real contact with other humans.

I like her art, but just because of what she draws mainly, not how she draws it, because she just reached a point where she isn't improving at all, she either doesn't care or doesn't try to.

>>1459645
There are drawthreads on jp? How are those in comparison to this?

>>1459647
Search some archive, fuuka or foolz we are already getting way off topic.

>>1459645
Post some art of hers. I don't browse /jp/ often

>>1459403
thanks man, I appreciate it!

>>1459029
pls respond

>>1459645
That's ridiculous, Mags improves quite quickly. The fastest in those threads, even. Have you been around to see Mags' stuff a year ago? Just because you can't particularly perceive a change doesn't mean there isn't one, either. Out of all the people in those threads, Mags is definitely one of the least stagnant.

>>1459659

I like it, very cute and kawaii. Keep up the good work!

is this really a reliable way to render heads?

>>1459752
Jesus Christ...

>>1459752
Pretty sure Ashwara posted that as a joke.

>>1459752

You are taking it too literally. The image is supposed to be lighthearted.

But there are important takeaways from it. The artist is showing that she is thinking of the entire head when drawing, not just the contour that is visible. And the bean shape is easy to rotate mentally, and easier to remember.

The awareness of form in totality is crucial even when drawing stylized cartoons, and using a simplified form such as a bean or an egg and building up from it is what would allow animators to draw consistently and quickly and without the need to reference constantly. These are fundamental concepts of construction.

Anyone know where I can find a gallery of this guy's work?
http://exhentai.org/g/595912/af30902919/
Sexiest style I've ever seen.

>>1459441
I like this, you got a deviantart page or somewhere you post your work?

>>1459763
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=480469
His pixiv. Next time try using the doujin database, they usually have links to artist's sites.
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/

>>1459772
Thanks bra

>>1459772
>mfw he's a brony
Oh well, art's still good.

>>1458746
/ic/ idol master

>>1459905
2wide

>>1459905
fug

>>1459645
Mags is a dude

>>1459645

God I'm glad I never went to /jp/

>>1458380
My Little Anon Can't Be This Shit

>>1459959
Magister is referred by others and him/her self as a female on medical whiskey and on deviant art she said to a comment that she is a girl, she had some creams and lotions and such on a picture of her desk and some asked if she is a girl and she said yes.

Do people lie about there gender outside of mmos too now?

>>1460112
>Do people lie about there gender outside of mmos too now?
I wouldn't be surprised

>>1460112
I've heard magister is a beutiful woman, yes.

>>1460112
you've never been to her streams have you?

>>1460150
"her" streams
http://www.livestream.com/magicalnekolenlen

>>1460171
she has the voice of a goddess

>>1460175
and the face of a demon.

>>1460112
gender is a social construct anyway. for instance, I have the body of a grown man and a penis but I identify as cute 10 year girl.

check your cis privlage.

>>1460112
do you evn /b/?

>>1460112
Yes. Yes they do.

Made this some time back. It was my first animu pic ever. Have made 3 altogether :D

>>1460208
i lurv me some steampunk

Great work, you! :D

>>1460223
Thanks!
Here's another one that i did after this one, but in half the time so it's actually not that nice. Just wanted to make something really sticky sweet too, it is kinda anime thing, I suppose..

>>1460225
sorry, i'm a massive mongoloid and talentless pricksack to boot, but this is what I saw in the thumbnail and I just can't unsee it

>>1460225
>>1460240
Oh sweet Jesus did I lol when I noticed it it!

>>1460240
omg LOL

u win the internet
also my third animupic, made in 2012

>>1460241
+1

Btw, guys. Any nice method to draw realistic manga...? For example things like Vagabond (see pic) and Berserk...

>>1460283
another example...

>>1460286

Same 'method' as with any other style of manga I'd imagine. Both rely on an understanding of reality, to achieve what you've pictured just requires you to exclude less details.

>>1460283
>draw realisticly
>apply screentones

>>1460283
Learn to draw real life humans.

>>1459763
Turtle Fish Paint? I think he's Chinese, there's always a Chinese dude that is better at whatever you are doing.

>>1460328
reminds me of a story from when I was a kid
>Best drawer in class
>Everyone in class loves me
>Suddenly chinese exchange student
>Way better than me
>No one ever thought my drawings were good after that
;_;

>>1460330
You were supposed to overtake him after being inspired to work harder, idiot.

Here's a picture I drew during my lunch break at work.
I know it's really basic, just two faces, but there was a point to it.
I was trying to draw the same person once as a male and once as a female and trying to add features that differentiated their gender by using only the face. I usually suffer from ma serious case of same face, so this was kinda practice to get away from that.

kawaii

>>1460401
The style isn't very appealing on an aesthetic level. The eyes just look like stickers, the necks are attached very oddly, and the hair is straight from the 80's.

>>1459764
http://geekasaurus-rex.deviantart.com/ or geekysideburns on tumblr.

>>1459950
Wanna addon but don't think I can

>>1460542
Alright man, watching you on deviantart because I don't use tumblr. I swear I've stumbled upon your page before, but I don't remember.

>>1460415
This is yours? I don't know what to critique here but still I like it. Those colors.

>>1457598

>>1460551
do it. YOU BITCH. DRINK A BEER AND FUCKIN DRAW. YOU MOTHERFUCKIN BITCH

>>1460415
reminds me of ozoi.

I've been drawing for YEARS, /ic/. This is a quicky~ what'dya think!

>>1460551
Me too... I attempted, but it looked too shit since I can't into fabric

>>1458063
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand that 3rd pose is boring

>>1460527
How about this one?
WIP

>>1460608
Could it really be worse than fan-hands? Just stick it up there.

>>1460612
I think you'd do well to move the nose over a tad. Don't forget that you can use a crossed box to find the center line of two objects, though note that because the nose falls on a plane slightly above that of eyes, the bridge is still lightly to the left of the center from our POV.

>>1460628
Thanks, never knew that about crossed boxes.
Guess that's what I get for being self taught.

>>1460628
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
I tend to just use a center line and build off of that, but I'll try crossed boxes next time.
Is it aesthetically any better than the last one I posted?

>>1460633
I'd say it's an improvement for sure. The eyes have kind of shifted to a Disney extreme but they show more three-dimensionality than your other example, and that's the important thing.

>>1460612
How long have you been drawing?

>>1460646
Too long. longer than I care to say.
I've only been improving little by little.

>>1460664
Well it's good and in the sort of style that I really like. Hope I can catch up.

>>1460618
welp okay

>>1460618
welp okay

>>1460671
Why thank you!

Can someone comment on this?

>>1460715
I think the torso is a bit too long. Judging by the length of the legs, if she pulled her knees up to her chest they would only go partially up her ribs. If you try making the pose in the mirror you might notice where the proportions are lacking.
Good job keeping the dimensions in check though! Contour lines are useful.

>>1460715
You've got the head and the breasts resting on the same horizontal even though the head is obviously going to be in front of the breasts. This suggests that the camera is directly on the floor, but then you've got the legs on another plane and the arm as well.

So lower the head or bring everything to the same level.

>>1460719
>>1460730
Thanks. I actually am seeing something wrong with my drawing but can't seem to notice where.

>>1460556
yes its mine. n thx
>>1460594
who?

anyone use manga studio here?

is there a filter or something to make pixelated lines smoother.

>>1460762
das cheating

i have something to post, comment are welcome. these are character concepts for a comic I've been working on for the past year. A modern sudo-fantasy love story.

>>1460762
I'm using it and i can't achieve those jagged lines. It smooths it all. Maybe try that smooth filter or duplicate layer and gauss blur it a bit and combine? Dunno, there aren't many fllters there.

>>1460719
>>1460730
So I tried adjusting the hips like the two anons suggested.

Also changed the position of her right arm and head.

Currently working on this

any advice?

>>1460803

>>1460816
is the nose really in the right position?

>>1459950
Apparently this pose is very difficult? I don't think any of those entirely fix it.

Id like to try some manga style inking in photoshop.

Whats the best tool and options for doing this?

>>1460816
Fix that thumb.

>>1459950
is... is this you ltdseagull?

>>1460208
torso is mikufag long

After Pudge, I've draw something less kawaii (sry). Any corrections about the shadows or the face?

Also, any tips on coloring? I've heard that you have to take a straight in order to shade/enlighten brush then blur after. But what is the tool to blur? (that seems to be the easiest way)

>>1458672
I <3 you seagull dude.

>>1458911
I <3 you too cowtits dude.

>>1460841
The original pose isn't difficult, it's just very bad, especially when trying to convey a character like that. That's why everyone changed the pose, because it's not just the anatomy that was wrong with it.

Please rate and critique my drawing of Chen.
How to make my lines look better in GIMP?

>>1460715
>>1460827

I think this image is relevant to your drawing.

It doesn't look like you know where the torso, waist, and pelvis begin/end. Draw through, draw the body sections as if they were transparent. Draw a side view and project it like the right side of this pic.

>>1460715
>>1460827

I think this image is relevant to your drawing.

It doesn't look like you know where the torso, waist, and pelvis begin/end. Draw through, draw the body sections as if they were transparent. Draw a side view and project it like the right side of this pic.

>>1460961

>>1460827
Try taking this pose yourself. I think the main reason it's giving you so much trouble is because it's not a very intuitive pose.

Wow, a whole thread dedicated to ignoring the fundamentals and being bad.

Huh.

Can we get a janitor, please?

>>1460993
No one is ignoring anything, they just suck.

>>1460993
Anime threads aren't breaking any rules. Nothing a janitor could do, even if he wanted to.

>>1460994
>>1460993
>hahaha_oh_wow.jpg

I'll get the new thread once we hit page 1.

>>1460993
These threads aren't dedicated to ignoring the fundamentals, it's just that so many of the "artists" who contribute to them use drawing in a manga-esque style as an excuse to forgo learning to draw. I see comments in every thread from idiots who claim that they got into "drawing anime" because they dislike realism. These are the same idiots who, for the most part, refuse to acknowledge that they're shit and refuse to step up their games and put some effort in. Ignorant morons like these post shit work because they seriously believe it's good. Good artists contribute less frequently, mainly because there's fewer of them, and perhaps also because they're more critical of their own work or engaged in practice.

>>1461030
Good artists don't contribute here because you shit this thread up. Also point me those posts from retards who "don't want to learn".

3/10 because i responded. But you tried so hard to troll so have fun with your attention.

I bet you don't even draw.

>>1460827
there's still a lot of problems with it. I think the best course of action is to use the concept for some directed sketching. do take the pose yourself and get a feel for where all of your body parts lie.

which misaki is this, anyway?

>>1460906
get yourself a good head turnaround and pay attention to what happens to the eyes.

you don't have a very good understanding of the forms of the head yet.

>>1460961
Do you have the link to all of teal's critiques? The one in the sticky is missing a good deal of them.

>>1461056

I got it from http://imgur.com/a/8eHzD

>>1461060
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!

>>1460816
some notes

>>1461063

You do realize the brackets with the "wide" labels can be interpreted in several different ways, right

>>1461071
meant 2wide

>2wide

2wiiiiiiiiide

>>1461088
>>1461088
>>1461088
>>1461088
>>1461088

>>1461063
Thanks anon. I really appreciate it.

>>1457719
loomis can never fuck you up!

>>1458140
You have way too many ingredients in the pot.

>>1460283
Are you serious? Just pick up volume one of Berserk and watch the guy develop his craft over the years. He gets better with each volume.