/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

cant figure out face and hand

I know it's awful but I had to sad-draw something.

trying one more time:
obviously, its far from finished.
its heavily based on the painting of napoleon, I just want to tweak it a little. I could use some pointers regarding his right hand, the horses face and tail and probably how to put in the sword so it looks natural

>>1443731
i think you've missed some of the basic considerations for figure drawing.

the design, color scheme, and rendering are all nice though.

/ic/, stop doing redlines. it's hilarious to see a redliner who themselves are just learning. all this paint over and redline shit is malignant as fuck.

Started doing posemaniacs.

>>1443764
i assume you mean to imply >>1443758
is poorly done?

>>1443764
This.

/ic/ has been at it's worst lately.

One must develop the ability to filter out bad crit/suggestions.
This skill is tested vigorously during the summer

>>1443764
>>1443773
>>1443775
calling samefag unless you guy(s) actually want to specify why >>1443758 is a bad crit.

>>1443778
I said nothing regarding your crit.

>>1443773
>/ic/ has been at it's worst lately.
You haven't been here for long then.

>>1443778
Yeah, as far as I can tell everything in the red line is perfectly valid. The original picture conveys the person squatting in a uncomfortable way.

>>1443775
an excellent spin to put on it. i agree, i was being an asshole.

>>1443793
it's like, not even a redline though. just some really vague tips and shit. and i wasn't really referring to just that one. also the paintover of the she-pilot, and the numerous other redlines and things i've been seeing lately. inb4 post work.

generally, redlines should be done by people who are way above the one they are redlining.

>>1443801
how is telling someone they should think more critically about their figure's pose and mind the center of balance "vague tips and shit"?

>>1443803
let's quote directly from the pic, because obviously you're a little defensive tonight:

>both legs out?

>move her torso over and down
>move leg too
>center of balance


dude, fuck off. you didn't even redline anything. you just jerked it a little with a red brush. b2r with you.

>>1443803
also, notice how you didn't address the forshortening on the right arm, which is THE glaring issue. once again, gfy.

Oh, chaos is back, still retarded as fuck... -_-"

/ic/ will only accept crits if the critter is at an obvious higher level.

To avoid getting shunned you just have to post without an image and spout some lame bullshit about sticky, Vilppu or Loomis

>>1443807
>>1443808
you seem to be the one with sand in his vagina, bro.
just wondering since i do want to get better.

if you can do better feel free, all i did was try to help that guy out.

>>1443811
i was guessing conmana.

>>1443812
>>1443811

You're saying just in spite of my anger. What I'm saying is truly albeit a bit harsh. Try not to be so sensitive, it's the internet for Christs sake.

No progress will be made if someone who should be studying hands out advice. This is what losers like miku do. Please take your privileged, sensitive attitudes somewhere else.

>>1443814
conmana isn't a single person; he's a failed experiment.

but of course, how could you know this..?

>>1443815
how is my clever well thought theory even related to the bullshit you're spouting now, fucking secondary.

>>1443817
there is a single guy who posts shitty art under the name conmana. referring to him.

>lel i implied he's a newfag go meee XD

>newfag
>posted in wrong thread

Final update

Practice drawing from imagination, 40 mins

>>1443731
looks like she's squating to take a shit

>>1443749
Why are you sad Anon?

first fan art piece ive done in a while

>>1443853
I know why I'm sad.

>>1443860
because you are fat?

>>1443861
No because I'm a dog :/
bark

>>1443766

>>1443857
This better turn out to be a good reaction image.

>>1443870
yeah, that's the plan

>>1443862

My condolences,
Must be pretty... ruff.

Trying out a new technique with overlay layers. I think it turned out alright for being 2-3h

Reference was heavily used. Took one from the ref thread, I'm sure you can make out which one.

Gimme a good critting!

>>1443898
very nice
i would add more detail to the eyebrows and make the lips lighter. and add an adam's apple

Having troubles with this figure.
I'm not very good at this...

help

>>1443929
her right arm is too close in. pull it out as well as the shoulder. Once you move the shoulder you may want to move the neck and head over some.The back of the head should be bigger from the right side i think. Then put more detail in the hands. Also add some more muscle curves to the legs (especially the left one)

>>1443850
not sure if this is your style or not, but either her eyes are too wide or her chin is too thin
i do really like your coloring though

>>1443850
for some reason reminds me of Meg from Hercules

>>1443731 >>1443758
here's what i did

I personally like the cat :3 though I halfassed it and spent more time drawing the other guy.

I don't know if I should start to draw Miku again I am starting to like to actually draw real things instead of stylized characters now that I have had a taste of the real thing...

>>1444006

>>1444013
lol how'd I know the cat would be picked as some kind of meme I had a gut feeling about that. Okay that's it I want to draw more of that cat.

>>1443944

Did some of the things you said, then through a quick animu sketch on it.

Should I just stop?

>>1444014
you drew freakin louis wain cat. jesus. when are you actually going to study?

>>1444026
Y-yes ma'am I'll start to study Perspective tonight.

What about the cube guys?

>>1444006

Are you making a study on that guy who drew cats on acid? He's fucking awesome.

Anyone have his name?

>>1444063
see
>>1444026

.

>>1444078
Thank you based anon for fixing his work.

>>1443731
>>1443758
>>1443994

>>1444083
Thank you based anon for reposting your fix of his work.

yeah it's still pretty shit, but we.

i'm getting there... feel like completely taking out the stupid whale lol sky totally steals the show anyway

>>1444098

preventive "hurrdurr 3d effect"

fuck off i think it looks cool

>>1444006
Wow mikufag that Leo is sweet, good job! moar!

>>1444098
> sky totally steals the show anyway
what? Those white stripes just make me think i'm looking through a dirty window, this sky kinda sucks, but you look so happy about it that i suspect you've been looking at it for too long. Without the whale, there's nothing of interest in here, a bland, super flat beach, and i have to guess the sea is in our backs...

It's still overall pleasant to look at, but it looks like you went in there without much thinking first... Next time try some thumbnail versions of what you have in mind before you start drawing it in its final size, chances are the first one you come up with won't be the best...

>>1443934
haha this looks like it's been half noob-traced, but along the tracing the anon felt guilty, and decided to try to come up with the rest of the features using his IMAGINATION! This way, it's not completely cheating, and it shows! hahahaha!

You want help? Check the sticky first!

Halp

>>1444182
Good facial detail and good detail on the helmet. You should be careful with the torso because I see two things that might make it look off.

1. Your face is directly from the side, yet you can see the left tit sticking out as well as the front of the stomach.
2. I have a feeling that the torso itself is a little to fare forward. Looks almost like he is puffing out his chest and leaning back. Maybe make the torso curve back to the hips and not just strait up and down.

my first oil painting, it's garbage but i learned a lot. onto the next one

>>1444207
not garbage.
i like it.

>>1444200
Cheers man really appreciate the critique. I was going for the puffed out chest look :)
Should really flesh it out some more and give a better example then a sketchy chest

>>1444346
base of the structure looks to be on a different plane than the water. it was a good try but I think you should actually read up on perspective.

>>1444348
Jup. Does this fix it?

>>1444346
Heh.. Bajs!

>>1444357
the green stuff in the shade is the same value as the green stuff on the lit side

>>1444360
That was intentional, since I tried limiting myself with five colours. I did deviate a few times.

>>1444357
You dont have a horizon in the picture. If you think of yourself as looking from a boat, it looks like a solid wave moving away from you. Not the line from a horizon. It looks this way because of the size of the skum on the waves.

Look at this photo, you an see the dark sea rising up behind the rocks to the sides of the light house.

I also think that your values vary to much.

>>1444366
You're right. Thank you very much for the helpful advice, but now I'm going to bed :)

A doodle I made trying to simultaneously learn painting and construction. So I did it of my favorite subject.

This is from imagination. I tried to do it from a reference, but it just turned into a mess of me trying to copy values rather than render forms.

>>1444369
My second favorite subject.

>>1444369

So you'd rather draw a plank with tits on it?

OK.

I'm so happy I didn't get into drawing just to draw jerk off material


captha sultrly comfort

>>1444373
Like I said, I'm trying to learn construction. Maybe you missed that part.

>>1444375
you are so lame

>>1444377
also note that it's a doodle, and not even finished at that.

>>1444381
srry 4 nt beng aspie fucctard lol

:3

>>1444377

Put the painting aside and focus on construction then

>>1444385

FIX HER RIGHT EYE

FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT

>>1444387
I'm equally shitty at lineart. Probably moreso.

>>1444392
but it has nothing to do with that either

learn to construct before you make your little porns

>>1444369
Looks like a shitty tree trunk with shitty tits on it

>>1444401
that's my kind of tree.

Work in progress, thinking of a background now.

I want an opinion and help if possible, help with hands and faces, i never seem to make a good hand/face when i draw a human body.

>>1444394
Tell me then O guru, which is the only acceptable medium for learning construction? Sculpture maybe?

Just a quick doodle.

>>1444405
Stop trying to draw details (ie: the tentacles) before you have a solid grasp of what the final shape of your body will look like. you are thinking way ahead. Find some references for the body. Not only are the head and hands messed up, but the body proportions are also wrong. It is difficult to see which way the body is facing.

>>1444415
How about you try to construct correct shapes first? Sure titties are easy, two orbs on a rectangle surface. But there are a lot more shapes under there. Look at reference photos and just try to draw simpler shapes in perspective first.

>>1444421
>Titties are easy
>Don't draw them, draw something easy
Pick one

>>1444424
I meant they are easy in themselves but you are complicating things before you should.

Second part i meant to say simple, my bad.

>>1444419

Thank you, your advice is well received, my problem is more the human body, i don't usually draw humans or humanoid shapes, only creatures and some objects, i find the hand to be the most difficult one, the face too but the hand, oh god...

>>1444427
https://www.google.nl/search?hl=en&gs_rn=12&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=ihA57SAYxbJgavM33X5htQ&suggest=p&cp=11&gs_id=55&xhr=t&q=human+hands&biw=1745&bih=850&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46226182,d.d2k&ion=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=0XuKUc25NuSZ0QXsjoCIAw

Get started practicing.

>>1444388
Who cares about the eye! Fix her right boob Mikufag! The boob!!

>>1444404
> thinking of a background now.
implying you're happy with what's there now? No wonder no one has anything to tell you -_-"

>>1444434
Why so small? Anyway, good start, i like it a lot...

>>1444441
>-_-"

Get out.

>>1443849
That's one weird chin. She looks scarred.

>>1443850
So that's what Victoria Beckham and Cheryl Cole's love-child would look like.

>>1443886
It's a doggy dog world.

>>1443898
Uncanny valley territory. Stick with keeping it cartoonish OR detailed and realistic, not both.

>>1444439
Is that really mikufag? Or just some guy using the cat smiley?

If it's him he's come a long ass way from drawing praying mantis mikus.

>>1444170
you... managed to make him look normal. Bravo.

You know one eye is meant to be higher than the other, right?

>>1444366
That is one sexy lighthouse. I wish I lived there.

>>1444098

i cant stop staring at the whale, looks nice. keep it if you drew it. might want to add more to the sky. up to yous

>>1444369
Well hello there sweet thing! Are you a lumberjack? Because you give me major wood!

>>1444462
of course not.

>>1444415
Paper and pencil, man. Are you even familiar with what construction is? The second you start painting it, you're no longer constructing it.

Watch Vilppu, read Hampton - they'll teach your construction. Even Loomis has sections dedicated to it, but I forget which books.

>>1444369
Secondly, you way you want to learn painting and construction. You can learn both by painting still lifes. It's nowhere near the mess of 'copying values' as it would be for a photograph. Stick with simple forms like eggs, apples, mugs at first. Construct the object in perspective. Once that's done, paint it using the underlying construction as your guide.

http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/simplifying-form
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/drawing-shape-simple-still-life
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-1
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-1-5
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-2

>>1444499
>Secondly, you way you want to learn painting and construction
you say you want to^^^

>>1444439
B-but I don't even own a drawing tablet yet, not me. All my work so far has been traditional.

>>1444538
why the fuck do you post other people's work in a draw thread then? retard

>>1444547
I never posted it though, that's some other Anon randomly going :3

I can't help but feel a little...invaded

ahhh on the internet on my own computer lovely

anyhoo nutmunchers I want to translate this to color ASAP I usually go overboard with grayscale so I want to avoid it.

Ive tried color layers multiply layers to adjustment layers. Anyone have a good process for color washing?

Can someone please redline this ?
I can't find good reference for the arms and hands
:(

>>1444569
Still bad :( , and it only gets worse
Please help

>>1444569


Goodness those hands, keep in mind the size of a persons hand is comparable to the size of their face, Put your hand on your face and walla! If you're a fat old man , I apologize.

babbysfirstdrawing.jpg

>>1444574
Is it any better (regarding size) ?

>>1444098
too deep for me.

>>1444585


You're almost there, In your case Id take a camera replicate the pose snap it study it and repaint it. Trust me I've been trapped in images for millions maybe hundreds of millions of hours.

Also uhhh the arm is fucked

>>1444558
Overlay with soft edge brush

>>1444441
Sweet palindromic quints.

I'll see tomorrow what needs fixing and then I'll probably post it on DA.
It's been some time since I've done any epic fantasy. Feels good, man.

Beginner here. After taking a look at some guides and whatnot (and yes, I've looked at some Loomis but no, that's not what I used for this) I sketched this. I'm not really looking for a redline or anything like that but I am looking for an opinion on form. The guy's body seems to be ok to me, I don't see any major problems with deformities or proportion but then again I'm not as sure what to look for. Am I on my way or am I in desperate need of more Loomis? Also please ignore the derp star in the corner and the sheer edginess of my sketch.

>>1444445
Sized it down to upload it for quick crit. Thanks!

>>1444619
I honestly don't think you are ready for Loomis yet. I think you should study simple forms and perspective first. Practice doing value and learn to control your tool.
What I'd recommend is look at some beginner tutorials on Ctrl+Paint and give them a shot.

how is this pose wise?

>>1444634
Strange. Do some gesture drawing for a bit, pick poses you like, and build on them. Eventually you'll get better at posing that way.

>>1444633

Ok, one question though. How are my proportions? They seemed fine to me earlier but now the legs seem too short.

>>1444640
>They seemed fine to me earlier but now the legs seem too short.
That tells you how the proportions are. You should take more breaks from your work as you're in the process of drawing. It gives your eyes time to rest so that when you come back to it, you notice things like "legs are too short" before you go on to the next stage.

Or alternatively, you can flip your work by either scanning it and flipping it, or holding it up next to a mirror.

>>1444642

Ok, what about the shape of body parts? Again I don't see anything that looks deformed but I'm probably missing something.

>>1443731
>>1443994
>>1444083

>>1444640
I'll repeat. Don't bother with such complex forms while it's still apparent you don't know the basics. The image you posted is not ready for critique, especially since you seem to concentrate now on the least important things (for this level of skill).
To answer your question - your proportions are not very good. For instance, legs are too short. Everything seems flat and the form doesn't look convincing. The shading is very random.
You can get there, but don't try to build a roof, not having walls, not having foundations. Simple shapes and forms are boring but they will help you get better. Seriously, I've been there.

>>1443898

Fixed it up slightly in some places in response to crits.

>>1444655
no.

>>1444153
thanks for the advice. i didnt feel guilty, however.
the thing i was tracing had the hands cropped out.
i'd say this is my 5th time drawing on a tablet.

>>1444681
Tracing ain't gonna get you anywhere m8

>>1444660
face is too narrow/the second eye and eyebrow is to close to the nose.
Mouth looks weird and chin lacks proper shape.

>>1444444

hi, Im really new! so I start learning perspective, this is my first study, its ok, but, how can draw small boobs?
first, I try reducing the curvature, but, doesnt work, can someone help me with a tip!!

thanks

>>1444691

hi, Im really new! so I start learning perspective, this is my first study, its ok, but, how can draw small boobs?
first, I try reducing the curvature, but, doesnt work, can someone help me with a tip!!

thanks

there is something really wrong, i can't figure out what

>>1444434
QUIT POSTING THUMBNAILS.. especially when what's in the 'thumb' looks good, keep painting and show us more in higher res!

>>1444697
also need some critique on this there is always a little something that bugs me about my drawings but i can't put my finger on it

anotha sketch from imagination, i was colouring it then i got pissed off and scrapped it

>>1444703
Forgot about the neck and stuff herp derp

>>1444697

This is really neat! But I think you've got your contrasts wrong. If you want to focus on those characters in the center, having the most-foreground be light in colour is wrong. You should make these lightest grey ones very dark, like silhouettes, so that the viewer ignores them and focuses instead on the robots in the fore-middle ground. Try it?

>>1444684
ok ill stop

>>1444706
thanks, i knew it was something dumb
do you see anything else?

>>1444706
thanks i knew it was something simple but i just couldn't figure it out
do you see anything else ?

>>1444684
well actually traced drawing is an exercise according to the sticky

>>1444711
It's looking better, but I'd make them even darker in the foreground personally. That'll make the robots in the middle stand out.

Also: if the moon is /behind/ that large skyscraper structure, how is it being lit? That of all things should be fairly dark because the lighting would be eclipsing it.

Drew this recently as part of a 4 face thingy... Wut u think?

>>1444716
Really sorry bout size too... :s

Still wip, i draw nearly 2 weeks now

http://i.imgur.com/8JkgX4e.png

>>1444736
is this some kind of mutant chicken with dwarf head?

couple of the cooler sketches from recently.

Practicing drawing heads.

Speedpaint

Drew another similar one. This time no ref and at 2h.

>>1444760

I like it.

>>1444593
Thanks for the tip , it really helped :)

>>1444755
You are the coolest thing on /ic/ next to teal line guy. I've seen your tumblr, but do you have any finished pieces?

>>1444388

>>1444895

You are constructing without either A. developing your gesture or B. drawing a gesture at all.

This is unforgivably stiff.

The torso and pelvis are completely unaffected by gravity and distribution of weight.

>>1444895

You are constructing without either A. developing your gesture or B. not drawing a gesture at all.

This is unforgivably stiff.

The torso and pelvis are completely unaffected by gravity and distribution of weight.

>>1444870

I agree, but I've only ever seen him post sketches.

His process is highly gestural. I loved his sketches he did in a class he took.

>>1444870
that really is too much honor, thank you though. the lack of variety in my tumblr shows the amount of complacency i have when it comes to art. i plan to make a comic or something eventually, but for now it's mostly sketches.

>>1444907
a class I took?

I try draw but I'm not very good i just doodle really and have been for a, little while but i don't doodle often this is what i drew when i go outside and doodle while smoking a cigarette.

>>1444934
where can I get a couple of boxes of that stationery?

>>1444943
Same
Love me some 'MURRICA in the morning.

>>1444943
No clue i think it was from an office supply store

>>1444385
it looks like gravity and physics does not apply to her boobs

I'm >>1444207
I kind of like yesterday's painting better but I got to try new colours today. Gonna add seeds and shell webbing when it's dry, pretty sure I'll turn it into mush if I try today. I'll go fix those shadows now though, ew lol

>>1444955
I disagree, to me it looks like they're stretching downwards, as boobs do in that stage of a stride

Update i went over with pen to define it. Sloppy but i don't try cause i kinda suck

>>1444963
Mmmm...that melon looks scrumptious and it actually made my mouth water hehe.

how 2 draw a man screaming without it looking like a retarded old man

>>1444965
It's not about the downward pull, it's that they should swing if she's running. Torso should also be rotated more.

>>1444968
Total clusterfuck. You need to improve your line work and learn to describe form.

>>1444968
too much unnecessary chicken scratching. draw a line as a solid, uninterrupted line, and if you drew it wrong go over it again differently. chicken scratching means all your lines are somewhat wandery and wonky with no solid form

>>1444990
I totally agree that's my main problem i just never take my time to Clean it up because I'm afraid if i did it still look bad so i don't want to try

>>1444977
I think you meant to go to google.

Esentially, the answer is - study the faces of screaming people. And old people.

>>1444993
i am
just getting a bit frustrated ;_;

Any recommended pens/markers for doodling/drawing

>>1444997

Prismacolors or Copics

>>1444997
mechanical pencils and brush pens are all I use for doodles. I have zebra pens but pentel are good too apparently. if you enjoy drawing then anything that lets you make a mark will do though

My pictures always smudge/fade with pencils and it gets hard to see detail and pens are more permanent and I'm not the best i don't know I'll have to practice more. I'll upload a picture that's much cleaner i used Both pen and pencil In ten min ish

>>1445015

Reminds me of The Manhattan Projects...

>>1445015
>>1445024

Reminds me of Django Unchained.

>>1445015
draw lines with more confidence and less breaking/scratching

>>1445037
What did you think of that movie, by the way?

It was pretty strange for me. It went back and forth between super-hilarious-spoof-over-the-top and super-serious-badass-deep-stuff constantly.

I wanted to like it so bad, but that really got me.

>>1445041
Different guy, but how the FUCK do I do that? My stuff is good and solid, but it's just insanely fucking sketchy-looking.

>>1445047
it'd probably help if we had an example.

>>1445047
same guy... just draw one line not smaller lines to make a line

>>1445047
that's because you're drawing it.. sketchy. there are different ways around this, but ultimately you just have to change your technique or your lines will look like you've glues together thousands of toothpicks. Draw very lightly a general shape, DON'T be scared of getting the shape wrong. You are more likely to get it wrong if you draw 10,000 agonzing baby strokes than 2-3 passes on top of each other at the whole thing, or a good chunk of the thing. Does that make sense?

>>1445047
Think about the line before you put it down. Think about where you want your hand to go, slow down and envision it on the paper. It's a little different of a mindset, and it's slower so it might feel uncomfortable at first, but it's the first step in confidence and control.

>>1445047
Do line exercises. Don't go nuts on it, just until you get the hang of it.
It's basically drawing different kinds of lines at different angles. There's a slow set and a fast set. It's just about controlling your lines.

After that, you've got to apply it. Try to draw an apple with as few straight and curved lines as possible. Every time you lift your pen/pencil/stylus, that counts as a line. So keep it minimal, and don't worry about drawing too long of a line. Remember, you can always erase it if it's too much, but a broken line can only be re-drawn.

>>1445047
>four replies in three minutes
awkward.

>>1445043

I liked it a lot, though a lot of the goofy stuff like the occasional rap music and cheesy one-liners was pretty unnecessary and broke away from the seriousness which I enjoyed more.

Also that part when he shot the lady of the house was laughable. She flew backward at completely wrong angle with way too much force.

>>1445049
>That awkward feeling when you regret calling your own stuff "good".

>>1445051
>>1445052
Those both makes sense. I'll try keeping all that in mind.

>>1445055
Do you have an example of the sets?

>>1445057
I didn't mind the rap music so much. Tarantino likes to pick his music before he makes the movie, some kind of strange distrust in film scorers. Apparently things end up turning out different than you intended sometimes. I get that.

The lady shooting was laughable. The being shot with too much force thing happened near the end at the cake and negotiation in the library part, too. As well as the bag on the head scene in the middle of the raid. I was totally into it and then they're all arguing about how they fucked up their eye holes and can't see shit.
That happened a few other times, as well. I don't quite recall.
Tarantino is pretty hit or miss with his stuff most of the time, so I'm not surprised.

>>1445059
>Do you have an example of the sets?
Indeed. Give me a minute and I'll post them.

Sorry for the delay if anyone cared.

>>1445061
Okay, here goes.
1/5

>>1445065
2/5

>>1445067
4/5

>>1445066
3/5

>>1445068
5/5

>>1445062
>>1445063
Apologies for bumping you off of the thread preview. Here guys, look at this person and help them.

Round 3.

mascot for an electrician's company

>>1445065
>>1445066
>>1445067
>>1445068
>>1445069
Thank you very much, I'll try this.

I tried the upside-down method following the Betty Edwards tutorials but the face seems flat to me

>>1445075
Is he going to keep those green outlines? They look strange right now, like he's radiation man or something. What else were you planning to put in there?

This one's still a work in progress. Rough sketch. I got a problem with drawing piles of rocks for this stone arch as you can see here. Tried finding some references but Google didn't help much. Any tips?

>>1445097
Upload as your progress

self portrait.. am i hot?

just wanted to draw something quick, time to get back to studieing now I guess.

>>1444634
Its good, but it looks like the lower torse from the waist down could use some work. Like the waist area and the shin etc.

>>1444695
hey man, nice draw! where did you learn to do perspective?
Oh and how did you do this drawing? Is it via an electronic drawing table through Adobe photoshop or something?

Sorry I cant give you much help, im starting out myself. If I could draw like you I would be happy =)

>>1445152
>>1444695
Dude, that's some sad as hell samefagging.

There are some boob tutorials in the tutorial dump thread, go find it.

>>1445154
Am I not allowed to ask where HE or SHE specifically learnt perspective?

Just finished this.

hi guys, this is a piece i spent about 4 days on,i'd really appreciate your input on what you think i could do to improve it.

a friend said that he's iffy about it and thought it was still too rough

thanks in advance /ic/

Coloring so far
Eyes have no depth ATM gonna need to fix that at some point

>>1445158
Really cool reminds me of something I can't quite put my finger on

>>1445157

Norlings Perspective made easy

Gnomon has some good videos on perspective

Loomis goes into it concerning figures

Most of this should be in the sticky

>>1445171

Seibah?

>>1445172
Whodat?

any feedback appreciated,
1/2

2/2

>>1445171


You guys think I've managed to give some depth to deez eyes?

Any ideas on rendering eyelashes? Tried strand by strand and it ends up looking over rendered/awkward/toosharp - Or go with the carved silhouette route?

>>1445165
that's a cute style, but his chin has some serious issues, I can't tell where it ends.

>>1445213
Don't keep a black background. Just throw a color, anything because it will affect the face.

>>1445233
The left eye is still a bit off even on my take on it.

>>1445234


Yea I'm gonna consult my ref for the eyes . And get another ref at roughly the same orientation try to fiddle around with the face.

It's a bit scratchy, but I only had my felt pen, so I had to try and cover up structure marks.

What do you all think?

>>1444931

Yeah. You drew a bunch on a sheet of classwork. I loved what you did on that sheet.

Testing texturing attempt.not done yet. crit pls

>>1445233


I'm wondering why I didn't blend with a soft brush to begin with... Turning on noise gives a lovely effect.

Anyhoo thanks you've given me a new perspective to work with

So, progress. Did some lines for the turtle and the others and I'm planning out what should I put in the background. The forest floor looks a bit rubbish at the moment but I'll fix that later with some better references

i'm trying to draw from life by constructing with shapes but i think my dog is too complicated a subject. lol

>>1445344
Construct with forms, not shapes.
A dog may be too complicated for now. Try a vase or oddly shaped bottle or something. Simpler forms that can be broken down to fewer forms at the most basic. A bottle is a cylinder with a thin cone on top. A book is a flat cube. etc.

http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/form-not-shape
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/simplifying-form

>>1445360
>http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/form-not-shape
awesome links, thank you very much.

>>1445068
I feel the tip is gonna break every time it separates.

I could use some imput here.

last update before I snoo snoo

something bout these eyes is really putting a booter on my tabooski

babby's first.

(・_・;)

>>1445573
Stop drawing everything so clean cut and trying to get things right the first time.

Work faster and don't be afraid to make mistakes. Also don't 'ctrl-z' your mistakes. Paint over them instead.

How do you guys start. your figures?

half an hour photo study

>>1445573
you got the right idea toning the canvas and plotting everything out accurately

you see all that text and logos and minute details?

I would ignore them. Pretend it's just an orange label. Also watch your temperatures. The photo is greyer than that. Also, why not just get a real bottle and plant it at the edge of a table and paint that instead?

>>1445255
LEL IT EVEN HAS A SIGNATURE HAHAHA

>>1445642
>why not just get a real bottle and plant it at the edge of a table and paint that instead
that's exactly what i did.

sorry. i forgot to mention i took the picture afterward... lol

What is up with conceptart, how can they fuck up the site this badly ?

I can't into everything guys.
Help me figure out the body (arms + legs + neck)

>>1445699

>>1445699
The reason I went there yesterday is that I'm getting back into art after playing my escapist mmo's again. I wanted to find some artists to pump me up again. And their fucking site is down. I guess I need to work a little harder and browse through the blogger/tumblr sphere.

I really hate tumblr and DA and blogger is just too convoluted...

wanted to see if I could induce a psychotic episode, then draw while 'under'.

This is the result. Don't remember the process or why I chose to draw this specifically, but it was about a 2 hour process, going by when I induced and when I came out of it.

Interesting process. I wish I could have recorded myself working on it, to see where my thought process was during the whole time.

>>1445171
>Really cool reminds me of something I can't quite put my finger on
Thanks, it was pretty influenced by Moebius, so perhaps that's it?

Trying realism for the first time in years. What are your thoughts /ic/ The good the bad? And what might I do to improve?

>>1445824

Her left eye and right cheek look a little big to me.

As an aspiring artist , i need advice , im pretty new to drawing , i can say i know the basics but inever actually learned to draw , just some ocational drafts.
Any tips? Advice? a Good Drawing / Sketching program?
Pic related. its a handmade draft by me.

>>1445824
Nice salad fingers and, unless there's a reference, seriously messed up breasts. Also the fact you felt the need for a signature, hilarious.

>>1445835
The nostrils are a bit narrow along with the mouth, the eyes are messed up and the neck muscles are weird. Check the sticky, Polly wants a cracker. Use a reference.

>>1445824

It looks like you're doing a hair bit of guess work on the anatomy, gives it a somewhat stiff/flat look.

>>1445841
>fair bit

>>1445835
Horse anatomy. Look in the second tutorial thread, there's a DL link for a really good book in there.

>>1445705

Starting to render.
I'm not exactly sure how to handle multiple light sources.

>>1445805

I like it a lot.
It's nice and creepy without giving off that "trying too hard" vibe.

more progress

Incomplete but I'm done with this one.

>>1445935
this made me thirsty,
10/10

>>1445940

I couldn't drink it sadly, I'm in the process of passing a kidney stone.

>>1445932
That green is still too saturated.

>>1445941

It'll get toned down a bit when I curve the values at the end

>>1445942
;__;

>>1445542
The light source is behind her legs (and magically goes thru the skirt without casting any shadow), but on her face it's in front of her. Pick a light source and stick with it.

More head practice

>>1446001
looks like you're heading in the right direction, hue.

Practicing faces.

>>1446077
Eyes are too close to one another

Try to space them out a bit

>>1446077
I recognize that one on the middle top from another thread around here. You're doing good, keep going. Watch those proportions, though. Actually, there's a good post you should read here >>1446083

Work more on visual measuring and drawing what you see.

>>1446089
One eye width apart. Imagine a third eye put inbetween the normal two.

>>1445942
ouchhh, I've heard that's some of the worst pain. Good luck to you, anon.
Hope you'll get better soon.

>>1446089
Oh yeah, you're right. Will do.

>>1446091
Yeah, used it as an example of how messy my pencils are. I've spent most of my drawing day practicing lines to try to tighten them up. And thank you, I'll follow the advice in that post. Been meaning to read that book anyway.

>>1446096
I think I tend to sketch them out properly first, then ending up extending the eyes too far inwards when adding details. I'll watch for that.

>>1445859
Just a little bit of facial proportion issue. Make sure you're zooming out a lot to check. I even zoomed out and saw some errors in my blueline I was able to correct.

Nose is a bit wide and long, which pushes the mouth down. You sensed the face should be shorter, which is good, but because the mouth was out of place he ended up with no chin. Hairline got a little warped, and the back of the skull got a little clipped. Fucking skulls and hairlines, man. Hate that shit. Ear needs to be moved back a bit.

Eyes are good, they definitely have volume. But the need to be a bit more orb-like. Love the shape of the lips, be careful not to make them too big. I learned the hard way that the secret to plump lips is not size, but shape. You're already onto the shape, work with that and accentuating them with contrasting values.

I'm terribad at anatomy but the deltoid is too small. Make sure to make it apparent that the hand is of the man's LEFT arm. I stared at it for like 1 minute thinking it was on the right arm, asking myself what the fuck was going on. It is a beautiful hand tho, props for that.

I'm no expert but I hope this helps. I'm absolute shit at bluelines but its hard for me to figure out what's wrong unless I go in and mess with it myself. Maybe it will help you.

>>1446112
You sound like you know a lot about drawing. Im not the guy who drew the original but I would like to see some of your work please if you have a website or somewhere you have uploaded some images?

>>1446120
I've gotten pretty rusty. Honestly I'm a one trick pony, only thing I've ever really studied is anatomy. It's very strange having one set of your skills higher than the others. I regret not branching out more, though during the summer I hope to change that.

First day of summer sketch journal, did some figure sketches, continued on an older painting, and I'm about to paint a quickie from guy on left.

I really want to do more landscapes, I think. But I wanted to ease myself into a daily regime with something I'm used to. I'll be posting in draw threads every few days, hopefully. Once I have a few pieces, I'll make a tumblr or something. Having people to pressure me to actually finish shit would be good.

mma or wrestling is great for figure drawing, if only for the bizarre poses they end up in. It's definitely a challenge to pause randomly, and force yourself to draw whatever you see.

>>1446128
thanks for sharing.
Here is some pressure. ''Go draw that guy on the left now!'' =D

Heads for the head god.

>>1446128
Haha didn't expect to see someone actually post their art when that guy requested it.

The mma drawings can be more focused on construction as right now they look pretty contour-based. I can also see you aren't really thinking of how the scapulas fit in there, which is a shame because there is some interesting stuff going on there with the poses.

As for the portrait at the bottom, his face is in a different perspective than the rest of his skull (face is 3/4 view one way, skull/ear is 3/4 the other way). Basically you wouldn't have nearly that much skull showing on the right side, and the ear would be viewed from for of a front view (should be put into perspective more).

How am I doing?
It's my first time drawing a more complex object from real life.

I actually have this thing lying around, so this isn't a photo reference and not from the exact same angle.

>>1446112
Fantastic, thank you based anon.
I had realized how bad the face was but I just couldn't put my finger on it.
And you really captured that handsome feel I was going for.

last night scribbles, couldnt sleep

>>1446182
pretty good dont skimp on the hands and feetsies

will do! cheers

>>1446142
You're very right, on both accounts. I wish i could get higher definition films of the mma fights, because when you pause them they do get a bit blurry, which makes it hard to see musculature under the skin. Most of the musculature I add is just improvisation. But the poses are just soooo exciiiting.

Already fixed the skull, looks way better. gd ears.

last practice of the evening. I lack the ability to capture a likeness. I tried to line the pictures up, but my proportions are off so mehh. I see the right eye is a little overdefined, but other than that I just can't finger what I'm doing wrong.

This is too difficult for me ......
please critique me......

>>1446254
original photo

>>1446258
>>1446254
I'd say to focus on line only in the beginning.
Once you can draw properly, painting will be much easier.

work in progress

>>1446295
Can only say i like it, and so far it is very clear

>>1446295
looks great.
perhaps you can add some warm color on the vehicle to make is look more forward

>>1446258
Take it easy with those highlights. Look the image from afar or squint your eyes and you will see that no part of the face is that bright. Is more or less the same value apart from the darker areas on the eyes, mouth, bottom nose.

>>1446328
Thank you.
I just tried if I can get the value correctly from reading a color picture.
It seems I totally failed.

>>1446335
Well you need to learn how to get value right first.

You're trying to draw what you think is there. The upper area of the mouth usually is lighter usually so you go light, the part next to that is usually darker so you go dark. That's what you have observed in a lot of pics so you're approaching this study with preconceptions.
Get rid of them when you make a study. Draw what really is there not what you think is there.

>>1446327
sure thing, thanks! heres also a quick sketch inspired by the nice weather

Just did this in a morning on an A5 sketchpad, can I get some critique.

>>1446362
and with quick colors, got to go back to work, maybe update later

>>1445977

Thanks pal

>>1446392
Tell me your secrets, goodartist-san

>>1446392

I jello

did some more updating when i had a break

>>1446482
she looks more wild now, but less cute ;_;

>>1446482
Nice! Keep going...

And I was wondering, I'm having a hard time doing poses like this (with a lot of foreshortening and stuff) and it's a hassle to always having to search for reference photos that matches what's in my head... I'm considering buying one of those Art S. Bucks artists models (the female one) and I was wondering if anyone has any experience using these. Are they articulated enough to put in most "classic" poses? Do you find it useful your self when you are stuck on something regarding a pose? I have a male True Type I sometimes use as a male reference, but the legs doesn't move enough at the hip to allow for a lot of poses...

>>1446562
I'd just practice till I could draw the poses from imagination.

swuishhh

>>1446579
looks fuckn swish brah

Hue

>>1445779
The nose is weird and the hips look like they're facing the wrong way, but apart from that I'm really digging your style.