/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

H-how's this?

nyeh

I'm still learning.

Tryin' to draw Shura from Ao no Exorcist because reasons.
I kinda want to do it in a Mucha type style, but for right now this is just the pose sketch.
How horrible is my anatomy?

Sorry for bad phone quality and I know the perspective is off on the rear tire but what do you think?

dude is supposed to look jacked up

Yolo

>>1440834 Good start so far. I hope you are going to really clean up the forground

>>1440923
>How horrible is my anatomy?
Facial proportions are off. Overlap of her left wrist is incorrect.

Her left thigh is about a third the length it should be..

>>1440945
Thanks for the tips.
I tried fixing it up a bit.
Is that any better?

trying a new style. How shit is it?

>>1440990
fuck forgot picture

>>1440990
Very minimalistic

>>1440992
I giggled.

>>1440991
What was your old style?

Probably going to re-do most of this picture already but a bit of non-serious personal stuff for a change.

>>1440942
Wouldn't the light beam cross the entire wall? What you're projecting onto the cross implies that the window is infront of him. Try going to a church on a sunny day and look for yourself, you can do more with it anon.

>.
still need to figure out how I'm going to make the city look real but loose

I decided to try and get used to photoshop, so I did a quick self portrait from memory.

>>1441015
Bit of an update.

>>1441060
I really like the dynamic pose of the horse, well done! The woman looks a bit stiff compared to it tho... and her torso seems a bit short.

>>1441070
I wish I could take credit for the horse, haha! Alas it was partially based on a painting by Frazetta. The girl, however, was from imagination which can kind of explain why her torso looks so odd. I suppose I can't get away with not fixing it, thanks!

>>1441070
I *think* that's better. I should really just find a reference but my stubborn side wants to see how I can go without it.

>>1440941
it's a cool idea but the car itself isn't very well done.
pen looks great, graphite needs its values pushed.

>>1441042
Loving the theme you got goin there
>>1441048
Colours are too saturated and you shouldn't leave the linework over the top of the painting

>>1441074
Pfffffh, can't believe how I completely missed the text on the pic that said that!

>>1441048
color adjustments and/or color filter or whathaveyou generally look bad and should be put on hold until you learn to paint with color. they just can't replicate true colors, it's hard to explain, just speaking from experience.

Study

diddles for today. Ughhghgh, probs won't pursue any of these, well maybe one.

Trying to transform my out-lines into paintings, it looks so bloated...

>>1441207
Thats fucking sexy.

Here's something im working on

need crits

>>1441228
the legs around the guy closest to us are a bit blurry/unfinished. Besides that, very nice work

>>1441228
Figures too dark (both the birds and the 5 figures in the mid-ground, but especially the birds).

>>1441236
Yes I was struggling with values a bit. I think I used too much black overall...

>>1440944
I don't know if I should be taking these to completion. I'm still trying to figure out a process and I don't think it would be economical to pour time into em.

>>1441228
I'd say you went a little overboard with textures/brushes. Specially the little dots, they look too graphic and out of place to me.

>>1441042
>>1440942

I intended for thelight to come from high and behind.

Not sure what you mean by loose, but replacing that rock wall and the man made wall with some outskirtish buildings may help make it look more open. although you may have wanted an isolated look

>>1441228
your vanishing point for the metal shit is fucked up and the water slopes too much to the right. level that shit out. digging the background and the right rock face, though

from posemaniacs random pose viewer, advice will be appreciated

practice painting with value from imagination
inspired by that artist im watching on dA (he posts here sometimes)

>>1441297
Why is this upside down?

>>1441236
>>1441258
>>1441270

>>1441299

Perspective is off, but I'm not sure how. Any advice on anatomy/shading techniques would also be much appreciated.

>>1441300
Much better.

I especially like what you did with the metal thing.

>>1441313
its funny because he didnt do anything to it

>>1441310
study dino skeletons first

Polished up the pic from the last thread slightly. Not sure whether to go for fullbody or not.

>>1441325

Still looking good. I would save a version of it as is and duplicate it to try the fullbody.

>>1441325
I'm confused as to the perspective--are we looking down at him or is this a straight on shot?

Critiques about composition/anatomy/perspective much appreciated.

What is Color adjustments/color filter?
Should I just use black and white?

sketch

animated

>>1441357
Straight on shot. I can see why you\re confused though, his torso could easily be misinterpreted.

I made this mockup for a full body pose. Note that I am notoriously shit at gesture. Anyone have anything to say about this pose before I go any further_

>>1441042
gonna finish up this dude and then add a goat

thoughts?

>>1441394
How about, a robot/droid. Or or or ...A robot goat/dog thing like BIGDOG by DARPA.

>>1441374
Awkward. Look at real fighting stances.
For what you were going for, she should be shifting her weight from one leg to another. That means leaning forward on that stretched out leg before springing back to that back leg and so on.
As it is, she looks like she's humping that stick. Also, boob physics don't work that way.

http://www.algarcia.org/AnimationPhysics/BalanceTutorial.pdf
Check that out, it should explain some things to you. The animator's survival kit is worth looking into as well.

>>1441360
bull and girl looks good, but the composition is confusing. There's no clear focal point, sword pointing at the corner leads the eye off the image. Also it unbalanced with everything cramped on the left.

>>1441394
I like the colors and brushwork. what kind of brushes/technique you are using to get that textured look?

fas sketch

>>1441394
mhhh, great painting technique.
Would love to see more, you got a blog ?

my newest piece. I'm reasonably happy with the design, I could have drawn it out better.

>>1441469
ears, waves, wheat?

>>1441437

do you like my sensitivity?

>>1441469
Here's another

>>1441477
that's p cool

>>1441474
waves

>>1441480
Ive had this printed on a t shirt. but still waiting for it to arrive

>>1441475
a lot

>>1441372

colors and valuess

how do I into painting landscapes?

>>1441437
even without flipping i can tell one eye is bigger than the other. still pretty cool for a fast sketch (/jelly)

>>1441486

big fan of your work man. your chicks are stunningly beautiful and feel very alive.

>>1441495
B-But anon that is so good...

>>1441502
you probably just looked at the thumbnail.

>>1441500
you're right, could fix a lot of mistkes but that wasjut a warm up sketch so didnt really bother

>>1441501
thank you

>>1440953
Is she stabbing herself in the chest? If so if think you'd be able to see the sword coming out of her back at that angle.

did a self portrait for fun tonight, might use it as a facebook picture or something since I'm pretty happy with the likeness.

how is the symmetry? my face isn't that symmetrical anyway but does the antisymmetry really throw it off?

>>1441477
>>1441469
I love these they're great.

>>1441549
Dont worry about the symmetry.
All looks quite okay.
Decent linework aswell.
of course it looks kind of flat, since it has no shading whatsoever, but as this was intentional, thats okay.

Maybe add some colour somehow though?
Something that catches the eyes attention.

>>1441360
bull looks great, i would rethink her pose, make her look more threatening! also you can add to the dynamism of the piece by adding debri n shit

>>1441557
Thank you

>>1441559
Thanks, I tweaked it a little bit, there were some real issues like the inside of the face was wonky and the nostrils were different shapes so I fixed that.

I kind of like how everything in shaded but the hair is just the background colour, I think I'll just leave it like that because I think adding extra colours will be jarring, thanks for the feedback.

>>1441403
A robot wont fit in unfortunately

>>1441425
A lot of subtle texture brushes, some of the painting is me cannibalizing older unfinished paintings into it.

>>1441454
yeah here: http://acidenema.tumblr.com/

update

slow going, but it's starting to look better

>>1441601
You really need to fix the eyes, tho

Il just post this one here,
Is probably a better idea then starting a thread of my own.

>>1441603
I personally think the eyes need to be a bit lower.
They seem to be too high.

>>1441606
Exactly what I was thinking

>>1441606

just flipped it vertically, I see what you mean. I'll go back and fiddle around a bit more.

>>1441603
question: when you say "fix the eyes", do you mean shape, orientation, size, location, something else entirely?

>>1441615
Not that anon, but you've also got everything skewed to the right.

>>1441615
Dont you hate critique like that?
The pic i posted (the red girl) got me the response, dat neck...

How useful...

Anyway, personally i think they are perfect if you just lower the eyes, till halfway her ears.

>>1441615
Additional info, eyesockets need to start above the cheekbones, however in your pic theres an empty space between the eyes and the cheekbones, which causes the eyes to look off, just position them above the cheekbones, which is halfway down the ears.

>>1441618
haha, yeah, I always thought it was 'great' when people just give a knee-jerk reaction to the question "how's it look?"

but thank you. Her eyes were actually skewed on one another; fixed the orientation of our right eye (her left), and it looks a bit better. Thanks for pointing that out!

>>1441616
Is it? I've been flipping it back and forth so much this whole time, I've forgotten the original orientation of the image. But I'll go back and see if I can fix the skew. Thanks again.

>>1441624

you're right again. I was wondering about that; such is the issue with not working from a single lit reference. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>1441618
I don't mind things like that, it's just someone saying 'hey, you'd better look at the neck and again it's not right' the critique I hate is when people just call it shit in general without any real specific thing to say.

>>1441626
Now if someone is goin to explain to me whats wrong with the neck of my Chimeara, Vays. :)

Unless that personw as talking out of his ass, i always learned that collar bones of woman point downward, and since i like to exaggerate like they do in Comics and anime, i pointed them downwards harder.

Or are there other area's that dont look aesthetic?

>>1441633
well, the reason i dont think its usefull is because the neck consists of countless bones, tendons and muscles.

Also the neck runs from the lower face, all the way down to the collar bones, theres over a 100 things that can be wrong with it.

Saying , dat neck, is no more helpful then error guessing, and shows a very poor nature in criticizing.

>>1441633
>the critique I hate is when people just call it shit in general without any real specific thing to say.
That's actually against our rules, so report it when it happens.

and a quick update after shoving her face around.

You folks were definitely right about the eyes; the look a bit better to me already, so thank you for that.

Otherwise, I'm trying to find references for the cheekbones and eyes, which is a bit harder because while it's something I notice inherently on women, I don't outright pay attention to it as much. So I'll delve into that further in time.

>>1441642
A tip about that hair, don't draw strands individually like that. The best way to do it is the ribbon method. Look it up, it's a post on Gurney Journey (Can't link blogspot here)

>>1441642
google a skull, youl see the position of the eye sockets compared to the cheek bones, they are pretty close to each other.

>>1441638
yeah but if someone doesn't feel like writing a paragraph they can still at least point you in the right direction, it's not like they're being offensive.

>>1441648
It's the lazy way out. If someone puts in effort on a painting, you should put effort into your critique. Even if you don't know how to articulate it, you could say something explaining why something looks off. Not everyone will instantly know what's wrong from looking at something, especially when they've been staring at it for hours.

So maybe you don't know what specifically wrong with it, but notice the neck is too thin or seems to slope funny. So say that. It's better than nothing. The alternative is looking at a real neck versus what you're critiquing and studying up a bit before you critique so you can be helpful.

Like i said, dat neck is not pointing in the right direction.

That like saying, dat face, to the guy who fixed the eyes.

>>1441652
>should
>should
>should
what? nobody, SHOULD do anything, if they want to write a detailed critique they can, I usually try to be as helpful and informative as I can, but sometimes people just don't have it in them at the time, maybe they're tired and just wanted to let you know that you should focus on the neck.

>>1441652
thanks, thats helpfull, because saying you dont really know, means the fixes dont have to be big either.

I could try widening it, or change the collar bones if that is what you mean with sloping.

Btw, how do the colors look?
Do they look awkward, or does it look aesthetic? or somewhere inbetween?

>>1441633
when you get "it's shit" it means you have to step it up. compare your work to an actually decent piece by another artist and see where you went wrong. if that still doesn't help, you need to train your eyes and in general work on your aesthetic sense, if nothing else.

>>1441655
then they shouldnt respond.
They dont have to be kind, but at least done be rude.

>>1441658
it was the other guy who said that, not me the anonyman.
I am the guy from the red girl, that got the dat neck comment.

Generally i hardly get any comments at all, and when i do get any, there are not very helpful.
Not sure what to think of that, no news is good news or something?

>>1441659
lol I think you're just sensitive, if you think it's not helpful and they weren't being offensive or unfair just ignore them. no body on this board owes anybody anything, we're here because we want to be.

>>1441658
Wrong. When you get "its shit" you should ignore that faggotry and ask for a real critique.

>>1441662

>>1441659
isn't
>>1441652

>>1441658
no you're wrong, 'it's shit' doesn't help at all and it's rude.

>>1441672
Il report people next time, tnx

>>1441670
>'it's shit' doesn't help at all and it's rude.
Exactly. That shit is in our rules, even.
https://www.4chan.org/rules#ic
>Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.

>>1441666
Indeed, that aint me :)

>>1441672
>implying /ic/ has mods.

>>1441677
>implying /ic/ doesn't

Did this for someone :/

>>1441680
I've never seen evidence of mods on here.

>>1441670
>>1441663
oh please, didn't you ever get "it's shit" and wanted to show improvement the next time you posted something? i did and i improved somewhat. what's worse is if your art is ignored and you just lose all motivation, it's like who cares.

>>1441682
http://www.4chan.org/faq#moderation

>>1441683
no, i only recently started showing work, and have been drawing for 10 years.
What i am new at is coloring, started last week when i bought a tablet.

But got no comments on it, so i suppose its acceptable.

But ofcourse there do was a point my art was shit, but thats years ago, tho, i am still not nearly content with what i create.

>>1441683
btw, i never lose motivation.
I do not draw for the attention.

I draw because i want to express my idea's and enjoy creating images out of my thoughts.

>>1441683
No not really, if some anonymous asshole (the anonymous part is important, their tone and how they look is left up to my imagination) tell me that my work is shit without anything more just hta it's shit, all I want to do is tell them to go fuck themselves, I know it's not good that's why I'm not being paid to create artwork yet, I want to know WHAT to change.
>>1441685
I don't mean like that I just mean how shitposting threads stay alive until they 404 after a few days, and /ic/ is slow as fuck it's not like the mods are overwhelmed.

>>1441683
And that's you. Not everyone reacts the same way. When I got that, I got frustrated because I didn't know what specifically was wrong with it. I tried fixing it but it got worse and I eventually just gave up on it.

In any case, that bullshit isn't allowed here, so why are you defending it?

>>1441690
how naive, you should do it for money. you won't get money without first acquiring attention.

painted over a study i did..

>>1441693
I might not ever earn a single dime for my work.
Would it not have been a waste of time then if all i did was do it for the money?

No sir, i do it because i am passionate about my idea's, i love creating fantasy species, and even if it will never get me anything, i will still have enjoyed myself, and gave a physical form to my passion.

>>1441693
Not everyone wants to become a pro, you know. Most are content with this >>1441690

And that's fine.

>>1441695
nice work, some tips.
Crotch area needs to be a bit lower, generally its 3 and a half heads down.
Also, right upper leg should be extended, its only half as long as its supposed to be.

>>1441697
you are mostly right, i still would love to become a pro, but nothing is lost if i never make it.
Crafting my beings comes in first place.

Hey /ic/ I'm trying to set up a reference sheet for a character in a comic I'm working on.

If I can have some advice on 1,2, and 3 it would be appreciated. I can't feel confident at all with my quaterview and feel he looks retarded or off from the other two.

4 is the style they will be inked and 5 is a cleanest lines I've done of him.

>>1441642

Hope this helps, also, calm down

>>1441704
When it comes to 3, it needs to be a bit wider, a human skull from the side is not round, google for the side of a skull.
Then youl notice his jaw needs to be longer.

Also the eye needs to be moved a bit forward on 3, his eye sockets are too deep.

I got a bit of artworks!
I can show you guys, here i post some now :)

Here is another one!

Here is a funny one!
But it is a bit scary too at the same time!
DO YOU GUY REMEMBER THIS? XD

I have a some works that I would like you to comment :)

Here is another funny one!
He does not know that he will get a virus on his dads computer!

This man has alot of money so he smokes in a pipe and are happy!

>>1441719
that happened to me too darn often when i was a kid.

Still alive tho :P

>>1441724
XD I know right?!
Here is a nice I just made! :D

>>1441718
a feeling i know too well...

This one I can not show my parents!
So i put in in the trash on my computer so they will not see it!

>>1441714
so the back of the skull needs to go further back? But I don't understand the jaw? It's on the same line as the other ones.

This one is funny!
But i have heard you can get jail if you do pictures like this!!!

This picture really illustrates a period of my life when I was really, really balanced and generally happy.

>>1441706
Thanks for the input and helpful visual reference.

Also, I wasn't aware I needed to calm down, but I shall try, all the same. Thanks for the concern.

>>1441729
THIS ONE TOO!

>>1441730
I feel that that picture is a sad picture!

>>1441731

My bad, i meant calm down in general for this thread, i phrased it wrong (must be the lack of sleep) Also youre welcome

Update from last thread, I went back to the drawing but I still feel like I can't capture her well enough.

Especially having trouble with the mouth.

>>1441742
you've made her upper lip too big and put too much curvature into the line of her mouth.

I think you should adjust the values of your reference if you're planning on only drawing her and not her environment.

>>1441742
You need to start with midtones and work from there, instead of starting with white paper. Your values feel wrong, like everything is burnt. Eyes are misaligned.

What Sensitivity does everyone keep their Wacom on? Just the default one? Softest? Just curious what others have tried, i've been experimenting with it lately, and there's quite a difference.

>>1441752
I think mine's softer on the eraser but harder on the pen.
Really, it's all about your preference.

Frontal postrait sketch without reference. Mostly trying to get lighting and volume rendering as correct as I can.

>>1441571
Thanks. This is why I love these threads.

I changed her pose and added some color.

>>1441855

>>1441783
Wow you chose hte worst viewing angle (straight front) and the worst lighting (completely diffuse/ambient) for showing forms and volumes...why not try to paint the head from another angle and with a more direct light source?

For critiques on what you have...since the light is so diffuse, you wouldn't get strong specular highlights like that spot on his forehead or the highlights in his eyes. The eyes are a bit cross eyed, and the upper lid appears flat and not wrapping around the ball of the eye. You can also try to introduce a bit more colour variation in his skin, certain parts tend to shift towards certain hues/saturations (ie, nose/cheeks SLIGHTLY more reddish from blood in general, jaw/chin more of a desaturated blue/grey/green shift to it). Lastly, the pure black background doesn't really fit with the lighting on his head, if the lighting is diffuse like that the surrounding areas would also be lit.

>>1441783
jesus christ, I hope that crosseyed bit is on purpose. Pretty decent drawing otherwise, but that's a amateurs opinion.

Current project: memorial dog portrait of my moms teacup chihuahua who recently passed away at the age of 13.
Havent decided on the background yet, focusing more on nailing the likeness of our recently passed pup since this picture will be displayed with his ashes.
This is also the first time I've ever painted fur so I'm having fun experimenting with different methods.

Anywho, comments much appreciated!

I got the same commission from the same people, but two years apart.

>>1440901
Use a hard brush and eraser

>>1440846
Stop tracing and start drawing

I've never really drawn from life before because I spend way too much time drawing animes and comics, so I figured I'd finally get around to trying a self portrait. Way more fun than working from photo ref, thats for sure.

how the fuck do you draw chest hair

>>1441908
painting rocks but tell your mum to get a real dog next time. Buying mutts and designer breeds directly only propogates non-championed breeding of unhealthy dogs.

>>1441943
Orrrr.
You could ignore your dog bias and keep on topic.

I'm drawing for about a week now, i hope i will be good if i keep drawing.

I only don't understand the study part of drawing

>>1441943
What the other guy said and your opinion is fairly misinformed anyway. We're here for art not dogs.

Also for the background maybe one of his old favourite haunts?

>>1441437
Sexy.

>>1441695
Her right leg has a kind of toothpaste tube look to it - y'know, starts off cylindrical but flattens to a plane where it meets the crotch. Probably due to the way you've shaded it?

>>1441909
2011: Both have man-faces
2013: Both have feminine faces

Wat?

today's sketchy face

>>1442068
she looks like a reflection in the water. Bravo loish, if thats you.

>>1442096
not loish lol, I dont think my brushwork looks nything like hers

I've seen a lot of people shitting on Loomis lately. What happened?

>>1442068
Its nice... unfortunately, this style is getting slowly on my nerves

>>1442103
its not an over-used rendering or stylizing style at all

>>1442105
Nigga you must be sarcastic

>>1441908
I really like it but to get more likeness there are 2 things I'd change

1. The white fur around her eyes should be larger above her nose. Look at the brown strip of fur on her pictures, it's much narrower.

2. I think you made the mouth a bit too curvy, if you made the mouth line a tiiny bit flatter it would also look more like him.

Also, pointy ass fur.

>>1442068
Ears are very small and too low I think.

>>1442190
you dont say

opinions? criticisms? comments

>>1441909
Im sorry but why are they all dwarfs? Do you or did they have a dwarf-fetish or something?

>>1442130
What a helpful critique! Thank you kindly!
Also, I was aware of the pointy-ness of the fur, I had planned on smoothing all that out in the later stages of working.
Thank you again!

>>1441909

Two years, and you still have no concept of perspective.

>>1442298
Looks fine to me.

>>1442299
The horizon line for the background appears to be 1/4 up the image, while the figures/body seem to be seem to imply a lower horizon line.

>>1442190

Proportional deviation. Perfectly within reason.

I'm more concerned with the lack of economy. There's too many strokes that don't contribute anything to the piece. Also, the eyes are entirely too out-of-focus. For an element that naturally will draw the most attention in a portrait, they are muddled and ugly.

>>1442191
I just did.

Dear Miku, keep at it, also find the pokeball - don't post though. Rather quite obvious... sniff

>>1442372
...what? Why are you being so cryptic hehe

>>1442383

Truthfully, The pills I've been taking have started to kick in - so I'm rather cheery as of late. Wanted to bounce out some encouragement *happyface*

LEST WE END THIS CONVERSATION

>>1442372
THE LIPS ARE A POKEBALL EVERYONE

Where do you guys get photos for your heads?

Any tips on rendering slime? I'm still just cleaning up the shapes so I can add that detail later on.

>>1442414
Just google some.

>>1442414
Movie screenshots usually have some nice face close ups and such, great color and lighting as well.

>>1442202
reference man

Update. I think I'm going to stop working on this one, I still see mistakes but I don't have the skills to take this further right now. I'll work on more basic stuff and do more studies.

I've learned a lot from this though and I think there is a decent improvement along each step.

>>1442471
now draw a face from imagination. It's cool that you're drawing from reference, but don't forget to apply what you've learned.

>>1442423
that's pretty cool. I think your slime looks good, just needs some more color blending. But the spine is misplaced, it seems it's starting somewhere from the shoulder.

>>1442044
>>1442298
>>1442215

I tried. only usefull crit I got out of that is that they could look less short.

also no I'm good with perspective.

>>1442467
The cranium is far too small compared to the jaw

>>1442517
Hence why the jaw is smaller, according to the red lines.

Pin up, want to get a collection together and try and sell them.

>>1442309
Im completely agree with you (im the guy who draw the girl) eyes and hair are my weakest point, gotta work on it

>>1442489
Not trying to emulate a full skeleton but I dismissed the fact that the neck isn't aligned at all. Thanks!

>>1442101
Shit got edgy.

the loud and stupid minority decided that parroting loomis was getting old

Value mockup for env. painting with a Jeep.

Anything look off to you /ic/?

>>1442474
One needs to be able to copy accurately (from photo and life) before they can draw anything meaningful from imagination. Ideally you'd develop a construction method from drawing from photos and life that you re-use when drawing from imagination.

>>1442471
Your proportions are all over the place. Face is too large for the head, nose too long, mouth too low. The contours of the head look like a lumpy mess.

Did you construct the head with anatomy in mind, or did you copy the features? If you did the first, you need to take your time and be more meticulous with your measurements. Look for key features of the skull (like the keystone shape in the browline) and get those relationships correct before you lay down any deatils. If you did the second, be sure to look for the large shapes and get them correct before moving down to smaller shapes. There's nothing inherently wrong with copying, but you need to be able to do it accurately before you can do complex construction.

>>1442609
foreground darks could be pushed a bit more for a better read on the right side I think.

>>1442525
The knee is too pointy, and the edge of the thigh too wobbly. The pinch of skin at the back of the knee doesn't look too believable.

She looks to be off balance because her extended leg doesn't plant underneath her center of mass.

You've got a bad tangent between the plane turbine(?) and her buttox. You could use some atmospheric perspective to push that plane deeper into the background as well, because right now it visually gets lost with the cockpit.

I'm not a fan of those half gloves, but her right wrist needs some work regardless.

I'm also not found of how visually busy the bottom of the canvas is compared to the rest. You have a bunch of gritty details with the plane's cockpit, the second plane, and the cityscape, whereas the rest of the piece is a lot more airy.

anyone remember the thread about how the concept artist for mirrors edge traced/copied off a book art cover? do you remember what book it was copied from?

and I remember an anon emailed that artist and they replied a reason why it was acceptable, does anyone remember what that was?

I would like to request a picture of a "tree man" that I've been working on for a novel.

He's got Bark Skin, branches here and there, leaves on him and he wears no clothes. He's about 4 meters tall.

I would want the picture to have him walking in a forest, but I'll leave the details up the the Drawfriend in Question that picks it up.

>>1442667

not a request board

>>1442673
then where the hell am I supposed to go?

>>1442678
try the /tg/ draw threads?? unlike other boards, the drawthreads on /ic/ are for critique, not requests.

>>1442679
then there is no board left I can go to.

I tried /tg/ but they paid me no heed

I tried /co/, due to my novel being partly Cape-based and they more or less forced me to delete it.

There are no drawthreads on /lit/

I will never ask /d/ or /v/ to do this.
where. can.I.Go.Now?

>>1442678
/r/

Sometimes you find a friendly drawfag on /tg/ (since your request sounds gaming/DnDish).

Alternatively find a place where you can pay for commissions.

>>1442621

I used a mix of both. My knowledge of anatomy is not developed enough to rely on it.

Not sure about the face being too large for the head.. The eyes were too high which made the nose seem longer. The nose was also larger than it should have been because I was basing it's left edge on the placement on the left eye. By moving the left eye (her right eye) to the correct position and then moving the left edge of the nose accordingly, it produces an accurate result. The left corner of the mouth was also based on the left eye and moving it with the new left eye position fixes the problem.

shitty 30 min sketch

shitty 30 min sketch from imagination

>>1442690
You can go on DA and try to find someone that does requests, or find someone to commission.

>>1442414
>>1442450
Yea, watch Game of Thrones

>>1442722
that "movie" is color-processed to hell and back, i wouldn't recommend it for color study. if it's just value and proportions, it's ok.

>>1442633
Really? I thought that would make an interesting composition. Making the bottom half busy whilst keep the big open sky open.

Despite the crazy amount of differences, how does mine look as an image. I was thinking mostly about color + value, and making something actually look like an environment.

>>1442609

Finished it. I'd appreciate a good critting!

>>1442768
I liked your mock-up better. You made the environment around the jeep a lot more boring and somehow ended up making it all look less detailed.

>>1442775
I see, I went and removed the distinct crags and made it a ravine full of rubble. I now realise how shit that sounds. I'm going to make another version more true to the mockup in a bit.
Thanks mate.

>>1441495
did you color pick?

The original canvas is much larger, because I thought that would have a more claustrophobic effect in contrast with the little box. Not so sure now.

I think I'm going to either move the hand in front of the face, or dial back on the detail of it.

Thoughts?

>>1442817
ahahahaha fuckwit
if you're going to use a game as a reference choose one that doesn't have absolute garbage pleb art. moron.
lellellel tophats r so wacky

>>1442838
Hey dumbass:

https://www.4chan.org/rules#ic
>2. Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.

>>1442846

seemed like a fair critic to me

>>1442866
Read these and try to say that again.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/constructive+criticism
>Definition: criticism or advice that is useful and intended to help or improve something, often with an offer of possible solutions

http://moonlightspectre.deviantart.com/journal/The-Art-of-Critique-give-and-accept-feedback-214178779
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/critique

Practice after reading the book.

>>1442901
Looks fairly decent to me.
Hair is rendered well; ears too big.
Face seems rather rough on middle.
Facial features are small compared to the rest of the body.

>>1442901

>>1442923
Thanks!
I was really worried about the facial features getting too big so I reduce the size of them a bit but it turn out not good. And I have just noticed the ear now.

>>1442926
Thanks, initially my guidelines on the face were actually curves but I don't know why they were flattened out in the process of adding features. Maybe I should keep the guidelines on a seperate layer.

Does anyone now a good smoke/dust tutorial? I'll probably ref it anyway, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

>>1442930
It's more about drawing those features in perspective than anything else. The eyes, for example, are the same shape; making it look flat.

>>1442935
Something like this? I have just realized that what I did earlier was symbolized eyes...
Also fix some parts like other anons suggested.

>>1442961
Better.

>>1442961
its not about fine tuning and 'fixing' one sketch, it's about understanding mistakes and correcting them. his ears are way too high as well. just draw more of these, don't polish

>>1442748
Well, there are a few problems with that. You have a seat, plane, and cityscape occupying the same region in the bottom right corner. They feel crammed, and I honestly think removing the plane would help (it'd also eliminate the tangent problem).

The main issue is that you have a lot of visual noise in the bottom quarter of the canvas. Once the eye is lead there by the figure, it gets lost there, bouncing around in details that are too close to the edge to be important. These details are relatively high contrast and fine in size, which makes them compete with the face as your focal point. You ideally want to design the canvas so that the viewer's eyes are lead around the piece and to the focal point, not get lost at the edge of the canvas. Lead the eyes in, and keep them in, not out.

>>1442969
His ears aren't 'way' too high. The tops of your ears line up with the corners of your eyes, and if he's holding true to the curve of the face, then they are a touch too high but otherwise in just about the right spot.

And fixing sketches is a great way to understand your mistakes and correct them.

Polish more, man.

>>1442969
Yeah, it seems that I need to do this more to get out of the symbolized drawing mindset and get the proportion more accurate.

An honest plea

Working on a waifu simulator game with a friend

Fuck, I don't even really know how to use a tablet. That's why I stick to the binary tool. Are there any guides on what tools to use/the settings required to get a desired effect?

>>1442974
....but his ears clearly are way above the brow ridge even.

>>1442935

A bit of advice for drawing smoke:

1. Think of smoke like hair: a grouping of forms creating a large, irregular form and a texture. Use a single base value for the entirety of your smoke cloud and add or remove value as necessary to create the the shapes within the smoke.

2. Smoke has color. Not all smokes are black. Keep this in mind when working with color.

3. Use outlines and varying outline line weight to give your smoke a sense of direction and flow. Smoke is highly gestural. For some simple tips to give for more dynamic smoke, use thicker lines on curves (where the smoke is changing direction) and thinner lines on thinner connections between your smoke shapes. Also, denser smokes should have thicker outlines.

4. Don't be afraid to use outlines. They exist to help make the forms of your smoke readable and less ambiguous. When in doubt, use an outline

5. Smoke is a fluid. Understand what smoke you are drawing and understand how it's atomic mass will affect how it moves through normal atmospheric conditions. For example, sublimating carbon dioxide does not float in air.

6. Smoke density DOES NOT EQUAL dark smoke. Again, smoke has color.

>>1442980
Reminds me of this

>>1442935

A bit of advice for drawing smoke:

1. Think of smoke like hair: a grouping of forms creating a large, irregular form and a texture. Use a single base value for the entirety of your smoke cloud and add or remove value as necessary to create the the shapes within the smoke.

2. Smoke has color. Not all smokes are black. Keep this in mind when working with color.

3. Use outlines and varying outline line weight to give your smoke a sense of direction and flow. Smoke is highly gestural. For some simple tips to give you more dynamic smoke, use thicker lines on curves (where the smoke is changing direction) and thinner lines on thinner connections between your smoke shapes. Also, denser smokes should have thicker outlines.

4. Don't be afraid to use outlines. They exist to help make the forms of your smoke readable and less ambiguous. When in doubt, use an outline

5. Smoke is a fluid. Understand what smoke you are drawing and understand how it's atomic mass will affect how it moves through normal atmospheric conditions. For example, sublimating carbon dioxide does not float in air.

6. High smoke density DOES NOT EQUAL dark smoke. Again, smoke has color.

7. Finally, don't over-complicate smoke by adding unnecessary transparency. If it's thick enough to be seen, it's thick enough to be opaque.

Hope that helps guy. That should help you achieve similar results to the pic that you posted.

>>1442993
You hurt me, anon, you really do. Not.
>that coloring
Reminds me, how the fuck do I choose skin tones?

>>1442402


YOU DUN BLEW IT

>>1442994
The pic is the thing I'm working on.

I'm trying to go about it with less lines, but I get what you mean. I just wanted outsider point of view since I'm trying to figure out how I would like to paint (without referencing).

>>1443000
wasn't meaning to hurt you

Calling it done.

i am trying to movement but i don't actually know how

>>1442525
Bleh, tried painting over a bit but it didn't work out that well haha...still posting it because I think a few points still stand.

-Hair, can be less monotonous in shape
-Leg that is raised...think of the femur, the attachment to the hip is too low, raise the leg
-Leg again...simplify a bit more and make forms more subtle, take a look at legs by Gil Elvgren
-Clouds can be simplified a bit more (less visual noise), put into perspective a bit better
-cockpit glass should be transparent, not sure why you have all those colours. Take a look at some photos to understand what it looks like in life.
-bg plane removed, as it was super awkward
-contrast/shininess of uniform played up a bit...I don't know the material, but I think some things in the picture need to be painted a different material, at the moment everything is the same matte finish basically.
-bg buildings flattened as they had too much noise/colour
-dark glaze put over bottom part of plane to remove some visual attention

>>1443062
those are some sad looking tits

>>1443106
respect

>>1443106
Paint overs aren't suppose to be worse than the original

>>1443241

this is good paintover. Why you mad? Jelly?

>>1443285
It's obviously not. Learn to paint, nigger

>>1443289

You need to learn paint to tell what is good paintover?
why so jelly

>>1443291
Not that guy, the paintover is shit and there is hardly any difference in the first place. You didn't really fix or improve anything but just painted over stuff with slightly broader brush strokes and you made the clouds and the hair uglier.

>>1443300
>Not that guy

don't lie

>>1443301
What reason would I have to lie about that? You suck, deal with it.

>>1443106
>wtf is wrong with her hips and hair
>Lighting on the left leg is worse than the original.
>Boring bland cityscape.
>Strange green highlights
>Removing the ship makes the piece look far too empty.

Clouds look good though.

>>1443300
retard, not the paintover guy, but you obviously knows dick about it. There are "huge" anatomy and composition improvements!

The hip and the knee were slightly off and seemed detached of the gesture.

Even if the plane in background is nicely done, it disturbs and doesnt let the female herself pop enough.

Clouds continuing out of the format makes HUGE difference in composition and ads to the whole feeling that the image is actually real.

I also agree with shininess, but thats more matter of personal preference...

Hairs again makes it more living

>>1443321
not the paintover guy

don't lie.

>>1443321
>anatomy and composition improvements!

No, she looks oddly isolated from the rest of the piece. As for anatomy she looks like she has no hip on her right leg now ffs!

>>1441394
I cropped it because the top was more interesting.

don't really feel like detailing it out kinda like it like this

>>1441502

Maybe for the water but his greens are more saturated.

>>1443359
I'm pretty jealous of the way you paint. Reminds me a lot of Jaime/Craig. Any influence from that Orientalists book from the other day?

1st time here, rate plox and tell me where i fucked up

>>1443368
I found it in my local library yeah.

The print is really good, I wish I owned the book

>>1443381
Shit, I'm about to start drving around looking for it.

>>1443368
that's not a rock, it's a big mudball.

>>1443369
I'll tell you where you fucked up :
- your image is on the side, you didn't even bother to put it in the right direction.
- 2.19 megs? are you serious? can't you resize shit or do you really think this deserves such a size?
- it's weeaboo shit AND vidya shit at the same time, ugh! Holy shit and you just copied an image, a stylised image, without any understanding of 3D form or anatomy! Grrrr!! Loomis, Vilppu!!

This deserves a -2/10 flat, welcome to /ic/.

>>1443329
>As for anatomy she looks like she has no hip on her right leg now ffs!
what is perspective?
her hips are turned, b/c her left leg is coming forward. turned hips have the receding side look smaller, because anatomy.

>>1443106
you know the mistakes, but didn't fix it 100% right
>right thigh
>the fold where the lower area on the bewbs, I think it should be more intense
>you removed the ambient light on the hair, it's good, but why don't you add ambient light on her body?
but I love that you removed the plane, it's distracting I think, also the added in reflection on the glass
still that piece need more work on the values
>>1443289 just because something isn't refined doesn't mean it's bad, roodypoo

>>1443442
I mean left thigh

torso study
If you notice anything please let me know, I consider every comment

>>1443000
>You hurt me, anon, you really do. Not.
Clearly are hurt

>>1442993
Made me lol

>>1443446
neck's too long even for the original, but if it's the torso then you'r doing fine. oh, and fix his biceps

>>1443430
> weaboo shit
>posts anime pic
I took the pic with my fucking iphone idkwhy it turned out like that also yeh i looked at it and drew it but whats so bad about that? I didnt copy it verbatim. I added my own style like the water

Yeah welcome to ic.. The board of the retards

>>1443369
>>1443450
I'll be straight and constructive with you, there's no need to butthurt
>>1443430
he's mean, but he's right, you are basically doing what almost every 2nd grader can do, copying things. human minds are amazing that it's very easy drawing things like that. and the water ? no, just fucking no. if you want to be better take it hard and learn properly, read the sticky! you can call me retard too, but I think I have some experience, at least on industrial entertaining design. it's still up to you, call us retard or take it and learn

>>1443450

You are way to young, and too new, to be browsing this board.

>>1443446
Forms read really well, but the arms and hands lack a structure/knowledge of anatomy--they seem a little too simplified. But good job over all.

OK, my perspective and anatomy level is far too low to try this.
but I just tried to draw a man with 3 point perspective.
After hours of editing, tried to keep everything on the same plane, and the result is still totally fail.
Please red line me

today sketch

>>1443503
It's the almost exact same face as the one you posted yesterday.

>>1443512
repetition is the key to perfection
check all those artist who draw cool girls and you'll see they pretty much draw always the same girl with different hair

>>1443514
But they don't draw them in the exact same pose at the exact same angle, unless they are shit tier like Genzoman. Well, whatever, stay in your comfort zone and keep drawing dead on frontal view portraits of the same girl, I don't mind.

>>1443525
thank you please stay safe

>>1443514
No. No. No. NO. You are describing a fucking terrible habit.

>>1442664

It was the other way around.

The "artist" that made the shitty book cover took art from a crap ton of video games including WoW, Uncharted, Mirror's Edge, and a few others.

>>1443448
>>1443468
Thanks
I enlarged his face and his pecs to make him look bigger, I think thats why his neck is out of proportion with the rest, gonna fix that

The damn arms I know, I still can't put a finger on it, I'm gonna study arms to find out

>>1443590
Post your ref if you want more helpful critiques...

a snake

>>1443454
>>1443454
Hey faggot, im pretty sure a second grader cant copy that well. Copying or not i still fucking drew it and added my own twist. Copying is not all that bad either. It helps you improve and teaches you how to do different things. Without copying i wouldnt be as good as i am today

> pic related a shitty sketch i drew myself

>>1443446
symmetry bro

>>1443598
Notice how I intentionaly made some things bigger or smaller but as long as it looks real and not out of proportion its good for me

fixed the neck and arms ..

>>1443621
The face looks really squished.

A little background on this: This is for a friend who wanted me to draw it. I'd hate to disappoint and would love to have your feed back, i don't usually draw furry but i made the exception. Red lines would be much appreciated, i am really concerned with the right leg and the left arm. Thanks in advance!

>>1443639
Pretty good dude. You should add some shading and grass or something in the backround

>>1443621
Sorry for how sloppy the paintwork is, my computer is being super laggy and it's near impossible to paint (look at the writing lol, can't even do that).

For arms what you need is some Bridgman, he shows the muscle masses there very well as well as a blocky/planar approach, which is something that will improve your work a lot. You can then know what to emphasize and what to downplay (I tried to show a bit with the painting on the right, but again, super laggy computer means it's a bit sloppy)

>>1443639
its impossible to bend your feet like that in this position, look at some photo refs and re-do them, make them look more relaxed

>>1442768
>>1441783
>>1441391

Todays drawing.
These were my prev ones.

>>1443688
Thank you! I did this around 2 am last night and i knew i'd find some mistakes when i woke up. Thank you for pointing that out, i would have never noticed it!

>>1443659
Thanks a lot that was really usefull! I'll check Bridgman right now.

>>1443709
>>1443709
>>1443709
>>1443709

>>1443614
7/10 would slap its ass

Final update.

help
i know that the arm outline is darker than the rest

>>1443639
i feel like her arms are too thin but i may be wrong

>>1443062
you really need to get a program like paint tool sai or ps. it looks like you are using an oval brush. the eyes are an ugly color. fix her eyebrows and define her nose because it looks like she only has one nostril. dont put her clothes as plain black, put them a little lighter . find a ref and add wrinkles around her lips. also dont outline hair.

>>1442068
the neck being so small really gets on my nerves. as well as the low shoulders. but i really like it otherwise