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How to make learning perspective easy? I hate using rulers and I find it super boring

#gold

>>2504004
dont use rulers
you know how to draw a straight line right?

>>2486001
How do I get a greater sense of depth without mucking up my colour palette?

Sometimes I'm half way through a drawing and I realise it looks too flat, so when I try fix it it usually effects the colour I've already played down, I try adjust the colours after and it never looks as good

Tips?

>>2504004
Just keep the horizon in mind and think of everything as being a box.

Is it possible to achieve very smooth values with graphite pencils without blending? How to do that?

I'm preparing for entry exams to get into an art school and only tools that are allowed are pencils and erasers. At the same time I want to draw as realistically as possible - I don't want any grainy textures to show up on glass objects. What should I do?

>>2493509
Get:
-Any kind of unpolished wood, preferably lighter in colour
-A bottle or two of nail varnish remover (make sure it has acitone in it)
-A freshly photocopied image (NOT a printed image, it has to be photocopied)

>Place photocopied image onto the wood, design facing down
>Tape down the corners so it doesn't move anywhere
>Soak rag in nail varnish remover
>Rub the paper into the wood with the nail varnish remover rag
>Scrub it in and make sure it stays wet (acitone evaporates quickly)
>lift page slightly to see if image has transfered, continue until satisfied

Blah blah blah well ventilated area blah blah you can do this on paper or fabric too
Have fun

How I learn to draw anatomy with bridgman books. Thank you in advance.

>>2506857
also, if bridgman is not a good book for a beginner can i use watts atelier books to guide me in learning anatomy. again, thanks in advance.

>>2506857
>>2506870
If you're a beginner, then I suggest reading Hampton's "Figure Drawing". There's also an workshop made by him about this subject - generally speaking videos are easier to understand, so you should look them up.

>>2506773
"And in painting, the great painters never lose sight of the fact that it is paint with which they are expressing themselves. And although paint is capable of approaching much nearer the actual appearanceof nature thab stone or bronze, they never push this to the point where you forget that it is paint. This has been left for some of the smaller men."

>>2506761
All of your face values can fit into one value step.

Picture 1 is your values, picture 2 is them clamped and picture 3 is the second values applied to the original.

Also, mirrored and rotated so you could see the mouth and space between the eyes.

>>2506917
I hate hampton approach of anatomy, I tried his book. There's no way I can learn from bridgman? All artists I admire learned from bridgman, even when they were starting...

>>2506980
Bridgman is good. Most of the people who complain about Bridgman complain because they are using a really shitty scan of his work and it's hard to tell what is going on. If you buy the books things are quite clear in my opinion.

>>2506994
Glad to read that. But how I learn from him? Just copy his drawings?

>>2506959
Thanks for responding, you've helped me!

As your quote suggests, it is possible that examiners don't care about realism that much - I'll have to look up the exact criteria they're using before investing my time into learning photorealism.

Thanks again!

>>2507007
Read the text, then copy the diagrams out. After each one, hide the book and the first copy you did and redraw it again from memory. Then compare it to the book and take note of where you made errors.

Also don't worry about being super anal about accuracy. Like don't do it how people copy Bargue plates and spend many hours on each one. No, just a few minutes each is fine. Don't rush, but don't spend ages on them. The ideas are the key to Bridgman, and the major forms and masses. He himself drew those diagrams in front of classes by having a piece of charcoal on the end of a meter stick. He also was an alcoholic and taught drunk. So just copy them for what they are, but don't slave over it.

>>2507021
Forgot to mention, don't buy his Complete Guide book because it is NOT complete. It's just a mix of random parts of his other books taken out of order and was put together posthumously. Instead, buy his Constructive Anatomy book and his Human Machine.

Thinking about getting a tablet upgrade. Would I feel much of a difference going from a Huion H610 to an Intuos pro model?

>reading Scott Robertson's How to Draw
>he starts talking about cone of visions
>doesn't even tell how to calculate one
how?

>>2507047
Yes. Huion tablets have shitty pressure sensitivity, let alone massive driver issues.

I got a Wacom tablet for my birthday and I'm trying to learn how to draw now since I got in an accident and am pretty much confined home for 6 months or so

This shit is so hard. I've tried Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, Keys to Drawing, Fun with a Pencil, Ctrl-Paint, and drawabox, but I don't feel like I'm improving at all. I'm especially shit at visualizing things in 3D which really fucked me up with Fun with a Pencil and drawabox. Should I just practice drawing from references normally without focusing on any of the construction stuff or will I just be stuck at that point if I only do that? Any recommendations for tutorials I might have missed?

>>2507997
geat piece of paper, draw a box unwrap on it. Cut it out and glue it all together. Now you've got a perfectly good thing to study.

Draw it from varying points of view. When it's on the floor, when it's higher up than you. In time you'll notice how the planes of a cube work in perspective, so you get a cylinder next, something like a simple glass would do.

Don't try painting all the shadows and lights and reflections, instead try to simply draw the cylinder in space, much like a box and you'll see that it follows the same rules and from these basic shapes you can apply the knowledge to basically any form.

It may seem simplistic and maybe boring, but it's best excercise you can do in the beggining.

>>2507617
The cone of vision is 60 degrees wide and starts from the station point. There really isnt that much to calculate beyond that.

Is it the salivary glad that causes the leveling of the jawbone plane next to the ear? Or is it a rounded jaw that does it?

The thought I am running with now is that the Ramus is having a more pronounced inward angle. Can post an example of what I mean since I am better at explaining with drawings.

>>2508058

Whats the point of traditional pen and paper drawing if you dont have a transform tool / layers?

>>2508058
It's mostly the shape of the jawbone with the masseter over top, then you cover all of that with a layer of skin and fat.

>>2508107
When I feel the sides of my jaw I do feel some "hollow" areas so the skin leveling out that area is something I can accept for now, thanks.

>>2508103
You can put it on the fridge.

>>2508103
Hahaha
Nigger where do you think those digital tools came from
Learn to draw nigga learn to hatch wow

>>2508218
drawing without a transform tool and layers seems archaic, pointless.

>>2508219
You seem archaic and pointless.
There are layers you dumb hack, its called LAYERING
You dont need a transform tool if you sketch it right and dont fuck up your drawing to begin with

>"Riding this bicycle seems pointless without training wheels"

GET
U
D

>>2508230
What you're saying is the same as a tattoo artist doing a tattoo without an outline stencil. If you fuck up, you cant change it. Why would they do that? I dunno, /ic/ cred I suppose.

>>2508219
Traditional is better for learning, because it forces you to not fuck up. Digital is better once you'd already got gud.

>>2508271
see tattooing without a stencil, etc

>>2508245
Did you read my post nignog, SKETCH first
Dont ink the whole thing and render before proper construction

>>2508314
If you sketch, you must also be able to use the transform tool.

Stop replying to shitosting.

>>2508334
???
How are these things related

>>2508339
Its the modern way, everything else seems archaic to me.

>>2508342
Post art. Lets see how "modern" your stuff is.

Pic related: archaic, no transform tool.

Been drawing on and of most of my life and finaly want to git gud.
Any good sources online for practising fundamentals?

>>2508353
Read sticky

>>2508352
If you had a transform tool you could do so much more with this. Why handcuff?

>>2508374
Ignore my post and keep shitposting then.
Confirmed for noname shitter

>>2508377
>avoiding the question
>asking for proof
gb2 /3/ or at least leave this thread

I was thinking of opening up a patreon as a kind of tip jar with nothing behind paywalls or anything, just posting studies and drawings. However, the setup almost screams like it's a gofundme or something. Am I just looking at this the wrong way? Should I just look into a paypal donate button

>>2486649
>http://www.quickposes.com/

What are some good youtube vids/ channels for photoshop techniques?