/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4436916

So are these newfags arguing that literally every good artist needs to rely on reference to make good artwork all the time or just that every good artist studies and memorizes reference before drawing from imagination and they equate this in their head as being the same as "drawing from reference"?

I could understand if they mean the latter, but surely nobody is stupid enough to believe the former. Right?

>>3123679

Sinix makes some nice shapes when he doesn't use much construction lines as he is thinking more about the shape language of the drawing rather than the structure

On the other hand however, a 6 year old draws "like Gi". It is than construction or not construction. It is more beyond just not using construction/seeing the construction

It is about confidence, rhythm, composition, and the general complexity of execution. I see many artists that draw "like Gi" but at the same time they don't really work at his level.

Now lets take a look at sinix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymp3748rXEE

You see in his drawing process that he tends to start with a basic shape idea and extrapolate from there. This is mostly intuitive, and much less conscious visualization is being used here. I used to draw like this at one point, and still sometimes fall into the habit of it. Pay attention to that woman with the short hair ~6:15 mins in. You see he draws the hair and then cleans it up later. Same with the ears. Even if we assume that he is consciously visualizing the shapes of these figures, you still see a relatively high error rate with his lines. This is especially apparent on the next more realistic woman.

Now, there is a few people that are pretty Gi level, and has a similar process. For example peter han:

https://www.instagram.com/peterhanstyle/?hl=en

His work is a lot more obvious that he is visualizing much more of it (the perspective is a it fucky at some places like we see here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzRs3hTUvwE

Honestly I am not mad lmao, before anyone thinks that.

Did any of you guys ever take a leap of faith and just quit everything to study art?

i'm about to quit my good paying job as a civil engineer, in order to study art full time.

How stupid is this? How stupid is it not to do it?

I actually like my job too, but it's exetremly demanding and i can't Draw more than about 15 hours a week, which makes me kinda depressed. Lately i've been getting trouble because i can't motivate myself to work anymore, i just wanna Draw.
Had to work 90 hours last week, high stress, no drawing. Now i just feel completely burnt out.

i've been doing art, watching videos, Reading articles and forums for so many years that i feel like i know exactly what to do, i just need the hours.
I don't even know if i want to work as an artist, i just need to create.

I'm getting older, 24 now, but i'm still not bound to a house, no kids, girlfriend etc, yet i feel like i'm on the verge of giving up on my dreams already if i don't act now.
I've applied for a mediocre one year program at a public school, general drawing and painting, but it's just to get the student loans. School is free where i live, and 40% of my loans for rent/food is free if i pass all exams, which should be easy as i probably know as much, or more, as the teachers already
(i have seen their stuff online). It's not that many lectures per week, and i can work on my own stuff, hardcore mode.

If i quit my job i have no guarantee that i'll ever get it back. At least not in these oil crisis days. Could take a masters degree though, i got the grades, but that's no guarantee either.

I don't even know why i'm writing this, i'm just scared to quit my job i guess, i really like my boss and colleauges too, i feel like i'm failing them quitting mid project.
I feel like i'm in a good spot compared to people in other countries though, but still... friends and family think a have gone insane, leaving safety for some "dream" they don't understand.

Have any of you guys done this?

What does /ic/ think of Kim?
His ability to draw without reference is very impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGbvhyTZXfs