/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7086154
>>7086147
>>7085955
There’s one of the 2 paintings I made about transitioning from graphite transfer to free hand in 2018.

>>3953934
Art is production. In the end, the final "product" is more important than how it was produced. Being able to freehand draw is kind of only something that is circlejerked about among beginner art students and people that don't actually know that much about what being a "professional" artist is.

When you're working with deadlines and budgets and an expectation of it being "usable" you fucking trace, use grids, use as many references as possible etc. There's absolutely zero point in trying to focus on "making it from scratch" when literally nobody gives a shit about how the product was produced. Even for people that can comfortably draw and have art educations, hand drawing just more variables and possibilities to fuck up, adds more production time generally, and often may look "wonky" or obviously hand drawn, which often isn't what people are looking for.

Does that mean you shouldn't also know how to draw freehand? Nope. You NEED to learn le fundamentals or else tracing and gridding and referencing doesn't really work. It just looks like some retard traced something. It's like in math classes at school, you spend your childhood having to "show your work" to demonstrate that you fundamentally understand what and why you're doing things, but in real life, "professional" people that have to do a lot of math ALWAYS use calculators. Even well-trained humans are prone to error and oversight, so if your goal is "get the right result" every time, there's absolutely zero reason to risk sabotaging the effort just to circlejerk about how well you can do things people learn in middleschool.

And there's also a level of irony that a lot of the people that talk shit about gridding and tracing and graphite transferring, mostly seem to draw anime on a computer. You have thousands of dollars of equipment that can undo every fuck up you make, and you're acting uppity about people "cheating" by using a ruler or tracing/graphite paper.

>>3909379
move into new mediums

>>3891218
Have to do a bunch of japanesey memeys because Van Gogh went through a weeb phase.

>>3834434
If I hadn't of created a "race" structure to motivate myself I'd have definitely stopped painting like 15 months ago. Shit's gay as fuck.

ITT: whine about art feels!

>>3748870
do jumping jacks ya doingle

there is like 10x more timelapse footage this year than last. This is fucked.

Batch Four: Art and Death

>How to Self Destruct
>How Not To Do Things
>How to Trace
>How to Grid
>How to Draw
>How to Paint
>How to Paint Celebrity
>How to Cross A Bring When It’s On Fire
>How to Paint the Future
>How to Paint Death

>>3713103
and I meant hysterically as in in a state of hysterics, not as in super duper funny.

>>3698083
>Why would I have a bone to pick with the mentally ill?
Good question. Maybe because you're very unambiguously mentally ill?
>I just have fun making fun of you in between actually improving myself.
Who you trying to convince? You or me? How would I know?
>Several people already posted their work and each time you changed the subject
This thread should be everyone posting their work. I responded to everyone that posted something related to the subject of this thread. What was I supposed to do? This shit has devolved into some shrimp dicked coward kids reeeeing about why they're too escared to contribute or even post anything that isn't just impotent bitching at me.
> including the time I did.
I think you were the only one that posted work and acted like a faggot about it though. And you didn't even post anything related to the thread. You smugly posted some generic sketches while talking shit. I didn't even know who was posting or what they were posting in response to. What exactly did you want? Why are you so upset?
>If the work I posted specifically in response isn't enough for you then I'm afraid that's not my problem.
Of course it isn't. How much of a Dunning Kruger are you that you think some Rockwell copies are "enough?"

>I'll see you later, schizo.
Said the stalker.
>Hopefully the thread will be dead when I get back for a second time.
Well you gave it a much longer life than I was anticipating. I was essentially done with it at >>3696731 right around when you showed up being agitated.
>>3698094
>I don’t care, I just reply, in depth, to every single reply directed against me
I mean this is what I do as an idle procrastination thing. I don't care about what I'm typing about really. I couldn't care butthurt stalkers with bones to pick if I wanted to. I have no idea who (you) are. Like I "care" about a lot of things, and responding to triggered (you)s is way more of an avoidance meme about the actual shit I'm stressed about.

the only thing about japanese aesthetics that I deeply appreciate is all the wabi sabi and mono no aware type of concepts. Because they're all kind of fundamentally about death and entropy and existence and stuff.

The japanese art that /ic/ weebs are obsessed about is pure schlock and yall probably need to diversify your bonds. there's more out there than waifu trash.

>>3645498
yeah it's @watchpaintdrytv on ig and twitter and youtube and stuff. https://youtu.be/cCgD-pTV1oM

>>3644943
induce traumatic stress and then draw as a means of escape/avoidance! Give yourself something bigger to think about and Just Draw™!

>I'm gonna make it
>Ill send a postcard haha
>time is entropy

>>3613846
ill buy that for a dollar

>>3605355
yeah this.
>>3605970
I'll try.
>Draw something in a way that is genuinely meaningful to you.
I've had a crippling amount of anxiety about freehand drawing since I was 18. I didn't produce anything for 10 years because I was too fucked up about how I abandoned drawing, was nervous that I wouldn't be able to draw well, would be embarrassed, etc if I tried and "failed."

I got back into artistic production by doing graphite transfer to canvas paintings of goddamn 4chan memes, where I didn't have to stress about drawing. Pic related is about this. It's essentially the first of the series where I didn't trace, grid, or obsess about replicating proportions. Done over a bunch of japanese scribbling initials and stuff. It was done in a "zone of emotion" and is of a subject that is acting out the source of the emotion over the reason why I have the emotion (I kind of see over-focus on hand drawing as the artist circlejerking about their basic art skills, like they think it's what makes them special or what puts their name on the piece).

Like it's super meaningful to me. It's one of my favorite of my memes. It was a marker and commentary about where I was and the shift in my focus and it was like I was dumping 11 years of anxiety into it. Made me happy to be alive.

>>3604573
RACE VAn GOHGH YOu FAGGOT FUCK

9 MOREYEARS

>>3601186
be insane probably

>>3583026
KYS: A haiku

Nothing is perfect,
And anything is better.
Post your work faget

and then even if I do just draw it I still generally prefer just to have lines marked out on the side just for comfy blankey

>>3573893
painting will continue to persist for the same reasons that it's existed in spite of photography and film. The consumption of art has always been connected to social behavior. It's often made to be exhibited publicly. And it serves as physical evidence of history. Unlike all the digimon shit where there isn't REALLY such a thing as an "original" piece for people's braindicks to get wet about. You can do a rad giclee print or whatever but there's just something about painting on canvas that likely can't be captured through non-"traditional' digimon means.

Like that one Van Gogh painting where you can see where he got frustrated or whatever and started stabbing at the canvas with the palette knife. Can't capture that with a tablet. There's a lot of frustration and learning and growing that you're never forced to deal with when you're making digital art and everything can easily be undone.