/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6905656
The rib cage is sort of shaped like a boxy egg, but the shoulder girdle is kind of square at the top, the front of the rib cage is a flat plane, and the lowest attached ribs kind of make corners. But the back and sides are pretty round. So there are aspects of the rib cage that are best thought of as being egg like, and aspects that are best though of as box like. For general poses, I kind of tend to use an egg shape first to get the mass of the ribcage in place. Then I make it a little boxy to solidify the perspective. For back views, I usually only need the egg shape and the center line of the spine since you don’t see the corners of the ribs from the back. Different views of the ribcage will look more like boxes or more like eggs or more like cylinders. (I rarely use cylinders.)
For any twisty poses and especially for foreshortened poses, I usually just go straight to the box construction.

Some of it is preference, but it’s more like which tool are you gonna use for which job. It’s about whichever construction helps you understand/visualize/think about that stage of that drawing of that pose in that moment.

It’s like asking whether to use a screwdriver or an impact driver. They both drive screws and will get you to the same place, just differently. Even so, which you use depends on you and your task. If there’s a screw that’s backed out slightly, you might reach for the screwdriver. You might find that it’s tougher than you thought, and grab the impact to drive it home the last turn. If you need to drive a screw through a 2x4, you might want the impact. If you’re driving a screw into delicate plastic trim on an old car, you might want to consider the screwdriver instead.

The point is: Have both tools available whenever you need. So practice both boxes and eggs. And practice “boxifying” eggs and “eggifying” boxes.

Here’s some old gestures. Mostly egg-based. Whereas this >>6905238 was purely boxy. No rules, only tools.

>>6895115
And finally some gestures. I also drew more lewd things but I don’t want to shit up the thread too much.
>>6895089
I’m sure he has. Probably did a lot of trad doing KtD.
>>6895102
Seems like a perfectly reasonable exercise to me. There’s not really any reason you couldn’t do something similar with a pencil or ink, just put in shadow edges, block in values, or add hatching or textures or however you want to progress it. You don’t need to do anything involving a tablet. The steps you’d take and the process would be a little different, but the basic principle is the same. Watch Glen Vilppu or Karl Gnass or Steve Huston or Brent Eviston do longer gesture/figure drawings. They all start with the quick gesture, then build up in stages, adding layers of detail and depth in phases. Same exact idea.
>>6895117
Yeah, I’ll sometimes fill a page with circles just so I technically drew something for the day. Which is good, because circles are fucking hard. Then I’ll get into it and do more, usually. Sometimes drawing chains or organic forms, intersecting shapes… but those aren’t exactly mindless.
>>6895126
Rib cages are basically egg shaped, hers looks like it might be missing. Look at pictures of people sitting on their heels. I’m sure you can find some of Japanese people sitting like that, at least.

You’ll see that their butt is elevated off the floor by their thighs resting on theirs calves and their butt resting on their heels. A less formal pose, with the feet kind of splayed to the side rather than her sitting on her heels, will be harder. Try taking the pose yourself! That’s often helpful.

I missed you guys. I recognize some anons, and I’m impressed by and proud of your progress. Every one of you that has stuck with drawing while I’ve been MIA, EVERY ONE OF YOU has visibly improved. If you go back and look at your work from about a month ago, it’s a noticeable difference. Good job, frens. You’re gonna make it.