/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>3763046
>Yeah, the idea that you unironically believe that the Russians were conspiring to give an inconsequential businessman an incredibly narrow victory
Well to the Russian Oligarchy he's been incredibly consequential for the last 20 years. And to Russian counter-intelligence he went from being moderately-consequential in 1987, to being fundamentally-turning-point-in-the-21st-century consequential.

You may not be able to understand this, but in 2014 when Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea after the Ukrainian people overthrew the puppet that Putin and Manafort installed, this led to Russia getting CRIPPLED by economic sanctions (stacked on top of the Saudis shorting the cost of oil and tanking Russia's economy). In response to this Putin started conducting the currently-ongoing active measures war against the west. They saw Clinton and Democrats as being likely to continue stacking sanctions and letting the Saudis fuck the oil economy, and dedicated billions of dollars to subversive messaging strategy designed to radicalize and agitate people against their countrymen. Get everyone acting out of spite.

And then when it comes to Trump, he's been an Agent of Influence for over 30 years. He's been kept afloat since he lost all his dad's money in the 90s primarily by laundering Russian money with his properties. He's their slut.

And the "incredibly narrow victory" was accomplished by psychographically microtargeting people in specific places with propaganda or depression memes or other terroristic messaging strategy designed to "hack" the fundamental corruption of the Electoral College system. He won with an "incredibly narrow victory" of -3,00,000 votes.
>the most corrupt hag in politics since the mid 1980s
Clinton wasn't printing Russian propaganda in American newspapers in 1987 after going to Moscow for a week and getting seduced by the KGB. That was the current hag in the White House.

>>3749501
> i said that because in that post you were caring about what "normal" or "rational" people think
Well there's a pretty significant difference between "normalcy" and "rationality." In many ways a lot of ideas, behaviors, and traditions that are normalized in our culture aren't rational at all. I don't care about being "normal," but I do care about being "rational."

Being "normal" means that you're committed to what the crowd is doing. Being "rational" means that you're committed to reason, logic, and the search for objective or observable truth.

When you reject rationality, you allow yourself to be a hysterical, easily manipulated ape woman.
>it doesn't matter,
It does. How do you know what is real or when you're willingly irrational? It's like you're saying being psychotic and delusional "doesn't matter."
>nobody is better than anyone just because they act different.
I mean this is a weird statement. People are kind of ONLY better than people because they act different. What are we other than our conditioned behavior?
>i can respect a tryhard shitposter more than someone that believes himself to be normal and especial for that.
Being "normal" is entirely context and environment-dependent. If you're at Christmas dinner, talking about drawing naziwaifus would be pretty decidedly abnormal. But on 4chan, on /ic/, this is being actively normalized and encouraged by faggot OP. They're creating an environment designed to normalize extremist radical thought in a demographic of children that are more susceptible to ego-manipulation.

Like when we talk about what "active measures" are, it's about creating a platform that makes malignant, spiteful tribalism "normal." It's about appealing to lonely people by creating a conditioned response game where you reward and encourage them and make them feel like they're part of a group, when they embrace antisocial or destructive ideas about their culture and country. It's normalized degeneracy.

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>>3605157
>no.
si.
>I'm saying you are here as a sociopath not an artist.
I mean a sociopath is going to be everywhere as a sociopath right? Can't really stop having a personality disorder.

>And I am probably using that word wrong, if it even is a thing.
You are, it is not really a thing anymore. They used to call them Psychopaths, but that kind of linguistically implies just a general pathology of the mind, so then it became sociopath. As in a pathology in your social abilities or whatever. But then like psychopath it kind of became an insult that lost it's diagnostic porpoise so the DSM established antisocial personality disorder, which is what it currently is.

Like "sociopath" and "psychopath" can kind of also imply borderline personality, narcissistic personality, histrionic personality, etc. I'm not actually antisocial personality disorder though. I've got an overabundance of empathy and remorse and get fucked up about killing bugs. Probably closer to like schizotypal, avoidant, and obsessive-compulsive personality memes tbphwyf.

>For instance, they are not interested in art in itself, but only as a "prop" to get attention
Depends on what the point is. I'm racing Van Gogh. Not trying to get a job as a technical draftsman or some shit.
> and validation of their self which is their highest priority in everything.
Eh idk I'm all about self destruction. I don't really care about validation. I'm driven by abuse.

> If somebody quickly takes up a lot of space in a social setting, especially if they have nothing to offer except trolling, goofs, tricks, props etc... they are usually driven by a need for attention
this is histrionic personality disorder.
>which implies they have an unhealthy amount of focus on their own self.
and this is narcissistic personality. But it's my hypotenuse that all the cluster Bs are connected to a frontal lobe dysfunction that makes the person less able to empathize/regret. And nurture determines which one you become.

I'd say it matters what you do on the intranettes and in your past but the reality is it doesn't anymore.

You can literally rape children for decades and act as an agent of influence for Russian counter-intelligence since September 4, 1987 and become President of the United States easy peasy.

And it's 4chan. Just say you didn't do post the bad stuff. And just blame the interns that you hired to shitpost your memes for college credit if someone ever calls you out.

NOTHING IS PERFECT
EVERYTHING ELSE IS LIFE
TIME IS ENTROPY

>>3586919
actually nevermind. forgot about the 60 million people that were impressed by an illiterate child rapist lmao

>>3540479
its about killing social beauty standards you fucking stupid ass nigger. Why aren't you embarrassed by how much you choose to be a hyper-offended sjw faggot?

I bet you're the kind of sniveling cuck that also gets triggered about how "political correctness" is destroying your freedom or whatever.

>>3527155
you know how I know you're a virgin?