/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

these 2 are super "serious" to me. The one on the right is one of the ones kept in the "grab first in case of another fire" milkcrate. They're about confronting the anxiety I had developed after I stopped drawing for a decade. They're also what I would consider something I would consider "serious." Particularly as personal growth elements in the overarching "narrative" of the race.

>>3759314
>Not him but doing nothing but tracing meme images can only take you so far.
Yeah I agree. How it's been viewed for the last year is that I'm in the "peasant painting" period. Spent a lot of last year branching out into bigger canvasses and more complicated images and stuff.
>Sooner or later the novelty is going to wear off and you will have no redeeming values as an artist at that point.
Yeah that's why there's an end date. Won't make another painting after January 30, 2025. There'll be the ~1000 paintings and that's it.
>Ah well, since it's only just a hobby then who am I to judge if you're having fun?
pfft this shit aint no hobby this a dang race.

pict related are 2 paintings I made about the anxiety of hand drawing and stuff. And how I kind of feel like circlejerking about free hand underdrawing on a painting is kind of like being a faggot about writing your name all over the canvas or something.

>>3678489
and these 2 are paintings about the whole hand drawing on canvas criticism and concept and the anxiety I've had about drawing since I was like 18. I got into painting as a way to do creative production in spite of having stopped drawing almost entirely from the age of 18 to 28.

Both of these paintings were made together and were done by hand. The one on the right leaves the canvas and the pen lines exposed and was done on top of a bunch of Japanese initials and stuff. The point being that to me, circlejerking about how good you can draw on a painting is more about trying to stress how special you want people to think you are and you're making the painting about yourself than about whatever else it should be about. Whenever I see a painting with the typical "offness" in proportions and anatomy that come from hand drawing on canvas, it just makes me think that the artist is more obsessed with proving how good they are at the fundamentals of art.

And I don't hate on hand-drawing or people that use hand underdrawings if that's their approach. It's just that there are other things in art than being able to sketch.

I've said this a bunch now: Learning to draw is like learning the alphabet. You can't learn how to write if you don't know how to create the letters first. And it's like you can get amazing at writing letters and become an amazing calligrapher, but that skill isn't really going to help you write a novel.

A major issue I have with /ic/ is that you all seemingly ONLY have experience with basic drawing, and there's this circlejerk here that discourages people from ever branching out into different mediums unless they've "honed" or "mastered" basic drawing. It's like so many of you don't know where to go and what to branch out into after you've learned basic drawing, so you just endlessly grind basic drawing and languish as eternal /beg/ dorks.

There is no barrier to entry.

>>3650825
>You post your shit in everyones face 24/7
It's an anonymous imageboard with equal exposure for all posts on a thread. If you don't like that maybe reddit is a better format for you? You can downvote things there!
>and have no artistic vision or goals.
I've got a pretty thoroughly defined vision and a ton of goals all structured around muh van gogh race. I've only got at least 600 more paintings to go!
>You do it for the attention, not for art.
No I do it for art. Plus art is made to be seen. And this is an art forum. Not my fault that you're a fucking coward that hides all their 1000x great drawings.
>So you don't need anything more than to produce shit to start posting your "work".
Yep. And look at the affect that my "work" has on you.

Like your underlying anxiety about your own artistic production is so obvious. Your whole post is clearly about you projecting your own bullshit ngmi autism at me. It's not my fault that you're lazy and misguided and escared of anonymous shitposters.

>>3602231
>implying positive and negative space aren't more important than proportions when transferring a drawing to a canvas
whats really the point of all the headroom on the right side of the frame? Like if you want to >imply that positive and negative space are "more important" why post an example of a painting that at best is using space wrong on purpose?

Plus look at >>3602231 versus when you put it on canvas >>3601968

Assuming >>3602231 was the first drawing, then you FUCKED UP on the transfer to canvas and ended up with a thicc-ribbed pinhead. What the fuck does positive and negative space have to do with any of that? Like even if you want to say that use of space is more important than proportions, that painting is doing both of those things poorly. And then you brag about how it's hand done with no (yuck) construction, like NO SHIT bud.

>is that I actually composed mine like that on purpose.
Doesn't look like it. Looks like you got distracted on the tits and ended up with a small head and giant body. That's on purpose? Why?
>you still just randomly make the sizes whatever because you only know how to use grids.
>>3602223 isn't a grid. And the entire point of having them being justified on the bottom left is to make Stone seem squished and suffocated by an overbearing Jlaw. What is the point of >>3601968 having all the headroom while also being awkwardly cropped on the left?

Also I don't "randomly" do anything. I spend a lot of time goofing with framing and relative size on photoshop before I start fucking with canvasses.

pics related are hand painted on blank canvas on the left and hand drawn on the right. But they were still planned and executed to get the framing I wanted.

>>3573093
SELFIE SEPTEMBER WHAAAAAAT

>>3571969
And Eastern aesthetics and philosophy in general I guess. Anyone else really get much into buddhist principles in their art education?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

>>3565792
you're standing inside of a sphere. The interior is entirely mirrored. You are the only source of light. What do you see?

Aaannnddd draw!

>>3564326
>can make a living never learning how to draw,
I mean I learned how to draw in an academic setting from the ages of like 7-18.
>using grids
most painters use grids
>crappily painting by numbers a bunch of celebrity portraits
It's a subject matter with a built in consumer demographic. And the DIY appeal is ultimately part of it.
>has the nerve to come on 4chan and brag to a bunch of people trying their hardest
I think that this is largely a delusion. You're not trying your hardest. Not to mention that there's more to "art" than being able to fucking hand draw shit. If you're trying to get into videogame design or technical drafting or whatever this is obviously the worst route you could take.
>how little effort he has to put in compared to them
I work at this more than 40 hours a week. I sleep or I'm at my workstation. I eat standing up. I hate weekends. I do this like it's the only thing that matters in my life.

>Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

>>3532836
>he's probably referring to the fact that each line was made by a series of short lines that overlap each other in order to form the correct curve.
yeah the pencil breaks if you try to do long lines on canvas in in my experience
>chicken scratch is basically just multiple scratchy lines when a single line would do just fine.
I've been exclusively painting with acrylic for like 2 years. Long lines seem weird to me now.
>but your entire drawing definitely shouldn't look scratchy and messy.
unless you do it ON PURPOSE?! All about that novel aesthetic bb

>>3528388
>What do you think is more important what is illustrated or how?
To people that would be interested in spending money on it: WHAT.
To tryhard faggots: HOW.

For you it should be about why you do what you do.

time is entropy

>>3520744
hand drawing doesn't need to matter to make good art. axe niggas like mondrian or warhol or lichtenstein or whoever i mean geez dang

just produce stuff nobody cares about your sketches

>>3517010
post a drawing you did before

also, if you look at your work from the perspective of a future historian, it's ok if your early shit is trash as long as you just keep grinding and improving.

>>3513079
>Would not hire you to paint a fence.
that's smart I'd probably phone say I'd do it and then blow it off 2/3 of the way through.
>Do you let your paint dry up or something?
Yeah that one is still on the acrylic gesso layer, like where >>3512973 is at, they still need highlights and shadows and detailing and stuff.
>Maybe use different tools.
Open to suggestoins
>You should work on making flat areas and smooth gradient transitions.
go on

>>3505680
I made fun of illstrats painting of an AK47 that had the clip in the wrong place one time because he said he said my art wasn't "outsider" enough.