/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4302791

>>3272526
Here you go.

>>3256122
>>3256289
I'm gonna sound like one of those /ic/ shitters, but this is some insane symbol drawing you have here. You're trying to attempt shading on a figure that's heavily stylized, and it looks like you're struggling with understanding the form of the face and hair. Take a step back and see if you can do some studies on human faces. If you really want to get into the whole anime drawing stuff, you can also do some studies of whatever style you want to achieve, but I do recommend getting a decent grasp of realism first. The body looks relatively alright for what it's worth.

Pic related is a good guideline to go by.

>>3251812
You may find this helpful.

That being said, you have the right idea, but your sense of anatomy isn't at the point where you can make extreme poses like this. Notice how the body/head aren't skewed the same way as the arm, as if they exist in their own perspective.

>>3117617

>>3112672
>>3112587
>>3112721
NoseBro and his discord friends trying hard

>>2879981

Something to be noted is that the guides /ic/ recommends are guides people put together in hindsight. The "If I could have gone back" or "After learning all this stuff and making it work, here's the proper path to take".

It's assumed that when the advice is given, you're fucking around on your own time with a goal in mind or creating stuff for yourself from your imagination. Or rearranging what you learn into a whole new thing.

That's the most important key. Arguable the second would be using what you're studying constructively.

Anyway. If you find yourself in a trap where you can only draw from reference from only studying, the solution is to just draw shit. And do it the logical route. Start with small shapes in perspective, and start filling things in.

Hopefully it works out. It might not. I don't know. My artwork is fucking garbage too.

>>2756223

>>2728041
Everything.

1) Draw something.
2) Fuck up.
3) What did you fuck up?
4) Why did you fuck it up?
5) What do you need to practice to not fuck it up (as much) in the future? (spoiler alert, it's gonna boil down to fundamentals)
6) Fiddle around with whatever it is that you needed to improve in
7) Repeat forever
8) ?????
9) Heat death of the universe

That's in theory. In practice, as long as you don't stop drawing, and you don't stop studying, you'll be fine.

Pretty much the practice of any skill or craft consists of three things

Fundamentals (important from beginner->master)
Tricks (intermediate->master)
Improvisation (expert->master).

Invest in a sketchbook so you don't have to worry about the downsides of doing digital only.

>>2720819
>>2720900

Why can't you motherfuckers ever think in 3 dimensions when drawing this shit

It's so flat you could roll it up and drop it down your urethra

>>2663872

>>2471354
Listen to TLG

>>2461946
also, a teal line guy

>>2303062
>>2303108
The general recommendation is to start by working through the exercises in Keys to Drawing and/or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.

Then move on to Loomis and other stuff.

>>2286282
Don't worry about gesture yet, you don't have enough of a skillset to take advantage of it.

>>2285997
I don't think anyone has ever suggested attempting gesture drawing without first having a solid handle on the other fundamentals. Yes, people abuse it and use it as a crutch to hide their lack of understanding in other areas, but what you're saying here is a straw man. I'm not claiming that it's a necessity for a good drawing, I'm saying that it has a place in art and isn't totally worthless as you seem to think.

>>2279643
>obviously anatomy would likely be the first place to start, right?
Far from it, pic related.
First learn how to draw straight lines and not-so-cringe-worthy ellipses.
There's a Peter Han video about sketching in the sticky somewhere, look for it.

>Found a ton of pdfs on drawing lessons in the sticky and in a thread on here a while back, should I just burn through those?
Yes, just do it.

Also this: >>2279836

>>2276369
lol, I wish I was around to get a redline from this guy.

>>2157894
Quite a lot. Namely lack of forms, gesture and a very limited knowledge of anatomy.
Lines have a degree of confidence, though, which is... something.

I'll leave you with this and direct you to the sticky.

>>2035073
Teal guy was a dudebro who gave good crits and solid advice about visualizing volume in your work. He posted pretty often but then people started harassing him like they do so he left. He was possibly a grill irl but that's irrelevant.

>>2006865