/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6644663
Same day

Was obsessed with the Mona Lisa at the time and was watching annihilation

>>3846582
>Anyone who has tried disconnecting for a while?
yeah I did for a few months last winter/spring. Although I didn't entirely disconnect from internet/media, just socials and content aggregators. No fb, insta, twitter, 4chan, reddit, whatever. Still watched youtube videos and hulu and shit because that was muh only tv.

Was also doing a microdosing LSD regime at the time. Was probably the most productive I've ever been in m'life.
>Any thoughts on what practice schedule i should follow?
idk just wake up and go to the workstation and sit there for 10 hours a day. Follow your impulses, have a bunch of shit ready and waiting to work on so if you don't have anything inspiring you you can just grind on one of the extra boys.
>Or should just draw and paint anything that i want?
Any production is better than none!

all acrylic bb

this painting was started sober, while watching the new at the time season of the Kimmie Schmidt show. The painting was "finished" tripping balls on acid watching watching Annihilation for the 2nd time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCuBalItZA8

>>3766691
this isn't good advice. Kind of dumb. Particularly when you're talking about paint. Skin tones require their own palette pretty much. Why the fuck would you want a bunch of background colors playing at the same time as you're working on skin tones?

And why would you jump from skin tones to bg/clothes then back to skin tones just in the interest of "developing the entire image" at once?

Plus when you're doing portraits or tiddy paintings, the subject is the important thing. Why waste your good effort on the supplemental shit?

>>3732558
>ART IS COMMUNICATION.
so like CB radio hobbyism is art? Is telecommunications art? Is political messaging strategy art? Like what exactly to you is COMMUNICATION?
>literal trash on the street is not art because there is no communication
Sure there is. There's all the brand messaging on the trash itself, there's what the existence of trash communicates about the nature of a setting, there's the nature of the trash that communicates the purpose behind it's creation, etc.
> If somebody placed it there with the intent to evoke an aesthetic or insightful reaction, THEN YES IT IS ART
Yeah but what if they didn't? What about things that happen incidentally in life that happen to evoke an aesthetic or insightful reaction?
>But only if there is some kind of meaningful exchange.
How does this pov encroach dadaism or surrealism?
> You can't just say hey I out this trash on your doorstep "because it symbolizes entropy" and leave.
I mean... yeah you can.
> there is no profound impression being made on the owner of the house
There could be. And also so what?
>and hence no meaningful communication of ideas or aesthetics.
What if you tell people at the pub about it later? What if it never even happened? What if it's all a lie? Does that make it MORE art or LESS art?

>>3719547
>Getting an adderall or weed habit is just the gayest shit you can do especially as a young person.
I actually do agree with this. I was prescribed to stimulants starting in dang third grade. I think it's pretty fucked up that I was pretty much trained for a decade to associate amphetamine use with being productive.

I do think there is a difference though between getting dependent on things versus having tried them/being open to experiences. Particularly with pot. Understanding how your mind functions when variously impaired is, to me, a prerequisite when you're focused on creative production and aesthetics and stuff. Even if you're into math or anything else tbphwyf.
>I wouldn't even microdose these days. It's just all placebo.
idk about that. The ~100 paintings that I did in the period I was microdosing were some of the best executed or personally-boundary-pushing at the time, and they were being cranked out at an unprecedented rate. Productivity per hour increased and hours worked per week almost doubled, and I would say it some of muh favorite memes.

>>3706514
>this post alone has told Jimmy chickenscratch Memeshit all he needs to know on how to improve his godawful grid-dependent skills. but no-oh, not with Jimmy! he don't roll that way.
you're so upset! And why really?

Like seeing you flipping out like this is all the positive reinforcement I need to continue doing my thing. You're annoying and hysterical and emotional and you have all these belligerent dogmatic views against basic elements of artistic production. The idea that what I'm doing pisses you off THIS MUCH is fantastic to me. Way more satisfying than any fucking compliment I could ever get. You're giving me so much power!
>better stay in denial,
What am I in denial about again? Seems like you're just offended that I value work itself more than outcome, while you obsess about outcome and never work.
>proving once again that stagnation and repetition are his best assets.
I mean it's good to have assets at all. Even if we really want to bother qualifying "stagnation and repetition" and then even if we wanted to talk about why you think these things are inherently bad, I still have plenty of evidence of attempts to do new things. I try new things constantly.

You're only really stagnating when you're not producing anything by my standards.

Work on something of your own today or you're going to develop early-onset dementia within 5 years.

>>3698215
>as I've said many times, because you always downplay how many anons there are teling you to fuck off.
Don't downplay shit. There was one person that was calling me out specifically at the start, and it was clearly the one of the same assblasted retards from the memeschlock thread. Most of the unique posters ITT were the people interacting with the people making content or posting reasons why they weren't gonna do it.

Like there were a good amount of posts about the how to draw anime and drawing white women in anime style is bullshit and stuff. Who cares if some kids posted meanie things? Why does everything have to be about me with (you)? Why do you need to derail threads with vendetta memes?
>As I have said since earlier this year, there is always an anon that will respond to a retard.
And you choose to do it retard. You should literally kill yourself with something sharp. Cut down the wrists.
>There is no other single recurring factor in this shitstorm, so you are obviously the cause. please leave.
You're the one choosing to turn a thread and demand that the thread be exclusively about me. You're saying that my existence makes you act like a sniveling retarded faggot, and instead of you just NOT being a retarded sniveling faggot, everyone else should just tailor everything around your feelings.

So is this Hungarian Ratface guy then? Like it's a bit interesting how you disingenuous emotional assholes enter threads, make everything about me for no reason, refuse to let threads be about anything other than me, and then use the evidence that you created as "proof" that I "derail" threads and then whining that I should leave lol.

Like it can't be stressed enough how annoying and stupid you are. You come into this thread, refuse to participate in the subject, refuse to contribute content, make personal attacks, and you think YOU should be anywhere? You have to be removed with chemo you malignant loser.

>>3693183
>The eye area is not too bad but you're incomprehensibly scribbling lines and it makes it look worse than it might
duh. But when we're talking about being a painter, and the function of drawing primarily being to get the proportional image onto the canvas as an underdrawing, it's more than fine. This idea that I "need" to use grids for the canvas underdrawing is refuted by the reality that I can draw proportional, anatomically accurate faces regardless. Using a grid just limits the opportunities for needless human error in the prep phase. Trying to hand draw on a canvas and get the proportions and framing as you want it is just more efficiently done using a grid. This is why essentially all painters used them.
>Especially when errors that you seemed to fix in some appear eventually in your next work.
Like look at the link in the OP for a little bit if you're interested in how I work. I jump around on a bunch of paintings and some get neglected and ignored and some get did on for days. This idea that as soon as you figure something out once it'll never happen again, particularly when we're talking about stacking colors, is silly.
>Ok, say you don't.
I already did. I definitely don't.
>Does it hurt to self-reflect and/or get another opinion on it to be sure
A: I went and looked up probably the same article you had read. Read the whole thing and critically applied what they were talking about to what I do, and it's really not relevant to my whole "build out from an eye proportionally while keeping an eye on the whole gestalt" thing. I've spent a lot of time painting noses at all different angles, and I am actively aware of their position in space relative to the viewer and stuff. I'm not plugging in my idea of what a nose looks like. That's something that loomis dorks and toddler drawings struggle with.
>to be sure I'm not being spiteful?
mostly just think it was a weird thing to have jumped to in the first place.

>>3640712
>They turn darker when dry (but unevenly, depending on the color)
it's always a mystery!
>making shading and dealing with values a nightmare.
I've found that if you use black paint on skin tones, it upsets people enough that they don't notice anything else
>They dry so fucking fast that I waste tons of paint
A: dry or die my dude
B: or you can get retarder, but it kind of pulls the paint apart kind of?
>and my palette turns into chaos immediately.
wabi sabi brah! I generally have gotten into the rhythm where I start with blues for an under layer of skin tones and shadows, then start mixing in purples then reds into the color. Kind of just focus on one color at a time and when you run out add a new color to the slush and apply it where applicable. Just one continuous process. But I unironically love chaos and entropy and that's really what I try to capture with acrylics so idk shit about how best to use it in a functional or repeatable manner.

>Dried paint looks dull and glows like cheap plastic.
Add some varnish?

>>3604779
>The next 10-20 pieces you draw after that will be fucking shit or unimpressive
Fucking aye
>but then you draw another good piece again, thats even better than the last good piece...
And people wonder why artist types tend to be bipolar
>that is why mileage is the most important
This is one thing that seems frustrating when talking to anons here that have this expectation that after you've put in the hours to do something interesting or well executed or whatever that that means everything you do has to be at that level. Just seems super unaware of the literal time expense and labor and stuff or whatever.

Used to cause me a lot of anxiety about what to do after I made something that I considered good or almost "finished" or whatever. Production slows down because there's suddenly a higher pedestal now or something. I think its probably good to maybe set out to make a piece of shit with or right after you do a bigger thing or something you think is good.

Any production is better than none.

>>3604055
other than "dont put white or black in your paint." And "compare what your colors look like to what the reference colors look like" I haven't been able to suss out much from anons how to get muh colors less muddy. Any tips for act 2 and year 3?

>>3590874
>>3591285
yeah I kind of take back what I said before this is the real memes

If they're doing things that you can use, why wouldn't you give it a gander?

Art becomes magic to me when you don't even know what you could "steal" to be able to replicate what the artist is doing even if you wanted to.

>>3588105
>Your entry-level attempts at a philosophical background for your project makes me shudder.
Me too pretty much. Who gives a shit though. Everything is embarrassing anyway.
>Don't throw around "Fibonacci numbers" mystery tags in hope to somehow elevate the crap you are working on
ITS A TOOL SONG REEEE
>somehow elevate the crap you are working on
It kind of does. Lyrics kind of drive the whole idea behind it.
>Neither has your "wabi sabi" anything to do with what you paint.
Capturing fleeting moments when a person exists outside of themselves. Imperfection and impermanence and absence of self nature. All that shit.
>Nothing about your project is in any way subversive.
idk I think it is.
>If you want radical ugliness, go look at George Condo. If you want lethargic portraits of celebrities, look at Elisabeth Payton
coolcoolcool thx
>But none of the shit you keep talking about in theory actually shows in any of your memes.
that's why I'm making a informercial style show format where I literally sell all the dumb bullshit to justify a bunch of shitty paintings.
>f your obsessions shows anything, it is that, somehow, you can get up to 170 paintings and make as little artistic progress in terms of technique as anyone could ever imagine.
Guess you'll never know LMAO. And I got up to 300 paintings.
>You take the vast current of celebrity photo grimaces that is flooding the internet everyday,
Just /tv/ 4 me.
>With George Condo, you see an artist that has diligently worked on finding that tangent area where ugliness meets a strange feeling of appeal that lingers.
Yeah and he's in year like 40. I'm on year 2. Gotta start somewhere.
>You have not reached any such threshold,
Guess I'll have to keep going huh.
>You take pride in all the obvious flaws and you justify them a posteriori, as if they were intended.
Abso Lutely. It's like a comedy farce where the character tells a lie and it spirals out of control and they build an entire aesthetic out of it

>>3584209
>I'm not mad over 4chan being obnoxious
I'm not mad over 4chan being obnoxious either though. Why do you think that one anon is "4chan?"
>You are.
I'm not though. Saying that the people here are "obnoxious" is a statement of fact. I'm not driven to spite it, I'm a reflection of it. If that's upsetting for you I'm sorry to hear that I guess?

>>3581752
>>3581755
That's still not *MOST pro artists. That's A FEW RECALLABLE pro artists. It's fun with availability heuristics and stuff.

>>3574536
>not the first time he "didn't read!" that kind of reply.
Not really much to bother responding to. She's just whining and talking shit. Same with (you) who be do be a totally different (you) I see.
>If you think you can actually reach him with reasonable arguments
If you think >>3574452 is a "reasonable" thing meriting a reasoning response you're a dang teenager. You probably need a face punching or two.
>best you can do is lurk
Best you can do is be constructive
and show your work
nobody is ever impressed
when (you) sell yourself as an impotent jerk