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3905054 No.3905054 [Reply] [Original]

Let’s say a beg wanted to trace up an “oc” character from tracing alone. Would the end result be decent?


Make a pose on doll design or a picture and trace it. Find eyes, hair, cloths and accessories form multiple and different pictures. And trace them onto the pose trace... thus constructing a Frankenstein type monster of traced parts.

How good could it possibly turn out?

Can a complete noob bust out some decent stuff?

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>> No.3905435
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It still comes out looking flat as fuck, anon. Sure, you can try to improve at it, but you'd be much better off as an artist if you worked on other skills.

>> No.3905438

The less understanding you have about art the worse you'll do even if you are tracing

>> No.3905443

Of course it’s gunna look like that when it’s only lines lol

>> No.3905487

When you're "tracing" just construct the drawing with the reference underneath. Don't just trace line for line,you won't learn much. But try to construct and draw with the reference there as a sefety net. You gain a better understanding of how to intuitively feel the construction of the drawing. Plus, you'll be able to change aspects of the drawing here and there and tune it to your style

>> No.3905511

ever tried tracing grass to figure out how to represent texture efficiently? it's a good exercise
ever tried tracing the construction underneath a figure? it's a good exercise
ever tried tracing when you really butchered an accuracy exercise to really see where you went wrong? it's a good exercise

imagine never ever trying something because people told you it was bad. you'd have to be an absolute blue-balled pussy

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3905053 No.3905053 [Reply] [Original]

We had a good thing going on in the last thread >>3890222
Let's continue it.

Anyone here taking commissions?
Post your work, link to blog, and prices.

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>> No.3905493

I think this person is eager to start the process, but doesn’t know what their doing. As long as their money’s good, I say proceed.

1) Make sure you get a proportion of your pay up front. Lots of people do half before, half on completion. People will try to scam you. Insist on this. Do not take no for an answer.

2) Explain (as it seems based on your description) that milestones are not based on character designs, but rather on pages or chapters of illustrations completed. Idk if I understood their text above right, but it looks like six milestones, one for each character is what they’re trying to do. Ignore this point if I misunderstood.

3) Non-artists probably have no idea what thumbnails are despite your explanation, same with color comps.

4) See what the author proposes with their milestone plan, and then realistically adapt it. Remember: it’ll be a million tomes better to underpromise and over-deliver, than to be late or flaky with dates. I like giving an ETA that it’ll take longer than expected, and delivering slightly (but not too) early as a tactic.

5) Make sure you are fairly being compensated for your work to the extent you can.

And good job not saying yes to all coming projects. It seems you have a good and realistic head on your shoulders for this stuff.

Just be real about it, and if the author is flaky, don’t accept, and if you can make it through the first commission but don’t want further ones, don’t accept them.

The ‘you’re hired’ was a little presumptuous (I prefer clients who take it more as ‘I’m ready to work it out if you are’) but hopefully means nothing bad. Be cautious, realistic, and it’ll be fine. Assess the details they send whenever they do and that’ll tell you if this is right or wrong.

You got this.

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Been commissioning for some time,not that much, although from what i've seen in the previous thread i guess i might be undercharging. i'm glad many people can make a good living out of this

>> No.3905556

>that pic
> i guess i might be undercharging
I doubt it.

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I make traditional stuff, DM at https://twitter.com/AdrianDibuja

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feels gud mang! Keep doing your stuff!

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3905022 No.3905022 [Reply] [Original]

>Be me
>Need charcoal pencils
>Usually buy the store brand 'cause the pro stuff is costly as shit
>Decide to change things up and buy some woodless charcoal pencils
>Got my mind set on store brand again
>Order two packs online
>Opt for in-store pickup
>Pick them up today
>Some based employee swapped out what I ordered with two packs of professional grade charcoal pencils
>Used coupon code, so I ended up paying half the price of one pro pack for two
Thank you, random employee.

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3905019 No.3905019 [Reply] [Original]

Is there an easy way to edit perspective? I feel like I should be able to select an area day for example the windshield of this car, treat it like a rectangle,
follow the tip and bottom all the way out to the left, and then pivot those lines around so that they actually point toward the vanishing point correctly. It should stretch the whole picture around that adjustment. Choose a few lines across the drawing that should be pointing at a vanishing point but aren't and then pivot them around so they point to the same spot. Is there anything like that? Something like the cage select is close but my brain is telling me they're is a more intuitive way to do this that I'm just not aware of.

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3904986 No.3904986 [Reply] [Original]

Hi everyone.
Ive been wondering, where do you all post art? Where is it the easiest to gain a following?
Deviantart seems to be dying off.
On twitter its hard to gai nany following/attention.
Insta is trash because of the cropping and little to no support on the desktop.
Tumblr is no good after the purge.
+ a snek i drew for attention.

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>> No.3905722

Twitter and instagram don't allow lossless formats for uploading art, correct me if I'm wrong.

>> No.3905742

How do you network in Twitter?

>> No.3905798

You don't twitter is dog shit for actually trying to talk to people

>> No.3905853

You are correct, deviantart also has changed their format now as they got acquired by wix and their images are compressed so it’s garbage to use as your “gallery”. As I said, I really do advise making your own site to host your art in high quality in addition to using social media.

You need to follow other artists and like/RT their stuff, even comment if necessary. Generally speaking it works on a “you scratch my back I’ll scratch yours” kind of method.
It’s easiest if you’re in a fandom or something, that’s the easiest way to make mutuals and catch other artist’s attention. If they like your stuff they’ll RT you and help you gain an audience.

False. I’ve made a lot of mutuals on there that helped me reach several thousand followers and boost my engagement, it’s the best for it because no other platform allows your mutuals with large audiences to directly showcase your work.

>> No.3905925

Post proof

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3904961 No.3904961 [Reply] [Original]


So what exactly did the main artist create if all his assistants in his studio are putting together the artwork?

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>> No.3905146

Peanuts. At least in the theater/opera industry.

>> No.3905864

i would like to think value would be determined by its quality. but the artist's value, if capable, would increase in folds, and that would be evident in their craft.

>> No.3905876

it's just a project isn't it. You can't consider it art done by a single individual, therefore you can't really consider it art in the first place

>> No.3905880

its art. if movies and video games can count as art than this is definitely art

>> No.3905887

Lol, Where do you get that for something to be art it has to he done by one single person? You know that would discredit 90% of art made throughout history, right?

Also, what >>3905880 said.

Art brainlets get out of my board.

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3904740 No.3904740 [Reply] [Original]

reference/resource thread

ill start


>> No.3904764

>Why yes I'm a male model, why do you ask?

>> No.3905461
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>> No.3905465

more gigachads pls

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3904709 No.3904709 [Reply] [Original]

Girlfriend made it, wants to know how is it.

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>> No.3904942

Is your girlfriend single?

>> No.3905042


go fuck yourself normie

>> No.3905252

she isn't drinking enough water

>> No.3905256

Fuck off

>> No.3905285

Holy fucking based

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3904643 No.3904643 [Reply] [Original]

Someone posted the picture a few months ago, I've been looking through the archives but can't seem to find it. This is what I remember:
>has a watercolor feel to it
>light value contrasts, kinda dreamlike
>warm orange vs cool blues in the majority of his/her work

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Something Like this?

>> No.3904698

Yes, also the values look like this one's

>> No.3904704
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I'm browsing through the boorus trying to find it. Looks kinda like pic related

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Okay, I finally found the artist after looking through the archives again. Her name is Mizu Sahara

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3904636 No.3904636 [Reply] [Original]

drew some kinda thing without using any lines n i dont do lineless a lot so im not super confident but hey give me ur honest opinion

>> No.3904658

¿can you post it without chromatic aberration?. Also, it's the kind of piece that gets made by the title; got one?

>> No.3904665

sorry, theres no way i can take tht off :( i havent really thought of a title. maybe fishbox or smth dumb idk

>> No.3904902

Nice fish but why make a new thread instead of posting it in the art thread, also why do you type like a teenager?

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3904611 No.3904611 [Reply] [Original]

sense of aesthetic is pretty much important aside from proper perspective and sense of anatomy innit? I see plenty of twitter whores who have sense of perspective and anatomy yet their art looks unpleasantly autistic. Can we conclude thus that good artists are in fact opposite of autism?

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>> No.3904626

Don't know about autism, but the sense of aesthetic/beauty/harmony, good taste or whatever you want to call "it" is pretty much what separates a good artist and a bad artist, because you can't improve/train "it", only feed "it" more points of reference.

>> No.3904667

>unpleasantly autistic
Post samples I need to see

>> No.3904707

I forgot people are so autistic nowadays we have to separate good artists from bad artists based on how anatomically/perspectively correct something is drawn, which is very sad. Thanks for correcting me, guess I've been browsing "professional" amateur artists too much. *unfollows every single of these autists*

>> No.3904841

>Can we conclude thus that good artists are in fact opposite of autism?
Nah. They're aspies.

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3904604 No.3904604 [Reply] [Original]

soulless edition.

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Thanks man! Looks like I need to invest in more art supplies if I'm gonna emulate that look

>> No.3905235

Please, don't tell me that's halo current art style

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kindly what kind of pencil is used here?

>> No.3905844

I was going to tell you exactly how, but your attitude kinda ticks me off, so I'll just let you off with a small hint: Javascript

>> No.3905847


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3904547 No.3904547 [Reply] [Original]

>so why do so many anons here pretend like being an artist is a huge turn off for getting a gf/bf or being popular in general

is it because of muh competition?

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>> No.3904577

my dream is to live in a world where everybody knows to draw, so if I marry a girl which doesnt know how to draw she atleast has to be down to learn

>> No.3904581

He sounds like a beta
He should be proud of you and work really hard to keep up with you instead of moping

>> No.3904635

real life isn't anime

>> No.3904672

hm.. it is a bit shitty, him being jelly I mean. Not gonna say "he should be proud" and stuff like that, that's up to everyone to decide for themselves how they deal with their feelings... but maybe he just worked longer there and casually expected a promotion.

All in all I think he should show some face and acknowledge your dedication and try to be happy for you.

>> No.3904675

Spoken like a true inexperienced underagefag

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3904509 No.3904509 [Reply] [Original]

Do you use a manikin?

What purpose do they serve?

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>> No.3904905

>$100 used is the cheapest price I can find
yikes, I got my little art manikin for less than $10

>> No.3904956
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Yeah, it's expensive as fuck, but that's just the fig the Watts Atelier recommends.
Any Spiderman figure works as long as it is posable.

It's best to just grab a cheap one from your local store.
But you got those $10 cheated out of your wallet, man.

>> No.3905021

>accurate musculature

>> No.3905035

virtually worthless for poses, but can be at least semi useful for drapery

>> No.3905082

Accurate as in "simplifies and defines the muscle groups in an accurate way". It actually follows the same forms as the Loomis manikin in his figure drawing book, that's why it's recommended at the Watts Atelier.
Of course you ain't gonna find a 100% anatomically correct figure, you dummy.

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3904487 No.3904487 [Reply] [Original]

Ok /ic/ how do I draw like this guy ?

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Nice taste for a wojack poster
reminds me of SMT and some stuff from Lord of Trash

>> No.3904915

What the fuck OP I thought I was the only one here that knew about this guy's stuff, now I have to kill you

>> No.3905677

h i g h c o n t r a s t

midtones are for suckers

>> No.3905707

post his work in this thread cause im too lazy create an account for pixiv

>> No.3905740


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3904475 No.3904475 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

>buy 18 year old paper
>draw little girls on it
>people get mad
>tell them the drawing is at least 18
>peoples brains explode and then die

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>> No.3904525

>the subject
my imaginative anatomy that is made into lines on paper is a real minor that needs to be protected?

>> No.3904528

this anon is right OP >>3904501
nature has wronged you in birthing you an autistic loligagger, so you are exempted from all judgment and have every right to draw a million violated lolis and wave them in every normalfag's face
god bless america

>> No.3904574

must be literal brainlets if they consider paper has anything to do with pedophilia.

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>> No.3904579

How do you draw an "underage" character? What are they "underage" for? Sex? It's a bunch of lines on a canvas, how the fuck are you going to have sex with that? Kys

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3904441 No.3904441 [Reply] [Original]

Bought some of these, how easy is it for a beginner to draw with. Also post charcoal drawings you like itt

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>> No.3904496

How are anko charcoals?

>> No.3904502

fuck vine charcoal, it's like the hb pencil of charcoal.
its a mess and you have to smudge it around to shade. Try making simple shapes and shading them with just the material you made your lines with.

>> No.3904503

Are charcoal pencils the same as charcoal sticks bt more refined? Why use lead/graphite pencils then?

>> No.3904520

the sticks are closer to pastels. Different strengths and weaknesses. Charcoal smears everywhere and you have to use a fixative multiple times, and it will still smear.

>> No.3904907

charcoal requires you to think like if you were painting and not drawing.
Do not think of lines.

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Funny story of a kid that gets traumatized at church and decides to create a demon to protect himself.

>> No.3904417

confirmed. Not disappointed.

wtf did I just watch

>> No.3904423

what the hell.
How much of this is ironic?

>> No.3905718

you cant read or see words in dreams fucking faggot
do some research before making those shitty made up videos

>> No.3905802

This has nothing to do with this board, barely qualifies as an animation and the story was not only mind-numbingly dull but also absurdly long and convoluted like a child is telling it, except it's an adult with the mind of a child. Chris-chan tier

>> No.3905940

The animation says he "can't remember the details" of even signing the demon's name into it's book. Doesn't sound like the guy who made the video is really "reading" in his dreams. Sounds more like how you "know" that something happened in your dream, but when you wake up, you know that you didn't even visualize it.

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3904392 No.3904392 [Reply] [Original]

What are the places online/offline to get actual commissions that are worth doing?

And I'm not talking about the places where DA "artists" make 10$ fastfood charts or any of those degenerate smut websites where they make furry or porn commissions.

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>> No.3905037

Thank you for explanation, I really appreciate it!!! Last question on my mind, are you focused on illustration or do you work in different fields? I'm a bit confused right now as an intermediate about whether should I focus on particular field i want to work in because I like different stuff like plen air painting, illustrating, graphic work etc or just don't worry and when I get better try applying for work in different fields and see what goes well? I would be thankful for any advice considering defining what kind of art career to pursue

>> No.3905128

It serves as an extended portfolio and shows your public facing skills. It's also a general gauge of interest in your art, not so much the follower count unless it's crazy, but that other people see value in your work. An AD or editor doesn't have to like your work to know it will sell, but a quick glance at your social media can sway their opinion a little. I mostly use social media to weed out crazies and shitheads, but a clean presence with good metrics can move you higher up in the pile.

There's value in the things you mentioned because they can make you the most money and some of then add to your CV.

>> No.3905752

Very good thread, thank you ogreanon

>> No.3905821

I thought I'd never see a piece of helpful advice on this board. Thanks.

>> No.3905833

What market? What kind of work? Buy out? License? Physical art? Digital?

Easy answer: hustle. Figure out what market you want to work in, find out who buys art. Contact them. Ask how to submit a portfolio. Do that. A lot.

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