/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>you just can't tell an artist the way where he should go

This is the same as saying "you just can't tell a mechanic the way where he should go" or "you just can't tell a lawyer the way where he should go".

Think of art in the same context as any other professional field. Without study of the foundations and methods those before you have conveniently established for your benefit you run the risk of never making substantial progress. If you want to make abstract art based intuition alone that's fine because there's no fear of progression or regression for that matter, you just do whatever you feel like and try and make it sound cool.

http://io9.com/5811891/scientific-proof-that-abstract-art-is-only-4-better-than-what-a-kid-could-do

update

Update

>tfw rolled a 1
>tfw can't render
>tfw don't know what fire looks like

S-someday, r-right guys! ha ha!

>>1760997
>>1761004
Damn nigga you trippin'. You been feeling those poses again? I told you about that shit, I warned you dawg.

>>1760286
I'd thought ages ago that simply owning an expensive tablet would impress upon me the skill and vision needed to be a competitive artist (somehow) and as I'd sat there in front of my computer monitor, dumbfounded at how I was to go about putting my thoughts into images, I learned the terrible truth. That there are no shortcuts, that I had no idea how to draw anything and that pissing a shit load of money away on the most expensive and worst tablet I've yet owned (the Wacom Cintiq 12wx) didn't change that in the slightest.

Maybe consider putting the tablet down and picking up some paper and pencil, first. Start working on your muscle memory and other fundamentals before anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZmwHU7vZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>1760231
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain is good but relies too much on a bunch of ridiculous accessories. I would suggest reading the first two chapters of that book to familiarize yourself with its titular concept and then put that book away and pick up Dodson which starts out with some very good basic mechanical skills if I recall (tfw I've yet to finish any single drawing book because I'm too spastic)

>Should I go over each exercise more than once

If you feel you didn't "get it" the first time over then by all means.

>>1760189
This is normal. You'll get there just keep on practicing G money. For one, Loomis has a mental library accrued from a decades long career as a professional illustrator, you have a mental library from a week of looking at the dude's most rudimentary publication. You should post your work so we can see what your underlying problems might be.

>>1760171
>that not so subtle shading on the right one's wow hole area

L-...lewd

>>1759707
>How did I do?

Bretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWI9wq97Bs

>>1759684
>Try giving a look at pictures of nude men

B-...but that's gay, bro! I don't need to look at naked dudes to learn more about what knees look like or where the shoulders and arms go!

Thanks for the advice though, I am very weak when it comes to anatomy. I've done almost no serious study on it and what landmarks I may have gotten correct by happenstance are just due to my prolific experience making ridiculous contour heavy not-gestures on posemaniacs.

While the anatomy is probably all kinds of fucked up in ways I'm too unschooled to perceive this certainly error-ridden image felt really good to make nonetheless. There was a sort of nonchalant ease in its creation wherein' I'd went from the head construction to the body from imagination alone that I'd never experienced before; as if the things I'd erstwhile studied are slowly taking their first tentative steps towards falling into place.

>>1759561
Perspective is very important to a (traditional) animator. Probably one of the most important things, in fact. I would agree that values, colo(u)r theory and composition are less so, though.

>>1759260
Nah, still on Loomis. I just somehow ended up making one of the dudes look asian unintentionally not once but twice. I should probably be zooming in farther so I can make more accurate lines.

>>1758804
Couple other problems I'm seeing. Sheeeeeit!

>tfw fairly consistently putting the ear too far back on the head (>>1757716)

I'm not on the part of the book where Loomis explains the construction in detail; I just sort of vaguely remember this construct from FWAP. Hopefully the next few pages will prove illuminating.

>>1758598
For a surface that calls for many near-uniform micro-repetitions or patterns making a custom brush is never a bad idea homey. I'm an amateur so naturally this hastily thrown together maille brush looks shitty but it should give you a general idea anyway my negro. No matter how good the brush is though you're probably going to want to understate that shit in parts (in particular in low-light areas for example) and then "pop that shit out" by giving it more detail in others my niggity wiggity biggity diggity.

>>1757995
>>1758110
Yeah I just found a local seller offering a 5 CIB barely used for $200; couldn't pass it up, I figured it would be nice to have the 1:1 with my laptop monitor that the Intuos 3 doesn't have but in practice the difference is barely discernible if at all. The Intuos 3 rocks dick holy fuck.

I've got an Intuos 5 large at home and the previous owner has a sort of plastic surface cover on it that neutralizes the ridiculous grit; I've got something to that effect en route for this new one (http://www.amazon.com/POSRUS-Intuos-Medium-Tablet-Surface/dp/B007IWKQQQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403329844&sr=8-1&keywords=intuos+5+surface+cover)) but it won't be here for a week or so and the thought of going through like 4 nibs during that time is terrifying, son.

>>1758030
It's a combination of various things

I've filled several sketch pads with circles and lines so I've got fairly good control with both my wrist and shoulder when drawing. These kind of manual skills are very important and for some reason a lot of art instruction books like Loomis' and Betty Edward's books completely neglect to talk about it at all if I recall correctly.

Also, the thicker the line the more leeway you have; if you're using a very small line on a high resolution image your line is going to look like down syndrome. Try increasing your brush size relative to the canvas size and note the results. Definitely zoom in a good deal, too. When you see really super smooth lines it's typically the result of an artist zooming right up in that shit.

>tfw bought an Intuos 5 medium to replace a fully functional Intuos 3 6x8 and the nib already looks like shit after these two drawings.

Holy damn!

>>1757785
Thanks.

>wtf is this

I was going to do like a laurel kind of design on the headband but the lazy way I did it in the initial sketch made it look like a really bad hairline.

>>1757726
T-that bad?

Those spikey things are just her headband, f-for the record! N-no symbol drawing!