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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K)
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>R7 1700X - Budget video editing
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
>B-die is EOL, stock is limited

GPUs based on current pricing
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS
>2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive

>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>Don't use Speccy
>Don't trust sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"

more: https://rentry.co/pcbg-more
>>72142064

>> No.72149056

>update zen 2 to latest drivers
>cpu voltages increase
>Now it won't drop below 1.019 volts in power saver, before it dropped to 0.825v
I just knew if I updated something would get worse...

>> No.72149089

Rebumping my build. General gaymen and carrying over a few parts from my current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdh9hy

>> No.72149101

>>72149056
thanks for beta testing

>> No.72149108

>>72149089
get a 2600 instead
3600 is 75% more $ for only 20% more fps
save that money to upgrade to 4700x when they release

>> No.72149119
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72149119

is it worth to get a 590 or 580 NOW, and wait some years to upgrade cpu/gpu

or upgrade cpu and gpu later this year,(8core and 5700-or better

im wondering if the rx5700 will be bottlenecked by my ryzen 5 first gen -nonX,

and if it is would the 580-90 last me 3 years at 1080p high gaming 75 fps,

im wondering since idk if the ryzen 5 is enough for AAA game streaming as its only a six core so its prety tight

>> No.72149124

Is there any guide for choosing monitor? I mean, the specific models: they're all called similarly in unclear ways, it's a mess.

>> No.72149128

>>72149108
sounds good. Would the 2600 be just at Futureproof(tm) as the 3600?

>> No.72149146

>>72149128
yeah in the sense that 6c/8t wont be very future proof considering next gen console will be 8c/16t
better go 3700x instead of 3600 for future proof
or if you can't afford it go for 2600 and ave for 8c/16t in the future

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72149225

>tfw you hadn't hit the bottom of the thread yet and made a new post even though the new thread was already up

Fug.

So b350 boards don't have PBO with the new Zen stuff. Does it really mean anything though? They're not even staying at their supposed stock boost speeds most of the time so my 3800x isn't ever going to need to OC itself past 4.5, even with my beef ass cooler. Unless PBO does some other magic I don't know about.

Luckily I'll have all those nice moist gains from having ram that can OC to 3600 16cl since that seems to be where you get most of the performance gain. Definitely won the lottery since my 3200 rated shit does it without any work whatsoever.

>> No.72149266

>>72149108
Man 4700x / 4800x gains are going to be microscopic.

>> No.72149280

>>72149146
>yeah in the sense that 6c/8t wont be very future proof considering next gen console will be 8c/16t
You're an idiot.
They'll be running at around 3GHz, not 4ghz+. So they'll be equivolant to a zen2 6 core.

>>72149119
What does "worth" mean?

>>72149089
Get a smaller case.
Get 2x8GB of RAM holy shit.
CPU is overkill for that GPU.

>>72149266
You say that every year only to get BTFO every time, intcel.

>> No.72149291

>>72149280
as in will it last me and be sufficient for streaming when paired with my cpu or will it be too weak and im spending money on the wrong compnent

>> No.72149298

>>72149280
I have a 1600 anon. Besides the leap from 14 to 7 is going to be the biggest factor for everything anyway.

>> No.72149314

>>72149298
~80% of the perf gains in zen2 were architecture changes, not node changes. You're an idiot.
Zen3 is also on an improved node.
AMD is doing double digit performance gains every year for the foreseeable future.

>> No.72149325

https://youtu.be/L5Zk7NGSlNM

>> No.72149340

>>72149325
delete this!
think of my stocks!

>> No.72149345

Never had an amd gpu.
How much worse is the software experience?
I'm mainly interested in drivers just working having no problem with emulators, overriding some game settings like with the nvidia control panel.

>> No.72149356

>>72149325
It's like the bulldozer module all over again... I wonder how much this affects the 3700X i'm going to pick up from the mail

>> No.72149384

>>72149345
Amd drivers are terrible, it takes atleast a year to make them stable on new cards. Plus old games are unplayable.

>> No.72149397

>>72149384
Is it really that bad? I do enjoy playing some older titles from GOG.
I wanted to get the 5700xt but now I guess its between the 2060s and 2070s

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>>72149034
Off to build my pc, see you whenever I finish anons.

>> No.72149423

>>72149325
A YOUTUBE VIDEO, IT MUST BE TRUE

>> No.72149442

>>72149325
didn't this hairlet btfo'd himself about navi and then scrambled a shitty excuse video?
at least he's not as retarded as butthurtTV

>> No.72149445

>>72149345
It's better, except right after releases like this. Just how geforce drivers were awful after RTX release for a couple of months.

the >old games unplayable
is a psyops meme. Nvidia has the same issue.

>>72149325
Wow you can just change "AMD" to "Intel" and it's the same shit. But because AMD does it, it's bad.
Intel CPUs don't pin themselves to the rated boost speed under a single threaded load, either.

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72149521

I am thinking of getting this ugly boy for a 3600 because I'm sick of waiting for msi to sort their shit out and I've heard good things about this one (namely good vrm and price point/efficiency).
Any egregious BIOS issues I should know about involving ryzen 3000 series and asus x570 boards or are they relatively clean? Will I be able to straight out disable the chipset fan in bios?

>> No.72149526

Does anyone know of any useful benchmarks for cpu single-core heavy games like stellaris, dwarf fortress, civ 6 etc? I'm weighing between i7 9700k and 3700x and 3900x and I'm trying to gauge how big the diff actually is.

>> No.72149542

Which cooler would be the superior choice for thermals, and which one for noise? I can get either for the same price. The coolers in question are the Hyper 212 Black & the DeepCool Neptwin V2.

>> No.72149548
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>>72149034
I bring you gifts today.

>> No.72149564

>>72149548
What the fuck is this contrarian shit?

>> No.72149572

>>72149034
B450 Tomahawk for 3900x that I'm not planning to OC. Ok?

>> No.72149591

>>72149548
>nocuta again

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>>72149034
anyone have any idea when these will be in stock and where to buy them?

>> No.72149626

>>72149034
Based Gen Y

>> No.72149649

>>72149615
>those gigabyte windforce/g1 fans
Oh no it's going to be loud isn't it :(

>> No.72149658

>>72149548
Heres how I "fixed" the noise and heat from my Vega56 Pulse:
Sold it and got a 2060 Gaming Z.

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>>72149649
fan noise is soothing

>> No.72149664
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>>72149034
>>72149564
>>72149591
I made a small correction.

I should also mention that those 2 fans are replacing the stock fans that came with the Vega card. This isn't a case cooling test, rather a GPU fan test.

>What the fuck is this contrarian shit?
It's my honest tests anon. I originally got the fans because I wanted to test how much of a difference pressure optimized fans make in heatsinks. As from my research, the nocuta fans were supposed to be better with no obstacles but fall off to equal level with grid mesh or dust filters and then being overcome by pressure optimized fans.

My results agreed with it, but more importantly I was surprised that the arctic fans are actually quieter.
As the nocuta fans at higher speeds get this low base hum, that really penetrates case isolation or headphones, compared to higher frequencies where case foam, and headphones block it quite well.

In any case the main downside of the arctic fans was that they consume more current over the nocuta ones, they have no vibration dampening silicone on them(but the vibration wasn't an issue for me at least, perhaps if you stick more of them in case it does become an issue.

Considering they cost more than twice as cheap at the nocuta ones, provide better cooling for a heatsink, and were quieter for me personally.
I do suggest people consider these to test out if they are thinking about getting fans for either heatsinks (GPU CPU, or with very obstructed intakes, such as 90 deg angles, and dust filters)

>> No.72149676

>>72149615
TaoBao or AliExpress. I see lots of Yeston cards on AE, but no 5700 series yet.

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>>72149658
A far more sane path than the one I followed it seams.

>> No.72149694

I can only set my core clock by increments of .05 on my z390 gigabyte board, is there any way to do it by increments of .01?

>> No.72149723

So is there any point to putting the side on my case if I don't have to?

>> No.72149770

>>72149723
Airflow

>> No.72149780

>>72149034
What’s the best motherboard for a 9900K?
Are there any mobo’s that could support a 9900 now and an AMD in the future?

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>>72149034
>>72149564
>>72149591
>>72149664
By the way here is the info that originally made me give this thing a shot and test things out.
It showed both a lower noise and better performance in the specific task I was planning to use them.
Here is the link to the source
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/kuehlung/47628-arctic-bionix-p140-und-p14-pwm-pst-im-doppeltest-die-p-serie-verspricht-hohen-statischen-druck.html?start=7
Be sure to look at the noise level compare

>> No.72149806

I'm building a PC to replace my gaymin laptop:

Laptop specs:
>I7-6700HQ
>GTX 960m
>16gb 2133mhz ram

PC Specs:
>3200g
>A320M-HDV R4.0
>2x8GB Corsair 2666MHZ ram
>Generic MATX case with PSU

Is this enough to play esports titles on low textures with discord in the background

>> No.72149849

>>72149325
This guy seems like the biggest bitch of the whole group of tech e celebs and that is one hell of a statement

>> No.72149851

>>72149806
IIRC csgo and rainbow Six ran fine on low using the 2200g.

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>>72149806
on low yes,

only esports i play is league of legends and on that apu youll get easily 100fps even at medium settings or high

dunno about csgo but over 60 fps should be fine

overwatch 60fps will run too

>> No.72149873

>>72149856
Csgo ran very well with the 2200g, i believe it was 120fps on 1080p low, so the 3200g should run even better

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>>72149851
>>72149856
>>72149873
Do you think I could get away with using 8gb of ram lul

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>>72149521
pls respond
I want to get my build sorted finally

>> No.72149904

>>72149895
for those games and discord totally, i have 16 gigs and i rarely ever use it all (just got it for future proof)


your fine with 8 gigs,

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72149913

So, now my 5700XT after new drivers doesn't work in games. But I can use it in benchmarks anyway, another win of AMshit, lol.

>> No.72149916

>>72149806
r5 1600 (can find it for $80-$110) and RX570. 3200MHz RAM. b450m steel legend or something like that for board. Q300L case. Whatever 500W PSU you can find for around $35.
3200g iGPU is weaker than the 960m.
>>72149895
2x8GB is only like $75. Just get it.

>> No.72149917

>>72149397
>wants to buy 2070s to play ancient games
lmao

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>>72149904
Thanks fren

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>>72149921
np fren

>> No.72149942

>>72149916
I have no money for a gpu as of now ;_;

>> No.72150002

>>72149942
I don't understand, why not just use your laptop? Why make a desktop that's worse?

>> No.72150020

Its been about 2 years since I built a PC. What happened between then and now that I have to pay 200 dollars MORE for a motherboard with out integrated graphics?

>> No.72150022

Can any of you faggots talk me out of buying a 9900X ? 10 core 20 threads 4.4 all clock, low latency.

>> No.72150025

>>72149942
dont listen to him the apu is better than your laptops gpu in usability and comfort, and besides you can add gpu when you have money

>> No.72150029

>>72149034
Its been over a week since I ordered a "Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite" and they just changed the availability on the store to uncertain which means I will probably have to wait another week. Should I cancel the order and get a ASUS Prime X570-P today so I can finish this fucking build?

>> No.72150032

>>72150002
My laptop is more of a portable workstation that I want to use for other stuff as opposed to gaymin

>> No.72150035

>Fractal Design Meshify C
>Lian-Li Lancool One
>Lian-Li PC-O11 Dynamic
>Redline RL06
>SilentiumPC Regnum RG4TF
>Zalman Z3 Plus
>NZXT H500

Which one do you consider the best in thermals, noise, or cable management and why?

>> No.72150037

>>72150020
mobos dont have igpus in them, its not the 90's

>> No.72150039

>>72149056
AMD has stated that the CPUs will run at a higher clockspeed in part to prevent the voltage spikes people would see with monitoring software, so you might see a higher base speed voltage on your CPU, but on average it's probably consuming the same amount of energy since it's not making crazy voltage spikes like it used to.

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>>72150037
OK then. Im a fucking retard. Tell me what this means.

>> No.72150058

>>72150020
nobody forces you to buy a stupidly expensive mobo.

>> No.72150073

>>72150058
Thats what Im trying to do but its like I entered the Twilight Zone and every motherboard less than 300 dollars has integrated graphics or I have gone retarded. I will not have integrated graphics in my house!

>> No.72150077

>>72149119
what GPU are you planning to upgrade from and what ryzen 5 model do you have?

>> No.72150086

>>72150057
>>72150073
that just says what kind of APU woukd be supported.

>> No.72150112

>>72150086
>An IGP is a graphics chip that is integrated into a computer's motherboard. The IGP serves the same purpose as a video card , which is to process the graphics displayed on the computer. Integrated graphics processors take the graphics portion of the processing load off the main CPU .

>> No.72150114

safe to oc ram to 1.47v? e die
3600 c14 from 3000 c15

>> No.72150125
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>~700 $
>pic
>Video editing, working with graphics, some 3d

>> No.72150131

>>72150057
actual >90 iq.
the integrated graphics only works for ryzen apus.

>> No.72150166

>>72150112
wrong

>>72150125
why are you showing US prices when you're in the EU?
For $640 US, this is a super shit build.

>> No.72150186

>>72149345
I personally prefer AMD drivers since they only run on a single program, whereas Nvidia has the old control panel+geforce experience as 2 sperate things for some reason (you're also forced to log in to an account if you want to use geforce exp).
As far as emulation goes, dolphin was the most demanding emulator I ran on my r9 390 and it worked perfectly for me on most games I tried.

>> No.72150195

>>72150166
Then you live in another timeline than the rest of the world.

>> No.72150227
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COME ON MSI, HURRY UP AND RELEASE THE MAX MOBOS ALREADY

>> No.72150233

>>72150195
Imagine being as retarded and wrong as you are, yet being sure that you're right anyway.

>> No.72150264

>>72150233
Then what do they mean by onboard integrated graphics other than onboard integrated graphics?

>> No.72150279

>>72150264
It's integrated on certain CPUs, not the board, smoothbrain.
Graphics integrated on motherboards hasn't been a thing for roughly a decade.

>> No.72150302

>>72150227
They were spotted on Amazon de and fr by some Anon a few threads back.

>> No.72150323

>>72150279
Does not make sense that the only ones that do not list this option are the 300+ dollar boards and for every brand.

>> No.72150335

>>72150227

My pre-ordered tomahawk max didn't ship today as well. Yesterday it said, 'probably available on august 2nd' and now it changed to august 5th.

I'm fine if it takes a few days longer since my RAM isn't here yet either, I just hope this doesn't turn into some endless cycle of delays.

>> No.72150342

is this okay or do i need improvements? if so what
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HBcMJ8

>> No.72150355

How long does it take for top of the line processors to decline in price?

>> No.72150357

Lian Li O11 Dynamic or Fractal Design Meshify C?

>> No.72150378

>>72150357
O11 can't fit beefy cpu coolers and has worse airflow. Meshify c is probably a safer option in the long run.

>> No.72150397

>>72150357
Where do you go to get the rest of the Lian Li case?

>> No.72150411

>>72150355

I think it varies it bit depending on circumstances.

Just google the price history of a few CPUs as an example and you might be able to make an educated guess.

>> No.72150415

>>72150355
Until the next one arrives or until the competitor has something better for it's price class.

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72150422

guys I need some help here

my Vega 56 has a HDMI 2.0B output, but my monitor is whatever the fuck 'HDMI' this is
are they compatible or not? I can't figure it out at all
I have no idea what type of HDMI this monitor is, I can't find any HDMI cables with 8 little slots like pic related, and I can't see how a 2.0b would work with it

>> No.72150424

>>72150357

I would take the Meshify C, but then again I'm a bit biased because I own the Meshify C.

>> No.72150429

>>72150378
Meshify C seems breddy short though, will either of these cases fit the likes of the Hyper 212 Black or the Neptwin V2? I'm having a hard time being able to discern the scale since i haven't had an opportunity to either inspect it in 3D or in real life.

>> No.72150445

>>72150429
If space is a major concern the meshify s2 is practically the exact same case but with a shitload more space. I actually ordered that one and will be building in it when I'm back from me grandma's

>> No.72150448

>>72150378
O11 Dynamic seems superior to the Meshify C in cable management on the other hand, and the PSU mount is dope, ideally this case could have a front fan configuration to prevent loss of air pressure on that 90 degree turn. I don't know if mounting rear fans is possible though.

>> No.72150458

>>72150357
Whichever one you like more.
>>72150429
Scythe fuma will fit in most cases.

>>72150342
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HBcMJ8
For what purpose?
Seems extremely mediocre. z390 board with an i5-9400, and only a 1660ti. And that GPU you chose has a solid milled heatsink.

>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PhkwGG
A lot better for only slightly more money.

>>72150422
your monitor is HDMI type-A while typical GPU output is HDMI type-C.

>> No.72150471

>>72150429

https://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/meshify/meshify-c

Just look at the specs to see what will or will not fit in the case. Max cpu cooler height is 172mm so you should be able to fit almost everything in there.

>> No.72150477

>>72150445
S2 is actually more a bit more expensive here than the O11 Dynamic (about 156$) because of the sweet 23% value added tax

>> No.72150478

>>72150448
yeah it's hard to argue against lian li's cable management/psu layout, it's really cool. I was going to use an O11 air which has better airflow but ended up returning it because I wanted to use a NH-D15

>> No.72150480

>>72150458
so will my monitor not work with the Vega 56, or are all forms of HDMI compatible?

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>>72150411
Good idea. Looks like I can expect a sale in November. Think ill plan for that.

>>72150415
Dont want to wait quiet that long, want to be done with this machine by the end of the year. Worried parts of it are getting close to their expiration dates.

>> No.72150495

>>72150478
O11 Air actually has inferior airflow compared to the O11 Dynamic because reasons and dust filters

>> No.72150499

>>72150495
with less restrictive dust filters I think it scores better but I have absolutely no hard numbers to back that up

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72150504

thoughts on the 500D?

would buy but people complain about the lack of space for cable management. probably my favorite looking case that doesn't have abstract patterns and subtle branding.

>> No.72150534

>>72150504
>>72150495
>>72150477
>>72150471
>>72150448
>>72150429
>>72150424
Meshify S2 is better.

>> No.72150535

>>72150480
Do you really need to be spoonfed this much? I already gave you the answer.

>>72150504
>thoughts
The larger your case, the smaller your penis.

>> No.72150588

>>72150535
So you recommend Mini ITX cases? Okay recommend me one.

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>>72150535
I can't figure it out man, here's the HDMI 2.0b the graphics card supposedly uses and then the port in the back of the monitor
all I can tell is that the shape is the same, but the pins and shit don't seem to match up, so I've got no idea if they'll work together

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>>72150504
how about NZXT H700 or Phanteks
Enthoo Evolv X

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>>72150534

>> No.72150622

>>72150588
phanteks evolv shift

>>72150592
idk i dont think those are actually pins in the female connector. Did you try it and see?

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>>72150597
>NZXT H700
I was looking at some reviews for H700i and the H200i. I see a lot of bad reviews on faulty tempered glass, nice case though.

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>>72150534

>> No.72150798

NR600 is the best airflow budget case.

https://youtu.be/Sytapy-WNs8

>> No.72150819

>>72150478
Got the O11 Dynamic and using a low profile cooler, specifically a Scythe Big Shuriken 3.
On max load 80C on a 120mm 1200rpm fan is pretty good, switching it out for a Noctua fan in a few days.

>> No.72150821

Anons I need some help with my new build.
CPU: 3700x
Mobo: MSI B450M Mortar Titanium
RAM: CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R

My problem is this RAM stick is not on the supported list of this particular motherboard.
Should I pull the trigger? or is there a chance it might not work.

>> No.72150839

>>72150774
And?

>> No.72150849

>>72150821
It should work anyway.

>> No.72150854

How does Threadripper deal with RAM? I care more about latency than total capacity, and I heard that 2933 is the max for a fully populated board. Is it better to run 4 DIMMs at 3200? Is the limitation here just cooling, power, or something else?

>> No.72150866

>>72150849
So they fixed all the RAM comparability issues?

>> No.72150867
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>>72150839
It's shit especially at its price point and you're retarded for buying it.

>> No.72150880

>>72150867
Literally doesn't make a difference, get a better cooler poorfag

>> No.72150889

>>72150866
Judging by the speeds you should be fine since 3700X natively supports 3200mhz.
I'm using memory not listed on the supported list on an Aorus X570 Master and XMP works out the box, 3200mhz CL16.

>> No.72150902
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>>72150880
The better cooler would work even better in a case that isn't shit.

>> No.72150908

>>72150889
That's a relief, since this RAM is supported by Asus B450 TUF Gaming motherboard, but not the MSI Mortar Titanium I was a little scared but you gave me confidence, thanks Anon <3

>> No.72150922

>>72150774
this chart shows that if you take off the foam insert it ties with the 2nd best case ever tested

>> No.72150977
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Full load temp on my shitty 9700kf with which I obviously lost the silicon lottery.

>> No.72151006

>>72149806
>from gtx 960m to iGPU
nigga wtf are you doing

>> No.72151010

>>72150922
Yeah and that case is $30 less.

>> No.72151031

>>72151010
the h500m is $40-$50 more expensive than the meshify s2

although personally I prefer the h500m for the meme 200mm fans the meshify s2 is a god tier case

>> No.72151036

>>72150597
go with the Meshify C instead

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>>72150227
last few left
limited run i told you guys
grab one now or never

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B07VB2BG3X/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B07VB2BG3X/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

>> No.72151075

>>72150227
Isn't MSI's Zen 2 BIOS still not updated since release?

>> No.72151080

>>72149034
At what % "drive remaining life" should an SSD be changed?

>> No.72151091

>>72150774
>on par with the O11 Dynamic
>third best without foam
The problem is?

>> No.72151103

>>72151075
>>72150227
I have the first MSI bios for 3000 chips on a b450 (non-max) and it works perfectly fine. Literally no issues.

>> No.72151118
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This the best case ever made. Period.
Prove me wrong.
Top tip: you can't.

>> No.72151125

>>72151091
gpu thermals mostly, the meshify has sort of a weird angled airflow that doesn't cool the gpu all that well compared to some other cases

the guy you responded to should have posted the gpu thermals chart. but gpu temps are not really a big deal.

also I like the 200mm fans on the h500m because they run at a lower rpm and have a much softer sound than 140mm fans, but you have to mod the case to install good 200mm fans because coolermaster used 25mm high bad 200mm fans instead of 30mm high fans for literally no good reason

>> No.72151148
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are there any good cube/dual chamber cases that are good?

has anyone experience with this case?

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>>72151118

>> No.72151198

>>72149521
Got this last Christmas. So far great board and easy install. Will post rest of build after work.

>> No.72151199

>>72151163
You look very happy in your photograph, what happened?

>> No.72151216

Which 2070 super cards do people have?
Been thinking about the MSI GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
I was also looking at the Gigabyte RTX 2070 super GAMING OC, but I have heard gigabyte is prone to break and also has shitty customer service?

I want something that is quiet and has fan stop at idle

>> No.72151236

>>72151148
the best cube cases by far were caselabs cases. it was always my dream to get one and I would have finally had my chance this zen 2 build if they didn't go under.

but they're out of business so; the other main cube case brand is thermaltake. their main cube cases the x5 and x9 are amazing cases but are really from an older generation. they're basically mass produced caselabs cube cases. if they were updated it would be an easy recommendation but nowadays not so much. it's too bad thermaltake decided to hop on the retarded tempered glass "sleek" bandwagon instead of going all in on airflow because they were ahead of the curve with that once upon a time.

you have the split case (this is really 2 cases stacked that you can also get separate)
https://www.thermaltake.com/core-wp200.html

and also some other ones, lots of good choices at smaller motherboard size

>> No.72151244

>>72151148
see
>>72151118

>> No.72151256
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How do you pick your GPU

>> No.72151268

>>72149896
I know Gigabyte had an update for their X570 boards that can turn the chipset fan off completely and it will only turn on when it's under heavy load, not sure about Asus other than their last BIOS update was on July 7th and MSI is still on the release BIOS.

>> No.72151273

>>72151216
>I have heard gigabyte is prone to break and also has shitty customer service?
there are people saying this about every brand

>> No.72151279

>>72151216
Nobody is buying Super because it's shit.

>> No.72151291

>>72151216
I've only bought Gigabyte video cards since the early 2000s.

>> No.72151295

>>72151279
>sold out everywhere instantly

>> No.72151313

>>72151273
Tell me about it. Every thread has some moron saying "don't buy *brand name*"

>> No.72151365

so why doesn't my 3700x bost more than 4250Ghz if there is temperature headroom ? (temp around 60-65°)

>> No.72151391

What AMD cpu would pair well with a gtx 970?

>> No.72151402

>>72151365
forgot to say only when gaming, in idle I can see it going for 4367

>> No.72151409

>>72151313
I was trying to figure out what brand motherboard to buy and went to look at some old gigabyte motherboard reviews to see how they held up. there were tons of furious people and low reviews. ok I guess gigabyte sucks. I'll check out asus. oh wait it's the exactly same thing. all of the motherboard brands I checked were nearly the same.

the problem is there are a lot of children buying these things, and then there are a lot of people who fuck shit up on their own and then blame the brand. then there are shipping errors, merchant errors, user error, acts of chance, all kinds of different stuff that can be the real problem. and customer service nowadays is almost always hit and miss across the industry, especially if the real reason your card blew up is if you decided to feed 1000v into it for sick overkill.

most of the brands that are still around and mainstream at similar price points are all quite similar. if you get into cutrate psus or something you can get yourself into trouble, or if you compare a 1 fan budget version gpu to a 3 fan high grade.

anyways though I buy gigabyte, evga, graphics cards and have never had any trouble with either.

>> No.72151425

>>72150821
you're fine. zen2 has very good memory compat

>>72151256
pick the one that runs what I want to run at the performance I want it to run at

>>72151295
>paper launch with no supply to pretend it's in demand and cover up how Nvidia sales are a billion dollars lower than they were 2 years ago

>>72151391
1600 or 2400G

>>72151365
>>72151402
Because games use more than 1 core.

>> No.72151438

>>72151391
buy an overkill cpu if you can, it's easier to upgrade your gpu down the line

>> No.72151445

At this point im just gonna buy the 9700k with all these b450 board issues.

>> No.72151451
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What's a good cheap mouse for 15 - 25 bongs? Is pic related good?

>> No.72151489

>>72151256
with my hands usually

>> No.72151498

>>72151445
don't, buy a 8700k or a 9900k, don't fall for the threadlet meme

>> No.72151519
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72151519

hey /g/
/an/ here
how many fans do I need for my pc?
i have a corsair 780t and right now it has one fan on the top, one fan on the back and 2 fans on the front. is that enough? or do I NEED to put as many fans as the case can take? also how do I know if the fans are bringing in or exhausting air? and is pic related an optimal set up?

>> No.72151528

Hello everyone I have to build a new rig for someone I know but I cant decide on what GPU to get for them, their budget is 300 to 450. Any good GPU'S out there with a price range like that?

>> No.72151548

Well, my computer suddenly shut down.
Now when I turn it on there's no video output from the mobo or GPU and keyboard/mouse either don't get any power or are not recognized.
My guess it's either fucked mobo or psu.

Any guesses/tips?

>> No.72151551

>>72151519
theres arrows on the side of fans that show you the way air goes but otherwise turn it on and hold string in front to check

there strong diminishing returns on additional fans and it also increases noise. I personally max out all case fan slots but also buy high quality low noise fans because I find the silence is so much more important to me than the overall thermals.

the layout you posted is by far the most common flow arrangement. you should default to it unless you have a strong reason to do something else.

the main question is if you have a cpu cooler which way do you blow, up or to the back. I personally blow to the back on cases like that.

>> No.72151552

>>72151273
>>72151291

Thanks, I did think it might be a bit overblown as usual yeah

>> No.72151553

>>72150077
, ryzen 5 first gen non x

current gpu is r9 270

>> No.72151564

>>72151519
what's your cpu and gpu

>> No.72151590

>>72151528
is that budget for the gpu or the whole system?

>> No.72151602

Whats the smalled atx size case i can get? i really like the corsair 280x but its a mini atx only. i want a want thats similar to that cases size

>> No.72151619

>>72151602
https://www.technewstoday.com/smallest-atx-cases/

>> No.72151620

>>72149521
I have this. No outstanding issues, except that the stock BIOS version left my ram running at 2400 instead of 3200. After updating, everything ran up to spec, but I'll admit I haven't messed with OC yet. Good board IMO

>> No.72151663

>>72151551
>>72151564
>turn it on and hold string in front to check
that's a good idea

have an i7 6700 non k (at stock speed) and a r9 380 (no overclock)
the CPU is being cooled by a noctua l9x65 (because I thought it looked cute)

>> No.72151676

>>72151663
>the CPU is being cooled by a noctua l9x65 (because I thought it looked cute)
absolutely based

>> No.72151705

>>72151663
i would recommend 2x 140mm front intakes and 1x 140mm rear exhaust, this creates positive pressure to keep the dust out and is plenty of airflow for your system. align the intakes so one fan blows under the gpu and the other onto the cpu if possible

>> No.72151706
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How do you /g/uys prefer your monoliths? White or black?

>> No.72151711

>>72149034

Whats the best airflow fan I can get? Building a nas and its a tower not a server case. Need to keep 8 hdds cool and I can put two 120mm fans right on them. Quiet fans would be nice as well but keeping the hard drive temps down is the priority. Define r5 case. Ive done this before and the hard drive temps get touchy easy even though they only 5400.

>> No.72151717

>>72151706
beige

>> No.72151719

>>72151590
On the gpu

>> No.72151732

>>72151717
Can't tell if noctua fan or boomer.

>> No.72151737

>>72151705
I see
so basically I should leave the same amount of fans I have but double check the ones in the front to see if they are blowing air directly to the CPU and gpu

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>>72151711

Rest of the working build if anyone cares. Those hdd brackets are getting dropped they were a thought when I was looking at other cases.

>> No.72151746

>>72149325
lmao at the comments

>Man, I really wish this was a livestream so we could all discuss this together... I could even superchat so you'd see my question pinned and you could read it out and my name.

>> No.72151760

>>72151711
https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-3000-pwm
beware, loud

>> No.72151771
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>>72151528
>>72151719
how can you have a budget only for the GPU? What if the CPU/monitor is too weak for a $300-$450 GPU?

>>72151711
arctic ones

>>72151602
thermaltake g3 is the smallest that I'm aware of.

>> No.72151779

LG 27GL850 when? I wanna upgrade from a slow 1080p/60hz IPS into a 2560x1440/144hz/fast/Adaptive Sync IPS.

>> No.72151799
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72151799

Good goy, buy our new videooven 5700xt for not playing games.

>> No.72151802

>>72151719
if you can wait a few weeks get a powercolor or sapphire RX 5700. if not, get an evga 2060 super

>>72151737
basically. any more fans wouldn't make much sense from a noise-to-performance standpoint

>>72151711
noctua NF-A14 for 140mm
noctua NF-S12A for 120mm

>> No.72151830
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72151830

How stupid would it be to pair a dark rock pro 4 with a 3600?

>> No.72151839

>>72151830
7/10
if you want absolute silence and top performance the dark rock 4 non-pro is already way more than enough

>> No.72151843

>>72151148
>>72151236
Riotoro CR1080

>> No.72151853

>>72151256
Given a certain price point for what I'm building (complete new build, or buying a few parts, or *just* getting one new upgrade), where does the GPU fall in my priorities (and why?, so that I'm not fucking myself over)?

That kind of gives closer ballpark to what you'll be willing to spend. After that, you just look at reviews/benchmarks and try to find what's best for your budget and system.

>> No.72151883

>>72151706
black is the only answer

>> No.72151891

>>72151771
When I build a rig usually start with the GPU since it's one of the most expensive things. The monitor and cpu will be adjusted to support the gpu

>> No.72151897

>>72151779
Multiple sites reporting availability in 2 weeks.

>> No.72151909

>>72151451
Yes. Great sensor and shape if you use claw or fingertip grip or if you have small hands.

>> No.72151968

>>72151706
I honestly want to get a white case for the new PC I'm building, but I haven't seen any decent options. Black has more choices, and they're all solid black, whereas the white cases are often a shitty combination of white sides with black front panels and whatnot.

>> No.72151993

Trying to put together a "budget" gaming build for a friend, what do you guys think? Mobo will be replaced with the Tomahawk Max whenever it finally comes out. He already has the case, and his monitor is a 1080p 144Hz w/ freesync.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sT7CsZ

>> No.72152007

>>72151760

I got two of these off ebay will see how loud it is. Its in a closet in a back room but it doesnt have a door for airflow reasons. I doubt it will bother me.

>> No.72152011
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Asus ROG 5700XT Strix will release August 16th

>> No.72152014

>>72151706
I love white but I built a black desk and it would be silly to use anything else at this point.

>> No.72152028
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>>72152011
There's also a TUF edition

>> No.72152030

>>72149664
Don't the nla adapter step voltage down? Ive only ever used the industrial ppc 3000 rpm fans from noctua and they don't use nla adaptors but you can crank them to 50% Thats still 1500rpm and pretty damn near silent for me.

I'd recommend testing without nla adapters or using industrial fans and 50% rpms.

>> No.72152069

>>72150035
Redline is the best without adding any extra fans.

If You're going to buy more fans go meshify C and tilt the drive cages back for 3 120mm intakes.

>> No.72152107

>>72151830

You can gets something a little cheaper like the Thermalright Macho that will also be more than enough in terms of termals and very quiet.

If silence is a high priority for you, it's not stupid to spend more on a cpu cooler, but you could get comparable performance for a little less.

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>>72152011
>>72152028
And drivers. Do you have them to play games or you will just watch youtube and play solitaire?

>> No.72152203

Lol, why everyone keeps silence? 5700xt doesn't work as should. Amd fucked up again.

>> No.72152274

>>72151830
get any decent used double tower, get the am4 kit
it doesn't make sense to get anything else unless you are doing ITX or have an extremely low budget

>> No.72152313

>>72152203
Yes, ESL. Please accept your 2 cents for your FUD efforts.

>> No.72152340

>>72152203
low effort post lad

>> No.72152355

>>72149034
Am I boomer for feeling so horribly nostalgic and relatable to this picture?
Why did video games have to become normalfag brainlet hobby like movies rather than stay nerdy?

On topic considering returning my 2x8gb ram and getting single 16gb for future upgrades. Will it hurt performance a lot till I get the second module?

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>>72152340
>>72152313
Please post your 5700 xt, amdiggers.

>> No.72152370

>>72152355
yes
get dual rank e-die 2x16

>> No.72152378

>>72151706
white gets dirty faster

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>>72152203
>>72152181
>p-pls notice me

>> No.72152399

>>72152365
>doesn't work as should
Maybe explain and demonstrate how/why?

>> No.72152400

Is this a good build?
The budget was £1000 with the monitor, mainly going to be used for fast as fuck compiles (gentoo and android) and some games/emulators (thinking dolphin/xenia and the likes)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/wcnGsZ

>> No.72152435

>>72152370
>yes
At least being a boomer is comfy. Zoomers have brains rotten by phones.

>get dual rank e-die 2x16
Too expensive at the moment. I'm buying computer in parts. And certainly not super premium stuff.

>>72152378
>black - instantly gets dusty
>white - ?

>> No.72152449
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72152449

This is my pc.

I'm a retard when it comes to pc technology.

Any 8gb DDR3 RAM is going okay right?
I want to trade this 2 GB RAM for 8.

>> No.72152453

>>72152400
it's p good, tho i would go for crucial ram instead of corsair

>> No.72152459

>>72152435
you can see the smears and dust easier on the white

>> No.72152462
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>>72152355
there are videogames out that are way nerdier than anything in the old days. videogames are better than they have ever been, with so much selection that it's become impossible to keep up with them. you just have to look beyond aaa titles.

some of the recent games I've been playing that I would consider very nerdy:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/722060/Dominions_5__Warriors_of_the_Faith/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/333640/Caves_of_Qud/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/722730/Cogmind/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/497800/Golden_Krone_Hotel/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/259680/Tales_of_MajEyal/

some more mainstream titles I really enjoyed are subnautica, xcom 2, kingdom come, into the breach, rimworld.

being nostalgic is fine and normal. but I'd rather have today's gaming landscape than the 90s. I remember the 90s too well. there were good games then, but not nearly as much as today. games today are just so good. hardware today is so much better too. you don't need to upgrade every 1-2 years to keep up and the value you get for your money is incredible.

>> No.72152467

>>72152399
Do you have 5700 at all? You will understand only you have it pleb.

>> No.72152469

>>72152400
why no nvme ssd? why nvidia if you are using linux?

>>72152435
e-die is cheap
crucial ballistix 3200c16, 3000c15

>> No.72152500

>>72152467
Great so you have literally nothing to say.

>> No.72152560

>>72152453
RAM has been noted, it's also cheaper lol
>>72152469
just found out the vega 56 performs slightly better (and is a better value), but I was just thinking about opengl stuff desu, but I think I should be fine. Thanks anyway.

>> No.72152605

>>72152274
I can spend a little bit more but the Noctuas are expensive as fuck compared to the dark rock 4 pro.

>> No.72152607

>>72152500
So you have no 5700 xt. Eat shit.

>> No.72152626

>>72152607
I don't buy bl*wers lad. I might buy a AIB card though and you've done literally nothing to put me off.

>> No.72152630

Recommended build for a 1080p/60fps machine? I'm not really picky with graphics but I'd appreciate it being able to do VR too. Budget is around 1500

>> No.72152643

>>72152462
The first and the last games look "oldschool". The last one looks like indie browser games from 2000's. As graphics designer, I'm confused about "bad pixel art = old game". Many old games very made in really HQ (by old standards) then downscaled, also many very made by artists like now, not made in paint. but that's off topic.

>> No.72152731

>>72151830
massive overkill.

>>72151891
k well 5700 or wait for 5700XT custom cards coming in a week or two.

>>72151993
>overspend on CPU
>underspend on GPU
>throw $55 at a fucking 250GB mediocre SSD
That build is atrocious
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PhkwGG
Q300L or something for case and it's only about $60 more for a much better build.

>>72152630
r5 1600, 580/590/1660, 450-550W PSU, and SU800 SSD.

>> No.72152745

>>72152643
>I'm confused about "bad pixel art = old game"
I'm not sure why you think that's what I said, there's nothing in my post like that at all. those are some very nerdy, challenging, deep, and compelling games that are modern.

my point is that there are plenty of amazing and deep games today and I would by far rather have today's gaming landscape than the 90s. the ones I listed don't have excellent graphics but there are plenty of modern games that do.

>> No.72152746

>>72152449
It's hardly worth buying DDR3 RAM at this point.
And that's 6GB not 2.

>> No.72152786

>mfw about to spend $140 on a fucking windows 10 Pro Loicense
Giving spare parts to little sister who will need legit Windows 10 because I don't live close. Don't have time to fuck around with Kinguin and eBay duplicate keys getting rejected by the OS.

>> No.72152797

>>72149056
Wut mobo?

>> No.72152819

>>72149119
Image sauce pls?

>> No.72152827
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>>72152786
i did ebay for 3 quid and it worked first time, your paranoid

>> No.72152835

>>72152786
if you're a university student or still have your email you may be able to get a free windows 10 education license from onthehub or elsewhere

>> No.72152839

>>72152786
HWIDGEN you retard

>> No.72152841

>>72152786
>don't have time to fuck around with grey market keys
Don't care. blog elsewhere

>>72152731
Oh oops, wrong RAM
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFRFFt
So really just $40 more.

>> No.72152851
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>>72152819
https://fr.hentai-comic.com/image/tachibana-omina-boku-wa-minna-no-kanrinin-ch-1-4/attachment/109/

is it really that hard to do a reverse image search?

>> No.72152857
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>>72152731
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fVvZgw
Then a dark rock 4 should be enough yes?
I'm going to order these parts soon, the mobo and psu are on sale so why not? and I'll pick the rest later, I'll keep an eye for any discount.

>> No.72152874

>>72152851
Ayyy you the mvp mate, thank you. I did reverse search three different ways but nothing came up, literally 0

>> No.72152895

recommended 1TB NVMe? something reasonably priced

location: finland

>> No.72152901

>>72152851
weird I'm ip banned from that site even though I've never been there

>> No.72152908

>>72152841
>Don't care
And yet you took the time to reply.
>>72152839
First I've ever even heard of this. How's your luck with it? No problems with the key getting kicked out?
>>72152835
Yea she's in college, I'll have to ask as this is another good route
>>72152827
For me I don't mind. But I'm 2 hours away as is and will be leaving the state soon too. Don't want her PC having problems when I'm so far away

>> No.72152914

>>72152874
what do you use?, i clicked on yandex and got it in literally 60 seconds

>> No.72152928

>>72152908
unless you enter the code wrong it'll work, but i get that trusting people to enter characters correctly can be an issue

>> No.72152955

>>72152908
>>First I've ever even heard of this. How's your luck with it? No problems with the key getting kicked out?
Works perfectly and gives a permanent hardware-based licence. Nobody ever had them revoked.

>> No.72152962

>>72152928
>>72152955
Sick. Thanks anons. Imouto thanks you too

>> No.72152968

>>72152605
that's why I said used, as in ebay or something aim for <50 USD including fans

>>72152626
why not get an aftermarket air cooler? the holes on reference pcbs are backwards compatible for like the last 10 years and probably for the next 10 years as well

>>72152895
adata xpg sx8200 pro

>>72152908
>Don't want her PC having problems when I'm so far away
>installs windows
???

>> No.72152976

>>72152746
I have one of 4 and 2.

>> No.72152980

>>72152901
>weird I'm ip banned from that site even though I've never been there
You country probably outlaws loli

>> No.72152995

>>72152980
I'm in canada, no idea what the rule is here since I'm not into that shit

>> No.72153002

What the fuck is happening with 3900X availability? I want to buy one. It's been nearly a month since it "released" and I still can't find the fucking thing anywhere, this shit is seriously getting annoying.

>> No.72153021

Is at least 5700 a must for 1440p gaming, or could I get away with a cheaper GPU if I don't mind not having the highest details?

>> No.72153027

>>72152995
>I'm in canada, no idea what the rule is here since I'm not into that shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_drawn_pornography_depicting_minors#Canada

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>>72152995
https://nhentai.net/g/159433/9/

try this alt site

>> No.72153030

>>72153002
the 3900x is a really highly binned chip, supply chain issues have made it so they can't keep with the demand. the drawback of their aggressive pricing is they have basically completely sold out. I'm actually glad the 3950x is a bit overpriced because otherwise it would be impossible to ever get one.

>> No.72153035

>>72152895
inland premium

>>72153002
Zen2 are the best selling desktop CPUs in at least 5 years. TSMC/AMD can't keep up with the demand. That's why the friendly Intel shills are trying to get people to buy Intel CPUs instead.

>> No.72153050

>>72153035
I feel like zen 2 woke up a TON of people who were sleeping on upgrades for years and years, too

>> No.72153051

>>72153002
Same here man. Ordered 7-7, still not delivered. The store I bought it at expects a large shipment half August. I'm in the EU.

>> No.72153078

>>72153002
sit on newegg and spam f5
they come into stock for about 30sec-5minutes
you have to be fast
if you're watching one of those "is in stock" websites, don't bother
it comes in and sells out before those sites even notice it was available

>> No.72153102

>>72153021
5700 is right on the edge
I'm waiting on 5700xt aibs for my 1440p rig

>> No.72153111

>>72153035
I almost bought a 9900K on sale, actually. A Z390 mobo with the features I want is cheaper than X570 too. I didn't in the end, though. If Intel didn't suffer from their shitty security holes and the consequently required castration patches I probably would have grabbed one.

>>72153051
I'm EU too. Haven't even ordered yet, since I don't buy things before waiting for some early user reports at the very least.

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Anyone have an RTX Titan? What have you paied it with? How well does it run?

Thinking of splashing out.

>> No.72153217

>>72149615
Don't buy chink shit

>> No.72153222
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Help where the fuck do these go they look like power plugs for my case fans but I don't know where on the motherboard they go

>> No.72153250

>>72153222
that's a 4pin molex, it goes on the end of the cables coming from your PSU

>> No.72153262

>>72153222
Holy zoom lad

>> No.72153265

>>72153050
Yep.
I would have liked to have waited longer, but 2500k was a stutterfest so I had to settle for a 1600 to hold me over.
Those 12 and 16 core parts are really nice for people who don't want to have to upgrade for another 10 years again. Like the 3930k of their time.

>>72153111
Don't forget the 9900k uses over 50% more electricity as the 3700X, as well. And for every watt of power, you also spend another 1.1 watts or so in cooling your house if you're in a warm climate, which adds at least $50 a year.

High power consumption can be fine if it's worth it, like with Threadripper. But the 9900k isn't worth it.

>>72153222
lmao your PSU probably doesn't even have those old things.

>> No.72153273

>>72153147
I don't have it but I've splurged on insane gpu setups before, and I would say honestly it's not worth it in general. it's better to upgrade more often. I have plenty of disposable income and I wouldn't buy a totl card again.

>> No.72153295

The Hyper 212 EVO Black sufficient for cooling a stock R7-1700X?

>> No.72153299
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>>72153217
just look at it, how could you not buy it

>> No.72153309

>>72153265
>lmao your PSU probably doesn't even have those old things.
not him but mine came with a 4 pin to molex adapter kek

>> No.72153316

>>72153273
Hmm that's probably true, but it's shiny...

>> No.72153335

>>72153273
Yep.
Spend ~$1000 on a GPU and in 2 years a ~$400 GPU will match it.
You're better off buying the best $400-$500 GPU every 2-3 years.

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>>72153250
>>72153265
Found some adapter thing they plug into the fans also have small sockets attached

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>>72151706
Will white cases, like the ever so shilled NZXT h500, eventually yellow? I'm considering getting a white case myself.

>> No.72153363

>>72153341
sup boomerbro

>> No.72153364

>>72153335
I couldn't comment on those numbers but that idea is exactly right. once upon a time I bought a quad sli 9800gx2 setup. although at the time it was delightful, the money was so very poorly spent and it would have been much easier for me to just upgrade a single card more often. if I could do it again I would just do that. gpus are by far the easiest part of the computer to upgrade and it only makes sense to take advantage of that fact.

>> No.72153375

>>72153299
Because I know it's Chinese, so that overrides the cute factor.

>> No.72153387

Thoughts on this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKPzbX
My current is from 2012 and I need to upgrade

>> No.72153399

How is this build anons?
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bC2r29
Anything I should change? What about CPU cooler?

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>>72153363
Is that a "no"?

>> No.72153404

>>72153339
The little fuckers next to the big jimmies on the wires look like they go straight onto the motherboard fan sockets.
What shitty case comes with fans like that anyway?

>> No.72153409

>>72153403
That is "go die pedo scum"

>> No.72153413

>>72153403
It's paint not plastic.

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>>72153409
Thanks frend.

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>>72153375
aslong as it lasts atleast a year im good if it dies i can throw the cooler on another gpu :3 aliexpress are pretty good with returns usually too

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>>72153404
Why the best review case on Amazon ofc, CIT-BLAZE-RED also they have three sockets while my mobo has 4

>> No.72153475

>>72153461
3 pins fit on 4 pin sockets perfectly fine, the tab is there so you line it up right. It's fine and normal.

>> No.72153483

>>72153461
never put electronics on the outside of a static bag

>> No.72153495 [DELETED] 

>>72153461
Which motherboard is that? I'm trying to decide which one to get for my ryzen CPU.

>> No.72153499

>>72153399
>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bC2r29
>gigabyte board
>using a HDD in 2019
Better off dropping to the 3600 to improve the rest of the build.
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/6T4NXP

>>72153453
Yeah, Navi uses a really standard mounting pattern so you should be able to throw the cooler onto many GPUs. However I think those shitty fans will probably die before the card does.

>>72153461
haha oh god

>> No.72153524

The part picker lists should include workstation builds too. Not everyone builds their systems purely for games, you know. You then have people without much knowledge of workstation grade hardware building workstations with consumer gaming hardware.

>> No.72153529

>>72153483
Did you actually listen to 9 year old kids from yt comments lmao ?

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>>72149034
Yikes

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>>72153499
fans dying is fine also those aren't hard to swap, it shouldn't be too bad i watched a yt review for one of their rx 4/5 series cards and the guy seemed to like it, although he wasn't a big youtuber so coulda been jaded by his wallet

>> No.72153539

>>72153461
>plugs CPU fan into SYS_FAN slot
>can't figure out how to plug a 3 pin case fan in
Fucking hell anon

>> No.72153543

>>72153475
Shat the bed thinking I fucked up, thanks

>>72153495
B450 gaming plus by msi

>> No.72153557

>>72153531
Obviously a driver issue.

>> No.72153572

>>72153543
>B450 gaming plus by msi
Ah thanks friend.
really appreciate it, I might buy one for myself.

How do you like it?

>> No.72153576

>>72153531
>RTX 8GB 2 070
>GTX 4 GB 1650
lmao

>> No.72153588

I don't want to wait 2 more weeks for the 5700xt aibs to come out
so I'm thinking I'll buy a 2080, then return it in 2 weeks when I get my 5700xt
who has the best returns, amazon?

>> No.72153599

>>72153588
Retards like you should never be allowed to buy anything.

>> No.72153600

>>72153588
Always amazon. No questions refunds within 30 days is unbeatable.

>> No.72153606

>>72153588
Just wait senpai

>> No.72153632

>>72153572
Comes with nice stickers, dunnowhat else to say because I've used it yet

>> No.72153646

>>72153632
oh alright ha.
Well hope it works out for you then.

>> No.72153651

>>72153600
I'm pretty sure amazon's returns are literally unbeatable, nobody is as willing to throw money away to stifle competition as amazon is, at least outside of asia

>> No.72153685

>>72151519
>>72151737
I can answer your questions anon if you are still interested.

>> No.72153721
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Is this normal? Doesn't seem normal if, is it still useable

>> No.72153731

>>72152030
>Don't the nla adapter step voltage down
Yes, that's exactly how you change the RPM on 3pin fans, like the 140mm NF-A14 FLX fans used.
Which gives you around 1050~ RPM.

>Thats still 1500rpm and pretty damn near silent for me.
Around 1000-1100RPM is the max for me, after that the nocuta fans are too loud for me, especially in the base department.

>I'd recommend testing without nla adapters
Then they are too loud for me.
>using industrial fans and 50% rpms.
I have a PWM 14 nocuta as well and it similarly gets too loud after 1000-1100RPM.

>> No.72153748

>>72153721
clean your floors slob

>> No.72153784

>>72153600
>>72153651
sounds good bros, gonna pick up a 2080ti

>> No.72153791

>>72152449
if you positively must keep using that machine you will have issues to find good ddr3 ram thats not used afaik.

dont buy used, buy of same manufacturer and size. 2 sticks of 8gb each with 1666mhz will likely be the best you will get, it wont even be expensive, just hard to get. also dont buy mismatched ram in any kind of category, be it brand or size, that will fuck things up.

>> No.72153803

I need some advice. I built a new PC and can't really decide on a monitor.

Build is:
Ryzen 3700X with the stock cooler
Gigabyte X570 Aorus elite (seemed to be the best one in the 200 euro range)
MSI 2070S Gaming X Trio (was under my budget and shop had lots in stock)
16GB 3600CL18 G.Skill (should have gotten 3200 for cheaper)
Seasonic 650 prime gold
2TB WD Black HDD (generic storage)
1TB Crucial mx500 SSD (games)
512GB ADATA XPG s8200 m.2 (wanted something good and cheap for windows)
Antec P7 Silent (for cooking this whole mess, it is a hot case, had to get higher rpm case fans to get air flowing, now cpu is mostly 70C and gpu 61C while gaming)

Will use this mostly for gaming and as a home pc.

What i need advice on is a new monitor type.
At the moment i have my old generic 24'' HP 1920x1200 60Hz office monitor.
I can't decide which would be better a 1080p 144hz monitor or a 1440p 60hz/144hz.
Another problem is that the largest monitor i can fit on my desk is 27''.
My ideal budget is about 300 euros.

>> No.72153819

>>72153803
LG 27GL850

>> No.72153837

who here has done the washer trick gamer nexus discovered?

is it worth it? does it really works?

>>72153803
2070s with setting tweak can do 1440p144hz
but for 300 eurs you will likely have to choose for a 1080p144hz for competitive gaems or a 1440p75hz for good looks

also consider keeping the old monitor as a second monitor, its really comfy to read in one monitor and write in another

>> No.72153860

>>72153748
>Hurr durr clean the floor
post tech advice or stfu

>> No.72153878

>>72153860
you live like a fucking slob loser

>> No.72153887

>>72153860
>>72153721
its "fine"

i dont trust that wire but debauer had a video of him literally clipping those wires and the gpu still worked until the last 2 black wires.

>> No.72153890

Why doesn't the OP list include intel CPUs?

>> No.72153924

>>72153499
>>https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/bC2r29
Is the Powercooler better than the Sapphire?

>> No.72153934

>>72153890
Because we shill AMD here

>> No.72153952

>>72153890
intel is obsolete

>> No.72153979

>>72153819
>>72153837

Thanks for the suggestions.

i'm wondering if 1440p with a 24'' monitor would be worth it?
Here 1440p/144Hz 27'' monitors start at around 350 euros, but 24'' ones are a lot cheaper. And most of them are Freesync not G-Sync.

>> No.72153988

>>72153878
I live how I want to live while you follow societal norms without question, you're the loser m8

>>72153887
Pls link vid

>> No.72154011

>>72153988
being a disgusting slob is perfectly normal, it's just revolting and says a lot about your poor self discipline and low standards for living

>> No.72154035

What's a good motherboard for a 2080ti and a 9900k? Purpose is 4k gaming.

>> No.72154046

>>72154011
>being this uptight
Go fap off with a anti bacterial wipe you sperg

>> No.72154072

>>72154046
there's no need to be so hostile. if anything you've brought me around to your side and I'll actually compliment you for being able to handle such poor living conditions, it definitely wouldn't be something I would be ok with and it's good that you've come to terms with it.

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>>72153531
at least you tried

>> No.72154092

>>72153588
do it and cum inside of it before you return it

>> No.72154114

>>72154111
>>72154111
>>72154111
>>72154111
>>72154111

>> No.72154121

I just purchased a Sapphire RX 5700XT. How badly did I fuck up?

>> No.72154123

>>72154072
>hostile
he isnt the 1 sulking over a dirty doorway

>> No.72154160

>>72154121
If it wasn't an aib you fucked up soooonnnn

>> No.72154176

>>72154123
But he is the one sulking over a dirty doorway

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>>72153837
>who here has done the washer trick gamer nexus discovered?
>
>is it worth it? does it really works?

>trick that gamers nexus discovered
I take offense to that.

>> No.72154485

>>72153803
using the stock cooler is fucking retarded

>> No.72154556

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Here is my build, tell me what can be improved.
The GPU, SSD and HDD I already have and want to use.
The PSUalot better then needed because down the line I want to upgrade my GPU

>> No.72154594

>>72153576
>>72154087
How mentally deficient / in denial do you have to be to care about a misplaced spacer?

>> No.72154607

>>72154485
AMD stock coolers aren't top shelf but they're still actually good.

>> No.72155272

Either my CPU or GPU died.
I was using an i5 4690k with 16GB of RAM and I thought I could just upgrade instead of buying used shit now that DDR4 is cheaper.
I have a 970 as well but I don't care so much about video games right now (might chance once I have a fucking job again).
Is the 2600X a safe bet? Right now I do web development basically.

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