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/mkg/ - Game Boy Edition

>Buyer's template:
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>Group Buys
>Keyboard wiki
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous Thread >>72106808

>> No.72136213

Dactyl Manuform anons, what did you wish you knew before building yours? What would you do differently the second time? I am finally going to make my own soon.
Have you printed it with high quality resin - or is it a different 3D printing material that you can achieve the highest quality prints with nowadays? I'm out of touch with the 3D printing stuff.
Also, are retooled MX blacks still the best medium-heavy linear switch you can get nowadays?

>> No.72136240
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Alice is a fucking trash keyboard with the all time worst set of compromises to ergonomics.

While the Alice splits, it fails to address the row stagger problem (either by getting rid of it like Ergodoxes or reversing it on the left hand like the Topre ergo board) and fails to introduce any significant columnular stagger.

I can forgive boards like the standard Microsoft ergo boards for this because they keep everything in place such that it could be used by someone expecting their computer to be used by several people without causing any interruption to anyone's muscle memory. But the Alice changes enough of the thumb use to spoil any general public usability gains. What's left is a half measure of a committment that goes far enough to make turning back difficult but not far enough to do any real good.

Pic related is what the Alice should have been. Keeps the standard keyset compatibility goals of the Alice and the one piece design, but while also providing meaningful ergonomic gains.

tl;dr, the Alice is shit and you should feel bad for starting a thread with it.

>> No.72136483

Please could you stop posting keyboards like that?
I'm poor.

>> No.72136692
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do you have a printer?
I know there are pretty cheap printing services on aliexpress that do SLA, which is probably preferable (haven't used any myself)
ordered my first from 3dhubs (cost me €50 for the 5x6), a bit pricey imo for FDM (which is considered inferior to SLA)

printed my second one myself on my ender 3, 0.1mm layer height (which took 30 hours per side)
it came out ok after a bit of sanding, priming and spray painting
someone here mentioned tree supports in cura (which I didn't use), definitely would recommend that if you're printing it yourself

also there's a fair amount of different versions, like the low profile one in my pic, redox manuform, regular one with more buttons etc. (you can find most of them on thingiverse if you search for 'dactyl manuform')
though I'd say the standard dactyl manuform 5x6 is pretty good, pretty much what I'd recommend to anyone
it's made for RJ-9 connectors/cables, which take like a month to ship from aliexpress, so yeah keep that in mind
on the other hand, even TRRS connectors take a month to ship

also gateron black > mx black
also print a switch opener and lube your switches

>> No.72137222
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How accurate is this?

>> No.72137286

Im looking for a new keyboard. I was using the k120 until it broke and dug out the old dinovo edge and it has unacceptable connection issues.
I like a quiet key and do not want tactical feed back other than bottoming out like you do with any other keyboard.
I could go for Bluetooth or wired.
price range sub $150.
I spent $300 on this thing and its a piece of shit. amazing when it does work, but its a piece of shit all other times. random disconnects, whatever key combination that was pressed when it disconnects will be held. It ctrl+w'd 100 tabs on me yesterday.

>> No.72137314

it's missing a tiny detail telling you that kailh/gateron>cherry

>> No.72137334

pretty much spot on

>> No.72137354

browns do supposedly feel better after retooling,
they're still barely tactile tho, so most people will still be disappointed
wait, how did you manage to spend 300$ on a consumer-grade keyboard?

>> No.72137359

its a scissor membrane keyboard with an actuation force of about 70g if these scales are a reliable way of measuring.
I like that pressure.

>> No.72137395

a leopold with mx blacks?

>> No.72137428

it was high end at the time. first rechargeable wireless keyboard on the market, bluetooth was hot shit at the time and worked with my dumbphone (before smartphones were common), I was young, tired of shit, had 0 fucks, wanted something that wasn't garbage, and fell for the "you get what you pay for" meme.
At the time I was happy with it, but a year later the connection issues started. I warrantied it twice and they all did this. I thought it was interference from something else.

>> No.72137437

>browns feel like reds with dirt in them
Reds feel like reds with dirt in them.

>> No.72137491

Im looking into them now, thanks.
Is this brand considered good or what tier is it?

>> No.72137497


>> No.72137504

GreenChad here

>> No.72137597

one day you will look back at this and realize how silly you were

>> No.72137666

It's already been proven Kailh switches are exactly the same as Cherry, except made with cheaper materials. You are a colossal idiot.

>> No.72137714

the devil does indeed hide in plain sight

>> No.72137869

Gateron browns are good and anyone that says otherwise can suck my dick.

>> No.72137946

t. post-purchase rationalization

>> No.72138064

Are there any "ergonomic keyboards" that split the left/right sides up but also have redundant keys that can be used on either side? For example, having the middle keys like B, G, H, T, and Y all duplicated so they're on both the left portion and the right portion.

>> No.72138168

All the technical details come from the original image. Everything that was shopped later is just cringeworthy meme-spouting. I'd rather err on the side of cautious and disregard the recommendations.

>> No.72138176

repost >>72134911

>> No.72138265

it's considered the best widely available prebuilt keyboard brand with cherry switches

>> No.72138459

usually people use caps lock and WASD to do the arrows and the home keys are all over the place.

If you want something similar to that style I would recommend the vortex vibe.

>> No.72138474

Holy shit it is the switch antichrist

>> No.72138487


>> No.72138560

sure, it's much more common than gray, but still much less available than the light switches

>> No.72138631

Don't know which keyboards you are getting from, but considering the options, you can get from clear switches on mechanicalkeyboards.com, it is not rare at all.

>> No.72138641

Who the fuck buys cherry anymore? Just get those box switches and never look back.

>> No.72138704

just try getting it in europe, shit is out of stock everywhere

>> No.72138907

Box Navies are great, I think a lot of people have reservations against the click even if the click feels good.

>> No.72138932

Dad came for a visit and thought my "fancy clicky keyboards" were cool and wants one for his birthday. He's a pretty well-off businessman so he wants something nice and not gaymery. I was thinking a Leopold, but I've never had anymore fancier than a ducky. Leopold is pretty nice, right?

>> No.72139016

>Leopold is pretty nice, right?
yeah, if there was a prebuilt cherry board tier list, Leopold would be S to Ducky's A
actually, is there a list like that? if not, we should totally make one

>> No.72139118

i'll make the logo

>> No.72139212

WASD is so fucking trash for arrows. Use ESDF so your fingers don't have to leave home row positioning.

>> No.72139283

Use whatever suits you, WASD isn't that detrimental. :)

>> No.72139311

I'll make a shitty website.

>> No.72139651

Looking for a mechanical keyboard with the following features:
>100% form factor
>USB passthrough
>volume/media keys
>backlit keys (doesn't necessarily have to be RGB)

Are there any keyboards that offer these features for a lower price than the Corsair K70 (£110)? I'm in the UK so a lot of keyboards that are cheap for Americans are usually much more expensive over here.

>> No.72139771
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Useless news: got a Filco for work today with MX pinks - had no idea what to expect never having tried linear, let alone silent switches before. Super pleasantly suprised.

>> No.72140206

Yeah, get one of those nice beige looking leopolds

>> No.72140427

I was just thinking about making something like mouse with small trackball in the middle and two kailh chocs as mouse buttons.
I don't have any drawings of it (I don't have my laptop here), but it would have shape like boomerang or somethig like that.
What do you think about that?

>> No.72141045

I have no idea what you're saying but I do have a touchpad in between my dactyl manuform and it's 10/10

>> No.72141065
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>> No.72141167
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I want to you this thing for mouse movement and two switches as left and right mouse buttons
It would be just a weird mouse, not keyboard xd

>> No.72141295

anyone know how to add cyrillic layer to qmk firmware (the doc is vague)

>> No.72141360

Ordered a Topre clone from NiZ the other day, how bad did I fuck up/what am I in for /mkg/?

>> No.72141416

have you ever made a tacticool keyboard?

>> No.72141462

I think that only option is to switch to russian layout on your computer

>> No.72141498

Thanks for the detailed response.
>do you have a printer?
No, but I have access to high quality printers through my university, basically for free.
>it's made for RJ-9 connectors
I was thinking of going mini XLR, thoughts?
>gateron black > mx black
Are you sure about this? I trust Germans more.
Also, that looks light as fuck. Did you put any weights in it to keep it from sliding around?

>> No.72141510


>> No.72141557

i have a new tada i have no use for
where can i sell it (eu)

>> No.72141642

What switches?

>> No.72141677


>> No.72141757

I could swear my blues feel much my tactile when I can hear the click than when i have my headphones on, anyone else feel like this?

>> No.72141770

*much more tactile

>> No.72142007

>browns do supposedly feel better after retooling,

I have retooled browns here, feels alright.

>> No.72142080

How hard would it be to change what keycodes a keyboard is sending, and maybe add a fn layer on keys that don't have one? Specifically I'm talking about the Cherry g84-4100.
I don't want to do it on the on the computer side of things, because I want it to work regardless of OS, and I know that Windows doesn't allow for remapping of certain keys.

>> No.72142263
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Noob here, how does this compare to something like pic related?

>> No.72142378

Yeah. Use 2 USB keyboards.

>> No.72142507

You could get a split keyboard that has additional programmable keys (such as the ErgoDox EZ) and program the keys in the middle to duplicate the keys on the other half.

>> No.72142528

How much are you selling it for

>> No.72142534
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SLA would give you the best result (visually)
though FDM printers are fine too at 0.1mm with some more sanding and good priming
if you really don't care about the layer lines showing you could print at 0.2mm layer height, which will print much faster
the one in my pic is at 0.2mm layer height on an FDM printer for example (no sanding, only primed and spray painted)

you can pretty much use any cable/connector with 3 or more pins (for GND, VCC, and 3 on the pro micro)
only 'issue' is the cutout, which you can adjust in the clojure design file or with a drill/dremel and some hot glue

I haven't used mx blacks in a while but the gateron blacks (lubed) are very smooth, a lot of people have been preferring them over the cherry switches
also they'll run you under $20 to fill the board with

and yes it's very light (165g per side) but I don't really notice it, the rubber bumpers keep it from sliding and the constrution feel sollid enough (to me)

also I'd recommend getting all the wiring stuff like diodes, dupont jumper wires, pro micros, solid core electrical wire, cable crimper etc. off aliexpress
it'll total you $20 max (does take a month or more to get delivered though)
you can get it semi-locally, but you'll have to pay a 500% markup

I have that keyboard as well!
you'd have to be able to flash different firmware to change the FN key position (which is not possible from what I know)
if you can somehow put in a different controller (QMK compatible) then you'd be good to go
should be TOO hard technically speaking

>> No.72142565

also forgot to resize the picture

>> No.72142690

The closest MX swithches to membranes are probably browns, although they're still very different. Firstly. tactile mechanical switches have a little bit of travel distance before you hit the bump that gives some resistance. With membranes and rubber domes you have a relatively high initial resistance as soon as you try to apply any pressure to the key. Secondly, once you apply enough pressure on a membrane keyboard you usually end up bottoming out. With mechanical switches you can hit the actuation point without bottoming out (although it's more difficult to do this with browns since they are quite light). And last but not least, the tactile feedback that mechanical switches give is a lot sharper. This is particularly true with the clears, greys and clicky switches but even the browns (which are probably the "mushiest" switches) feel a bit sharper than membranes.

>> No.72142705

>tfw have 3 different keycap sets on my 1 keyboard

>> No.72142732

Please stop using this term incorrectly. The sensing mechanism has barely anything to do with the key feel and membrane does not necessarily imply the use of rubber. Model M's are membrane keyboards and there are keyboards which use rubber AND a PCB instead of a membrane.

>> No.72142799

Why would flashing a different firmware be impossible? Is the ROM chip not rewritable or just not accessible?

>> No.72142844

Whites and greens have the same springs so I have no idea where they got those numbers from

>> No.72142916

do you know what ROM stands for? you'd have to take out the ship and hard code it

>> No.72142925


>> No.72142943

EPROM and EEPROM exist? How do you think the /tpg/ guys libreboot their x200?

>> No.72143013

we're talking about a keyboard made in the 80s that still hasn't been updated, and not a thinkpad. seriously it's got 2kro when even back then some cherry keyboards had nkro

>> No.72143070

With a SOIC8 clip and serial programmer.

..After the entire controller's been reverse engineered and the new firmware's been tested on it.

>> No.72143617

ISO layout? and how much?

>> No.72143858

My brother gave me his numpad and I was wondering what's a good hot-swappable TKL board. The Glorious looks like the least expensive without any keycaps but are there any Chinese ones that are good?

>> No.72143874

yeah there's a chinese clone on aliexpress. I forget what it was called, but it looks just as gay

>> No.72143881

Yeah, I don't really like the design of the base but the Massdrop ones are expensive.

>> No.72143912

70 set of Holy pandas are sold out on massdrop. Don't want to drop $130 on some new switches.
Anyone have experience with them?
Ordered browns but I was told the holy pandas are much better

>> No.72143938

just go on aliexpress and search for hotswap keyboards
this looks okay

>> No.72144029

Will do, thanks.

>> No.72144079
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Preparing to build a gergo, and I have no idea what I'm doing, haven't soldered in tens of years.

Am I meant to align the diodes across the two metal pads like shown in the picture? What do the oval pads vs square pads mean? How do I know if I've orientated the diode for the correct polarity? It says that once I've soldered on this side, I flip over and finish on the other, but I don't see any matching contacts on the other side.

Apologies for retarded questions

>> No.72144135
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Don't have them in a board yet, but they do feel pretty nice in hand. If you don't care about them being Real Holy Pandas™ then it might be cheaper and easier to get one of the YOK clones and slap halo stems in them.

>> No.72144571

So what do you think of your new Keychron K2, anons?

>> No.72144724
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where would you even start with that?
seems to me it would be easier to just take off the controller and put in a teensy, flash QMK on it

>> No.72145671


This Magicforce "smart2" or 68 v2 hits a lot of the requirements I've been looking for (60-75%, white case, white LEDs, Bluetooth 4.0, USB-C)

Can't find any good reviews of it though, and I'm not entirely confident that it won't be garbage. Does /g/ have any insight into this? I don't have a lot of familiarity with buying from Chinese vendors.

>> No.72145702

magicforce is probably the most popular of the cheap chink brands due to their reliability in build quality. even linus sebastian (creator of linux) endorsed them.

>> No.72145911

I'm going to buy a reproduction Model M Kishsaver you can't stop me

>> No.72145919

Excuse me Model F

>> No.72145931

Does anyone know how the Razer green switches compare to everything else? I need to upgrade to a full size but the only mechanical i've ever had is this small ass black widow. I've heard greens are most like blues for comparison but I figure I'd trust /g/ more than shill youtubers

>> No.72145962

like 90 eur i guess

ansi, it's white

>> No.72146048

Learning chorded Colemak on the Georgi's going well. Already probably faster than me two fingering QWERTY, and for sure way fuckin faster than me trying to touch type QWERTY.

Not happy with my speed enough to take it anywhere just yet, but it's actually getting there decently fast. I'm usually hovering around 80wpm on my Dox, with having to correct numerous spelling errors because I'm retarded.

I can't yet say for sure if moving middle row letters to chords is great (in terms of low travel if you don't need the smolness) or if enough keys for each letter is mostly better, but I can say chording in general is absolutely gamechanging. I wish it was easier to set shit on my Dox to chords in some way tightly integrated with QMK, because it's just so damn powerful.

Side note: I'm only even writing this update for more practice typing. I don't even care about the update myself. But I just gotta type on this thing.

>> No.72146069

learn colemakDH

>> No.72146076

They are like blues but to be they seem lighter both in feel and sound.

>> No.72146088

Fuckin why? I've already known Colemak for about 7 years and having no row stagger mostly eliminates the problems Colemak-DH seeks to address anyway.

I'm just learning the chording layout on the Georgi where there is no middle row, so you enter the letter "A", for example, by hitting "Q" and "Z" together.

>> No.72146106


>buy nice key caps from some guy in China with a website
>pick up envelope from package room
>ride elevator up to apartment
>see box of zip plastic bags after I open door
>should I?
>meh, OK, I should
>zip padded envelope of key caps into bag
>place on coffee table on top of other things
>30 minutes later
>bag slips
>look over at it
>notice bed bug inside bag

I got into the plastic bag meme when buying used books, good thing I didn't give in to my brief hesitation when bringing back a package from China!

>> No.72146128

Also, to elaborate, I have never at any point in my life known how to touch type in QWERTY, learned on Colemak on standardish layout and moved to my first Dox not long after. I'm comparing the Georgi to my two finger typing on QWERTY since my primary goal is something pocket sized to not need to use other people's qwerty boards (or go around downloading PKL for Colemak) anymore. My "touch typing" on QWERTY is a like two words a minute crawl of spending several seconds thinking of each letter.

>> No.72146141

what happened next?

>> No.72146449

>even linus sebastian (creator of linux) endorsed them
oh shit! guess i gotta get one

>> No.72146478
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Anon that bought a Terminal model M here.

This thing is going to need a bolt mod. Ordered all the parts to do that and a teensy board for soarers converter. Wish me luck I don't completely fuck this thing up the bolt mod is making me nervous.

>> No.72147158

Well, if you fuck up something you can always send it to Unicomp for a repair. They're pretty fast with those.

>> No.72147247

Do any of you us a Model M as main keyboard?
I'd like to get one but I'm not sure if trading off function keys and reduced form factor (for comfort mostly, I lik ehaving my hands centered to the monitor/chair while typing) would be worth it.

>> No.72147280

Sure. They're strong boards with a very tactile clicky switch and some of the best most thick key caps around, that being said they do have some drawbacks like the sensing mechanism, the big footprint, and they take some time to get used to for people who have never used one before, people who are accustomed to lighter clickies like MX Blues might find them wearisome to use as the weighting is higher.

Honestly if you're int he US just purchase a Unicomp Ultra Classic to test one out - you can always return it if you're not a fan.

>> No.72147298
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I would get an Unicomp since I'd rather something new, but I'm in EU, not in one of the resellers country, so that would be around 150 bucks. I could score a square/grey label model M for around 80 here.

As for the weighting, I don't think it would be a problem, I learned to type in pic related and I actually liked it.

>> No.72147326

Yeah, for a European hunting around would be the more financially viable option, then. You could probably ask around on Deskauthority to see if anyone is willing to sell. Don't pay too much for a blue label M, though - those are some of the last M's made and therefore the "cheapest" insofar as the quality is concerned. I would only pay 80 if I knew the condition was good, but that's just me personally.

>> No.72147340

Thanks for the input. That's the plan, after reading these threads I decided to avoid blue label if possible.
I'm just broke right now but probably I'll get one soon.

>> No.72147387

Sure. I only warn people because so many get sucked into the M's status as a legendary keyboard and pay out of the nose for one. 6 or 7 years ago they would go for dirt cheap on Ebay and that's the way it should have stayed. They're great keyboards, but if you're getting a really old one you're likely going to have to put in some maintenance work on it. The melted plastic rivets tend to fail through the years which is why bolt modding is so common.

>> No.72147408

Yeah but they're gonna use unicomp parts. I understand that they are basically the same parts but you can't get a barrel plate from them like this. All their barrel plates have the dranage channels that Lexmark introduced and I donct even know if that will fit in my keyboard.

Worst case I buy an unserviceable M from eBay and use it as parts I think

>> No.72148160

razer greens are slightly lighter mx blues, I've heard they're less tactile as well, though I'm not sure if that's true
go for blues or kaihl box whites if you want something similar

>> No.72148504

Razer Green feels better than Cherry Blue IMO. Definitely lighter, but still more than enough tactile feedback for a good typing experience.

>> No.72148789
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150~ euro (can probably go abit higher, but i really need to like it)
>Location (continent at least)
Southeast Europe
>Preferred switch type
cherry mx blue
>Form factor
full size
like rgb lights? not nessecery, i dont care for the gamer aesthetics
>Previous/current keyboards
cheap garbage
>Additional info
im looking for something with exposed keys like left keyboard on pic related

>> No.72148838

Why do so many of the infographics, pastebins, and posts in this thread shit on "gaming" brand keyboards for the price when you guys drop $400+ on keyboards that don't actually offer anything new besides appearance?
What's more, the OP pastebin says these brands use chink switches rather than cherry, but you guys go out of your way to buy kailh and other non cherry switches.

I understand thinking they're ugly (I do too), but I don't really see how the price has anything to do with it being a bad purchase.

>> No.72148856

Gaming keyboards are shit.
400$ keyboards aren't, but they are overpriced to hell and back and only targeted to massive autists.

>> No.72148871

>Gaming keyboards are shit.
Can you expand a little on why they're shit besides how they look?

>> No.72148934

Most of them have ABS keycaps with ugly as fuck fonts, have retarded switch choices sometimes and they are overpriced every single time.

>> No.72148950

they're ugly, they use shitty thin keycaps, have mediocre build quality and aren't even that cheap if we're talking major brands

you can get better keyboards for cheaper on aliexpress, you can get much better keyboards at a similar price from Ducky, Lepold, Vortex, Varmilo or many other specialized mech keyboard brands

>> No.72149166
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Help me anon
I want something like the Cooler Master SK621
>low profile
>75% / RACE 3 format
>does not care about rgb

what do

pic related

>> No.72149167

kailh and most chink switches are superior to cherry

>> No.72149559


>> No.72150042

>don't actually offer anything new besides appearance
Have you ever typed on a nice keyboard or just seen pictures of them?

>> No.72150100
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Gergo, has some extra inner buttons but not on the top row.

You don't. That's what the gBallin used and it's total ass. Get a split and throw a CST in the middle, add mousekeys to taste.

Check out quantum/keymaps for a bunch of ruskie defines that should do the trick.

You made a good choice anon.

Pic related. There's also one with actual picantilly rails or w/e.

Get something that supports QMK and get hackin' bubs.

Line to the square pad! There's a few images floating around of assembled builds, by other side I meant the other PCB. Also note: The MCU needs the dot to the left (lined up with the marking). Don't fuck that up.

You're fucking awesome anon, slap the orings on there!

If you're going to avoid gaming shit, avoid reddit tier meme shit as well. Kits son, they're cheap ass. A gergo build with Gaterons and blanks is under 100USD.

Kailh Choc or gtfo

>> No.72150141

>Will never ever get that feeling of typing on tactiles on a gasket mount alu keeb

>> No.72150198
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Used for 10 years
I will probably use it for 10 years

>> No.72150257

>Get something that supports QMK and get hackin' bubs.
I have an old Arduino board. It's not an official one. But it's compatible with the Duemillanove. Has an ATmega 328. Would that work?

>> No.72150475

timestamp pls>>72150198
>reverse image search
>0 results

>> No.72150606

I don't know what this is but FUCKING CLEAN IT ALREADY JESUS CHRIST

>> No.72150618

Yeah that can do V-USB, not sure on the specific but that should give you a starting point. I'd just grab a promicro desu.

You'll reverse eng the matrix and implement it as a handwire, check out the handwiring guide and probe around your board with a multi meter to figure out the matrix configuration.

>> No.72150668


If anyone is interested.

>> No.72151092

Do costar stabilizers use the same mount as plate mounted cherry stabilizers or different?

>> No.72151101


>> No.72151131

What is different about them? I saw somewhere else that both use the same mount. I am looking at them and both look pretty similar but sizes might be different

>> No.72151171
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this shows it, red dotted is the footprint for costar stabilisers while dotted blue is cherry plate

>> No.72151211

Thank you for your help kind anon. I am looking at this plate: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32736623172.html?shortkey=Jr2MvUnq&addresstype=600

The title says costar but in the picture they look like the cherry mounts. What do you think? Should I find a different one or would this plate support plate mounted cherry stabs.

>> No.72151227

It should support plate mounted cherry, or you could even use PCB-mount cherry if the PCB you're using supports them (which are superior IMO if you buy the screw-in version)

>> No.72151243

Ok thanks for your help. I can't use pcb mount because I am planning a hand-wired keyboard which is why i was looking at plate mounted stabs..

>> No.72151542

I'm not sure if that's actually your image, but if it is would it be too much to ask to record yourself cleaning those caps? I'm a weird fuck and watching shit like this being cleaned satisfies me more than anything.

>> No.72151911

Anyone have a Leopold topre keyboard

>> No.72152113

/g/ in one image

>> No.72152318
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Should I get this thing?
Specifically the clicky version.


>> No.72152376

Dots, Voyage, Peaches n Cream, Vaporwave or 8008?

>> No.72152517

>thin ABS keycaps
>non-standard bottom row
why do they keep doing this

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I wanna make a sculpted Georgi to use at home while my flat Georgi is pocket board.

Test print of GiGi with the stupid yellow filament that's great for my DMOTE accent caps and nothing else so it's perfect test print fodder. But I'm actually kinda liking it in yellow with how different the whole thing is in the first place.

>> No.72153190

Have you tried cura's tree supports? They're less of a pain in the ass to remove from my experience.

>> No.72153224

I have, but they don't generate much differently with the orientation I have to print in to fit on my MonoMini in a weird almost but not totally upright angle. Just too much full surface area coverage needed for the trees to kick in much.

>> No.72153267

Ah, makes sense.

>> No.72153287

Looking good anon

>> No.72153288

You're probably right, but nobody really gives a shit about the ergonomics of that keyboard. They like it because it is a meme and it looks good and has a good build quality and has a brand name and, most importantly, because it is very expensive.

>> No.72154914
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>There's a few images floating around of assembled builds
OK, so I found an image which helps a lot, now I get how to align them.
>by other side I meant the other PCB
>Also note: The MCU needs the dot to the left (lined up with the marking). Don't fuck that up.
Not sure exactly what you mean by this.

So do I not need to worry about polarity? I don't see any markings on the diode to know which way they should be round.

Oh, and some of the images on your CDN seem to be timing out for me - For example, https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HTQG2is.jpg

thanks anon

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Diodes have a polarity, usually the side with a black mark should be towards the square pad. But those are not like the smd diodes I usually use

>> No.72155214

I can't really get a good photo, but they appear to be solid black, no lines

>> No.72155631


I threw away the keys, I ain't openin' that bag.

9 months later and I haven't seen a bed bug in the apartment so I think I saved myself a ton of trouble with that plastic bag.

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any idea where i can find caps like these?

might pick up a new anne and i'm looking for 60% inspo

>> No.72155694

typewriter vs keyboard have nothing in common so the fact that you learned that old shit first will make it even harder to type on a regular keyboard.

>> No.72155729

what if you opened it under water?

>> No.72155789

here you go

>> No.72155804

thank you familia

>> No.72155806

he means that typewriters are heavy as fuck, so he won't have a problem with the weight of a model M

>> No.72156151

>he means
no you idiot, the phrase refers to the force you have to apply to push the key down if not it doesn't make sense to even mention it, no one types with his keyboards on top of their head.

>> No.72156646

why are there no good, non million-dollar, tkls with gat blacks or yellows?

>> No.72156892

>Line to the square pad!
Ah, now I see this is referring to the polarity. I can barely see the line with the naked eye..
So the side with the line points to the square pad, gotcha.

>> No.72156972

Don't know. I'll just forward this to all the keyboard manufacturers I know personally...

>> No.72156988

>pokemon yellow
>gray cartridge

get the fuck out zoomer

>> No.72157007

There's a small line, it's noted in the build guide. Mine just may have worn off. Line to the square!

For the MCU, the do should be facing Left. Look at the corners of the silkscreen, see how 3 are the same and one has a leg? That's pin 1. For the MCP, dot to the top. (Look for the circle)

>> No.72157423

Romer-G sucks.
Non-standard bottom row.
The G513 is pretty as fuck yeah and the wristrest is possibly the best one ever made but...
If you want a shiny gaymer brand get the HyperX ones, at least they're standard bottom row and you can buy a cheap PBT set for it.

>> No.72157945

this but unironically
its like gaterons disappeared from the face of the earth and all thats left are cherry memes

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dude wtf

>> No.72158040

I think that the ASUS keyboard is good High durability performance ( Proven in actual battle
I think the next keyboard also buy ASUS

>> No.72158069

clean your shit jesus fuck there's a reason people don't smoke in front of their computers

>> No.72158933

This is going to be a silly question, but what keyboard angle does everyone use to type? I find that a higher angle (about 30 degrees) works better for me than flatter angles.

>> No.72158968

yay or nay for a 96 key keyboard? THinking of ordering from alie soon...

>> No.72159004

anything that is tented ergonomically is good

>> No.72159107

P-please I'm begging you here, record yourself running a cotton bud between the rows or something

>> No.72159154

Fucking subhuman gook. Why am I not surprised.

>> No.72159379

>non-standard bottom row
>muh useless right win key

>> No.72159549
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pls bro East Asian shit

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>> No.72159881

what's that split thing for?

>> No.72159890

Why do you not clean your shit?

>> No.72159900

Typing more faggier

>> No.72159904

For typing on presumably.

>> No.72159915

I'll downvote you on Reddit if you don't have GMK keycaps!

>> No.72159923

what they said
It has box navy and one box yellow for space key

>> No.72160297

Anyone else ever try spring swapping MX Clears? I just gave it a go with a Brown spring because I disliked how the spring tries to prevent you from bottoming out, and it's so much more tactile on the upstroke than the downstroke. It's got the ol' "scratchy reds" thing still going on the way down, but then you get all the tactility you would have wanted before interrupting the return force. It's FUCKED.

>> No.72160311

yeah it's called ergo clears and they're the most perfect switch. they're so perfect that reddit has an unhealthy obsession of improving them to the point where they'd even spend $15 for a switch.

>> No.72160323
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The tactility is the same either way. Changing the spring doesn't affect how tactile a switch is.

>> No.72160363

reminder that it's your responsibility to make fake accounts on reddit and downvote all the 60% or less boards

>> No.72160717
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would you look at that?

>> No.72160803

I ordered mine a week ago. I hardly know anything about the project but I couldn't pass up a $400 F62. That zinc...

>> No.72160810

Aren't the repro kishsavers milled aluminum instead of cast zinc? Or am I just remembering wrong?

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>> No.72160847

>fake pokemon yellow
Actually sad

>> No.72160849

I bet changing the spring only makes the wobbly stem tactility feel more pronounced because reducing the overall force required makes the tactile peak a greater proportion of it.

>> No.72160857

anon, don't ruin the patina. That is where all the value is at

>> No.72160870
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Looks like both

>> No.72160873

>reducing the overall force required makes the tactile peak a greater proportion of it
That's likely it to be honest. Still it's rather silly to hear people say that changing the spring changes tactility when that isn't happening in absolute terms.

>> No.72160880

Neat. The zinc cases more than doubling the weight of the board is pretty hilarious.

>> No.72160888

This render hurts my autism.
the pokemon yellow cartridge isn't even yellow and the text on the gameboy is fuckhuge. dont even get me started on the black volume and power buttons.

>> No.72161010

I mean, it's fucking cast zinc. And way bigger than necessary (outside of looks and historical accuracy) to boot. What did you expect? Probably quintuple the weight of most boards.

>> No.72161440
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I was looking at the GX blue clicky version, actually. Aren't those basically just imitation Cherry MX blues?

>> No.72161627
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Are black switches too heavy? Do they cause fatigue?
I'm OK typing with blues. I have a switch tester with a black switch on it which feels OK, but it's hard to imagine how typing on a whole board of them for hours would feel.

>> No.72161769

It depends, some people do find them tiring while others don't.

>> No.72161861


Yes, my current main keyboard is a Leopold Fc660c and I personally think it's really nice, probably one of the best stock boards you can get

>> No.72161924

yes actually, they're probably ok
it seems pretty nice honestly, I just wish they didn't go full retard with the keycaps for once

>> No.72162138

why are you switching from blues to blacks?

>> No.72162459

Interested on this as well.
I want to get my brother a keyboard, mostly for gaming, and I'm doubting between blacks and reds.

>> No.72162797

i'd say no because they're linear

>> No.72162837

something that feels and sounds like topre but isn't topre?

>> No.72162877

Fake topres

>> No.72162967


>Preferred switch type
I've had blue and love the feel but wouldn't mind it being quieter so I think I'll try brown
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
Had the CM Storm QuickFire Rapid with blue cherry mx switches for the last 7 years. Spilt soda on it last night and now it's pressing multiple keys at once
It served me well, wouldnt mind it being quieter like I said though so I want to try browns

>> No.72163012

Ok fellas, what's a good QMK keyboard that supports ISO? Eurofag here, I need that small Enter and additional <>| key.

Don't care about price, just list your favorites.

>> No.72163563


>> No.72163583

>I've had blue and love the feel but wouldn't mind it being quieter so I think I'll try brown
browns don't feel very much like blues, their tactility is very weak and more of a speedbump than a crisp click - if you're expecting more silent blues, you'll be disappointed

just get a leopold with blues, it has thicker keycaps and a muffling pad, so it should be at least a little bit more quiet

>> No.72164247

Ok, that's exactly what I was expecting so I will your route instead. Thanks

>> No.72165184

I really want a split space keyboard where I can program the left space bar to be a backspace. There seems to be nothing available for this desire. I want, like, the old "right touch" split spaced NMB keyboards. I have one but since it's vintage it takes three connectors to work and it doesn't have any key rollover.

>> No.72165924

>Preferred switch type
Cherry mx Clear
>Form factor
dont care
>Previous/current keyboards
£10 keyboard from a school

Kinda want the Vortex Race 3 75% because it has clears but I can't make my mind up

>> No.72166056

After getting a switch tester, I discovered I prefer linear switches. I didn't expect it myself but what I like is red or black switches with o-rings.
In addition to the feel, stiffer switches seem to make me type better. I make noticeably fewer mistakes with blues compared to browns. I just can't predict whether I'll wear my hands out faster with black switches.

>> No.72166095

You're the only idiot here.
>the fact that you learned that old shit first will make it even harder to type on a regular keyboard.

And probably never used a typewriter in your life.

>> No.72166216
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>Are black switches too heavy?
No. They're rated at 60g actuation.
Cherry MX Linear Greys are rated at 80g.
Or, Kailh China Style Box Ancient Greys are rated at 95g. That would be too heavy.

>> No.72166294

noble yellow switches seem like they would be ideal for me (more tactile alternative to blues), but they're so new at this point there isn't much info on them online

>> No.72166386

Good point. Thanks.

>> No.72166538

They're a little pricey too. Have you tried Kailh Box Navy's? Or Kailh Speed Navy's?

>> No.72166643

>Kailh Box Navy's
I though these were much heavier?

>> No.72166792
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For me its BTC dome with slider

>> No.72166997

Looks good, thanks

>> No.72167545

Can you guys recommend a person/site who can modify a commercially produced keyboard to have USB port/detachable cord?

>> No.72167704

How are Outemu switches?

I know they're chink clones but how do they compare

>> No.72167740

Looking for a compact keyboard with a large enter key. Britbong layout.

>> No.72167958


They just work, they're not the best feeling but they just work as good as the rest

>> No.72168023

Compared to blues, definitely stiffer. Gateron Yellow's supposedly closer to Blue weighting, and Gateron Black is slightly lighter than Cherry Black. You could also change springs, if you prefer Cherry housings/stems to Gateron's.

>> No.72168076

Get Gat yellows if you're worried that blacks may be too stiff.

>> No.72168079

I used Pale Blues (same spring as Navy) coming from MX Blue, and they were somehow not too heavy. Most of the stiffness kicks in between actuation and bottom-out.

>> No.72168190

nightmare fuel, I need to clean my keyboard now.

>> No.72168234
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I see.

>> No.72168533

Hako Royal Trues

>> No.72168695

>>Kailh Box Navy's
>I though these were much heavier?

They're not that heavy, to me. Some places rate them at 60g, others 70g. To me they feel somewhere in between 60g and 70g.
Fortunately, there is another alternative thick click keyswitch, the Kailh Box Jades, which are as tactile feeling as the Navies, but are weighted at only 50g.

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I haven't tried linear switches.
My first mkb was a some cooler master with cherry MX blue. I absolutely hated it because of the noise and switched to a daskeyboard with mx brown.
After messing around with brown for a few years I didn't really like it for typing but it was alright for gaming so I have been looking for an upgrade.
I figured something stiffer with more pronounced tactile bump that is quite would work.
I liked the idea of having swap-able switches so I recently ordered a massdrop alt low profile with halo true switches because the bare bones one was sold out.
GMMK without a switch straight off their site might have been a better way to go, it is much cheaper.
I looked into zilent v2 switches and ordered 70 keys of the 78g version. 67g might have been a safer choice since I do not know my limits with regards to stiffness.
I should've bought a switch tester but I couldn't be fucked.

Apparently the stabilizers on the alt aren't good so I had to buy GMK stabs but the plate mounted version was hard to find so I had to settle with the PCB mount version that needs to be clipped.
The zilent switches are fairly quite, I only need to lube the springs since the 78g versions emits a creaking noise apparently.
For lube I bought some Krytox 106 for the springs.
I also bought some Krytox 205 grease for the stabilizers.
I got a fair amount of that lube from some Malaysian store online for cheap.
Only the springs need some lubrication to reduce the noise, the keys are quite enough so it is not worth coating the stems since I would loose some tactility.
Was having a look at holy pandas, they had a nice distinct popping sound to them but are not as tactile as the zelios/zilent v2.

What have I gotten myself into, I ended up spending more than was necessary, so impatient.
At this cost I could have just ordered a custom kit and assembled it myself.
Fuck me, I hope I don't regret it.

>> No.72168776

>Hako Royal Trues

Sorry, that should be Hako Trues.

>> No.72168902

There is also a Cherry MX Super Black that is rated at 150g.

>> No.72170552

Is Majestouch 2 Convertible decent?
looking for something wireless and TKL form factor. Switches don't matter, i will probably swap them anyway.
Are there any cheaper alternatives?

>> No.72170816

you guys are fucking pathetic, Alps switches are the only switches worth using

Alps greens are literally the best switch, prove me wrong- protip- you can't

>> No.72170828

Post your pingmaster then m8.

>> No.72171463
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it's been a while since I've checked this general. What did I miss in the past month or two?

>> No.72171478

Cherry mx browns are now regarded as the best.

>> No.72171512
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My unitek k-258 with white matias agrees but post yours first

>> No.72171716
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You know it.

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I may have said said this in the past, but you should probably remove a bit of material from the outer 1.5u thumbplate so the 1u key under it doesn't hit it. You can kinda see the spot in pic related.

>> No.72171994

nah Brother is the superior Japanese switch maker

>> No.72172181

i actually own one.

>> No.72172327

Nice. What keycaps are those?

>> No.72172368

Hoping to not be off topic but for spamming a rotation in a mmo would I be looking for a 100+ mechanic keyboard or should I look for something low range like one of those cooler master pseudo mechanic keyboard.

>> No.72172398

you can macro your wow rotation with a QMK keyboard and just press one single key

>> No.72172402


Definitely not too heavy, they feel very firm though, like it bounces back very quickly, it's a nice typing experience but not for everyone. I'd recommend trying some out before you build or buy a board with them

>> No.72172458

Should I bother lubing Topre? Is it worth my time?

>> No.72172482

Question. please answer b/c im a faggot and i cannot decide. Its a gift.

I cant choose between a Logitech G513 or a Steelseries Apex 7.
both will be linear quiet

help. which one is better.

>> No.72172487


>> No.72172524
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I have no idea if you guys do recommendations but I'll try anyway
$60-$70 USD
TKL > 100% (TKL HIGHLY preferred)
Cherry red, Kailh red, gateron black or yellow
I'm a bitch who can't touchtype and I often dim my display so I need a backlight. Anything but blue or pink (and maybe red, but I'll use it if I have to)
>keycap material
dont care
I think that's about it, got anything for me bros?

>> No.72172534

I assume this board is anti main stream mechanical keyboards

>> No.72172541

not at all

>> No.72172549


>> No.72172604


Definitely lube topre, it sounds and feels much nicer and the best part is you don't have to lube anything outside of the rails


>> No.72172617
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What comes with the gergo kit exactly? On the site it says that it "includes everything you need (except a TRRS and MiniUSB cable)", but does that also include switches and keycaps? What is needed to get it fully working?


>> No.72172619

I've seen some people say that it reduces their tactility, though. I'm just kind of nervous about fucking up this already expensive board I guess.

>> No.72172621

No, it doesn't come with switches or keycaps

>> No.72172632


You can start by lubing a few and see if you like it or even just applying a tiny amount of lube. For reference, I lubed a novatouch recently and noticed absolutely no reduction in tactility.

>> No.72172669

What is that split board?

>> No.72172676

Not him, but they're MT3 profile dev/titty caps.

>> No.72172677

Looks like a gergo

>> No.72172796

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
MX clear, gateron black
US standard
>Form factor
Full size, numpad is a must
>Previous/current keyboards
OG ducky shine

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>> No.72173174


>> No.72173321

How do gooks even use computers? How do you type with your over 9000 moonrune "alphabet"? Serious question

>> No.72173476
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Like anon said, QMK board and program everything into it.

Doesn't include caps and switches. But has everything you need to build it other then that.

>> No.72173487
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>tfw cleaning out the factory lube from hundreds of switches & relubing them afterwards

>> No.72173499

why cant i find good pbt caps that are nice looking and have nice legends that arent fucking shit or dull looking

>> No.72173506

because you're not looking for them on chink sites

>> No.72173515

the chink sites are garbage as well you dont know if you are going to get the right colors and/or the right profile

>> No.72173521
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What is this?

>> No.72173528


>> No.72173529

sounds like you've been buying $2 keycaps, maybe get the $40+ ones instead

>> No.72173538
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But look whose inside

>> No.72173542

looks like shit should just throw it out and buy a new one

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>> No.72173700

Apparently Japs can type in hiragana which is sort of like alphabet and choose one of the Kanji (basically Chinese symbols) from a list.
I don't know how the Chinese themselves do it though since they have a lot of symbols and to my knowledge they do not have anything resembling alphabet.

I searched briefly and stumbled into this
>In the Peoples’ Republic of China, most computer users type out their Chinese in transliteration, using the standard Roman alphabet keys on a QWERTY keyboard. To generate a character, you type out its sound according to the same spelling system—called Pinyin—that represents the name of China’s capital with the word “Beijing.” The computer automatically converts the Pinyin spelling to the correct Chinese characters on the screen.

>> No.72173712
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Pocket Board!
IMEs are pretty cool, I'm surprised were still typing charter by character to be honest

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>> No.72175004

>tfw typing on cherry mx
but really why is that

I remember you mentioning that. That pic is from before I cut it down. unfortunately, one of the leads on the right trrs jack snapped off so it'll be dead for a while

>> No.72175070

>one of the leads on the right trrs jack snapped off so it'll be dead for a while
Damn, that's a pain in the ass.

>> No.72175072

i'll grab a pic next time i'm home

i also have an AEKII and it's true, Alps master race

>> No.72175229

It's not all that complex, everyone learns pinyin along with the characters as it's perfectly consistent unlike English spelling. If you switch your input language to Chinese and type in a few letters you'll see a little popup of characters. There's also typing by stroke, which I guess you could call closer to an 'alphabet'

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>> No.72176193

ooof those are nice though. I still like original Alps better than matias nonetheless. What did you do with original switches?

>> No.72176351

For japanese there are 3 alphabets, hiragana, katakana, and kanji. Hiragana and katakana consist of ~46 characters not including modifications. Hiragana is used for words that are native japanese, and katakana for words that are foreign or if you want to change some emphasis.
Kanji is the "9000 moonrune" alphabet, and each kanji consists of x amount of hiragana, which make up the sound. So what they do is type the hiragana that make up the kanji, and press space to scroll through which kanji they may want, as there are no spaces in japanese.

>> No.72176420

How well do mechanical keyboards hold up to excessive amounts of dust? I want to replace a membrane keyboard, but it will be in an extremely dusty environment (enough to run your finger through it every 24 hours). Should I just stick to membrane or will they hold up fine?

>> No.72176567

Kailh Box switches are decently dust resistant (they're IP56) thanks to their stem design, but buildup every 24 hours still sounds pretty bad. You'd want to have a decently enclosing case and clean frequently


>> No.72176675

It may be a thing of looking at a hotswap PCB and trying for some extremely cheap switches that you can swap out if they start failing. Considering linear switches as they don't have as much going on inside of them might be a consideration too.

>> No.72176961

Has anyone made a switch that uses an active force component instead of being purely passive (well, with the exception of your fingers of-course)?
So instead of using a spring only to have some sort of means of dynamically increasing resistance with an actuator.
It might not be practical but it would be a cool concept to tinker around with since you can program the switches to use different force curves tailored to your specific comfort level.
Another funny thing for shits and giggles would be to have the keyboard physically actuate its own switches, not that it would be useful since you can do that purely in software without wearing the switches out.

>> No.72177429

not sure what you mean exactly, but there are some switches with adjustable points of articulation on the market

>> No.72177515

What about switches with a solenoid or similar mechanism that can be programmed to actuate with a certain force at a certain distance as the switch is depressed?

>> No.72178283

at least it has a lot of personality

>> No.72179197

There's this: http://anidees.com/product/prismatic-rgb-keyboard/

But the link I bookmarked on Amazon now shows a similar keyboard from Anidees with 104 keys.

>> No.72179590

I want a small bluetooth mechanical keyboard.
I really wanted a low profile, but I guess that won't be possible, at least no in my native language layout.

Keep it under 300€
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Blues or anything clicky
French iso azerty
>Form factor
TKL preferred, even better if low profile, has to be wireless (no dongle crap)
Yes please, doesn't have to be full rgb gaymen
>Previous/current keyboards
Filco majestouch 2 with blues

If you guys could also recommend a mouse, I'd be thankful. I currently have a G305 since April, I love it, but I need a dongleless one.

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Will the Wooting Two be on Amazon when more get made?

>> No.72179700

is there any reason to no have straight keys placement?

>> No.72179815

cherry doesn't make any low profile clicky switches yet, but kailh and gateron does, tho no one makes them in AZERTY
Hexgears X-1 is okay, but no ISO support

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>shitty rubber domes
ah yes

>> No.72180305

I've seen the Vortex Tab75 offered in ISO layouts, it's wireless and pretty much as low profile as you can get with standard cherry switches - no backlight tho, but like just turn your fucking lights on dude, it's not that hard

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>> No.72181555

where in the eu? i have a white tada for sale

>> No.72181590

can send you a new tada for £85

>> No.72181617

are you a bot

>> No.72182079

That site also has a fully assembled version that does include keyswitches and keycaps.

>> No.72182247


>no buckling spring

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