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Weeeeeeeew, laaaaads.
Gen1 Zen's minimal spec was 2333MHz, Zen+ upgraded it to 2933MHz (which already BTFOs Inturd with it's measly 2666MHz). Now we'll have a minimal spec of 3200MHz on Zen 2.

>> No.71093791

tfw 1600mhz ddr3

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>also confirmed at least up to 4400 MHz OC official support from AMD


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Told you, bitches, Zen 2 will definitely have RAM kits on sale that'll range in a 4200~4800MHz window, but nooo, you dumb fuckers decided to call me a fairy tale producer and a liar. Well, fucking SUCK ME now. And SUCK ME YOU WILL. HARD.

>> No.71093978

intelfag btfo

>> No.71093992

incel reps must literally be on suicide watch at this point

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>> No.71094368

>Zen 2's minimal natively supported RAM spec is 3200MHz
Except for Zen so far it meant the minimum speed you have to use for the CPU to be usable at all

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>> No.71094485

cope harder

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>> No.71094563

post proof

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>> No.71094579

>insults with zero counter-arguments to FACTS
Literally the definition of coping

>> No.71094589

2666MHz was technically native, but gen1 Zen was actually able to do 2333MHz also, so it was actual minimal spec for it. They've essentially set 2666MHz as official spec just to match Inturd's spec marketing-wise.

>> No.71094602

I'm running 1700X at 2666MHz easily with no problems, you cocksucking piece of dumb shit.

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>> No.71094656

>no problems
Of course if you can cope with the abysmal performance, you see no problems. AMDrones are used to it so no wonder there.

>> No.71094666

What's the problem with that? You realize Zen can run Hynix dies now (for over a year)? Literally cheaper than slower B-Dies.

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>at least up to 4400 MHz OC official support from AMD
>RAM kits on sale that'll range in a 4200~4800MHz window
RIP intel

>> No.71094681

>core 2

>> No.71094684

You are a literal retard, slit your wrists right this very instant, lamer.

Nothing, Mr. Satan. He's just an underage cocksucking debile of an Intbecillic fat troll retard.

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>> No.71094701

whatever, enjoy your pcie 4.0 and ddr4 lol

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>whatever, enjoy your pcie 4.0
We (the AMD GODS) sure will, schlomo.

>> No.71094731

Can you imagine Zen 2 with fuckhuge L3 cache and double the FP?

>> No.71094747

That's exactly what it'll be, though.

>> No.71094749

What am I looking at?

>> No.71094760

pcie 5.0 will be out within a few months bruh
buying 4.0 now is pants on head

>> No.71094777

Clean Core 2, and then Core 2 defiled by all the """""(((full mitigations)))""""" against MDS/RIDL/ZombieLoad/Fallout/Spectre/Meltdown. Just remember - it goes ALL THE WAY BACK to Bentium 4.

>> No.71094782

what use would you have for it, larper

>> No.71094795

have a (you)

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>> No.71094802

Why different benchmark then?
Shouldn't you run the same version of the benchmark on a machine with/without the microcode patch instead?

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>> No.71094821

Same use he has for PhysX, GayTracing, GaySync, AVX 512, and DefectX 12, kek.

>> No.71094822
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Why are (((they))) killing intel?
I thought intel was as kosher as it gets?

>> No.71094832

>buying into outdated tech
expected no better from amdturds

>> No.71094835

DX12 is genuinely a good thing though.

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>Why different benchmark then?
It doesn't matter, since both are past the point where CPU-Z scoring methodology was already changed. They're pretty much same at the base. If you wish to see same version exactly, see this:

>> No.71094868

>we got too cucky, gays

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>> No.71094910

It is.
The drawcall performance is objectively miles ahead of DX11.

>> No.71094916

I literally got 1333mhz, there is nothing wrong with it.
You won't feel any difference when comparing to 3200mhz unless you gayme and even for that difference is less than 5%

>> No.71094924

Vulkan is better

>> No.71094948

DefectX 12 is garbage shit in comparison to the GODLIKE Vulkan and YOU KNOW IT. So stop.

>You won't feel any difference when comparing to 3200MHz
>even for that difference is less than 5%
How is it there, in 2014?

>> No.71095001

>Vulkan is better
Yes, and?
DX is, for better or worse, the industry standard and the mewling of hipster retards won't change decades of inertia.

>> No.71095026

>DX is, for better or worse, the industry standard
How is it there, in 2017? Also, you forgot to enter tripcode and log in, Micro$hit employee.

>> No.71095069

>stating facts is shilling
Dial down the hysteria there, bud.

>> No.71095090

>DX the industry standard
Sure, kid. Obviously it is, naturally, that's why X4 was developed strictly with Vulkan from the start and Cloud Imperium ditched DX12 in favor of Vulkan years back. And do I have to even mention DOOM 4?

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>> No.71095108

>Cloud Imperium

>> No.71095118

Nice non-argumentation. Oбтeкaй, oбocpaвшийcя.

>> No.71095121

>Zen 2's minimal natively supported RAM spec is 3200MHz
Where did you get 'minimal' from ?

>> No.71095128

Where's the (Pozzed Inside) logo though

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It's ogre.

>> No.71095156

JEDEC is a minimal native spec. It dictates minimal officially listed spec at which device can boot and operate.

>> No.71095173

You ppl are acting like this is your personal victory

>> No.71095175

No, that's a succubus.

>> No.71095186

>Cloud Imperium
Scam riding on as many buzzwords as it can.
Actually competent company with competent engineers, which is an exception in the industry.
Come back when the EAs and the Ubisofts start supporting Vulkan in their AAA shovelware.

>> No.71095236

sports team mentality

>> No.71095262

Imagine what this board will be like come summer.

>> No.71095287

yikes, imagine the curry smell

>> No.71095296

why does windows update and bios update almost half the ssd performance?

>> No.71095309

Show any real world benchmark and prove me wrong.

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>> No.71095355

>the multinational corporation I developed an emotional attachment to has the potential to produce a better product than your preferred multinational!!

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>> No.71095411

Foveros? More like POOveros LOL

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>tfw 3200MHz right now
Shit, am I buying 4000MHz+ RAM as well with the 16 core? This is ridiculous.

>> No.71095806

kek, fuck off m$

>> No.71095817

>make more cores
>glue some dies together
why is intel always late to the party? other examples: multi-core chips, integrated memory controller, x86_64

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Computex + Zen2 might be even worse than OG Zen reveal. Fuck, no one is ready when the Zen 2 parts get their reviews.

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>put RAM block on very top, to create perfect greenhouse housefire

>> No.71095870

Because AMD innovates and have done so for decades while Intel has always had the power to sway with their shekels.

>> No.71095904

they'll probably stick it on top of the disabled iGPU to solve the issue

>> No.71095915

>entire CPoo is covered with RAM on the top

>> No.71095947

there is a big difference between the two benchmark versions used on the q6600, so yes, it does matter. by posting obviously false results it calls into question your i5 8400 benches.

>> No.71095955

>obviously false results
You're a moron. Keep coping, Intbecile in denial of harsh truth of reality.

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>> No.71096135

You're not trying hard enough, kid. Stay mad about reality and a poozzed Intbecile that you are.

>> No.71096160

It's fake, imbecil.

>> No.71096163

Wtf how much is that going to cost me?

>> No.71096181

it was a fun ruse while it lasted. now go have sex.

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>> No.71096473

The board is going to be a fucking warzone the next few days once the reveal happens. Either because Zen2 is fucking amazing and Intel shills going berserk, or it's kinda meh and Intel shills are gloating.

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>It's kinda meh and Intel shills are--
You have to be living on a veeeeeeeeeeery deep end of the idiocy specter to sincerely believe in that any

>> No.71096547

>it's kinda meh
It's 100% not going to be meh with the things that we know. It's already better than Zen+ with the information we have and Zen+ is pretty fucking good. Look at how amazing the 2950X is at everything.

>> No.71096579

Don't get me wrong, I'm planning on buying the 3700X, but AMD could still fuck up by making it expensive (aka very close to Intel's offerings). They've already said at their last earnings report that they're going to increase prices in the future the better their tech advantage gets.

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The state of shitel

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>AMD could still fuck up by making it expensive

>> No.71096753

They have to increase margins. But they also don't have to go full jew.

>> No.71096764

That's all but unconfirmed and what I'm talking about. People are hyped for dirt cheap awesome CPUs due to questionable leaks, delivering shitpost material if they don't end up as cheap as the leaks suggested.

>> No.71096818

TSMC's gen1 7nm yields are higher than 92%, retard. Inturd's 9xxx yields are less than ~40%.

>> No.71096834

> TSMC's gen1 7nm yields are higher than 92%, retard.

I thought their yields were in the 70+% range at the moment.

>> No.71096845

sauce on the yields

>> No.71096862

Gen1 Zen had yields of 70%. Zen+ had them at 88%. Zen 2 is more than 92%. And that's not "just all yields", but PERFECT binning. The rest of "defective/faulty" ones goes into PS 5.

>> No.71096876

>"defective/faulty" ones goes into PS 5
I know you're a shill but that would be just too precious if it were true.

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>> No.71096893


I already have stable3400MHZ overclock on my 2933MHz

I wonder if we will be able to get 3800 overclocked

>> No.71096901

>Gen1 Zen had yields of 70%. Zen+ had them at 88%. Zen 2 is more than 92%.

Two different manufacturers using different techs.
Need sauce.

>> No.71096910

At this point it also heavily depends on your RAM modules, not just the IMC.

>> No.71096911

You mean officially supported on an expensive 6+ layer board. LOL AMD BTFO'D

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>> No.71096929


--> >>71096879.

Read the thread first, before posting.

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amd btfo

>> No.71096979

How is it there, in 2017? Again - you're leaking blood out of your rectum, Intbecile. Go take a Tampax.

>> No.71096993

piss off faggot

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>I-It will be different this time
>yfw it actually gets released

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All one guy. And a side note, Enjoy your CCX chiplet design and off die i/o, It's going to be shit at gaming kek.

>> No.71097042

Wow, you're truly BAMBOOZLED out of your goddamn Intbecillic ass, kek. Also, fix or get new defectors, cretin.

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Please guys buy intel cpus. please.

>> No.71097067

>muh games
God I wish all of you faggots died a sudden death.

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based amd schitzoposter

>> No.71097137

>windows can't handle a 4 numa node chip

>> No.71097144

Nigga what, Zen and Zen+ are GloFo, it doesn't work that way. That being said they're going to have better yields due to how the architecture is made i.e. separating to chiplets. I don't think they're going to have god tier yields out of the bat, but still pretty fucking good.

>> No.71097160

When is this shitposting going to stop? Hell that CPU is shit on Windows and it still got high averages.

>> No.71097173

It has the same principle as SLI or Xfire, And we all know how great that ended up being. ST-T-T-TUUT-T-T-TERS

>> No.71097188

That's 90% of /g/ whether you like it or not.

>> No.71097195

>Slower B-Dies
OK, bud.

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srs question, AMD based tablets when? I don't think there's a single one

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I'll give you this though, It's a monster at rendering.

>> No.71097340

When they sort their hot and power hungry ass GPU out.

>> No.71097344

>No arguments
Are you?
Not him btw.

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I actually cringe when i read someone type "intcel" Can you not make anything original? Or are you just a mindless lemming. Call him a cocksucker or something and stop using overdone words people. Have some OC

>> No.71097449

We're not getting a 3600g in q3 so obviously fake

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Nice COPE, you retarded niggerfaggot. Even going from 1600MHz DDR3 to 2133MHz DDR3 sees a large (somtimes close to 20%) performance gain in most modern games. Enjoy your crippled CPU.

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Ryson iS betuR

>> No.71097484

Never if AMD doesn't make lpddr4 or at least lpddr3 memory controller. Looks like they don't want to invest in it until lpddr5 goes mainstream.

>> No.71097494

His post never said intcel or incel lol you can't even read, retarded nigger.

>> No.71097518

Suck ma dick child fiddler.

>> No.71097553
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Intel 10nm superpower 2020

>> No.71097620

Posting from your phone and then from your computer might make you a master ruse man, but it doesn't make you less of a same fag

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take your medication

>> No.71097798

>facebook filename

>> No.71098246

you do know that incel on /g/ means something completely different?

>> No.71098295

Dude that's a facebook filename, of course he's retarded.

>> No.71098297

I've been here for a looooong time zoomer, Sound like zoomer rhetoric to me. fucking zoomer.

>> No.71098310

Yeah i posted it to facebook you imbeciles.

>> No.71098350

Im not such a hardware buff, what does "minimal natively supported RAM spec" mean exaclty.

You cant run anything less than 3200hz? Doesnt this force you to buy more expensive memory for minimal performance gains?

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OP sucks balls.

>> No.71098397

The absolute state of incel onion inside fanboys

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>Absolute state

Here we go again. Drones can't think for themselves after all. makes sense.

>> No.71098537

Oh fuck, I can't wait to see all the shitposting.

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These specs are meaningless, I run 4133C16 on my 8350K without any issues.

>> No.71098584

Nigger incel soiboi faggot tranny cuck retard

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>TR 2990WX
>Creator Mode


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>> No.71098724

Intel has a theoretic 8000mhz limit, AMD shitters are praising AMD because they're finally starting to catch up.

>> No.71098736

Here comes the cringe

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Sooo, You're comparing a 6 core to an eight core, And the 6 core is winning. Pfffhahaha

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Definitely nothing wrong with me either. XD

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>> No.71098792

A 6 core that's 75 dollars more expensive then the 8 core.

>> No.71098797

>1700X at 2666MHz
Yikes! I've got 16 GB of Hymen RAM running at 3200 no problems with my 1600 in a b350 boards. Step up your game senpai.

>> No.71098803

And it loses in multithread even when OCd to 5GHz

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We need to OC to 6.5GHz, AMD b-btfo

>> No.71098834

You don't say.....lol

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>> No.71099032


Foveros IS pretty cool, but its limited to ARM tech stack--so industry wide interest is limited. Until its integrated with their x86_64 line, it's kind of a meme.

AMD's approach on the other hand is clearly the better path with horizontal scaling of dies for compute and vertical integration of memory--so that most heat-intensive silicon is segregated to prevent other important silicon from failing.

That's my concern with Foveros, cooling. Eventually, we'll figure it out. But I don't think 3D stacking is worth pursuing until we've maxed out chiplets and node shrinks up to the quantum wall. Not to mention, TSMC noted that their 5nm EUV process is giving them an 80% increase in density over 7nm non EUV. For what would traditionally be barely half node shrink to achieve near full node shrink density is pretty huge. 3nm EUV would end up becoming like a 200% density increase from 7nm non EUV (which is what Zen2 is).

It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to see 32c/64t DESKTOP parts for Zen4 or 5 in 3 years.

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>2nd gen 4GHz ryzen CPU already shitting all over a 9TH gen i7 intel CPU OC'd to a blistering 5GHz
intel is doomed

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Wow!!!! How cool dude. Too bad it barely makes a difference in reality. Especially for a $5000 facebook browser like yourself OP.

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>One or two games don't matter!
>A few games don't matter!
>Half of all games don't matter!
>Most games don't matter!
>G-games don't matter!

>> No.71099525
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What are you doing, intelbros? Spam more fake benchmarks!!. We can't let these AYYMDiscount losers win even fair and square. Don't any of you have your emergency principled technologies benchmarks?

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Get a load of this projection.

>because i posted something to fakebook it magically accessed my hard disk and renamed the file
Your average /g/entooman is a fucking retard - and he won't even fall for this bullshit.

>> No.71099782

You should try it, And then shut the fuck up about it.

>> No.71099793

Holy shit, you're actually THIS retarded, eh? Nice shopping skills though, kid.

>> No.71099809

That was the original post, What are you talking about?

>> No.71099812

>Zen and Zen+ are GloFo, it doesn't work that way
It works exactly that way, you dumb NIGGER.
Gen1 Zen had lower yields because it was immature, experimental platform, while Zen+ was just an improvement and they already had a fuckton of experience on what do to by that time, so increase of yields was a given.

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>> No.71099837

Fixed your mistake.

>> No.71099839

You should keep digging the deep hole you're in. You can not just be a cautionary tale on doubling down on retardation, you could also create a source of geothermal power.

>> No.71099850

It means that 3200MHz is now guaranteed to work on 100% systems, whereas with Zen+ it wasn't.

Kys, you dumb fuck.

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>my 8350K


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>> No.71099877

What makes you think i don't like being retarded? I'm not in a hole, I'm on a mountain of bliss, Looking down on you like the insect you are. I fuck your mom.

>> No.71099879

I have a 3200MHz kit too, moron. I was bringing that up as an example, to that loser.

>> No.71099887

Nice gimp

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inb4 intcel shill: posted from my R5 2600.

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I never said you don't like being retarded. God knows most of /g/ clearly loves it.
But now I can call you a necrophiliac - my mother died in 1989.

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What is dead may never die

>> No.71099929

I wonder how many AMDfags will kill themselves when we get no new information about zen 2 other than a 5 second tech demonstration at the end that shows it beating a similarly price intel cpu by 1%.

>> No.71099936

Dude, I just woke up, it's 4AM in here, and I'm currently too lazy to screencap the actual reality to shove your stupid face into the ground and own you in the ass, so better stop.

>> No.71099937

That's hot.

>> No.71099938
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Anon... nvm, pic related.

>> No.71099953

The correct answer is 0, of course.

>> No.71099957
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>2933MHz is 2600's minimal RAM spec
>2666MHz is 8400's minimal RAM spec
>8400 is roughly 50$ more expensive than 2600, doesn't have HT, and has worse thermals/power envelope

>> No.71099961

Get your lazy fat fucking ass up and show me, Get up, Drink some coffee, And put some effort into it.

>> No.71099995

Intel has a theretical 8000mhz effective memory controller. And you guys are raving over 5000mhz. Rated spec means fuck all.

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Nice "gimp" indeed, for 70$ more dollarinos no less:

>> No.71100025

Sorry, meant for >>71099887 coping Intbecile.

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>> No.71100066

add $100 MSRP to those prices and I'll believe them.

>> No.71100103
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The absolute state of Inturd's brainwashed milking lolcows, l/a/dies and /g/entlemen.

>> No.71100104

You guys thing ryzen will be able to pull off a 5ghz allcore? I think not without being an absolute housefire

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>> No.71100135

Dude, TSMC is shitting so many Zen 2 dies right now it would be more convenient to dump all of them at a lower price than to have them piling up in the warehouses.

>> No.71100155

you AMD fanboys are seriously so fucking delusional. I remember you guys cumming at the thought of the rx 480 having GTX 980 performance for $150

Maintain reasonable expectations. I am not on anyone's side.

>> No.71100166

The yields are higher than 92%. And that's of PERFECT bins. The remaining "faulty 8%" are going into PS 5.

>> No.71100169

>The remaining "faulty 8%" are going into PS 5
kek, consolefags always get the short end of the stick

>> No.71100171

Is that with or without the 20C offset?

>> No.71100181

physics doesn't matter, gate tunneling current is a jewish conspiracy!

>> No.71100198

No, since Zen 2 is JUST THAT GOOD, even the "faulty bins with disabled modules/cores" will still BTFO 99% of anything and everything Inturd or noVideo have to offer in comparison.

>> No.71100213

Offset calculation hasn't been a thing for more than a year now, since 99% of all software detecs and recalculates according to it automatically.

>> No.71100216

Nah, yields for Zen 2 are around 70% good dies, which is more than optimal (Intel server chips for example don't go above 35% kek) though it's true only a small fraction of the botchy ones are actually unusable.

>> No.71100225

These are real time numbers.

>> No.71100235

It's you again, you fucking CRETIN?

Once more, you DUMB DENSE fuck - 70% was gen1 Zen, Zen+ is 88%, and TSMC's gen1 7nm is currently at 92+%.

>> No.71100243

still rocking 1066

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>> No.71100250

Ryzen, Not intel dingus. We already know the 9900k is a housefire, I know because i have one.

>> No.71100288

Source on that? Most reputable sites report 70%, as recent as the first week of May.

>> No.71100306

Obviously RyZen won't be able to 5GHz on all cores. And even RyZen+ won't be able to. Now RyZen 2, however...

>> No.71100309

Jesus, I'm rooting for AMD to but that's literally delusional. Only thing ryzen has on it's side is the amount of cores it will have, And navi has already been confirmed for a mid range house fire. Stop hyping so much.

>> No.71100313

>Most reputable sites report 70%
And they're wrong, because they didn't lift a fucking finger to actually calculate jack shit.


>> No.71100326

Oh i'd love to see this. We'll see which one will burn a forest down first.

>> No.71100327

AdoredTV also said 70%, what the fuck are you on about?

>> No.71100328

Cope harder, noVideot.

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>We'll see which one will burn a forest down first
You already know the answer to that. You knew it for years, actually.

>> No.71100353

He literally said "higher than 90%", you dumb dense fuck.

>> No.71100362

Which video?

>> No.71100365

You're an insane person, You really need help in the real world. You're right up there with people that eat their own shit and fuck chickens.

>> No.71100413

At the 3 minute mark and on. Look at the numbers, you DENSE reality-denying piece of shit. Look at them and GET FUCKED.

>> No.71100437

>believing an obese pathological liar that lives on welfare and patreon
lmao children

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Cope and deny reality harder, schlomo.

>> No.71100709

He's just one of those fags that's constantly Post online I knew it attitudes.

>> No.71100731

Jesus Christ anon, please stop embarrassing yourself. Zen 2 is a whole new architecture designed to use as much faulty silicon as possible, ergo the amazing yields, but it's on a new process node that is not mature right now. The yields will be lower for perfect chips, the ones with a a core or two fucked up will still be used for 12 cores and whatnot.

>> No.71100748

That video is from last year, and he's speculating, not giving actual numbers. Meanwhile tech sites have already reported 70% yields.

>> No.71100751

Zen 2 16 cores won't be able to OC to 5GHz on all cores, that's just entire cities burning down waiting to happen. With XFR tho, you'll get your 5GHz on a few cores and still get unparalleled multi core with PBO. I have 0 reason to OC since Zen+.

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>> No.71100903

Those news bios shows 5000MHz.

>> No.71100918

5000MHz is the maximum of what gen1 Infinity Fabric can handle currently. There obviously won't such kits on sale anytime soon, and even in the remote future. However, there will definitely be 4400 and 4800 kits.

>> No.71100925

For servers, yet, no products that uses 5.0 available yet, might just be some overpriced RAID controller. And remember, Intel servers now requires a hardware key sold separately to use RAID.

>> No.71100926

I wouldn't be surprised if they are 90%+ range, because the Zen2 chiplets are extremely tiny. It's one of the reasons why they separated the memory controller - it allows them to halve the die size, it allows them to get around the chiplet to chiplet connection speed in Zen1. And most importantly, it allows them to get out of their GloFo hostage situation by using them to build bullshit miscellaneous dies on an old and cheap node, instead of spending a fuck ton to do bigass dies on 7nm and then losing 90% of them because GloFo are incompetent.

I mean seriously, all that Zen needed was clocks matching Intel, and a fix on the chiplet to chiplet communication speed. They fixed that while also giving the middle finger to GloFo, halving die size, doubling core count, and doubling the chiplet size. They are pulling a masterstroke here.

A more interesting question is what are Intels yields on the 9xxxk and what is their yields on the 56 core monolithic Xeon dies they pulled out of their ass to counter Epyc - on fucking 14nm?

>> No.71100935

Problem is, the Intcel faggot shill is right. Adored is endlessly wrong about... well, everything.

>> No.71100938

Just overclock it.

>> No.71100965

For Zen and Zen+, you are right. Zen+ is the v1.1 bugfix edition on a bugfixed node.

For Zen2, they are using a different everything. So they pulled out the memory controller and made the dies really fucking tiny, allowing them to have awesome yields even on a cutting edge node. This is a really damn clever use of resources.

>> No.71101012

There are two different waffers - 14nm I/O is done on differently sized waffer than CCX chiplets are, so I think he mistakes I/O's waffer yields with chiplet waffer yields. Chiplets are in a 90+ percent range, while I/O is currently somewhere in a 85+ percent territory. Either way, they're way higher than the "reputable industry source claimed 70%" this stupid fuck proclaims.

He hasn't been wrong on things in years. Slight unimportant details maybe, bot not overall picture.

>For Zen 2, they are using a different everything
And that "different everything" was already proven to be much more stable, better, and successful than anything GloFo shat out in the last 4 years, even tough "TSMC's 7nm is raw and unpolished". It's nothing more than a downright FUD and BS. TSMC knows shit very well.

>> No.71101038

Anything above the JEDEC-specified minimal natively supported spec of 3200MHz is already an OverClock, kid. So, no, 4400MHz and higher is not easily achievable for RAM manufacturers, definitely not on non-Dual rank with low timings/voltage, that is.

>> No.71101045

aka 2400mhz is da sweet spot. anything over is non-beneficial

>> No.71101097

>And that "different everything" was already proven to be much more stable, better, and successful than anything GloFo shat out in the last 4 years

Well, yeah. That's part of the reason why AMD cpus have been sucking ass ever since they sold GloFo, and why their GPUs managed to hold on in performance despite their shoestring budget (their CPUs were all GloFo until now and the GPUs were all TSMC).

Still, they'd have much worse yields if they included the mem controller on the Zen2 chiplets, so this design works better. The physically smaller sizes means they can put more of them in Epyc AND have better yields, and by having a dummy die to manufacture at Glofo, they can show the middle finger to their contractual blackmail. Lisa Su has been playing 4d chess for the past five years and is about to pull the checkmate move.

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See >>71099869 first and then off yourself, kindly.

>> No.71101143

>Gen 1 Zen was 2333
It was 2600 at optimal RAM installation, like 2933 was the spec at optimal for Zen+

3200Mhz DDR4 is only a natural progression, and not special at all, and Zen2 will be locked at ~4200 maximum due to the IF speed.

you're a newfag shill nigger faggot kike.

>> No.71101161

>Zen2 will be locked at ~4200 maximum due to the IF speed
4400 was already confirmed and gen1 If can do up to 5000MHz,k you dumb fuck. You've just completely shitted yourself before the entirety of the internet, you stupid cretin.

>> No.71101162

that isn't comparing like for like

>> No.71101169


--> >>71099957.

>> No.71101172

>Gen1 can do 2.5Ghz IF speed
On LN2, sure. 1/100,000 people do LN2

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>> No.71101218

Sorry cunt you'll have to prove me wrong that a 1800X can only do 5Ghz DDR4 speeds on a fully-LN2 cooled system, if that's possible at all.

>> No.71101267

They trippled IF bandwidth in Zen2.

>> No.71101290

>a 1800X
Holy fucking, you're absolutely shitting yourself in front of the entire internet right now. Kekus maximalsimums. An exemplary epitome of the completely uneducated, totally inexperienced, utterly braindead Intbecile in a nut, ladies and gentlemen.

>> No.71101296

Intel bios also shows up to 8ghz. Doesn't mean it'll ever boot though.

>> No.71101438

List 10 released games that use Vulkan.

>> No.71101470
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And these are not all, since list hasn't been updated for a couple months.

>> No.71101780

>still no proof
Ok, kid.

>> No.71101875

Slit your wrists, Intbecile.

>> No.71101891

I can only count to 4
I can only count to 4
>Intels favorite song

>> No.71101977

Old games doesn't matter

>> No.71101993

esl fuck off

>> No.71102233

Zen1 was 2666 I have no ram overclocks.

Intel's 9400F is toe to toe with the 2600x with 3200mhz ram and even beats it in some benchmarks with 2666mhz ram

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>Intel's 9400 is toe to toe with the 2600X
Hang yourself by the neck. Now. Right this very instant.

>> No.71102354

Is that before or after the updates/patches?

>> No.71102422

Before. It's Userbenchmark. Now apply all the (((fixes))), starting from Spectre/Meltdown. And notice the price.

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>> No.71103792

>tfw still running DDR3L 1600 MHz at 1.5v because of coreboot and haven't clocked it up
Fun thing is, my motherboard officially supports only up to 1333, but with fuses disabled people managed to run 2133 without any issues.

>> No.71103815

~2.5x ackshually

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>1600 MHz at 1.5v

>> No.71103853

You forgot to mention that using Incel chips with HT on is asking for trouble. At some point it will become idiotic to keep it on for any reason.
I'm glad my work machine has an i5-8400, it takes away the pain of having to disable HT by simply not having it.

>> No.71103874

Coreboot can't run DDR3L at 1.35v likeit's supposed to, but running it at 1.5v is still in the spec, even though these sticks are pretty much guaranteed to overclock at that voltage. Right now I don't feel like flashing my RAM sticks even though I even have spare 1333 sticks I could use for disaster recovery.

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Performance decrease is still present even without the HT-disabling """""(((patch)))""""", you mong. Roughly minus 8~10% for Inturd and even affects Zen with a -3% hit even though Zen is absolutely secure.

>> No.71103895

Of course there is a performance hit, but disabling HT on chips which support it makes things even worse.

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read the screenshot you retard.
the user decided to run the benchmark against the old scores, and then the new scores.

in CPU-Z, scores are adjusted as new versions comes.

> replies
> 0 people spot this
The absolute state of /g/ holy shit.

>> No.71103933

It was a response to the "I'm glad my work machine has an i5 8400", which is a pretty idiotic sentence all things considered, due to current situation. You can be "not c-u-c-k" only and ONLY if you have Zen instead of Inturd, nowadays. Because paying more for less is the very epitome of the word "idiocy".

>> No.71103957

It's a machine that I haven't bought or built, nor have I picked its specs. I'm just glad I dodged the HT bullet there. If I were to pick specs, I'd go with a ryzen box.

>> No.71103995

Well, you should've specified then that it was your employer's machine, because the phrase "my work machine" could (and usually is) imply "workstation at my home" kind of a device. Besides, many people work from their homes nowadays.

>> No.71104178

>many people work from their homes nowadays.
only on
>/g/ - unemployed

>> No.71104248

>what are 100% remote contracts
>what is remote work
You're the tard here, I can work remotely whenever I want to.

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>> No.71105245

Fucking OOF

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Just delid delap and apply chiller

>> No.71106472


I got a b450 mobo. Do you guys think there will be a max core count via flash that is allowed (like 8c/16t being max?). I was hoping to get the 12c/24t variant, but not sure if it'd require a new mobo change due to VRMs not being sufficient?

>> No.71106803

Depends which b450

Tomahawk b450 for example is on par with most x470 VRMs

>> No.71106817

ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4

It seems to have good VRM temps on load, better than asus/msi

>> No.71106847

Look, I had a 2700x on my shitty MSI x370 since day one, and no problem.
The thing with that brat Actually Hardcore Overclocking is, he only sees thing through an overclocker point of view.
Meaning he qualifies hardware good for stock speeds as total garbage.

>> No.71106860

Oh i have no interest in overclocking this, stock is fine for me.

>> No.71106915

Then you should be at least OK with the 12 cores on anything from b350.
16 cores might be asking for trouble though, as leaks have it at 125-135W.
But I even doubt it would be a real problem, is your case is well ventilated.

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What does /g/ think about RISC-V? is it really going to replace modern CPU's?

>> No.71107479

Because they licensed it permissively every company is gonna tack on some proprietary add-on, so you'll be in the same boat as you are with ARM, where there's a bunch of semi-custom ISAs and no standard for how shit boots an OS and oh yeah it needs this binary firmware to boot at all. And like ARM its probably gonna be confined to embedded low-power stuff.

So in other words, no. Nobody is coming to save you. We're all in the x86 boat, for better or for worse.

>> No.71107667

Big yikes

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>> No.71108312

Maybe in China

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now turn HT off

>> No.71109096

delid dis

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