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>> No.71084609
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>>71084583
>not HFKB edition
You had 1 job

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>>71084583
I don't know if this is the right place for it, but had a weird issue hit my keyboard about 20 minutes ago and not sure what to do about it.

Namely, all the lights on the left 2/3rds went off and won't come back on. Unplugged it, replugged it in. Unplugged it, uninstalled all the drivers., THEN plugged it back in. Messed around with the light settings in the logitech control center and nothing. Even restarted my computer. I don't think it's that they don't work because when I unplug and plug it back in, random parts of the keyboard light up for a brief moment before going dark again.

Is something wrong with a program or is my keyboard just donezo? Pic related is how it looks at the moment.

>> No.71085551

>>71085376
What keycaps are those? How much were they?
I have blank DSA's but I kind of want some with legends

>> No.71085559

>>71085551
Not mine, sorry senpai

>> No.71085811

>>71085498
Sounds like a short somewhere.

>> No.71085823

>>71085811
Blegh, well that sucks. Well, can go out and get a new one in a couple days, so not a huge deal.

>> No.71085899
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Are matias really that bad? i got an old nice board waiting for switches but i keep hearing mixed opinions about them.

>> No.71085930

>>71085899
No, but they're just more prone to chattering. Supposedly that was remedied in a newer revision of the switch but I haven't tried any of the new ones. The alps design is inherently more wobbly too.

>> No.71085937

>>71085498
maybe if you clean it, it'll work you filthy bitch

>> No.71085963

>>71085930
what about binding?

>> No.71085976

>>71085963
Usually if a switch is more wobbly it'll be less prone to binding. I haven't found the switches to bind at all when I had a matias board years ago.

>> No.71086034

>>71085823
You seriously going to bother buying a new board just because the LEDs are fucked? If you do, don't get Logitech again, their QC is garbage
>>71085899
I have a board on the way with quiet clicks. Supposedly the chattering issues are easy to fix on them by cleaning the contacts. I'll report back once I get the board.

>> No.71086049

>>71086034
Not in a hurry to. it still works fine lightning issues aside, and at the absolute worst I always keep a backup keyboard/mouse around in case anything happens. That said I do need to get a new mouse soon anyways, so it's more of a "while Im already out that way" sort of thing.

>> No.71086134

>>71086034
>>71085976
yes i have read a bit about that, but i had my doubts. thanks anon(s)

>> No.71086177

>>71086034
That said, any good brands for mechanical keyboards? Used Logitech mostly and havent had any issues before this current one. Preferably something that won't cost me an arm and a leg(I'll say..idk, $100, give or take a bit budget-wise?)

>> No.71086244

>>71086177
You could try filling out the the buyer's template you can find in the OP, that'd make it easier to find some options for you

>> No.71086281

>>71086244
Yeah mb, let's see.

>Budget
About $100 or so. Not picky, but don't want it to cost an arm and a leg either.
>Location
Northeast USA
>Switch type
Er..clicky I guess. Call me autistic, I just like the clicky noises when I type.
>Layout
Whatever the default is I guess? Not sure what the difference is.
>Form Factor
100%
>Backlight
Optional
>Previous/Current
Similar enough I guess. Usually stuck with Logitech, but Im open to others.

Probably not especially helpful, but there it is.

>> No.71086357

>>71086281
>Not sure what the difference is.
There's the ANSI layout with the long bar enter and the ISO layout with the upside down L-shaped enter, some other keys are also affected due to this difference.

>> No.71086367

>>71086357
Ah, alright. ANSI it is then.

>> No.71086427

>>71086281
You could get a unicomp. Buckling springs aren't for everyone but they're damn satisfying and have a solid sound as long as you don't mind pinging. You could also try your luck finding a vintage model M which can have better build quality but lack winkeys and neccesitate a PS/2 port or active converter and might need some maintenance.
Otherwise, I think a Ducky One is pretty good for the price. You can get one with MX Blues for $90 or maybe less.
There's also this https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3526
You can get it with Kailh box whites which definitely have better tactility and sound compared to MX blues

>> No.71086445

>>71086427
Thanks, I'll check those out when I have a bit more time. Thanks for the help.

>> No.71086627

I'm planning on building a kbd75, just had a few questions regarding diy kits in general and this specific project

1. Do I need to buy cherry stabilizers or are the OEM ones fine? Keep in mind I have pretty much no problem with the ducky stabs, but I'm unsure of how high quality they are considered to be.
2. How important is it to declip and lube the stabs, again considering that I'm perfectly content with the ducky stabs.
3. Will I need to mess with QMK or any other software even if I don't want to change the default key mappings?
4. Can I use these 1.8mm LEDs https://kbdfans.cn/products/f1-8mm-led-100pcs with box whites?

>> No.71087488

>>71086627

>1. Do I need to buy cherry stabilizers or are the OEM ones fine? Keep in mind I have pretty much no problem with the ducky stabs, but I'm unsure of how high quality they are considered to be.
Cherry PCB-mount or GMK screw-in are better and will cause less rattle, but if you mod the stock ones they will probably be fine.
>2. How important is it to declip and lube the stabs, again considering that I'm perfectly content with the ducky stabs.
It improves the sound, no arguing with that. It's very easy and worth the effort.
>3. Will I need to mess with QMK or any other software even if I don't want to change the default key mappings?
No.
>4. Can I use these 1.8mm LEDs https://kbdfans.cn/products/f1-8mm-led-100pcs with box whites?
No. Box switches are missing the two holes that this kind of LED needs.

>> No.71087544

>>71087488
Thank you for the info! Are cherry screw ins decent, or should I stick to pcb mount unless it's GMK?
>Box switches are missing the two holes that this kind of LED needs.
Was just asking because when I google searched I saw this https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/70u9x0/smd_leds_on_through_hole_for_kailh_box_switches/ which says that they are compatible, but the LEDs have to go under the switches.
Now that you've said they're not compatible I'm a little confused about whether or not I should buy them.

>> No.71087681
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Have you noticed that these little cuck keyboards are starting to appear on desks across the US more now? I think that it is a sign that there are more single people typing on their own than typing with a family. How can we stop the cuck keyboard phenomenon?

>> No.71087697 [DELETED] 

daily reminder to not buy a tada
>why?
because their caps are rectangular [narrow] not squire or buy a tada and key caps

>> No.71087748

>>71087718
otherwise coming from the infamous k120
typing on gateron red is like butter

>> No.71087790

>>71087748
daily reminder to not buy a tada
>why?
because their caps are rectangular [narrow] not square or buy a tada and key caps
also the lightning is useless because caps aren't double shot so you can't see shit and it only blinds you so again +shekels for better caps

>> No.71087924

>>71087790
>because their caps are rectangular [narrow] not square or buy a tada and key caps
the fuck are you even trying to say here? Their keycaps are standard size, I'm typing on a tada with custom keycaps rn

>> No.71087994

>>71087790
Wait do people actually want a backlit keyboard? I thought that was something only geriatrics would prescribe.

>> No.71088260

>>71085498
>buying logishit, when they make the worst mechs

If it's using Romer-G switches, you're double fucked and you have no hope. Buy something that isn't shit, then we'll help you.

>> No.71088295

>>71086627

1. Buy Cherry Screw-In stabilizers, they're the best right now. Then look up the clip, lube, and bandage mod. At the minimum, they need to be clipped.
2. Clipping and lubing removes rattle, sounds better, and feels better. Just try it and you'll see it's worth it.
3. Learn QMK anyway, there's a Youtube series on it that makes it easy. I also think Wei actually has an online remapper for his keyboards anyway.
4. They should be safe, just make sure to solder in the LEDs first and make sure they're flush to the PCB.

>> No.71088330

>>71087790
>because their caps are rectangular [narrow] not square

What the flying fuck are you talking about retard? They're dye-sub Cherry profile. You clearly shouldn't be giving advice if you don't even know what the keycap profiles are. Stick to your G4ymer LED shit, retard.

>> No.71088383

>>71087790
Daily reminder to get better taste in backlighting and develop skinnier fingers

>> No.71088435

Anybody here try XDA keycaps? How do they compare to SA and DSA?

>> No.71088531

>>71087924
>Their keycaps are standard size
nope
width is 11mm
height is 14mm

>>71088330
>They're dye-sub
nope

>>71088383
daily reminder to kys

>> No.71088570

>>71088531
Stop shitting up every thread. EnjoyPBT caps are dye-sub and Cherry profile, which is a standard size but different from the rubber domes you're used to. Doubleshot keycaps aren't even necessarily backlit

>> No.71089051
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Where to cop?

>> No.71089113

>>71084583
That doesn't look like a Happy Fapping Keyboard at all, it's like the artist doesn't even browse exhentai

>> No.71089483
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>>71088435
Used them for a few month, they're nicer then DSA imo. Much lower profile as well and uniformity is awesome.

>> No.71089927

is there any cheap and good mechanical numpad around?

>> No.71090378

>>71089483
Nice play-doh keeb.

>> No.71091246

Why do all of you guys always use a QWERTY layout? Don't you know it's inefficient? Why aren't you using a Dvorak layout? You aren't a pleb, are you?

>> No.71091422
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71091422

got my tex ada keycap set from kbdfans
the scoop feels nice, pretty similar to the homing keys on dsa (the blanks in pic are regular dsa)
the engraving feels pretty deep
though yeah, still a little overpriced overall

>> No.71091474

Are there mechanicals that are also ergonomic?

>> No.71091552

What you can say about Durgod k310?

>> No.71091590

>>71089483
What is that shit?

>> No.71091598

>>71091246
Why not? So we can be an inbred retard snowflake who wants to be special, like you are?

>> No.71091803

>>71087544
Just checked my box jades and it looks like you're right, apologies. I didn't think the round through-hole LEDs would fit, but there you go.

>> No.71091837

>>71091422
I really want to like them but am worried about the legends wearing off in time. Report back when that happens.

>> No.71092100

>>71091837
yeah I'm curious too, I'm hoping the deep engraving will help with the wear
>>71091474
https://github.com/diimdeep/awesome-split-keyboards
this page has most of the ergo split boards I know of summed up
pricing/availability depends on where you live can go from about a $100 to $500+

>> No.71092692

why do we hate mx silvers again

>> No.71092720

>>71092692
Actuate too easily, more expensive than reds for no good reason pther than "muh gayming switch"

>> No.71092838

>>71091803
Thank you for the confirmation

>> No.71092861

Redpill me on the miamis. Ass drop have them for 45.

>> No.71092912

>>71092861
meme

>> No.71093217

>>71091590
Keyboard experiments of a buddy.

Lovingly referred to as the dildokeeb

>> No.71093734

Who coppping the Tokyo 60 v3?
I remember wanting to buy the first 2 rounds but I think I am over the HHKB style even though I have never used it.

>> No.71093749

i love my ducky mini with mx reds

>> No.71093825

>>71093734
I recently repurposed an apple m0110 to fit cherry stabs and keys. Custom plate and all that.

No reason for me to buy another hhkb layout board. Lubed gat yellows are hella nice tho.

>> No.71094472

what are the least noisy switches available? i want to get a keyboard to use on train rides

>> No.71094504

What are the absolute worst switches you have typed on?
>Cherry Clears: Scratchy, heavy and overly tactile

>> No.71094541

>>71094472
membranes

>> No.71095063

>>71094472
"cherry mx silent" are probably pretty quiet but I've never cared about keyboard noise so I just use what's comfy (mx greens)

>> No.71095110

>>71091422
I'm just waiting for the PBT dyesub versions to be honest.

>> No.71095301

>>71091598
Not him but Dvorak is alot more comfy to type on due to far less movement from the home row required to type the most commonly used words

>> No.71095348

>>71095301
>alot
Stopped reading there.

>> No.71095385

>>71095348
Sorry about that! These things tend to happen alot when im typing on the inferior qwerty layout

>> No.71095437
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>>71095385
Alright that's pretty good anon.

>> No.71095623

>>71091246
Just can't be assed to put in the effort when I can already type 100ish wpm comfortably with qwerty. I could just as easily ask you why you're not using a curved columnar stagger board like a dactyl or kinesis advantage. Physical layout makes more difference than key layout after all.

>> No.71095669

Any good chiclet/flat boards?

>> No.71095685

>>71095669
the thinkpad ones

>> No.71095702

>>71095669
the apple ones

>> No.71095756

brown

>> No.71096762
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>>71084583
Wanting to build a hotswappable kb is there anything wrong with getting this pcb for it? https://www.1upkeyboards.com/shop/controllers/1up-rgb-pcb-hse/

Also what plate should I get for it? I'll probably be cheaping out and getting one of those cheap plastic cases for it.

>> No.71096772

>>71091246
I use colemak but it's kind of a pain with playing games tbqh

>> No.71096828
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What should I put in the empty area /mkg/

>> No.71096941

>>71096828
White PCB, Black dithered Stallman head and the copypasta

>> No.71096955
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>>71096828
Also come on Anon, read ai03s guide and ditch the promicro.

And don't trust the autorouter.

>> No.71096963

>>71095702
>barely any travel
>noisy as fuck for no good reason
>shits itself over a single speck of dust
>flat keycaps being inherently uncomfortable and increasing mistypes
lmao no

>> No.71097296
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waiting on my rk61 and pcb keycaps so i decided to try and make a custom one in pla. i've also been looking at other novelty caps on ali but the etched ones i like are abs, is it considered plebeian to mix plastics?

>> No.71097370

>>71096955
I soldered an atmega chip once and it was awful
The teensy/promicro is way less work, but this board being staggered prevents me to put it over other switches. Also the routing is by hand, I'll probably do it again 1000 times before ordering

>> No.71097770
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>> No.71097912

>>71097770
What do you do to your images that make them all look like 3D blender renders, both here and on /k/?

>> No.71097937
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My black FC660C Type-S arrived in the mail and it's great! I have to take several pictures of it now and post them like Filco chan.

>> No.71098022

>Budget
€100
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
Red
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80 or 100
>Backlight
Whatever
>Previous/current keyboards
Some chink shit

>> No.71098053

>>71098022
Also would prefer if it doesn't have the "gaymer" aesthetic

>> No.71098072

>>71098022
Ducky One
here you go
https://www.alternate.nl/Ducky/One-DKON1608-gaming-toetsenbord/html/product/1345614?lk=22679

>> No.71098137

>>71097912
it's the lighting

>> No.71098152

I bought box dark yellow. Did I mess up?

>> No.71098168

Is there a 75% / TKL hotswap PCB?

>> No.71098355

>>71098152
Not if you like decently smooth heavy-ass linears with very little wobble.

>> No.71098443

>>71098355
sounds good. Thanks mate

>> No.71098467

>>71088295
thanks

>> No.71098479
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71098479

What are /mkg/'s thoughts on this set
https://kbdfans.cn/collections/keycaps/products/caribbean-cherry-profile-pbt-dye-sub-keycaps

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>>71097770
Am I doing this right?

>> No.71099016

Going to Japan. Any good keyboards that I should get while I’m there?

>> No.71099045

https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32947264492.html
Anyone ever seen this set in person? Do they match the rows, or is it all random?

>> No.71099093

why is everyone posting their airsoft?

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>>71084583
The Solution.

>> No.71099455

Is 96 key a standard layout? Im going from TKL to full size because not having the numpad is always frustrating, but if definitely prefer that tight layout.

There's a 96 on massdrop right now that looks solid but it's 150 in the config I'm looking for and doesn't have a backlight

>> No.71099504

>>71099455
It's kinda standard. It was originally a custom layout but more and more keyboards are coming out with that layout. There are chink clones like the Choc 96 and Drevo joyeuse v2

>> No.71099516

>>71099455
It's picked up in popularity a bit recently.
For other space saving layouts that don't ditch the numpad, also look at the CM Masterkeys M and 1800/compact 1800 layout boards like the Leopold FC980M.

>> No.71099904

>>71088260
Romer-G weren't that bad, it's just Logitech can't make a good keyboard.

>> No.71100017
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>>71097912
Huh, somebody just asked me that on /k/. Copypasta:
The secret is the bounce flash. I bounce a (Canon 580EX) flash off the ceiling for almost every shot, it provides extremely good, diffuse, clean lighting that overpowers local sources so there is no white balance variation and lighting direction can be controlled. It can be adjusted to almost any angle forwards or backwards, up, down, left, right, wherever you need it to bounce, and combined with additional flashes if needed.

Without a flash you might have two or three or even more light sources, all at different color temperatures and different positions that you might not (probably won't) be able to control. The flash solves that, making the lighting uniform, clean and highly directional like a render. The effect is more pronounced on rounded, semi-gloss subjects so that may be what you're seeing. I don't want to make it seem like it's a trick or secret magic, it's just a flash, but that's how and why it looks that way. Most snapshits have only whatever fixed ambient lighting is available.

This is also why photos taken by an open window on an overcast day look so good, the lighting is all from the same direction, is diffuse and is the same white balance.

>>71099001
Best keyboard: check
Looks right to me!

>> No.71100375

i actually like mx silvers

>> No.71100672

>>71100375
based silverbro
sorry i meant bbased sivlerbnbor

>> No.71101178

what is a good 60% hotswap pcb

>> No.71102125

>>71101178
GMMK

>> No.71102134

>>71101178
GK61 is cheaper than the alternatives, especially from taobao, but lacks full programmability

>> No.71102721

>>71100017
Interesting. I myself use a taclight for diffuse lighting whenever I want to photograph something, though it's considerably more ghetto than a dedicated diffuse flasher.

>> No.71103163

idk why you people hate mx silvers

is it because you have fat heavy fingers, hence why you keep accidentally pressing the keys

>> No.71103281

>>71103163
I'm all for less travel, but I find that typing cleanly on something which actuates so easily forces me to adopt a higher, more arched wrist position, which isn't a healthy position for the hand

>> No.71103911

Das Keyboard 4 Professional for €150.
Worth it?

>> No.71104731

>>71103911
Das keyboards are total proprietary shit.

>> No.71104760

>>71103911
no, das are average keyboards with premium pricing

>> No.71104783
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Keycap Endgame
I have pretty much tried all the profiles, legend printing methods, materials, and can offer you /g/ents my recommendation:
Doubleshot SA-Profile Keycaps in ABS from Signature Plastics.

They feel great. They are really meaty keycaps and give you that thock-thock-thock experience that lets you know that you have hit a key. Simple, centered legends have a timeless quality. You can't complain about shine on a keyboard that arrives shiny. Etc etc.
Pic Related.

>> No.71104792

>>71104731
That dial looks pretty cool on Das Keyboards.
Does it actually do anything useful, or is it the modern-day equivalent of media-button bling?

>> No.71104813

>>71104783
How can it be endgame if I hate shiny keys.

>> No.71104819

>>71102125
>>71102125
>>71102125
Hey Anon, do you get the feeling that the GMMK is pretty much the answer to almost every build question in /mkg/, cause I sure do.
As a platform, the GMMK is unbeatable. Pretty much any Cherry MX or clone switch can be stuck in it, making it super-configurable.
It comes in ANSI and ISO, and it TKL and Full Size form factors. Seriously, what's not to love?
Get a GMMK ppl. Don't waste your time on soldered boards. What a waste.

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>>71104813
Agreed. If you hate shiny keys, then SA ABS from Signature Plastics is like poison. PBT caps are often with a pleasant, rough, grippy surface.
But the drawbacks of PBT is that they overall don't feel as nice under the fingers. Additionally, PBT caps make any switch sound thin and reedy, which really takes a hit on typing enjoyment.
It's a trade off. If you can't stand shiny, then you'll have to give up on SAs until Signature Plastics gets those announced PBT SA keycaps. At least then, you get the best profile, even if they won't sound as good.

>> No.71104926
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>>71085899
I've posted once before in /g/ about my old Matias board. It still looks great, and the individual switches still work well, but oh man, the control card (PCB assembly) is flakey as hell. Sometimes it works for months at a time. Sometimes it wiggs out every few minutes and decides to stop registering keypresses.
Pic related.

>> No.71104986

any recommended standalone keypads?

>> No.71105013

>>71091246
>Why do all of you guys always use a QWERTY layout?
Because you can travel the world, borrow any keyboard, and still be relatively proficient, even if you end up behind an AZERTY or a QWERTZ.

> Don't you know it's inefficient?
Yep, that's the rumour.

> Why aren't you using a Dvorak layout?
Because I value transferable skills over overly narrow skills.

> You aren't a pleb, are you?
Um, who cares what I am? Insults aren't going to get me to switch. If the entire world decides to go Dvorak, then I will too. Until then, I'll stick to QWERTY.

>> No.71105067

>>71104819
Stop shilling, hotswap isn't as reliable as soldering and cheaper hotswap boards exist. It also doesn't have QMK

>> No.71105076

Which switch type is like an Mx Black in resistence, but has a tactile bump?

>> No.71105124

>>71105067
>hotswap isn't as reliable as soldering
Pfft. Based on what? What orifice are you talking out of? Because I'm guessing that you are sitting on it right now.

> cheaper hotswap boards exist
Great. Go buy one of those then. It doesn't have to be GMMK, but my argument is that the GMMK is a great board to recommend by default to people.

> It also doesn't have QMK
Oh my god, you can't be serious. The only "TRUE KEYBOARDS" in this world have to run some open-source garbage that you love? Give me an effin' break.

>> No.71105182

>>71105076
>Which switch type is like an Mx Black in resistance, but has a tactile bump?
The closest you are going to get from Cherry itself are the MX Clears.
Just look at this table and compare Black with Clears:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Mechanical_keyboards#Cherry_MX

>> No.71105269

Is there any 75% keyboard with a Japanese layout (or similar) available in Germany?
I just want Hyper keys for my thumbs...

>> No.71105356

>>71105182
Thank you, any other suggestions if I go with non-cherry?

>> No.71105401

>>71104792
It's literally just a dial that spams volume up/down commands.

>> No.71105424

>>71104884
I want someone to make high-profile POM sets already.

>> No.71105584

>>71105356
Box burnt orange? Good tactile with 60g actuation, also reduced wobbling.and better smoothness than Cherry MX.

>> No.71105770

What is the difference between Mx Clear and Mx Whites? Clears are apparently stiffer?

>> No.71105826

>>71105770
Clears have a light actuation force but very heavy bottom out.

>> No.71105832

>>71105770
MX white are clicky (sorta) while clears are just tactile with a more significant bump. And then there's also MX nature white, which are linears that sit right between red and black.

>> No.71106597

>>71105424
You and me both. Right now, POM is rare, which makes me wonder if they really are good or if it's just keyboard hipsters lording their snowflake purchases over us.

>> No.71106622

>>71105770
You need to buy one of those populated keyswitch testers that come with like 40 or 60 keys on it.
You will immediately know more from pressing a single switch than reading months of explanation here on /g/.

>> No.71106755

>>71106597
Probably to do with cost. POM is pricier than PBT or ABS, although it's less tricky to work with than PBT so it's commonly used as infill material for doubleshot PBT caps.
It's a very interesting material though, it feels slick like ABS but since it's wear-resistant like PBT it won't lose its texture over time and it sounds great because it's denser than PBT.

>> No.71106756

>>71106622
they're not that useful imo
a nice gimmick that'll give you an idea (roughly)
but at the end of the day you won't know how a switch will feel/perform until you put them on a keyboard and type on them for a bit

>> No.71106788

>>71106756
They're god for comparing between different typesm but yes I agree they're not a not a good representation of a full keyboard.

>> No.71106810

>>71106756
Yeah, ideally you'd get a cheap hotswap board and some switches you're interested in, use each switch for a while, then decide on which you like best and build a custom board perfectly tailored to your tastes.
A tester at least gives you an idea of how switches compare to each other though, better than just reading force curves.

>> No.71106993
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So after trying stuff out I think this is the best rigidity you can get on a full-PLA handwired keyboard. 2.8mm plate with wider slots after the snap point, and poles sticking out of the case bottom that touch the butt of the switch. 3mm bottom case thickness and 6mm case borders.

The thing is noisy as fuck though. Maybe I could stuff it with felt or something sound-absorbing.

>> No.71107021

Newfag here. Is there a list of recommended keyboards anywhere?

>> No.71107053

>>71107021
No, there are too many combinations of different form factors and switches around to make a list, shit's also entirely subjective and depends greatly on personal taste.

>> No.71107063
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>Budget
Unlimited
>Location (continent at least)
France
>Preferred switch type
Clicky
>Layout
ISO french azerty (mandatory)
>Form factor
Low profile (mandatory), TKL preferred
>Backlight
If possible, not a big deal if there isn't.
>Previous/current keyboards
Majestouch tkl with blues

>> No.71107137

>>71107053
Yeah, I can see that. I guess I'll lurk some more and maybe fill the template later

>> No.71107775
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>>71105424
Soon™

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>> No.71108711

>>71107063
>azerty
well this in the only low profile keyboard with azerty I could find
https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00266367.html

>> No.71108725

>>71108711
>reds
Meh.

>> No.71108733

>>71108725
if you want something else you'll have to go custom, or you can ditch azerty

>> No.71108752

>>71107963
why did you delete your waifu pic?

>> No.71108754

>>71108733
Do they even make custom diy low profile mech keyboards?

>> No.71108776

>>71108754
yes, but keycaps are the biggest issue, unless you don't mind blacks or missing legends

>> No.71108845

what is a good 96key layout?

im currently looking at the ymdk96, im wondering if there is anything better

>> No.71108864
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>>71108845
Depends on your budget. You can go high end and get something like a Duck lightsaver or low end and get something like a choc 96

>> No.71108986

>>71107063
you can get something like a Sharkoon Purewriter which does come in iso, but not azerty. if you want chicklet style keycaps get some from novelkeys
https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/keycaps/products/kailh-low-profile-keycaps-with-legends
remember you can always change the default layout in our operating system

>> No.71109006

>>71108986
Yeah, but if it's ANSI, it's fucked, I'll always miss one key.

>> No.71109037

>>71109006
the sharkoon come in german and uk iso and the keycaps I linked are just generic iso ones. again the legends won't perfectly match, but your operating system will still think it's a french keyboard

>> No.71109209

>>71108752
rare picture

>> No.71109244

>>71107775
Hoping for some cool colorways on this

>> No.71109247
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>>71109209
too bad cause I saved it

>> No.71109358

>>71109247
ok just don't sell it. I am the owner of that picture. If you sell then I get 95% profit

>> No.71109396

>>71109358
It's worthless so I gave it away for free on /v/

>> No.71109402

>>71107775
So what's the current status of the novelpro keycaps? Are they for sale anywhere? Is a group buy planned? Or is it still simply pie in the sky?

>> No.71109416

>>71109402
Samples have been ordered last I checked.

>> No.71109494

>>71093217
>a buddy
I read about it. If you know the guy, can you ask whether a more finalised version is coming anytime soon?

>> No.71109635

https://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Mechanical-Pluggable-Anti-Ghosting-Waterproof/dp/B07LBPK6KJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=victsing+mechanical+keyboard&qid=1558813272&s=gateway&sprefix=victsing+mech&sr=8-4

How does this keyboard / outemu red switches compare to other (cherry mx, gateron, etc.) switches? Are they pretty similar, or is there a big difference for even the average user to notice? Is it really worth it?

I have this victsing keyboard and it seems ok, but for some reason I just don't feel really satisfied with it, and I'm not sure if I should return it and get something "better".

I got it because I wanted more space to move my mouse, I read mechanical keyboards last longer than membrane, it's inexpensive, I don't really care if it's backlit or not (the other one I tried and sent back made an annoying high pitched buzzing noise when backlit), besides, I can still make the keyboard look more interesting if I get different keycaps.

>> No.71110065

>>71109635
Linear switches mostly differ by smoothness and wobble. Lubing them might bring good results.
Are you sure linears are to your taste, though? If you've never tried anything else, your dissatisfaction might be due to just the wrong switch type, not necessarily brand. Try to find something with kailh box whites to try an excellent entry level clicky switch (unless you type in an environment where click noises are unnacceptable, e.g. an open office).

>> No.71111021
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typing on the fc660c is fucking glorious

>> No.71111953

Hows this keyboard?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4322
Is this a pretty good 60% ?
Can someone give me something better?

>> No.71112134

>>71111953
Duckys are generally pretty good for the price. Only thing is you're limited to Cherry MX

>> No.71112139

>>71110065
Actually, I got a redragon k552-n recently, it has blue switches (I think all of their keyboards only come in blue?) and turns out I guess I don't think I like how clicky / noisy it is. Feels fine though. I didn't bother going for a keyboard with brown switches cause iirc people said you may as well go with reds since browns' tactile feel isn't that noticeable. But maybe they would be my best option? I like the quietness of reds, but I think I'd like a bit of tactility, and blues are kinda annoying. Which brown switch has the most noticeable tactility?

>> No.71112181
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im so sad that 99 dollar keyboards are 140 gbp.

>> No.71112201

>>71112181
you can thank brexit for that, especially for Ducky keyboards

>> No.71112262

>>71112201
I wanted to get a one 2 tkl but most places are out of stock and it hovers around £140, depressing then to see it on mechanicalkeyboards for 125 usd and free delivery. 50% markup is insane

>> No.71112290

>>71112262
take solace in the fact that it wasn't all that bad. now that she's resigning things might get better

>> No.71112384
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pudding caps are cutest

>> No.71112386

>>71112139
Gaterons are pretty decent, although still not hugely tactile. Smooth though.

>> No.71112430

>>71111021
Can’t even compare to the FC980C

>> No.71112445
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Is this thing any good? "MechanicalEagle Z-77"
Does this thing have standard caps?
I bought it years ago and I'm bored of my red switch board so might go back to it, but the gamer font on the caps are ugly

>> No.71112459

>>71112445
yeah that's standard. the new ones have hotswap switches, but they don't work all that well with non-outemu switches

>> No.71112480

>>71112459
Yeah I see online that it says they use Outemu's but when I take the caps off mine they're called Xindas and I've never heard of them.

The blues in it are really loud even for blues but they're nice to type on

>> No.71112721

>>71112139
Get gateron brown or box brown, though light switches all have pretty weak tactility by design.

>> No.71112767

>>71094504
Jixian blue

Too tactile, and they sound like cheap legos hitting each other, it made my head hurt even when using headphones

>> No.71112801

>>71112767
Never heard of em, what keyboard?

>> No.71112822
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Thoughts on the U80?

>> No.71112829

>>71112801
i tried them on the chink kworld c430, but i know some other keyboard use them.
The keyboard itself is nice, basically a better motospeed and its hotswappable, but the switches are absolute garbage.

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plain office keyboards make my dick hard, any recommendations? (apart from filco and leopold)

>> No.71112884

>>71112822
Going to be overpriced to hell & back, like anything else rama.

>> No.71112902

>>71112857
>big ass enter
I didn't know anyone even make those these days.

>> No.71112903

>>71112822
No numpad.. why would you even bother?

>> No.71112915

>>71112139
otemu switches are garbage

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>>71112430
a-anon that doesn't make sense though....

>> No.71112933
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>>71112903
because not everyone is an accountant. you should know that by now, heck even IBM, HP, Apple, Dell, and Microsoft knew that

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>>71112857
buy leopold nerd

>> No.71113035

>>71112430
Whats so good about it?

>> No.71113049

>>71112430
And whats the point in having a numpad if you dont work in a office?

>> No.71113050

>>71112857
Ducky One

>> No.71113288
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>>71109494
Been abandoned for a few months, he's picked up case design and is doing cases for a bunch of vendors and trying to get his own boards out. Thomas over in mechkeys

>> No.71113329

>>71112139
That's a problem. See, it's crystal clear you want tactiles, but this happens to be the category where everything sucks, especially everything easily available. You're not wrong that browns are shit.
I'm honestly not sure what to recommend that is cheapo, straightforward to acquire, but will feel good.
On the other hand standard membrane rubber domes are ONLY tactile, so while they're crap, you won't be missing too much if you give up on mechanicals after all.

>> No.71113379

>>71112139
As far as I know, Kailh box pale blues and royals, and Matias quiet clicks are some of the most noticably tactile tactile switches, but it can be a bit inconvenient to get a board with any of them.

>> No.71113506

>>71113329
Or you could get topre so you can use rubber domes on a $200+ keyboard.

>> No.71113534

>>71113506
Topre clones might not actually be a bad idea for him, now that you mention it.

>> No.71114122

hello everyone

im building a ymk96, im wondering what switches should i put: gateron red or yellow

ive considered box reds but however i heard that they can break keycaps

>> No.71114217

>>71113534
Are there cheaper topre clones keyboard than niz stuff? The only thing with those switches that I know are niz and those korean imports that easily cost $140+.

>> No.71114248
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104 Key PBT OEM Profile Double-Skin Milk Pudding Keycap
20 dollars from Banggood, they any good?

>> No.71114254

>>71114122
reds are too light imo, you can get yellows, but it's all a matter of preference. either way you can always swap out the springs if you feel that it's too light.

>> No.71114466

>>71114122
Box switches have been fixed for months now. Maybe if you get unlucky and put caps on the small end of their tolerance and switches on the large end of their tolerance you'll get stretching.

>> No.71114498

https://kono.store/products/infinity-ergodox-keyboard-kit

does this have all the parts i'll need? any cheaper options?

The iris looks cool but I think I need more keys for programming. Not having []\-=~ seems like a problem because the thumb keys already need ctrl,shift,enter,escape(vim),window key(I use this alot in gnome). Let me know if I'm wrong about this.

>> No.71114568

>>71114498
fuck just realized its preorder. am i really going to need to order from dozens of places to get the parts for an ergodox?

>> No.71114588

>>71114568
You can order all the ergodox parts you need from either falbatech or profetkeyboards. I'd suggest a dactyl of some flavor over it though; more comfortable to type on.

>> No.71114653

>>71112139
scavenge vintage clears from obscure keyboards

>> No.71115595

Getting this for my first mech keyboard, recommended from a mate who browses here
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3565
What do you think?

>> No.71115618

>>71115595
What switches are you getting in it?

>> No.71115659

>>71115618
just brown, I don't really know whats best for me but i thought it would be a good choice

>> No.71115707

>>71115659
I'd recommend against it, browns are notoriously pretty shit. They barely have any tactility to speak of.
Clears are significantly better in terms of tactile switches, though you might be better off with blues if the noise isn't an issue.

>> No.71115799

>>71115707
I was gonna get clears but they weren't in stock, I'll look up the sound of blues and see if I'm good with it.

>> No.71115912

>>71112857
>plain office keyboards
So why not go retro?
The >>IBM Model M<< is the keyboard that defined the modern layout.
The >>Dell AT101W<< is another classic, this time with Alps switches.

Both of these are dirt cheap and can be found in every state and every country on earth. Even if you just wipe them down with a damp cloth to take off a few decades worth of grime, you'll find them to be decent.

>> No.71115920

>>71115799
Clicky switches are generally the best choice if you want some solid tactile feedback, though blues have a pretty shallow, plasticy sound.
Otherwise you could get reds and go the linear route. Linears don't have any sort of tactility though.
Cherry switches are pretty mediocre in general, though. But sadly it can be hard to find good quality pre-built boards with better switches.
You might also consider getting a switch tester just to see what type of switch you like best (clicky vs linear vs tactile), though testers aren't really great representations of what it feels like to actually type on a full board of switches.

>> No.71115930

>>71113506
>>71113506
>>71113506
Are there any aftermarket replacement Topre domes that are lighter than what Realforce normally sells?
I've got a Realforce RGB and I find the actuation force to be to much. It's more like Cherry MX Black when I want something more like Cherry MX Red.

Ideas?

>> No.71115985

>>71115920
thanks for the advice, sincerely helped

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>>71115595
While I've never used one, Leopold has a great reputation so the brand seems like a solid choice. They also make a highly recommended topre board if you think that would be up your alley, the FC660C.

Since it's your first board and you might want to try other switches, why not get a hotswap board? You could try a number of different switches on a board without having to buy new boards or desolder your current one.
I'd also recommend against browns. If you like a tactile switch you'll generally prefer a switch with more tactility, and if you prefer a linear switch you'd prefer a much smoother switch. I kinda feel like browns are mostly popular with people who haven't tried out much else. They suffer from being a jack of all trades and master of none, IMHO.

I assume you probably went over this thought process already, but just in case, you should ask yourself if you need a numpad/navcluster/frow etc.
If you don't really need a numberpad, why not get a tkl?
If you don't need most of that stuff to have dedicated keys, why not get a 60% or 65%?
Smaller keyboards can be nice if you game because they'll provide more room for a mouse and it's more ergonomic since your arms won't be spread so far apart.
Also, once you get used to it, it can actually be a lot quicker to use a your numpad/navcluster/frow on a layer and never have to leave the alphas.

Just some stuff to think about before you pull the trigger. Probably a bit rambley,but I'm just trying to help you make good choice the first go around.

>> No.71116409
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>> No.71116445

>>71115595
Leopolds are amazing, probably the best stock PBT keycaps out there (have yet to find a set that beats it in terms of feel) and great build quality. I'd recommend against the cream color though, unless you're really hooked on it it gets old pretty fast and black fits any type of setup better imo. Its also a bit darker irl than on the image.

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>>71116409
>mx white under medium weight & mx green under heavy weight
>when they have identical springs

>> No.71116567

>>71116471
The sound just makes it feel heavier though

>> No.71116602

>>71116567
That's utter bullshit, but regardless the chart still lists different numbers for their weights.

>> No.71117040

So I don't like linear cherry switches (red, black, kailh reds) and prefer tactile meme switches like Zeals. Is there any chance I would enjoy Zeal's linears?

>> No.71117048

>>71117040
Unlikely. They're the same as other linears only apparently a bit smoother.

>> No.71117073

>>71113049
Alt codes?

>> No.71117209

How is this keyboard? Never had a mechanical keyboard before. Going with Cherry MX Red switches btw. https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=3485

>> No.71117513

>outemu blues driving my brother insane at 1AM

worth every penny given to the chinks

>> No.71117545

>>71117209
>cherry mx red

you will so regret this, they are absolute dogshit for typing, even writing a 4chan shitpost is cumbersome
get a mechanical keyboard only if you know how to touch type and get clicky+ tactile switches as your first mechanical

>> No.71117569

>zealios back in stock on kdbfans
>v2 only
FUCK ZEAL AND FUCK KIKES

>> No.71118401

>>71117545
First keeb had chink reds, did tons of typing on it, loved them.
Where is this red = bad for typing meme coming from?

>> No.71118429

>>71117209
>>71117545
Or be like me, Anon. I own many mechanical keyboards, and the one that i keep coming back to is an old Steelseries with Cherry MX Reds.
If you are looking for a smooth, light linear, then Reds are the way to go.

>> No.71118472

>>71117209
Just flipping through the images on the purchase page, the keyboard looks reasonable. It looks like it has decent build quality, and decent key caps.
As time goes on, you may want to swap out the key caps for some other profile that you prefer most. See >>71104783 for details.

>> No.71118509

>>71118401
from me? I tried them once and everything felt so slippery to type, I could barely type anything fast and precise

>> No.71118531

>>71116382
This guy is right. I have used other people's MX Brown keyboards without even realizing that they weren't linear switches. The tactility is weak. There's one famous keyboard YouTuber who calls them "scratchy linears" and I think he's right about it.

>> No.71118566

>>71118509
MX Reds are definitely for lighter typists. It sounds like you're typing is more on the heavy side.

I once stuck some 35g activation switches in my GMMK board. That was the only time that I found a switch to be too light. (MX Reds are 45g, in comparison.)

>> No.71118728

just ordered a ymdk96 with some gateron yellows

>> No.71118873

https://www.amazon.com/VELOCIFIRE-TKL02-Mechanical-Copywriters-Programmers/dp/B07DFBKYT5

This any good? Are Outemu browns more tactile than Cherry MX browns? I'm on a tight budget and this seems ok and looks nice imo compared to some of the other inexpensive boards. I've tried Outemu reds and they're ok but idk if I really like them; they feel like they're missing something, and I don't like blues.

>> No.71118888

>>71118873
Bump is around the same, so still pretty weak tactility. There are a couple cheap boards with box browns which are nicer budget tactiles imo

>> No.71118971

>>71118888
Any recommendations?

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>>71118873
lel

>> No.71119079

>>71118971
Gateron brown.

>> No.71119297

Ok, can't really find any gateron brown switch keyboards that are tenkeyless, but not 60%, and that look ok to me and not white color. If brown switches, at least Cherry MX and Outemu, are really that "bad", should I just stick to the tenkeyless red switch victsing keyboard I already have instead of sending it back? It doesn't look the best I guess, but it's one of the most inexpensive mech boards on amazon and gives me the extra mouse space I want.

>> No.71119339 [DELETED] 

>>71119297
And to add, it's a shame brown switches are apparently as bad as people say because I do like how that velocifire keyboard looks more (better looking shell) than the one I have now, and still tenkeyless.

>> No.71119363

>>71119297
we literally can't decide for you since you don't actually know what switches you like

>> No.71119374

>>71119297
And to add, it's a shame brown switches are apparently as bad as people say because I do like how that velocifire keyboard looks more (better looking shell) than the one I have now (victsing, red switch, not backlit), and still tenkeyless, and the keycaps are double shot and the printing on the victsing one is already wearing off fast.

>> No.71119402

>>71119363
Well, I like the lightness of red switches, but I would like some tactility. So, brown switches? But people are saying they're bad?

>> No.71119430

>>71119402
Brown is fine, use both Cherry MX and Gateron brown here.
Actually I do like brown switches more.

>> No.71119432

So which keyboard is the closest to the classic Thinkpad (T420) typing experience?

>> No.71119513

>>71119430
So, the velocities keyboard I linked a bit above should be fine? At least for my first mech keyboard and since I'm on a tight budget and I think it's one of the nicer looking ones.

>> No.71119528

>>71119513
*velocifire

>> No.71119651

>>71114248
Sure, not much you can complain about for 20 bucks.

>> No.71119672

>>71119513
If it fit your needs then why not. Might not as good as Geteron but you get what you pay for.

>> No.71120277

>>71115930
Yeah BKE domes

>> No.71120311

>>71117073
My TKL can do alt codes and it's from 1989

>> No.71120710

>>71120277
Thanks. I had heard of the BKEs before, but I thought they were only stiffer not weaker. I'll take another look.

>> No.71120722

>>71119651
Agreed. This is getting into rubber dome pricing.

>> No.71120773

>>71120277
A follow-up question: Do you know how difficult it would be to be to put BKEs into a Realforce RGB keyboard?

>> No.71120789

>>71119513
chinky 30-40 dollar mechanicals are best buys, just buy one and be done with it

>> No.71120823

>>71120710
Doesn't Realforce RGB have like 45g domes? I find it strange you find that too heavy.

>> No.71120836
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>>71084583
where can I find incredibly small mechanical keyboards? I'm looking for something that will fit in a space of 8" by 6.5", im fine with like 40% shit

>> No.71120899

>>71120836
have you tried googling "40% mechanical keyboards"???

>> No.71120907
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>>71120823
> Doesn't Realforce RGB have like 45g domes? I find it strange you find that too heavy.
Currently, I am alternating between Cherry MX Reds and the full-sized Wooting board with light switches. In both cases, I'm guessing the activation force is around 45 g, so I too find it surprising that the Realforce RGB feels so much stiffer. Maybe it has to do with where the Most resistance is in the stroke? I used to have an HHKB that was really enjoyable to use, but I lost it in the move 8 years ago, so I can't use it to compare.
Pic related.

>> No.71120913

>>71120899
yeah, most of them are larger than my size requirement, asshat

>> No.71120917

>>71120836
Get your piss bottles off your desk

>> No.71120930

>>71120913
even the vortex core dick muncher?

>> No.71120943

>>71120930
>vortex core
11.6 x 1.5 x 3.2 inches, cuntgobbler

>> No.71120969

>>71120943
>such a keyboardlet even the vortex core is too big for him

are you a midget or something?

>> No.71120989

>>71120823
Wow. You are right. According to the Realforce Japanese website, the Realforce RGB has 45g domes.

I have a switch tester with a row of Cherry MX Black (55g) and Black clone switches, and the Realforce resistance feels ever so slightly stiffer than they do. Weird.

>> No.71121005

>>71120969
No, it's for a project I'm working on. Building a small form factor PC and wanted to get the smallest mechanical keyboard I could comfortably use.

>> No.71121011

>>71120773
It's the same difficulty as any domeswap. Keep in mind that with dome swaps you disassemble and swap the domes with the keyboard upside down or else you're gonna have a bad time. Also BKE domes mess with the actuation changer

>> No.71121038

>>71120836
>8" by 6.5"
that's really tiny, at that point you'd be better off with a macro pad

>> No.71121159
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71121159

waiting for my rj9 cable and connectors...
gonna take a while since it's shipped with yanwen

>> No.71121234

>>71115912
what about alps dust

>> No.71121405

>>71121038
Just looked into it, and you're totally right, that was exactly what I was looking for, just didn't know the proper terminology for it. Thanks, kind anon

>> No.71121657

>>71084583
How do I add home key nubs to my keyboard? I'm tired of having to look down all the time

>> No.71121700
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>>71121657
ball bearings

>> No.71121727

>>71121657
Just drill a hole in them man..

>> No.71121839

>>71121700
That actually looks pretty nice. So I just drill a hole and glue them in.

>> No.71121929

>>71121839
you can actually just force them in, just don't make the hole too small or else you'll break the keycap. practice first on some keycaps you don't mind breaking. having a drill press will make things easier, but you can do it with a power drill.

>> No.71121935

>>71121700
Drill small holes and put ball bearings into your F and J keys? This is brilliant!

>>71121011
>>71120907
>>71104783
Watch Chyros Ran's BKE video at the 2-minute mark for an explanation. The total force applied over the entire force curve is higher for Topre than for MX and MX clones: https://youtu.be/XvelXWxL68w

>>71121234
The rumor is that Alps switches get scratchy. If this happens to your ancient Dell AT101W board, then you will need to clean them.

>> No.71121951

>>71121700
Is there any size of ball bearing that you would recommend?

>> No.71121996

>>71121951
the one in the pic uses 2mm ball bearings with a 1.9mm hole

>> No.71122387

>>71121159
Where is your space key?

>> No.71122664
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71122664

>>71121159
Nice dactyl manuform. You should probably remove some material from the outer 1.5u plate so the 1u cap below it doesn't hit it though. How are the ADA profile caps?

>> No.71123011

>>71087681
>cuck
I think you need to go back

>> No.71123090

>>71121005
Standard mechanical switches fit into a 19x19mm footprint, centre to centre. They're each 14x14 so you could mount them closer but then you won't find any keycaps that can fit. I think kailh choc switches have a tiny bit more leeway in their standard caps so you could mount them a millimetre or two closer.
Based on this, there's a hard limit on the number of keys you can fit. You're gonna have to go some kind of ridiculous 30% route or something, but the ones of that size that are actually practically usable are all designed as ergo or even steno boards in weird non-rectangular shapes (often split, too), while stuff like gherkin (which might still be too large) isn't really meant to be highly practical.
Your other options are microswitches or just tiny rubberdome+membrane.

>> No.71123103

Is GMMK actually the best hotswap board or are there just a lot of shills that recommend it?

>> No.71123182

HYPE ALERT!111!
Ducky x Razor
https://youtu.be/8yqDNn__zNQ
Maximum hyyyyyyyyype.

>> No.71123192

>>71123103
It's the easiest one to get your hands on and has a fully standard layout. Also helps that you can order it without switches and caps so you can just add your own.

>> No.71123200

>>71123103
I've got both the full-sized ISO and the full-sized ANSI and am pleased with both of them.
Have any specific Qs?

>> No.71123222

>>71123200
Heard that the switches are kind of rattly in the gmmk which turned me off from buying it, but it's possible that was either false information or it happens in all hotswap boards.

>> No.71123274

>>71123182
delet this

>> No.71123299
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bout to cop this vortex keyboard
anybody use one of these?

>> No.71123302
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>>71123222
Hmm, I just tried wiggling both keyboards furiously at different points and failed to get any wobble out of the switches. Either I just got lucky and got two good boards, or the rumors you heard are not true. I will leave that up to you.
Pic related.

>> No.71123315

>>71123274
Why? Because you hate the hype just as much is me? Or should I delete it because I've hurt your feelings by dumping on some brand you love?

>> No.71123323

>>71123302
Thank you for checking anon! Doesn't sound as bad as I thought it was.

>> No.71123336

>>71123299
This Vortex board looks OK. What are your concerns?

>> No.71123415

Are the big name brands (Razer, Corsair, Logitech) really that bad?

>> No.71123453

>>71123415
Mediocre at best.

>> No.71123516

>>71123415
I have one of the Razer keyboards with the Kailh green switches in them. If you read the DT wiki, then you'll be informed that the switches are prone to failure and that you should avoid them at all costs.
My experience is totally different. My keyboard works like new and I really like the sound of the Kailh greens made for Razer.

>> No.71123556

>>71098479
Yikes

>> No.71123584

>>71104884
>But the drawbacks of PBT is that they overall don't feel as nice under the fingers.

ABS feels like you have fat on your fingers. But no wonder you have shit taste you greasy muttpig.

>> No.71123587

>>71123415
Their keycaps are complete shit, for one. Corsair and Razer use non-standard layouts so finding a decent replacement keyset is tricky, and Logitech's Romer-G switches use a proprietary keycap mount so aftermarket caps are completely non-existent.
Also their reliance on software sucks.

As for the build of the actual board, it's fine.

>> No.71123590
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Should I spend all my money on SA laser keycaps /g/?

>> No.71123600

>>71122387
the '00', the set doesn't come with blanks
>>71122664
yeah I forgot to do that before spray painting it, I might try 'melting' it, though it doesn't bother me that much just yet
the keycaps are pretty good, felt comfortable off the bat, the uniformity and scoop fits well with this keyboard I think

>> No.71123611

>>71112903
>Not left-side numpad.
yikes

>> No.71123782

>>71123556
What's wrong with it?

>> No.71123899

>>71123222
I can add my own anecdotal evidence from a friend for whom I bought a GMMK, now he's not a keyboard hobbyist and when I tried it myself for a minute I didn't specifically check for wobble but so far there haven't been any noticeable problems. He hasn't yet swapped out any switches, though, it's still factory-assembled.
That doesn't mean the GMMK is the best choice, especially if you find something cheaper. But if you do go for it, it's likely entirely decent, and I wouldn't worry.

>> No.71123993

>>71123590
I recently took off my SA keycaps to prepare for my new keyboard.
tldr: Once you SA keycap, you never go back

>> No.71124015

>>71123600
A soldering iron would work, but it might make an uglier mark than filing it down (in case it discolors the plastic).
>>71123590
MT3 is a better profile to be honest.

>> No.71124038
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>>71123590
Join us!
Seriously, this group buy covers all sorts of keyboards. It's not just some lame ANSI 104-key offering. If you want Mac or ISO or any of those weird ergo boards, this group buy has you covered.
And, of course, you are getting SA keycaps, the keycaps of the gods.

>> No.71124097

>>71124015
I have both SA and MT3 keycaps and would go with SA any day. The MT3 touch targets are simply too small and too cupped for my tastes.

>> No.71124157
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71124157

>>71124097
Fair enough, I just find SA too flat after using MT3. The large keytop surface doesn't really suit a dactyl either, since the curved columns mean the caps will feel noticeably closer together.

>> No.71124168

>>71123584
When I say that PBT does not feel good under the fingers, it is because the keycaps feel thin and cheap and fragile in comparison to the thick and meaty SA monsters that you could put on your keyboard instead.
PBT keycaps feel a little like typing on slightly thick eggshells. They are rough like eggshells and they feel about as thick.

>> No.71124187

>>71124168
Sounds like you need some dense-ass chunks of POM in your life.

>> No.71124219 [DELETED] 

>>71124187
Sign me up!

>> No.71124238
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71124238

>>71124219
Soon™

>> No.71124321

>built keyboard for gf at time
>she streams
>still uses my keyboard in streams

Fuck man why does this hit me so hard

>> No.71124378
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>>71124321
>dating a streamer
Come on anon, you should know better than that

>> No.71124443

>>71124238
I just spent the last 15 minutes trying to find info on this keyboard. It's not on the Novelkeys website. Where is the project page? Also, what profile is that?

>> No.71124465

>>71124443
I dunno about the board itself, maybe someone in the thread for the keycap profile asked about it:

geekhack org/index.php?topic=94195.0

>> No.71124542

>>71124378
She started after we began going out. Ironically, it went to shit right around that time. I'd link her channel but she was abusive so I'd rather not send a personal army nor give her attention.

>> No.71124719

>>71124038
>>71124097
>>71123993
ok I'll bite, can't really hurt considering the resale value if I dont like it, and the ISO and norde support is super nice and not something thats that common with SA as far as Ive seen. Dunno if I should get the ergo layout (currently my daily is an ergodash, and Im loving it) dont know if SA would fit with that layout however

>> No.71124734
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>>71124719
SA works fine enough for an ergodox.

>> No.71124776

>>71124719
Yeah, it's really strange. Signature Plastics makes decent ISO layouts for other people, but on their own website they won't sell them at all. It's really a weird business model.

>> No.71124816

NEW

>>71124808
>>71124808
>>71124808

>> No.71124835

>>71124816
Thanks, anon

>> No.71124857
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71124857

>>71124719
Your planned purchase sounds awfully familiar.
Pic related.

>> No.71124998

>>71124857
lol, yeah basically, but Im getting the novelties, and special numrow as well

>> No.71125045

>>71124998
Those are popular sets. I watched in amazement as the number of those sets skyrocketed in the last month.

>> No.71125195

>>71124168
>thick and meaty SA monsters
Thank you for sparing me the hassle of pointing out that you're a faggot by confirming it yourself.

>> No.71125383

>>71125045
they do look spectacular imo, im intrigued how the final order numbers will look near the end of the buy, theres usually several hundred purchases in my experience.

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