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68950824 No.68950824 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

Lube your linears and buy hotswap for your first board edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG (embed)
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL (embed)
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp (embed)
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG (embed)
>Group Buys
Deskthority, Geekhack, Massdrop
>Keyboard wiki

Last thread >>68931451

>> No.68950849

should i order custom WASD 60% (which is a poker 3) with the color keys i want or buy poker from amazon and hunt for the key caps

>> No.68950999

What’s the superior keyboard layout? Any of you use Dvorak or others besides QWERTY?

>> No.68951087

>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
TKL or 75% (want arrow keys)
don't need it
>Previous/current keyboards
CM Pro M, GMMK TKL, Model M

>> No.68951137

Pretty much any of the alt layouts are superior to qwerty. Just depends on if you can be assed to learn one. There was an anon some threads ago that uses workman.

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WASD keycaps are garbage. Only get them if tai-hao or gateron doesn't sell the exact colors you want

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>> No.68951415

is this a yearly reminder?

>> No.68951424
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Hello guys, my first post here, so let's hope this goes well. The Logitech K120 is the best keyboard I have ever tried. It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today. It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products. The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design. It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2018, people. I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering. I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

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Add this to the next OP please OP.
HOTSWAP GUIDE FOR NEWFRIENDS: https://pastebin.com/V8rZJnbs
See above.

>> No.68951469

That should be GK64 right?

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>> No.68951557

any of you built your own board? how's the experience of buying the shit and putting it together?

>> No.68951578

Colemak is much better than Dvorak.

>> No.68951604

I know this is copy pasta, but I really do like Logitech. The K840 is a great keyboard for the price.

>> No.68951617

No! The gk64 has that gay layout. I mean the gk61

>> No.68951685

$3000 max, $1000 min
>preferred switch type
something with the feel and loudness of a beamspring with the ability to hit 140 WPM like on a buckling spring
ANSI, commodore, symbolics, and atreus layouts are all fine with me
>form factor
140-key minimum
it'd be nice, but not required. i use a thinklight mostly.
>previous/current keyboards
IBM 3727, IBM Enhanced Keyboard (2nd Gen), AST KB-101, an assortment of custom VIC-20 lookalikes

>> No.68951693

Are browns good

>> No.68951712

No the only 'good' mx tactile switches are not available in prebuilt keyboards. You will need a hotswap board, full custom build, or buy a custom second hand in order to use ergoclears or zealios or maybe even those holy pandas on massdrop

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>> No.68951721

I don't have the patience for thatr

>> No.68951736

browns feel like reds with dirt in them

>> No.68951737
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Put some box navies in this, mill a stainless steel case for it.

>> No.68951753

I'm using blues now but my problem with them is that some of the switches wear out eventually and become unclicky, and I can't abide a board with some keys clicky and some not. If it's going to be that way wouldn't it be better if none of them clicked from the start?

>> No.68951767

someone should buy that, even just ironically.

>> No.68951773

sounds like greens would work for you

>> No.68951778

How difficult is it to change out the offending switches with new ones?

>> No.68951796

I don't know, seems too complicated for me. I was barely even able to get those stupid stabilizer bars back on when I tried to clean this fucker the other day in hopes it might help.

>> No.68951835

Just looked it up, as I've never done so myself either. You just need a couple soldering tools.
You can do it, I believe in you.

>> No.68951880

if you ever fuck with me again i swear to god

>> No.68951914

I did an entire fullsize board as my first desoldering project, with a bit of soldering experience beforehand.
It was a shitload of work and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but a single switch is easy enough, especially if it doesn't have an LED installed.

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what happened to the anon with pic related? he used to post all the time but havent seen him around lately
then buy topre or linear
you do need to be able to sit still for like an hour but I know that's asking a lot of someone for something they'll use for a decade

>> No.68951943

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Want it to be hotswappable
>Form factor
60% or TKL
Dont need
>Previous/current keyboards
I like my Ducky but I wanna try more switches and 60% sometime

>> No.68951962

I just spent like an hour making this >>68951450
Basically you want a gk61 kit

>> No.68951970
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Haven't you taken the Romer-G pill yet?

>> No.68951990
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Is owning a Leopold FC750PD based and redpilled?

>> No.68951996

I once researched a bit about the GK64 and one problem was that there is no fitting plates for the stabs since its got an untypical layout
does the gk61 have the same problem?

>> No.68952007

It's one of the better prebuilt boards out there, so make of that what you will.

>> No.68952010

That's exactly why you want the GK61 over the GK64.

>> No.68952016

also heard the software is shit

>> No.68952069
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Stop typing like a neanderthal.

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Post aesthetic 60%s.

>> No.68952335

>both hands along the same slant
That is not how hands work and you know it.

D, X, and R are on the left-hand slant, not D, E, and C. I can see W being hit with the ring finger, but hitting E with the middle is batshit,

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Exent is love
Exent is life

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>> No.68952474

It works just fine. Typing that way feels comfortable, despite how the angle looks. If you look closely the B is shifted slightly to the left, and the Y is closer to the right hand.

Hitting X with the ring finger makes the most sense, look at how your wrist turns, it turns inwards, towards your body. This is most natural. If you hit X with your middle finger, your wrist turns slightly outwards. Try it yourself.

>> No.68952556

I need to know if Box Jades will make me go insane after two days of typing.

>> No.68952577

Does loud clicking annoy you? If yes, then the answer is obvious.

>> No.68952609

>look at how your wrist turns
See this. There's your problem. Typing with your wrist? Enjoy your carpal tunnel.

>> No.68952639

It's just a tiny little bit, if any at all. I've been typing for like 20 years, and never had any pain in my hands or wrists.

>> No.68952655

I don't like loud switches and neither should you.

>> No.68952662

Love my gk64 with aliaz 70g. The chink software isn't the greatest but they've updated it like 3 times this week and I've now been able to program the 3 layers exactly as I want, so I don't need QMK at this stage.

>> No.68952672

Am I the only one who actually loves MX browns and thinks blues/reds/clears are all meme shit?

>> No.68952675

Yes. Browns are dogshit.

>> No.68952683

Most people hate on browns because they are the most popular and therefore don't have the hipster cred that appeals to the mechanical keyboard crowd.

>> No.68952697

The OEM stabs rattle terribly but I replaced them all with cherry plate stabs on the weekend (lubed with permatex dielectric grease) and it has made a massive difference. Didn't been have to remove the plate to swap them, just the switches in each of the 4 keys. You can't use a PCB stab on the left shift because of the plate shape.

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So can we stop the GWOB now? There's literally nothing wrong with browns.

>> No.68952919

imagine paying top dollar for rubber domes

>> No.68952989

>Preferred Switch Type
Something like MX blues but a little quieter
>Form Factor
Preferred, but not necessary
>Current Keyboard
BlackWidow Ultimate with razer greens (was super cheap at the time)

>> No.68953018 [DELETED] 

>buy hotswap for your first board
Suggestions for a TKL hotswap board?

>> No.68953058

GMMK or that Assdrop one

>> No.68953202

anything with matias quiet clicks
mechanicalkeyboards.com has some

>> No.68953234

I love how your pictures trigger yuropoors daily. Keep up the good fight.

>> No.68953277

I prefer Romer-G over Cherry Browns.

>> No.68953383

For anyone considering a GK61/62/64, the official site for the software is here - http://www.jikedingzhi.com/downloadlist?driverID=41

>> No.68954504

Has anyone got a link to the company out of California that recently started advertising pre-lubed tactile switches, similar to zealios? The name escapes me

>> No.68954505

anyone have experience trampoline modding switches? I'm using Plasti-Dip (couldn't find craft latex, which would have been the ideal choice) on the top housing to dampen the upstroke of the stem. Currently demo-ing the method on a Cherry Red that I don't care about. One coating did just about nothing for the sound and didn't affect the travel. Currently have coat two on the upper housing and waiting for it to dry. If anyone has had success with this mod, could I ask for any tips? Otherwise, I guess I'll have to drop money for QMX clips.

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>> No.68954545

Has anyone used Aliexpress to ship a keyboard to Canada before? Amazon.com has the keyboard and will ship it to Canada and tells me exactly the price of the shipping/duty fees. Aliexpress says free shipping but doesn't say anything about duty/import.

Going by the totals that the websites give me, it would be 3 bucks more on Amazon.com but will I get hit with extra duty fees that Aliexpress isn't including?

>> No.68954554

Thank you!

>> No.68954752

All the clicky Kailh Box are nearly the same how am I supposed to pick one

>> No.68954822

Just get box navies. Thick clickbar so it's super tactile and the spring is heavier so you don't bottom out all the time.

>> No.68954844

Aren't they too heavy for long typing sessions?

>> No.68954857

I don't think so, but then that depends on how girly your fingers are.

>> No.68955128

I'm reading that Kailh Box switches break keycaps even after a supposed retooling. How much of an issue is this?

>> No.68955152

>jade: C L I C K with some response problems
>navy: hard as fuark, made for bear fighters
>white: gotta go fast
>pale blues: perfect balance made by angels

>> No.68955239
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Not much assuming you aren't using GMK keycaps. If you're really paranoid about stressing keycaps then get yourself one of these

>> No.68955701

I would have normally thought >>68954857, but I use 80g tactiles and even I thought the navies were a bit much; possibly because the clickbar is so much heavier. Jades are a safe choice where you get the best of thick click and high, but perhaps not overbearing, resistance.

>> No.68955715

Was a smooth linear switch? Got a Kira coming at some point and went with coppers a year ago when I ordered but since I think I decided I like linear switches for everything

>> No.68955872

replying to myself here, but in case anyone else is interested, I had success reducing the upstroke by dabbing two coatings of the Plasti-Dip at the top of the stem on each side instead of the housing. Noticeably quieter return compared to a Cherry Black I have to it.

>> No.68956099

Topre or Holy Panda switches?

>> No.68956158

I'd get the holy meme over rubber domes to be honest. You can always get a topre board but the same can't be said for the meme switches.

>> No.68956367

>Preferred switch type
I don't know any. I *think* I'd rather have less noisy switches, I don't understand the actuation stuff.
ISO. Spanish. It's a must, as I'm a language specialist.
>Form factor
100% or 80% + an additional 10 key stuff.
God, no.
>Previous/current keyboards
Rubbery microsoft wireless thingy. I want into a nicer typing experience, considering it's the most important part of my job, timewise.

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topre with bke extreme domes.

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>tfw typing on BKE extremes

>> No.68957853

Rip just received some bke heavies

>> No.68958187

is there such a thing as a short action and silent mechanical keyboard? I don't like those full keys.

>> No.68958219
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yes, pic related

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>> No.68958286
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Is there a name for this type of keyboard layout?

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>> No.68959096

>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
Anything bigger than HHKB layout
>Previous/current keyboards
Some shitty Coolermaster with reds, Filco Majestouch 2 (browns), Vortex Race 3(clears), Tokyo 60 - current
Prefer hot-swap switches now that I have a tokyo60

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>> No.68959278
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>can't afford a proper home planet because he wastes all of his money on mechanical keyboards

>> No.68959449

projecting and totally fucking jealous

>> No.68959740

Why aren't there OS-tans but for switches?

>> No.68959748


>> No.68959762

when the FUCK are my zilents shipping

>> No.68959778

Should be soon. I placed my order on 11/23 and received them 12/12.

>> No.68960642


Goat switch?

>> No.68960833
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Well guys, after using the straw method to clean all of the keyswitches that I spilt pepsi max into, I am here to unfourtantly report that my poor Gateron Blacks are a shadow of their former selves. I unironically prefer my Cherry Mx Browns at this point.

That is all, I'm going off the air after this one.

>> No.68960849

Are OS Tans still alive?

>> No.68961246

~ $150
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue or other clicky
>Form factor
rgb or none
>Previous/current keyboards
CM storm quickfire TK with babby's first switch

>> No.68961385

I only own two, one for work and one for home.

>> No.68961456

This is a really great layout.
This one is even better.

>> No.68961561


>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type
Mx Blue


>Form factor

white or rbg

>> No.68961644
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>open some keyboard seller website and leave the tab
>few mins later hear a "ding"
>realise it came from the keyboard tab
>some salesman messaged me asking if I needed help
what? why did they do this? is this what happens when reddit creates a store? I can post the rest of the chatlog too

>> No.68961649

Skip that shit and get a repro model F

>> No.68961660

Ducky One RGB depending on which country you buy it from is around 150

>> No.68961688
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the website was also pure cancer, couldn't even access it in firefox because uMatrix blocked like 25 domains, had to use my spare unused chromium installation

>> No.68961690

Are reds bad for typing?

>> No.68961710

How autistic are you. Pretty much every website does this. Even popular ones like staples or best buy track what you're looking at and will even pop up a flash sale of a product you want to buy just to get you to purchase it.

>> No.68961717

implying i'm an amerifat aside and the fact that they don't pull bullshit like that on us in europe, this wasn't a popup recommending a product but an entire text chat session started by them

>> No.68961718

Is this your first day on the internet? This shit is everywhere.
Most website have the decency to not make sounds first, but some just like to be annoying, I guess.

>complaining about about technical stuff about the website to random customer support
fuck off, know your place, nerd

>> No.68961735

Ignore the stock photo the layout is AZERTY

>> No.68961743

Looks good thanks anon

>> No.68961744

Most chink sites do that tho

>> No.68961749

What are you talking about, this has never happened to me before, I guess europe has laws against this practice, enjoy your land of the "free"

>> No.68961759

Based autist

>> No.68961761

noice thanks

>> No.68961763

>they don't pull bullshit like that on us in europe
Who let the autist out of 4chan? Cause they definitely are doing that as well.

>> No.68961769

>enjoy your land of the "free"
>assuming my country of residence
You're even stupider than you originally portrayed yourself as, please leave this website.

>> No.68961771

They don't have laws against it, just laws on how you can manage it

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>seething mutt

>> No.68961788

what's her name

>> No.68961796

zero two

>> No.68961952

>Ducky One RGB
there are none for under $200 dude, what

>> No.68961964
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I love your guns but brows are pretty bad, bud. Feels like sand. Blues are where it's at.

>> No.68962283
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>Cherry MX

>> No.68962357

Then you aren't looking hard enough cause this one is definitely under 150 and meets his requirements

>> No.68963117

I've got a board with box reds and it's fine for typing. Although compared to other options for linears, I find box linears to be a pretty lackluster choice in general.

>> No.68963138

Which linears do you prefer?

>> No.68963186

Does this ship to entire EU?

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Corsair K70 thoughts?

>> No.68963227

You're not 1337 enough for molten core.

>> No.68963231

I... what?

>> No.68963316

What did she mean by this?

>> No.68963340

nice white (or other colors) PBT DSA keycaps? Preferably letters only, gonna use 'em on my custom colemak ergodox build

>> No.68963437

I mean that the difference between Cherry MX and Gateron switches is worlds apart and it's almost inconcievable that Gateron are considered the cheap knock off clone.

>> No.68963469

depends what you mean by "built your own board"
if you mean buy the PCB and case and assembling it, it's not hard. get a soldering iron and set some time aside, it's a comfy repetitive task of soldering all the switches and diodes (and resistors and LEDs if you care)
if you mean making your own plate/case and hand wiring or making a PCB, that's a little more involved, but still not too difficult if you have the tools and know how to use them. check keyboard layout editor and swillkb for the plate/case and buy a teensy or pro micro for hand wired

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>staggered rows
>typing like a neanderthal

>> No.68963538

my retooled box whites had no effect on my mt3 set. they fit just fine on another board still

>> No.68963560

Vintage blacks are my favorite. Retooled blacks, gat yellow, gat black. Haven't tried tealios but a lot of people like them as well.

>> No.68963609

Yes, they also have other sites depending on where you are

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>> No.68963708

links? any for central/eastern europe?

>> No.68964126

>buy hotswap for your first board
memeing or...? I'm new to this

>> No.68964305

No, serious. That way you won't have to buy a whole other board or go through the tedious process of desoldering and resoldering everything if you want to try a different switch.

>> No.68964351


thoughts on this?

>> No.68964442

Not the best quality, but it's a great option for a hot swap board

>> No.68964477

>full size 59.99
>tkl 59.99

how are they getting away with this? surely the tkl should be cheaper as they'd be using less plastic, less PCB, less switch slots (or whatever you call them), less LEDs, etc

lmao, the keyboard industry is so jewy

>> No.68965266

Best tactile silent switches out there? No cherry please.

>> No.68965274

V2 zilents.

>> No.68965281
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If Cherry MX Browns just feel like "dirty Reds", would be better off getting Reds if those two switches were my only options? They will be used for typing, work, and some gaming. Thanks.

>> No.68965433

yea try and get retooled reds, they feel great!

>> No.68965514

got mine a little over a month ago. it's been fun. great for exploring mods because I've been able to take out the switches and lube/mod them without excessive teardown. just got done lubing the stabs last night after realizing how easy they are to remove once the switches are out of the way

>> No.68965833

Is it safe to clean your MKB in the dishwasher or is that just a meme?

>> No.68965969

It should be fine if you let it fully dry afterwards.

>> No.68966208

I still have the keycaps that came with my keyboard and they're starting to get shiny. Where can I get cheap, durable replacements?

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>> No.68966246

This, that's just a sign of high-quality premium ABS.

>> No.68966456

I'm going to buy browns and there's nothing you can do to stop me!

>> No.68966469

>I'm going to catch AIDs and there's nothing you can do to stop me!
okay anon
you do you

>> No.68966474

You are correct, there's nothing I can do to cure your autism.

>> No.68966476

Nothing wrong with that if they're Gat browns

>> No.68966490
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Anyone want to buy my ES-87 w/ MX Browns?

>> No.68966562

Does it have xhci?

>> No.68966569

I don't know.

>> No.68966578

then I won't buy it

>> No.68966584


>> No.68966673

Are leds a problem in a hot swap board like this? Or are they just a pain while desoldering?

>> No.68966708

A lot of them use SMD LEDs, so you won't have to desolder shit. They'll work with SMD-specific or clear housing switches, black housings will obviously block the light.

>> No.68966861


>> No.68966882

>not box white

>> No.68966895


>> No.68966908

Similar weight, sharper tactility, much better sound

>> No.68966916

I see. Also, do these include stabilizers or do I have to buy them separately?

>> No.68966935

Are they durable, though? Or just shitty clonew that will break in 3 years?

>> No.68966938

Depends on what you're buying, some kits make you buy everything separately, others give you the whole board minus switches and caps.

>> No.68967003
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Nice. I'm waiting to get my kailh box switch tester, then I'll post again to make sure I don't fuck up somewhere buying everything separately.

>> No.68967006

It's a new design that's inter-compatible with MX mounting points, the only bad thing about them is they can stretch and damage certain keycaps but that's supposedly been fixed with a retooling.

>> No.68967029

I'm looking at some of them and they really do seem better than cherry in every aspect, what do you think of this one? https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-full-customized

Saw someone else mention it in this thread, it's modular and you can get it with gateron/kailh switches

>> No.68967088

That's one of the go-to options for a first board for that reason. Hotswap means trying new switches is as easy as buying a sample pack, pulling the caps and switches of the keys you want to try them on, and popping the new switches back in. No fucking around with disassembly, desoldering and voiding warranties.

>> No.68967103

Is the board good quality though, if you know? Because it is literal reddit-tier in both naming and the website it's sold on(glorious PC gaming master race? come on, I'm not /v/)

>> No.68967118

From what I've heard the quality is fine. Nothing amazing, but fine.

>> No.68967126

alright, thanks anon for showing me that there's viable cherry alternatives

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ded thread
ded memes

>> No.68969032

>No spacebar

>> No.68969104

Are you blind? it has three of them.

>> No.68969105

silvers are the only good cherry. and even then in the higher end topre etc can get way better feel

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I don't see a single one.

>> No.68969229

>spacebars can only be on the bottom row

>> No.68969257

>what are thumbs

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>he uses his thumbs when typing

>> No.68969474

About to make a build for the office, I have Navy's and gat browns, I prefer the Navies but I fear office peoples may not.
Wat do?

>> No.68969510

G613 is 70 bucks right now, worth it or is romer g just meme switches

>> No.68969553

I wouldn't even type on romer g if they were free.

>> No.68969594

Navies if you hate your coworkers, Browns if you can't afford other switches.

>> No.68969699

If you don't mind the zeal tax™ then get V2 zilents. Them being "what box royals should've been" is pretty accurate.

>> No.68970037

How does your life get to this point where you type so frequently you get fast with this horrible form

>> No.68970560
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How do people have such shit typing technique? Was touch typing not taught at school? Fuck me I was taught in grade school in the early '00s.

>> No.68970720

custom keycaps are half the fun of mech tho

>> No.68970932

which is more tactile zealios v2 or zilents v2

>> No.68970978

They're the same. The only difference is if you want the switch silenced or not.

>> No.68971194

overpriced, non-standard bottom row, shit keycaps

>> No.68971210

>If Cherry MX Browns just feel like "dirty Reds"
It's mostly a shitty meme. Use tester and see what switch you like the most. It's all subjective.

>> No.68972703

holy fucking shit

>> No.68972896


>> No.68972937


>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type
Any heavy (60g +) linear


>Form factor


>> No.68973066

What do I have to know about PBT key caps before ordering?
I have a backlit JIS keyboard, and I can only get a full set of non-backlit 1.5mm PBT key caps. Everything else will have to be frankensteined on top of it.

>> No.68973077

What keyboard should I get if I like anime feet

>> No.68973099

I keep reading that laser etched keys do not fade and if they appear faded you just need to buff it out until the key reads good again but is this a lie? I'm worried I'll fade it more if I try

>> No.68973366

Pok3r or Anne Pro 2

>> No.68973495

Humans are bound to become efficient at something if they do it over and over again.

>> No.68973546

Ducky One 2 PBT or Leopold FC900M with MX blacks I guess, not many prebuilt options with really heavy switches or fullsize kits out there.

>> No.68973584

Tell me about!

*starts masturbating and cums in 5 seconds*


>> No.68973645

Theoretically limitless, but $250 is my comfort zone.


Needs a tactile bump, don't give two shits about noise. Not too soft.

German QWERTZ preferred, US ANSI possible

>Form factor

>ever wanting or needing backlights

>Current keyboard
Some old HP office surplus piece of shit I really want to get rid of.

>> No.68973660

>all those keys and all that space
>space bar is tiny

>> No.68973725


>> No.68973727

So theoretically, you could gibs me money?

>> No.68973784
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Sure, why not.

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I know your feel, friend

>> No.68973816


>> No.68973836

So I wanted to get mx clears, but I went for the browns because they were hella cheap because the model I wanted was a return from mechanicalkeyboards.com and had everything cheap except the switch was brown
"dirty reds" is pretty accurate, you only notice the bump well if you intentionally type lightly, otherwise they feel like reds with sand or grit in them that you can barely feel. Compared to my mx black keyboard, my mx blue, my mx red, and my buckling spring, the feeling ranks rather low.
It's a ducky one 2 and it's back-lit like I wanted, so I can see some of my rather unused keys when I type in the dark, and it looks nice. Overall, I'd say it was a solid buy for $70, I enjoy using it, but I probably should've forked over the extra $20-30 and gotten the clears.
tl;Dr - Comparing cherry brown to buckling spring and cherry red, blue, and black: a bit better feel than red. Worse feel than blue but not by too much and the blues are too loud for me. Worse than black, but not by too much. Buckling spring is a bit too heavy for typing all day and my unicomp's build quality is meh. Black > buckling spring > brown > blue = red

>> No.68973875

$50-150 top
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
100%, media keys
>Previous/current keyboards
first mechanical, want to try

>> No.68973929

I'd rather get one of those Varmilo sakura edition boards or something with those KBDfans sakura keycaps if I were to weeb it up.

>> No.68973942

>not making your own keyboard
What kind of slav are you?

>> No.68974022

Yeah they do look a lot more subtle, but I still think the kyoto keycaps (what I posted) would look really good on a white frame, if not a bit busy.

>> No.68974192

I prefer the sakura ones because they're more coherent, between all the different shades of pink and "dude Japan lmao" icons the Kyoto ones are a bit all over the place.

>> No.68974239

What exactly is a Cherry MX Purple? How does it compare to other MX switches?

>> No.68974250

Putin 1000 with Novichok keys

>> No.68974335
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first keyboard, will I regret it?

Also, if any russian anons could suggest a lube I could get locally, that would be great. Getting krytox or some other meme shipped isn't easy or cheap, so I wonder if I could use a generic silicone plastic-friendly lube (like CИ-180) instead. Some people suggested it for lubing stabs, so I know it can be used with keyboards to some extent.

>> No.68974359

You have my Upvote man!

>> No.68974382

If it's your first board, I'd highly recommend going hot-swap. KBDfans sells sets of sockets you solder into the PCB, but they're pretty expensive.
An anon here has built his own hotswappable KBD75 using Mill-Max 0305-2 sockets, and from my research Mill-Max 7305-0 should also work.

>> No.68974424

Gotta say, "buy hot-swap for your first board" is one of the worst memes here.
Aside from general annoyance of forcing a dumb meme, you might trick some poor anon into ruining their first keyboard, and that's just not cool.

>> No.68974475

How does the ability to easily pop in and out switches ruin a keyboard?

>> No.68974478
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I think that Cherry MX switches should be banned.

Who is with me?

>> No.68974504

Nah, retooled blacks/reds are actually pretty solid linear options now.

>> No.68974540

I bet I can easily beat you in a typing race.

>> No.68974727

Best gateron/kailh clicky switches? Looking for something like mx blue but better, I heard about box whites

>> No.68974778

How am I supposed to know if a keyboard I'm ordering has retooled cherry switches or not?

>> No.68974804

Brainlet here, I see the GK64 has an offset row, what cases/plates should I look for? Also, which stabilizers do I pick for kailh switches?

>> No.68974819

Das Keyboard

>> No.68974821

The retool happened some time last year, so most brand new boards should have retooled switches by now.
If you want a safe bet, silent reds/blacks used the new tooling from the very beginning.

>> No.68974913

Box white, pale blue, jade, and navy are the clickies people seem to enjoy the most

>> No.68974925

Any good resources on the differences between them?

>> No.68974942

Because hot swap sockets are shit and your switches literally move around even while mounted unless the plate is insanely tight which none of the hot swap boards are since they're cheap and don't have very tight tolerances. Even high end hot swap boards have this issue (RAMA m60-a is a great example with its integrated plate). They're good if you can't decide what switches you like, but if you can commit to a switch, you'll have a much more solid feeling board without the hot swap

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>> No.68974955

Where the fuck are all the cherry MX clear boards at?
The only ones I can find are those small as shit ones or gigantic $140 one
Theres no happy in between TKL for around $50-75

>> No.68974956

Just go to novelkeys and look at the weights, it's mostly how heavy you want to go. Navies and jades have a heavy click bar and are very tactile, navies in particular are too tactile and heavy for me and I don't like how sharp the tactility is, I prefer a more rounded and drawn out bump. Whites pretty much feel like better cherry blues to me.

>> No.68974966

Great, thanks

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Ah okay, thank you very much anon. I've read that they're still not quite as smooth as gaterons but I think that's okay and lubing is an option. Look like I'm getting a cherry board to replace my beloved gateron that I killed with a spill

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2 days ago I have spilled water on my keyboard
I let it dry for 2 days
now when I plug it in left shift key works only the first time then it stops working until you press left ctr then it resets and works again for one press
the leds work normally when I press the key though it's just he shift functionality that is broken
what do I do, how fucked am I, and will it go away?
I don't want to open it because that voids the warranty
I already managed to get one water damaged keyboard replaced once
(actually this is the one)

and you don't have to tell me I am an idiot for drinking water near my keyboard
I get it
someone help me please

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4704 model F 400
Or you can get any custom keyboard with zealios v2

>> No.68975517

Shit, they still sell those?

>> No.68975520

cocaine bump

>> No.68975574

Pls, respond. I even got dubs too...

>> No.68975667

It's most likely pooched. Get it replaced, or buy something new. Hopefully it wasn't too expensive.

>> No.68975671

You can get new reproductions of the F 300 and F 200, but not the F 400

>> No.68975677

Typical Ducky user.

>> No.68975679

Very edgy

>> No.68975685

Just use your eyes. Like how hard is it to know if the chinks are lying about a set?

>> No.68975688

I have browns. I don't like them. They're too light to be tactile so they end up feeling like linears with shit underneath them.

>> No.68975691

"Look at me Mom, I'm a really fast typer - even though I type like a retard!"

>> No.68975734

Maybe. Some really do like them a lot better than reds for typing.

>> No.68975913

My typing is fastest, more efficient and overal better than yours so technically I don't type like a neanderthal.
In fact you're the unevolved ape here since you use a less efficient and slower typing.

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>I'm mad because a retard can type faster than me

>> No.68976001
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Feels pretty damn solid to me. It's not like I can try it side-by-side, though. Still new so time will tell. If it doesn't work out I'll be out 30 bucks and the labor of swapping switches the traditional way.

>> No.68976004

My technique looks graceful, your technique looks (and is) sloppy.

>> No.68976015

Not for me. I like to buy cheaper boards so I have more variety of switches to play with.

>> No.68976028

LOL that's why hotswap keyboards exist

>> No.68976038

Too inconvenient.

>> No.68976078


>> No.68976081

I bet my technique looks more graceful than yours. And it's also more efficient and faster.

>> No.68976149

anyone here tried ortholinear? daily driver?
i'm planning a board at the moment which i'm considering ortho
i don't mind spending a lot of time relearning, but i don't want it to be slower/uncomfortable after all that work

>> No.68976236

If it's staggared then yeah, but columnar stagger hotswap keyboards are literally the best there is

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the pcb isn't screwed into the case yet so the plate isn't properly in place but is this normal? is the plate supposed to kind of lie on top of the stab wire?

>> No.68976424

For long periods of typing time I bet I could beat you out. Quite simply, my fingers don't get tired because there is minimal movement.

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another pic
is a plate supposed to lie like this before screwing the pcb into the case?

>> No.68976498

Yeah, I was wondering.

Looks like I'm SOL when it comes to non-soft non-linear switches in the EU, anyway.

>> No.68976499

Can you please give me a good specific example? Maybe a split example too? If I don't have to solder, I could build one. Thanks.

>> No.68976709

Yes, the plate is held in place by the soldered switches. When you solder, make sure your switches are flush with the pcb so everything is even

>> No.68976764

How do you guys feel about Matias switches?

>> No.68976783

Look at the holes, that board uses Kailh hotswap sockets.

>> No.68976870

The plate is still held in place by mounting the switches

>> No.68977035

yeah it's a hotswap board but I guess the principle is the same.
so do I want the plate to be even horizontally when the switches are in? because there's a little wiggle room between the pcb and the middle part of the switch that keeps the plate in place and I can either press down the plate so it's flush with the pcb (but then it's not even because of the stabilizers) or do I want the plate hitting the middle part of the switch instead of sitting flush with the pcb so it's completely even?

>> No.68977080

You want the switch to clip into the plate as far down as possible.

>> No.68977135

that's a given but even when the switch is in there's a few mm of room between the middle part of the switch that keeps the plate in and the pcb
I can either press the plate down a bit so it's flush with the pcb or leave it as it is so the plate is completely even horizontally. maybe this is a peculiarity of a pc material plate because I'd assume aluminium isn't that flexible

>> No.68977385

it looks like it weight 10kg

>> No.68977403

You can still buy a F107 in good condition for around 350 tho

>> No.68977415

More like 10lbs

>> No.68977760
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Does anyone here use Cherry Mx Blues? I've never tried them out but they look really satisfying and fun as far as cherry and cherry clone switches go. I also never see them mentioned here.

I really want to try them out by flatmate has already said that she can hear me type at night with gateron reds, I'm worried that Cherry Mx Blues will bother her even when it's daytime.

>> No.68977876

>she can hear me type at night with gateron reds
Yeah, no, stay far away from blues. Cherry blues used to be the go-to clickies but now better options are out like kailh box.

>> No.68977953

Post flatmate's feet.

>> No.68977980

Question, how does Logitech do it with their wireless mechanical keyboard?

<1ms latency
Nearly 2 years of battery life on standard double AA battery.

My old logitech wireless mouse is also amazing at wireless battery life while still having excellent low-latency response .

>> No.68977983

Post flatmate's feet.

>> No.68978020

>how does Logitech do it with their wireless mechanical keyboard
simple, they don't

>> No.68978359

What are the chances that I find Cherry MX Blacks unbearably hard to type on?

Gateron Blacks felt perfect to type on but I killed my only board with Gat Blacks and apperently the new Cherry MX Blacks are really good.

>> No.68978679

I bet I could not only beat you in speed but also on stamina.

>> No.68978739

- Cherry MX red
- Doubleshot PBT
- tenkeyless
Give me some recommendations, not against any particular brand or color.

>> No.68978791

Ducky One 2 TKL PBT, CM Masterkeys S PBT, Leopold FC750R PD

>> No.68978801

>CM Masterkeys S PBT
Already looked for that one. The tenkeyless is sold out everywhere I looked otherwise I'd have it already.

>> No.68978813

i think i fucked up, i soldered the diodes into each other instead of connecting them into a main line, will they keyboard still work or should i redo it?


instead of:


>> No.68978820

Leopold makes the best stock keyboards
mechanicalkeyboards.com has some
Next would be Ducky

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Just got mine restored and up and running yesterday. Tried to keep it as original as possible since it was in pretty good shape already.

>> No.68978835


>> No.68978865

It seems to work now as it slowly returned to it's normal functioning
Not sure if it's related to the fact it's been drying upside down
Well, I hope the issue doesn't come back after warranty expires

>> No.68978868

So let's say I wanted to change the color of my keyboard's chasis, what would be the best way of going about this?

What in particular makes one prebuilt better than another? Better QC or something?

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You fucked up the foam. I did the same thing on mine, but I don't care all that much since it still feels great to type on. Now I'm just waiting for eclipse to ship my keycaps.

>> No.68978873

There's those other two, and also the Varmilo VA87M/VA88M (same board, just one is ANSI and the other's ISO)

>> No.68978883

Better build quality. If you don't plan on modding your keyboard then Leopold is the way to go since they already use the best plastics.

>> No.68978884

Reds aren't in stock, think I'd notice a difference with the Blacks for gaymen?

>> No.68978888

No? what no! omeigud so its it fine?

>> No.68978896

They're ~15g heavier so who knows. Personally I prefer blacks over reds

>> No.68978909

>You fucked up the foam.
No sir. That's the original foam and it's still good. If anyone fucked it up, it was IBM when they assembled it.

>> No.68978910


>> No.68978922

>original foam
wew lad, that's a pile of sludge by now and it explains why it looks so bad

>> No.68978946

No. I looked at it and it was fine. My old beamspring still had good foam too. They don't always break down and melt. This is the same stuff that was in my 3178 F as well.

>> No.68978990

Chech for silvers or silent reds if you want a light switch and can't get regular reds.

>> No.68979049

Just ordered the two tone white with blacks. Seems to be what I'm looking for

>> No.68979093

Though I should follow that up in saying a bunch of my labels are wonky as hell on the relegendables and that's entirely my poor hand cutting and rushing. But that's just temporary until the new caps come out right?

>> No.68979201

but it looks so clean and i don't think that a diode is gona fail on me anon, also i don't trust you

>> No.68979289

He means the electrical circuit won't work. The diodes effectively segregate each switch into it's own unique electrical cell. By wiring all the diodes in series, you fucked that up.

>> No.68979428

but i just checked and the voltage is fine even at 10 in a row... are my diodes magical?

>> No.68979459

The diodes all wired in series on the same row means the controller pulse won't be able to differentiate keys on the row. Everything is gonna ghost like a motherfucker. You're at 1KRO like if you had just used pure wire and no diodes instead of NKRO.

>> No.68979548

im just going to keep on for research purposes.

>> No.68979579

also my typewriter has 1KRO i don't mind it

>> No.68979662

I've never had a mechanical keyboard, but I have an x230. I like the keyboard, it feels nice and I really like the trackpoint. How does a mechanical keyboard compare?

>> No.68979678

whats a good mechanical keyboard to get if i want something that has a white case and white keycaps but black letters on the keycaps?

>> No.68979687

Look up the kbdfans store. They offer preassembled mechs with various colors for the cases. You can also look the keycaps on there or on other stores, something like what you want shouldn't be hard to find.

>> No.68979917

if you're gonna go alps, might as well get real ones.

>> No.68979974


>> No.68980026
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>"people" like this found their way onto /g/

>> No.68980032

dont those have the lock lights under the keycaps?

>> No.68980035

>try to save document
>keyboard stops working and soft-locks
well I hope it has good switches at least

>> No.68980047

depends on which model you get

>> No.68980596

Best modular fullsize?

>> No.68980611

>using keyboard shortcuts

>> No.68980684

Tipro makes the cheapest modular keyboards you can get even if they only come in MX blacks. There are some meme Korean customs, but you can buy like 5 Tirpos for the cost of one of those

>> No.68980706

>even if they only come in MX blacks
what? did you misunderstand my post somehow? i meant modular keyboards that allow you to change the switches. or did you mean they come with mx blacks by default? in which case can I buy a barebones one without switches installed?

>> No.68980724

>i meant modular keyboards that allow you to change the switches.
Those are generally called 'hotswap' boards. Get a gmmk, zhuque, GK61, etc.

>> No.68980730

Oh you meant hotswap keyboards. Tipro makes modular keyboards and they aren't hotswappable

>> No.68980745

ah, alright, thanks
any of these have drivers/manager programs that work with gnu/linux? for things such as rgb control

>> No.68980793

New Thread!

>> No.68981265

how is 60% cringe? Not only does it look the best but i can use my arrow keys while typing without moving my hands off the main keys

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>> No.68981350

you dont know what youre missing out on. I dont have to move my hands needlessly. The only thing i really lose is num pad but if you really need one you can just get one separately

>> No.68981362

and what about the keys such as delete? let me guess you just right click and it takes 6 seconds longer but at least you don't have to move your hands needlessly

>> No.68981388

Do you even function layers bro

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