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>> No.68588538


what's going on here

>> No.68588552

I'll tell you later

>> No.68588570

Some would say autism but I think it's good old schizophrenia.

>> No.68588572

insulating wire to reduce artifacts

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>> No.68588722

Hissss hissssd

>> No.68588976

Are monster cables any good for audio and coax?

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Audiophiles are mentally challenged.

>> No.68588989


>tfw audio slugs to reduce my background noise

>> No.68588990

The cable makes all the difference. It feels like your ears have never been opened before. The sound is clear, warm, yet has all the highs. You can feel the music in ways that you cannot otherwise.

>protip: it is bullshit

>> No.68589035


I thought making them look like snakes was supposed to reduce hiss?

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Reminder that audiophiles vote democrat

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>> No.68589150

What's the point of all that shit if the last foot or so is just like a normal cable? What, in their minds, do they think it achieves?

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>> No.68589161

i run my audio cable right next to the power cable
fite me

>> No.68589167

That's a good damn fire hazard.

>> No.68589179

>resistance is highest at connections
>add several connections to connect your dumb-ass copper slug
this is just beyond retarded. I bet my wires are objectively superior and it's just banana plugs soldered to 2.5 mm2 stranded pure copper wire.

>> No.68589201

Audiophiles are basically living evidence that you can be addicted to placebo. I doubt even they know what these things are supposed to achieve. Usually it's marketed as having better shielding or some shit, or isolating signals, but they don't really care. They are literally chasing some nonexistent high of having the absolute best or purest or whatever-the-fuck sound at any cost, much like a crack-head chases that first, super-intense high.

Except higher-quality crack actually usually exists.

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>> No.68589212

Not any better than cheaper cables. Really just get something made out of a decently conductive material like copper and you'll be fine.

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in room with 15 deg off listening position, no idea where the on axis is... basically that, but flatish to 21khz

>> No.68589231

12 awg oxygen free copper is where its at. you can get cheap rolls on monoprice.

even big subs used at events use speakon cables, which internally are 2 pairs of 12ga wire... so at most a sub will be a dual voice coil with 12ga on each coil. (its what i use on my 18", see pics above)

>> No.68589233

Why not use shorter wires?

>> No.68589237

Aren't those cable raisers retarded expensive?

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>> No.68589254

because the cable length envelopes the sound to its maximum after a minimum distance achieved

>> No.68589303

Don't the naked contacts generate more noise than you could possibly hope to reduce with your python?

>> No.68589337

I use onboard sound with no DAP and my cables are on the floor and all tangled together in a mess with my computer power and everything else.

>> No.68589353

no, why would you even think that. terminals can never be prone to EMS as much as cables do because cables actually need isolation. but not so you can short yourself everytime to the amp but to make your sound more pure

>> No.68589372

Can these audiocuck boomers even hear the frequencies they invest thousands of bucks into?

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>> No.68589494

wtf is even in that bundle
>unironically wearing tims

>> No.68589601

and they are ironic

>> No.68589618

does anyone have the comic and the picture of the speakers that look like enlarged saxophones

>> No.68589642


Partly because their hearing has degraded so much with old age and abuse, but mostly because there's absolutely no audible difference.

>> No.68589683

Can the human ear actually hear the difference or are audiophiles just retarded?

>> No.68589688

It's obviously a joke
>random headphones in there

>> No.68589734

Yeah, just go and plug that into a home outlet.

>> No.68589743

Was invited to some birthday and there was an older guy who eventually got on a rant about the pleasures of being an audiophile and how much he spent on his stereo or whatever. Asked at some point if getting awesome headphones wouldn't be cheaper but better as well and he went like .... uhm, ah... I-I just like to bath in the sound.

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I want to see a documentary showing the everyday lives of audiophiles. Everything EXCEPT the sound related parts. I want to see them go to the barber, return something at a store, deal with bad traffic, eat a meal in a restaurant, etc.

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This thread makes me think of snakes after a big meal

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>> No.68589788

Someone call Louis Theroux. Call it, Twilight of the Audiophiles.

>> No.68589868

That depends on devices compared.
Between $2 headphones that you get with your $100 Chinese phone and proper $80-200 ones? Definitely — been there, done that.
Between $200 and $1000 high-end headphones? There is, but not as big in example above, not even close.
Now, is there any audible difference between $2500 and $5000 cable? No way in hell.

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All that insulation will never get rid of that EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Post the whole thing already, faggot.

>> No.68589911

I get that but then I'm more like actually refering to the frequenzy range of the human ear. I'd reckon anything beyond 192 kbit is bullshit and it doesn't matter if you use $1 headphones or $10,000. At what level to they even record songs at, let alone what's the quality of the stuff they actually distribute. Vinyl doesn't have that quality sure as fuck so why hook up like $100,000 speakers to a glorified gramophone?

>> No.68589936

Is audiophile the most autistic hobby ever?

>> No.68589949

I really would like to do double blind studies on audiophiles to see if they actually hear a difference. Put a sack over their heads and roll them into a room where they can see the set up and play music to them.

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ham radio is pretty high on the list too. Like most of those people don't build or experiment with anything, it's just about buying most expensive stuff.

>> No.68589957

No, there's boomers who collect coins, caps, postal stamps....

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>> No.68589977

The yamaha nx-n500 are on special for $500 aud right now. I currently hace a set of hs8 but was considering these for my bedroom rather than my studio (or even my tv). Reckon its worth the price? A pair of hs5 would be $460 aud or so here, and $600 aud for the hs7

>> No.68589985

What can you actually do with a ham radio besides voice chat and listening to numbers stations?

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If stray capacitance is a problem with your low-voltage cables I'd be worried about the conductivity of your floor more than the quality of your audio.

>> No.68590000

I collect coins (old silver and gold ones, pre-1800) pretty non-autistically. They're nice and tend to only gain value.

>> No.68590007

>spend 10000 on cables
>listen to youtube rips of house music

>> No.68590008

If these idiots really wanted clean AC they'd have AC-to-flywheel-to-AC converters or AC-DC-AC converters. Weird cables don't make any difference.

>> No.68590023

Why do my speakers make a slight hiss? The tweeter has a high pitch hiss and the woofer a lower one. It happens without any input so id assume its something to do with the power or grounding? Even when just ones plugged in directly to the wall

>> No.68590041

I'd be worried about the general electro-magnetic interference. The best thing would be to build your living room in an actual faraday cage with a little faraday cage insight housing the stereo.

>> No.68590051

>things nobody does

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R8 my audiophile setup.
The earbuds are samsungs from my previous phone, they're very crisp and have no buzzing.

>> No.68590081

i want to give you aids

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>> No.68590136

Youtube plays just fine, no EEEEE here.

>> No.68590146

Oh don't worry, you'll get it, and it'll be in hardware you cannot fix or replace.

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Audiophiles have the same brain structure you do. You are susceptible to the same manipulative practices and you fall for them regularly without realizing it.

A documentary like
wants would be boring. It'd just be people going about their unremarkable lives, probably making mostly rational decisions. Audiophiles are wrong, but they aren't abnormal. That's the problem.
Science gives us the capacity for progress but not the guarantee. "Rational" audio holds little allure for most people because it's been stagnant for decades. Most products showing real progress just get shot down under suspicion of being manipulative, while actual manipulative shit offers people what your derision can't: a hobby and a sense of belonging.

You are gatekeeping for the audiophiles without you (or them) realizing it, and lazy companies reap the reward.

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>> No.68590456

She looks like she'll be hot as fuck growing up. Of course she'll be more than accepted, nigger.

>> No.68590489

that looks really cool, what model is it? I'd love to learn more but tineye has failed me

>> No.68590494

>hot as fuck
i will disagree with you completely and not respect your opinion

>> No.68590655

i don't get it. why use raisers and also have a super generic ~200$ h/k subwoofer

>> No.68590725

You need to buy this $5000 amp/pre-amp/dac combo and these $2000 cables to get rid of that dude.

>> No.68590898

It's vibrations. What you need is something like a rubber mat ontop of a board that can absorb them. Alternatively you could drill a hole into your ceiling and hang the whole setup on one of those springs used for punching bags and hammrocks.

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Is this actually a python thread in disguise?

>> No.68590921

Because electrons fall off on sharp corners, duh!

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>> No.68590936

>audio snakes to remove hissing

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>> No.68590991


Symptoms of brain damage thread

>> No.68591003

If this was the US he'd get shot dead after someone assumes he's carrying a bomb

>> No.68591011

Thinking about it maybe there should be like long curves and spins that function like a gentle yet natural movement that doesn't disturb the audio flow while artefacts get filtered out by the spinning action because of the less dense data packets.

>> No.68591027

Yeah, but what about rotational velocidensity?

>> No.68591047

For these audiophiles who does not know the difference between lossless and lossy? Don't be surprised.

>> No.68591050

You do multiple spins in opposing directions to create opposing velocidensity that cancels itself out.

>> No.68591143

Icom IC-7850 50th anniversary edition

>> No.68591216

Those things have historical and cultural context, I don't mind people spending absurd amount on their audio equipment but I'm confident to say that 90% of them are musically pleb who listen to equipment and not the music.

>> No.68592048

That's a washing machine.

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Looks interesting!
I have no idea what this is:
These are sadly only in Swedish:
Also, Sweden is the best Audiophile country
Use star-quad geometry cables for starters.
Grado, not even once

Back in the day, there was a video on YouTube called "Greek Audiophile" with interviews of Greek Audiophiles. Sadly I can't find the original video but I can find two extra parts from the video:

>> No.68592201

So autism then, I bet none of those cunts can play an instrument.

>> No.68592223

makes sense. only niggers download music in flac instead of superior 96k mp3.

>> No.68592262

>not using your washing machine as a subwoofer

>> No.68592322

>So autism then
Well functioning members in our society
>I bet none of those cunts can play an instrument
Why does it matter?

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>> No.68592420

I saw same cables attached to the cheapest irons.

>> No.68592421

>Why does it matter?
It matters because audiophiles listen to equipments, not music.

>> No.68592437

no step on snek

>> No.68592440

You don't have to be a director or actor to enjoy the movie, right? Or be a writer to find a book good?

>> No.68592451

mental illness

>> No.68592457

>It matters because audiophiles listen to equipments, not music.
Why does it matter? What if I only listen to electronic music made with computers instead of instruments?

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Ah, Entreq. One of Swedens finest audiophile-brands. Wooden connectors on their cables for a more neutral sound, makes total sense.

>> No.68592509

The electrical field in the wires extends out of the cable for a distance, (in most cable designs).
If you have a special meter which can measure such fields, you can 'see' them around cheap powercords, and cheaper speaker cables (even plenty of expensive ones)
You do not want that field to be interacting with something just on one side, since it will mess it up
Air is a GREAT insulator, and a great place to run a cable so the field is not messed with.
The cable riser can lift the cable into all air surrounding it, and cause the least damage too the field.
The very best idea for cable risers is to suspend the cable via thin threads from above.

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What on earth is this? I get the lifters, the amp and the distribution block, but what are those black boxes with 4 cables running between them?

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Why does it say Tesla PowerCell on the box?

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Don't you power your system with a battery-pack?

>> No.68592713

I'm surprised Sony didn't make a proprietary card for le bremium sound

>> No.68592729

Nope, but you don't need to spend absurd amount of snake oil to enjoy music right? Also reread my post "audiophiles listen to equipments, not music."

>> No.68592735

>literal snake oil

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Is she our girl?

>> No.68592792

Post magic audio rocks.

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>Nope, but you don't need to spend absurd amount of snake oil to enjoy music right?
No, I agree with you on that. How enjoyable music is depends a lot on the circumstances. But to be able to enjoy it alone in your chair/sofa demands a good system that tends to be on the pricey side(note, not snakeoil).
Also reread my post "audiophiles listen to equipments, not music."
And I repeat myself again, why does it matter? Why is it so wrong and so bad that people have a hobby that they enjoy.

>> No.68592892

It's not wrong or bad, it's silly, irrational and pseudoscientific. It deserves to be mocked.

>> No.68592896

>But to be able to enjoy it alone in your chair/sofa demands a good system that tends to be on the pricey side
Literally any Yamaha A/V receiver from Goodwill and maybe a bluetooth add-on will sound perfect, given that it is set up correctly.
Perception to the differences high end DACs make are much harder to discern with speakers in a living room than with headphones at a desk, and even then it'll probably drive your headphones perfectly fine.

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What the heck is it? Brilliant Pebbles is a unique and comprehensive system for tuning the room and audio system based on special physical properties of highly symmetrical crystal structures. Brilliant Pebbles has been evolving since its introduction 6 years ago at the London HI Fi Show, especially the number of applications, many of which were discovered by our customers. Brilliant Pebbles addresses specific resonance control and RFI/EMI absorption problems associated with audio electronics, speakers and cables, as well as acoustic wave problems associated with the listening room boundaries and the 3-dimensional space within the boundaries. Brilliant Pebbles comprises a number of precious and semi-precious stones (crystals) selected for their effectiveness. The original glass bottles for Brilliant Pebbles have been replaced by clear zip lock bags, which have a more linear response than glass. We employ a number of highly-specialized, proprietary techniques in the preparation/assembly of Brilliant Pebbles to enhance the crystals' inherent characteristics. The fundamental operating principle of Brilliant Pebbles involves a number of atomic mechanisms in the crystals. Brilliant Pebbles will enhance the performance of your audio system so your favorite music and even your experience playing online fantasy games will become a mind blowing auditory experience.

>> No.68592934

Yeah, but I'd rather have the whole world going bankrupt from buying stupid tweaks then them joining communist parties.
>Enjoying music
Pick one

>> No.68592962

Are audiophiles the dumbest?

>> No.68592971
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Large Brilliant Pebbles
>Price $99 each.

Mini Brilliant Pebbles

New Size! - Extra Large Brilliant Pebbles

>> No.68592982

>I'd rather have the whole world going bankrupt
I know you would, schlomo.

>> No.68593000

No, audiophilia is a disease.

>> No.68593073

There's apparently digital stuff going on with it, where people are sending stuff with their computers hooked up to transmitters or something like that. I don't know the specifics, since I'm not really into it, and that's just what somebody told me. There are some people who are doing things other than talking with it though.

>> No.68593083

Cant debate those trips of truth

>> No.68593101

Particle accelerator?

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>> No.68593230

I think the word audiophile has lost its meaning

like sure making fun of cables and stuff is one thing but people also use it to make fun of people buying expensive equipment which also is just as subjective many times.

its basically guys just hating on other guys opinions of superiority of technology.

like people say people lissening to things over 320kbs is a "audiophile" now as well.

larphing at it and saying there is no gain in the extreams (there might actually be like a 0.00001% gain desu) is also used to discredit gains of buying like a 100$ thing vs a 200$ thing.

its kinda dumb in all. like obviously people talking on forums about subjective expensive things some people with the means will take it to extreams

honestly I have had experiences on the other extream where like a literally 0$ tape/cd combo player from the 90/2000s imo with a cassette sounds as good for vocals and some things as like a 20,000$ setup.

at the end of the day its just people comparing ownership to ego which is retarded so even making fun of them is dumb. and even the people saying the high end extreams are dumb are as dumb as me saying a 0$ tape/cd player sounds good. but the reality is there is actual a point to both.

>> No.68593260

also ive seen really dumb things on /g/ where people say lissening to live music is worse quality than lissening at home.

like don't you get it its about reproducing live performance.

ultimately going to a live show is how you train your ears. sure if they use electrical instruments they are limited by the speakers and stuff.

but stand up close and actually lessen to vocals and atmosfear and stuff and that's how you figure out what real good audio is.

if you are just buying 800$ dacs and shit to play some shit you downloaded and never go to gigs you are a fucking retard.

>> No.68593306

and also if you don't get why all these like 40+year old men are acting crazy about audio its because they had experiences in their teens and 20s at live shows opera etc that changed their life and they want to to recapture it.

there would be a minority that didn't have profound experiences around music in their past and are just doing it for ego and money showing shit. but imo such people wouldn't be as crazy about it as the ones that actually did.

>> No.68593311

>if you are just buying 800$ dacs and shit to play some shit you downloaded and never go to gigs you are a fucking retard.
Implying that my audio system sounds worse than a PA, jokes on you

>> No.68593324

I'm still not convinced that this is real.

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Don't forget to filter USB from the hiss

>> No.68593376


I don't get how you think this is a complicated manner.

Audiophiles are people with legit Asperger's Syndrome who have sensitive airs and thus probably do notice the 0,1% difference in sound that regular people will never notice. Just look at any audio forum or reviewer who reviews high-end audio and you will see this is a completely different person from your average joe.

Basically, if you are an audiophile there is a 99,99% chance you legit have autism.

>> No.68593400



Also, this is the same reason audiophiles cry about treble, people with autism cannot handle high frequency sounds, there ears are fragile as fuck.

You have literal autist retards crying about getting brain cancer from listening to music on DT 990's, it's fucking hilarious.

>> No.68593404

Audiophiles are duped, but they're not retarded. The only people who would do what you described is a literal billionaire who isn't actually an audiophile, just wants the most expensive thing he can buy.

Audiophiles are autistically obsessive about audio in the same way that r9k is autistically obsessive about gender relations. That's why they both believe in retarded shit like 1,000 dollar cables or onions making you into a woman.

>> No.68593423

>lissening to live music is worse quality than lissening at home.
How is it not? An album is recorded in a sterile environment without any faggot fans. I get that the experience of a live performance is way better, but its literally stupid to say that the sound quality of a concert is better (ok maybe for something like classical it might be, but definitely not for most other genres).

>> No.68593436

no you are a just a retarded neet that never goes outside.

live music sounds better than a studio if you don't believe me email a musician your brain is a incredibly powerful thing it can filter out all the background noise and focus on what is going on yes standing in a studio and lissening with your actual ears would be better but you cant do that but you can go to a live show.

>> No.68593446

also by live music im not talking about stadium shows and mainstream shit.

I mean going to local music bands and shit.

hell if you get to know them you can lissen to them practicing at home

that's how you learn shit about audio not reading spec sheets and wave graphs. you need IRL experience. go to gigs.

>> No.68593465

>Most products showing real progress just get shot down under suspicion of being manipulative,
Such as?

I might have believed that if it weren't for the fact that most audiophiles are very poor at discrimination and have low selectivity for audio gear when blindfolded. It would be naive to say that what is heard by a listener is purely a function of sound waves interacting with the ear, but these people are usually not very good at listening for the things we know can be readily heard.

>> No.68593469


This is pure concentrated mental illness.

>> No.68593475

>that's how you learn shit about audio not reading spec sheets and wave graphs
Musicians knows about music, engineers knows about audio

>> No.68593531


Probably a combination of the two, legit autism and self deception where the lines between real difference is hard to tell. I do believe audiophiles know the difference between low quality stuff and high quality better than a non-mentally ill person but probably lies a lot when it comes to things that sound fine and snake-oil that sounds fine.

>> No.68593532

>I mean going to local music bands and shit.
My local scene sucks so checkmate

>> No.68593582

no you just don't know about it dumb ass.

there is prob literally like 10 cool bands in your area you just go to one show and think it sucks and are not invited to the secret backyard shoes/scene shows in hidden locations. ask cool people you see on facebook for info.

>> No.68593597

no you a a tech faggot that doesn't want to go outside.

audio is music you fucking retard. im not saying ask the musican what they think you should buy im saying use your fucking ears and experience it IRL if you haven't done that for like 3years spending over 300$ on audio gear is retarded.

>> No.68593622

I use wireless audio.

>> No.68593633

You need a better receiver with lower noise to signal ratio.

On my computer, just getting a sound blaster card fixed the hiss.

>> No.68593662

>audio is music you fucking retard
But how well does a musician understand the physics behind audio and psyco-acoustics?
They only know how their instruments should be tuned

>> No.68593735

to hit the correct resonant frequency when the electrons bounce back and forth between the ends

>> No.68593758

You sure this belongs in an audiophile thread? Looks like something you'd find in a negro's truck.

>> No.68593834

All the biggest bass freaks I know are white. I get that everyone has heard a car with a poorly tuned woofer/port, but people with money are the ones buying multiples of 18-24"subs to fill a small room.

>> No.68594050

Trips of truth.

>> No.68594111


>-6dB dropoff at 11kHz
>flat-ish to 21kHz

Tell me how I know you like to sniff your own farts

>> No.68594133

Analog has hiss, get an usb to 6/3.5 mm dac and you are good to go.

>> No.68594175

read what I fucking said you retard.

its not about asking musicans for advice on gear its having IRL experience with audio IE SOUND which you actually need to appreciate any thing or know what's best

>> No.68594190

as in you actually going out and lessening to shit and appreciating it so you actually know what you want reproduced and how and not just buying shit to reproduce it blindly and thinking its good because its expensive and you looked at a graph and a spec sheet.

>> No.68594247

Cmon, when you go to live concert you actually listen to music, not your overpriced sound system.
How so that 50 year old songs were recorded on far worse equipment and yet you need to spend thousand to match that? It's just in your head. Tube amp, vinyls, cassettes everything is far worse than modern formats in precise sound reproduction, most of they add harmonics and distortion, yet most of audiophiles say "it sounds better, it's warm sounding etc." when in reality in far away from what it sounded like 50 years ago in studio.

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I love how they just tape them on the cables

>> No.68594316

I like music, audiophiles should be shot

>> No.68594464

>its having IRL experience with audio IE SOUND which you actually need to appreciate any thing or know what's best
I appreciate electronic music, deal with it faggot.

>> No.68594479

Is going this far necessary?

>> No.68594692

Time to undercut the market with cheap stones and bags from aliexpress.

>> No.68594739

Why not? P. T. Barnum was right, there IS a sucker born every minute. So why not make a buck on it?

>> No.68595048
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you are absolutely right about listening to live performances of ACCOUSTIC instruments to get a comparative point.

the first time i understood what the whole audiophile autism was all about was when (by chance) i got my hands on a pair of old magnepan III loudspeakers....oooh boy do i get it now!

-yes, there is a spacial/3D type of thing goin on when you close your eyes and just listen.

-you need a well produced recording, this does NOT happens with all material/music(this is why audio-autist are so picky about source recordings,mastering etc...)

-with good loudspeakers is easy to identify if something is well recorded because it will have that "spacial clarity" and it will have good dynamics others will sound just "flat" not convincing, some recordings may have good bass or good highs but that's not it, that spacial/dynamic characterystic is what really pulls you to that new level of autism.

-i'm not using expensive equipement just a lowly aiwa receiver (cx z82) and my computer as the source, regular cables, the only thing special is the magnepan speakers.

-i agree with audiophiles sadly headphones do not do the same "trick" (although i use headphones much more that my loudspeakers...)

best 5 minutes "lecture" about Hi-Fi:


example of a good recording ("folk singer" by muddy waters):


i do not consider myself an audiophile because finally i think i'm much more interested "in the music than the audio" (that's why many musician don't give a shit about all this) but the audiophile sound experience is definitely something intoxicating.

>> No.68595255



Nice man

>> No.68595407

I'm compiling a list of mid-fi speakers under $5,000. Any noteworthy omissions?

Ascend Acoustic Sierra Tower RAAL
B&W 702 S2
Focal Aria 936
GoldenEar Triton 2+
SALK Song3
SVS Ulta Tower
Martin Logan XT60

>> No.68595449

That's how it looks when audiophile tinfoilhat preppers protect their audio stuff against a nuclear blast following an EMP.
Must be terrible to get digital jitter and timing errors while Commiefornia gets blown up by a TSAR-Bomb.

>> No.68595487

something Quadral

it should shit on the rest of your list

>> No.68595573

>ham radio is pretty high on the list too. Like most of those people don't build or experiment with anything, it's just about buying most expensive stuff.
Some are such indeed, but most of the HAM radio operators are not buying the most expensive stuff.
But sure, there are autists in every hobby i guess.
There are even computer idiots that use shit like Linux, can you imagine?? It's free, but a hell of a bughsit and they still worship it like it's the best.
Pretty autistic.

>> No.68595619

Hahahahah wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.68595637

>mid-fi speakers
What does this mean?

>> No.68595668

Middle-range. Not shit, not entry level, not cream of the crop.

>> No.68595857

KEF R-series

>> No.68595966
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*sips tea as I listen to Slayer at 115db*

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This guy's favorite band.

>> No.68596016

I recorded this with my phone, sounds so spooky in person.

>> No.68596019



Eh, i'll let it pass this one time anon but next time it better be some good thrash.

>> No.68596040

I honestly can't even tell if this thread is ironic, certain fandoms are worse than others. I might just hate audiophiles more than subaru owners now.

>> No.68596068

tinnitus amplifier

>> No.68596074

cyberpunk as fuck, though

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>> No.68596169

I don’t actually listen to slayer, but I do enjoy cranking the fuck out of this. https://youtu.be/8zH2JP4LgaE

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>tfw certified assburgers and use dt770

>> No.68596393


DT 770 doesn't have the treble that DT 990 does though, maybe it would break your fragile little ears or something.

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I’m buying one next year. We madlads now.

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>> No.68596515


On second thought, don't watch videos 2 & 3. :(

>> No.68596586

Reminder that fucktards make everything political, because they have nothing relevant to say.

>> No.68596658

Technically true, but it's only significant in the MHz+ range .

>> No.68596664

Plastic sounds too hollow and metal sounds too tinny :^)

>> No.68596666

>Yeah, but I'd rather have the whole world going bankrupt from buying stupid tweaks then them joining communist parties.
false dichotomy, retard

>> No.68596684

Nah, they're like flat earthers or serial gamblers. There's absolutely no reasoning with these people no matter how much evidence is presented. They're clearly "different" (retarded).

>> No.68596698

I second this. I'm also a half black and I just want to kill myself everyday.

>> No.68596708

Because it's a Tesla powercell

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>> No.68596809

The fuck do you need DAC for if vinyl is the source? Where's phono preamp? Why cable has only single jack on each end? Where's second cable?
Anime is retarded.

>> No.68596830

tfw I know who this person is.

>> No.68596871

so are you, animeposter

>> No.68596980

I see nothing wrong apart from the mascara in the 3rd video

>> No.68597020
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>tfw about to sit back and relax to some beautiful ambient before going to bed
This is what makes everything worth it

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She alright

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can you hear me now?

>> No.68597204
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Why's the zip-tie?
Car subwoofers arent so great for home use. I like 18" pa woofers more. Had one in a huge bassreflex enclousure once, shit was a blast. Glasses were shaking in the kitchen, 3 rooms away from mine.

is it retarded?
is it fun

>> No.68597231

These dedicated stacking rubber bands are full blown autisimo. Especially when you are using 6 at a time.

>> No.68597237

This is honestly the funniest thread I've seen in a while. Thanks /g/.

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this was real kino. thanks for posting this

>> No.68597597

Meh, true for speaker and power cables. For signal cables good shielding is cruical. Unfortunately you cant see from the outside if theres proper shielding on the inside.

Oxygen free copper is utter bullcrap, normal copper is perfectly fine.
You need thicker gauge if you are actually connecting high power PA-gear. Lower power speakers don't need thick wires obviously.

Monster is good but overpriced.
I can recommend Neutrik. Pricey but high, professional quality.

>> No.68597844

What are those worms for

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>> No.68597931

Take the spice out of your sound.

>> No.68598000

Basically this. It's one thing to care about good audio, but generally when you talk about "audiophiles" you're talking about the people who straight up ignore actual scientific evidence showing them there's no difference between a $5 copper cable and their $350 kitty-litter filled garden hose that was marketed as "high end."

>> No.68598164

An interesting "scam" would be laser headphones.
Instead of a copper wire, you use fiber, and this fiber carries a laser that is powerful enough to feed the speakers.
No electricity, no crosstalk, perfect sound.

>> No.68598569

>t. audiophile

>> No.68598683

Are integrated amplifier prices a scam?

Aren't all transparent amps indistinguishable from one another? If so, why the fuck would you spend $1800 on a Hegel H90? Could someone tell the difference between a Yamaha R-S202 versus the Hegel?

Also, don't all DACs sound the same? Has anyone ever actually done an A-B blind test with them to determine this?

My recent venture into the audiophile world has gotten me thinking this, as I've seen no proof otherwise, and I'm currently convinced that the speaker design is still 97% (barring room acoustics) determinant of sound quality.

>> No.68598872

That would be the definition of transparency, that you are unable to distinguish them. A tautology.
Amplifiers designed conventionally don't impart much of a sound besides noise and clipping at the maximum current/voltage output. You can largely read the spec to see how good it is and see it benched to make sure they didn't cheat the numbers too much.
>don't all DACs sound the same
If you use a high-gain, low-noise amp with sensitive speakers, you might hear something (noise floor). Most "normal" people get DACs for inputs and features, or to suppress noise and interference that their existing integrated converters may not.
You could grandly screw up your audio DAC by trying to defy conventional approaches without a better alternative. You can also find weird DACs that are designed to alias. These types are for the weirdo audiophiles who want to toss money at things, not sensible consumer designs.
You would probably be better off with a more powerful amplifier, whether integrated or separate. I have to think that those features can be effectively had for less.
Keep in mind that a large chunk of what you pay for in hi-fi is appearances and dealer markups.

An even spatial response, a smooth sensitivity, and low distortions make the good loudspeaker.

>> No.68598955

it doesn't matter

>> No.68599016

>Hegel H90
Doesn't say anything about volume control, or the analog side of a DAC. That's what makes a difference in dacs. I'm currently masturbating to this system. https://www.psaudio.com/products/stellar-bundle/

>> No.68599027

Why would you want to remove the spice? Smdh, wh*te ""people""

>> No.68599029

The differences in integrated amps mostly come from their preamp section. Higher quality ones have lower noise floors and better implementations of the RIAA EQ curve on the phono side of things.
However, I'd much rather buy a good preamp and a nice power amp, since almost all power amps really are transparent if they meet a minimum spec. Hell, I'd say using a good preamp and only the power side of an integrated could beat a top end integrated no problem.

>> No.68599037

i like to bath in sound too. sometimes is go to hear the orchestra, or even to the movie theater to a recording of a musical performance on their several thousand dollar speaker system loud as fuck. it's great if your sound can actually shake you. not that you need to spend absurd amounts on cables or whatever, you just need a powerful speakers.

>> No.68599042

Integrated usually skimp on the power transformer. Good ones will double the power at 4 ohms vs 8. Look for that.

>> No.68599054

one would think the audiophiles would actually learn about electrical engineering, acoustics or digital signal processing. hahahaha nope

>> No.68599093

it could indeed be a ground issue. just check if your outlet and power cables are properly grounded. if it's from your computer, you might just have bad motherboard audio. those are not that bad these days but there are still some bad ones out there. the manufacturers always cheap out. i used to have one in the 90s that would hiss every time i moved my mouse. a usb audio interface would help. one time i also had a psu that caused buzzing in my usb audio devices. i don't really understand the reason for that one but i rma'd it.

>> No.68599106

>he runs his setup off unfiltered mains electricity
Just scrub your records with 10-grit sandpaper: same result in half the time. I bet you don't even moisture-balance the air in your listening room.

>> No.68599119

Everything in that picture is ugly.

>> No.68599124

I recently invested in a 400-watt ion particulate scrubber and it's amazing how deep and resonant the bass sounds without those pesky halide particles clogging the air.

>> No.68599135

the ground is lava for adults

>> No.68599147

that hegel looks nice, thanks for the name. rost looks pretty nice.

>> No.68599159

you're in a bad way if your psu and motherboard are so cheap that this thing makes a difference

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since you faggots literally can't keep /ag/ alive but will keep a audiophile meme thread alive i'll post it here
looking at getting a Denon DP-47F in the future for a new turntable

>> No.68599196

wow your phone has awesome sound

>> No.68599215

Who /iridium/ here? Finally bit the bullet and swapped out all the gold-core cabling in my rig a few months ago and I'm never going back. The degree of stability and insulation that iridium provides is unmatched - although I had a chance to try a thorium-cobalt alloy solid-core connector at this year's AudiCon and the smooth, buttery harmonics are to die for (even if the insulative properties are noticeably weaker than iridium, or even gold (!)). I might switch again once the price comes down, but for now I'm happy.

>> No.68599230

sounds fine in theory, but people already can not tell between the best and worst possible copper speaker cables.

>> No.68599258

i use firefox

>> No.68599259

It's not really a good enough turntable to be ripping for what.cd or the like - so why?

>> No.68599297

Because I want a higher quality turntable than the one I have now.
>It's not really a good enough turntable
I'm not going to be ripping any music off my records any time soon.

>> No.68599335

>I'm not going to be ripping any music off my records any time soon.
Then why are you using a turntable at all?

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To listen to music you spastic

>> No.68599355

Audiophiles certainly would, with their perfect golden ears(tm).

>> No.68599361

Why not just listen to files on your computer like a regular person?
Why specifically a turntable?

>> No.68599365

Right? I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure most floor materials are decent insulators by themselves.

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>Why not just listen to files on your computer like a regular person?
I already do.
>Why specifically a turntable?
Because I like to listen to records as well and have a collection I'm amassing on top of a hi-fi system I'm building.

>> No.68599377
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dude has some big ears

>> No.68599389

So what you're saying is, you're an audiophool.
You are the reason we make threads like this, to laugh at YOU.

>> No.68599402

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with vibrations from the floor affecting the cable (how?)
Audiophiles truly are 'special'

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>So what you're saying is, you're an audiophool.
>You are the reason we make threads like this, to laugh at YOU.
Whatever you say, anon.

>> No.68599457

>all that bulk
>the internal wires can clearly be seen running along the outside right under the duct tape
>cable insulation appears to be wadded up socks

>> No.68599494

>Spend thousands of dollars in cables.
>sit the speakers in cheap chairs

>> No.68599509

he uses plastic so the equipment doesn't get grounded (creating more noise)

>> No.68599545

Maybe in yuropooria, but here in the US they build a lot of their own stuff.

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hey i saw that episode of Freakazoid

>> No.68600165


dude get a room

>> No.68600227

Guaranteed boomers, waste crazy money

>> No.68600242

I'm pretty sure getting your ears cleaned out professionally will make a lot larger difference than shit like this.

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In awe at the size of this lad.

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I use LS50s and an SVS sub, running off a JDSLabs The Element and a Crown XLS1002 and tweaked with a MiniDSP to taste. Everything is hooked up with basic bitch RCAs and Monoprice speaker wire. How do I rate on the audiophile scale?

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remember "shock-absorbing mechanism"?

>> No.68600686

Those were actually a thing for disc based systems, though.

>> No.68600738

Heh, I have some of those.
They don't have any differences compared to other MDs, the "shock absortion mechanism" is a fucking painted contour that's texturized to feel like rubber, but it's just paint.
But again, it's kind of pointless to have a shock absortion mechanism on a format that takes less than 30 seconds to load 5 minute chunks of data into the player's memory.
Yes, but these minidiscs are just regular ones. Minidisc has such protection built into the spec itself, and that's why they could get away with this marketing tactic.

>> No.68600768

they didn't do shit tho
whole "system" was some painted lines

>> No.68600780
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I miss my TDK Bit Club minidiscs, they were aesthetic as fuck.
>Gave away my NetMD player and discs when I got an iPod Mini back in the day
I'd be more pissed if I wouldn't have to use SonicStage for everything...does that even run on Windows 10?

>> No.68600985

Why tape some puny pebbles when you can tape holy cross?

>> No.68601265

>Roller Coaster Tycoon 3: VR Edition

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man if I was that guy I'd be way too busy fucking my hot daughter and hearing her moans to be listening to music.

>> No.68602666

came here for the snek posts, found only one
what happened to /g/?
thicc snek

>> No.68602713

Friend's hooking me up with some cheap used KEF LS50s.

What's a good power amp to go with it?

I already have preamp and minidsp crossover to sub.

>> No.68603337

You clearly don't know how this market works. If you sold these for $10 nobody would buy them.

>> No.68603375

Well many bands can't perform live for shit. Otherwise you are right, live performance can be really good. Often it has much more dynamic range than a studio recording.

>> No.68604287

I'm not an audiophile but have hd800's and an audio gd dac/amp

>> No.68605313

Not going to defend crazy audiophiles, but there is definitely a difference between something like 192bit vs anything higher.
I personally set it to 224 vbr or something like that in '99 and then went to 320bit when i had to get my ears cleaned.

Went deaf for like a day because my ears finally clogged themselves with shit.
After my doctor used a giant syringe to clean my ears out, dumping out crusty rocks out, i was able to hear the air move around inside a closed room from people just moving around. It was like the air and my hair was scraping against my ears. Shit was surreal.
It's basically like getting glasses after finding out that your vision wasn't 20/20, where the world is suddenly clear and bolder than you thought it was.

Apparently my nasty earwax protected my hearing into my 20s so that i could appreciate music better and i started switching higher end stuff. There is definitely diminishing returns though, especially with higher end headphones, where shit just starts sounding different instead of better. Lossless isn't/wasn't worth it, but SACD is nicer. I've heard SACD is only better because of the remastering, but it's hard to compare, as that shit is expensive and basically dead.

>> No.68605878

or look around online. Anything slinging clean power will do the job. I mean, it kinda depends on what duty they'll be pulling (near-field on a desk, whole room for home theater, etc). They're can be easy to power, but they can take quite a bit. I wouldn't go below 50w into 8Ω, or over 250 into 8Ω.

>> No.68607622

My nigga

>> No.68607661

dummy thicc

>> No.68607746

I have a ham radio license and I use it for serial radios, they're pretty cool, can send text from one computer to another 3 blocks away without a central access point.


have to have a license in the US to transmit on 433mhz

>> No.68607787

for PREMIUM(TM) sound

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>> No.68608229

my cheap logitech x140s died after 10 or so years, and I decided to get something decent lose to 100$

friend suggested these https://www.alesis.com/products/view/elevate-5-mkii

anyone have them to give an opinion?

>> No.68608376

>shitty bookshelves
who cares

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>> No.68608492
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First time on /g/, not sure where to post this but it's an audio question so. . . .

I'm about 90% deaf from gunfire. I can't hear shit. In particular, I can't hear mosquitoes. My eyesight is also constantly changing because of diabetes so it's hard to spot them.

How sensitive of a microphone would I need to be able to detect mosquitos? With a four-microphone tetrahedral setup, how difficult would it be to give a rough location?

I've been battling one for three days now and it's fucking miserable. It's in my apartment, I've almost killed it several times but my goddamned electric mosquito rackets BOTH turned out to have low charges. I couldn't tell at first whether I was missing it (eyesight) or what, but I should have absolutely destroyed it when I spotted it on a curtain and it just flew right through racket number two.

All I want is to be able to know when one is in my apartment (one giant room loft style), or better yet have some indication of WHERE it is so that I can go after it.

Would a basic laptop microphone be sufficient for detection? Or would I need some sort of $20,000 high end studio microphone?

Anyone know of existing software that can detect the audio signature of a flying mosquito? I know there are glass-break sensors that work by listening for the unique sound.

HEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!! This little bastard bites constantly and itches like crazy.

>> No.68608633

It's called the magnetic field and thats why you buy nice, insulated cables. Of course, there's basically no way stray magnetic fields will affect electricity flow in a shielded cable unless you're talking about enough magnetic inductance to burn through said cable

Electricity creates magnetic fields, not the other way around(unless you're moving, which isn't what we're talking about), and that fundamental misunderstanding has cost stupid people a lot of money

>> No.68608666

is there any point to doing any of this when 99% of the time you are listening to top QUALITY audio off youtube or spotify?

>> No.68608704

Mosquitoes only live for like a day dude

>> No.68608752

Mosquitos are weeks. Mayflies are 24 hours or less

>> No.68609145

>converting old washing machine into subwoofer
you're onto something

>> No.68609656
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I'm thinking to rig a poorfag audiophile setup.
Amp will be the based NAD 3020 (I will recap it, I can do the job), what pair of speakers would be a nice pick? Around €400, new or used.

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>> No.68611408

Anyone has that picture with autism grade hi-fi equipment connected to an extremely degraded power line?

>> No.68611518

>>I bet my wires are objectively superior and it's just banana plugs soldered to 2.5 mm2 stranded pure copper wire.
>Implying audiophile connectors are not copper cables welded to copper connectors for optimal transmission

>> No.68611569

Shouldn't audiophiles be OK with wireless audio? At least in theory

>> No.68611720

5G WiFi is Ok

>> No.68611788

this actually looks nice, but the amount of space wasted is cringy
>Those cables only would make sense when he tries to cover big distances

recommend watching this video

>> No.68611915
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Hey nerds, what's the best set of computer speakers for $250 or less?

>> No.68611951

Might as well cure cement in your ears, Gramps. If you aren't giving yourself deep-ear tissue massage every morning, why bother listening to ANY sound

>> No.68612252
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That's a good choice. McIntosh is one of those companies that actually earned their reputation and doesn't dive into bullshit gimmics. Granted some of their gear is marketed at folks who fall for the gimmics but the designs are specific and sound. If they felt you needed shielded power cables and 6 inch thick speaker wires they'd make em. They don't nor do they recommend any of it.

>> No.68612847
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I'm using CUETools to split some .flacs into separate files. This is the accuracy log.

What does "rip accurate (20/44)" mean, for example? "confidence 77"?
If the splitting is inaccurate, is it noticeable? If it's just the audio displaced by a few milliseconds in the beginning or something, then I don't give a shit - but I don't know what I'm looking at here.

>> No.68612927

That is an impressive setup.

>> No.68613782

All that money spent on amps and with a shitty turntable and okay floor standers

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>> No.68614022
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>mfw my 20 year old AC ruins the quality of all audio equipment within 5 square mile every time it kicks on

>> No.68614699
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It doesn't...but don't tell the people buying those sneks.

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>> No.68615416

any decent deals on stereo receivers for black friday?

>> No.68615475

Explain what? That McIntosh 275 retails for over 5000 alone and the one under it is probably just as much

>> No.68616049

What was the longest buffer MD Walkman could achieve?

>> No.68616274

is this the same anime where the other "headphone" webm comes from?

>> No.68616400
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Anybody care about Balanced?

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