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>Assemble a part list
https://pcpartpicker.com/
>Learn how to build a PC
Search youtube for a build guide for your socket
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs
https://pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
>Don't use Speccy, you retard. Use HWinfo, SIV, etc.

Overclocking
>Use PBO on Ryzen. Legacy overclocking is defunct on Ryzen 2#00X CPUs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3fsVk9Sss

CPUs
>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

Motherboards
>Only Z300 series Intel boards can utilize fast memory

RAM
>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
1080p
>RX 570/580 /w Freesync or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
1440p
>Vega 56 /w Freesync, 1070Ti if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
2160p(4K)
>Titan V
OpenCL work
>Vega 64

Storage
>Consider StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

Monitors
>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING

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>> No.66957849
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66957849

Rate my $2000 CAD High-End build before i pull the trigger

>> No.66957914
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66957914

Want to upgrade this 2013 build.
Will still use my case, drive, cooler (212 evo), gpu, and the same monitor.
So only want to upgrade the motherboard, cpu, and ram. Have a budget of 300 - 400 british bongs.

>> No.66957922

>>66957914
Will also use my tx850 power supply.

>> No.66957962

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/byfQGG


CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.19 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£69.74 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£119.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Dark Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£218.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£76.79 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (£364.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case (£75.59 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£91.70 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £1239.71

Planning to play new 1080p games +60FPS. Only for gaming and general usage. Budget is £1,300. I was thinking of getting the S340 Mid Tower Case instead but wasn't too sure. Thank you.

>> No.66958026

>>66957914
PCPartPicker part list:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor (£166.79 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£44.25 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£73.19 @ Aria PC)
Total: £284.23

>> No.66958040

>>66957914
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Kk8bCb

>> No.66958047

I need to build a computer for my father:
>he uses a 4K Monitor
>most of the time photoshop and facebook
>maybe lightroom
>maybe lossy compression of several GB of 4K videos per month
>60h of uptime per week
>should be silent to make it more expensive
>He is a heavy smoker and he never cleans his pc
>Budget: It's better when it's expensive because this purchase is deductible from income tax.
What should I buy/build ?

>> No.66958057

>>66958026
>single channel ram

Get 2 sticks in dual channel or you could suffer from stutters and shit in games.

>> No.66958059

>>66957914
I'd get this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6yQcRJ
Or a 2600, a B450-A Pro (weaker VRMs) or a B450 Gaming Pro Carbon and a 2x8GB B-Die kit (it'll overclock more than the other kit)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx

>> No.66958062

>>66957849
I like that the colours of the RAM/SSD/case/Monitor match

>> No.66958072

>>66957849

forgot to mention, im going with 16GB 14 Cas ram, getting 2 extra fans, a case with more airflow [ similar aesthetic ] but i prefer the g2 PSU over the g3 since the extra space it saves is not necessary

>> No.66958115

>>66958057
I will eventually buy another stick of 8gb ram, so I'll use 16gb @ 2x8.

>> No.66958152

>>66957849
144hz is really nice and fluid, you will cum several times a day.
Jesus, 570 bucks for a 1070, I bought the founders edition 1080 Ti for 769, todays GPU pricing is a joke.
Buy 1TB SSD instead of 0,5 TB SSD and 1 TB HDD.
If you are not overclocking go straight for the Fractal R6 for a more silent computing experience.

>> No.66958160

>>66957962
Looks great but I'd avoid ACX GPUs from EVGA, they were prone to cause housefires

>> No.66958219

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VRCLHYS
Anyone got strong opinions on this monitor? Planning to buy it since it fits my needs but I'd rather ask around first
gonna be using it for gaming, usually ~100-110Hz, using a 1080

>> No.66958229

>>66957914
>>66958115
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.19 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£76.50 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£147.59 @ Aria PC)
Total: £411.28

>> No.66958264

>>66958047
4K video = atleast GTX 1060 (for CUDA and NVENC) with ryzen 2700.
Cheapest 400 series mobo you can find.
Ram has to be atleast 3000mhz since ryzen likes fast ram.
Get Fractal case for silence and they have very good dust filters for smokers, also dont go with white case it will turn yellow
.. or Plan B:
Buy vaping gear for your dad to make him quit smoking cigarettes.

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66958291

Is this sensible? Should I lay it on its side? Should I swap the bottom fan and the lower side panel fan?
All inputs are filtered. Side panel fans are 140mm, bottom fan is 140mm low profile because of PSU cables. All others are 120mm.
First time build, pls be gentle.

>> No.66958297

>GPU prices are falling
>ram prices are not
What the fuck is going on?

>> No.66958309

>>66958291
looks like a kino setup

>> No.66958323

Acer Veriton M4630G:

i7-4770
(2+2)+4Gb DDR3 1600 MHz
Sata 7.2K Rpm
970 Strix

(Original) Delta Electronics 350w 80+Bronze
(New) Corsair CX550m 80+ Bronze

Plug both power supplies into a surge suppressor to sync the boot

Pc powers on when i flip the switch, both psu starts with no problem, cpu fan spins, strix led goes on and fans start up but cease movement after a few seconds

The power button from the front panel stays blue the whole time

It doesn't turn off unless i cut the power from the source

it doesn't show anything on the monitor and peripherals doesn't turn on either

Did the bios *beep* test just getting a long one, searching it the only answer i get is that "POST has passed all tests"

I have no idea what should i do now pls help ;_;

>> No.66958420

take out all the memory sticks and try to boot with only one.

>> No.66958443

>>66957849
How much is that in real dollars? You can get a 1080 for 550 real dollars

>> No.66958452

>>66958323
I don't quite understand, you use both PSUs at the same time for the same computer? What do you have plugged in to what?

>> No.66958461

>>66958291
>bottom fan is exhaust basically acting against bottom side intake
gay and homosexual

>> No.66958530

>>66958452
I use the cx550 for the 970 and the delta for the rest

>> No.66958565

>>66958530
Try using the CX550 only

>> No.66958596

>>66958443
its in cad, so probably like $470 american

>> No.66958613

>>66958309
Thanks, senpai.
>>66958461
The two on the bottom left are exclusive to the PSU. I forgot to mention that the PSU isn't open to the rest of the system.

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>>66958565
I need an adapter to 12pin that i ordered from china but it won't come until late september but i need this pc for my work right now

you think that could be it?

>> No.66958659

>>66958613
>two side window intake
>bottom fan is exhaust
>lower side window intake gets fucked with by current produced by bottom
Make bottom fan succ not blow

>> No.66958678

>>66958659
Yeah, I'd have the bottom fan as intake, too. It would help better cool the furnace that is the 390X by drawing in cool air to blow upwards to the GPU, or so I imagine.

>> No.66958727

>>66958291
I'd get rid of the top intake and maybe the bottom exhaust, as intake it'll work better as mentioned above but the ones from the side panel should be enough

>> No.66958728

>>66958678
Top intake is retarded unless it's a radiator with all fans sucking air in. I'd remove the intake fan altogether on the front top and retain just the rear and top-rear fan, The top intake in your diagram will interfere with your front intake

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What should I look for in a power supply? Meme japanese capacitors?

>> No.66958740

>>66958727
>but the ones from the side panel should be enough
>390x
>anything being ever enough
lel

>> No.66958822

>>66958735
Look up tier 1 PSUs. My RM750X is king tier, get any of the tier 1s that fit your aesthetic requirement.

>> No.66958827

>>66958735
Start with the wattage necessary for your build, then get at least 80+ Bronze efficiency or better. Consider semi- or full modularity (being able to detach cables you don't use).

When you find something that looks promising, read reviews. Jonnyguru is good and thorough, and I think I've seen HardOCP recommended for PSU reviews too. Some good PSUs might not have a review on these sites, you're on your own for those.

>> No.66958829

>IT office at my job is planning on throwing away 100+ 500GB WDBlue HDDs
>most of them only 2-3 years old
what's better, trying to grab a handful of these and taking up all the slots in my build or not being a jew and just buying a single 2TB?
it's not like I'd even be able to sell them individually for much

>> No.66958843

>>66958659
>>66958678
Kinda want the GPU heat to have an outlet. Should I swap the bottom side panel and bottom fans or just go bottom intake?
Also I'm considering extending the backplate with plastic to separate it into CPU circuit and GPU circuit; there's only two inches of clearance anyway.
>>66958728
That wasn't me btw. Should I ditch the fan there or swap it to exhaust? The GPU is literally halfway up the front intake.

>> No.66958851

>>66958735
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

>> No.66958855

Wouldn't a case with a PSU shroud and PSU bottom intake just make the airflow in the case worse?
I fail to see the point other than "aesthetics".

>> No.66958913

Does zotac use low quality capacitors?

>> No.66958970

ASUS, or MSI cards, or what exactly?

I'm going to pull the trigger really soon and I don't know which GTX 1080 to pick. I've been thinking about the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING X 8GB GDDR5X, is it ok?

>> No.66958994

I'm thinking a Fractal Define R6 case. Got a Noctua on the 2700x and a Zotac AMP Extreme in there. Haven't been able to bench anything yet, but does anyone have a similar set up that don't use AIO?

I want to stick to an air build but am not sure if I should start trying to make the case fly away or people have made temps fine stock/little modding.

>> No.66959064

>>66958970
The 1100 series will be out in like 20 days haha

>> No.66959086

>>66957849
you miss spelled "CHAD" wrong anon

>> No.66959123

Was the MSI lightning 1080 ti a big hit? I really like the look and was wondering if a 11xx ti version would be something to look out for in the distant future.

>> No.66959165

>>66959064
So?

The increase in performance won't be massive anyway.

>> No.66959170

>>66957849
I'll repost from the last thread, go for the CL14 kit if you can afford it. The MX500 and the X470 Gaming Plus are cheaper (worse VRMs and lacks voltage offset, it should be fixed with a BIOS update). Consider the Meshify C or the Enthoo Pro M for more airflow and a Supernova G3 or a Focus Gold Plus

>> No.66959235

>>66959165
But the decrease in price will be

>> No.66959245

>>66959170

im def going with the cl14, and an enthoo pro m case for more air flow

i prefer a g2 over a g3 powersupply, i dont see much to gain and i prefer a bigger psu so its snug in the case

im looking at the MX500 X470 mobos, im just concerned they wont be able to utilize the full 3200mhz of the ram

>> No.66959265

>>66959170

edit, the mx500 is a SSD lol , price value seems similar here in moose land - any benefit to switching to crucial from a samsung ssd?

>> No.66959274

Would upgrading to a 1700x from a fx 8350 be worth it? Can't afford going to the 2600x.

>> No.66959275

Do I sell my gtx 1070 now before it drops price?

>> No.66959299
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>>66959235
>the decrease in price
I'll believe it when I see it.

>> No.66959330

>>66959245
Even A320 boards can handle overclocking the memory so you shouldn't have issues, especially with B-Die
>>66959265
Just the price, the MX500 is slightly slower

>> No.66959348

>>66959330

alright il look into the mobo, the SSD MX500 is $25 cheaper, im assuming its the same speed

Thanks for your suggestions, im glad i double checked with this thread before hand :)

>> No.66959371

>>66959274
What about the 2600? The 1700X is great but for gaming the second generation is preferable

>> No.66959388

>>66959299
The trick is for you to wait.
The prices won't decrease but the temptation to pay more for a brand new card will weight on you

>> No.66959401

>>66958642
https://www.moddiy.com/categories/Cables/
They have a bunch of adaptor cables here, mainly for modding OEM towers, but still.

>> No.66959402

>>66959274
Check out benchmarks.
1700x at 4ghz is pretty much a 2700x

>> No.66959424

>>66959388

the thing that sucks about waiting, is sure this "X" new product will come out in a few months, it will cost more and will only improve by 10% at best

or you could get this "Y" product now, its battle tested and will cost 80% of "X" without having to eternally wait, sure you sacrifice 10% of power but by avoiding being a first adopter you save significantly

>> No.66959447

>>66959424
Why don't you try getting 2nd hand?

>> No.66959450

>>66958843
>Kinda want the GPU heat to have an outlet.
nigger the GPU has an outlet. It sucks air inside the case to the outside of the case
>I'm considering extending the backplate with plastic to separate it into CPU circuit and GPU circuit
No. You'll needlessly isolate parts of your motherboard/case.
> Should I ditch the fan there or swap it to exhaust?
Ditch

>> No.66959463

>>66959348
No problem. It's a bit slower but it's hard to notice, if it's for a workstation you might notice the difference more than on loading times from games. The Strix X470-F is close to having the best VRMs on X470 (the Crosshair VII and Aorus Gaming 7 beat it) but it's $250 over there, the Prime X470-Pro or the Gaming Plus would be enough

>> No.66959471

>>66959123
What a meme. Why don't you try getting one of those Jedi cards instead

>> No.66959472

>>66959447

i used to build computers that were triple their value if bought OEM from scouring kijiji for hours a day

but this will be my first time getting OEM parts, i know im paying 30% needlessly but i wont have to mix and match parts just because this one piece was super cheap


my current $300 build plays GTA V on medium at 60fps, but im bottlenecked by every single unit in the build and ive run out of room to upgrade

>> No.66959500

>>66959472
So you gonna just toss it and start a fresh? Probably best. I plan on doing a that

>> No.66959533
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Is delidding an i7 8700k necessary, or am I going to be fine as long as I don't OC it to 5GHz?

Also, what about the typical PSU? I've calculated that this setup gives me around 450W when nothing is OC'd, would you recommend a 600W PSU for OCing? I'm probably going to be aiming for at least 4.8GHz with my i7.

>> No.66959612

>>66959533
>or am I going to be fine as long as I don't OC it to 5GHz?
You'll probably be fine, but if you're not going to OC to 5ghz why not get the 2700x and save yourself $50+a platform that isn't dead? The *only* advantage intel is the fact that their CPUs OC very well. Otherwise AMD is more secure, cheaper and has more threads.

>> No.66959642

>>66959533
buying a 8700k isnt necessary and is retarded

>> No.66959655

>>66959612
I am going to OC, just not to 5ghz since it's the first time I do it for a CPU. I'll probably try 4,8Ghz or something safer for the start.

>>66959642
That's what I've heard, but then again there's also the other side of the audience who tell me that getting an 8600K is retarded and an i7's hyper-threading will have it live longer. My mind is set at this point.

>> No.66959684

Can I leave less than month old thermal paste? I don't have any fancy de-pasting equipment and I'd hate to fuck shit up.

>> No.66959689

Want to upgrade to ryzen 1st or 2nd gen, can switch everything over minus the mobo and ram.
Have a £300 budget, can maybe stretch it to £325. Want 16gb of ram eventually, but will only be able to buy 8gb at first.

>> No.66959699

>>66959684
(am installing new cooler, if that wasn't obvious)

>> No.66959712

>>66959689
Also, are the b450/x470 motherboards absolutely necessary for 2nd gen ryzen? Because if they're not, I can get the 300 series motherboards for much less money.

>> No.66959724

>>66959689
>minus the mobo and ram
How come? Isn't everything compatible, given you update bios?

>> No.66959742

>>66959724
I am on an am3 chipset.
I want to upgrade to ryzen. 1st gen or 2nd gen, depending on which will be best value for money.

>> No.66959769
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What's the goto poorfag CPU right now?

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>>66959450
It's an open cooler doe. If I go all inlet, will the air go out through the rear grills (my pci slot covers have holes)?

>> No.66959791

>>66959742
Oh, I read
>from 1st gen to 2nd gen
This makes more sense. Also, the 3xx mobos need to have up-to-date bios for 2nd gen, you'll have to make whoever's selling it has done that for you/they already got it that way.

>> No.66959807

>>66957962
https://www.ebuyer.com/749711-msi-gtx-1080-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5x-graphics-card-gtx-1080-armor-8g-oc

find a tiny bit cheaper psu

>> No.66959813

>>66959783
The part of the card where you lewdly stick all the DP/HDMI/DVI/(not vga, RIP) cables in have holes in it yes?

>> No.66959826

>>66959791
I can get a AB350 mobo, 1800x, and 3000mhz ram for £300.

>> No.66959833

>>66957962
https://www.ebuyer.com/791241-evga-550w-b3-psu-80-bronze-fully-modular-power-supply-220-b3-0550-v3

Not ebuyer shill honest

>> No.66959841

>>66959807
>the armor series has le bad thermals meme
I don't know where this came from, but my 1080 Armor OC rarely goes to 100% fan even why gayman and goes 0% about the third of the time while mining shitcoins
Also get one of those $8 piece of metal that you screw in your case to avoid GPU sag

>> No.66959853
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Why are memory prices so ridiculous?

>> No.66959870

Is the Corsair 200r case any good. I hear it's pretty decent from what I've read

>> No.66959874

>>66959853
Because cartels.

>> No.66959890

>>66959853
Because Miners + Greedy Executives = Bullshit

>> No.66959894

>>66959769
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_available.html
I'd go with the 2200g. 4 cores 4 threads. Works well.

>> No.66959896

>>66959870
>I have one
>it's so cheap
>no mesh
>so much dust

>> No.66959907

would it be better to get high-end workstation parts from a few years ago (ex. Xeon) or to get standard consumer parts from today (ex. i5/ryzen 5)

>> No.66959934

>>66959907
Old workstation stuff has a pretty bad performance per watt and no upgrade path. It's only worth it if you can get it for really cheap.

>> No.66959961

>>66959870
HDD resonated like a motherfucker, when it was at the top (now it's ok though). Also dust as the other anon said. When suspended, it blinks quite brightly, you'll want to cover that up if you sleep anywhere near. Those are about the only negatives, overall I'm mostly satisfied.

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>>66959907
my old builds were always based off getting high-end parts that were at the end of their upgrade path

sure you get a good bang for your buck, but its like buying an old race horse, shes got a few wins left in her but your going to have to put her down the minute something goes wrong

I miss you o'l Faithful....

>> No.66959999

How do I find a b350 or x370 mobo with bios updated for ryzen 2xxx series?

>> No.66960001
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Thoughts on this?

>inb4 i3 8350k is cancer
you're a faggot it was free fight me

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First time builder here,I'm currently planning around with this build, and i have a few questions

>Would a 10 year Hp w1907v display anything with this thing, i kinda don't feel like adding up more items in the build, and i'll consider getting the monitor later.

>What details should i take notes about Power supplies?

>And what kind of fans should i consider buying in the future?

Any specific tips for first timers? i kinda nervous on getting everything online,

>> No.66960007

>>66959907
>>66959934
Plus a new intel bug is found every few months

>> No.66960050

>>66960001
I've heard that MSI mobos are cancer, don't know though.

>> No.66960056

>>66960006
Drop the i7 for an i5 and use funds to get a 1080,
take a 1tb drive and drop the SSD, use this money to get an NVME drive

Otherwise I see no issues

>> No.66960061

>>66960050
I've had no problems with it in my current build, lights a decent touch as well

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66960082

CPU is 1300X and RAM is 2133MHz btw
What should I upgrade next?
I was thinking the RAM. I don't have a huge amount of money so how fast should it be and how much do I need? Also open to other suggestions. I was thinking in the $100-$150 range, but it might be nice to know what my options would be in my range went up to $200
I use my PC for programming, music production, and vidya. Also I'm the type of gamer that would take 200fps at a shitty res with low settings over 4K 30fps anyday

>> No.66960083

>>66959999
In-person, by looking for the Ryzen 2000 Ready sticker. Or ask the online retailer, but they'll likely say they don't know or that they don't want to update it for you. Asking is free, though, so don't hold yourself back if you can save a bunch of money.

>> No.66960166

>>66960006
>getting a 1060 when you're getting an 8700k
the absolute fucking state

>> No.66960188
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Is touching a doorknob or computer case enough to ground me?

>> No.66960230

>>66960188
Just touch your radiator.

>> No.66960232

Package arrived a day earlier than expected. Thanks NewEgg. I'm giggling like a child right now. Just waiting on my case and SSD and I'll get straight to building

>> No.66960259

>>66960232
Good luck anon. I was as excited as you are ehen building my system. Hope everything goes well.

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>>66960259
>In b4 people start complaining
I'm happy with what I got and it's already here, so I'm feeling good right now

>> No.66960293

Only 2 more parts to order, the PSU and GPU.
Just ordered the mobo, an MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC.

>> No.66960302

>>66960232
>>66960278
Your first time? Parts look fine though the PSU might be a bit overkill. Post your build when you're done so we can laugh about your cable management. Have fun.

>> No.66960314

>>66960082
Two options I can think of but you'd need more money, you could overclock the memory and get a RX 580 MK2 OC or a 4GB model or get a B350 or B450 board to overclock the CPU and a B-Die kit (it'll overclock more than a cheaper kit like the F4-2666C15D-16GVR)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cvGj4D/team-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdpgd416g3200hc14adc01

>> No.66960317

>>66960278
Looks good to me friendo, have fun.

>> No.66960323

>>66960302
I see pics all the time with people putting so much effort into cable management. I'm shit at it so you won't be disappointed to find a mess lol

>> No.66960324

>>66959813
The plates that cover the holes the video outputs would come out on the back of the case.

>> No.66960346

>>66960278
Looks great anon, I'm saving up for those parts (excluding the HDD, PSU and motherboard)

>> No.66960357

>>66960278
I've the same Ram and had the same PSU.
Don't want to be the bearer of bad enw here but you should have gotten an SSD as well. Get a 500gb 860 evo after a few months after playing around with the build and you'll see a HUGE increase in overall responsiveness and vidya load times. Hope you enjoy your build, Anon!

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What is a good webcam?

>> No.66960380

Hey ho lads, quick question.
I want to buy some RAM for my new build, found this on budget: Patriot Viper 4 Series 8GB DDR4 3000MHz CL16 Dual Channel Kit (copy pasta'd because too lazy too type). Is it reliable or any good? Will put on a B350 PC MATE and it's a 2x4GB dual chan. kit.

>> No.66960385
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What's the most weeb case I can get?

>> No.66960386

>>66960357
I hate to also have bad news but I said above that my ssd won't come in until either tomorrow or the next day

>> No.66960423

>>66959783
That GPU blows air onto your board and above it.

It's actually the optimal set up for cooling the GPU itself, but not keeping the case cool.
The fins running along the length are a bit of a compromise between GPU temps and case temps.

>>66960001
>it was free
Some cuck is passing his cuckwares off to you once he realized what a cuck it made him is?
Sell it and get an 8700.
Get a GPU that isn't a shitty model. No MSI Armor (except mk2), Gigabyte G1/Windforce, nor ASUS Dual.
Get 3000-3200 RAM.

>>66960050
Their newer ones seem to be okay.

>>66960006
212 is not enough to cool an 8700k.
>ASUS DUal
See above.
>>66960278
>Armor card

>>66960082
Overclock your RAM wtf.
Other than that, just wait for 3000 series to launch and Navi or whatever.

>> No.66960480

>>66960050
Apparently, if you don't need to overclock your (i?)gpu it's not terrible, but that particular options is completely missing from their bios.

>> No.66960497

>>66960380
Gayming/general use PC? keep in mind most new games can use more than 8gb ram and it really hurts performance if you have less. For less demanding games or most multiplayer games it shouldn't be a problem though.

>> No.66960512

>>66960480
You can get an older BIOS but even Buildzoid said that MSI boards have terrible iGPU support

>> No.66960545

>>66960497
I ugh intend to make it for sorta-gaming. I do Verdun and CS:GO mostly. Plan on playing Tannenberg in the near future, Fallout 4 (maybe 76) and Dishonored 2.
Some fellas told me dual chan is faster than normal. Initial plan was to get a single-chan 8GB and then when I get more cash hook another 8GB on it.

>> No.66960554

>>66960278
you dun guffed

>> No.66960623

>>66958994
Do you have a but load of 3.5 HDDs? That's the only reason to go a Define R series, otherwise they're just a big awkward case.

>> No.66960661

>>66960166
GPUs are a meme

>> No.66960700
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Give it to me straight baby. How dandy is the Gigabyte x470 motherboard? I'm a poorfag and Microcenter has it on sale for 80$

>> No.66960738

>first build black friday last year
>bought non-qvl ram
>zen+ released a few months ago
>ssd prices a super low now
>non-TG version of the case I wanted released the month after I bought TG version
>monitor sucks
should I start swapping/adding parts now? or I should just wait until Zen2 for a completely new build, right? how long do people usually go between builds?

>> No.66960771

>>66960700
Depends on which one, as they have about half a dozen ATX X470 alone. The Gaming 7 is an excellent high end board, but most their others are pretty average.
>$80
Probably worthwhile anyway.

>> No.66960811

>>66960700
It's pretty bad. Even the Gaming 7 has its issues.
Why don't they have other options for cheap?

>>66960738
Uh what do you have now?
Zen2 is still going to be AM4.

If you don't have an SSD, just get that for now.

>>66960623
This. And even then, there are mATX NAS cases which fit 8 or more 3.5" HDDs.

>> No.66960829

why are test benches so expensive? I want to upgrade from my cardboard box setup but for some reason they are all like 100 bucks for basically two slabs of metal.

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did I do good?

>> No.66960872

>>66960545
There's practically no difference between module configurations don't worry about it. Sometimes it can be hard to find the exact model to match your old RAM sticks in the future, but 8GB sticks tends to be more available than 4GB ones.

>> No.66960873

>>66960862
How much did you get it for?

>> No.66960876

>>66960873
$250

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>>66960876
MSRP for a 2 year old GPU. Hmmmmmmmm...

>> No.66960898

>>66960188
best anime

>> No.66960917

>>66960811
Are you implying only ASUS make good boards?

>> No.66960920

>>66960892
Really? I've looked and the standard price for the that has been $325 from what I've noticed.

>> No.66960931

>>66960920
he's jealous because he's a waitfag

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>>66960771
>>66960811
>phoneposting
Which one of these should I go for? I'm trying to get a decent motherboard now to keep til 2020 or so

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>>66960931
STOP: THATS NOT TRUE;
>>66960931
THIS ANON IS LYING LYING I TELL YOU.

All jokes aside I'm pretty happy for ya anon. I've got a 1050 ti gaming x and the card is allright.

>> No.66960980

>>66960961
meant for >>66960920
as well

>> No.66961073

>>66960961
I was pretty tempted to just settle for the 1050 to

>> No.66961104

>>66961073
I'm glad you didn't repeat my mistake. When I bought my 1050 ti the 1060 6gb gaming X's were literally double the price of a normal 1050 ti.

>> No.66961130

I'm trying to get an AM4 mini-itx motherboard an I'm very confused. What should I look for?

Is there any difference at all between ASUS's X470-I and its B450-I beside the chipset which doesn't seem to do anything? Looking at the pictures and specs, it looks like the exact same PCB and VRM.

>> No.66961135

>>66961104
Are you gonna try and upgrade soon?

>> No.66961159

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yccgQZ
Wanting to upgrade from my 955, the prices at 0 are the things I already own. Mostly for 1080p 60fps gaming and some streaming/video editing although upgrading my monitors would probably be next on my list.
Wasn't planning on manually ocing just letting xfr2/pb2 do whatever it does. The stock cooler should be fine enough for that right?
The CH6 is a bundle with the cpu and it seemed like a decent price and shouldn't be to hard to flash the bios if it isn't upgraded.
Is the CH6 a good mobo if I wanted to upgrade to a later gen ryzen later down the line or would I be better off getting a cheaper x470 or b450 and getting a new mobo later?

>> No.66961191

>>66961130
Not really unless you do some extreme OC, Bios updates tends to delay more on the cheaper boards. But in my experience "bigger" boards are easier to resell, people don't want your tiny dick board.

>> No.66961241

ASRock B350 Pro 4 or ASUS B450 Strix?

>> No.66961293

>>66961159
Read the OP, you should plan your build around the monitor.

Probably you don't need to spent that much on a mobo and ram.

>> No.66961347

>>66961241
MSI B450 Tomahawk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQcgwz1hYA&t=0s

>> No.66961384

>>66958291
You're totally overthinking it, and I hope you didn't really buy that many case fans. How many fans do you have? Do you even have a fan controller for them? Are you using an air or liquid cooler on your CPU?

First consideration is you want all your fans working together to minimizes fan speeds and noise which means everything pointing in one direction ideally.

After that you want to minimize dust so have intakes on the bottom and exhaust on the top, and be sure all intakes have filters. A lot of people gripe about net pressure, in general you want a net zero or negative air pressure so dust is pushed out of cracks rather than sucked in, but it's not actually very important.

The changes I would make is have both top fans as exhaust. Bottom fan as intake. I would put side fans as exhaust so heat from the GPU is vented quickly and no dust is sucked in. Last I would have the CPU cooler fan in line with the front and rear fans.

I think that would minimizes fan speed, noise, and temps.

>> No.66961411

Fuck all this shit, I'm just buying a gaming laptop

>> No.66961418

>>66960876
$250 for a 1060-6Gb Gaming X isn't bad.

>>66960947
Gaming Plus, Crosshair, or the Prime Pro.
Apparently the Strix currently has BIOS issues. Though I would think Pro would too since they're roughly the same PCB. idk.

>>66961241
ASUS B450 boards seem to be pretty crap from what I can tell?

>> No.66961479

>>66960947
>phoneposting
What makes you think that?
I guess it depends on whether you're going a 2600/X or 2700/X. If one of the former 6 cores, most of the average 4 phase X470 boards should be fine and if you keep air moving over the VRM area on the $80 Gigabyte, it should be fine. Although if I was running one of the latter 8 core CPUs I'd spend a bit more for the X470 Prime Pro, one of the best value 6 phase AM4 boards out there.
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/pga-am4-mainboard-vrm-liste-1155146.html
One of the tools I use to get an idea for VRM phasing on AM4 boards. On a different note, anyone know of an 1151CL equivalent page?

>> No.66961481
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More or less?

>> No.66961521

>>66961418
>>66961347
Even the TUF one is shit? all i will use is a Ryzen 2400g.
And there is no sign about MSI B450 Tomahawk in the stores of where i am from yet.

>> No.66961523

>>66957707
I'm looking for better performance in VR for simulators like Assetto Corsa and ETS2 + the few AAA titles i've been interested in were straining my r9 290 a bit at 1440p.

My question is, in terms of price to performance, am I better off with a 1080 or springing for the Ti?

(I'll use the money for a headphone upgrade if the ti is a rip off)

>> No.66961532

>>66961521
The TUF is really shit. These days for the most part the TUF series are just budget low end boards with some colour slapped on the PCB.

>> No.66961541

>>66961532
So im better waiting for the MSI board or just buy a B350 motherboard?

>> No.66961548

>>66961541
MSI and Asrock have good B450 boards.

>> No.66961555

>>66961548
The problem is that there are only 2 B450 motherboards released in Mexico(ASUS Strix and TUF B450 motherboards in Amazon).

>> No.66961556

How long will a ryzen 2600 and rx 580 give me 60fps @ 900p?

>> No.66961613

>>66961555
I would wait a week or so for Amazon Mexico to get it then. Do you not have a Mexican equivalent to Newegg?

>> No.66961638

>>66961555
The Strix B450 isn't bad, as long as you'd keep air moving across the VRM.

>> No.66961673

>>66961523
I'd say your overall experience will be a lot better with good headphones, maybe you will need to tweak some stuff in some VR games but you can keep most settings on ultra.

>> No.66961720

>>66961556
until you play raping gpu simulator 2019: the game

>> No.66961736

I want to make the cutest build possible. What parts should I get??? :D

>> No.66961744

>>66961613
Yes but they don't have free shipping, no free RMA either, also warranty is a bit shady.

>> No.66961773

>>66961736
B450 ITX motherboard with a Raven Ridge APU into an InWin Choppin case.
C
U
T
E

>> No.66961780

>>66961481
>i5
>Noctua
Please tell me you didn't actually buy shit like the 8600K.

>> No.66961782

>>66961744
>tfw Amazon is seen as the good guy in a situation
oof

>> No.66961796

>>66961521
$90 for that MSI Gaming Plus/Pro is good. Get that if you're looking to save money.

>>66961541
MSI and ASRock B450 boards are fine from what I've seen, especially for a 6 core.
But for a 2700X, I'd get at least something as good as the MSI X470 Gaming Plus/Pro which has 4*2 phase VRMs and seems to work decently. Other options are like the ASUS Prime Pro and ASRock Master, for cheaper X470 boards for a 2700X.

You could technically run a 2700X on something like the ASRock B450 Pro4, or B450 Strix, maybe even the B450 Mortar, and technically turn on PBO, but you'd want to have good airflow over your VRMs and maybe replace the heatsink with some better ones if it sucks, etc. You'd need to actually monitor it and be sure.
Whereas with 4*2 phase or 6 phase for the vcore you can just forget about it in any situation.

>>66961556
Why would you not get at least a 1080p 75hz monitor? You can get them for like $90. Even IPS ones.

>> No.66961845

new nvidia cards this wednesday

>> No.66961848

>>66960700
>How dandy is the Gigabyte x470 motherboard?
Gaming Ultra and Gaming 5 are the same outside of Wifi on the Gaming 5. Gaming 7 is actually pretty good from a hardware perspective (great i/o, headers and VRM heatsinks).

If you're talking about the gaming ultra...I wouldn't really. But then again $80 is actually what it should be priced at. Just not MSRP.

>> No.66961862

>>66961845
big if tru

>> No.66961866

>>66961736
mini-itx motherboard, underpowered CPU, small case

>> No.66961877

>>66961736
LianLi TU100 so you can carry your smol PC around.

>> No.66961882

>>66961848
>>66960700
I think they're probably on sale because they got ripped apart for straight up lying about their VRM phases.

>> No.66962024

>>66961796
>Why would you not get at least a 1080p 75hz monitor? You can get them for like $90. Even IPS ones.
900p @ 60hz is perfectly fine for me and I'd rather have the system last longer at staying at 60fps.

>> No.66962112

Thinking about buying the Fractal Design Focus G Case, is it any good or is there a better one. (Also getting it because it supports ODD)

>> No.66962134

I've been thinking of replacing my video card.
Right now my build is as follows:
16 GB RAM
Intel i7 5820k
EVGA GTX 980

I kinda want to upgrade but I haven't found anything particularly compelling, thoughts?

>> No.66962136

>>66959165
Is there evidence to support this? The jump from 980 to 1080 was pretty good so why not a similar gain for the 1180?

>> No.66962153

>>66962134
I really see no reason for an upgrade.

>> No.66962154

>>66959684
>fancy de-pasting equipment
you mean the cheapest isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip? just clean and reapply

>> No.66962182

>>66962024
1080p on high settings and 75fps is going to look better than 900p at highest settings and 60fps.

RX580 is a strong GPU for everything except the most unoptimized games like GR Wildlands, and even then it does fine if you just don't max settings.

>>66962134
Just OC your 980.

>>66962136
Because there's no more "low-hanging-fruit" to gain a lot of performance like that anymore.
Maxwell was a big jump because of its tiled rasterization and culling of polygons which aren't visible very quickly.
Pascal was then another big jump because it was going from 28nm or whatever to 16nm.

There is not much left for Nvidia to improve arch wise except to incorporate Async compute, and a shrink from 16nm to 12nm isn't enough alone to give such huge gains.

The only way the 1180 is going to be a big jump is if it's a 1080Ti die shrink. Then, with GDDR6 as well, sure you can expect like 15% increased performance above the 1080Ti.
But it's looking more likely, especially with the latest rumors which aren't anonymous Currytech sources, that the 1180/1085 is just going to be the 1080 die, or maybe 10% more cores, that's die shrunk. so you're talking 15-30% performance increase over the 1080, not ~50%.

You should instead be looking back at the small gains Nvidia had up until Fermi, then to Kepler. They are 15-25% gains each generation, not 45-60%.

>> No.66962226

>>66962182
>1080p on high settings and 75fps is going to look better than 900p at highest settings and 60fps.
Yes I'm well aware of that. But 900p @ 60 fps will probably last another 5 years.

>> No.66962268

>>66962226
That's like 5 years of only being able to fuck the other hole.
If that satisfies you, then sure, go for it.

>> No.66962336
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Anybody have experience waiting until cyber monday/boxing day/ amazon prime day for serious deals on hardware?

Im wondering if waiting 4 months could shave a chunk out of a $2000 build but in my experience all those sales claim prices are lower than listed but then tend to be the exact same prices months prior

Should i wait a bit or just go ahead and build my Ryzen2700X build - Canada prices btw

>> No.66962353

>>66962268
900p is perfectly fine for me for pc gaming. I'd rather have the convenience of installing any game and it runnning at 60 fps everytime. In fact I think I'll get a gtx 1070 just in case for future proofing.

>> No.66962375

>>66962336
Go ahead and build before you get stuck in the Just Wait™ cycle

>> No.66962443
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So, after dealing with family tragedies and a house fire, i'm finally getting aroound to building thee 6700k/1070 build I bought parts for like 2 years ago

This will be my first time building a computer. Is there anything I should know that I wouldn't be super obvious/wouldn'tt be mentioned in the typical youtube guide for tthis stuff? What sort of supplies will I need? I don't know for examplee if most parts come witth everything you need to actually build it (I think thermal paste comes with the CPU, right?), will I need a screwdriver or something? Should I buy ziipties or something for cable mangement, etc

Also, I have a spare 250gb samsung SSD lying around in addittion to the 500gb I bought for the build: Is it possible to hook both up and do something to have the computer read it as a single 750gb drive?

>> No.66962558

>>66962443
It's not worth building a 6700k system now. The ryzen 2600 will run better than it for less money.

>> No.66962621

>>66962443
I'd sell it if it's all new in box.
You could probably get what'd it cost to make a better new system, since new parts are so much cheaper when it comes to SSD, a capable cooler, PSU, CPUs, etc.

>> No.66962624

>>66957914
send me the cpu and the ram.

>> No.66962679

Is it safe to buy cheap ram on eBay?

>> No.66962688

>>66962558
This. The 6700K is 2 years old and way outperformed by more modern hex and octo-core chips.

>> No.66962704

Do all dell motherboards need a proprietary heatsink?

I have an E8600 laying around and I'm looking for a board to put it in to use it as an HTPC but all the cheap lga775 boards are dells.

>> No.66962723

>>66961780
Doushitano onii chan?

>> No.66962807

>>66962688
>>66962558
>>66962621
If it's that outdated, then who would be willing to buy it at a price where I could then afford to buy better parts without spending that much extra?

Like, who would buy the 6700k and the mobo from me when they could just buy the cheaper, better CPUs that you guys are talkiing about?

>> No.66962893

>>66962807
See this is why Ryzen was great. It completely upended the market and raped Intel, making MOAR CORES mainstream.

>> No.66962914

>>66962443
I'll weigh in against the status quo itt and say if you've already got the hardware, you may as well build and enjoy it. Sure, hex and octa core CPUs that have become the mainstay in consumer socket flagships may have been a big jump, but an unlocked 4c8t CPU isn't going to be obsolete for some time to come. It is two generations old so therefore you're going to be selling to low ballers who'll probably want something for nothing, and in my opinion just ain't worth it. If you had a 6600 i5 or something I'd probably agree with the others, but a 6700k is still a solid chip.

>> No.66962995
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What's considered a high voltage for RAM? I'm trying to get it closer to the advertised bin of 3000MHz. Currently, it refuses to POST at anything above 2800, and 2800 was a segfault-fest that disappeared once I turned off XMP. I bumped the voltage up to 1.5V and I'm running Memtest86 to see if its stable. Should I go higher to try and get 2933? Should I RMA the RAM and get a new set?

>> No.66963035

>>66962893
I'm not understanding though: If Ryzen is that much better then what I have now and is cheaper, who would buy the 6700k from me at a price that's not so low it's not worth it for me to bother?

>> No.66963037

Which one is better?
The Phanteks Enthoo Pro M or the Corsair 300R case?

>> No.66963074

>>66963035
>>66962914
>>66962893
>>66962621
>>66962558
Also worth noting I only have a 1080p display and that's unlikely to change for years, so 'm not going to be gaming at 1440p or 4k or anything

>> No.66963085

>>66963035
>who would buy the 6700k from me at a price that's not so low it's not worth it for me to bother?
People who built $500 budget builds with Kaby Lake and Skylake i3's and Pentiums. Makes a good upgrade for them

>> No.66963090

>>66962995
I wouldn't go higher than 1.4v for long term, I assume you have tried increasing the cas latency? Most of the time its better to loosen the latency to get the freq you're aiming for then tighten and memtest for stability

>> No.66963134

>>66963090
Timings* rather

>> No.66963161

>>66963090
I didn't. Not much of an overclocker, so I didn't know what to do with CAS timings, whereas the "bump up the voltage here" field in the UEFI was just there and made more sense. I heard somewhere that having lower CAS timings with lower frequencies yields better performance, and I'm already looking at 15-16-16-35. Should I fuck with the timings when they already look like that? Should I just back off on Voltage and try and get 2666 or something stable at 1.35~1.40? I'm getting the impression my RAM is fucked desu.

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>want to build a new pc
>gpu prices coming down
>good cpus are cheap as fuck thanks to ryzen
>still too expansive for me because ddr4 prices are fucked

The wait meme is real.

>> No.66963205
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am i doing good /g/?

>> No.66963218

>>66963205
Good bang for the buck.

>> No.66963243

Can you use m.2 wlan card without an antenna? My PC is literally five feet away from the router.

>> No.66963244

>>66963074
Any of this resolutions shouldn't make any difference apart from maybe requiring a GPU upgrade. If anything the higher resolution you go, the less of a concern the CPU is.
>>66963085
That's true, but then anon is still stuck trying to sell a Z170 board aswell, then having to side grade to presumably an X470 or Z370 platform. Sure the multi threading advantages of stepping from a former flagship 8 thread i7 to even a midrange 2600 are obvious, but the 8 threads on anon's Skylake i7 aren't going to be limiting any time soon.

>> No.66963260

>>66963205
Do you already own the 1700? If not, I'd strongly recommend you spend a bit more to get the IPC advantage of a 2700 or even just 2600 Ryzen. Make saving on going 1070ti instead of 1080 and it should be a similar price.

>> No.66963283

>>66963186
If intel comes out with new CPUs before black friday, and nvidia comes out with new GPUs before black friday, and ram prices decrease by 20% before black friday, and you buy ALL your shit on black friday, AND you shop at microcenter (on black friday), they'll probably pay you about $580 to build a top end computer.

Waiting is the ONLY solution.

>> No.66963292

>g.skill ripjaws v series ddr4-3200

why is this the only ram people in this thread are using

more like g.shills

>> No.66963296

I'm wanting to do a raid array to make sure i never lose my donkey kong erotica word docs again

what hdds should I get? I haven't paid attention to the market for a few years

>> No.66963366

>>66963292

because it's the cheapest.

>anon
>more like an-asshole

>> No.66963368

>>66963292
Find a cheaper b-die and they'll probably start recommending that.
>>66963296
Post erotica here regularly and have 4chan and have it stored by other anons.

>> No.66963379

How come Antec hasn't come out with a decent case in years? Are they out of the game?

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>>66962443
>will I need a screwdriver or something?
Number 2 phillips is all you need fren :)

>> No.66963406

>>66963368
nah i wrote it myself and i'm embarrassed to share, since they include my sketches too

but really do I just get a few cheap 2tb drives or are there more preferable ones out there now

>> No.66963414

>>66963296
Post the first paragraph and i'll tell you.

>> No.66963423

>>66959533
Just buy a 8086k if they're still in stock. Binned 8700k for cheaper than what you can get from siliconlottery. You'll probably be able to get to 5.0 on 1.2-1.3v which means your temps will be fine.

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>>66963205
Scrap the 1700, get the ryzen 5 2600x instead. It'll be MUCH better for gaming purposes. The second gen ryzens are MUCH better for gaming as their single thread performance is immensely better. If you aren't doing video editing you probably don't need an 8 core model.

I'm not sure right now is the best time to buy a GPU. Maybe a used one on ebay, but not new. After august 30th the 1080 series will drop in price quite a bit.

I'm running a ryzen 7 2700x with a sapphire nitro+ vega 64. Only memory I could find that will clock up to 3200mhz/CL14 was the gskill flare-x kit. If I was to do it again I'd have probably got the ryzen 5 2600x as the 2700x seems like overkill for my needs.

>> No.66963438

>>66961780
wtf, can you really tell the brand of the paste just by looking at it?

>> No.66963448

>>66962807
>If it's that outdated, then who would be willing to buy it at a price where I could then afford to buy better parts without spending that much extra?
Idiots. There's lots of them.
Though most of people who are idiots would want to buy one already put together, I guess. I guess build it but also say you have all the boxes to parts.

>>66962995
1.5v is the highest you want to go assuming you have good airflow. 1.4v otherwise.
You can do 1.85v or so if you're water cooling it or otherwise cooling it very well. But even keeping it cool, there is still a chance of possible degradation at that voltage afaik.

>>66963205
Why not go mATX? Cases tend to be cheaper and better quality for the money.
Mortar is basically mATX version of the Tomahawk, iirc.

>>66963423
Lmao what a joke.
You still need to delid the 8086k.

>>66963426
The wood trim is cute.

>>66963379
Yes.

>> No.66963453

How long do cpu paste stay good?

>> No.66963471

>>66963423
No thanks, I'd just prefer to just delid an 8700k anyway and not pay the jew tax for the same thing

>> No.66963493

>>66963453
I'd recommend changing it out every 3 years. Nobody ever does, but it's the longest time I see any manufacturer standing behind.

>> No.66963521

>>66963453
Depends on paste. Just change it when your temps stop being fine, like 3-5 years or so.
Or do you mean unused paste? Should be fine for a long time in the tube, afaik. Though if it's old artic silver, that stuff is not worth using anymore.

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>>66963423
>Just buy a 8086k

>> No.66963536

>>66963521
I had a tube of arctic silver 5 that was practically prehistoric. I used it to repair an ebay dell latitude that would overheat just booting into windows.

It still got the temps down to 30s at idle and 50s under load.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vHzpmq

This build is perfect for me but I have no idea what monitor or graphics card to pair with it. The other day I visited Best Buy to look at monitors, and as I was playing with the 144hz screens it seemed like they were no different from the 1080p screen I already have. Now the 240hz monitor, that thing was in a whole other league. But I don't game enough to pay $550 for a 240hz monitor when most of my time is spent photo editing and research for work.

Either way, I would like an MSI card to match the red and black aesthetic.

>> No.66963695

>>66961384
Probably. I used fan splitters, which I hope isn't too stupid. Also, isn't positive pressure preferred for dust prevention? More air is forced in to the case so that air pushes out through the cracks. Then the only way in is through filtered intake fans.

>> No.66963703

>>66963536
Ok. It's not worth using on a mid or high end system.

>> No.66963747

>>66963695
Yes you want positive pressure, not just for dust control but also so that you know that your PC isn't exhausting hot air then sucking it right back in through a vent.

You have a lot better control over where your air comes from with positive pressure.

>> No.66963761

>>66963747

people also forget that with positive pressure there is a lot more mass inside the case to dissipate heat vs negative.

>> No.66963818

>>66963695
It is, but not in a way that pic's configured. Like the bottom exhaust pulling air away from components before it gets to them, or the two top fans recycling each other's air. You'd be better off simply having two intakes front and one exhaust rear, or two 140mm intakes front one 120 exhaust rear and one 120mm exhaust top rear, or three intakes front and bottom with the two previously mentioned exhausts.
Even with similar intake and exhaust count you can just run the intakes marginally faster then exhaust to get the positive pressure effect.

>> No.66963838

>>66963818
Or just do what I did and find a 200+cfm 120mm intake fan. Make sure your side panels are attached firmly before ramping up the speed.

>> No.66963847

>>66963695
A single Y spliter per pin source is fine.
And yes, positive pressure is desirable both to prevent dust from being sucked in through places where there are no dust filters, and because it gives more bite to the fans inside your case, and it gives more contact of VRMs to air to transfer heat to, etc.

>>66963689
The Alienware 240hz is okay.

But I don't understand your build. You should get cheapest Z370 board and 3200 RAM to get the most out of the 8700.
Otherwise, for that amount of money, you can get the same performance on a better platform for cheaper with a 2600X and B-die. If you want a 8700 to outperform a 2600X, you need fast RAM on it as well. Otherwise, you're just wasting money over blind fanboyism.
Why THAT tiny of a cooler? Instead of the L12, Cryorig C1, or something similar with a 120-140mm fan?
Why are you paying $84 for a 250Gb SSD? You look confused as fuck getting a MX500 250Gb for cheaper at one point, then also throwing in the overpriced one that's the same performance in there.

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First build, pls no steppy. Still deciding on monitor, any recs for a 24" VESA monitor are appreciated

>> No.66963853

>>66963838

my last build i used 4x140 intake top/front and one 140mm exhaust on the rear. shit was loud as fuck

>> No.66963874

>>66963850
>$87 for 120Gb SSD
You done fucked up even worse
>$190 for a 1050Ti
WHAT. Why do you think that GPU is powerful and worth that much? You can get a 4Gb RX580 for close to $200. 45-75% better performance for a few % more money.

What the fuck is with all these people from /v/ thinking the 1050Ti is a high end card and comparable to a 1060 6Gb or RX580? Does the OP not make it clear?

>> No.66963880

>>66963847
>Y-splitter
Hmm. I have a tri splitter.

>> No.66963890

>>66963850
You need a better card than a 1050ti. If you can't afford better, go used. Wait a month and you'll see people offloading 1080s for waaaay less than they are currently.

>> No.66963899

>>66963850
>seagate hdd
>120gb ssd
>evga acx card
>semensonic psu

you fucked up

>> No.66963902

>>66963850
get a 1060 6gb. much better card.

>> No.66963918

>>66963838
Yep, similar fan count with more effective intakes works.
>>66963853
Vastly overpowering your exhaust is noisy, and not necessary. Dunno which case or hardware you had, but probably just two intakes on the front would've been enough.
>>66963850
Thirding stepping up to a 1060 6gb or RX580 if you can.

>> No.66963919

>>66963847

this nigga just said a 2600x is more capable than an 8700

>> No.66963927

>>66963902
or he could get an RX 580 for cheaper and get similar performance

>> No.66963946

>>66963918

..building our own PCs isn't necessary but here we are. it's all about experimentation and tinkering

fuck i swear you guys all build computers but you are the LAST people i'd ever want to talk about this hobby with

>> No.66963969

>>66963899
>semensonic psu
opinion discarded

>> No.66963978

>>66963919
Yes, a 2600X with B-die is more capable than an 8700 non-k with 2666 RAM. Or at least it's nearly the same and any difference is placebo, while being cheaper and on an overall better platform and not on a dead socket. That is indeed what I posted.

>>66963880
Could be fine I guess, but does your case not have 4 fan pins total? One for CPU, and that leaves 3*2 for your 6 case fans.

Ultimately, your airflow is going to be more limited by your archiac case design than anything else.

And your idea of where to put fans is fine. I'm not super sure about the bottom outtake, but it's whatever.

>> No.66963988

>>66963847

After reading through this thread, it seems like you are a person who argues against anything that doesn't go hand in hand with your personal view, so I'll keep it brief. 8700 is a better CPU, I like the aesthetic of the NHL9x65 and it has screws for fans vs clips. I want to keep my OS and my programs/files on completely separate drives but there isn't a quality 120GB model on the market.

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>>66962995
>>66963161
Just got done dicking around with shit. I reverted back to the stock settings (1.35V, 15-16-16-35 CAS timings) and bumped the timings down to 2666MHz. Memtest86 passed without issue, and everything seems stable (for now). Without changing the voltage or the timings, this seems like the best I'm going to get. I'm wondering if the RAM I got is a dud or not, although for all I know, the advertised speeds are for hardware three times what I paid. I have half a mind to call the manufacturer with the number on the back of my kit, since "the G.SKILL technical team is always ready to provide consumers with complete technical support," but I honestly don't know what I hope to achieve doing so, or if this even falls into the jurisdiction of shit they can help with.
Wish this horseshit just worked out of the box instead of having to jump through hoops to get what I paid for.

>> No.66964023

>>66963978
nigga 2600x DOESN'T EVEN HAVE INTEGRATED GRAPHICS I WONDER WHY IT'S CHEAPER

OH AND LET'S GO GET B-DIE RAM THAT -STARTS- AT 210, PLUS A GRAPHICS CARD, JUST SO WE CAN REHASH THE SAME BULLSHIT ARGUMENTS IN EVERRRYYYYYY BUILDING THREAD

AND ICE LAKE WILL BE ON THE SAME CHIPSET

NIGGA WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO PLAY HERE. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS

>> No.66964026

>>66963988
>only just realizing now the namefag is an uneducated retard

he can't take criticism. enjoy him insulting you (which he probably won't now if he sees this first).

>> No.66964037

>>66963988
>8700 is a better CPU
And incase you missed it, that poster was saying if you wanted the 8700, get a Z370 chipset board and utilise faster memory. It's not necessarily a better CPU if it's bottlenecked by memory speed.

>> No.66964042

>>66963978
3 case fan pins + 1 CPU fan pins. Are they interchangeable? GPU blocks a case fan pin though. Could probably just bend the wires?
>>66963994
Check your QVL. Board manufacturers test RAM kits with their latest BIOS and list how fast they can get those kits.

>> No.66964047

>>66964023
>nigga 2600x DOESN'T EVEN HAVE INTEGRATED GRAPHICS I WONDER WHY IT'S CHEAPER
>not understanding how architectures works
Opinion discarded
>getting this made because of people on an Algerian sweatshop forum

>> No.66964057

>>66964023
OH SHIT MY GRAPHICS CARD DIED. MAYBE I CAN USE MY INTEGRATED GRAPHICS UNTIL I MY NEW ONE COMES IN THE MAIL

FUCK I'M POOR AND DECIDED TO BUY THE SHITTY CPU THAT DOESN'T HAVE INTEGRATED GRAPHICS. LOOKS LIKE I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO SIT AROUND AND JERK OFF TO PICTURES OF MY HIGH SCHOOL CRUSH ON MY CHINESE SMARTPHONE WHILE I WAIT FOR JEFF BEZOS TO PERSONALLY DELIVER THIS NEW CARD SO I CAN PLAY DOKI DOKI TIL MY BALLS PLEAD FOR MERCY

now this shit is all complete hyperbole, get me, but this is how you sound right now

>> No.66964063

>>66963874
Any recommendations on good, cheap SSDs? Was wary of going cheap

>> No.66964069

>>66964063
adata is supposed to be a good budget brand.

>> No.66964077

>>66963994
Maybe I missed it but what's your CPU? Are you on the latest BIOS?

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>>66964042
>Model number of the shit I bought ain't even on the list
Just fuck my shit up. Would've been a nice list to have known about two weeks ago when I was picking out RAM, though.

>>66964077
2600x
No, I haven't yet. I don't even know what version I'm on right now, but if I am due for updates I'll have to give them a shot tomorrow.

>> No.66964128

>>66964098
update your bios it's not hard

>> No.66964142

>>66964098
Yeah I fell for the old B-Die meme too. These days it "Check your board QVL". Boot into your BIOS and check your version number there. My G.Skill 3200MHz CL 14 went from 2666MHz to 2800 after I updated. You could probably return it if you really want and pick from the QVL.

>> No.66964144

>>66964098
Update it and enable XMP

>> No.66964165

>>66964142
What's your motherboard?

>> No.66964184

>>66964128
>>66964142
>>66964144
Honestly? I was so busy trying to make damn sure nothing was so fucked that it needed to be RMA'd that the idea of updating my BIOS was at the ass-end of the list. I've been preparing myself to throw the motherboard back in the box, not update it. I'll give it a go, though, worst case scenario it doesn't change anything.

>> No.66964200

>>66964165
Asrock Fatal1ty Gaming K4. Mistakes were made but the bundle pricing affected my judgement. At least it PBO, XFR, and BCLK all the way to 4.4 Ghz so it's got that going for it.

>> No.66964218

>>66964200
That's the same mobo I have, although I bought mine because it was the best am4 mobo with six sata ports and reviews confirming GNU/Linux support for the price. Guess I'll have to keep my expectations tempered, sounds like my RAM is similar to yours too.

>> No.66964226

>RAM getting more and more expensive
>SSDs getting more and more cheaper
>????

>> No.66964239

>>66963988
>>66964026
I'm sorry you can't read. Maybe you'll get it after the other anon spoonfed you.

>>66964042
GPU shouldn't completely block the fan pins. Wires are flexible, yes.

>>66964069
Yes, they are. SU650 isn't super fast, but its endurance is decent enough.
>>66964063
MX500 is about the same performance as an 860Evo but generally cheaper. Like the 1TB is only $180 or so at times, and 500Gb almost half that.
Then you have cache-less SSDs that are still fast and a little cheaper like WD Blue, SU900, Mushkin Source, etc.
The Team Group 3D lite one seems to be decent enough, but I haven't seen a proper review and test of it. But seems to be in the above group of fast enough 3D NAND but no cache.

>>66964226
Different fabs.

>> No.66964251

>>66964218
Yeah the news about board manufacturers massaging the spec lists spooked me, but since I can get the clocks I do we can feel pretty good about the quality of our CPU power delivery.

>> No.66964271

>>66964200
If the XMP profile isn't working properly you could try Ryzen DRAM Calculator
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/ryzen-dram-calculator/

>> No.66964277

>>66964271
Neat. Thanks senpai.

>> No.66964305

>>66964277
No problem, use Thaiphoon Burner to get the details needed

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How's this looking lads?
Updated some of the parts from suggestions in the last thread. The purpose of this PC will be gaming and data analysis work with python and SQL
I'm aware the PSU is overkill but for the same price as a lesser version I figured why not

>> No.66964350

>>66964314
Seems expensive for that model of GPU. Are there not any closer to $250 at the moment which aren't shit?
650W would be more than enough.
Do you even need a 1TB HDD when you have an SSD?
Why wouldn't you get the Meshify C instead?

And holy fuck that memory is almost 1/3rd your build's cost. Do you need 32Gb of fast RAM that badly?

>> No.66964362

>>66964314
Question is, can your video card play both versions of skyrim?

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>Grab both the bridge update and the newest update for the motherboard
>Check and see what version it's at
>It's only two minor versions behind the newest
>Update anyways
>Redo the settings I had before
>It manages to somehow regress from 2666 stable to only POSTing with 2400 or less
Guess I'll give >>66964271 a try and hope for the best.

>> No.66964401

>>66964314
If you're near a Microcenter this would be better and cheaper
http://www.microcenter.com/product/5001842/AMD_Ryzen_7_2700X_with_Wraith_Prism_Cooler,_ASUS_ROG_Strix_X470-F_Gaming_CPU-Motherboard_Bundle
Looks good, I'd get the MK2 OC or the Sapphire Nitro+ (check Newegg) and a Supernova G3 or a Focus Gold Plus

>> No.66964405

>>66964401
>microcenter

I keep seeing people mention microcenter, but are their prices really that good?

>> No.66964411

>>66964350
i think you should just make a few different parts lists so we all know exactly what you would buy and we don't post anything else on here

>> No.66964421

>>66964405
$430 for a Strix X470-F and a 2700x when separately it would cost $520

>> No.66964438

>>66964350
the 650W is more than enough, however, for basically the exact same price I can get the 750W
The SSD is mostly going to be used for work purposes and the HDD will just be for storing porn an shit

Meshify C, while nice, has no optical drive slot and that's a deal breaker

data analysis requires lots of fast RAM so yes I do need it, in fact I plan to upgrade to 64GB eventually

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>>66963406
fucking post it or gtfo

>> No.66964457

>>66964438
You might find it a bit big but the Enthoo Pro M has good airflow

>> No.66964467

>>66964438
a fat SSD is awesome to store programs on. minimal loading time and they're just so much more responsive.

>> No.66964481

>>66964457

if we're talking airflow cases, you can't get any better than a Mastercase Pro 5.

>> No.66964484

>>66964405
Or the 2600X and the same motherboard, $80 less
http://www.microcenter.com/product/5001840/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-with-wraith-spire-cooler,-asus-rog-strix-x470-f-gaming-cpu-motherboard-bundle

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>>66963988
Yeah he's a contrarian autist namefag what do you expect

>> No.66964500

>>66964421
That's breddy gud

>> No.66964512

>>66964401
the closest Microcenter to me is about 2 and a half hours away unfortunately

>> No.66964522

What if i go over psu wattage? like 10-30 watts?

corsair vs450 for example?

>> No.66964531

>>66963988
He's a namefag what'd you expect, common sense?

>> No.66964536

>>66964481
The RL06 performs the best at a decent price
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2904-silverstone-redline-rl06-case-review

>> No.66964540

>>66957849
>CAD
>gtx
mmmmh...

>> No.66964545

>>66964512
how much gas is that?

i'd go to microcenter just for the experience of going to microcenter

>> No.66964550

>>66957707

why the fucking fuck do some mobos still have PCI slot but no AGP

>> No.66964552

>>66963689
You might as well spend the extra 20-30 for a k chip you could get a decent amount of performance from just a small oc

>> No.66964559

>>66964550
Why the fuck would it have agp gramps

>> No.66964562

>>66964536
except in noise

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Thoughts?
Made a couple of changes based on suggestions in the last thread. Its for vidya and simulation / effects / video work.

in b4 GTX1180 is just around the corner justwait™

>> No.66964599

>>66964545
probably would be around $40 of gas for a round trip

>> No.66964601

>>66957707
Too bad, the Prime X470-Pro is a good option but the VRMs on the one you chose are great too

>> No.66964608

>>66964601 was meant for >>66964512

>> No.66964619

>>66964601
>>66964608
if they have discounted prices for any of the other parts I'm looking for then maybe it might just be worth the trip

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>>66964596
>intel

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>>66964646
explain your reasoning or gb2/pol/

>> No.66964683

>>66957707
New thread >>66964560

>> No.66964696

>>66964674
Your supporting a criminal organisation.
You might as well be giving donations to the mafia

>> No.66964706

>>66964596
Looks good, but I'd personally go for a smaller case like the Define C, unless you've got an awful lot of HDDs to house, or need the expandability. The Define R series are pretty big.

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>>66964560

So the 1180 and the 1180TI are set to be released in Aug 30th and Sept 30th

Any price / build predictions?

Also rate my Build

Are the M2 slot SSD's noticeably faster than regular 2.5 drive bay SSD's

>> No.66964728

>>66964710
>So the 1180 and the 1180TI are set to be released in Aug 30th and Sept 30th
What makes you think the 80ti is being released at the generation's start of life?

>> No.66964779

>>66964596
>Intlel
enjoy housefire

>inb4 delid dis

>> No.66966061

what motherboard should I pick? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3jYfFt
Is the videocard/price okay? I have wiggle room

thanks lads

>> No.66966467

>>66964596
Aorus ultra is trash, get the gaming 7.

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