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>Assemble a part list
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find more detailed videos on YouTube)
>How to install Win7 on new CPUs

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

>Use PBO on Ryzen. Legacy overclocking is defunct on Ryzen 2#00X CPUs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3fsVk9Sss

>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming (dGPU optional)
>R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-8700K - Best for 1080p gaming, but most expensive when factoring in delid, high-end cooler, etc.
>R7 2700/X - Best high-end gaming/mixed usage on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

>Only Z300 series boards can utilize fast memory with Intel

>8GB - Enough for most gaming use
>16GB - Standard for heavy use
>32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this much
>Current CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal

Graphics cards
>GPU prices have gone down
>RX 580 or 1060 6GB are standard 1080p 60fps+ options
>1050Ti or RX560 for lower settings 1080p, or older games
>GTX 1070Ti/Vega 56 if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
>Vega 56 or Vega 64 /w Freesync; 1070Ti if you already have Gsync
>GTX 1080Ti if seeking higher fps & you have a CPU + monitor to match
>Titan V

>Consider StoreMi
>Consider getting a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & large HDD
>2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB
>M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard

>Always consider FreeSync with AMD cards
>Lock to 72fps on 144hz non-Gsync monitors with Nvidia cards to prevent tearing on more demanding games

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>> No.66695019
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First for the 8700K is the only Intel CPU worth getting and that's knowing that they'll kill the socket locking support for the new CPUs in Z370 like they did with Z170 and Z270

>> No.66695030

1070 needs to be added to this

8400 is worth it for the price

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Second for shills are posting outdated fake screenshots and want you to pay 100 more for the same perfomance

>> No.66695043

>8400 is worth it for the price

>> No.66695045

>8400 is worth it for the price
If they can't afford B-Die and the 2600X at least sure

>> No.66695067

Neck yourself

>> No.66695070
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>100 more for the same perfomance
It's more around $60-80
This being said I wouldn't recommend it unless they couldn't find the 2600 at a decent price where they live

>> No.66695088

>it's more around $60-80
Except you are posting in EU time and it costs 120-160€ more here.

>> No.66695126

This. B-die rams alone are 60€ more on my amazon

>> No.66695130

What's the best thermal compound for a laptop? Needs to not fall apart at high temps.
Gelid extreme? MX-4? Has anyone tried those IC liquid metal pads?

>> No.66695134

>120-160€ more here
It should be 56€ for the B-Die kit
and 22€ more for the 2600X and the Spire or 38€ for a True Spirit 140. So it's more like 80-95€

>> No.66695135

it's £80 more in the uk which is about $100

>> No.66695163

+30 atleast for the mobo

>> No.66695164

£70 with this one
You can still overclock non B-Die kits, just less depending on the frequency, the 3400 kit used in these tests uses hynix

>> No.66695171

>What's the best thermal compound for a laptop? Needs to not fall apart at high temps.
They're all basically the same really. difference of 5C between them all. they all do a good job. Maybe you could try that metal paste since it's a laptop.
also niggers answer

>> No.66695179

>+30 atleast for the mobo
>ignoring B350 motherboards

>> No.66695181

>hot 'n ready
Also when are you guys gonna better represent intel? atleast give people the option to make a bad decision if they wish to support jews

>> No.66695187

i can literally get a flight to and back from amsterdam + a tenner to spend on weed for that money. no thanks.

>> No.66695205

If you want almost guaranteed 4.2 oc you have to go with a 80-90€ b350. If you want to go cheaper you are playing lottery.

>> No.66695216

I'd recommend the NT-H1

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i missed you. ....

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>all the cancerous old games at the bottom are for intel.
makes sense

>> No.66695231

>If you want to go cheaper you are playing lottery.
Source? From what I can tell the board used here is the same as the PC Mate or Tomahawk with different heatsinks so the power delivery shouldn't be different

>> No.66695276

>is the same as the PC mate or Tomahawk
But it's not, you can't know if they will work the same if you don't test them. The one is more expensive for a reason. And still pc mate costs 84€

>> No.66695338

>Is Ryzen ‘More Future Proof’ For Gamers?
It's like either Steve or Tim from HWUB actively views these threads.

>> No.66695415

have 2 cases, phanteks enthoo evolv matx and a fractal design nano s. do i sell my evolv (have mini itx build) or keep it and re use the nano s for something else? nano s is worth $20 so no point selling it and the evolv is probably worth $100 ish

>> No.66695556

pretty much every pc forum on the net is debating this. this discussion isn't exclusive to /g/

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No one cars about krautland, intelcuck

>> No.66695615 [DELETED] 

Why are you still awake? It's almost 5 am in US. Oh yeah I forgot you have no job

>> No.66695634

Need a rate


1440p and 144hz monitor listed as other and parts marked as purchased are being brought over from an old system I had.

>> No.66695663 [DELETED] 

Pay $100 more for a b-die or it's gonna be shit.

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>being this mad that people buy AMD

>> No.66695703

>1080 ti
>144hz when 1070ti can do that job
that's double the price for the same performance at that resolution so 2/10

>> No.66695704

>pretty much every pc forum on the net is debating this. this discussion isn't exclusive to /g/
so in other words we'll never know

>> No.66695723

But b-die unironically costs $100 more in australia what do you want me to tell him? Or we should not tell him it will be shit without b-die?

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>> No.66695776

>R3 2200G - Bare minimum gaming
I use G4560 (which is significantly weaker than R3 2200) with 1050 Ti and most of the modern games run on high/medium

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>t. la luz extinguido

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>> No.66695840

>most of the modern games run on high/medium
what about muh 120fps bru?

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>missed two separate promotions for X470 MSI boards
>one where you get a headset worth 64€ for free and another one where you get a $25 Steam Gift Card for purchasing a X470 board

holy fucking shit i'm so pissed. how am i supposed to pay 130€ for a board now when i know i could have saved at least 50€ last month?

>> No.66695865 [DELETED] 

>la luz extinguido

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>this level of triggered kraut intel shills
you nigs are REAL sensitive

>> No.66695976

Maybe if you drop the bejesus out of the settings.

>> No.66696023

It looks great, you could get a MX500 500GB (slower but cheaper, if it's just for games you won't notice much difference) and a B-Die kit like this one to overclock the memory more than on the kit you chose

>> No.66696055
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As I've explained above B-Die isn't necessary to overclock the memory, just optimal. The 3400 kit used here isn't B-Die

>> No.66696073

I'm about to change power supply.
This is going to be a veeery long day, isn't it?

>> No.66696092

>This is going to be a veeery long day, isn't it?
why? it's literally like plugging in a playstation

>> No.66696114

Originally I wanted to keep this build to $1500 or lower but being a powerhouse. Then I started wanting nice things like the monitor and now here I am trying to stay below 2000. Did I at least do decently in picking things out?


>> No.66696125

Shitpostanon, remember the fucking cables.

>> No.66696130

He uses a 3600mhz and runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400. Stop lying.

>> No.66696137

get a hard drive and optical redditor

>> No.66696142

Need a cheap-ass M.2 SSD for my laptop. Thinking about 240GB ones. There are many similar ones tho, what should I look into?
WD Green 240GB is only 50 euros, would I notice a difference between some Crucial MX500 250GB (it's 15 euros more) or any other one?

>> No.66696175

Based playstation anon

>> No.66696206

I5 8400
any B series full size mobo
16 gb patriot viber DDR4 2600 MHz
I'm considering getting these parts to upgrade my CPU.
Currently have a GTX 960 and an AMD Athlon x4 860k.

>> No.66696213

shit tier, straight from housefiredozer to housefire lake

>> No.66696269

Good choice

>> No.66696284

Poorfag here. Can someone recommend a build around $500. I just can't find decent builds around this category.
(My NEET ass just don't want to go out and earn money.)

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>He uses a 3600mhz and runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400.
>Stop lying
>runs it at 3400 with lower timings which is the same as trying to run 3200 b-die at 3400
No it isn't, you don't know what you're talking about
>Using aggressively tuned G.Skill Sniper X DDR4 3400 with tightned subtimings
It's a 3400 Hynix kit overclocked

>> No.66696341

3400 cl16 is the same as 3200 cl14 dumbass

>> No.66696391
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This might be a retarded question but I want to make absolutely sure the answer is correct. Can I use my windows 10 license on my new PC assuming I format my old PC? Every piece of hardware is different.

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No it isn't, the kit is still Hynix and the shit you said here >>66696130 makes no sense

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>triggered lard orge throwing a hissfit over consumer electronics

>> No.66696431

Not him but what is this chart about?

>> No.66696438

Yes you are right it's 3400 not 3600 but they overclock the same, jesus christ.

>> No.66696465

would it be possible to get let's say cl 7~10 and like 4200~5000mhz or so?

>> No.66696468

What's the rest of the build like?

>> No.66696482

>remember the fucking cables.
oh my. no harder then plugging in my ps3 component

>> No.66696495

I think w10 license is linked to your mobo so i dont think so.

>> No.66696504

>cheaps out on an ssd
>buys a thousand redundant fans.
Also remember pixels don't matter as much as picture quality.
It's fine to stick with that res size monitor but make sure your getting something good atleast.

>> No.66696544

Looks great, I'd consider a X470 Gaming Plus (Gigabyte BIOS is still pretty bad), a case with more airflow like a Focus G, Meshify C or a Enthoo Pro M, I've heard that GPUs from Gigabyte might be too noisy so maybe consider a EVGA 1080 and this B-Die kit
You could look into cheaper Cougar or Noctua case fans

>> No.66696637

True latency chart about DDR4, lower ns is better

>> No.66696666

Thanks and what are the black and blue marked combinations?

>> No.66696692

They're the two kits (3200 CL14 vs. 3400 CL16) being compared.

>> No.66696712

>would it be possible to get let's say cl 7~10 and like 4200~5000mhz or so?
sure. for the low low price of just $1000

>> No.66696714

I know, what I meant is there something special about those combinations like 4600 CL19 or 4000 CL17?

>> No.66696731

this guy might help.
>My NEET ass just don't want to go out and earn money
if your parents are too poor to get you a $1000 rig you should really consider removing yourself from neet'dom. It's not fair to leech off of the poor

>> No.66696741

>Can I use my windows 10 license on my new PC assuming I format my old PC
that link to your microsoft account is bullshit. i had to get kmspico

>> No.66696759

Why is windows 10 still so expensive? Fucking $120 is fucking rediculous for PC building. It's like they want people to steal their shit.

>> No.66696785

Buy an OEM licence from ebay etc for 5-20 bucks.

>> No.66696788

activate it with the links on the OP, senpai, or get a fake key that people sell on ebay, they are fine and you iwll activate it, but these are bought with fake cards or stolen cards so microshit doesn't get money

>> No.66696792

You can literally activate it for free. Do you buy movies too?

>> No.66696859

I think I'm going to go this route for right now. It just sucks that I have a legit full copy of windows 7 that I cant fucking use, a full copy of office 2007 that's no longer valid etc. I really don't want to give Microsoft my money anymore because of the business choices they've made.

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>> No.66696951

There's a good deal on a used gpu with warranty but the guy only has the card without original box and accessories. Do you need only the card for warranty replacement in europe?

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>> No.66696968

T-t-they will release a B450 board with good VRM, r-right anon-kun?

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ok when intel does it

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>y-you need ATLEAST 12 threads to run games guys

>> No.66697119

bump? :)

>> No.66697142

>similar framerates at lower frequency for amd
>implying coffee lake parts are actually available to buy

>> No.66697157

Nice ban evasion

>> No.66697186

Wow. So now the 8400 is worse than a 1600?

>> No.66697192

>Paying $130 more for literally negligible performance gains.

>> No.66697207

>i5 8400
Already outdated. Get ryzen

>> No.66697241 [DELETED] 

Now price and frequency matters huh? When we compare 8400 with 2600x its not? Lel

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>8400 vs 2600
8400 is much cheaper and even for gaming.
>8700K vs 2600/2700X
8700K beates them by a mile.

So for purely gaming Intelaviv is better but poozen is still recommended?

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Gimme a quick rundown on b-die vs non b-die Ram performance when paired with a Pinnacle Ridge AMD cpu.

>> No.66697312

>what should I look into?
>would I notice a difference
The SX6000 or the MX500 are faster than the Green but the difference isn't that noticeable if you're only gaming

>> No.66697320
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I'm overclocking my GPU. I passed the MSI kornbustor test without artifacts or crashes, but during game the whole screen goes blue and the PC locks up, meaning I have to restart the system. Is that a sign that the core clock is too high or is that the memory clock instead?

>> No.66697321

Any of you have or have used an Acer GN246HL? Looking to buy a 144hz and I don't know if it's worth 300 leaf bucks.

>> No.66697356 [DELETED] 

B-die=+15% more perf
There's no reason going poozen if you're not getting b-die pretty much since it's the only way to reach intel's perfomance.

>> No.66697372

>So for purely gaming Intelaviv is better but poozen is still recommended?
I don't think anyone is seriously comparing the 2600x vs 8700k. There's a massive price difference.

If your use case shows that Intel is the best by all means go for it. But the 8400s frametimes are worse in addition to the typical locked CPU/Dead platform meme. It also hits nearly 100% utilization in 'current-gen' games so unless you plan on upgrading it'll be your next bottleneck in a year or so.

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Is it even worth me getting a 144hz with these specs?

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B-Die kits are optimal since they'll overclock more than the other dies but it depends on the frequency, for example in this video
or in this pic the kit used was a 3400MHz CL16 Hynix kit so this guy >>66697356 is full of shit

>> No.66697395

1080p 75hz for casual gaming? Thoughts? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kzjFXP

Also I can get a combo of CPU and mobo at microcenter for 320 save more than 40 dollars.

>> No.66697400 [DELETED] 

Another ban evasion

>> No.66697416

Shit mobo, RAM, SSD and GPU. ASUS TUF series has become a complete ripoff, just don't.

>> No.66697426

Lowering some settings sure
The G2460PF is newer

>> No.66697437

We've been through this before. If you oc both sticks the perfomance is the same. Do you think oc'ing the 3200 cl14 to 3400 the timings stay the same? No, the latency is gonna be about 15-16 and by ocing the 3400 kit you can lower the latency to the same number. Is this a new meme you are starting?

>> No.66697455

Any info or suggestions to follow up instead of saying "just don't"?

>> No.66697466

It's not b-die but the frequency is 3400 not 3200. Yes he can buy instead of a b-die a 3400 cl16 it is the same thing.

>> No.66697474

Only the card and proof of purchase.
Ask him why he's as big of an idiot to get rid of the box and possibly the receipt.
Also when you get a card you have to verify/log it in on the main website within the first month of purchase to typically be eligible for warranty. But it depends. What brand and model is the GPU?

>> No.66697492

Get mstoolkit or whatever.
It activates office and windows for gratis

>> No.66697493

I'd get the X470 Gaming Plus or the Strix X470-F at Microcenter because the TUF is not very good, a B-Die kit like the F4-3200C14D-16GVK, a MX500 or a SU800 (more reliable than SanDisk), the MK2 OC and a IPS 75Hz monitor like the 24MP59G-P

>> No.66697499

I currently have a phenom2 x4 955, gigabyte 970A board, and a R9 280 and I'm looking to upgrade in the near future. Budget is somewhat flexible, though hopefully not more than 800. I intend to reuse the PSU(800w), Case(fuckhuge phanteks), storage 3tb hdd/1tb hdd/120gb ssd/60gb ssd, and cooler(evo212).
Foremost I just want a noticeable upgrade from what I currently have so i can continue to play new games on med-high settings, second most important is lowest cost with room to upgrade later in 2019/2020. I pretty much always used AMD to make solid budget builds with light to moderate OC'ing but ive been out of the game for about 6-7 years.
Im looking at ryzen and the 580. Which ryzen im not too sure. I likely want to aim a little low and when i upgrade ill put the old one in an htpc or sell it. Would the 1600 be enough of an upgrade over the phenom2x4 or do i really just need to bite the built on the 2600? x370 will do or just might as well go for the x470?

>> No.66697512

What if you just use a standard 3200 cl16 kit with an OC'd 2600 or a non OC'd 2600x? Is the performance acceptable or do you still have to worry about the b-die fuckery?

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>Also when you get a card you have to verify/log it in on the main website within the first month of purchase to typically be eligible for warranty. GPU?
Shit, really? I spent 200€ on a gpu and didn't even bother registering it. If something happens to it then I'm basically fucked?

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>> No.66697546

There you go. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pksGjy

>> No.66697550

For gaymen no. You're better off buying an i5 if it's the same price and you don't need meme b-die with it.

>> No.66697607

should i wait for next nvidia line?

>> No.66697608

I've been checking out 2400g and its pretty good at handling a GPU like 580gb with out bottleneck. Doing/did research myself today cause I also want a cheap GPU that's actually a pretty good step up from my 5 year old cpu.
You can then upgrade in 2020 to something more powerful if you wish with ryzen 3/zen 3
The 1600 if you can get it cheap, since its not being manufactured and sellers are just trying to get it out of stock
But the 2400g is 4c/8t which is quite capable for high/ultra 1080p 60fps and as I said won't bottleneck a 580
Just get a pricey 3200mhz 16gb ram, its a good investment to last you cause when you swap out your 2400g in 2020 for a beefy part I guarantee you that upgrade will last you another 5 years so its well worth it as your rig can pretty much stay the same just a CPU change

>> No.66697615

You can overclock 3200MHz CL16, just less than on CL14 kits. The performance will still be great, this is at 4GHz (with the Spire you can push it to 4.1GHz on all cores or more in a couple with XFR2)

>> No.66697619

>For gaymen no. You're better off buying an i5 if it's the same price and you don't need meme b-die with it.
>100% CPU usage compared to 50%
He should really be worried about longevity

>> No.66697623

is there a list/guide to monitors consolidated on one site/post that people use?

>> No.66697639

>Shit, really? I spent 200€ on a gpu and didn't even bother registering it. If something happens to it then I'm basically fucked?
Depends how good the customer service is. Some brands are really good and bend their own warranties for customer satisifaction.
Others really love to keep their shekels and will do what they can to hold it

>> No.66697653

When buying a motherboard for 2200g do i only need to check if its AM4 compatible or look for specific chipset like b350 for example?

>> No.66697654

Follow up
But yeah. I don't think most will be very rigid. If you've got your proof of payment and box with serial number you should be fine

>> No.66697657

interesting, thanks. any comments on a mobo?

>> No.66697660

When overclocking you should only overclock one thing at a time. But its probably the core clock cause memory would result in a full crash typically

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I feel stupid still playing video games on a 60Hz. Is 144Hz really that beneficial?

>> No.66697671

Here, if you can spend $10 more the SX6000 256GB would be faster

>> No.66697676

don't get a gigabyte one as they're very specific about the type of ram you can use

>> No.66697689

Not him but just get any B350 with heatsinks and avoid Biostar

>> No.66697697

>Is 144Hz really that beneficial?
You play memesports? Yes
You play mostly single-players? Stop care

>> No.66697711

I have a Gigabyte mobo and have to check which Ram kits it specifically supports, while also paying 50€ more for a b-die kit which I can then overclock to get better performance on a 2600/2600x. Is all of this mindfuckery worth it?

>> No.66697712

So OC to 8700k to 5GHz and just turn PBO and maybe BCLK up on the 2700X.
Why underclock the 2700X except to mislead and scam people with a fake test?

>Because they haven't been as throughly tested, yet, and they tend to cost a bit more for likely no noticable improvements.
Then why buy a Z370 board? Obviously too new and not tested enough also since they just came out a few months before X470 boards. Whatever the hell that means.

Your dad sounds hot.

>Steve's opinion
Into the trash.

>1440p Freesync
>with a 1080Ti
This isn't optimal. Why not just save money and get Vega56 which can actually use the Freesync?
Get a 1TB MX500 instead of the 970.

Performance with 3000 CL15 or 3200 CL16 RAM is still very good. It's just even better with B-die on all CPUs, not just Ryzen.

>> No.66697725

>interesting, thanks. any comments on a mobo?
Well if you've got overclocking your future(2020) CPU in mind you'll want to at least get a b350. The MSI PC mate and tomahawk are good budget choices that'll handle your overclocks up to the ryzen x700s. The b450 should be coming out soon so maybe check when that release and decide to wait for that. But if you plan on going all out with a 3/4800 ryzen in the future you'll want the X series of mobos cause the thermals will get crazy and better vrm is needed.
Though the 2700 with its 8c/16t is already too much for gaming and really overboard as games can't/don't even utilisation that many cores and going over that is abit much for the future I believe. So I'd say a ryzen x700 is the most you'll ever want for the next few years so just go with the b3/450 board

>> No.66697755
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>Is all of this mindfuckery worth it?
I'm saving up to do it, it's up to you if the extra performance is worth it

>> No.66697765

Don't fall for the marketing Jews
>lol look bigger numbers!!!

>> No.66697782
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Do you have boobies?

>> No.66697798

Sell me on StoreMI. The namefag has almost convinced me to give up on my desperate clawing at the past and bite the bullet on X470. My understanding is that StoreMI would make two physical drives seem to be one logical drive, and would automatically move the most frequently accessed files to the SSD in the pair. Sounds lazy and error-prone, why not just manage my files myself? But I guess we're all lazy at heart.

Anyone use it and love it?

>> No.66697829

Moved some parts around and took consideration and advice from others.

Still 1080p 75hz for casual gaming

Also I can get a combo of CPU and mobo at microcenter for this too


>> No.66697855

More lose WipedataMi

>> No.66697866


>> No.66697873

>Sell me on StoreMI. The namefag has almost convinced me to give up on my desperate clawing at the past and bite the bullet on X470.
Your essentially depositing 5C into his account!!

>> No.66697887

The namefag has also pointed out that it has a bad habit of wiping all your data

>> No.66697927

Get the combo is it's cheaper then. Its a good build.
You could probably go for the 144hz meme if you want

>> No.66697964

You can't shill for a chipset, that makes no sense. I'd be buying from the same brand whether it's X370 or X470.

Any articles with a byline about that, or verifiable reports? I was suspicious of it, but I thought I was just being paranoid. The manufacturers really ship a technology that is actively destructive?

>> No.66697969

this isn't very /pcbg/ but it's still a valid question
My case has 2 usb 3.0 and 2 usb 2.0 ports in the front. Because the data transfer in usb 2.0 is so slow, what else can I use the ports for?
A table fan?

>> No.66698019

i think what I might end up doing is getting the x470 gaming plus since its only 130$, 2x8 ripjaw v 3200c14, then get a 2200g/2400g and continue to use my r9 280 while i wait for ryzen3 and zen3

>> No.66698045

>Because the data transfer in usb 2.0 is so slow, what else can I use the ports for?
You can use it to supply power for anything that uses USB ports. Doesn't need to be used or storage devices.

>> No.66698190

Not trusting chinks with cheap SSDs, coolers and PSUs, but how are the cases? Any good cheap cases?

>> No.66698238

Human interface devices including game controllers, USB floppy drive for when you need to sneakernet something to your retro build, fun nerd toys like RTL-SDR and DTV receivers in general--do you even compute? Or do you just want a video game console?

>> No.66698251

>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
For the pc: 2100 usd aprox, pc and peripherals : 3100 usd
>List your uses - e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work : Gaming mainly, for multiplayer games I will be using the asus pg and the vn for keeping an eye on some other task , on more story driven games I will connect the pc to a 4k tv and lay back on my couch

>For monitors, include purpose (e.g. photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

Part list with peripherals : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hvJrcY

>> No.66698268

thanks for the suggestions, anons.

>> No.66698275

You can buy the software separately for $20

>> No.66698280

Ya I just wanted to include the separate parts so people know what I'm building

Nah no memes for me I'm good with 75z that itself is a upgrade from my 60hz

>> No.66698305

i wish

I have not said that. I've said you need to run a command in command line if your PC crashes while it's moving from one tier to another.
But given how stable Ryzen is, that's rare unless you're doing some sketchy ass overclocks.

>Sounds lazy and error-prone, why not just manage my files myself
Like you said, we're lazy.
I have two fucking 1TB SSDs and I don't like moving shit between them, and deleting and reinstalling, when I could just have a 2-4TB drive with StoreMi.

But the other benefit is that a large part of your game installs are not going to be regularly access files. Like look at your install directories at all the stuff that's probably not loaded much, like just junk the dev left over, maybe an editor for modding a game that you might not use, etc. StoreMi is going move the individual files that are accessed often, so you'll really get more out of that slow drive compared to moving the entire install directory back and forth between partitions.

But as mentioned, one downside is that if your PC crashes during moving data, there is no automatic recovery unless they've added that recently. You have to run a command in command line through Windows recovery or whatever to make the drive bootable again (You can also get around this by having OS on a separate small SSD so your OS drive doesn't get fucked with)
And I assume the
meme is because there have been cases of people having a drive wiped when they configure and run StoreMi config initially, even though it's not supposed to do that and existing data is supposed to be preserved. I'm not sure what that's about, but as always you should back up your important data.

Even if you buy it for $20, it's still Ryzen only, no?

>> No.66698339

If I need to replace thermal paste, do I need to take the entire PC apart or do I simply need to remove the tower cooler?

>> No.66698352
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This may sound really dumb, but I bought an EVGA GTX 1080 to pair with my i5-3570K
It was on sale, cheaper than a 1070 Ti, and barely more money than a 1070.
EVGA allows me to upgrade to a GTX 1180 and pay the difference too, and I plan to do it in September.

I'll upgrade my CPU later at some point, no rush.

>> No.66698384

Depends on the cooler.

Some coolers need access to the back of the motherboard to be removed, so if your case doesn't have an opening on the back you may have to remove the motherboard from the case, which may mean taking most of the PC apart.

If it's like a Hyper 212 Evo you can unscrew the top part and replace the paste just fine without touching anything else.

>> No.66698396

>EVGA allows me to upgrade to a GTX 1180 and pay the difference too, and I plan to do it in September.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the upgrade plan isn't for the life of the card. We don't actually have a confirmed release date for the 1180 do we?

>> No.66698400

This is torture. Every day I change my mind about what to get just as I'm beginning to feel more certain. Analysis paralysis.
My therapist says I need to develop some new backup strategies for making decisions when my usual meticulous search for perfection isn't working. Yes, I talked about my build with a fucking therapist.

>> No.66698410

It's for 90 days, I expect to receive it on Friday so I have until the middle of October

The new cards will come out in late August or early September, so there's plenty of time.

>> No.66698418

No, not even confirmed to be called 1180. I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped another number, since it probably won't be released until well into 2019 anyway.

>> No.66698438

>The new cards will come out in late August or early September, so there's plenty of time.
When was it confirmed? Last I heard Nvidia hasn't even announced the name of the card.

>> No.66698441

I am going to build my first PC, but i am not entirely sure about my knowledge. Can anybody recommend me some literature on PC components, especially cables, sockets types and e.t. Or maybe reading instructions properly is enough to not to fuck up during the process?

>> No.66698457

It's never confirmed until the announcement followed by a launch 10-15 days later.

They'll probably announce them on the 20th of August, they already booked an event titled "Next-gen Consumer GPUs" or something like that.

But there have been enough leaks it's an almost certainty at this point.

>> No.66698466

There is no way that they will be able to dump enough of the overstock by then. Eventually they will just rebrand some of the overstock as mid-range cards under the new tier, but that will not happen in August or September.

>> No.66698470

You have been saying that since march

>> No.66698516

>It's never confirmed until the announcement
That's my point. There's been no announcement. Not saying your 1080 deal wasn't good. Just that I wouldn't put too much faith in the upgrade program when we don't even have the official name of the product you plan on upgrading to yet. It's not like they have any real reason to rush the release with all this overstock they have and no competition at the high end.

>> No.66698524

Seeing as how the 1080 was cheap, and you already know your CPU is going to bottleneck ti and that you're going to upgrade, I don't see much of an issue here except that you could have just upgraded CPU now and waited for 1180 to actually come out.


People were certain about a June-July launch despite my saying there is almost no chance of that.
August could be talking about a GP102 enterprise/HPC replacement.

Nvidia has sat on stockpiled GPUs for over a year waiting for particular market conditions to release them in the past.
The launch date could be anything from Q3 this year, to Q1 next year. Though yes, if I had to bet I would bet on late August or early September.

You can just google PSU cables/connectors and see the various types.
But if you're buying any $30+ PSU, it's likely going to have all the connectors you need.

>> No.66698531

Me? No

GDDR6 mass production started earlier this year
The PCB has been leaked
Lenovo has accidentally confirmed the GTX 11xx name for later this year
Nvidia literally booked a conference event with the name "Next Generation Mainstream GPU" for August 20

It really is obvious.

>> No.66698583

>But if you're buying any $30+ PSU, it's likely going to have all the connectors you need.
Modular PSUs come with at least as many cables as you'd find on a traditional one, right? Like I shouldn't assume I'll have to buy extra cables.

>> No.66698590

Sounds good dude. You won't regret it.
>I wish
What about a vagina?
>I did not say that
2 or 1 day ago you did. And you didn't mention commands

>> No.66698595

But the market conditions aren't right. They can withhold the tech until the best moment to sell, as they've done in the past. The launch of the new line is a big deal, and with the crypto slump they need it to go well.

>> No.66698676

>talked to my therapist about your autism
I hope it helps. But I say just get the most expensive shit and you'll have no regrets

>> No.66698697
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Can you guys build me a rig for gayming for a poor fag like me with less than 350$ ?
I would deeply appreciate it

>> No.66698728

Everything for $350? Buy a console. Even if you could (and I don't think you can without used parts) you won't have a enjoyable experience playing at 30 fps at the lowest settings.

>> No.66698758

That symptom is actually more OCPD than autism. Sadly the autism also prevents me from having very much money right now. I do need the computer for the work I do though, so I can justify at least a moderate expense.

>> No.66698785
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What if save 50$ more how 400$ sounds?
Consoles are out the question I at least want to emulate ps3 though on the new rig.

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There's these poorfag builds. You could add a dedicated GPU later.

>> No.66698804

You can justify paying even more if you intend on pirating games

>> No.66698806

Best I can do and you'll emulate PS2 games at best. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/niggerhunter/saved/#view=ZmxFt6

>> No.66698820

Makes me think whatever happened to logical increments?

>> No.66698825

Although you could get a cheapter mobo and spend the extra money on a 2400g like here >>66698800

>> No.66698889

It's still there. I just took that screenshot. The info is fairly up to date, the prices aren't perfect but you check PCpartpicker for those. I'm using it to get recs for things I don't know how to choose like PSUs and HSFs, and for a more limited selection of cases.

>> No.66698900

Is it possible to get Microcenter prices listed on pcpartpicker? I am lucky enough to live near one and I'd like to buy as many of my parts there as possible, if they have the best price.

>> No.66698931

>what about a vagina

>2 or 1 day ago you did. And you didn't mention commands
Probably someone else using the same name, m8y

I'd really recommending spending more around $425 to get a decent ssd.

The creator of it was taking bribes to recommend bad hardware.
The guides were also terrible and anti-educational.
Like what the fuck. Recommending to save $10 at the cost of overclocking support and getting an OEM quality board? B350 are often on sale for $50, too.
That's another problem, that it doesn't adjust for sales.

Does SMT/HT help with PS3 emulation? I don't actually know.

Yes, use the custom part option and enter your price.

>> No.66698978

>taking bribes?
Where'd you get this?

>> No.66699001

>ps3 emulation
I'd take a guess since they're getting pretty good performance out of ryzen in rc3ps(or whatever its called) they've added support for that shit

>> No.66699050
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>hp Laptop dies yesterday after 6 years of torture.
>Think about building a computer.
>Look up prices.
Why do I need to rob a bank to buy a computer now?
Shouldn't smartphones have kept normies distracted and left the PC market to the wind.
What the fuck happened in 6 years?

>> No.66699072

In the same boat as you are, it's fucking awful. Smartphones made it worse because all the chip fabs want to make lucrative smartphone parts instead of niche PC stuff.

>> No.66699102

afaik the 2200G or 2400G can generally do at least 30fps or close to in the most demanding emulators like Cemu and RPCS3. I was just wondering if the extra threads actually help in RPCS3 to get close to 60 or actually get that or better.

Other than RAM prices, things are pretty affordable, if not better, compared to like 2 years ago.

>> No.66699112

Any benefit to getting 4133mhz ram over 3600? I know its marginally faster but its also like an extra $60 for a PC ill be using for years...

>> No.66699153

>Other than RAM prices, things are pretty affordable, if not better, compared to like 2 years ago.
What the fuck are you saying graphics chips are still soaring.
You are fucking retarded.
Fucking sad.
I am literally in pain typing this post on my phone.
Fucking normies.

>> No.66699212

>What the fuck are you saying graphics chips are still soaring.
Wouldn't a 2400G be better than what was in your laptop?... And you can also have something small and portal for around $400. You couldn't do something comparable 2 years ago.

Vega56 are actually at pretty good prices for the performance that you're getting, unless something changed. I was seeing them at $450-$490.

Not if you have to make timings really lose for those speeds, no.
If you're running at 1.55v liquid cooled RAM and it's like CL16, then yeah sure. I've been waiting to see some extreme overclocking of the 2400G like that.

>> No.66699223

and now i stumble upon a asrock newegg deal... rx580 8gb + b350 for 299... hmm

>> No.66699225

Phone posting is best posting pleb
GPUs are actually going down mook

>> No.66699231

As long as it's not the g1, armor, or dual, go for it.

>> No.66699239

>What the fuck are you saying graphics chips are still soaring.

They're around the same price they have always been

Have you never bought a PC before? You think your 6-year-old laptop should cost the same as a modern PC with real parts in it?

>> No.66699249

>liquid cooled ram
Nigga what? Don't you think that's going too far
Criminal. Lucky bugger
Oi why are there so many bundle deals of late?
Like PSUs with GPUs and such?

>> No.66699266

>Nigga what? Don't you think that's going too far
Can you show me RAM dies that reach 4133Mhz without severely loosening timings, without dumbing so much voltage into it that you have to liquid cool them?

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What's the differences between the :
EVGA 1050
The only thing I noticed is the ftw has a 6 pin power connector to use when overclocking.
Also, do I have to use this power connector is I am not oc'ing?

>> No.66699273

phantom gaming X and the mobo is a pro4

>> No.66699277

>Oi why are there so many bundle deals of late?

bundles are sold because they have too much of one thing, and they can only get rid of it by "bundling" it with something else that's commonly sold

Either GPUs are oversaturated and they're trying to get rid of them by bundling them cheaper with PSUs, or whatever they're being bundled with are oversaturated.

>> No.66699279

technically it wasnt a bundle deal, the card is 299 and the mobo is a free gift

>> No.66699283

You aren't going to draw more than 80 watts overclocking a 1050 anyway, are you?
1050ti maybe.

Lol. As far as I know, that cooler is louder than reference...
I do like the pro4 board, though.
Maybe go for it if you want to replace the cooler with an Artic one or something instead anyway? That's like an extra $45.

>> No.66699306

Don't even recommend that shit then
They're all shit poor choices.
Get something higher

>> No.66699315

what's a good tower case with at least four 5.25" bays and 4+ hard drive bays? less than $150 leaf bucks preferable

>> No.66699320

>technically it wasnt a bundle deal, the card is 299 and the mobo is a free gift
Technically the card is $100 overpriced and they're still robbing you by giving you a "free" $50 psu

>> No.66699321

>You aren't going to draw more than 80 watts overclocking a 1050 anyway, are you?
>1050ti maybe.
Okay. So you think it should be good to run at stock clock speed without the pin power connector?

>> No.66699326

You can run the 1050ti without the pins aswell.

>> No.66699343

>They're all shit poor choices.
>Get something higher
1050 ftw for 99 bucks
1050 Ti ftw for 149 bucks

Do you think the 1050 ti is worth the extra cash?

>> No.66699375

forgot to mention
>needs to fit a 1060 6GB
>ATX size
>has a window, but not needed

>> No.66699393

$229 for a new RX 580 8GB. Good deal?

>> No.66699457

Did I fuck up selecting super eggsaver for my case? Enthoo Pro non-window edition.

>> No.66699470

HardOCP wrote this as well
>A failure with either drive will either cause the system not to boot or other problems, not the least of which is a lack of performance and probable data loss. However, in the case of writes between tiers being interrupted, data will not be lost or corrupted as StoreMI waits for the physical drive to acknowledge completion of the write before its committed in software.
So one disadvantage is that if one drive fails, it may cause problems to the combined drive.
But that's not unexpected, is it?
It also has a fallback built in for interrupts (crashes) mid write between tiers. I imagine it confirms a write has completed before deleting from the other tier, so it functions like you'd hope.

I don't see anything was remotely unclear with what I said.
The pcbg FAQ also says that you should be shooting for the best true latency past 3000-3466 or so. https://rentry.co/pcbg-FAQ

If it couldn't run at stock speeds on PCIe power, it would be falsely advertising and liable for an FTC complaint.

yeah, some of them. You can get a bit more out of OCing them with a 6pin, afaik. But 1050 is so low power that I don't think so.

If you don't mind a loud model, sure.

MSRP for 8GB is $230-$260 depending on model. And that was MSRP when the VRAM was $50 cheaper.

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Not really cause as of this date I'd recommend 1060 3gb or 4/570 and 4/570 minimum.
But the 1050ti has 4gb vram so it'll help defeat your vram bottleneck as games are asking 2gb minimum (or they were at least 2 years ago)

>> No.66699521

>the pcbg FAQ
You should state that you wrote it yourself
Also I'm just saying that +4000 is ridiculous

>> No.66699542

>You should state that you wrote it yourself
Doesn't change its accuracy, now does it? If somethings inaccurate, go ahead and point it out.

>> No.66699547

Thanks for the info. How can I determine how much vram I actually need then? Is there some sort of formula I can calculate for this?

>> No.66699571

GTX 1060

:-( You're gonna have a rough time buddy

>> No.66699595

Just got an evga supernova g3 650w psu for 70$. Is cablemod the go to place for cables?

>> No.66699601

The longer you post here the more jaded and defensive you've become. By the end of the year I suspect you to become a screeching autist.
Please don't lose your way.
Also I'm not challenging you. Just saying

>> No.66699629

Nah not really. Just know that the minimum is 2gb vram.
Getting a card like that though I wouldn't say will last 2 years though.
Your really better getting a +$200 GPU.
What's your PC set up?

>> No.66699645

>Just got an evga supernova g3 650w psu for 70$. Is cablemod the go to place for cables?
Uhhh.... PSU come with there own cables

>> No.66699670

>still hasn't pointed out anything
>just being a sperging fucktard

>> No.66699677


>> No.66699758

>So OC to 8700k to 5GHz and just turn PBO and maybe BCLK up on the 2700X.
>Why underclock the 2700X except to mislead and scam people with a fake test?

It's true that it's not a fair comparison, but they are comparing an all core overclock in both processors, a 4.2GHz all cores 2700X only has 1 core underclocked and 4.3GHz in all cores is hard to achieve.

With PBO and BCLK OC the 2700X would get better results in games, but then, the 8700k could be pushed a bit more too doing a monocore oc.

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I'll get you soon enough. Watch your back nigga

>> No.66699778

Why not just try the stock cooler to start with? Unless I guess you plan on immediately selling it. It's pretty decent.
Again I don't know why you're another person paying 30% more for a slower SSD than other options.

You also want both monitors to be multiples of each other. Like 120hz and 60hz, 144 and 72. Up until a few weeks ago, there's still been the problem that one or both monitors will stutter if they aren't multiples of the same frequency with Nvidia GPUs.
Some people claim this isn't true, but there's thousands of others that say it is so idk. Better to be safe than spend all that money and it doesn't work right.
Maybe at least get 75hz second monitor so worst case scenario is that you can drop your 165hz monitor down to 150.

Seems fine otherwise.

>> No.66699787

Why two screens if your gonna plug it into your TV?

>> No.66699830

>Why not just try the stock cooler to start with? Yes, gonna sell it
>Again I don't know why you're another person paying 30% more for a slower SSD than other options.
Went with the samsung meme, what option do you recommend?
>You also want both monitors to be multiples of each other.
Didnt, know this shit

>Why two screens if your gonna plug it into your TV?
The TV is gonna be mounted on top of the monitors so I dont want to be looking up, soooo
Besides I want the other monitor for my work so I have my excel sheet o my text editor and on the other the journals I`m citing

>> No.66699955

is the quad core cpu dead for gayming? I'm thinking I should cut my losses and just upgrade to ryzen or intel's new socket with my current 6600k until it just chokes on everything. Would upgrading to a 7700k be a complete waste?

>> No.66700011

4c/8t is still pretty alright and should generally get a at least 60fps+ minimums most of the time.
4 threads?... For a 2200G it's fine, mostly just because it's so cheap and it also has a good iGPU. But it's the only 4 thread CPU that's been worth getting since we've gone beyond 2014.

> intel's new socket with my current 6600k until it just chokes on everything
Yeah. That came out after 2014 and you never should have bought it to begin with.
With a BIOS update, does your board support a 7700/k? Maybe you can catch on on sale for close to $250.

>> No.66700019

Yes. 4c/4t is dead. Least you want is 6c/12t

>> No.66700066
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>What's your PC set up?
Hp Z400
See attached.
With an Nvidia Quadro 2000 gpu currently.
I was only really planning on getting this gpu to hold me over with this system. I plan to build a new system from scratch in the next 2-3 years when hopefully market developments lower the cost of current gen tech. A small gpu upgrade would put my pc in a state that I am satisfied with it, and allow me to take my time shopping to find hot deals on proper components. That's my idea anyways.

>> No.66700110

Then going super cheap for GPU is probably better. Are you poor or something? Can't you spend your bonus getting a new PC?

>> No.66700140

Find a used GTX 970 for $150-180.

>> No.66700169

What's your craigslist region?

>> No.66700179

I'm saying this
since you wanna buy better shit later you can get a better GPU later

>> No.66700208

I have a massive roll of fiberglass mesh and I'm using it to replace the front panel and side panel acrylic on my case. It at least to improve filtration.

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>It at least to improve filtration.
Or at least to improve filtration. God damn, brain.

>> No.66700231

I really love your blogs. Can I have your twitter?

>> No.66700249

I was hoping that if there's some fatal flaw with the idea that someone would be keen enough to point it out.

>> No.66700260

It's not about if I can spend the money now, I would just rather not pay these prices. So hopefully in the next 2-3 years computing costs have decreased and I can built an uncapped rig.
I would like to but have not ever seen deals in that ballpark on Canada. Otherwise I would be all over something like that.
Hamilton Ontario

>> No.66700266

Oh right. Fiberglass explodes into shards when you cut it. FUCK.

>> No.66700286

Fibreglass is for boats though?
>current climate
As everything else goes down you'll probably find some other shit go up.
Never know when the next mining boom will begin.

>> No.66700333

>As everything else goes down you'll probably find some other shit go up.
>Never know when the next mining boom will begin.
Perhaps, but him willing to take that gamble. I'm not happy with the current ram and gpu prices. Also I feel like ryzen in the last few years is doing work to bring down the average computing costs, so whatever the outcome... I'll scope deals and build a maxed out pc in a couple years.

>> No.66700425

Eh, pickings seem to be slim. Here's a GTX 480 for $60, but I'm not sure your PSU can handle it.


>> No.66700480
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My Logitech MX518 died

Are there any decent midrange mice that aren't riced out as shit? I don't need RGB, OLED screens and all that jazz. Just want a simple mouse with a good sensor and good buttons

>> No.66700511

Can Vega 64 play WoW at 4K?

>> No.66700544

computer brainlet here.
Looking at getting an ASRock X370 mobo, What kind of processor should I pair with it? I was looking at the R5 2600x but pcpart says it might need an older processor to update board bios. Does that mean I should just look at getting an newer/better mobo?

>> No.66700553

Thanks for checking m8. I was looking a few days ago and didn't really see anything either. I will be going to Boston to visit my girlfriend from Saturday to Wednesday, so was going to order one of their B stock gpus to her apartment. That's why I was looking at this 1050. It's cheap enough that I will still just buy a 1060 or 1070 when an aggressive enough price pops up, but I won't feel compelled to bite a not so good deal because I would have a useful gpu (1050) holding me over in the meantime.

>> No.66700558


get a taichi X470

>> No.66700646

>$220 for a single-fan GTX 1060 6GB OC

>> No.66700652

Dude, we have a god-tier craigslist in the area.

If you don't have a SSD, go to the MicroCenter there and pick up their 120GB for $25 or 240 for $45. I just picked up a 120 and it works great.

Let me check the craigslist. I know we've got a 970 for $150 here in CT.

>> No.66700675

thoughts on this build?
the only thing I'm unsure about is the monitor, any recommendations on some 1440p monitors? 28 inches minimum.
I don't care about the refresh rate, 60hz is good enough

>> No.66700682

>Does that mean I should just look at getting an newer/better mobo?
Boot kits are provided by AMD. You can either use that to boot your PC to download/install the most up to date firmware or buy a x470 motherboard that doesn't need a firmware update. But out the box a x370 (unless it says so on the box) will not work with Ryzen 2000 series.

If you have a local PC store they may be able to update the firmware for you, but they'll likely charge you some sort of fee as well.

>> No.66700701

buy ryzen

>> No.66700713

How does this look?
The 970 meme is my current card. I want to wait it out for the 1100 series to be launched. I will be using my rig mostly for gaming but also some rendering and photoshop. I will be keeping my peripherals as well as a couple of my newer hdds

>> No.66700728

thank you anons

>> No.66700731

single fan doesn't matter as long as is not the evga with the shitty heatsink

>> No.66700764



970 for $175

RX 480 for $170

6870 for $40, for the lower end.

7970 for $90

Another $175 970

Forget those 970's, here's a 980 for $150

>> No.66700765

>as long as is not the evga with the shitty heatsink
If that's the "EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC GAMING", then yep.

>> No.66700790

SC version is the good version, the EVGA without anything else is the shitty version

>> No.66700796

Ah. Well, then that's something to consider. Hmm. Though with my luck I'll buy it and the next day the 1160 will be announced.

>> No.66700811

Ages ago I get a ballistix sport 8gb ddr4 2400 (1x8)
Should i buy another one or wait even more and purchase another brand with (2x8) ?

>> No.66700829



7950 for $65. XFX is meh, but $65.
(ignore that $40 6870 since this would be a huge upgrade for $15)

6GB GTX 1060 for $225

$300 1070

6GB 1060 for $200 this time.

>> No.66700834

you can buy whatever stick and just tweak the ram timings if your motherboard allows it

>> No.66700837

You don't want 3 ram sticks, you either want 1, 2 or 4 of the same speed/timings

>> No.66700842

How is the EVGA one a shittier heatsink than the Gigabyte, MSI, or Zotac ones?
Seems to have 2 heatpipes and a good pit of metal.

Oh you mean the EVGA one that looks like an intel stock cooler. Yeah. I didn't realize they still sold those?

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>gpus still above retail price 2 years after launch

>> No.66700962

I'd get a 2600X, a B350 PC Mate, a faster kit (if possible save up for a CAS14 kit), a bigger SSD and a case with more airflow like a MX330 or a Focus G

>> No.66700974

So plan B

Ram Price drop when

>> No.66700990

When samsung, micron and hynix are found guilty for price fixing...again

>> No.66701021

Why are motherboard trays no longer a thing?

>> No.66701029

Which 1060 should i buy right now on amazon?

Evga 1060 SC is 280$ 6gb single fan
MSI 1060 gaming is 305$
ASUS 1060 Dual 295$

Please help im a retard

>> No.66701046

Just look at newegg and PCPP reviews

>> No.66701066

Why when you can get an RX580 for cheaper?
>Please help im a retard
I'm guessing you don't have Gsync already so why pay more for less?

They are sometimes a thing.

>> No.66701112


The only reason im looking at the GTX 1060 is that I've used nvidia basically my whole life as well as the price difference between the rx580 and gtx 1060 is like 20-40$ so negligible for me.

Honestly I'm just looking for a card to upgrade from my Gtx 770 2gb so i can play 1080p 60hz at 60fps on high/ultra settings.

My cpu is a i7-4790 so it's pretty old.

>> No.66701166

You can get mice for less than $10. They're all the same trust me
Do you really want to see the ugly butt that is wow's graphic fidelity. Even 1080p is disgusting. Do you really want to see it in 4k? Like porn were you can now see the stray hairs, the pimple butt. And disgusting various shades of a women's vagoo?

>> No.66701173
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This is my current rig. It works but I want to upgrade the processor sooner than the vidya card

>> No.66701206

RX 580 also consumes a lot more power.

>> No.66701226

That's the worse ram to pick. Especially since your paying so much on your rig.
Do you now fast ram is basically a must with ryzen?

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>buy ryzen
Oy gevalt!!!

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Rodney Reynolds is that you?

>> No.66701341

>The only reason im looking at the GTX 1060 is that I've used nvidia basically my whole life
That's like only being a bottom homosexual because your dad molested you your whole life before you got away with him.
>My cpu is a i7-4790 so it's pretty old.
4790 is still a pretty good CPU.
>power consumption
It's pretty negligible, but ok.

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Overall motherboard trays are a 100% kickass product

>> No.66701364

Did I fall for a really bad meme, /g/? Bought a 27" 1440p "PLS" (supposedly like IPS) monitor, and the viewing angles are really small before I see a shift in brightness. The 144hz 1080p TN panel it sits next to doesn't have that problem at all.

>> No.66701407

>all these boomer reviewers

>> No.66701425

If it's a k version CPU you can just overclock and keep going. Your CPU is still relevant. Like current gen i5-8400 performance(not really but yeah

>> No.66701441

Rx 580 is fucking garbage I have a 480 which is the same thing and the drivers are ass. Relive doesn't even fucking work most of the time and searching on Google comes up with like a million other people having the same issues.

>> No.66701455

Some pretty damning hard benchmark evidence here

>> No.66701463

>trusting Samsung's lie when it comes to panels
I dunno really but I know Samsung has a bad track record with this.

What with Relive doesn't work?
Not saying it doesn't, but Shadowplay also has a fuckload of problems, like with it repeatedly crashing and being unusable for a lot of people.

>> No.66701468

Is there a difference between the MSI GTX 1060 6g gaming vs the MSI GTX 1060 6g gaming X

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>tfw 8700k

this is so much better holy shit

>> No.66701524

If you were buying a high end PC, how fast of ram would you get? 3000? 3600? 4133?

Newegg shows 3600 as the sweet spot between speed and budget, but considering an extra $50-100 here could speed up your entire computer, then why not?

>> No.66701532

>doesn't start with windows and need a restart even if you manually try and turn it again it turns off
>black screen when opening and game and then the interface just doesn't even show up requiring another restart
>video recording comes out with playback stutters (apparently an encoder issue)

I went from a 480 -> 1070 ti and I haven't had a single issue with shadowplay aside from the highlights feature in fortnite/pubg not recoding the Microphone but I think that's just how the highlights feature works because it records my mic in instant replay and normal manual recording.

>> No.66701534

>in 2018

lmao reslet

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1440+165hz actually

>> No.66701572

I think you need to call MS.

>> No.66701603

>If you were buying a high end PC
What's the use case? Just throwing high speed ram at a PC meant for gaming is gonna show pretty significant diminishing returns past 3200. 3000 is perfectly fine and is usually a $10-20 less than 3200.

Personally I got 3000 CL15 for $160. No regrets.

>> No.66701623

Using 3000 MHz RAM is fine with X470 right? It's not going to get any faster, and using 3000 MHz won't be slower than 2933, surely. I'm assuming it will just be no benefit over 2933.

>> No.66701690

I happen to have some GeForce GT 1030. What would be the best to use it with:
1. Buy some new processor for my AM3 socket (now it has sempron).
2. Buy Core i3-3240 with new MB.
I need it manly for photoshop and some (not new) games.
>inb4 buy i9 latest gen or some ryzen
Can't do, I'm poorfag and even current rig is more or less enough for my needs. Except games.

>> No.66701731

>being GPU bound
>still buying shintel

lmaoing @ ur lyfe desu senpai

>> No.66701737

I was in a hurry before and I fucked up the link
The 1600 is still great but it was superseded by the 2600, I changed the motherboard because the PC Mate has better BIOS and VRMs, if possible save up for a B-Die kit to overclock it more than the kit in the list (you can see the extra performance here >>66697755)

>> No.66701765

Is it an AM3 or AM3+ socket?

>> No.66701781

Are you sure your issue wasn't not clean installing the drivers when you had another card?

I've not had problems with Relive except sound capture in some games, which is a pretty shitty problem for sure, but nothing at all like you experienced.
I've heard of a *recording* black screen problem in the past year. I can't find a black output to the monitor problem with games that isn't solved by a driver clean install.

I don't think I actually used Relive before the major update earlier this year, so you're probably right that there were a lot of issues last year.

Being GPU bottlenecked is ideal, though.

Give more specific options and examples with your prices. AMD Phenom II X4 965 might be alright if your motherboard can run that but a 2c/4th is probably fine for your use case a swell, maybe better.
I am assuming you have DDR3 not DDR2, right?

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>thinking everything is GPU bound

heh...poor little weeb...

>> No.66701809

AM3. It's a good old MA785GT-UD3H.

Though I need to change it too 'cause there's something funny happened with the sound. But I can live with it for now.

>> No.66701823

I think the best thing you can get on that motherboard is a Phenom II X6.
If you need to change the motherboard, I would look heavily into a Ryzen 3 2200G. It's cheap af.

>> No.66701859

Is 3GB of VRAM still decent for 1080p?

>> No.66701863


You are though, especially in games at that res.

>> No.66701886

Ok thanks. Is the 7 worth getting over the 5?

>> No.66701940

Looks great, you could get the 2700X and the Strix X470-F at Microcenter for less, a B-Die kit, a cheaper MX500, a cheaper PSU and a 144Hz G-Sync TN monitor because IPS would cost $140 more. Why the full tower instead of a mid?

>> No.66701955

I need some high speed 120mm fans
I remember there was a manufacturer of cooling fans like delta but not delta and they had good stuff
anyone know what I'm talking about?

>> No.66701961

it depends

>> No.66701986

I forgot if possible get a MX500 instead of the SU800 because I remember reading it slowed down when maxed out. You mean the 2700? It depends, if you're only gaming I'd stick with the 2600X and B-Die

>> No.66701991

Don't you talk shit about Rodney.

>> No.66702014

>Are you sure your issue wasn't not clean installing the drivers when you had another card?
yes. considering there are a whole load of other people having the same problem i know it's not on my end

>> No.66702031

2700X is only 100MHz increase over the 2600X. You're better off doing a BCLK increase on the 2600X for gaming.
The gaming performance between them is pretty similar. If you want even more gaming performance, you're better off saving your money and getting the 3700X next year which is expected to be a pretty big performance increase.
Also better to spend your money on faster B-die RAM like the other anon said.

There are quite a few games currently which use over 3GB at 1080p.
Even when you don't max them out, like Titanfall 2.
So no, I do not recommend less than 4GB of VRAM, unless it's just some cheap 2GB card for light gaming.

Ya, I find quite a bit from a year ago, but nothing recent.

>> No.66702051

Ok thanks

>> No.66702055

>It's cheap af.
It's not cheap for me. The cheapest I can get Ryzen, MB and memory is $200+. While I can get i3-3240 with MB for $65 and keep the memory.

>> No.66702068

The Prime X470-Pro is decent but the VRMs on the Strix X470-F are a lot better. I'd get a B-Die kit like the F4-3200C14D-16GVK to overclock it more than the one on your list, a MX500 250GB and the RX 580 MK2 OC

>> No.66702078


>There are quite a few games currently which use over 3GB at 1080p.
it still averages over 60 fps even at very high. just because it uses more vram (as a cache or something else) on other gpu doesn't mean it won't accommodate for lower vram or older cards with lower vram


only game i've seen it completely break on is re7 but i'm sure nvidia has released a driver to fix the vram issue so it doesn't go past a certain point, like with the 970.

>> No.66702082

Is there any price point builds here?
Can't find it in OP

>> No.66702089

You're comparing new tech to something that's fairly old. It's obviously going to be cheaper. It'll also perform worse as well. It would be better to just save up more. Otherwise you're investing more into a build just to eventually have to upgrade anyway. I mean do what you gotta do, but it's a bad decision to invest in dead tech when it'll still won't be a massive upgrade to what you already have.

>> No.66702095

logical increments website
don't completely build around their price point builds though just use it as a rough guide and make a pcpartpicker list out of it and post it here or any pc building forum and people will tell you which parts will be the best to change based on current deals

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Averages aren't the problem. It's the 0.1% and 1% minimums.

Funny. The same fucking source has completely different results 18 months later.
Hardware Unboxed / Techspot is garbage.

>> No.66702146

he mentioned this difference in one of his videos as did adoredtv. he was using different settings or something. nevertheless, the 3gb 1060 is still completely fine at 1080p for 99.9% of games and the worst case scenario will be just using medium textures in those 2 or 3 out of 1000 games which rape vram.
even open world games like fallout 4 with everything maxed except godrays only uses about ~2.5gb vram on my 1070

>> No.66702202

actually i just tested it and it was using about 1.9-2.1gb vram when exploring the world

>> No.66702234

New thread

>> No.66702247

How can lower settings make a worse fucking result?
The Techspot one says "very high quality".
Both the high and very high on the other test are lower fps.

Maybe they should be more fucking clear about what settings they use like guru3d, gamer's nexus, etc are.
Again, they're just garbage.

>fine at 1080p for 99.9%
This is true only because 99.9% of games includes decades of releases.
But if you look at releases from the last 2 or 3 years, it's far from that number and I'd recommend 4Gb minimum.

>> No.66702290

>But if you look at releases from the last 2 or 3 years, it's far from that number and I'd recommend 4Gb minimum.
even from 2-3 years i can only think of 2 games being re7 and titanfall 2. in that time there's been probably over 30 AAA releases

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>> No.66702614

What constitutes b-die, 3000+ at sub-13?

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