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>> No.66394293

Are topres mechanical?

>> No.66394330
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Got my SA Oblivion set today, ordered it a year ago but it was worth the wait. Completely forgot I even bought it.

Damn I love these caps.

>> No.66394342

Board is a Leopold 750R

>> No.66394358


>> No.66394367

No, it's doubleshot ABS.

>> No.66394368

Does anyone know where I can get a replacement Realforce right alt?
I uh
broke mine

>> No.66394378

I just use a cheap $30 whatever keyboard and I work in a big tech company
you people are fucking retarded

>> No.66394381

The stock caps are PBT, I honestly wish I had two boards because the stock caps were very nice to use.

>> No.66394382

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Blue or brown, clones accepted
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
Rubber dome, this would be my first mechanical keyboard

>> No.66394496

I had a similarly low budget, and about same expectations. Also first mech for me too.
Went with a Model M for $50 (the keyboard was only like $30, the rest was shipping and getting some missing keycaps and a replacement for a broken leg), never regretted it.
If not being TKL and being a bit louder / harder is not that much of an inconvinience (wasn't a dealbreaker for me desu) it's absolutely the best, especially considering value/price ratio.

>> No.66394497

I just use a stick and draw in the dirt and I'm motherfucking Bill Gates, you're fucking retarded

>> No.66394511

>I work in a big tech company
t. apple store "genius"

>> No.66394557

Thanks for making a clean thread.
My son really likes clicky keyboards and I'll browse these threads with him.
I make sure they're safe first but you can't safeguard against the old thread.

>> No.66394575

Thank you.
I gave a look and European sellers seems prohibitive, so I guess I have to buy from USA, waiting a good offer around 50-70€

>> No.66394666

I found it where i never expected, on a national site from my country, so be sure to check those out too.

>> No.66394711

Are Unicomps worth the extra money or should I just lurk on eBay for a model M?

>> No.66394788

Model m has better build quality and input is analog (instant )

>> No.66394800

I got replacement keys from them for my M and they made a big difference. The fresh boards are probably really nice.

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>> No.66395263

Other thread was first. Don't sulk like an infant, next time be quicker. OP is a faggot.

>> No.66395492

What keyboard?

>> No.66395515

topre vs reds/blacks?

tempted to go from fc660m to fc660c but im not sure the doubled price tag is really worth it.

>> No.66395551

It's totally worth it, stock linears are shit compared to topre.
Closest linear is like a lubed good one but they're very different.
Nothing stock with MX is gonna come close to topre you need like ergoclear, holypanda, etc

>> No.66395584

whats so good about the switch?

>> No.66395651
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Well actually a lot of people don't like topre in the grand scheme of things. My point is that it's strictly better than STOCK mx switches. If you buy a hotswap board or DIY kit you gain the ability to change around housing/stem/spring and add lube which makes just about everything way fucking better.
Have had an fc660c for about 4 months now and still every time I type on it I get off on how good it feels.
In comparison my stock prebuilt boards feel less refined and are worse to type and play vidya on.
pic related is where im drawing my opinion from, not pulling it from my ass

>> No.66396956

tmobile ceo uses an hhkb. look at all the söyboys posting theres on his timeline https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/1008382228018196482

>> No.66397884
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So I posted about three months ago here, when my old keyboard's shift broke, and replaced it with a vintage German Model M we had in a cupboard. (like pic)
Here are my experiences:
At first I found it really odd to type on it, but over time I've gotten to appreciate it. It's pleasant to use, and I don't even notice the clicking sounds anymore, which I found supremely loud at first. It's really not ideal for gaming though.
Also,I feel a lot more...wear in my hands - if that makes sense? Because you have to push the buttons down so hard. I haven't had signs of carpal tunnel before, but using this model M might be a sure way of getting it for me.

I think I vastly prefer modern, conventional keyboards over this one, but I can't help but genuinely admire the build quality, and the sturdiness of this old model M. I'll order a new keyboard later, but I'll definitely hang onto this IBM and place it back in the cupboard, where it'll stay safe, and ready to use in the future, should I or anyone else want it later.

>> No.66399521

Do you consider a dome with slider mechanical?

>> No.66399541

>spending 30 whole claps on a whatever rubberdome

>> No.66399567

Currently have:
>Dell AT102W
>Chink Topre clone
What do I get next?

I want something tactile but quiet.

>> No.66399579

Matias Quiet Click

>> No.66399587

Heard that they aren't that reliable and the stem wobbles too much.

>> No.66399637


>> No.66399784

reminder Topre is overpriced mushy shit

>> No.66399815
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Showing off my autism

>> No.66400064

the optimal mechanical keyboard atm is 30$ thou the q700 from taobao red switch feel and 0.2ms input speed.

yes most of these people are retarded they pay 300$ for keyboards with 30-55ms of lag.

>> No.66400120

preach the truth brother

>> No.66400337

>muh lag
How important is that if all I do is program and shitpost on /g/? In any case, linear switches are trash and I wouldn't trust the build quality from some noname chink company

>> No.66400747
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what can be done
can also be undone

>> No.66400780

what the hell is that you're eating

>> No.66400940

Looks like peas on toast except the toast is on the peas

>> No.66400945

why would anyone buy a keyboard that has no function keys, no pageup/down delete, insert, home/end button and mostly a numpad.

>> No.66401253

That's a lot of butter.

>> No.66401333
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Is this a meme now?

>> No.66401354

bke domes are godlike. They blow standard btc domes and royal purples out of the water. Why the fuck do people hate them?

>> No.66401781

its not a no name chink company its Bloody they make the fastest response time mice as well they are a good brand because they actually make their own internals rather than use old shit. all the cherry base keyboards from big brands use a controller chip form the 80s because its included with the switch license.

>> No.66403957

lol was thinking the same.

>> No.66404821

Is the cherry mx board 3.0 a decent choice for a poorfag?

>> No.66404916
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just picked this up
how badly did i fuck up
how hard is it to get romer G keycaps?

>> No.66405007

>how hard is it to get romer G keycaps?
what made you think you could get romer g keycaps without scavenging romer g keyboard?

>> No.66405045

im not too concerned about keycaps
just wondering
i would have thought all those kepcap makers would just reverse engineer the design and start making caps for em
or is there some patent restricting that or something?

>> No.66405076

iirc logitech has patent for romer g keycaps

>> No.66405105

ah rip
oh well these keycaps arent bad
they included some alt keycaps for wasd and 12345
main problem is the bump on f and j
they shoulda included those as extras too
annoyed they put le gaming > actually typing

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>> No.66405541
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those are some pretty good-looking caps

>how hard is it to get romer G keycaps?
it's possible but not cheap. it's actually quite expensive. my nephew has, not too shockingly, "lost" several keycaps on his board. When I looked it was $50 for a complete set of rober g keycaps. A cheap mechanical keyboard can be had for less.

they would probably be expensive either way since there would be little demand for them compared to mx standard caps.

>> No.66405894

What keyboard would a boomer use

>> No.66405918
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My (legit boomer, not meme boomer) father got an ergo keyboard even though he hunts and pecks.

>> No.66405942


>> No.66406759

I bought a k type

i only slightly regret it because I really like typing on it but the caps were gross and the software is dead

>> No.66406767

>red switch

>> No.66406772

My father has this keyboard.

But he's a crusty SDET

>> No.66407490
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brought it home to be with the family. Hopefully my neighbors can't hear it.

>> No.66407508

Was there an earthquake, anon? Are you okay?

>> No.66407517

good board.

>> No.66407608
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no I am sideway now :(

>> No.66407618

Well, at least your patrician choice in pointing devices will be easy to use.

>> No.66407888

Your pic is on Wikipedia. Did you edit the page?

>> No.66407897

I got the pic from Wikipedia. I don't have a picture of my dad's keyboard because I'm not an autist.

>> No.66407933

So what's the fucking big deal with HHKB? Why would you intentionally remove modifier keys for your palms and thumbs? It's just degeneracy. I get you don't need arrows, numpad, even number row, but what the fuck are you going to modify with now?

>> No.66407939
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just bought mine today :)

>> No.66407942

what do you mean? it has the same modifiers as any other keyboard

>> No.66407971

So is there a big difference in the tactile "feel" of browns when compared to blues or it is just a thing of clickiness (sound)? To put it simply, are blues browns that click?

>> No.66407987

wtf why is tribosys $35 from zeal when it's like $5 everywhere else

>> No.66408009

Hey guys, got all my pieces for first time build. But I need a soldering iron and solder. Anyone got recommendations for one on Amazon? I get a discount there

>> No.66408010

Nah, mate. Their tactility is different. Get a sampler set.

>> No.66408018

Hakko or Weller. Accept no substitutes.

>> No.66408031

Thanks, but hell, these sampler sets are really pricey. I guess I'll just go with browns since I don't want to wake up my girlfriend everytime I am shitposting.

>> No.66408046

Reasonable. It's a mindnumbingly expensive hobby. Don't spend money you need to eat or make the lady happy.

>> No.66408054

just go to a box store and try out some switches nigga

>> No.66408056

>having a girlfriend
Are you gay or something? In any case, the blues aren't unreasonably loud and I like the feel better than browns (but that's just my opinion).

Also, a sampler thing is like $15. If you're already $100 or more on a keyboard, it's not that unreasonable.

>> No.66408084
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Are BOX Royals the end to the scammer known as Zeal?

>> No.66408098

With a heavier spring like the navy swapped in it, i'd say absolutely yes

>> No.66408108

There aren't any close to where I live.

I would really like to have that nice tactile feel of blues, but I use the computer late at night so even a membrane keyboard like the Logitech K120 makes a considerable amount of noise against the silent background of late night. I'll go for browns, I guess.

My budget isn't that high so I can't really go for the sample kit because I can use that money for the keyboard itself.

>> No.66408128

just know that the sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism of the switch, and that goes for blues as well

>> No.66408167

GFanon here. Planning to get a MagicForce 68 with browns. Read some reviews and seems like a good option for a first timer. Anything I should know?

>> No.66408188

I own some Navys, are you memeing or is this actually a good idea?

>> No.66408195

It's a good idea but it depends.

>> No.66408200

I'm not memeing, you can even just try it out with swapping one switch. It feels nicer and some lube on the spring makes it even better and eliminates any spring pinging. It's probably what the novelias are gonna be like too

>> No.66408228

browns are pretty shitty
don't know where you are but usually large electronics stores will have some cherry mx boards you can try

>> No.66408273

I got browns on my first board that wasn't a gayming board. I thought I liked them at first but after about a week or 2 I didn't like them at all. They just felt mushy.

>> No.66408305

Actually, after some research, this seems to be the common opinion of browns. Mushy, too light, stickier reds, etc. I think I might go for blues after all, they can't be THAT loud, right?

>> No.66408317

They're not that loud. Unless you're in the same room, it's probably not going to be an issue.

>> No.66408435

not as loud as a model M

>> No.66408467

Has anyone have Logitech g710 cherry MX blue , my two buttons are not working I.e. "m" "," please help me with that

>> No.66408587

I hope you know how to solder.

>> No.66408603

I work in a big company and stole a cherry g80-3000 from the server room in the basement :^)

>> No.66408858


Can't wait to use these on mx speeds.

>> No.66408932

>muh lag
we had this argument before, its marketing fluff and if you really wanted the lowest delay you'd get a capacitive/optical switch

>> No.66408940
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I've got some switches and some options.

>Retooled(?) MX Red
Still shit, still sandy. Feels inconsistent along stroke.
>Retooled MX Black
Smoother, but not as smooth as its competitors.
>MX Linear Grey
Scratchy as hell and super stiff.
>MX Silent Black
Smooth but mushy crap.
Barely tactile. You need to actively think about the tactile bump to notice it.
>BOX Linears (Red, Black, Dark Yellow)
Smoother than MX counterparts, there's a little bit of scratchiness.
>BOX Clickbar (White, Pale Blue)
Pulls off "linear clicky", Pale Blue even more so.
>BOX Thick Click (Jade, Navy)
High tactility, sounds good. If you have bitch fingers use Jades. Jades don't feel like they'll get caught going up.
>BOX Royal
Chunky and sharp. I tried stem swapping with Hakos and it's not worth it for only a slight amount of roundness.
>BOX Burnt Orange
Buttery smooth and does the round tactility thing better than Royal Hakos.
Zealios but better because the dampening adds bounce.
Smoothest fucking things ever, no question. Zero scratchiness. Good weight too.

>> No.66408965

No, they feel completely different.

>> No.66408995
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clean thread eh?

>> No.66409045

>decide to check out mechanical keyboards for the first time in years
>mechanicals available for the same price as membrane keyboards

thank the gods for patent expiry

>> No.66409150

she gave me a fever too

>> No.66409160

>mechanicals at same price as membrane keyboards

>> No.66409166
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Bois what do i do? The tada68 keybind page thing wont load. I have a really annoying shitty bind that i want to change

>> No.66409205

at least in britain

>> No.66409219

i just got one like that but full sized

>> No.66409592

I tried BOX navies and thought they were a bit too stiff so I got some jades and it was better but I still feel like I have to push harder than is comfortable to actuate.
Is it the fact that they're thick clicks or just the click bar in general. should I try box whites or ditch the click bar

>> No.66409627

what's that one third from the top pls?

>> No.66409676

just by looking, I'm not sure on the board but google "Japanese alphabet pbt" for the caps

>> No.66409951

>using the chink flash applet
Just fucking download qmk yourself and write your layout normally like a non-autist

>> No.66410082

Why can't I find a silent switch that's as crisp as cherry blues

>> No.66410099
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Finally a Topre OP

no chattering over one million times

>> No.66410217

>no chattering over one million times
But occasionally fails to actuate. Noticible when tapping. Its a shame it scans too slow, hasu controller solves that though.

>> No.66410225

Its called hiragana you fucking gaijin

>> No.66410274

>But occasionally fails to actuate.
you got a lemon brah

been working on this hhkb for 2 years now, over 10 hours a day (work/home)
never missed a single keystroke

>> No.66410312

idk how to do that

>> No.66410469

And the 4 others I tryed must have been a lemon too? I can tap delete as fast as possible and about every 5th press doesn't register. Of course with normal typing it doesn't have issues. It's a firmware issue so every board has it.

>> No.66410508

>look I can abuse this board to the point it malfunction! ahahah
I can drive a car to 220 mph and then complain it doesn't break in a short enough space to avoid my death

>Of course with normal typing it doesn't have issues.
thanks for nothing

>> No.66410939
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>accidentally bid over my budget on a board
>worth it if I win but at the cost of doing extra shifts to pay off my bike insurance

>> No.66411012

>m-m-m-my hhkb is FLAWLESS I say!
A cherry mx board has worse registry issues on paper, yet they haven't failed me with the same test, explain that.

>> No.66411311

If I buy a keyboard in the US layout then get some keycaps in the UK layout, will they be interchangeable?

>> No.66411538

butter helps the process of absorbing those beans into your system

>> No.66411811

It's not hard and the documentation is pretty good for the basics. I used it for distilled autism and had to go through some trial and error, but if you're not playing 4D chess with the layers you shouldn't have much problem.

>spending money on an expensive hobby when you're struggling financially
And this is why poorfags stay poorfags. What keyboard is it?

>> No.66411967
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I forgot I ordered this desu.

>> No.66412032

>arguing with a hhkb user
lol, it's like arguing with a nork

>> No.66412454

Would having QMX clips on Cherry MX Silent Reds make really quite switches ?

>> No.66412474

I doubt it would make much of a difference

>> No.66412704
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I'm not really struggling, it's just I have backup savings that I do not want to touch unless the worst is or has happened. However, you're right.
Also it's a... Model F

>> No.66412827

It would sound the same, just with lower travel

>> No.66412940

Is it a reproduction model F?
If it is I understand since I bought one too

>> No.66412987

>Also it's a... Model F
At least it's a good keyboard. And if you have savings then my comment is moot. Good purchase and responsible finances, keep going

>on the reproduction model Fs

>> No.66412999

if you mean converting ANSI to ISO, then no

>> No.66413048
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I absolutely hate how all the old IBM keyboards have tippled in value. Earlier this year F122s were selling for 250 and just a few months later they've hit 700. IBM beamsprings used to sell for 300-400, and now they've hit 1200. Even the crappy XT model Fs are now selling for 150+
The worst part is that a few years ago I had no money to afford the keyboards I wanted, and now that I finally got a good paying job everything's gotten so expensive I still can't afford them

>> No.66413086

why do people buy shit you can get on aliexpress from massdrop? I can understand getting keycaps, but stuff like this where you can get it for a similar price faster just doesn't make sense

>> No.66413126

I absolutely agree. The reproduction model Fs are actually a good deal now.

From here I can only see two paths: all the normie autists who are getting into this will buy what they want, the fad will fade, and the bubble will deflate. In any rising market there's gonna be speculators so those are gonna have to sell off and improve the situation further.
OR, the fad will continue for long enough that all the keyboards will find themselves in the hands of autists who won't want to let go, and then since there are only so many of the old keyboard left the supply will shrink so much that the prices will stay sustainable or even keep growing.

Let's hope we're in the right timeline

>> No.66413151

The IBM Model M makes my dick hard.

The only reason I haven't thrown the P3 build I used at school is because I want to make an all beige build with my old case, a Model M, intellimouse 1.0 and then shove in some top tier hardware.

>> No.66413171

I know what it's called
I also know what the keycaps are called

>> No.66413191

It's the same thing that happened with vintage cherry MX keyboards. For some reason Koreans love them and they keep buying them up. Even after 5 years the prices still haven't dropped, but rather stabilized into the $500-1000 price point. It looks like that has now caught up to old IBM keyboards. It wouldn't surprise me if some of those beamsprings that sell for a thousand bucks are bought by chinks who couldn't get their hands on vintage cherry dye-subs

>> No.66413333

Should I get Gateron Clears or put 35g springs in Cherry MX Red/Black switches ?

>> No.66413397

gaterons are much smoother then the scratchy MX crap, but it's probably just cheaper to buy springs and swap them out. If you have plate mount switches then just get gaterons, but if you have PCB mount then get the springs

>> No.66413533

What is the best linear switch ?

>> No.66413726
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I've tried a whole bunch of them and the ALPs were great. The best was Honeywell Hall Effect, but good luck using those

>> No.66413924

Thats my vb87m with dyesub pbt japanese sublegend caps

>> No.66413957

Where's the filco and guns autist? Hurry up and do your job.

>> No.66414000

>Honeywell Hall Effect
The story behind "complex" switches like that sounds interesting. I'd be curious to see how engineers at Honeywell decided on using Hall-effect switches and what the original design process was like.

>> No.66414044
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dude it's just magnets, the switch has like 5 parts

>> No.66414107

Sure, but it's a more complex design than a keyboard that simply operates on "complete the circuit, use a spring for resistance"

>> No.66414329

where's a good place to get those fancy cable replacements? I'd like to get a coiled cable to match a keycap set.

>> No.66414458

Pexonpcs dot co dot uk

Lovely cables, a huge selection of options

>> No.66414527

I got mine from 1upkeyboards. They're overpriced, but for 12 bucks the quality is there
don't you'll summon him

>> No.66414645

I think you have to say it thrice for summoning

>> No.66414763

I used zapcables once. I liked them but I didn't really search around so I don't know how their prices stack up to other places.

>> No.66415111

damn, now I want a godspeed cable and godspeed SA cockpit.

>> No.66415288
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My USB port has always been loose since I bought it from Assdrop. Lesson learned I guess...

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i just wish it came in nature whites.

>> No.66415429

just get a pok3r

>> No.66415442

yeah, been thinking about it.

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>> No.66416533

What 60% case and plate should I get ?

>> No.66416552


>> No.66416576

not PCB

>> No.66416581

yeah GH60 plates and cases

>> No.66416598

I mean case and plate material.

>> No.66416608

you need to be more specific then that
just pick what you like

>> No.66416669

are there any pros and cons to the materails ?

>> No.66416700

besides the feel and material properties, no

>> No.66416783

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
Some shitty one that I bought at bestbuy

>> No.66416978

How the actual fuck can you get a patent for the shape for plastic to fit into a hole.
What has this world come to.

>> No.66417004

Magicforce 68

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>> No.66417278
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Alright fellas. Which switched should I got with on the Kira I don't even know if I want anymore.

>> No.66417296

Box Pale Blue

>> No.66417298

I'd get pale blue

>> No.66417354
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this gook's PC to use the flash applet and change keys/macros on tada68 is down.

Is there any solution

>> No.66417366


>> No.66417379

learn QMK

>> No.66417433

What 35g linear switch should I get ?

>> No.66417473

I've been using gateron clears with qmx clips and o rings for my silent/travel board. it's not bad

>> No.66417657

They actually have one on novelkeys right now with a pretty dope looking pink bottom and stem. Limited edition but stand alone springs are supposed to be coming soon.

>> No.66417682

Above post was meant to be for you

>> No.66417726

the what? I've just been using QMK with toolbox GUI

>> No.66417740
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€40~€100 (Willing to go higher if recommended)

>Location (continent at least)
The Netherlands (Europe)

>Preferred switch type

ANSI (International)

>Form factor

Yes (Preffered)

>Previous/current keyboards
I'll be using this keyboard at the office. I use a Razer Deathadder at home atm.

>> No.66417764
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An original XT one in ISO layout. I'd prefer the bigass return key but I'm in the UK now so I kinda need the keys where they are.

Thanks man and I'm sorry I was kinda venting with my post. Still kinda worried even though I scored an extra shift just in case I do win the auction.

>> No.66417821

i thought the f xt only had one layout that used a vertical enter and small left shift no matter what

>> No.66417832

Are there any other linear switches that I should take a look at ? I have been thinking of changing the springs in my Cherry MX Red/Black switches with 35g springs.

>> No.66418087

Ducky One from alternate.nl

>> No.66418097

It would be easier to just get gaterons and swap them instead, unless you have a PCB mount keyboard

>> No.66418126

Personally I actually found my box navies to be too light, but I guess I just type a lot heavy than most people.

>> No.66418228

I would try pale blues and see if you like those. Of all the clicky box switches those were my favorite

>> No.66418256

Need some advice on what to get.

As cheap as possible, I don't care too much about the quality of switches as long as they're tactile.
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Anything tactile.
UK, with ISO layout. This is the most important thing, I hate ANSI layout. Must have ISO enter key. This is what is making it so hard to find good budget options myself. There are just a few I've found, and they're all £100+.
>Form factor
Tenkeyless preferably. 60% would be okay too, but would much prefer TKL.
RGB would be nice, blue second best, white third - but I'm not fussed as long as it is backlit.
>Previous/current keyboards
I have a full-sized keyboard (elephone eleenter) but I started working from home full time recently and having the bad posture promoted by a full size keyboard for 8+ hours a day is murdering my shoulders.

>> No.66418277

There are, or were, some Aula keyboards on chinkbest that have a kind of hybrid layout but with the ISO enter.

>> No.66418304


>> No.66418377

>still using default Chinese firmware

>> No.66418411

Buy used. You will get a better keyboard for your money.

>> No.66418445

You know if you think about it it's pretty impressive how he achieved such great uptime until now on some random basement PC.

>> No.66418469 [DELETED] 

Do you think reddit will buy up the limited edition switches even after standalone springs are out? >>66417764

>> No.66418495

Do you think reddit will buy up the limited edition switches even after standalone springs are out?

>> No.66418505

So when assembling a keyboard with LEDs, should I solder the switches first and then insert and solder the LEDs, or what

>> No.66418549

I'm getting the authentic experience

>> No.66418557

what kind of LEDs are you using?

>> No.66418574

what switches

>> No.66418695

Kailh speed (silver and pink)

>> No.66418701


>> No.66418722

looks like you can do either LEDs first or switches first, the housings have both openings on the bottom for a whole 1.8mm led to fit through and slits on the top for led legs to get through

just make sure you're using 1.8mm leds and not 3mm flangeless or 2x3x4mm

>> No.66418724

then yes, you solder in the switches first and run the LEDs through the housing

>> No.66418787

Found some on US Amazon. These are interesting, ISO enter like you said, but real shame they're missing backslash key. Definitely on the cards though, thanks.
Damn this looks nice, but blows my budget and seems I'd need to get very lucky to find used.

>> No.66418856

> just make sure you're using 1.8mm leds and not 3mm flangeless or 2x3x4mm
I have 3mm on me right now and then seem to fit just fine, >>66418724 seems to have it right. Is that wrong?

>> No.66419048

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Blue or Brown
>Form factor
65 - 70
Preferably no backlight but a solid white wouldn't be too bad either.

>> No.66419083

you're making it look like your dad has pop vinyls and minion figures at his computer

>> No.66419107


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shitty chinesium ones, yeah

>> No.66419309

Are Cherry MX Reds scratchy ?

>> No.66419364


>> No.66420039
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I've been working a bit on a keyboard layout for fun, not yet fully satisfied with it but I thought I might just as well let /g/ take a look.

>> No.66420076


>> No.66420517

thanks, I'll try them. I thought they were the same weight as navy but I looked again and they're only 60g, might be what I'm looking for

>> No.66420571

actually I'm retarded the box navy does have the same spring. I'll try it anyways I guess

>> No.66420645
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the clickbar is thinner so there isn't as much force needed to overcome it

>> No.66420695

>no chattering
>what is soldering for cherry switches
Also if your switches in that stop working you can't really replace them.

>> No.66420772

except you're completely wrong. chattering has nothing to due with the soldering job, but rather the leafs of the switches, and yes you can replace topres, the real problem is that replacement parts are harder to find, mostly cause they rarely fail

>> No.66420864

hopefully it's the click bar and not the spring that's making the navy and jade hard to type on for me then. the click bar feels really satisfying

>> No.66421450

>i am triggered by your interests and dont know how to express my dissatisfaction
>hurrr lmao XD!

>> No.66421834

>Cheeseburgerland, USA
>Cherry MX Brown (or clone)

Basically, the G610 would be perfect, if it weren't for the huge white G logo.

>> No.66421848

Ducky One 2
Leopold Fc990r PD
Filco Majestouch 2

>> No.66421943


Thanks bro!

>> No.66422886

Man, I really want those caps.

>> No.66424156
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Has anyone tried the cherry mx board 3.0?

those keycap profiles look super nice.

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I had it as my first keyboard (of about eleven that passed my hands). I've got some nostalgia for it, but it's really not that great of a keyboard. My fingers constantly slipped off the keycaps and I made many more typos than I made on future keyboards with more defined keycap profiles. The keycaps are pretty bad and start fading after a month of use, the capslock key is non-standard, so you won't be able to put any nice new keycaps on it. And the mini-USB port at the back is pretty loose and reportedly breaks pretty easily.

As much as I'd like to recommend this keyboard for how nostalgic I am about it, I really can't.

>> No.66424206


fair enough

what keycap profile have you settled with? OEM?

>> No.66424234
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Cherry, I haven't tried that many keycap profiles, but I've found cherry to be a very comfortable mix between defined steps between the row while still being comfortably low-profile. Been using this profile on my TADA68 with EnjoyPBT keycaps ever since I first got it almost two years ago.

>> No.66424273

That looks nice. Do you have a close up photo of that keyboard so I can get an idea of the profile?

Just had a quick search for cherry profile keycaps they seem quite rare, did they come with that keyboard?

>> No.66424281

>Just had a quick search for cherry profile keycaps they seem quite rare
They're really not. Original cherry made doubleshots maybe, but not cherry profile caps in general.

>> No.66424413


you're right.. just searched on aliexpress instead of ebay. Theres fucking loads of them.

In your experience does PBT thickness really something you consider when buying them?

i assume these for example are going to be super thin

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I think they're pretty common actually

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They're not that rare, there's plenty of aftermarket keycap sets that come in cherry profile

Yeah, they came with this keyboard, though the keycaps in pic related are ones I bought after the fact. They're basically same as the stock keycaps except for the different color and secondary legends.

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and a shot from the side

>> No.66425218


Thanks just ordered some. Can't wait to get rid of these dsa caps to be honest. Not getting along with them at all.

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What keyboard will you be putting them on?

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>> No.66425576

>40% keyboard makes me a 1337 hacker
/mkg/ literally believes this!

>> No.66425618


I feel the same.They're great but I just don't enjoy typing on them that much.

Feel like pleb when i say this but I always go back to cherry mx reds. Pleasure to type on.

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Are heavier keycaps good or bad in terms of actuation force? Just want to make my keys lighter.

>> No.66426267

Where can I buy German keycaps?

>> No.66426306


>> No.66426337

Why the fuck would heavier keycaps effect actuation force. Just think for a second you retard.

>> No.66426368

because there is more weight pushing the key down?

>> No.66426468

Hey moron it doesn't matter if the keycap weighs 1oz or 50kg, the actuation force will remain the same

>> No.66426755


this guy doesnt understand fifth grade physics

nice. this is going into my cringe compilation

>> No.66426792

it seems you don't either. the weight of the keycaps don't effect the actuation force of the switch. prove me wrong, even though you can't

>> No.66426837

Nominal actuation force: 60g
Keycap weight: 59g
Force from finger required to actuate switch: 1g
It doesn't change the nominal actuation force which is determined by the manufacturer's specs, but it changes the actual actuation force, as in, the force you need to exert to actuate the switch. This is obviously ignoring how retarded this is since such a keycap would completely fuck up the switch movement.

That anon is obviously retarded and should just buy lighter springs, but that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

>> No.66426852


k bud put a 49g weight on your key and then press it to actuate at 50g

the force required from your finger is 1g


>> No.66426921

no I'm still right since the actuation force of the switch is the same. That was my whole point and you also agreed with it. Next time he should've worded his sentence properly
But the switch will still actuate at 50g
look at
>in terms of actuation force
he should've said in terms of spring travel force instead
In the end I'm still right, you guys are just trying to spin it another way

>> No.66427145

How is this topre?

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What do you guys think of this topre
forgot pic

>> No.66427229

wait, how does that guitar even work? is it just an electronic toy that's emulates the sound of one?

>> No.66427247

looks like a regular electric guitar to me

Either that or the body is deeper than it looks.

>> No.66427256
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It is those hip electric instruments.

>> No.66427307
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putting knives on your keyboard adds a whole new experience because you always have to be careful not to cut yourself while typing, I can only imagine the excitement that must come from having your guns on there.

>> No.66427360

That 5% layout is a bold choice, but at least they make chording easy to access all the keys.

>> No.66427369

It's more of a specialized tool. chording keyboards are really only used in courthouses. A trained professional can probably hit 250wpm on that

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kek. Alright which one of u fucks owns this site?

>> No.66428956

>/g/eddit hates on romer gs
>buy g613 to the chagrin of a neck bearded best buy salesboy
>it's an excellent keyboard

Color my surprised. /mkg/ is just as bad as /tpg/ or /wdg/. Some of you know what you're talking about but the majority of you are hipster contrarian fucks who need to stop cross posting.

>> No.66429064

You're actually wrong. Actuation force means literally force required to actuate the switch. It's reasonable to say that if you need to press down with 1g, then the actuation force is 1g. It's not the usual meaning but it's a possible interpretation, especially when talking about a clearly unusual setup.

Meanwhile spring travel force is a mechanical property of the spring and doesn't depend on anything.

>double contacts (from what I've heard)
>snowflake keycaps that come horrible stock and can't be replaced
>brand tax, RGB tax, AND gamer tax all in one

Switch feelings are always subjective so it's not surprising you might happen to like them. There are still objective reasons it's a bad keyboard.

>> No.66429117

>measuring force in grams

>> No.66429166

Welcome to the world of mechanical switches. Some places use cN but they're still very much in the minority. Honestly I don't see the problem, plenty of niche fields use nonstandard units.

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god damn

>> No.66429181

I know. I was just shitposting.

>> No.66430022
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Dude spend entire monthly food budget for that keyboard.

>> No.66430070

This is actually better than what you eat on a college budget.

>> No.66430130
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This is my dream layout... why does this not exist? Can I make this with any existing pcb or do I need to hardwire everything?

Literally hhkb Lite 2 is the pinnacle of design and there is no mx or even a topre equivalent.

>> No.66430141

You can eat better than that on a college budget if you have decent cooking skills. Rice, beans, basic produce, chicken, certain cuts of beef, etc. are all inexpensive.

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FC660M/C are pretty close to that.

>> No.66430892

>buys a niche hipster switch
>I'm not contrarian, I swear on me mum

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Gaming calculator almost ready

>> No.66431230

nah man they need to just be hhkb with arrow keys. Literally only issue with my hhkb is arrow keys.

>> No.66431286
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What are these caps called?
Never knew I always wanted this. Where can I find?

>> No.66431319

I believe you can just dial 1-800-GAYMERS-R-US
and order one

>> No.66431437

Are Gateron Clears good ?

>> No.66431514

Yep, if you like very very light switches of course.

>> No.66431524

They're alright. haven't noticed any obvious scratchy feeling on mine

>> No.66431866

But the force is still the same tho, even if it has 49g of weight on it it still need 50g to actuate. He's talking about decreasing the amount of work he needs to do, but the force is still the same

>> No.66431894


never used it QMK, any guides?

>> No.66431955

Roccat calls them "Titan switches".

The one you posted is a Roccat Vulcan as far as I know.

I don't know if there's a style name for this type as it's not a very specific design, if you mean raised-flat key caps, sure you can find others like it.

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>> No.66432030

I don't care about the gaymen shit. Just the keycaps. Want to try them and I just need the keywords since english not my native language and don't know how'd they called.

>> No.66432069

get them with qmx clips and lube them. the feel is like cutting butter on a wood board with a hot knife, smooth travel and soft landing. extremely quiet too, all you hear is the springs.

>> No.66432143

short / low-profile.

Though it's not easy to find ones that have exposed switches as well as low-profile key-caps.

>> No.66432177

No you need to exert 1g of force to actuate. So the force is not the same.

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Hard to find indeed but I'll look a bit more into it.

>> No.66432236


>> No.66432241

this whole fucking argument could be avoided if you would just use sensible terminology

the actuation force, ie, the amount of total force being exerted on the switch required to actuate it, never changes in this scenario
the work, ie, the amount of force the user must exert to reach the actuation force, is what changes

>> No.66432328


>> No.66432571
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muh dick
and im not going to fucking get one
kill me

>> No.66432621

Work is force*distance. You're clearly retarded so whatever

>> No.66432633

What is the highest quality 60% case and plate on the market ?

>> No.66432649

haven't lubed mine but qmx clips and o rings makes it near silent. if you don't bottom out, the o rings are probably unnecessary but the qmx clips stop it on the upstroke

>> No.66432661

Ducky makes some

>> No.66432673

fine, call it whatever the fuck you want then, the point is to draw a distinction between the total force the switch needs to actuate, and the amount of force the user must exert to reach that total

>> No.66432683


I own one and it feels amazing. The brass really adds nice weight

>> No.66432731

Under $150
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Something quiet, but not silent
>Form factor
100% or 80%
No leds.
>Previous/current keyboards
Some macshit wireless keyboard. Gonna keep it for whenever a wireless keyboard is useful.

>> No.66432760

>b-b-but LEDs
who gives a shit, literally all boards will have this these days JUST FUCKING TURN IT OFF

>> No.66432801


Yeah, just figured it may lead me to cheaper keyboards if they don't come with extra shit.

>> No.66432839

unfortunately keyboards don't work like that

cheap chinkshit always has at least single-colour LEDs, LED-less keyboards are typically higher priced boards intended to supply high build quality over features

i guess it's cheaper to add a hundred or so LEDs than making the case more sturdy or using thicker, higher-quality keycaps

>> No.66432922

LEDs are like less than .2c a piece
the market for having them is bigger than not

>> No.66432992 [DELETED] 

Should I get a Aluminium case or a Anode Aluminium case ? Is Anode a protective layer on the Aluminium to prevent scratches ?

>> No.66433005

What are some better constructed 100% or 80% keyboards without LEDs?

>> No.66433049

brands like Filco and Vortex

>> No.66433058

and also Leopold

>> No.66433218

Why is it so hard to find a nice looking 65% that's not dead stock?

>> No.66433242

because it's not a mainstream layout yet

>> No.66433309

Leopold 900r or 750r
Both use dampening materials to help quite down the keyboard. If you don't like it you can easily remove it

>> No.66433321

what's wrong with the tada68?

>> No.66433396

New thread

>> No.66433455

there's a series on yt by chokkan that can help get you started. you should use the documentstion for anything more than setup and basics though

>> No.66433487

What is the pros and cons of thin and thick keycaps ?

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