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This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required viewing for new people:

>Used watch guide:

>Strap guide:

>Watch essentials 102:

>Previous thread:

>> No.65030789
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First for supreme aristocrat

>> No.65030814
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This wop larper comes up and slaps your Seiko in the ass at fredericos place. Wat do?

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First for Value Master Race.

>> No.65030891


Whats the difference between them? Different production runs?

>> No.65030902

Size. One's 38mm and the other 42mm. Open your eyes nigga.

>> No.65030911


Of course. But why are there different movements? Any "real" difference between them`?

>> No.65030923
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Both use the same movement, but the casing is different. It's identical in terms of actual use. The 37mm is the recreation of the pilot's chrono, and the larger 41/42mm case was done because right now people like 'big' watches.

There is no practical difference. The 37mm can be found in acrylic or sapphire, and the larger ones are mineral glass. You can get both with transparent backs or solid, and there are a bunch of variants within.

Here's the original they based it off of.

>> No.65030928


But the bigger one says 21 jewels while the smaller one is 19 jewels?
Cosmetics only?

>> No.65030951
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The original watch had a movement with only 19 jewels; the movement was made using the tooling for the Venus 175 which Venus sold to China in the 50's or whenever they bought it. Seagull uses this movement, which is the ST19, for their recreation of the pilots watch. Someone on WUS broke down the movement to find that it indeed has 21 jewels, not 19, but for some of the recreations they've kept 19 zuan on the dial for closeness to the original.

There are lots of variations. Mine has 21 zuan on the top, and the two lines of text on the bottom. But it also has an unsigned crown, and I bought the exhibition back for it as well. Column-wheel chronograph for 300 bucks...easily the cheapest one on the market. Though I'm sure people here are tired of me talking about it.

>> No.65030963

Cool. Thanks for the info anon!

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No problem. If it wasn't for this continuous thread, I wouldn't have even known that this watch existed. So, the knowledge passes on. And surprisingly, I'm not drunk tonight...so....bonus for all.

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One of them has to go /g/.
I'm thinking the orient power reserve but that was my first automatic watch since 3 years ago

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Why does one of them have to go? What would prevent you from keeping them?

>> No.65031168

I'll think about it, but right now I'm cleaning out watches that have minimal wrist time per month

>> No.65031634
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Who here /deskdiving/?
Also post watches at aesthetic times (10.10 & 1.50)

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Here. I even tortured the shit out of the case in my leak tester, so I'm ready to desk dive to at least fifty meters and also inside the Byford Dolphin diving bell.

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>americans are asleep
Post pieces of european art americans could never hope to imitate

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>> No.65032405

>24 hour subdial instead of sub-seconds
Literally Aliexpress-tier. What was JLC thinking?

>> No.65032437

Where are the /wt/ watch lists about vintage and poorfag watches?

>> No.65032508

What are the little bits of tape on the case?

>> No.65032514

Do you think one day he will become self aware or will he live his whole life like this?

>> No.65032521

the pvd orient first then the sarb then the other orient and you should be free and clear of hideous watches.

>> No.65032522

Spotted the jealous pleb

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>> No.65032557

Why would JLC make the website that took the picture leave the packaging on? It makes the watch look like it's a listing on AliExpress or something.

>> No.65032572
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Waiting for Rolex to release a new non-maxicase Sub for Basel

>> No.65032581

Is that even likely?

>> No.65032582


This is the most beautiful thing i've ever seen, ALS is superior to PP imo

>> No.65032598


Supply of the current Sub has been slowing down considerably, so my guess is a new sub with the updated movement and better proportions, which is what they did with the DJ.

>> No.65032626


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>> No.65032666

Poorfag guide:
Casio f91 > vostok anything > citizen ecodrive > seiko 5
Vintage seiko > vintage citizen > vintage slavshit

There done

>> No.65032739
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What do you think of this watch?

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>> No.65032792

What the fuck is wrong with nips?

>> No.65032800

That Seiko soylar looks disgusting compared to an SKX.

>> No.65032805

You want vintage? This guy has vintage:


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It's just the angle

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Didn't even notice the shitty image, I just wanted to show off a grail of mine

>> No.65032834

And the dial.
Case design.

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The finishing is on par with modern Omegas.

>> No.65032900

the finishing is unironically better on this than on Tag's

>> No.65032919

Will Timex Marlin ever be back in stock?
I want one so bad

>> No.65032940

I'd get rid of the plated one in favour of a steel model and then sell power reserve

>> No.65032967

>seagull shitter for 200% markup

People like you are odd

>> No.65032981

But there isn't a classic 60s dress watch design AND size out there for that price.

>> No.65032987

It's a second timezone, it's actually useful.

>> No.65033011

I mean it looks nice enough for a cheapo watch, but you might as well get a bambino or something instead

>> No.65033017

You faggots sound like women comparing their purses. I can't believe """men""" itt would waste money on a watch to look pretty when it brings the same utility as a $20 watch

>> No.65033026

And what faggot?

>> No.65033031


>> No.65033036
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I picked up the Suwa 7546 Type II a fellow watchmaker needed as a donor. He needed a new rotor and nobody in the country had a 754x movement, so I got a cheap one from Buyee. I think I'm keeping the Maruman bracelet though.

I got a huge advantage over the older watchmakers being Internet-savvy, I can get parts from barely known darknet sites such as Ebay, Cousins.uk or Yahoo.jp.

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Just got this soyko. It's fucking great. My first seiko.

>> No.65033047

My 5-year-old casio w-202 wishes to give this bro its respect.

>> No.65033050

Does the Pulsar PW3001 use a proprietary battery? It's hard to find any info on it.

>> No.65033051

Aside from a wedding band, it's the only acceptable piece of men's jewelry

Something you will never know as you wear a darth Vader promise ring and an Apple Watch you numale

>> No.65033055


>> No.65033171

If you have one of these what do you do at nighttime?

>> No.65033192

Hasn't got a decent 2-hander that not's a miyota quartz.

>> No.65033235

Do you know the width of the band? Gonna get one and a nato strap.

>> No.65033250

You bought the best one. The cheaper ones are not worth it and the more expensive ones look almost the same but are larger and ovepriced. The 033 is the sweet spot for seiko.

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>> No.65033339

god I hate fake bluing

>> No.65033340

If it's not proprietary, it's very difficult to find. Mine needs a new battery and I can't find one anywhere online.

>> No.65033349

I have a 035, and while it's very nice for the $250 I paid, it's easy to see where the finishing could be better. More expensive watches, even from Seiko, are worth it. The SARB is probably the best value you can get though (or at least it was up until the reddit craze and price hike).

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Nobody cares? Of course not, Penisquartz used to be the worst bait meme until solar stripyknobs.

>> No.65033387

I have to say it feels and looks like a $1000+ watch. I'm really happy with it.

>> No.65033406
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Thoughts on these two, i personally believe that Arch knows a lot more than TGV.

>> No.65033409

I find them boring and just old time normie stuff.

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>> No.65033432

Both are quite basic about the info they provide and the opinions they have. Not that they arent right most of the time.

TGV is quite relaxing and nice. Arch isnt.

>> No.65033445

I hate TGV, he is a fake " aristocrat" and that stupid squale watch sucks not to mention what he did to Federico and the guy from Theo and Harris. The guy is the urban vermin

>> No.65033460

They are both characters. Paul Pluta as Archie Luxury, and Tristano as TGV italian /british nobility

>> No.65033466

Nice everyday entry level swiss watch. On the bad side its a bit bland and souless; the fake american heritage shit pisses mi off a bit.

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>> No.65033477

Wasn't it at one time an american company?

>> No.65033489

What did he to Federico and the other guy?

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Which watch is she wearing?

>> No.65033507

Yes it was. But swatch bough the name and the rights to designs and everything to use. But modern Hamilton has nothing in common whith the old Hamilton american company, its just a new company created under the old name and image bought by the Mountain Happy Merchant.

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He got Federico Fired from his job and shafted them both from his fb page and no longer colaborates with them

>> No.65033511

Probably a Lange.

>> No.65033514

Disgusting skeleton watch
That's probably what he means by "fake american heritage"

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>> No.65033525
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Same here, I don't want to take it off

>> No.65033529

Some chink shitter from aliexpress.

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>> No.65033581

Is there a more homoerotic watch-related video than this?


>> No.65033584
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I'm kinda bored of my Daini too. It feels too light on my wrist. I'd rather wear one of my dense as fuck Citizen Crystrons or my automatic Seiko 5Actus watches.

Also I think I'll put the Maruman bracelet on the Suwa in >>65033371 on my green Cosmotron.

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Wish me luck, lads. Also, all white hands or silver hour and minutes with a white seconds hand?

>> No.65033669

Arch is definitely more knowledgeable but he's not someone who knows it all. Maybe on the snobbery side of the watch game, he's got a good sense in it. He has people on his live streams sometimes that know way way more about movements and stuff and it's nice to listen to what they have to say

I absolutely hate TGV. He has nothing interesting to say and it seems like all he wants is to make a name for himself in this hobby, which he probably enjoys. Fuck this pseud. Archie is the only one for me. Fuck TGV. Fuck that fat fuck Frederico. Fuck Theo and Harris. Fuck all numales

>> No.65033683

Archie is a cuck, TGV is pure cringe. You shouldn't watch either as they're worth each other.

>> No.65033688
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When they're done discussing horology Tristano likes to felch his cum out of Federico's asshole, but the final time Federico just ran off carrying the love of TGV in his lower intestine. This upset The Urban Guinea and made him feel insulted, mostly because the royal seed of a nobility of his caliber is too precious to remain in the bum of some lowly serf. On the other hand Fagerico is hurt from this treatment, he wants to carry The Urban Raul Julia Imitator's fecal child in his grossly inflated body.

Now TGV keeps harassing Pederico with wax-sealed pigeon mail demanding his royal seed back, while Fattyrico cries into his Governor dakimakura.

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>> No.65033724

Which anime is this (text) from?

>> No.65033737

Well said anon

>> No.65033766
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Absoulte dogshit watch

>> No.65033772

Mobile Suit Gundam SNEED

>> No.65033901
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Good morning wt

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Yeah, unfortunately that 'aesthetic' comes with the territory. It's possible that the original does not have true heat bluing, as that might have been cost prohibitive for the Ch. Gov. in the early years. The whole point of the chrono was to provide the pilots with something that was reliable and competitive with the Swiss but 'made' by the Chinese. Their solution is in some ways a little less offensive than it is today; instead of just taking something, breaking it down, and copying it part by part, they at least had the good graces to buy the tooling that Venus was going to get rid of, so in many ways the ST19 movement is a Venus 175 movement...just 'updated' with things that the Chinese want.

Regarding the look, sadly the hour markers don't photograph well either...they tend to look like cheap plastic in pics (which they probably are). In person however the watch really looks surprisingly good, and it always gets compliments from people who don't know better or have never seen anything like it (which is the usual reason). The legibility of the dial and hands is superb in all situations except dead darkness; the dial is reflective, so in low light the look is of a watch with a 'white' face and 'black' hour markers and hands. This is the advantage, as an example, over the black dialed versions that have come out from HKED.

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>> No.65034013

Anything similar to this exist in a mechanical design?

>> No.65034050
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ARCHIE is same thing as the watch snob. He created a character for entertainment. There was one video I saw where he described creating the archy luxury persona. I think it's funny how people on WUS think these guys are real and get all bent out of shape about what they say. It's entertainment folks, and not that clever either. It's easier to get recognized when you say crazy $i!it than be a legit reviewer.

At least the watch snob actually knows a little bit about watches Archy just rants and tries to be obnoxious and say funny things.

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Yes, at least from patek, jlc, and iwc. But nothing affordable as far as I know - all the pieces I mentioned I believe are 100k+

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>> No.65034146

My problem with Paul is that he only really thinks in terms of resale value. The main thing of interest to him is market value prestige. Not the actual watch itself or it's technical/individual merits. Hence the complete lack of any deep knowledge and constant circlejerk of the same watches over and over.

>> No.65034178

All white my boy

>> No.65034201
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URBAN GENTRY, ARCHIE and Federico.. They all suck.
20 mins to say something that can be said in 2, and usually not that enlightening.
Federico sucks
Archie sucks
Urban Gentry sucks least

It's all social media advertising, which I don't mind too much if it was done well, but in these cases it's not.

- Archie is impossible to watch and his cursing gets old. He is better equipped to review escort sites than watches
- Federico has an annoying voice and drags on way too long without ever saying anything of substance. And yes, he looks like he is better suited to review food or restaurants
- Urban Gentry is the best of the bunch, but his slick hair is irritating and he too takes too long to get to the point. And all the top X lists get annoying, especially with no real criteria to them

>> No.65034206

I like how the hands come in a cyanide capsule so you can kill yourself when you finish assembling your shitter.

>> No.65034237
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This guy is pretty interesting. Watch Artsci

>> No.65034240

Seriously no Rolex have display back? Rofl

>> No.65034250

I believe one of their Cellini models have a display back

>> No.65034282

Fake chinese knock off

>> No.65034297

I wonder how many invictas I could cram in there.

>> No.65034313

She’s 15

mods mods

>> No.65034324

display backs are totally fucking retarded. They add another hole you have to worry about and you can't see it when you wear it. I have a display caseback on a watch and i haven't look at the movement in years.

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With respect to Federico leaving WuW, it's usually not a good sign when people abruptly leave their job and everyone is all tight-lipped about said person's sudden departure. Couple this surprising development with the dead WuW channel for the past couple of weeks, and I have to ask if things aren't going too well for WuW? Perception matters for any business, so I hope they officially address what the hell is going on at WuW so no current or future customers lose confidence in them. I particularly feel back for Fed since he moved to Florida from NYC for WuW. I wonder what's on the horizon for him? I personally think that he's a cool guy, and I'd love to know about what he'll be doing next, whether it's returning to his own channel or something else entirely.

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oh boy god speed anon.

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I care bro, even tho I have a silverwave on the way I'm more interested in twin quartz or earlier quartz models.
That and the crazy dials and indices some models have. As I wouldn't expect the same accuracy on such old models, it's more the aesthetic that pulls me in.

>> No.65034361
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and the one i just modded. Luckily the hands are easy as hell to get on and the dials are super forgiving. Post when done m8.

>> No.65034376

Now that is an interesting dial

>> No.65034387
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This guy is funny when he talks about Invicta

>> No.65034416
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I'd still like a Timex Marlin even if it's using a cheapo seagull movement

>> No.65034435

> They took an automatic movement and just removed the rotor mechanism rather than source a manual movement
> You can even still see the unused holes in the bridge

>> No.65034438
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Take my penis power anon

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TGV: , top-of-the-morning-sir check out my signet ring, history, heritage absolutely stunning fantastic NATO straps also squale sqaule lionshark lannister

Archie: PHUUUUCCKKEEERRRRRRRSSSSSS rollie rollie rollie rollie rollie JAYGAR LA COULTRAH shittttttuuuurrrs oh did I forget the man on the FUCKING MOOOON breguet type XX POLaRRRRR

>> No.65034520

Oh God, this big watch meme really really needs to die out

>> No.65034542

>They add another hole you have to worry about
lol wat

>> No.65034551
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Shitters without frontiers

>> No.65034586

What is that a grand seiko?

>> No.65034590

fucking hell
Invicta is over 100y old?
how did these Swiss companies fall so far

>> No.65034593

are you blind

>> No.65034598

Archie, Patek Patek Patek and ladyboys

>> No.65034600
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Like subscribe and tell your PHUCKhead phriends

>> No.65034607

I do need glasses, king quartz?

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>> No.65034669
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Why would anybody buy or wear an invicta?

>> No.65034689
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What is your opinion on Tag Heuer, mainly the carrera wv211b?

>> No.65034694


Looks disgusting. Too naked.

>> No.65034706
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Unrelated idea. On my bench right now I have a can of compressed air (basically high pressure propane for PC cleaning) and a can of Sprite. Should I take my carbonated drink and propanate it instead? Would it kill me?

>> No.65034717

would much rather get a SARB033 for the same basic design

>> No.65034728
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It looks like a seiko sarb 033>>65033038

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Holy shit, finished and I didn't totally fuck it up, my hands are way more shaky than when I last modded it a couple of years ago. Plus I need to go back and change the crystal, or at least properly clean the inside of the current one, worse than a poo in loo special. I need to pay attention to it though as I'm not totally sure I got the hands on perfectly. But that's it for today, I need a drink, stressful as fuck. I'm pretty pleased though, looks a lot better than my old mod.

>> No.65034744
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And like 1000k less

>> No.65034775


It does not. The Tag uses a disgusting font saying automatic on the dial and it doesnt have a frame for the date window.

The tag just looks basic af.

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What's ecomatic?

I meant pic related are electric (albeit not quartz), so I think it would be appropiate for the mondaine replicas to be, as well.

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>> No.65034847
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Lol 1K less

>> No.65034877

the picture quality plays a role in this for sure but the Tag looks like a mess compared to the Seiko.

>> No.65034923

Got anything in mail, /wt/?

>> No.65034931

man the SARB looks so much better
wtf are the Swiss even doing?
shooting themselves in the kneecaps for short term profit

>> No.65034937

These watches are comparable to me in terms of look. Question is, which one do you guys think is a better/higher quality watch? And why?

Second question is dependent on answer to the first. Supposing the Tag is the better quality watch, is the difference worth another thousand plus dollars?

Interested in your thoughts.

>> No.65034941

A display caseback obviously has an opening that the clear glass or sapphire is mounted in which is another point of possible water intrusion.

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Bet your sweet ass I do

>> No.65034960


The real differentiator is the movement. The Seiko movement is ok really for the money, but not in the same league as the Tag, which is an ETA 2824.

>> No.65034963

SARB easily
finishing is much better, hands and lume are much better
in house movement, much more tasteful dial and date window
applied logo on the seiko
less ostentatious minute markers
and that little counterbalance on the minute hand for the Sarb is very good

>> No.65034965

It almost certainly contains a bitterant to discourage inhalation, it will probably make your drink taste extremely bad.

>> No.65034977

but is that worth the massive price jump?
I'd rather get the SARB

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>> No.65034991

No, it is not worth the money

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Yes I am sure you were just pretending anon

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I got a strap for this finally, trying to break it in before I get it serviced. Unfortunately my guy isn’t taking work until the 18th but I’ll be up there tomorrow and Wednesday.

Keeping alright time before service, about 30seconds but it’s hard to tell without hacking and I havnt been asses to put it on the timegrapher yet.

>> No.65035060
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Just when I think you know all the Seiko I want I always find out about another.

>> No.65035085
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A or B?

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>> No.65035125

A without a doubt

>> No.65035132

Go with B.

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>> No.65035160

pélagos + jlc

>> No.65035169

what's the best way to remove the link band from a casio a168? it doesn't seem to be attached with screws or something removable. i like the watch but hate the band.

>> No.65035177

JLC and Pelagos

>> No.65035181

Throw it into the trash

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>> No.65035211

What is that?

>> No.65035218

Is he getting back from Montreal on the 18th? I can start thinking about rebooking my flight.

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>> No.65035275

if it doesn't have side screws just rip it off

>> No.65035309

>rip it off
the metal? how the heck do i rip off metal

>> No.65035349

A, of course.

>> No.65035354


>> No.65035370

That would be too expensive.

>> No.65035398
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If I bought a 2012 Rolex explorer for like £3k, how often would I realistically have to service it?
I'd wear it daily.

>> No.65035435

>not wearing a dress watch daily

B dressy + A daily

>> No.65035439

Now then once every 5years at 700 a service

>> No.65035449


Save more.

>> No.65035538

I'm also pretty sure the GS is better finished than the JLC.

>> No.65035561


lol ok

>> No.65035566

And I'm not kidding.

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>> No.65035610

Doubt it. JLC has some incredible finishing. But you picked a pretty shitty GS anyway there are far nicer ones that would have swayed my vote to GS + pélagos instead of the jlc

>> No.65035621

Le Grande Windyknob

>> No.65035623

>you picked a pretty shitty GS anyway
I probably picked the most traditional European-looking one.

Which are your top picks from among GS?

>> No.65035645

Should I cop?


>> No.65035658

figured it out. the thing it was hooked into didn't look spring loaded, but they were

>> No.65035668

Gj anon

>> No.65035687
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Lotta japshit

>> No.65035711

Brah ref number?

>> No.65035854
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Get that cream-dial GS and wear that daily.

You can pretend you're Ryan Gosling. All he ever wears is small, dressy watches with cream/champagne/ivory dials.

>> No.65035863

Is this real?

>> No.65035927

What do you set the hands with?

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>> No.65035938

Yes, actually.

>> No.65035949

Died with all the others, name bought by chinks to peddle their shit.
Some vintage Invictas aren't too bad.

>> No.65035961

>time-only Carrera

>> No.65035974

The only Mondaine worth getting is the stop2go.

>> No.65035999

Just watch parts at the moment. I still need to find a case I like for my 6497 clone.
I have small wrists, so I'm wondering if I should get a 42mm case to try and make it wearable, or just say fuck it and go for a 44mm Panerai-style case - if it's big, might as well make it look decent.

>> No.65036014

I have never seen this TAG, but the hands of the SARB aren't very nice.

>> No.65036076

What does Archie mean when he says 'vinyl' in 'nasty, vicious, vinyl cunters/punters/shitters,etc'????

English not first language

>> No.65036102

Viral, maybe?

>> No.65036116

Vinyl is a tacky, shitty material to use in a lot of stuff, like flooring or clothes.

>> No.65036127

And most of all cheap.

>> No.65036243

yeah but none if it is nip shit because he actually has taste.

>> No.65036255

>better finished
jesus christ man between those two watches that statement is meaningless.

>> No.65036269
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Alpinist on green leather

>> No.65036327

Ideally a hand setter but I haven't got one so I had to use a combination of the tweezers, a screwdriver and my fingers.

>> No.65036340

Every 5 to 10 years.

>> No.65036348

I vaguely remember someone using the shell of a ballpoint pen as a ghetto hand setter. Could try that next time.

>> No.65036406

fair enough
yeah I've seen that too, that's basically what those tools are anyway, small plastic cylinders

>> No.65036452
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I still wish someone could explain to me why that watch gets any notoriety, its disgusting.

>> No.65036471

People like different things, blows your mind.

>> No.65036475

The tag is made in china, and costs what it costs.
The sarb's also likely made in china, but is much cheaper.

You are getting your money's worth with the sarb compared with the tag.

>> No.65036486

literally not an answer

>> No.65036547

It's unique

>> No.65036567

Lets see:
Grandu Rion and babby lolex?
Richemont and Shayko?

A, if you really must.
The JLC is just not right, and the marine master is not exactly casual material IMO. They don't use sapphire crystals for strength when diving, right?

The jlc is fucking bland, and not in a good way. The master ultra thin line is better.
It's so boring i can't even shitpost about it.

>> No.65036596

So is a rhinoceros turd

>> No.65036604

I don't care if you are just being ironic in your meme speak. Unironically kill yourself.

>> No.65036608

It literally is and there's no better.

>> No.65036634

Yeah, when I was starting to struggle I did try to find a ballpoint pen but luck would have it that the only pens I could find weren't suitable. The seconds hand was the worst one, trying to bend it so that it missed the minutes hand was a nightmare, very fragile.

>> No.65036660

Not really. Rhino poop looks like a lot of other animal's poop. Show me another watch that looks like the SARB017

>> No.65036690

SARBs are "made in Japan"

>> No.65036699

>make ugly watch
> show me another watch that is ugly just like this one

>> No.65036708

You're proving his point. How ugly it is doesn't matter, just that it's unique.

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>> No.65036818
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See >>65033036
I already handed it over to the colleague, but kept the bracelet. I put it on my almost mint green Cosmotron and now it's doing a test run on my wrist. I'll do pics tomorrow, I think it looks great. Also a Lego pilot minifig for my twin rotor set (pic).

Also tomorrow I have to go to the post office again to pick up a package that I have no fucking idea what it is. The tracking number is like nothing I ordered recently.

>> No.65036884

What is a good watch to give a little girl as a bribe for keeping a special secret?

>> No.65036895
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God damn is this a handsome watch. I’d love it but fuck paying £4K for one.

>> No.65036906

Just give him your Amphibia SE, creep.

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20% off eBay today bois

>> No.65036920

*Her, fuck.

Come from gender-neutral pronoun language country.

>> No.65036923

On what?

>> No.65036935


Hi fellow UGWC member

>> No.65036942

How's it like in Fargo, Nick?

>> No.65036964
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It's nice...but I've honestly never been a fan of the lume indices coloured 'vintage'. Omega isn't the only one doing this...quite a number of manufacturers are doing the vintage look...and I really don't like it.

That and the new trend of having bronze cases...why is everyone doing a bronze case? You'd think that looks in a watch matter more than the technology inside it...

>> No.65036997

>9 directly below the 6

>> No.65037011

That’s too big for her perfect little wrists

>> No.65037029

What does the W next to the 3 indicate?

>> No.65037055

Nice that you finally got a different strap for that green cosmotron. It looked really out of place on that thin one.
I need to scavenge eBay for a nice cosmotron, only vintage japshit I have far is a twin quartz.

>> No.65037065

Why is there a 6 next to the 9 on the dial?

>> No.65037106

Ebay is terrible for hunting Cosmotrons, Buyee.jp on the other hand is a goldmine.

>> No.65037187

made in japan doesn't always mean made in the actual japanese archipelago
we've been over this
just how swiss made can mean "made in shenzhen but cobbled together a little by some swiss trainee and or robot"

>> No.65037210

>That and the new trend of having bronze cases
New trend?
It's a stale trend now, anon. Past, what, 6-7 years?
Kinda petered out by now (or it fucking should have).

>> No.65037333

It's a lowercase omega.

>> No.65037424

I don't know what that means
It's 20% off today though on Ebay

>> No.65037445

Did you miss my "..."?

>> No.65037457

I've just had another look at the hands are misaligned, FUCK. Even the caseback is on upside down.

>> No.65037567

Have you buyed on buyeeeee?
Any problems ever?
Or Painal?

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>> No.65037759

If you go over a certain price chances are the customs Gestapo will tax the shit out of you, but the same goes for Ebay.

>> No.65037825
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Does anyone know anything about either of these or where I could find info on them? The listings just say mechanical but don't go into any details, a Raketa and a Slava. I like how both of them look very much but I don't want some Frankenstein unoriginal piece

>> No.65037868

Different anon; I have some thoughts in the used watch pastebin. It's been paid less for me, though I like zenmarket over buyee. No recourse at all if you get something not as described, so take your chances wisely. I wouldn't personally buy anything over about 700; your risk tolerance may vary. I haven't really had any bad experiences. Make sure to read the descriptions carefully (you'll quickly learn to read the machine-translated Japanese) and look closely at the pictures.

>> No.65037959
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I fucking love vintage lume.

>> No.65038001

a gateway to all sorts of new and degenerate vocabulary
Do you japs charge an exit tax or something? (i get costly things sent to heng keng, land of no custom tax cept on ciggers and booze)
I'll check the bin.
Actually, I'm not even looking at a watch, but an entirely different form of autism. It's got a day or so left at nearing $700. I'm only keen because the cheapest I can get this elsewhere is closer to $2k at the moment (they're kinda rare, and there's ebbs and flows as with any such market).
Seller looks professional, as in, this sorta shit is all they deal in. 31/31 "good" rating.
>I haven't really had any bad experiences.
I'm detecting some ambiguity here. I'll check the bin.

>> No.65038047

>I haven't really had any bad experiences.
>I'm detecting some ambiguity here. I'll check the bin.
I didn't mean to give the impression of ambiguity. Some of my buys have been excellent, some have been merely acceptable, and some have been that I took a gamble on a watch that the seller listed as-is and it didn't start working when I put in a battery, leaving me out $25. As long as you do your research and have at least some sense of red flags for disreputable sellers, I wouldn't expect any issues.

>> No.65038063

TGV is comfy to watch but often belies poor knowledge on certain topics, i.e. recommending sewn NATOs over ultrasonically-welded. ArchieLuxury is obnoxious, unwatchable shit honestly. It’s funny exactly once, like a Chris Chan video.

>> No.65038141

Disgusting Reddit post fuck me dead

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>> No.65038282

Option C: forego dress watch and buy the Tudor Sub and the Seiko MM. They’re both so good in their own ways I couldn’t choose between them. Also Jaeger is a meme nowadays.

>> No.65038319
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200 quid!!! These watches are out of control.

>> No.65038340

Vintage Japanese watch process are out of control on eBay in general. You really need to buy on Yahoo jp.

>> No.65038376

That's ridiculous, that's only £30 less than a SARB.

>> No.65038429
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Watch autists have this boner for precisely fitted, ultra-tight tolerance bracelets, usually with long, Oyster-style links, with no sideways play or twisting whatsoever.

IMO rattly, twisty, loosely-fitting Jubilee or rice-bead style bracelets are much comfier since they conform to the wrist better.

>> No.65038504

t. ol' man river

>> No.65038522

>Rolex quality

>> No.65038640

I feel like, when I got into watches last year, I was seeing 5 Actuses for a hundred bucks or so. Now all the ones I'm seeing are going for four, five bills.

>> No.65038832
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Folded links age like fine wine, but I've never found solid oyster bracelets to be uncomfortable either.

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hi tristiano

>> No.65039025

I want my oysters to be as tight as possible but a jubilee may be a bit looser, I'm fine with that. Actually my favourite type right now would be president bracelet with slight play and a quick microadjuster.

>> No.65039058
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I'm just not a huge fan of the way jubilee bracelets look. Oyster bracelets are perfectly comfortable.

>> No.65039069

So what would you recommend?

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>applied second indices

>> No.65039167

Ruined by the cyclops

>> No.65039189

Well it's a choice between an old as shit Swiss watch that you have to baby and may or may not have spare parts in existence anywhere in the world; and a brand-new watch with better attention to detail and finishing than any Swiss sports watch ever had, made by a people who still value their history and ethnicity.

>> No.65039294

Wrong tasteless faggot

>> No.65039323
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What kind of bracelet would this be considered?

>> No.65039349

Honestly, does it matter? It's slavshit, who care, buy it if you like it.

>> No.65039353

lol. Don't fret m8 next time just clean everything up and take your time. Also use a squeeze air tool for the inside of the crystal as even a kim-wipe will scratch that acrylic.

>> No.65039364

Clam Chunk with a pistol pivot switch

>> No.65039376

vostoks are truly appalling

>> No.65039397
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You can still find deals on eBay if you lurk.

>> No.65039433

to bad rolex started polishing the center links

>> No.65039482

Where to buy?

>> No.65039483

t. faggot

>> No.65039485

Dumb faggot

>> No.65039490

Yeah, I need to buy one asap, it's only at these sort of times when you notice how much dust and fluff is literally everywhere, but mostly on the inside of the crystal. I'll be doing it soon though as I need to realign the hands, they're slightly out.

>> No.65039492

The swiss value their history and ethnicity and "much superior finishing" is a retarded meme. The best part is we are not even talking about sports watches.

>> No.65039502

Butterfly deployant bracelet

>> No.65039523

god, that 42 is unbelievably flat and ugly

>> No.65039543

Where can I get a decent blue leather or NATO style strap?

>> No.65039547

>The swiss value their history and ethnicity
They're on par with the rest of Europe when it comes to the percentage of Muslims; 5-6% of the population.
So no, they do not.

>"much superior finishing" is a retarded meme
Until you side-by-side them with a loupe. Then suddenly it's all too real.

>The best part is we are not even talking about sports watches.
Those Rolexes are.

>> No.65039560

Don't force the hands when you fix them. protect the dial and remove the hands. Replace them with care. keep dusting everything as you assemble and inspect everything.

>> No.65039573

vintage rolexs on leather bands are not really modern "sports watches" yes modern watch finishing in general is better but it makes no difference when comparing that to the aesthetics of those vintage watches. On top of that the fact that seiko chooses to use certain hands and indices which they polish the sides of does not mean they have better finishing than Rolex.

>> No.65039580

A pink casio, if she keeps the secret you could buy her some kid jewelry too, also I know it's a cliche but they love candy. Just be gentle and ignore the haters

>> No.65039581

>They're on par with the rest of Europe when it comes to the percentage of Muslims; 5-6%
oh god m8 just go back to pol please

>> No.65039588

GS today beats the snot out of any modern Rolex sport watch. Let alone vintage ones.
And if you think this is about a bit of polish on the hands, then all I can say is take a loupe to a GS and a Rolex side by side.

>> No.65039593

TGV is deluded but archie is completely retarded both in the contradictory advice he gives and the way he acts.

>> No.65039605

I don't have to go to /pol/ to be confronted with this shit. People raised five minutes form my house went to fight for ISIS in Syria. And I live in rural Belgium.

>> No.65039631

Rolex makes a million watches a year that look better than any grand seiko, have more accurate movements, have more durable movements, have better bracelets, better bracelet fitment, maintain their value better, and can be serviced in any major city on earth. Rolex has a more storied and important history in terms of design, development, and notable wearers. Objectively Rolex makes better watches and that is why they are the larger brand. Not because "normies don't like seiko". You setting some arbitrary criteria for what makes something "better finished" and saying that the seiko meets that criteria doesn't mean shit. I am sure you can go online and cherry pick some fucked up rolex and show a zoomed picture of a grand seiko but it will not amount to anything.

>> No.65039680
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un-pooinloo'd poo in loo

>> No.65039686

>I don't have to go to /pol/ to be confronted with this shit. People raised five minutes form my house went to fight for ISIS in Syria. And I live in rural Belgium.
how does that affect you? stop being a pussy

>> No.65039691
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If you like Rolex designs better, then Rolex has better designs.
Meanwhile GS have much better external finishing, and a great deal more manual work put into everything from the movement to the case, dial and hands.

>> No.65039699

>Rolex makes a million watches a year that look better than any grand seiko, have more accurate movements
>I don't know what spring drive is

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took my boss 5 months to find a new crystal for this thing.

thankfully someone with a B&R account was kind enough to sell us one....

>> No.65039718

really not a fan of that particular GS, and the pelagos has the declaration of independence on the dial, so has to be the MM300 and JLC

>> No.65039719

Okei dokei. Thanks.
So with zenmarket , I read somewhere that you can specify what the declared, sent to you, value will be. Is that true?
Holy shit wouldn't have to bother with Hong Kong in that case.

>> No.65039724

>a great deal more manual work put into everything from the movement to the case, dial and hands.
Lol and how in the fuck do you know this? You ever been to a Rolex facility?

>> No.65039726

It affects me in that I won't be able to send my kids to just any school in the closest large town without a very real chance of them coming home crying after being told they're going to hell for eating a pork sausage, or being told they'll have their throats slit for being infidels.

Use google translate.

We'll see.

>> No.65039733

the MM300 has the same amount of text as the tudor and in bigger font

>> No.65039743

Rolex don't even have a case back so they are prob pulling a panarai on half their shit

>> No.65039745

I'm amazed that Bell and Ross actually sell any watches.
Some of their round case designs aren't too bad, but then they're overpriced.

>> No.65039749

The Tudor has more though.

The logo, then Tudor, then five more lines.
The MM300 has Seiko, then four lines of text.

I don't really mind much on either one.

>> No.65039752

They do basic finishing, but no decoration.
Panerai put movements as they got them from ETA in cases, which was the issue.

>> No.65039777

From people who visited Rolex and GS, yes.

>> No.65039786


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Isn't it obvious from the finishing itself?

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Nice, they finally shifted the retarded date from the 3 position.


You god damn niggers, nobody needs that shit, ffs. The watch hands and case also look like pure garbage. The glass is not even domed and its a bit too big. Modern watches were a mistake.

>> No.65040019

They just reissued the original in 38mm for you.

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