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/mkg/ - Superior Rubber Domes For Successful Programmers Edition

Mech enthusiast starter edition
https://imgur.com/a/G6rOk
>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyboard wiki
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous thread >>64956376

>> No.64974721
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>delayed AGAIN
I just want my left handed board
why is this so hard

>> No.64974729

Reminder there is no such thing as a good cherry style switch

>> No.64974732

Just a reminder that if you don't have a split keyboard then you have nothing going on in your life beyond pretending that you have a modicum of creativity by choosing non-traditional color combos on your minimalist homosexuality signaler. None of you fat, gay faggots engage in any activity that requires a keyboard since anyone that types for a living sees their keyboards for the tools that they are and not a medium for the most milquetoast form of personal expression imaginable.

>> No.64974742
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>>64974103
Works on my machine.
You have to manually select 4PX as a carrier in the options.

>> No.64974755

>>64974732
Daily reminder to suck my cock.

>>64974729
You too.

>>64974721
>lefty
You three.

>> No.64974757

>>64974729
cherry made a bajllian different switches including official alps switches. can you be more specific

>> No.64974773
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It's happening (soon [eventually]).

>> No.64974775

>>64974757
You know what switches I'm talking about, don't be dense faggot.

>> No.64974778
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>>64974732

>> No.64974783

>>64974497
I have a pack of Jades right next to me right now too. They feel really nice to press, but I can't imagine how hard I would be bottoming out on these.
On that note, I also just soldered a pack of Hako Clears onto my keyboard. It's pretty different from the tactile switches I've used before. The bump feels more drawn out for most of the switch press up until actuation. I'm not sure if I like it though.

>> No.64974785

>>64974773
You should have invested in a Melody96
luckily theres the budget96 coming out for you as well

>> No.64974786

>>64974773
>final price $199
well I guess it is under 200

>> No.64974807

>bjarne stroustrup
What a fucking faggot

>> No.64974811

>>64974785
Yeah but I want backlit keys and hot-swappable switches and the Melody didn't have that. This one supposedly will.

>budget96
What is this? I don't mind it being a kit depending on how low this goes and what features it packs.

>> No.64974819

>>64974811
>backlit keys and hot-swappable switches
both shitty memes

>> No.64974828

>>64974819
i rather than them than not

>> No.64974844

>>64974811
budget96 is a PCB IC on geekhack for $35
optional sandwhich acrylic case for $60

>> No.64974849

>>64974775
you're right I do. Those cherry ML switches are utter garbage, not like their M8 switches which use superior Japanese steel

>> No.64974873

>>64974849
I can just tell you use reddit

>> No.64974877

>>64974849
>M8 switches
tell me more anon, can i get some cheap switches that have a smaller footprint so i can build a cute 40% with the size of a 30%?

>> No.64974902

>>64974819
>hot-swappable switches is a meme
Switch removal is only 10 minutes for me with access to a Hakko fr-400, but it can easily become a time sink with only solder wick and a plastic pump.

>> No.64974937

>>64974873
and how is that?

>> No.64974946

>>64974877
they're just shorter switches. they still take up the same area

>> No.64974953

>>64974902
How often do you actually find yourself needing to change switches?

Is it actually worth the increased chance of failure?

>> No.64974958

>>64974877
You can always shave off the sides of your keycaps if you want a smaller keeb desu

>> No.64974975

>>64974902
it's a meme because they don't always fit right in the sockets and on the plate

>> No.64975022
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>>64974773
Thats a great price, specially as it seems to include caps and switches. I just wish their anodizing is better, because the one on the prototype is truly disgusting.

>> No.64975047

>>64974946
o what a shame i thought that if they where similar to ML they also had a smaller footprint


>>64974958
that would look shit also there are some issues, if you put them close you will struggle putting diodes or be forced to hardwired the switches ( im speaking about DIY) also if 3D print a smaller keycaps it would hit the upper part of the switch

>> No.64975054

>>64974785
I tough about buying melody, the china guy prototype was great, but the final version with rounded corners and bezels is ugly as fuck.

>> No.64975065
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>>64974844
>sandwhich acrylic case

>> No.64975079

>>64974742
Thanks senpai, everythings good :)

>> No.64975085

>>64975065
Just design your own case then. Should be easy to CAD up something nice.

>> No.64975089

>>64974953
If it fails, you just have to solder them. Or replace the socket.

>> No.64975096
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>>64975065
its not THAT bad
but yeah listen to >>64975085

hopefully seinden tech will show up eventually

>> No.64975113

>>64975096
where you ordered those plates i planing on making a modular acrylic keyboard

>> No.64975126

>>64975113
not me, just the picture of the budget96 from the geekhack

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>>64974877
>40% with the size of a 30%
Unless you're typing with your dick that form factor is too small to be usable.

>> No.64975155

>>64975138
split 30%

>> No.64975162

>>64975155
You don't have two dicks.

>> No.64975176

>>64975138
>Implying my dick its smaller than my finger
you fucking piece of shit!

No man i just want a very very small keyboard made by me that will fit in a hipbag

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>>64975138
>too small to be usable
where do you think you are

>> No.64975179

>>64975162
You don't know me

>> No.64975185
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So I'm planning to order this on Friday. I'll be getting original cherry stabs from somewhere else and probably using a krytox mix lube on the switches.
I'll build it with some dinky soldering iron.
Anything I can improve, even aesthetically? Note it's not the sushi set but the "russian&red" set with a matching red lindy cable and silver chassis.

>> No.64975193

>>64975178
we where talking about ML switches that enables you to make a smaller keyboard

>> No.64975229

>>64975085
I have no fucking idea where I could find a place to CNC a case, or anodize it, and even if I did it would probably cost a lot more than just ordering something like KBD19x.

Sure, I could just cut some acrylic to do a shitty sandwitch case, but I have yet to find a single one that looks nice.

>>64975096
This gigantic form factor, without a single mounting point in the middle, and an acrylic plate... wont it flex like hell? People are complaining about XD96 flex, and at least it has a steel plate mounted on an aluminum shell.

>> No.64975239

>>64974688
holy fuck is this shopped? Bjarne uses a hkkb?

>> No.64975273

>>64975229
its budget for a reason

>> No.64975294
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>>64975239
Its the original rubber dome one.

>> No.64975295

null>>64975239
Yes, he really uses an hhkb. Have you ever tried topre? It's actually really nice if you just type all day

>> No.64975305 [DELETED] 

>>64975229
>I have no fucking idea where I could find a place to CNC a case, or anodize it, and even if I did it would probably cost a lot more than just ordering something like KBD19x.
forget on building an aluminum case and ordering one, that will ruin you

Sure, I could just cut some acrylic to do a shitty sandwitch case, but I have yet to find a single one that looks nice.
top plate carbon fiber, mid part translucent acrylic bottom part carbon fiber. that result in a very pleasant looking build anon

>> No.64975312

>>64974849
You're such a faggot

>> No.64975314

>>64975294
>>64975295
retardfrog.jpg

>> No.64975325

>>64975229
>I have no fucking idea where I could find a place to CNC a case, or anodize it, and even if I did it would probably cost a lot more than just ordering something like KBD19x.
forget on building an aluminum case and ordering one, that will ruin you

>Sure, I could just cut some acrylic to do a shitty sandwitch case, but I have yet to find a single one that looks nice.
top plate carbon fiber, mid part translucent acrylic bottom part carbon fiber. that result in a very pleasant looking build anon

>> No.64975369

>>64975229
If you really want a heavy case, you could always 3d print a full case with a slot for a brass weight. 3d prints are also easy to smoothen and have lots of compositions and colors available.

>> No.64975448

>>64975185
Try ordering a split keyboard to actually improve your typing experience instead.

>> No.64975459

>>64975448
most people are fine with a normal layout you fucking gorilla

>> No.64975486

>>64975459
They don't know what they're missing. Trust me, I was once like them.

>> No.64975499

>>64975448
Too bad there's no split keyboard with good switches

>> No.64975503

>>64975499
Define good switches

>> No.64975506

>>64975503
Capacitive buckling springs

>> No.64975509

>>64975503
topre

>> No.64975511

>>64975503
Alps

>> No.64975520

>>64975503
literally anything other than membrane or cherry/MX stem garbage

>> No.64975527

>>64975506
>>64975509
Just buy two of the smallest boards you can and use one on each hand.

>>64975511
matias ergo some shit, VE.A

>> No.64975545

>>64975506
>>64975509
>>64975511
>>64975520
Nice memeswitches you unproductive waste of space.

>> No.64975549

Still waiting for my model f

>> No.64975567

>>64975545
you should tell all the japanese office workers who use rebranded topre for their 60 hour work week that they're unproductive memeswitchers

>> No.64975569

>>64975545
Not everything is a meme just because you can't afford it you dumb poorfag.

>> No.64975574

>>64975448
But, like, I don't want to.I want a kbd75.

>> No.64975618

>>64975574
But XD84 is cheaper, anon, and looks better.

Also, silver cases dont go well with beige caps. Get something grey or black.

>> No.64975659
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>>64975239
Freetards love the HHKB, heck linux magazine gave it a perfect score 20 years ago

>> No.64975660
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null>>64975618
I built it around the stock pics of the kbd75. Pic related. You think black on black caps would look better on silver? I would think I should just get the black case if I'm getting black keycaps.
I will look into the xd84, I just defaulted to kbd fans because I've used them in the past and good fast shipping is important to me as I am exceedinly impatient.

>> No.64975668

>>64975569
Says the faggot that's too poor to try out a split keyboard to see what it's like. I would never buy a setup with those listed switches unless I could find them in a split because ergonomic design is a thousand times more impacting to typing performance and fatigue than any switch choice. I can tell that you're speaking from a place of ignorance and jealousy as you've never tried a split but you really should before you try and argue about it.

>> No.64975669

>>64975509
>>64975511
those exist tho

>> No.64975689

>>64975668
>too poor to try out a split keyboard
You fucking brainlet, I said I wont try out a split keyboard because none exist with good switches.

>> No.64975700

>>64975689
>You fucking brainlet, I said I wont try out a split keyboard because none exist with good switches.
This is why you're stupid. A split membrane keyboard is better than everything you've ever owned or tried.

>> No.64975706

>>64975700
Except it's not and you're just a retard trying to justify his overpriced chinkshit keyboard.

>> No.64975747

>>64975706
This

>> No.64975764

>>64975700
You're in the wrong general

>> No.64975788

>>64975668
>he is slowly surrendering his meme split thing and passing to our side
4 sessions more and this guy buys a 60% keyboard

>> No.64975794

>>64975706
>>64975764
This entire general is about justifying overpriced chinkshit keyboards.

>> No.64975805

>>64975794
I don't justify chinkshit because I don't buy chinkshit.

>> No.64975816

>>64975805
show us your keyboard

>> No.64975827

>>64975816
IBM Model F AT

>> No.64975848

>>64975794
>i'm mad that people are passionate about their keyboard they use for 16 hours a day >:|

>> No.64975855

>>64975827
the pcb was produced in Taiwan so yea you correct, not chinkshit (this fact was pulled out of my ass)

>> No.64975886
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>>64975511
>>64975520
Retart

>> No.64975925

>>64975886
I googled split alps keyboards and they all look terrible

>> No.64975951

>>64975925
> Spend 10 seconds googling something
> suprised when your "research" is fruitless

>> No.64975969

>>64975951
>have to search more than 10 seconds to find a good split keyboard
Pathetic

>> No.64975996

Where to buy Alps SKCM Blue switches? Do I really have to buy a $200+ keyboard? On eBay? Prices are insane for any board that has them

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>>64975969
found a decent you faggot

>> No.64976011

>>64975996
Ebay prices are trash, buy it anywhere else. I got an omnikey 102 with blue alps for $60 on craigslist.

>> No.64976023

>>64975998
>iso

>> No.64976075

split keyboards are shit

that 1 (one) anon who keeps shilling them needs to commit suicide by drinking cum-laced-bleach

>> No.64976142

>>64975996
They're not made anymore, so yes you have to buy an old keyboard with them

Hope you have an ultrasonic cleaner, alps switches get destroyed by dust

>> No.64976366
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>>64975162
>this guy doesn't have two dicks

>> No.64976610

>>64976011
>gib alps pls
Seriously though, do you have any suggestions places to buy a board with Alps blues?

>> No.64976652

>>64976610
Deskthority would be the best place.

>> No.64976800
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>> No.64976831

>>64976800
>brown is best MX
>guaranteed replies

>> No.64976859

>>64976800
>best MX
That doesn't mean much

>> No.64976911

If it ain’t split, your keyboard a shit.

>> No.64976941

>>64976911
If it's split, it's shit.

>> No.64976972

>>64976941
It's ok manlet, not all of us can have the broad masculine shoulders required to properly use split keyboards

>> No.64976986
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>>64976972
>this is what split keyboard users look like
KEK

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>>64976986
They love split controllers too

>> No.64977018

split users look like dorks larping as some anime hacker. That shill keeps calling people unproductive but using split keyboards ensure that nobody will take you seriously, it looks hilarious

>> No.64977031

>>64976986
>>64977009
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.64977050
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>>64976986
>>64977009
>>64977018

>> No.64977063
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>>64977050
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHHAHAA

>> No.64977184

>>64977063
That guy actually looks really comfortable. Look at how his chest is open and his arms are straight and relaxed.

>> No.64977557

>>64975178
>caps lock on a keyboard that small
What a waste of space

>> No.64977843

>>64974811
>backlit keys and hot-swappable switches
The Melody96 can easily have both of these, in fact that's what I'm planning on doing with mine.

>> No.64978240

>>64977843
buying holtites and leds to install on the melody96 will bump its price above the kira96

>> No.64978696
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thoughts?

gay, trap or hetero?

>> No.64978815

>>64978696
gay, very gay

>> No.64978964

>>64978815
good im gonna join the waitlist

>> No.64978968
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64978968

Anyone ever tried the KUL ES-87? Thoughts?
Should I get it?

>> No.64979104

>>64978968
no

>> No.64979118

>>64979104
Why?

>> No.64979465

>>64979118
>mx browns

that is why

>> No.64979528
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This layout when?

>> No.64979531

>>64979528
Magicforce 82 or something

>> No.64979741

What's the "graduation keyboard" for someone who's done with gimmicks and wants something with quality?

>> No.64979852

>>64979741
k120

>> No.64979904

>>64979741
leopold fc980c

fc980m if you’re a poor

>> No.64979954

>>64979528
Noppoo nano

>> No.64980113

>>64979741
IBM Model M. BTFO every other more expensive board in terms of build quality, clickiness, tactility, smoothness, and sound.

>> No.64980247

I finally got my meme das keyboard (the kickstarter one).

> Build quality - would be ok if not for the horrible pipe sound with every press.
> Logistics - scamming people out of additional money for sending a product 12 months before shipping,
> They had constant problems with production, logistics and even FCC.
> Terrible font they switched to mid-way through kickstarter

My bad for supporting a kickstarter - but I seriously hoped that Das would know how to make keyboards. It apparently is some scam US front for horrible Chinese factory. You're better off with gaymer Corsair or aliexpress.

>> No.64980258

>>64974721
just get a 65% and a seperate numpad/macropad

>> No.64980890

>>64979741
leopold fc980c, this anon is right >>64979904 graduation is when you realize you want a full size layout since it's the most functional, and when you just want a well built solid keyboard with good feeling that isn't loud, no rgb memes, and no stupid color schemes or custom keycaps

>> No.64981091

>>64980890
>full size layout
>recommend a castrated keyboard
Okay budy.

>> No.64981580

>>64979904
leopold is god tier, basically perfect

>> No.64982978

some anon recommended me to buy a split keyboard and i did, iv spent 200$ one a custom mech with split quality and now don't know what to do with the 4 other keyboards i have because i don't want to be a consumerism shit of piece

>> No.64983139

>>64979741
Old mainframe terminal boards converted to modern computers. Why bother with modern imitations when you can get the real deal for cheap? Fully programmable with cool switches, nice keycaps and every layout you could want to choose from. And needing some actual skill for it keeps the scrubs from blowing up the prices.

>> No.64983248
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Logitech G413

>Logitech
>Romer G

I enjoy this keyboard a lot. It isn't obnoxious.

>> No.64983617

what's your favorite low resistance switch /mkg/ and why?

i generally prefer switches with heavy actuation but i've made some lifestyle changes recently that doesn't work with that anymore. topres have been recommended to me, would that be my best immediate option? if not, what are some better alternatives i should look into? budget and layout are not major factors for me as long as the product is reliable.

>> No.64983696

>>64983617
buy some cherry clones and mod them into what ever you like, switch the springs with something light, put some lubricant and maybe you will find your perfect combo like that.

>> No.64984000

>>64983617
Aliaz. I got 70g, which is not the lightest but still a lot lighter than Cherry clears.

>> No.64984046

>>64983617
IBM Model F AT or 122

>> No.64984089

>>64982978
>i don't want to be a consumerism shit of piece
Sell them and get a GED you illiterate fuck.
>this is the average split keyboard buyer

>> No.64984194

>>64983617
Saia Burgess snap action switches

>> No.64984350

>>64984089
>responding to split shilling after several threads of people (one guy) shilling that hard for it

>> No.64984409

Wait a minute, you people spend 200 or even $300 for a fucking keyboard? That you have to build yourself on top of that? Are you people fucking retarded or something?

>> No.64984467

@64984409
Bad bait, you get no (you)

>> No.64984716
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64984716

I just bought that Keycaps, anyone have a good pics of that?
Btw, i use 7x1.25 and 1x6.25 bottom row and they gonna send me 4 extra blank 1.25, good boys.

>> No.64984770

>>64984716
eww looks like chink shit. I hope you only paid 30 bucks for them

>> No.64984863

>>64983696
thanks for the suggestion, modding is likely a last resort for me given my slow track record with those projects.

>>64984000
aliaz feels a bit more brown-like to in my experience, what are your thoughts on the sound?

>>64984046
i have a model f at variant, really like the bouncier spring vs my model m, but unfortunately it's still too heavy for my needs now. are these the lightest switches you've used?

>>64984194
a few years ago i read about someone building a keyboard entirely from saia-burgess g3 switches, it looked incredible. i haven't seen that switch anywhere though, any pointers on what would be a similar alternative in the family?

>> No.64984878

>>64984770
20*

>> No.64984907

>>64984863
The lightest switches I've used would definitely be 45g topre. But if you need an extremely light switch the lightest switch you could buy would be Gateron clears which I believe are only 35g.

>> No.64984938

>>64984907
you should know that actuation force isn't the same as bottom out force. gateron clears bottom out at 40g which means that 30/35g topres are lighter

>> No.64985314

>>64976800
i agree, I use them and clears interchangeably

>> No.64985335

>>64984907
thanks anon! i've been eyeing the 45g or 55g range topres per the suggestion i was initially given. wanted to consult /mkg/ for a second opinion before taking the leap though. did you find any notable inefficiencies with the topres?

>> No.64985436

>>64985335
The switches themselves are nice, better than cherry and its clones. They're smoother and more tactile. The only problem is the keyboards are overpriced but if that isn't a problem then go for it.

>> No.64985465

>>64985436
>topres
>more tactile
if you've only ever used linear switches that's true. but both browns, blues and clears are more tactile

>> No.64985468

>>64985465
>both browns, blues and clears are more tactile
They feel like scratchy linears

>> No.64985529

Any mech switches that are close to scissor switches in feeling?

I cannot adapt to the Cherry reds, cannot write as fast as before and make typos all the time.

>> No.64985578

>>64985529
all mech keybaord have longer travel times than scissor ones even the kailh low profile so if you like that aspect of switches just go back to them

>> No.64985592

>>64985468
no they don't

>> No.64985605 [DELETED] 

Can your fancy mechanical watch do this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl_gkE1fbx0

>> No.64985609

>>64985578
There are no decent keyboards with n-key roll and decently implemented scissor switches.

>> No.64985631

>>64985592
They're linear switches with a tiny bump in them. Terrible tactility.

>> No.64985644
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>>64985465
>Browns, blues, clears
>tactile

>> No.64985658

>>64985609
ye i know thats why i was just searching for some type of solution
https://www.mouser.es/Electromechanical/Switches/Tactile-Switches/_/N-5g2m/?Ns=Pricing%7c0&No=25

>> No.64985819

>>64985436
i'm thinking about the hhkb pro 2 or type s, which does appear pricey for what it is. but it seems to be the best balance for my needs.

to my understanding topres feel sturdier than cherry switches and offer a softer "landing"- which some people argue makes it feel muddy compared to cherry switches. i'm guessing that muddiness is why people are debating over how tactile these switches actually are. does that align with your experience with the 45g switch? i think i'll bite the bullet, many thanks for the help!

>> No.64985928

>>64985819
>topres feel sturdier than cherry switches and offer a softer "landing"
Yup that's true, bottoming out is easy on the fingers, which is one of the reasons topre is very comfortable to type on for long periods of time. The switches aren't as tactile as buckling springs but they're more tactile than cherry for sure.

>> No.64986553

>>64984863
>aliaz feels a bit more brown-like to in my experience, what are your thoughts on the sound?
The switches aren't as quiet as the Matias stuff I had before if I'm typing at full speed, but the keys on that rattled a lot. I'm thinking of putting O rings on this board because I think most of the sound is the keycaps hitting the switch housing.

>> No.64986640

>>64986553
>O rings
i though the same on my geteron switches, but the thing with orings is that they had a new feeling to the switch that i don't like even do its on bottoming you can feel that something is different besides the damped sound out

>> No.64986701

>>64977843
Yeah, good luck with installing sip sockets on a multi-layout PCB.

>> No.64986725
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>> No.64986748
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>> No.64986765
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>> No.64986844

>>64986640
Yeah. Maybe I should just try different keycaps.

>> No.64987006

what keyboard is the ultimate tranny keyboard

>> No.64987028

>>64987006
White HHKB with Miami keycaps

>> No.64987053
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64987053

>>64975096
>>64977009
>>64978696
>thoughts?
>gay, trap or hetero?
>>64986765

>> No.64987080

>>64987006
40% with miami

>> No.64987261
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64987261

>>64987080
apologize

>> No.64987275

>>64987261
I was considering getting this
what keycaps should I get OwO

>> No.64987390

>>64986765
>make a split keyboard for ergonomics the normies could only dream of
>build fuckhuge case that requires your arms to be at 45° angles from the desk inducing instant CTS

>> No.64988235

>>64987390
>>64987390
still better than all of the non split keyboards since you might be able to make that shit work with a good chair with adjustable arms

>> No.64988769

>>64988235
my cases just look much better than that shit and i have just a saw and a chisel, he probably has a cutting table and other tools that occupy 1 square meter each.

>> No.64989069
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64989069

if you're dying for a IBM F-122, there is one on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-F-122-Keyboard-6110347-ANSI-Converted-Soarers-USB-Dec-7th-1984/263534151651?epid=1819716307&hash=item3d5bdc07e3:g:~J0AAOSwLXtanc3t

>> No.64989095

>>64989069
>$400
Change the price to $250 and MAYBE someone will buy it

>> No.64989114

>>64989069
I swear the price goes up 10 bucks every day. two weeks ago they were 250

>> No.64989120
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>>64989069

>> No.64989131

>>64989120
who cares?

>> No.64989169

>>64989120
Reddit didn't invent smiley faces you dumb spic

>> No.64989189

Seriously I don't understand, why aren't you all just using a hhkb keyboard? Honestly it's been the end game for me, the layout is fucking perfect for programming and topres are really nice.
Only thing better would be buckling spring in the hhkb layout for home usage.

>> No.64989203
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>>64989131
>>64989169

>> No.64989222

>>64989189
I don't like rubber dome keyboards.

>> No.64989242
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64989242

would you use a buckling spring keyboard with HHKB layout?

>> No.64989250

>>64989189
well then why don't you put your money where your mouth is and buy a buckling spring HHKB

>> No.64989259

>>64989250
I did I was even stupid enough to buy the early bird special for >>64989242
I've been waiting for over a year now.

>> No.64989261

>>64989189
>>64989242
There you go

>> No.64989274

>>64989242
Because split right shift is objectively better than that 2.75u monstrosity

>> No.64989658

>>64989189
>not split
>end game
lmao

>> No.64989857

>>64989189
Because I use my numpad frequently.

>> No.64989893
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64989893

Are Gatreon clears supposed to be gaymer switches? Need something for my Melody96, and assdrop has a pack of 120 for what I think is decent

>> No.64989940

>>64989893
gateron clears are meme soy boy switches
yellows and blacks are better

>> No.64989957

>>64989940
>meme soy boy
Cringe

>> No.64989973
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>>64989957
>Cringe

>> No.64989976

>>64989940
Yellows?

>> No.64989983

>>64989973
>calls people soyboy while using reddit memes

>> No.64990019

@64989983
i don't feel like humoring you anymore
>>64989976
same actuation force but lower bottom out force compared to blacks

>> No.64990027

>>64990019
KEK

>> No.64990034
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>>64989957

>> No.64990046

>>64990034
Do you take the whole thing?

>> No.64990084
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64990084

Can anyone recommend a low profile keyboard?

Need at least 6 key rollover, but low profile so that it can be ergonomic for use when resting the hand on a desk while typing/playing games

>> No.64990096

>>64990084
apple keyboard

>> No.64990100

>>64990084
sit higher and let you hands hover

>> No.64990101

>>64990096
for wandows, not getting used to that shit

>> No.64990167

>>64990046
yes

>> No.64990200

Someone tell me why the k120 is generally better for playing games than all of the marketed gaming keyboards

It's similar other keyboards, but definitely better at what these GAYMEN keyboards are marketed for, even the supposed "speedy" switches you can get

>> No.64990212

>>64990100
Not happening while playing games

And that always ends up being difficult because I will quickly switch from writing and typing so my posture isn't in the exact spot constantly

>> No.64990217

>>64990200
there is hardly a difference for gaymen as long as the switch is reasonably light

>> No.64990227

>>64990217
In my opinion they should just sell the same cheap keyboard but make a version with key rollover so you can play it with those certain games, then market it as the "gaming" version

>> No.64990229

>>64990212
then buy a wrist rest

>> No.64990235

>>64990229
Takes up space on the desk

Seriously that is annoying, it will get in the way of my papers

>> No.64990257

>>64990235
then kill yourself because you will never use a good keyboard again

>> No.64990273

>>64990257
I was enjoying this Dell chiclet keyboard they box as default actually because it is so similar to my XPS 15 keyboard. Keep in mind I enjoy it despite having used Blues on a PBT Ducky, PBT, Reds, Speed Reds, and Romer-G. I can confidently say the cheap chiclet is better for typing especially with the low profile.

Only trouble is the only 2 key rollover. Would be nice to find a way around that

>> No.64990361

>>64990084
Drevo Joyeuse, Rapoo MT500.

>> No.64990371

hi lads I'm thinking of selling my rantopad mxx (gateron blues) and buy a tecware phantom (outemu brown). the rantopad was my first mech and I've used it for about 5 months now. I thought of switching because I feel like I type faster than the keyboard can register my clicks because sometimes when I'm playing I occasionally have that problem where I felt like I pressed the key but nothing happened. I was wondering if the outemu browns will be any different? can you redpill me on them?

>> No.64990383

>>64990371
>I feel like I type faster than the keyboard can register my clicks
holy fuck you're retarded

>> No.64990401

>>64990383
sorry english isn't my first language I'm having trouble explaining the problem properly

>> No.64990424

ikbc f87 or ducky one tkl? will be getting browns btw. honestly leaning towards IKBC since I heard they're pretty good but ducky's reliability can not be ignored either

>> No.64990433

>>64990401
the clicks are mechanical no human will ever type fast enough that the click won't happen
the click isn't what actuates the switch either

>> No.64990515

>>64990424
Its pretty much the same thing, both made by ikbc. Get a Leopold instead.

>> No.64991489

You guys are so fucking gay

>> No.64991505

>>64991489
Yeah, and? Want me to suck your dick or something?

>> No.64991720

>>64983139
I would love to try out an old hall effect keyboard but can only find them for like150$. Cheap terminal keyboards just dont exists these days.

>> No.64991889

>>64990515
Different dude here
Is leopold that much better other than cherry profile keycaps? I have one and it feels great but I wanted to know how duckys stack up out of curiosity

>> No.64992430

Anyone got info on https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2866

Looks ok, I'm buying a 60%, preferably blue or similar if anyone's got suggestions.

>> No.64992948

>>64979954
Neat. It's weird how rare this layout is.

>> No.64993530

>>64985335
You can get Plum keyboards with even lighter 35g domes if you dont mind them being linear. Also I would advise you to avoid realforce keyboards, the case is really bad quality for the price.

>> No.64993534
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what is this

>> No.64993572

>>64985928
For me its the opposite. Bottoming out on cherry clears feels nice and cushioned while its sudden and harsh on 55g topre.

>> No.64993579

>>64993534
fat ching chong, pretty rare

>> No.64993609

>>64993579
would reproduce

>> No.64994061

>>64990235
Keyboard tray
Or get a separate desk for working on papers.

>> No.64994081
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Need help! 1, 2 or 3? For plum75 layout.

>> No.64994109

>>64989857
For what? A shitty data entry job?

>> No.64994113

I can't get into this shit because of how small and cramped the keys frequently are. I don't have tiny feminine asian hands. I have big manly hands with arachnodactyly. Also I absolutely need a numpad. I do a lot of numerical entries and frequently bind those keys for gayming macros as well.

>> No.64994158
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64994158

hey reddit why havent you guys made this into a keycap yet?

>> No.64994180

>>64994081
3

>> No.64994187

>>64994081
Those are all fuxking disgusting. Do you people have no shame? What's wrong with beige and gray?

>> No.64994195

>>64994187
see pic related

>> No.64994217

>>64994158
Don't know why don't you try asking there instead.

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>>64994158
you seem to have made a mistake. this is /mkg/ home of the buypig not r/mk home of antifa. They already made their own keycaps

>> No.64994339

>>64994113
Stop being politically correct

>feminine asian hands
normal hands

>big manly hands
fat burger hands

>> No.64994391

Why are keyboards with blue cherry mx so hard to get?
Only half decent one I can find in my country is k70 lux.
Should I get k70 with blues or masterkeys with browns?

>> No.64994451

>>64994391
on the long run blues will induce cringe into your system transmitted by high pitch vibrations that pass through your bones, can cause nose bleading

>> No.64994471
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64994471

Redpill me about silent silicon keyboards. Do I type slower compared to a non-mechanical keyboard?

>> No.64994522

>>64993534
kira

>> No.64994942

>>64991889
Yeah. Ducky have upside down switches and worse stabs.

>> No.64995291

>>64990084
what happened to sadpanda? I haven't visited it in years.

>> No.64995337
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64995337

Do you guys like long shift bars or small shift bars?

I used a 75% and I hated the small shift bar. Wondering if it is just me.

>> No.64995351

>>64989189
I wish I had never discovered topre, it's so much more expensive but now it's all I will use

>> No.64995401

>>64995337
there's no advantage to short bars on the edges, they're only like that for style or extreme size constraints

one of the many reasons the small size boards are such a meme

>> No.64995405

>>64995337
I'd completely remove the right shift bar for Alt in an ideal world. I never use it, just the left one.

>> No.64995433

>>64995405
do you just type with one hand or something?

>> No.64995440

>>64995405
you must have atrocious typing

I suspect most people here are like you though, mostly fast but with ghastly technique, just given what I've seen

>> No.64995465
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>>64989189
pretty sure you got small bitch hands or something. I like my control key being in the bottom left and it has never posed a problem. Everyone I know that liked the hhkb had small hands. Caps lock button is still useful.

Overall it is a downgrade from a tkl. Only saving grace that the hhkb has is the ability to switch buttons out.

Also topres are pretty good.

I have a hhkb and realforce 55g and I still prefer the realforce.

>> No.64995469

>>64995433
Just hold left shift with my pinky and hit the key I need with another finger if it's on the left side or with my right hand if it's on the right side.

It's not a crime to take your fingers off the homerow.

>> No.64995489

>>64995469
must be left handed. I do the opposite and mainly use the right. I alternate when I am bored with one.

>> No.64995513

>>64995465
>>64995351
Only if the fucking nips did not hold a patent on it and shared. They must be laughing at all the gaijin buying their keyboard that they make with cheap rubber for 20 dollars a pop.

>> No.64995515

>>64995469
as suspected, atrocious typing technique

>> No.64995523

>>64995489
Hey, yeah. I am. Never thought of that.

>> No.64995543

>>64995515
There is no proof that the standard homerow touch typing method is the fastest method there is. Who the fuck cares how someone types?

>> No.64995546

>>64974688
Why is he clenching his fist? That's a sign of anger. I wouldn't come near that guy, afraid he would hit me.

>> No.64995550

>>64993530
i'm interested in trying out some 35g keys but i ended up picking up a hhkb pro 2 after hearing out some anons earlier. thank you for the suggestion though, i'll look into it in the future if this doesn't work out.

>> No.64995566

>>64995546
Nah, a man has to have a fist sometimes when he feels threatened or nervous. In case he needs to knock someone the fuck out.

>> No.64995579

>>64995543
there's plenty of proof about how awkward bending like that is bad for rsi, you're pretty slow ifyou can't figure that much out, and yea you can type fine with terrible technique and most people do

it's just slower than it could be and worse for your hands

it's fine that you have bad technique and prefer bad keyboards because of it, it's just not as good as it could be

>> No.64995585

>>64994942
they use the same stabs tho

>> No.64995650

>>64995579
>awkward bending

I got hyperflex joints. What I do is easier on them than proper technique which is murder on my pinkies and forces my wrists far too close together at rest. I still do it 90% right. I had proper typing classes as a kid. I just make my ring fingers pull double duty.

Also that last reply was a different guy.

>> No.64995651
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>>64994081
Bump!

>> No.64995653

>>64995579
>there's plenty of proof about how awkward bending like that is bad for rsi, you're pretty slow ifyou can't figure that much out, and yea you can type fine with terrible technique and most people do

?
I don't bend my hands and I don't use the standard method. I still get around a 100 wpm score when I type.

>it's just slower than it could be and worse for your hands

Explain

>> No.64995695

>>64994081
>>64995651
2, but to be fair they are all bad. I would honestly change the other modifers, not the alphas, with beige keys.

>> No.64995698

>>64995651
all of those color combos look terrible, just go for the classic pink blue and dish the white keycaps

>> No.64995726
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64995726

>>64994081
just get Miami instead

>> No.64995755

If money wasn't an issue, what's the best way to get a set of custom doubleshot keycaps?

>> No.64995762

>>64995755
make the molds yourself

>> No.64995774

>>64995755
wasd or maxkeyboards.
>>64995726
worst color scheme.

>> No.64995790

>>64995774
>wasd or maxkeyboards.
lol he might actually believe you

>> No.64995802

>>64995790
>>64995774
>>64995762
pls

>> No.64995820

>>64995790
Only possible way to get custom color schemes unless he wants to pitch a color scheme to originative.co or something. That or buy keycaps with that color until you got the mix you want.

>> No.64995839

>>64995820
>originative.co
>BunnyLake
What if I want my keycaps before 2030?

>> No.64995851

>>64995651
2
3 if you replace the white f-keys with one of the other colors.

>>64995755
Contacting a company like signature plastics for a custom order.

>> No.64995871

>>64995774
those don't do custom doubleshot keycaps
>>64995755
GMK or NPKC I guess

>> No.64996160

>>64989189
What is with these keyboards with no dedicated arrow keys? main reason I hated the 60%, but it is worse on the hhkb. The fn key is on the right along with the arrow keys so u essentially have to press 2 keys to move anywhere with the arrow keys. Terrible design.

>> No.64996169

>>64996160
>using the arrow keys

>> No.64996177

>>64996169
>non-coding normie

>> No.64996202

>Vortex Vibe
>Size of a TKL
>Includes numpad, dedicated arrow keys, and dedicated modifier keys
Why is this keyboard not praised here?

>> No.64996210
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>>64996202
pic

>> No.64996219

>>64996202
>>64996210
should be, but everyone has small bitch trump hands in here.

>> No.64996223

>>64996202
it's fine but why the fuck wouldn't you want the f keys if you're not wasting money on a meme tiny keyboard for bitch hands

>> No.64996252

>>64996223
unfortunately, this is a rare layout and noone has innovated that far.

>> No.64996270
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64996270

Anyone have any experience with one of these? only £20 with outemu blues, are they as good as cherrys?

>> No.64996280

>>64996210
Take your spot the difference and fuck off, sir

>> No.64996285

>>64996270
Yes
> good as cherrys
no

>> No.64996299

>>64974688
Where can I find a full keyboard with an aluminum case?
It's like all the alu cases were made for tkl/60%.

>> No.64996304
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64996304

>>64996280
kids these days...

Here is the actual picture.

>> No.64996389

>>64976800
Thinking of getting a Glock 19.
I'm torn between a gen 5 19 and a gen 4 19C.
Never shot with a ported barrel before. Is the recoil reduction worth it?

>> No.64996395

>>64996389
Depends, are they cherry switches?

>> No.64996396

>justifying shitty typing technique and bragging about being a big boy when every key is the same size

>> No.64996398

>>64996210
60% a best, poker for life

>> No.64996459

>>64996202
do you know what dedicated means? cause it doesn't have those

>> No.64996461

>>64996396
>justifying shitty typing technique and bragging about being a big boy when every key is the same size
Literally noone is saying that you mongoloid

>>64996398
WHERE ARE MY ARROW KEYS BITCH.

>> No.64996473

>>64996459
? It does? You hit the num key to switch modes and like magic for your brainlet brain you got a dedicated arrow key.

>> No.64996478

>>64996299
Ducky makes some like the DSX and MF108

>> No.64996483

>>64996177
>>64996461
fn + wasd
Why do you people bitch so much about arrow keys? They are useless.

>> No.64996491

>>64996473
that's not what dedicated means

>> No.64996525

New thread!
>>64996524
>>64996524
>>64996524

>> No.64996535

>>64996483
You obviously don't code then. Literally use shift + arrow keys or alt + arrow keys at my work everyday Also why the fuck would I want to use a keyboard without dedicated arrow keys.

>>64996491
1 button = that command. Pretty sure that means dedicated. If you are talking about switching modes by tapping one button, that is like saying the hhkb does not have a dedicated ctrl button because there is a switch at that back that switches it. Anon... I think you don't know what dedicated means.

>> No.64996554

>>64996535
>You obviously don't code then
>Literally use shift + arrow keys or alt + arrow keys at my work everyday
Alright Pajeet, keep using eclipse.

>> No.64996563

>>64996535
You defiantly don't know what dedicated means. I use a realforce 87u and it has the same feature where pressing the numlock gets you a numpad, and no one goes around calling it a dedicated numpad cause that's retarded. It's not dedicated anon get over it

>> No.64996596

>>64996554
? I use notepad++ and sublime. Good to know what you use Pajeet.
>>64996563
1 key press for a command = dedicated.

Sorry if that is too much to understand brainlet.

>> No.64996623

>>64996596
It's done with a toggle switch therefor not dedicated.

>> No.64996641

>>64996623
Except after the switch it becomes 1 keystroke therefore there is a switch to make it dedicated... Why is this concept so hard to understand?

>> No.64996662

>>64996641
that's not dedicated tho. If it only does 1 function and only one function then it's dedicated, but if you can switch it to do something else somehow then it's no longer dedicated. why is that too hard to understand

>> No.64996678

>>64996662
Except after hitting the switch it becomes 1 dedicated keystroke therefore there is a switch to make it dedicated... Why is this concept so hard to understand?

>> No.64996704

>>64996678
again it's not dedicated. how many times do I have to repeat myself a dedicated key only does one function. if you can toggle it to do something else it's no longer dedicated.

>> No.64996771

>>64996704
Except after hitting a switch it becomes 1 dedicated keystroke therefore there is a switch to make it dedicated... Why is this concept so hard to understand?

>> No.64996802

>>64996771
>it becomes
see that's the problem a dedicated key doesn't need to become something, it already exists. glad to see you're starting to get it.

>> No.64996884

>>64996802
>dedicated key doesn't need to become something
says who? why not have a switch to make a single key dedicated to a single command?
Except after hitting a switch it becomes a dedicated keystroke therefore there is a switch to make it dedicated... Why is this concept so hard to understand?

>> No.64996931

>>64996884
It seems to me that you think not having dedicated keys is bad, but that's actually not the case. Having dedicated keys is terrible. you want freedom in your keyboard and the ability to program it however you want is the better solution. The vibe is a good keyboard precisely because it doesn't have a dedicated numpad or nav cluster
>says who?
the definition of dedicated. again toggling something no longer makes it dedicated.

>> No.64997166

>>64994158
>soy wojak
You are reddit

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