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/mkg/ Big Boy Keyboards Edition

>Mech enthusiast starter edition
https://imgur.com/a/G6rOk
>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyboard wiki
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous thread >>64818814

>> No.64839429
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64839429

my nsa kit

>> No.64839433
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64839433

soy boys please don't post here

>> No.64839458
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64839458

Buckling spring isn't even good. Topre, BKE Redux, Box thick click, and well done ergoclears all give an objectively superior typing experience.
Full size keyboards are dumb unless you're a wagie accountant.
Pic related is gorgeous and you should copy it.

>> No.64839473

>>64839458
see
>>64839433

>> No.64839477

>>64839322
not gonna lie i bought stinkers for just that but seeing your keyboard i think its going to suck, how can i get rid of that border the sticker creates? also have you thought of spry painting your keyboard with clear varnish?

>> No.64839486

>>64839473
I'm on 750mg of testosterone a week. My opinions are all certified high test and I certainly have the highest test levels in this thread.
You're just a deluded hipster with no taste in keyboards.

>> No.64839509

>>64839486
see
>>64839433

>> No.64839537

hey are mx clears any good

>> No.64839543

browns are objectively garbage

>> No.64839550
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>>64839537
one of the best mx switches money can buy

>> No.64839565

>>64839537
i have some gateron clears, they are cool

>> No.64839574

>>64839565
cherry and gateron clears are very different

>> No.64839578

>>64839537
They're alright. I don't hate them. Ergoclears are so much better though. If you bottom out hard you might get fatigued with them.
I actually prefer mx speed because they're factory lubed but lubed and spring swapped mx clear is >>>>

>> No.64839588

>>64839537
depends what you want

if you want a tactile switch they're bad, barely an improvement over browns with a bump you'll easily blitz past without feeling

if you want upvotes on reddit they're pretty good

>> No.64839742

>>64839473
>>64839509
>a fucking keyboard can be soy
this meme has gone too far

>> No.64839776

>>64839742
any switch or dome <40g actuation force is soy

>> No.64839780
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64839780

I'm just posting the best switch ever created.

>> No.64839864

>>64839550
Are the switches on the bottom left gaterons or chink switches?

>> No.64839877

>>64839864
what's the difference?

>> No.64839935
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64839935

>>64839742
>b-but muh layers

>> No.64839955

>>64839935
what do keyboard preferences have to do with estrogen? besides pink flowery keycaps

>> No.64839973
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64839973

>>64839955
you should go to reddit and ask that question and see the responses you get

>> No.64839978

>>64839955
As much as Soy has with Estrogen

>> No.64840015
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64840015

Whats your favorite keyboard to take with you when you're not home?

getting my tax return and I want a small keyboard for my laptop.

>> No.64840031
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>>64840015
F62

>> No.64840036

>>64839973
wouldn't it be better if those two shift keys sit lower like the thumbs are and avoid upwards tension on them making it a more pleasant experience?

>> No.64840052

>>64840031
Why is this PBT shiny? Did they make buckling springs ABS keycaps?

>> No.64840065

>>64840036
you have to understand these keyboards are bought by soyboys who have tiny hands. That keyboard is already too big for them. Most end up buying a 30% ortholinear

>> No.64840084

>>64840052
what do you mean? the sides of IBM keycaps have always had a glossy finish with a textured top.

>> No.64840102
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>first BSP groupbuy in like two years
>its cherry with retarded symbols and cherry sandnigger layouts only

>> No.64840112

Anywhere I can get just stems and springs cheaply?

>> No.64840129

>>64839588
Sad. Was looking for something actually tactile but easy to get ahold of, cause browns are legit worse than rubber domes imo

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64840181

>>64840084
not talking about the sides, obviously. Cant you see those gigantic marks at the center of the blank keycaps? If its not shine, its really bad stem marks.

>> No.64840217

>>64840181
Very cool work, anon.

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>>64840065
who was the one that let this sperg out of the containment board?

>> No.64840289
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64840289

You guys have shit taste in keyboards.
>>64839458
>>64839780
Only nice ones in this thread.
Get it together, seriously.

>> No.64840292

>>64840065
but keys are the same size anon, having a small keyboard won't help with small hands

>> No.64840313
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64840313

I was looking on mechmarket and I see people charging $750 for some standard looking keyboards with lubed switches. What makes them so expensive?

Couldn't I buy all the switches, case, pcb, plate and lube the switches myself and build the same exact thing for a fraction of the cost??

>> No.64840319

>>64839458
Where did you get those keycaps?

>> No.64840340

>>64840289
>>64840253
see
>>64839433

>> No.64840350

>>64840313
$750 is almost always an aftermarket price for a group buy board.

>> No.64840360

>>64840350
So how would it be different than something I can build myself?

>> No.64840394

>>64840360
what do you mean?

>> No.64840414

>>64840360
its placebo reddit tier shit, things like rare keycaps or what ever brand new meme out there make it artificially expensive and also the fact that people cant stop pricing up their products and dumb people cant calculate real value

>> No.64840438

>>64840414
Kind of like the prices on Artisans. I don't understand why people buy those. Most of them look like some shit a 12 year old made from play doh.

>> No.64840462

>>64840414
>>64840438
they're collectors items that exist in a limited quantity. of course they're expensive.

>> No.64840514

>>64840462
they don't have that value, they are just pieces of plastic that are easy to manufacture. Its like collecting Kider surprise figures

>> No.64840539

>>64840514
they do have that value because people are willing to pay that much. that's what gives things value

>> No.64840585

>>64840414
You're just a mad poorfag like the rest of this board. Stop liking what I don't like :^(

>> No.64840704

>>64840539
Ok i see your concept of value is set on preferences and fefes people have, you may see it as a straw man but that's basically what you are saying.
My value is set up on physical variables that indicate me an approximate worth of the object, value of the material is for me an indication that the item in question is overpriced, plastic is dirt cheap that's my starting price.
Then comes manufacturing process. Most of those keycaps are produced with handmade rubber molds or milled aluminum mold, in the case of aluminum you need a CNC machine or hire someone to make it for you, cnc machines go for about 200$ the cheapest and if its a big scale operation the price goes down like crazy, 200$ for a semi professional keycaps production is worthless for me.
You may argue that some keycaps are handmade with some type of plaster, can care less, its his fault that he is unable to afford real tools and makes memecrafted things, there was a time where precision in manufacturing was the rule to go but now that hipsters invaded the markets making objects with imprecise marks are acceptable again.... what ever floats your boat.
And no, material has a measurable value, to create certain materials its required a set of conditions, some of those conditions are very uncommon and make the material rare or abundant.
Also if you throw me some type of meme social construct you just dum at this point.
I just wanted to type on my keyboard

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64840726

For me it's the Zeal60.

>> No.64840737

>>64840726
Stop posting your shitty keyboard, fuck.

>> No.64840744

>>64840737
stop giving him (you)s then

>> No.64840758

>>64840744
He posts it anyway with or without (you)

>> No.64840801

>>64840737
It's perfect. No extra useless keys. Flawlessly dyesubbed high quality pbt keycaps. Tasteful assortment of $50 worth of stickers. Subtle rgb backlighting. Quiet and silky smooth tealios, no obnoxious gay click bar or buckling spring here no sir.

>> No.64840820

>>64840726
cringe
>>64840704
you're not factoring demand and rarity into your concept of value. physical variables are not all there is to it, numbnuts.

>> No.64840846

>>64840726
I have that same keycap set.

>> No.64840849

>>64840820
>demand and rarity
those two factors are worthless if the material in case is easy to obtain, tell this joke to the chinks lords, first they will smile then they will take your job and pump thousands of replicas

>> No.64840858

>>64840846
Nice! You have good taste. What board did you put them on? I might get a second set.

>> No.64840864

>>64840726
Are those all stickers on that case or what? How'd you do it if they're not?

>> No.64840870

>>64840849
and yet people still buy the expensive originals. face it you can print hundreds of copies of starry night, and people wont give a shit about them

>> No.64840875

>>64840849
they aren't worthless because people are willing to pay for authenticity

>> No.64840894

>>64840858
First a K65, then a Pok3r.

>> No.64840903

What 60% wood case would you guys recommend?

>> No.64840941

>>64840870
>>64840875
and there's the dilemma

Replicas are so good that no one can tell if its original or not if they don't analyze the materials used because the materials are the part where EVERYONE cuts corners.

In the watch industry some professionals are that good making replicas that the manufacturers have to analyze the materials because the manufacturer techniques to replicate the piece are identical and no im not pulling this from my ass.

>> No.64840967

>>64840903
The cheapest chinkiest one you can find

>> No.64841029

>>64840967
any high profile ones?
>>64840941
yeah... so?

>> No.64841097

>>64840941
>chink knockoffs
>anywhere near as good as the originals
good one m8

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>>64841029
buy this keycaps for 50$ and you prove me wrong

>> No.64841122

>>64841097
>gateron browns are better than mx brows
did you say something?

>> No.64841161

>>64841101
what does that have to do with anything?

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64841177

>>64840726
why would you choose to print conceptual art vs the bajillion other ram/rem pictures on the internet.

>> No.64841207

>>64841161
Do you even follow the conversation i was having?

>> No.64841227

>>64841122
maybe two years ago, but cherries are smoother and wobble way less. There's a reason why cherry is still the consumer standard

>> No.64841322

>>64841207
yes, you just posted something seemingly unrelated. you have to explain yourself, i can't read you mind

>> No.64841330

>>64841322
>yeah... so?

either i have those powers

>> No.64841366

>>64841330
you need to write coherently as well

>> No.64841386

>>64841366
> not an argument
stay mad

>> No.64841396

>>64841386
>either i have those powers
mate this is completely incoherent

>> No.64841405

>>64841396
so?

>> No.64841446

>>64841405
seems like you've resorted to acting like an utter retard now. sad. i was kind of interested in what you had to say.

>> No.64841483

>>64841446
dam at first i though that you where stupid, but now i know it for a fact.

>>>64841029
>seems like you've resorted to acting like an utter retard now. sad. i was kind of interested in what you had to say.
self defeated

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>>64839409
I'm not sure if this keyboard is mechanical or not, but I'm sure /mkg/ night like the keyboard I found at work
IBM SpaceSaver II RT3200

>> No.64841548

>>64841483
what puzzles you so much about the phrase "yeah... so?"
what point were you trying to make by pointing out fake watches?

>> No.64841683

>>64841548
that was just a counterargument for the argument that people want the original instead of replica not noticing that the replica is cheaper not because people want the original but because its of lower quality. Value for me primarily comes from the materials then manufacturing process and then what ever comes. Artisan keycaps for the most part are build form plastic and painted with plastic adding no real value to them besides fictional fefes thats why i say they are overpriced reddit meme.

Replicas to extract the maximum value cheap out on materials, instead of using 904L htey use regular the parts are replicated with the same precision as the original mening a consumer cant distinguish this so the whole idea of buying original ends up being placebo its trash products like pieces of plastic

very sleepy gona go eat, and then sleep

>> No.64841731

>>64841683
i completely agree with you in this case, but just the two of us don't control the value of keycaps. if people are willing to pay that much, then they have that value. just like people are willing to pay for original paintings or whatever

>> No.64842196

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda-ii-mechanical-keyboard-kit

Please tell me why I shouldn't spend $250 on a keyboard?
Please convince me.

>> No.64842294

>>64842196
Because you can spend $800 on a kustom.

>> No.64842783
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>> No.64842834

A warning and a beg for help: My nephew who's visiting bought a Logitech G910 keyboard with Romer G mechanical keys. He's lost the left Menu and CTRL keys. My warning: It seems impossible to find replacement keycaps for it since it uses their own special way of attaching them. And my beg for help: Is there anywhere I can get replacement keycaps?

I'm fairly sure "lost" means somewhere in his room but I doubt they will "turn up".

>> No.64842914

>>64842834
other than buying another board no there is no way to get replacement keycaps

>> No.64842993

When somebody says that e.g. the MX Speed has a "shallower acutation distance of just 1.2mm", what does that mean? Does it mean 1.2mm down from where it rests at the top? Or does it mean 1.2mm above bottoming out? Because if there's a total travel of 4mm to bottom out, the latter would mean you actually have to press 2.8mm to actuate.

>> No.64843063

>>64842993
i believe it means this switch needs to travel 1.2mm to actuate. it has a total travel of 3.4mm

>> No.64843133
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64843133

>func kb460
Name a more cost efficient keyboard
>You can't

>> No.64843429

>>64839776
Thanks for making me feel manly anon.

>> No.64843441

are unicomps any good? kinda tempted by their sun unix layout thing

>> No.64843517

>>64843441
its the same as an old ibm

>> No.64843873

Do I get fc660c
convince me!

>> No.64843881

>>64843517
is it though, I heard they starting slipping in quality

>> No.64843902

>>64843133
>Name a more cost efficient keyboard
the cheapest backlit rubber dome trash you can find.

>> No.64844084

>>64842783
>can partially blocks the red dot, as well as the irons
ree

>> No.64844112

>>64843873
get the fc980c instead, way more functional layout and only marginally bigger since the 660 has so much space waste, and made in Japan instead of just a QC pass done in Japan like the 660

>> No.64844314

>>64841508
It's sadly not mechanical. The only mechanical keyboard IBM made with a trackpoint is the Model M13. Unicomp is selling keyboards with them too though.

>> No.64844365

>>64840726
it would be good if not for those lousy works.

>> No.64844367

>>64839742
You haven’t seen the pastel pink and blue ones with flowers and shit yet.

>> No.64844504
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who do I pay to build me one? A variant with F-keys preferably, for work.
And also a mirrored tenkey pad for left handed use

>> No.64844626

>>64839550
Even the best cherry switches are garbage

>> No.64844718
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>>64844504
I have two 3D printers and previous experience in building keyboards (pic related is the second or third build), you can contact me preferably via Telegram at t.me/seiden
Or via email at [email protected]

>> No.64844726

>>64844504
Fkeys aren't common on that layout because look how vertical they would be, it would be a pain in the dick to reach them.

>> No.64844758
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64844758

If anyone wants 55g Topre without breaking the bank, here's a tip. I suffered with Novatouch (45g) for 2 years and I absolutely COULD NOT get used to typing on it, it was driving me crazy (despite my good typing technique and very fast WPM).

Yesterday I bought these 10g springs on AliExpress (just 10$!) and holy shit what a difference. Now I actually enjoy using this keyboard. Really recommend these. The feel of the keyboard didn't change very much, and neither did the sound (though I'd imagine genuine 55g sliders would feel a little better).

>> No.64844863

>>64844758
topre is gay

>> No.64845464

>>64844758
Yeah they come with the NIZ plum keyboards. Does it really feel like a 55g dome when you put them on? I figured it would be more desirable to have the weight in the actual dome.
I'm planning to buy a black plum nano, lube the sliders, put in redux light domes, and SA keycaps. Wondering if I should bother with the springs.

>> No.64845530

>contact seller on Craigslist about getting a buckling spring keyboard
>"I have a lot."
>ok send me a picture
>faggot ignores me
I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY JUST SHOW ME THE FUCKING KEYBOARD

>> No.64845543

>>64845530
Even worse he thinks any old IBM keyboard is bucking springs.

>> No.64845753

>>64844112
but 660c is C U T E

>> No.64845788

>>64845753
I'm about to buy one I think. I was going to go hhkb but I realized I need a key in the bottom left corner as that is my push to talk.
Which color of the 660c do you like the most?
Think cute is worth over getting the 55g realforce?

>> No.64845967

What's the cheapest silent mechanical keyboard humans can buy??

>> No.64846020

>>64845967
something with mx silent i guess

>> No.64846223
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F107 or F77?

>> No.64846319

>>64846223
Depends most F107s need simple restorations since the foam pad wears off over time and the keycaps often don’t match modern layouts. If you want hassle free then get the reproduction F77

>> No.64846565
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>>64844726
I do need the F keys for work though.

>>64844718
Cool, thanks for the quick answer. How good are your handwiring skills? Or are you capable of going the flexible PCB route, both shown in here? https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard/blob/master/guide/README.org#wiring

>> No.64846636

>>64846565
damit he has gone full premium on the parts XD
i can get it under 200 for sure

>> No.64846665
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>>64846636
cool, I'll be contacting you via email during the weekend. Do you speak German?

>> No.64846812

>>64845788
I heard that 45g topre feels better than 45g of other switches like mx red which I own. But I didnt try them myself.
I like the white one but depends on ur color setup really the gray looks cute too

>> No.64847257

>>64843873
I ordered a beige fc980c and it's in the mail, hopefully arriving either later today or next week, I can take pictures for you or answer questions about it then if you like anon

>> No.64847498

>>64846665
ye sure i speak German

filament 70
switch-tester - 30 (not neded)
key-caps 70 - € 28,09 dsa keycaps for aliexpress you may need another vertical key
teensy 2.0 30 - € 3,32 pro micro/?
switches 60 € 24,70 random aliexpress switches
usb cable 10 - fuck that you have already one
IO Expander, TRRS jacks and cable 30 - fuck the cable has no value, lcsc.com says they cost about 3€ lets say we find one in a pcb for about 15€
overall cost 300 - 140

140 assuming you have a 3d printer and you fine with lower end products.

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>>64846665
>>64846565
Deutsch geht bestens.

F-Keys kann man dranmachen, das is ne sache von ner halben Stunde oder weniger im CAD.
Mit handwiring hab ich mehr als genug Erfahrung (pic related ist handwired, mein 3D-gedrucktes Numpad ist ebenfalls handwired, hab auch mal n' PCB zerhackt um dann die taster zu ersetzen und das ganze zu handwiren). Flex-PCB ist ne möglichkeit, wobei mir's handwiren sinnvoller erscheint, aber das werd ich mer genauer anschauen wenn wer uns die entsprechende Frage stellen.

>>64847498
This is more or less accurate, but you're overestimating the price of filament by quite a bit. I'd estimate the price in terms of filament to be ten bucks at most.

>> No.64847681

>>64847602
why is this keyboard so hideous, was it complimentary at a hotel or something

>> No.64847783

>>64847681
yes, those chinks sure know how to keep their guests coming back

>> No.64847868

>>64847783
does the case sit flat?
how long took it for you to carve that case out?

>> No.64847933
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>>64847868
it sits perfectly flat (no reason why it wouldn't, it was carved from a solid block of wood).

Been quite a while since I made that thing, I think it took about four hours of uninterrupted hitting a chisel with a hammer until I had enough material out so that I could comfortably fit all the internals.

>> No.64847968

Where can I buy exotic keymap?Like Dvorak or Bepo?

>> No.64848057

>>64847968
Kits will usually have a selection

>> No.64848363

>>64847968
don't do it, alternate keymaps are not worth it

>> No.64848654

>>64840031
Is that the HHKB layout?

>> No.64848730

>>64841227
Yes: Mindshare.

>> No.64848850

Model M feels better than the Model F

>> No.64849241
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What are you typing on today?
I just swapped out my speed cm pbt s and deathadder for this gateron brown vb87m and g603 because what keyboard enthusiast doesn't switch their board at least twice a day?
Tina c custom and real force 87u 55g due in 3 weeks.

>> No.64849432

Can someone tell me why when I hold down 3 keys on my model m SSK it makes a beeping sound through my headphones?

>> No.64849500

>>64849432
it means invalid key combination, you've overloading how many keys the keyboard can send at once

>> No.64849809

>>64839550
>best switch
>"useless shit"
1 digit IQ tier guide

>> No.64849828

is there a switch quiet enough that you can take your keyboard to a lecture and not annoy the shit out of everybody

>> No.64849835

>>64849828
Rubber dome

>> No.64849840
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64849840

>>64849241

>> No.64849849

>>64849828
sure something with a low travel and linear or cherry mx silent

>> No.64849850

>>64849828
>caring if others can hear the lecture
you're not paying for them

>> No.64849860

>>64849835
pls no

>>64849849
makes sense

>>64849850
well I like to think I'm a decent person

>> No.64849933
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64849933

>>64849828
>Wants mechanical switches that aren't mechanical

>> No.64849944

>>64849933
>uses anus instead of brain to think

>> No.64850633

>>64849944
Your best bet would be Matias Quiet Linear, but they are light as fuck.

>> No.64850712

>>64849828
Yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BB6jqcGHkQ
Zealio housings, 62g sprit springs. cherry silent black stems, kryox lube

>> No.64850740

>>64850712
>Zeal
>Sprit
>supporting the two biggest scammers in the MK community

>> No.64850784

>>64850740
This

>> No.64850805

>>64850740
Can you give me a quick rundown on Sprit?

>> No.64850808

>>64850740
I scam people myself I don't give a fuck

>> No.64850827

>>64850740
when did zeal scam? I saw the sprit stuff on GH but I've been out of touch the past several months

>> No.64850989

>>64847602
Freut mich zu hören. Werde mich per Mail melden, um die Details zu klären. Habe leider keinen Zugang zu einem 3D Drucker. Preislich bewegt sich deine Schätzung in einem machbaren Rahmen.

>> No.64851163

What about hydraulic switches with programmable resistance profiles?
One micro pump for every switch
They could be 100% silent

>> No.64851272

>>64851163
not gonna lie, i thought about switches where you can regulate the spring by twisting a piece but never though on that thing lol

>> No.64851424

>>64850827
the price of zeal's products is a scam itself

>> No.64851483

>>64851424
but but but anon someone told me that the falue of a product is determine by the consumer! h-h-how are you telling me that they are a scam? are you pour?

>> No.64851511

Round 2 of these started up if anyone's interested.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

>> No.64851531

>>64851424
It's a joke, idk about a scam. They are the best housings. Switch it's self is useless garbage of course. Though aliaz is close, would probably be hard to tell the difference sound wise if you didn't have the zealio housed mx silent right there to test.

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64851608

>>64839409
I think I'm getting a point of sale keyboard next.

>> No.64851634

>>64851483
those things don't contradict each other you know
>>64851531
i was mostly joking, but you'd never catch me buying zilents. also
>5mm meme plate

>> No.64851737

>>64851634
why are they considered a scam if not for the high price tag? your point is irrelevant to the discussion

>> No.64851835

>>64840289
Oh shit it's Cyra!

>> No.64852053 [DELETED] 

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>> No.64852089
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64852089

>>64849241
An IBM P70 keyboard with ALPS plate spring. People say that it feels like a simplified beam spring, but I highly doubt that. It's not as fun to type on as a buckling spring, but I do like that it's quieter and lighter

>> No.64852123

How much and how retarded could be trying to redesign a drop in replacement keyboard with mech switches for some well know laptop brands (Thinkpad, Macbook)?

>> No.64852150

>>64852053
No.

>> No.64852207

>>64852123
>How much
a lot
>and how retarded
yes you are retarded
>could be trying to
that sentence doesn't make sense
>redesign a drop in replacement keyboard
wait those exist? why would you want to redesign them? are they that bad?
>with mech switches for some well know laptop brands (Thinkpad, Macbook)?
that's not possible due to height constraints
It sounds to me like English isn't your first language and you probably grew up in some third world country where their shit educational system somehow convinced you that your ideas are good. How about you don't post anymore to stop further embarrassing yourself.

>> No.64852212
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64852212

What am I in for /g/ents

>> No.64852222

>>64852212
overpriced memes

>> No.64852232
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64852232

>>64852089
based

>> No.64852309
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64852309

>>64852212
>nonstandard shitty lasered abs caps

>> No.64852343

>>64844504
>>64846565
You have all those thumb keys now to easily hold one down to get the F-key layer on the number row.

>> No.64852425

>>64851737
it's not literally a scam, i said i was joking you thick cunt

>> No.64852427

>>64852207
Ow the edge

>> No.64852457

>>64852425
irrelevant importation, people say zealios are a scam because they are an expensive not because you said it.

>> No.64852499

reminder: zealios is a scam and topre is gay

>> No.64852519

@64852457
>people say zealios are a scam because they are an expensive not because you said it.
write coherently if you want a (You)

>> No.64852537

@64852519
suck my balls faggot

>> No.64852567

>>64852519
>holding a (you) as hostage

>> No.64852628

>>64852499
Topre is also a scam

>> No.64852811

any one of you knows a decent service for CNC machined parts or 3D printed?

>> No.64852818

>>64852811
a local shop could be the best option for cnc

>> No.64852884

>>64852818
I live in Spain, this people are greedy as hell, they just put high price tags on everything waiting for an idiot to pay and the rest of the day they spend it doing siesta

>> No.64852966

>>64852811
china I guess
http://www.hlhprototypes.com/cnc-machine.php

>> No.64853012

>>64852966
you used this site or it was pulled from a kick google search?

>> No.64853030

>>64853012
google

>> No.64853037

>>64839458
Realforce tkl master race reporting

>> No.64853074

>>64852519
>>64852537

Newfag alert

>> No.64853085

>>64853074
why?

>> No.64853170

>>64853074
Actual newfag alert

>> No.64853199
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64853199

>There are people here typing on anything other than Buckling spring, Beam spring, or Alps.

>> No.64853255

>>64852811
Due to corner dimensions for switches, plates have to be laser or waterjet cut.

>>64852884
That's going to increase the cost for machine man hours. Trying to get a case made?

>> No.64853295

>>64853199
what about IBM capacitive rubber domes

>> No.64853302

>>64853255
im just looking for a page with decent price tags that wont break my wallet, yes its a case not a plate

>> No.64853315

>>64853295
Read my comment again

>> No.64853403
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64853403

Convince me not to buy one

>> No.64853423

>>64853403
the 107 is better

>> No.64853446

>>64853423
Not industrial gray and I don't need the extra keys

>> No.64853486

>>64853446
well if you want chink knockoffs then go ahead

>> No.64853804
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64853804

will i get called gay for buying this mousepad?

>> No.64853819

>>64853804
only if you pair it with a white keyboard and these keycaps
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjT7ezQwr3ZAhUjTd8KHZYbAtUQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.massdrop.com%2Fbuy%2Fgodspeed-custom-sa-keycap-set&usg=AOvVaw2awBLLsGXS9UTHEQZVFkQF

>> No.64853849
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64853849

>>64853819
i would do anything for those keycaps

>> No.64853873
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64853873

>>64853804

>> No.64853899

>>64852207
How about no? :^)

>> No.64853927

>>64853873
For what shitty cause the A stands?

>> No.64853933

>>64853804
>>64853819
nice try jake, we don't care about your shiti products

>> No.64853942

>>64853873
>>64853933
wtf ive been exposed

>> No.64853987

>>64853927
That's a very good question. I have no idea.

>> No.64854029

>>64853804
No there's nothing gay about it. ignore the projecting soyposters

>> No.64854431
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64854431

>Godspeed XDA finally shipping

>> No.64854499

>>64848730
Nah pressure from companies like gateron got cherry to get their ass in gear and refresh their molds for the first time in 20 years.

>> No.64854633

>>64854499
And they finally updated their low profile switches after the chinks came out with superior clones

>> No.64854648

>>64854499
True but Cherry would be the consumer standard now regardless

>> No.64854660

Can I buy aristotles anywhere besides reddit/geekhack?

>> No.64854829

>>64854648
No, big brands prefer chink switches, just the little brands like ducky use cherry

>> No.64854867

is durgod the new chink board of choice?

>> No.64854931

>>64839935
what does the "hack" button do?

>> No.64854936

>>64854931
it hacks can't you read nigger

>> No.64854973

>>64842783
Nothing like a can and an extended mag on a CC/EDC.

>> No.64855165

>>64841227
>cherries are smoother and wobble way less. There's a reason why cherry is still the consumer standard
Cherry is still the standard and has been around for decades. I really do like Gaterons and appreciate the low cost option to play around with. Any MX style that isn't Cherry will always be a knockoff even if there is this month's gimmick added on.

For pure typing experience I have a strong preference for Cherry Blues. My main board has Cherry Clears and I made a custom layout board with Gateron Clears. The Gaterons are a fun alternative to the much stiffer Cherrys.

I had bought a full size with Blues but gave that away when I wanted to try Clears on a smaller sized board. It is nice to have the options but I want another board with Blues again but TKL as that is the way to go.

>> No.64855209

>>64855165
Cherry, gateron, kailh, they're all garbage.

>> No.64855241

>>64855209
wrong

>> No.64855271

>>64854829
What big brand besides Razer uses chink clones?

>> No.64855306
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64855306

>>64851163
>One micro pump for every switch
>They could be 100% silent
I wish you cold be 100% silent.

>> No.64855351

>>64855271
steelseries

other than that no one else

>> No.64855370

>>64855351
case in point

>> No.64855518

>>64841227
the only reason it's standard anything (and derivatives) is because of its cheapness

>> No.64855548

>>64855518
also the marketing hype built up around it. i cringe whenever some gamer faggot says "authentic cherry" and treats them like the highest quality switches in existence

>> No.64855611

Do you guys like gat blues

>> No.64855618
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64855618

Should I pick up a set just to resell to redditards who will overpay for these?

>> No.64855621

>>64855618
yes

>> No.64855627

>>64855611
no blues are rattly shit.

>> No.64855655

>>64844758
Just get some BKE domes.

>> No.64855699

>>64845464
I've got one of those springs on my space bar and a 55g Topre switch tester and they feel very different. The spring adds linear resistance rather than a larger bump to overcome.

>> No.64855720

>>64855621
Joined, thanks

>> No.64855723

>>64855618
They don't seem like they're going to stop being produced anytime soon.

>> No.64855783

>>64855723
Novelkeys has been sold out for a while plus it's a hot reddit meme

>> No.64855802

>>64855783
Pretty sure they're in stock mate

>> No.64855803

>>64855723
get it from kbdfans then

>> No.64855889

>>64855802
Just noticed that. Do you think they'll ship faster than Assdrop? It's only ~$1 shipping difference

>> No.64855918

>>64855889
yes, will definitely ship faster than assdrop. assdrop is also only a few dollars cheaper

>> No.64855972

>>64855889
yeah
>Estimated ship date is May 24, 2018 PT.
lmao

>> No.64855976

>>64855918
Assdrop, kbdfans or novelkeys, which to buy from?

>> No.64855993

>>64855618
>>64855976
listen you stupid jew, no one is going to rebuy your shit when they can buy it straight from chinks who mass produce it

>> No.64856002

>>64855976
novelkeys, assdrop is out of question and you don't have to wait for chink shipping

>> No.64856047

>>64855993
>Zeal still exists
you're proven wrong every day

>> No.64856080

>>64856047
>comparing exlusive zeals to kailh box which is not exclusive

>> No.64856090

>>64856080
t. Zeal

>> No.64856091

>>64856047
good luck buying any of zeal's products straight from chinkland

>> No.64856142

>>64856091
>Zeal doesn't deal with Chinese
ZDF on full alert tonight

>> No.64856175
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64856175

>>64856047
also zeals (which are exlusive to zealpc) are on massdrop right now.

why dont you buy & resell that instead of box navies which are available everywhere in the chink trade

stupid jew

>> No.64856214

>>64856142
>Zeal doesn't deal with Chinese
how the fuck did you get that from my post?
show me where to buy zeal's products straight from china

>> No.64856237

>>64848267
I like them a lot. Moved from blues, they are much more tactile. The bump is also a lot higher, to the point where I can barely feel the distance before I hit it; personally like that very much.
Took jades over navies since I was worried navies would be too heavy. I believe jades have the same force as blues, and I'm quite happy with where it's at now.

>> No.64856244
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64856244

>>64853987

>> No.64856245

>>64856237
they're definitely heavier than blues due to their much higher tactility

>> No.64856304

>>64856214
kbdfans

>> No.64856328

I have DSA Elven but I don't like DSA that much so I don't even use it. I kind of want a set or two of GMK/JTK keycaps. I'm so reluctant to sell/trade my Elven and I'm not even a huge Tolkien nerd.

>> No.64856348

>>64856328
>buy cubic jukebox
>has not left box since delivery
Don't feel too bad

>> No.64856545

I need to replace the elevator feet on a model M that is missing them, any smart idea? I don't feel like paying 30 dollar to get them from clickykeyboards.
Can I just do a ghetto solution and use the feet from some other, cheaper, keyboard model?

>> No.64857457

>>64852053
Yes

>> No.64857790

>>64839458
Yeah and 200 years from now when your shitty Topre keyswitches are rotted out my model M will be serving my granddaughter in university

>> No.64857806

>>64839550
this is the worst guide I've ever seen

but yes, continue spreading misinformation. Cherry switches are garbage and even cheap chink nonsense is higher quality. Give Alps switches a shot if you want to feel the perfect keyswitch. In particular, the early ones. Thinking about building a custom board with them in the near future.

>> No.64857819

>>64840726
I wish there was something similar for people who like to use their computer

>> No.64857825

cherry = trash
topre = trash
buckling = trash
alps = trash
cherry clones = trash

>> No.64857838

>>64857790
yea im sure your biologically unrelated granddaughter would love your cheetos & semen stained board

>> No.64857849

>>64852089
one of my all time favorites. Post more keyboard porn?

>> No.64857863

>>64857838
Nope, it's pristine. I've restored and sold like 5 of them locally. I'm not saying modern keyboards are total shit, there are quite a few new designs that I frequently use, but I always end up going back to my model M. Plus it's way easier to find old mechanical keyboards at thrift stores.

>> No.64857874

>>64839458
What's your personal favourite?

>> No.64857881

Why did DVORAK lose?

>> No.64857930

>>64857881
memes dont last forever

>> No.64857963

>>64857881
Because QWERTY had a fifty year head start on everything that mattered. There's nothing particularly wrong with it, and it was a race run by business people who would much rather run a seamless transition from standard typewriters to computers in the 60's and 70's. That included layouts.

DVORAK did get a victory in that it's a standard selectable layout in stuff like windows though. That's good for people who use it or want to try it out.

>> No.64858006

>model m's in australia for -$100
>all sellers live in retarded areas with population of 100

>> No.64858126

>>64857790
>membrane keyboard
>lasting more then 50 years
Good one m8

>> No.64858236
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64858236

>>64857849
The SSK or the P70?

>> No.64858266
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64858266

>>64840726
Where did you get those stickers? I want to weeb my keyboard too.

>> No.64858355
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64858355

>>64856237
You're right navies are too heavy if you like blues. I was stupid enough to get navies and holy shit they are so heavy I can barely type on them. Now I'm thinking about desoldering the whole fucking board, throwing the switches away and getting jades instead.

>> No.64858791
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64858791

Can somebody ID this keyboard?

>> No.64858797

>>64858791
drevo

>> No.64858831

>>64858797
don't think so. the keycaps are definitely either pbt or pom. drevo is shitty abs garbage.

>> No.64858848

>>64858791
Noppoo choc mini

>> No.64858985
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64858985

So I am going to build mechanical keyboard myself, GH60+mount plate+plastic case + gateron blues. Can't find decent keycaps tho, I want something with HHKB color palette. Any recommendations?

>> No.64859075

>>64858985
white+grey keycaps shouldnt be hard

try pimpmykeyboard

>> No.64859139

>>64858985
KBDfans has some

>> No.64859174

>>64858985
Just a heads up I had to order some diodes for a terminal handwire last week, but Arrow Electronics has the standard 1N whatevers for .6 cents apiece. I got 250 of them for less than a $1.50 with free two day shipping. Better than whatever mechanicalkeyboards is charging these days for the same thing.

>> No.64859175

>>64856244
>atheism as identity politics
I want to get out of this gay earth.

>> No.64859192

>>64854660
Why buy aristotle when Kahil BOX exists?

>> No.64859646

Finally tried some topre switches. No one is going to cough up $200 for glorified membranes, right?

>> No.64859678

>>64859646
They're rubber domes not membranes, they are garbage though.

>> No.64859689

>>64859646
no, it is well established that topre is GAY

>> No.64859772

>>64859192
For the better tactile curve

>> No.64859787
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64859787

>>64859646
Rubber domes and membranes aren’t the same thing

>> No.64860443

>>64858848
should I buy a used noppoo choc mini with mx reds for $43 shipped?

>> No.64860559

>>64860443
Get a plum 84, it’s the same keyboard rebranded

>> No.64860577

>>64860559
isnt the plum electro capacitive and like $109 at minimum?

>> No.64860605

>>64860577
arbitrary pricing based on the mod of the developer

>> No.64860642
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64860642

I got this for free
Does it have any chances to be good?

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64860665

>>64860642

>> No.64860685

>>64860642
How about you try it out?

>> No.64860690

>>64860665
>Topre
Throw it out

>> No.64860698

>>64860642
>>64860665
clean the keyboard
clean your table
clean your room

>> No.64860823

>>64860577
There are also mechanical versions

>> No.64860841

>>64860577
>>64860823
Of course I forget the link
aliexpress.com/item/32767632458.html

>> No.64860869

>>64860698
Shut up Dr. Peterson. Your expertise doesn't extent to my choice of typographical interface.

>> No.64861107
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64861107

anyone have a durgod board?

is it worth the shekels?

>> No.64861184

>>64860869
dont piss off peterson, bucko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhdEbOzcN1U

>> No.64861478

>>64858355
Honestly Jades are my least favorite of the Kailh switches I've tried. The spring is so light compared to the click bar that it's almost impossible to not bottom out after the click, which makes them even louder than Navies.

>> No.64861601

Why doesn't kailh use a tactile stem along with the click bar?

>> No.64862715

>>64861601
muh ip56 rating

>> No.64862753

New thread!
>>64862744
>>64862744
>>64862744

>> No.64862922

>>64861601
purple box tactile switch was teased by novel keys, supposedly coming late march, look at the banner on their front page, purple switch dead center.

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