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wtf /g/ I thought gnu+linux was supposed to be lightweight

>> No.64732826

>>64732810
well, in comparison...

>> No.64732842

I remember it's installed size being much larger than that.

It's horrible

>> No.64732902

>>64732842
you probably needed even more dependencies than me

>> No.64732957

>>64732902
Just installing plasma group on arch downloads 230mb and installs into 730mb

>> No.64732972

300+ MiB for a DE is tiny.
Especially for one with as many features and graphics as KDE.

The core OS underneath all of that is tiny, and can be made to fit within 8 MiB.

>> No.64732991

>>64732972
I'm not installed the whole DE, I'm just installing a video editing program

>> No.64733067

Does --no-install-recommends help much?

>> No.64733077

>>64732991
it's part of KDE and depends on it

>> No.64733233

>>64733077
It's supposed to be the best FOSS video editor, if it's locked behind one DE that's a big problem.
>>64733067
brings it down to 212mb

>> No.64733268

>>64733233
You only need the framework, then it will run on any DE. So what's the issue?

>> No.64733272

>>64733233
>212mb
Good enough?

>> No.64733375

>>64733272
I guess so, it's still a lot of dependencies just because it's made for a different DE

>> No.64733421

>>64732810
you already have gnu+linux, you are trying to install something which is NOT gnu+linux

>> No.64733761

>>64733375
On the bright side, those dependencies will now be available if/when you decide to install further KDE software.

>> No.64733851

>>64732810
>300 MB for a video editor
Compared to premiere and other comparable editors, that's nothing.

>> No.64733919

>>64732810(Should just download the appimage)
http://mirror.its.dal.ca/kde-applicationdata/kdenlive/release/

>> No.64733962

>>64733919
What does that do?

>> No.64733983

>>64733962
kdenlive

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64734008

>>64733983
I mean what's the difference between that and the normal package?

>> No.64734075

>>64734008
You won't need to install all the dependencies.
Just download and chmod executable.
Add a menu entry, or just click the appimage file to run it.
I'm using krita appimage from the krita download page, too.
Only prob is you need to check for updates manually.

>> No.64734649

>>64734008
statically linked binaries.
think windows .dll as opposed to Linux dependency hell

>> No.64734968

>>64734649
GNU/Linux*

>> No.64735293

>>64733233
It's not locked behind one DE tho. KDE is just dependency hell

>> No.64735349

>>64734649
>statically linked binaries.
>think windows .dll as opposed to Linux dependency hell
>think windows "Dynamically Linked Library"
Anon...

A static binary has all libraries built into the executable. If you ship a windows .dll it's a separate file (on linux .so for shared-object), which gets loaded at runtime. You can do that with linux too, but this is not happening here.

>> No.64736368

>>64732810
KDE packages are terrible, they require a lot of k* dependencies.
If you want a lighter as in disk size alternative I suggest you look at something other than KDE programs.

>> No.64736395

>>64732810
The attack surface linux has is insane

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>>64732810
>wtf /g/ I thought gnu+linux was supposed to be lightweight

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64737604

>>64732810
Maybe you should talk to the devs...
Openshot for comparison
http://www.openshotusers.com/help/1.3/en_GB/ar01s28.html

And Handbrake - https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/developer/install-dependencies-debian.html

Apples and oranges I know but even so - blaming an OS or distro form the fact that developers have written something the needs a lot of dependencies is a little disingenuous...

>> No.64737734

>>64732810
cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Install-Recommends "false";
APT::Install-Suggests "false";

now it's lighter weight

>> No.64738681

>>64732810
>apt
Stopped looking at the pic right there.

>> No.64738698

>>64732810
>300 additional MB on some minimal X system
That's much smaller than Windows or OS X.

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