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How to request purchase advice: http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

/g/ wiki headphone FAQ: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Headphone guide: https://canpicker.com/

Previous thread: >>64577256

>> No.64587129
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a-anon, have you bought your STAX yet?

>> No.64587139

Anyone else have the Beyerdynamics DT series?

The cable keeps rubbing on my shoulder / clothes and because the cord is rubber, the sound is transported into the cup which is FUCKING ANNOYING JESUS CHRIST I CAN'T STOP HEARING IT... I can't even breathe without it making a noise

I might unironically just buy some wireless headset to ease my suffering.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.64587171

>>64587101
I wanna lick her feet

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>>64587129
Yes, I did.

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>>64587226

>> No.64587266
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do any of you knows about speaker amps?
is Vincent a good manufacturer?, i'm considering buying the vincent SP-997 amps

>> No.64587303

>>64587266
What are you going to power with them? Looks good for a monoblock, just keep in mind that you'll need two of them. I kind of doubt that anyone here has had experience with Vincent amps, let alone most of us.

>> No.64587403

Reposting from last thread.

How are the Nuforce EDC IEMs from massdrop? I know they're dark but would they be good to go to the gym? I'm tired of takin eytmotics and having to adjust them while working out

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>>64587101
Hi Tyll from InnerFidelity here

Just here to remind you that the HiFiMAN HE400S is the best headphone in its price range and that Stax headphones don't deserve a place in my hall of fame.

>> No.64587418

>>64587303
i plan to use them with my ascend acoustics CBM-170SE
> just keep in mind that you'll need two of them
i know, they're sold in pairs anyway

>> No.64587434

>>64587409
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: ...uncalled for catchphrases...

>> No.64587451

I use sennheiser game ones... should i kill my self? Ive had them for a few years.. Where should i start on the road to good headphones? Currently using on board audio as well. Help me out /hpg/ i want to experience true audio

Will use them only at the PC for extended amounts of time. I listen to weeb shit & classical/piano/violin and occasional electronic.

>> No.64587465

>>64587451
>Help me out /hpg/ i want to experience true audio
leave while you still can

>> No.64587476

>>64587451
>weeb shit
>classical
>electronic
STAX time my nib

>> No.64587487

>>64587451
Sennheiser Game One are pretty good, the only real upgrade would be something in the mid-fi range like the HD600/650 or the K702.
Even then the difference isn't mind-blowing, though if you don't have much audio experience you may think otherwise.

>> No.64587520

>>64587451
>>64587476
unironically this

https://www.staxaudio.com/earspeaker/sr-l300limited

>> No.64587533

>>64587487
My brother uses HD599 , How do HD600/650 compare to those? i know the hd599 are comfortable when i used them for like 10 minutes.

>>64587476
Im audio retarded. You say stax , but where do i even begin?

>> No.64587539

Anyone tried the xiaomi headphones 2nd gen? They're said to have graphene drivers and ever since the superlux, i have a bit more respect for chinese audio products and would like to know how they are compared to others.

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64587549

let's say I have a bunch of random USB sound devices, dac+amp etc ranging in quality and type and I want to compare them, obviously you can listen to them all, look at specs, but let's say I just want some software to test them and spit out graphs and numbers, is RightMark Audio Analyzer a good starting place? I don't want to bother setting it all up and figuring it out if there's something much better.

RMAA is just the first free one that came up, GSMArena uses it to test audio from phones.

>> No.64587550

>>64587533
Look for a pro bias STAX amp on ebay. Wikipedia has a list of them. Then buy this >>64587520

>> No.64587557

>>64587520
Is the limited edition any better performance wise? or could i got for regular srl300? If i am paying 300$ for the cool factor only ill pass.

>> No.64587563

>>64587557
the limited edition is the L700 driver in the L300 housing. the L700 is $1400. it's basically a 50% off STAX

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>>64587101
Idol trash here.
Are you ready for the Love Live Memorial Box III, Anon?
https://j-mag.org/2018/02/02/lovelive_solocd_jacket/

>> No.64587595

>>64587451
Read OP on how to format your asking for advice. You haven't even stated a budget so how can we recommend stuff to you? If we told you to buy $4000 headphones would you do it?

>> No.64587631

>>64587533
The HD599 isn't really good, so the HD600 would probably be immensely better.
The Game One being based on the HD558/598 is much closer to the 600 series.
The other STAX posters are kinda memeing you though (unless you have a huge budget), they're unironically the best thing out there, but a decent setup will cost you $700 at best.
>>64587557
The limited edition has the L700 stators, which means it'll sound much different than the standard L300.
L700 is in the kilobuck range, this is a pretty huge discount since the L300 LE will be very close sound-wise. It might even be better.
>>64587594
I'll buy that box.

>> No.64587652

>>64587550
>pro bias STAX amp on ebay
Are there any new amps for it that you would recommend or is the only way to get one secondhand?

>> No.64587676

>>64587652
New amps cost a shit ton. Save yourself some money and buy a used one. They sound the same anyways. SRM1-mk2 is a good one to look for

>> No.64587679

>>64587652
don't buy new. any pro bias amp will do, the L300/L700 are not picky. get the cheapest (SRM-252, SRM-1/mk2) you can find on ebay

also, I hate to link a newcomer to zeos because he's basically an audio peddler at this point but I wanted to show you that we're not just dicking around and trolling you into buying an expensive purchase. STAX is legit and well known.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R869ABpfdaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB48jsRxpTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0EtAF_lEk

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>>64587451
>Where should I start on the road to good headphones?
Get HD600.
>weeb shit
See >>64587594
Idol voices sound good and detailed beyond ridiculous.
>classical
They're excellent at classical.
>piano
They're good at piano.
>violin
You can actually hear the texture of the strings in these. The midrange is godlike.
Seriously, get HD600, you can't go wrong with these, and they'll last you forever. Any cheaper and it'll be a shitty, temp compromise of a headphone.

>> No.64587682

>>64587451
You're going from rash to kino. But you won;t even be impressed, because it's kino, and you're a pleb.

These things take time. You WILL be disappointed initially.

>> No.64587692

STAX is a little excessive price wise for me i would rather put that money elsewhere.

If i got the HD600 would i need anything else? I'm sure on board audio isn't going to do it justice.. I am not even sure if it does the game ones justice.

>> No.64587705

>>64587679

I'm aware of STAX i just cant bring my self to spend that much of headphones/amp. Not yet at least.

>> No.64587724

>>64587705
sell them for exactly the same price you bought them for on /r/avexchange. there's no risk that way

>> No.64587737

>>64587692
If you watch movies you almost certainly need it. My experience trying to use a HD650 on the headphone out of a laptop because of sheer curiosity, you can get an acceptable volume and performance for music with low amount of dynamics (anything modern, pop, rock, metal, electro) but the headphone out starts crapping out and putting distortion at higher than 70% volume, and even used at 100% it wouldn't be enough decibels for recordings with lots of dynamics (classical music) or for watching movies.
If you want a very cheap combo get the FiiO E10K. It's not the best thing, but it performs well with the HD600. If you want the absolute best performance spec for spec get a dac like the OLDAC and pair it to an amp like the O2, Magni 3 or FiiO K5. You could also always get the E10K as a started dac/amp and then use it as a dac when you decide to buy an amp.

>> No.64587738

>>64587679
What would be the best choice, SRM-252S or SRM-1 non-MK2 ?
I can get any of these for pretty much the same price, so I'm unsure.

>> No.64587749

>>64587738
SRM-1 mk2 is basically the srm-353

>> No.64587755

>>64587533
>My brother uses HD599 , How do HD600/650 compare to those?
HD600 is an order of magnitude better than HD5xx. There's quite the jump in sound quality. I moved from 598 to 600 myself.

>> No.64587759

>>64587738
oh sorry, non mk2, I don't know. someone else might be able to help you. either way 252S is bottom barrel and enough for the L300/500/700

>> No.64587775

>>64587755
Indeed, anyone stating that the difference is minor is lying to themselves or deaf. HD5xx are grainy headphones with kinda muddy bass lines. Any of the midfi cans (HD600, HD650, K702, K712, DT880..) will be a very noticeable improvement over these.

>> No.64587791

>>64587692
>If i got the HD600 would i need anything else?
They're high impedance and low sensitivity, which in layman words means they'll sound decent out of any output.
To get 100% out of them, you'll need an external dac like uae23, OL-DAC or topping D30, and an external amp, like Magni3 or O2. But it's a minor difference. In terms of enjoyment, let's say going from HD599 to HD600 is a +70%, whereas getting amp/dac for the HD600 is a +20%.

>> No.64587803

>>64587737

So Magni3 & Modi2. Any notable pros cons of hd600 vs 650?

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>>64587803
>Any notable pros cons of hd600 vs 650?
you asked the question which should NOT have been asked

>> No.64587824

>>64587434
see
>>64587594

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>>64587816
Why not anon?

>> No.64587831

>>64587803
Get the HD600. If you get the 650 like I did you will probably end up using EQs to make it sound more like the HD600. The differences between the two is that the HD650 tones down the treble even more than the HD600 (and the 600 are known as 'polite' headphones) and they boost the midbass, which doesn't actually improve the bass at all because the subbass is still just as lacking as the HD600 so you still won't get the full bass body you'd expect.

Don't buy the modi 2, it can suffer from USB interference. Get the powered modi 2 uber if you really have to buy a modi, but you are better off buying an OLDAC. Just because you want the magni doesn't mean you can't pair it with another DAC.

>> No.64587838

How do i know if my phone has a decent audio chip or not?

>> No.64587842

>>64587803
HD600 has a better tone overall, more neutral.
HD650 has a slight mid-bass hump.
Both will sound unimpressive and relatively crappy unless you EQ them, so get whichever's cheaper.
HD6XX (rebranded HD650) can be found for $190-200 brand new or barely used on eBay and /r/avexchange, so that would be my pick.
I suggest getting the OL DAC instead of the Modi and O2 instead of the Magni, though it doesn't really matter much for the amp.

>> No.64587845

>>64587829
because the hd600/650 is the autist's headphone and they come out of the woodworks to squabble endlessly over which is better. not even 50 posts in and you've ruined it, what have you done?

>> No.64587856

>>64587838
You google it if your phone is popular enough there might be someone who has tested its spec and qualities. If it's not popular enough then you are on your own and can only try to compare by ear by using a known good source and comparing it to your phone.

>> No.64587862

>>64587803
>Magni3
Yes.
>Modi2
There's much better in DACs at that price, such as the ones the other anon suggested.
If you still want one anyway because it looks good @ stack, get the uber version. Avoid the basic USB powered version like the plague.
>HD650 vs HD600
They're almost the same thing, but HD600 sounds good by default, whereas HD650 does need EQ.
HD600 is generally considered better by reviewers that tested both, and is better from an strictly objective standpoint (HD600 is less neutral).
Both are excellent headphones, but HD600 is the magical one that's just right.

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>>64587831
>Get the HD600

>> No.64587880

>>64587872
>Get the HD600
About the best advice I've seen in this place.

>> No.64587881

>>64587831
So

HD600 , OLDAC , MAGNI? or is their a better option?

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>>64587880
for someone who can't afford stax which is superior in every way, sure

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>all these HD600 soyboys thinking there headphone is 200% better than any alternative headphone

Whats it like being an audiofool?

>> No.64587926

>>64587791
For anyone out there lurking these threads trying to get an understanding of this hobby. This pretty much sums it up.

>> No.64587927

>>64587881
These are very safe picks. The only thing I might add is that if you enjoy bass a lot, you might honestly prefer the less natural sounding DT880 or K712. But if you felt your brother's HD599 sounded very good, you probably won't be yearning for dat bass much and the HD600 does sound very natural.

>> No.64587931

>>64587915
it could be worse
they could own hifimans

>> No.64587951

>>64587927
>The only thing I might add is that if you enjoy bass a lot, you might honestly prefer the less natural sounding DT880 or K712
weird, i heard people complaining about lack of bass on K712

>> No.64587953

>>64587926
Yes, but it's missing something key here. You don't -need- the amp to get great enjoyment of a can like the HD600 and it still sounds better than lower end headphones even on your computer headphone out but.. your computer headphone out is not capable of making it sound loud enough for some specific things. Like movies, or very dynamic classical recordings. You'll be fine for general modern music consumption though.

>> No.64587954

>>64587915
>All these delusional dyanmicucks
100% Lmao

>> No.64587960
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>>64587915
Whats it like to not own headphones?

>> No.64587963

>>64587951
Those people probably came from closed headphones before buying the K712. If you complain about lack of bass on a K712 and then jump on a HD600 or K702 you will complain EVEN MORE about their lack of bass. The Sennheiser, and the AKG 702, are the cans with the least bass of all mid-fi open headphones.
I've heard people complain about the AD700X bass all the time and those phones have more bass than an HD600 too.

>> No.64587964

>>64587881
>HD600
>OL-DAC
>Magni3
That's very good
>is there a better option
Not unless your budget goes up considerably, to $1k+.
There, options appear such as HD800, focal clear, some planars like the LCD-2c and electrostats like the STAX stuff people do keep mentioning.
Even if you got one of those down the road, you'd still find yourself often going back to your HD600 for the just right balance they have overall.

>> No.64587968

>>64587101
GREAT op

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>>64587101
why do the Focal Elears have a reputation for having a huge hole in their mids but not the Clears and Utopias ?

>> No.64587981

>>64587139
This is a problem on tighter ones like DT770s. My DT880s are great, but I have a separate issue..the velour earcups rub on my glasses and make awful noises. Other than that I love them, but it's still really annoying.
I have Bose qc35s as well, but wireless is a pain. Sound lag and shitty bluetooth range (as in, so bad that I turn my head away from my computer and the sound cuts out) make them terrible for anything other than listening to music while sitting/standing at my desk. Very good for that though, I was pleasantly surprised by the ANC and decent sound.

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>>64587927

My biggest concern is it will ship with UPS

>> No.64587986

>>64587915
What is it like posting this same image towards any kind of 600 discussion ever?

I've only been here a day and a half in the last 3 weeks and you're here nonstop. Sort your fucking life out you freak lmao

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>>64587964
>There, options appear such as HD800
my dad won't give my ma900 back that I let him borrow so now I need to buy an hd800. just when you think you are done buying stuff

>> No.64587991

>>64587977
Because very few own an Utopia ($4000 headphones) and the Clear is still a bit new.

>> No.64588005

>>64587960
Answer that yourself, fagboi

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>>64587964
>he thinks STAX are unattainable kilobuck tier
L300 is only $100 more than the HD600, what's your excuse for not owning an Electrochad ?
>b-but anon the a-amp...
Only $100 more than a Schiit Stack/O2 setup. For an electrostatic.
Why do people even advice getting low-fi garbage like AKG or Sennheiser ?

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>>64587977
Really makes you think.

>> No.64588033

>>64588017
>L300 is only $100 more than the HD600, what's your excuse for not owning an Electrochad ?
Stax is only more attainable if you buy used and some people just don't want to buy used gear.
Heck, I find the thought of using used headphones icky even with changing pads. I wouldn't mind buying used amps though.

>> No.64588038

>>64588025
That's what 500usd gets you

>> No.64588043

>>64587953
You don't need anything. Just turn your brain off anon.

Seriously, if you're willing to spend this kind of money on a headphone then you might as well get a decent amp as well. Get a dac later on if you care enough.

>> No.64588059

So, Scarlett 18i is enough for K712pro, right?
I don't need to buy anything else, right?

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>>64588043
I'm surprised people aren't more attuned to the budget amp/DAC combos on the market. I'm using this one (had to import to get a decent price) but it's an amazing piece of hardware for beginners and one of the most convenient things to use. Runs solely off of USB power, and can drive 600ohm impedance cans just fine.

>> No.64588079
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64588079

Are there any other amps like the Topping TP30 that can support speakers and have two inputs? I hear mixed reviews but the USB DAC and RCA switch would be really useful for my set up.

>> No.64588089

https://www.kopfhoerer.de/test/superlux-hd681-evo/

Superlux hd681 evo.

Just ordered for 29,95 euros.

Who can confirm the test?

>> No.64588120

>>64588033
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-STAX-SRS-3100-Ear-Speaker-System-201604-EMS-Speedpost-From-Japan-/173090165420?hash=item284cfa52ac
Brand new and clearly attainable if you can afford an HD600 + x Stack combo (~$500).
STAX are endgame tier, low-fi garbage like the HD600s are not.

>> No.64588129

>>64588072
>>64588079
What a coincidence. I guess I should mention I'd like to keep it under $150. Was did it cost when you imported?

>> No.64588136

>>64587856
Ah, okay, I was hoping there would be a database or list or something.

>> No.64588152

>>64588129
12300 yen shipped to the proxy warehouse, which is an absolute steal given people are still trying to sell these for $300-400 in the western market. I'm sure you can pick them up for cheap in Japanese markets still.

>> No.64588157

>>64588120
the price is intimidating to newfags because they just see $700 whereas they see $200-300 for the 600/650 and $200 for the stack. it doesn't matter that they'll probably end up spending more in the long run going the hd600 route

>> No.64588194

>>64588059
I need headphone amp as far as i understand. What kind of i can get if i'm planning to use it with 18i8?

>> No.64588195

>>64588152
Was it auction? It's 20,000 yen on Amazon which isn't bad but a little more than what I want to spend after proxy fees.

>> No.64588213

>>64588195
Secondhand website like Rakuten called Mercari, if you're using a good service (I use Japonica) they allow you to send offers. I used to use YJP almost exclusively but despite its good selection it's too unreliable and generally stressful to use. There are a lot of Japanese websites to explore outside of that.

>> No.64588232

>>64588120
$678 if you want to buy from ebay for something whose warranty is "in japan" and only one year of it and it's probably a major pain to deal with if there's any defect with the product and shipping is probably on you.
That same Stax combo is more like 1k € if bought locally here, but with our local 2 year warranties where the seller has full responsibility and has to refund you or replace the unit if it breaks and he can't repair it or if the manufacturer is unwilling to.

>> No.64588234

>budget
75-100
>location
USA
>source
my computer
>type
full size
>comfort
preferably more comfortable, in terms of desire, comfort > sound
>sound signature
don't care
>past headphones
cheap ipod headphones, some turtle beach headsets from years back

>> No.64588236

do I really need an amp with the hd6xx?

>> No.64588242

>>64588236
>need
No.
>worth having
Yes.

>> No.64588244

>>64588120
Meanwhile HD600 is 300 euros on thomann and if you aren't going for pure end game dynamic amping it does fine on a FiiO e10k.

>> No.64588252

>>64587101
>see new /hpg/ op anime footpussy pic
>unzip pants

>> No.64588259
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I've got an E10/E8 DAC/AMP and a pair of HD650's
Will I notice a difference if I listen to FLAC?

>> No.64588260

>>64588213
Thanks. Seems like there's nothing there now but I'll check it out later.

>> No.64588267

>>64588242
I still don't get if it will make them sound better overall or just louder (still need to receive the headphones).
what would be a cheap amp, considering that I am in europe

>> No.64588280

>>64588259
I mean e7/e9, my bad

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>>64588059
>>64588194

>> No.64588292

>>64588267
e10k can power the 6xx fine and it's a very cheap combo dac/amp available on most online european shops like your local amazon. The amp part is the weaker part of the combo, but it's still okay with the 6xx, just not enough with demanding planars and you can use it as a dac when you buy a new amp later.

>> No.64588300

>>64588267
Magni 3 and O2 are about as low as you can go w/o getting some chink PoS,
In Europe they're less cheap, but it's still where the value is.

>> No.64588312

>>64587803
HD650 have slightly more bass than HD600 and sound warmer, but HD600 is more neutral. Both are lacking in sub-bass, but HD600 is a bit worse in that regard.

>> No.64588313

>>64588300
FiiO has better QC than Schiit. JDS Labs is the best though.

>> No.64588335

>>64588259
It depends. Most transcodes if done from a lossless format will sound almost transparent.
Maybe some music could be deteriorated from lossy compression, but most of the times it sounds the same except for very specific frequencies (think of cymbals for example).
>>64588292
No, the E10k can't power the HD6x0 series as they should be and it'd be a waste of money when an O2 + onboard audio would sound the same and cost the same, while being better in the long run if added to a DAC.

>> No.64588356

>>64588335
Cool. I was thinking of changing my combo anyways since I got it for free when I bought the cans. The amp is ugly and I get this scratching noise whenever I change the volume on it. What's a good DAC/amp for them that'll run maybe I dunno somewhere under $200?

>> No.64588357

>>64588335
>No, the E10k can't power the HD6x0 series as they should be
Wrong. You haven't ever owned an E10K and compared it to a more powerful amp, have you? It powers the HD6xx fine. You're just parroting.

>> No.64588363

>>64588300
>>64588335
well the fiio is 70€, way cheaper
I can't even test the O2 to try myself if the higher price is actually worth

>> No.64588374

>>64588356
See >>64588072

>> No.64588380

>>64588234
anyone?

>> No.64588398

>>64588380
Just get ATH-m50s if you really don't care about sound/setup.

>> No.64588400

>>64588380
MDR-V6 if you really don't wanna break the bank

>> No.64588435

>>64588374
Seems to be over the budget quite a bit. What about the D1? I'm seeing good reviews for it

>> No.64588436

>>64588363
The guy who designed the O2 himself, NwAvGuy praised the E10K's predecessor and found it right at the limit where it could power just enough a HD650 (clipped when used at high gain at the highest volume levels, which you -really- shouldn't do if you care about your ears) but not more demanding cans. The E10K is better than the old E10 he reviewed and it does the job of powering the HD650 fine. Nothing noticeable in the sound and can power it to much louder levels than is safe for your ears.
As far as cheap starter combo dac/amp go it does a fine job to this day, now I'm using it as a dac behind a more powerful amp which I barely use in terms of potential because I'm always on low gain rather than mid and high gain..

>> No.64588451

>>64588435
I don't have experience with it, but I've seen it recommended in the past.

>> No.64588465

>>64588363
You could settle for an e10k, but a Magni3 or O2 would be endgame, that is, the last amp you'll need. So it might be worth using a little more financial muscle, as you did with the headphones, getting HD600/650/6xx rather than settling for some mid-fi garbage.

>> No.64588480
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Are Stax worth it if I just listen to anime and v0 mp3s?

>> No.64588488

>>64588480
No
Even as an audiophile I say paying over $500 for headphones is fucking absurd

>> No.64588499

>>64588465
The E10K dac portion is fine. He could keep it as a dac when he upgrades to better amps. There is no need to buy an amp now, and if he ever wanted to buy an end game amp he would also want to buy a DAC if he didn't have the e10k.

>> No.64588500

>>64588488
What you mean is
>paying over exactly what I can afford for headphones is fucking absurd

>> No.64588504

>>64588488
You aren't a real audiophile if you aren't willing to spend the extra to get the best sounding sound you can hear

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>>64588504
>you can hear
>implying

>> No.64588513

>>64588436
>>64588465
thank you both, for now I plan to listen to the headphones first without an amp, then try a fiio and see how much is the difference (I can easily send it back) and then who knows

>> No.64588519

>>64588499
Doesn't have line-in, which is somewhat inconvenient. Does it have line-out? Headphone port isn't line-level...

>> No.64588532

>>64588488
I guess I was wondering if the quality of the encode is the limit and not the hardware such that HD600 or whatever would be able to offer peak performance. I'm probably going to bite the bullet and order an electrostatic setup just to see if my bank doesn't give me shit.

>> No.64588538

>>64588511
I'm deaf and I can hear the difference in the bullshit you're spewing

>> No.64588543
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64588543

Has anyone ever done any research on how different shapes of ears effect how music is perceived?

At every canjam I've been to white people are always going crazy over certain headphones (HD800, LCD 2, Focal shit, STAX memes etc) but I when I put them on they sound like absolute shit. I always notice they have these huge ugly ears that stick far out from their heads, maybe thats why?

>> No.64588553

>>64588532
>the quality of the encode is the limit
The mastering is, and FLAC is always recommended for your collection. The only reason to use lossy is traveling light, data-wise.
But lossy these days can be really good. Even with excellent equipment, people can't ABX opus at 160kbps.

>> No.64588554

>>64588513
My personal experience, having bought the E10k at first, then getting a K5 amp, and having tried the HD650 for lulz on a macbook pro headphone out :

The HD650 sounds fine on the macbook headphone out at lower volumes. It starts to distort at higher than 70%. 70% is enough volume for fun loud listening of modern recordings like pop, metal or whatever. It's not quite enough for classical, or watching a movie on your computer.
The e10k can power it cleanly to levels that go beyond safe listening. I only used the e10k high gain mode to watch movies.
The K5 is always on low gain for music listening and mid gain for movies. I don't use its high gain mode at all. It's probably only ever useful for very demanding planar headphones.

>> No.64588588

>>64588543
yes, there's tons since the 40ies or so.
the HRTF is one of the major problems in headphone design, binauralization and everything that comes with it

>> No.64588603

>>64588519
E10k has line out. I don't care for line in.

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>> No.64588622

>>64588554
>It's not quite enough for classical, or watching a movie on your computer.
I am not into classical at the moment but I often use the headphones at night to watch movies and whatever.
So the K5 is overkill for the power needed by the hd650/6xx? My main problem with magni or o2 is not really money but it's vat and custom fees, fucking scammers.

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>> No.64588657

>>64588622
It's a bit overkill, but all those three big amps are. They are amps that can power far more demanding headphones than the HD650. With that said, there's something nice about having a bigger knob and a sturdy 6.3mm front jack which won't break no matter how often you use different headphones on it.

>> No.64588669
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>>64588622
>custom fees
http://www.schiit.com/places/distributors

>> No.64588691

>>64588553
>The mastering is
Thank you; that's good to know. Now I don't feel too bad about my massive v0 collection. I've only ever downloaded flac when it was the only option available since I need to save space for the anime I hoard.

>> No.64588724

>>64588657
thank you again, actually I have a scarlett something so I think I know that feel
>>64588669
well, a magni 3 is 99$ on their website and 130€ from a local distributor. anyway I'll look into it, thanks

>> No.64588739

>>64588691
>for the anime I hoard
Hoarding (lossless) music is way more recommended than anime. Anime's trivial to find and there's a load of people like you who hoard it, so there's no point to doing it.
Music, on the other hand, can be a pita. Even the OSTs for these same anime.

>> No.64588771

>>64588724
European countries usually include VAT in their public prices. US show the price without the state sales taxes. 130 euros is only 10 euros more expensive than 99 + the 20% VAT we have in my country for example.

>> No.64588820

>>64588771
yeah I know that. anyway, that's more then half the price of the headphones. is that normal for this kind of things?

>> No.64588888

>>64588072
In an idea world I'd like a dac+amp in one box it hasn't worked that way for me. The main reason is that currently I have the magni 3, and that's better than any other small/entry amp out there so I need a separate dac to go with it. In the future I'll probably get an expensive 2 in 1 just fo the sake of it.

>> No.64588893

I want to try the open headphone experience, but where I live the HD600 are hella expensive. On the other hand, the DT880 are way cheaper here than the HD600s, they cost less than the half. will the DT880 be a better option for what I'm looking for considering the price difference or should I stop being a poorfag and get the HD600?

>> No.64588897

>>64588820
The HD6xx are cheaper than the regular cost of the HD6 line. I paid 330 euros for my HD650 and it was one of the lowest price points it had reached on the local amazon. E10k cost 86 euros here so that's less than a third of the price of the phones rather than half.

Needing a 100 to 140 euros amp for headphones that cost more than 300 euros like all those higher end planars and stuff is quite normal.

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comfy setup right here boys. i think i should've used a cable witha right angle and straight connector

>> No.64588908

I finally got a pair of ath-m50 for five bucks. With Dolby Atmos and Viper4android itsa nice

>> No.64588920

>>64588072
>Runs solely off of USB power,
That's the problem.
>and can drive 600ohm impedance cans just fine
No it can't. This thing can output 100mW @ 32 Ohm. That's fucking nothing. You will not power any decent headphones out of this.

In general, in regards to audio related things, number 1 thing to avoid is USB powered devices. This applies to both DACs and AMPs. Especially AMPs since you will never get any decent amount of power out of 5V.

>> No.64588930

>>64588893
You haven't said what music you listen to the most. In my opinion people who like electronic music will be very disappointed in the bass of a HD600, while only slightly disappointed by the bass of the DT880 and find it easier to become used to it.
If you like mostly acoustic stuff the HD600 is more natural than the DT though.

They're both about equal in terms of level of detail and capability. The HD600 just sounds more natural, but has a very, very weak bass with too extreme of a rolloff. AKG 702 suffers the same problem.

>> No.64588934

>>64588900
Hey, what is that? Bluetooth?

>> No.64588944

>>64588888
Yeah, the HP-A3 is a really amazing budget machine that performs way above its price point, but it's not going to serve the purpose of the more specialized components.
>>64588920
Have you used it before? I'm using 600 ohm DT880s and I can blast my ears off at 75%.

>> No.64588974

>>64588920
>This thing can output 100mW @ 32 Ohm.
Wow, that's actually twice weaker than the E10k. As expected of overpriced amps made by an headphone manufacturer. If there's beyer, sennheiser or fostex stamped on an amp it's obviously made to grab your money.

>> No.64588983

>>64588944
>HP-A3 is a really amazing budget machine
Twice weaker output power than a 85 euros dac/amp. Amazing budget machine my ass.

>> No.64588987

>>64588934
FiiO BTR1 Bluetooth Headphone Amplifier

>> No.64589001

>>64588934
yes

>> No.64589009

>>64588944
>Have you used it before? I'm using 600 ohm DT880s and I can blast my ears off at 75%.
No I haven't and I'm not going to. I can see according to manufacturer specification that this thing is weak as shit, and in fact I don't even need to look at manufacturers specification to know why USB powered AMP is not a good idea.
My current AMP, which is by the way pretty weak, outputs 1,2W @ 32 Ohm. If you think this is good enough then good for you.

>> No.64589014

>>64588944
Not the guy your'e talking to but it's not about volume. Most amps can blast the volume loud enough, but it's about maintaining quality at certain volumes. You typically don't know better until you hear better. like most things.

>> No.64589023

>>64588900
oh boy is this the new meme

>> No.64589081

>>64589014
>it's about maintaining quality at certain volumes. You typically don't know better until you hear better. like most things.
No it's very obvious when shit happens. HD650 sounds okay up till 70% on macbook pro out for example, but once you crank it past that and make it louder, you can feel the distortion as if it was a $10 walmart electronics aisle headphone.

My current amp is 1.5W into 32 ohm and I don't notice notable differences from the e10k which is 200mW into 32 ohm on the HD650.

>> No.64589082

>>64589014
>>64589009
The sound is controlled extremely well at high volumes. I'm listening to relatively complex music with the volume on high without noticing anything different--though you can dismiss it as confirmation bias if you want to. I was putting it forward as a budget combo anyway. I doubt beginners will be driving 600ohm headphones.
>>64588983
That's almost the same price as I got it for, bud

>> No.64589083

>>64588930
I listen to pretty much any genre, it depends on the day and my mood, but your answer guide me to what will be the best for me, I think I'll be better with the DT880 since I like feeling the bass , not as extremely as a bass head but it must be present, and since I'm coming from a DT770. Thanks anon-kun.

>> No.64589102

>>64589082
> That's almost the same price as I got it for, bud

Well, when I checked the price here, the Fostex HP-A3 is 300 euros. That's absolutely a complete utter ripoff for something that performs worse than the E10K.

>> No.64589113

>>64589102
>performs worse
Again, the statistics aren't everything. You don't know how a headphone performs just from frequency response graphs. Earlier in the thread I mentioned I bought for 12300 yen.

>> No.64589130

>>64588234
>>64588380

Takstar Pro82 for closed
SHP9500S for open

Both incredibly comfy

>> No.64589136

>>64589082
Fuck, at 90 Euros that is actually a good deal. How did you get it this cheap?

>>64589102
This thing has much better connectivity options than e10k, I would honestly consider it for it alone.

>> No.64589154

>>64589113
What are you talking about retard? Frequency response, what? We're talking about amping power. Watts. This is an entirely objective field and has nothing to do with your little sentiments. If something doesn't have power it doesn't have power.

>> No.64589173

>>64589136
See >>64588213
I usually import other shit pretty regularly, so it went in my big box
>>64589154
So you're saying you should always buy the amp that outputs the most power, regardless of any other possible configurations or hardware. Don't reply to me ever again.

>> No.64589189

>>64589136
>This thing has much better connectivity options than e10k, I would honestly consider it for it alone.
300 euros is more than you need to buy an O2 + ODAC stack. If you're going to spend more than the measly 85 euros of an e10k it should be on a good stack not on something that performs worse than the e10k.

>> No.64589203

>>64589173
Audiophool easily parted with his money. I wouldn't miss you dear, unless you were willing to buy some homemade $4000 cables for your headphones. I'm totally willing to sell that along with audiophile rocks.

>> No.64589216

>>64588234
>>64589130
Also forgot to mention that the SHP9500S can be had for $55 currently on Newegg and the Takstar Pro82 is usually cheaper on Aliexpress.

>> No.64589219

@64589203
I have spent perhaps $300 in total on audio equipment in the past 5 years, I stick with what works for me until it breaks. Keep on being you, but don't hand me any more (You)s

>> No.64589230

>>64588900
how's the noise level / static / whatever it's called? i've got myself a MPOW bluetooth something something reciever and it's terrible when volume is set to low

>> No.64589232

>>64589189
And I agree with you on this one, I am one of the people who called him out on this thing being ridiculously underpowered.
The thing is, there is very few DAC/AMPs out there that can output to both headphones and RCA outs, and have some kind of switch dedicated for that. Those that can do that pretty expensive. One example is The Element, priced at $350. O2+ODAC can't do that.
This thing is for sure not worth 300 Euros, but at 90 that's a different talk.

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Is it worth upgrading from Audeze LCD-X to some sort of Stax like 007 or 009?

>> No.64589262

>>64589232
If AIO isn't important, a simple Y splitter will allow for multiple DAC outs.
>>64589246
LCD-2 -> SR-303 was a huge upgrade for me, if that helps.

>> No.64589281

>>64589262
What are you using to power the SR-303?

>> No.64589282

>>64589281
SRM 313

>> No.64589296

>>64589232
The element is rather nice to be honest. The price markup is not huge for something of its performance and its very sleek design, knob and extra functionality can deal the deal. It's not comparable to something that's basically the old e10 with a switch for the line out and a rather average design.

>> No.64589307

>>64589262
and a huge downgrade in bass response and impact

>> No.64589324

>>64589307
Nope.

>> No.64589328

>>64589324
yes

>> No.64589336

>>64589328
You don't own headphones, I own both.

>> No.64589337

>>64589296
I bet it is, but it's also $430 in Europe.

>> No.64589371

>>64589336
I've heard many stax, the detail retrieval is incredible but they have limp dick bass response. The LCD-2 isnt a particularly detailed headphone to begin with so ofcourse its going to sound like an upgrade here nuances and shit in the recordings you havent heard before. When it comes to sound its personal preference, some people like the laid back sound signature of the LCD-2. Either way one things for sure the bass response on stax is sub par when compared to planars.

>> No.64589375

My HD 600s dropped from waist height on to my wooden floor, now my left cup is really rigid and squeaky, and depending on how the cup is angled audio micro stutters randomly.

Is this possible to fix myself or do I need to RMA?

>> No.64589382

>>64589371
That's a lot of opinion from someone who doesn't own headphones.

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>>64588532
>I'm probably going to bite the bullet and order an electrostatic setup just to see if my bank doesn't give me shit.
I like you anon, I welcome you to the STAX club if you choose to do so

>> No.64589386

>>64589382
I own HD800s he500 and th x00.

>> No.64589398

>>64589375
Look up disassembly guides on the internet for starters. HD600 are easy to take apart and every element is replaceable.
But if it's broken beyond fixing then first try RMA before you blow money on parts.

>> No.64589415

>>64589337
Everything is more dollars in Europe though. Schiit or o2/odac or oldac stack are a bit more expensive. And people often sell stuff as if it was 1 euros = 1 dollar. On a french retailer website the element is 380 euros.
o2 is 150 euros and odac 140. That gives the element a 90 euros markup to get an all-in-one device, with a very sleek look, large knob, and that switch. Not an uncommon markup to get an improvement in niceties that goes beyond raw performance.

>> No.64589421

>>64589371
>I've heard many stax, the detail retrieval is incredible but they have limp dick bass response.
just +5db bass boost them. or have you never touched an EQ in your life?

>> No.64589425

>>64589385
>>>/mlp/

>> No.64589426

>>64589386
Prove it. Either way, your statement is objectively wrong, since STAX have linear bass when sealed properly and subjectively wrong because I own a pair and I much prefer the bass response on the STAX (with a +5dB EQ for my personal preference) and do not find it "limp dick" at all.

It's incredibly clean bass with almost zero distortion so I can understand why you miss the "impact" (which is really just bass distortion).

>> No.64589437

>>64589425
are you trying to say I'm dipole? where is that guy anyways. I miss him. oh by the way post pictures of your setup NHA

>> No.64589441

>>64589421
In my experience not all headphones respond to eq as well as others. I'm not sure what EQing stax is like as i've never owned a pair only heard. I guess I need to buy some to try out. What would you recommend?

>> No.64589450

>>64589441
>What would you recommend?
have you been in a cave the past few days and missed all the shitposting about the L300LE? L700 drivers in the L300, aka it's an L700 for 50% off

https://www.staxaudio.com/earspeaker/sr-l300limited

>> No.64589452

>>64589375
Changing the cup yourself is easy from bought replacement parts, but the stutters are probably due to damaged solder so if you're not nimble with a soldering iron you probably need to pay for repairs. That might cost a little too close to buying a used HD600 which you could clean up and replace its pads with yours.

>> No.64589457

>>64589398
I've looked, will it void any standing warranty to mess around with them? would the stuttering issue i described be due to the springs?

>> No.64589468

>>64589450
For fucks sake, more shit to spend my money on. Guess the OLED TV will have to wait.

>> No.64589472

>>64589457
Warranty is void the moment there is user-caused damage to the hardware such as a drop. Repairing it yourself won't void the warranty, it was already void the moment you broke it.

>> No.64589473

>>64589437
Pretty sure Dipole left because this place became a circle-jerking joke with as much groupthink as reddit. If he is still around, he probably just lurks for a chuckle every now and then. I miss him as well.

>> No.64589479

>>64589385
That's a qt pony.

>> No.64589489

Bowers & Wilkins P9 vs denon 7200?

>> No.64589490

>>64589452
Definitely wouldn't be comfortable soldering them. Where could I take them for paid repair? There's countless chink phone repair stores in my city but I've never seen Hi Fi repairs

>> No.64589492

>>64589468
that's why there has been so much STAX hype my friend. somewhere between 4-6 of us have bought one, I lost count
>>64589473
I hope he comes back and sees that we all have stax. that would be quite the shocker

>> No.64589493

>>64589473
I think the average IQ in these threads went up by 10 or 20 after he left. What a tragedy.

>> No.64589502

>>64589468
lol OLED tvs. Have fun with your $4k tv burn in a couple years from now and broken color rendition (even when you don't notice significant burn-in, the uneven aging of the leds will cause an inability to show colors properly, not amount of calibration can fix it)

>> No.64589508

>>64589437
What I'm trying to say is that you've posted an mlp pic.

>> No.64589510

>>64589502
you are too poor to even own a headphone much less an OLED

>> No.64589514

>>64589415
>On a french retailer website the element is 380 euros.
Yeah, I know, That's also the price it goes for on german retailer, that's around $430. I actually literally converted the price from EUR to USD, but ordering it from USA wold more or less end up being the same price with all taxes and shipping costs.

>o2 is 150 euros and odac 140
O2+ODAC (combo unit) is actually 250 EUR from head n hifi, and it's a maxed out unit with RCA outputs, 6,3 Jack, and power input on the back. It's a very decent deal, with only downside being that you have to unplug headphones for RCA ports to be active, which is a shit fucking design if you ask me.

And yes, obviously everything will be more expensive in EU with it's 20% tax on everything, my point was just that it's somewhat less affordable to buy something like The Element for people from EU than it is for Americans.

>> No.64589515

>>64589493
>t. NHA

>> No.64589519

>>64589508
I just had it in my hearts folder, not that I care I'm not prejudiced against horse fuckers

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>>64589502
You will have to replace TVs as soon as those supporting 100% Rec 2020 start to become available.
So why not get something nice in the meantime?

>> No.64589564

>>64589492
How would it be a shocker? Someone managed to meme everyone into buying another FOTM, which everyone will praise as "The best headphone ever made with a ruler-flat response" and shout down anyone who dares to disagree. Also, the goalpost of "the price limit of diminishing returns" will be raised to what everyone paid for their Stax and energizers.
>>64589493
Glad that you can help contribute to our healthy, non-stagnant environment.

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Post your headphone stand

(this one made me exceptionally nervous)

>> No.64589603

>>64589564
>Also, the goalpost of "the price limit of diminishing returns" will be raised to what everyone paid for their Stax and energizers.
that literally is the point of diminishing returns though: stax

>> No.64589604

>>64589230
bump

>> No.64589624

>>64589564
>Also, the goalpost of "the price limit of diminishing returns" will be raised to what everyone paid for their Stax and energizers.
You vastly overestimate the importance of a few hpg posters. The goalpost isn't likely to move much from the one set by the meme hd600 posters, which are every-fucking-where on the internet.

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>>64589603

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>>64589587
Why not?

>> No.64589660

>>64589624
ignoring the randoms, /hpg/ is what? 40? 50? 10 people buy/own stax and that's already 1/4 of the people here. the days are numbered for hd600 soybois

>> No.64589670

>>64589564
This general was always a shithole though. Now it's Stax, before we had ma900 and HD600 spammers. And obviously NHA shitposter. I lost count of how many times I added /hpg/ to my filter only to uncheck it after few weeks.
I think we should petition to gook moot to get this general purged from /g/ for the sake of our mental health, but NHA would probably kill himself if that ever happens.

>> No.64589686

>>64589230
its pretty good actually. i don't hear any static at low levels.

>> No.64589695

>>64589564
At that point, we'd be setting the limit of diminishing returns to $1500-$2000 which isn't an unreasonable estimate by any standard.

>> No.64589698

electrostatic headphones are veblen goods, people only buy them to show off on the internet.

>> No.64589699

>>64589670
It's a shithole, but it's not hurting anyone. Everyone who can think for themselves isn't affected by the spam, and everyone who gets meme'd without doing their own research probably deserves it. Anyone who takes this place seriously as a sole place of reliable information is an idiot.

>> No.64589709

>>64589670
The general is nowhere near as much of a shithole as reddit's /r/headphones or headfi. SBAF is sennheiser central.
We can do with a couple shitposters here. At least hpg isn't used to peddle snake oil too much.

>> No.64589711

>>64589695
B-b-but that's audiophool and snake oil prices! HOW can that possibly be the point of diminishing returns?

>> No.64589753

>>64589686
cool, have you tested any other bluetooth recievers? also, have you tried it with in-ear buds? MPOW is somewhat bearable on volume > 20% and bigger headphones, with cheapo iems i can hear static even at 40% (it's okay with any other audio source)

>> No.64589791

>>64589587
Anything other than this type is fucking retarded. Why use two hands to grab your headphone? this style also looks way better.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jokitech-Sennheiser-Audio-Technica-Headphones-SpaceGrey/dp/B01MY55X96/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1517706860&sr=8-18-spons&keywords=headphone+stand&psc=1

>> No.64589808

>>64589216
Not the original poster, but just bought those shp9500s because of this post. $55 seems like a steal when Amazon has them for $76. Don't even need them right now, but might soon because my 558s have been having some driver issues.

>> No.64589846

>>64589808
>my 558s have been having some driver issues.
Probably just the cable that's doing it. Are you sure it's the drivers themselves?

>> No.64589951

>>64589753
i've used my shangling m2s as bluetooth receiver with iems. i suppose that counts. i think m2s a bit better.
i usually have the volume at 3 or 4 steps on my iphone with iems( um pro 10s, kz zs6s anda random pair of earbuds i have.) and i dont hear any static

>> No.64589958

>>64589791
that's going to leave an indent on headband padding

>> No.64589960
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64589960

>>64589587
It wasn't a cheap stand, but it's all aluminum and I love the aesthetics. Plus I've never dropped my headphones because of it.

>> No.64589981

>>64589489

>> No.64589984

>>64589846
Its only the right headphone and no sound was coming out. It's working now, it happened when I first started using them this morning but it eventually subsided. I recently did the whole foam mod to them, so I might have fucked something up when doing that. Also had them for around ~5 years at this point.

>> No.64590017
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64590017

>>64589587
Living in a college dorm room right now. Living on the edge

>> No.64590063

>>64589981
Trash overpriced fashion brand vs company that uses some of the most advanced dynamic drivers on the market made by fostex. Still wondering which to buy?

>> No.64590070

>>64590063
>Still wondering which to buy?
Stax of course

>> No.64590104
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64590104

Another disappointing planar. These were the second nicest looking of the bunch too.

https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/advanced-alpha-over-ear-open-planar-magnetic-headphones

>> No.64590105

>>64589984
Either it's just the cable, or perhaps a wire inside that just needs to be re-soldered. I doubt your driver is "dying" or anything.

https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Replacement-Upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKBHKM/

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64590184

>>64590104
>https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/advanced-alpha-over-ear-open-planar-magnetic-headphones

Anything cheaper than a LCD classic is likely to suffer in some way. HiFiMan manages to sell good sounding planars by sacrificing build quality to hell.

>> No.64590206

>>64585895
>Schiit Saga
>saga shit
>sack of shit
Why is it always poop jokes with this awful company?

>> No.64590225

>>64590206
The company owner never grew up and his market is selling to adulescents who also never grew up, explaining the fanbase of reddit which is very intensely in love with schiit.

>> No.64590252

>>64590104
What was the nicest?

>> No.64590260

>>64590252
In my opinion, the acoustic research AR-H1

>> No.64590267

>>64589639
I hate to be that guy but audeze recommends not using an omega stand with their lcds because it will wear down the pads overtime and reduce the clamping force. both are important for the seal that audezes require

>> No.64590282

>>64590260
ar-h1 looks nice, but that's because it looks similar to a STAX. what you really want is obvious

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64590300

>>64590282

>> No.64590349
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64590349

>>64587101
What the fuck is that shit?

>> No.64590371

these are the best headphones
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54

i won't buy any others, it sounds the best to me

>> No.64590382

>>64590349
Bismarck

>> No.64590384
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64590384

>>64590371
>these are the best headphones
wrong

>> No.64590396

>>64590349
A mutant

>> No.64590503

>>64590371
wrong. these are the best headphones
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA1M9OJ/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w

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64590564

>>64590349
Feet come in all shapes.

>> No.64590582

>>64590349
chroma subsampling + standard jpeg suckage.

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64590596

>>64590564
Can you move the big and small toe separately from the mid group of three?
I can ^_^

>> No.64590617

>>64590596
not him but i can too

>> No.64590624

>>64590596
Can't do that, but I can wiggle my ears.

>> No.64590629

>>64590596
post your programming socks idol trash. it's about time. I've been waiting all this time

>> No.64590650

>>64590596
webm or didn't happen

>> No.64590757

>>64589473
Pretty much. After that post to Reddit it went down the tubes. I check every few days desu, hardly post anymore. I've been too busy helping my aunt and uncle prep for their move to Washington.

Also haven't touched my headphones either.

>> No.64590773
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64590773

comfy

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64590786

>>64590757
>dipole is back
are you gonna buy the L300LE friendo

>> No.64590792

>>64590757
Good to see you, hope everything is going well-to-decent for you. Some of us still creep about and try to give actual, personal advice among the memeposters. It is a losing battle, but still, we persist.
It may also warm the cockles of your heart to know that people have spoken fondly of ZMF since you've been gone.

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64590868

>>64590757
>Also haven't touched my headphones either.
If only if you bought proper HD600, instead of chinkfimans, you'd perhaps feel like actually using them.

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64590885

>>64590868
dipole comes back and immediately you find the need to chastise his hifiman, can you chill please

>> No.64590896

>retarded tripcuck comes back
>six million idiots already riding his cock
How do I get a following like this? Do I just have to misunderstand HRTF and act like a complete buffoon?

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64590897

>>64590885
Aww, such adorable kitties.
I'm going to sleep now. I just felt like having him feel welcome, in my awkward autistic way.

>> No.64590917

>>64590868
honestly I sold the he-400i because I hardly used them. If I'm using headphones, it's for gaming.

Because I'm not a soyboy headphone cuck I use real hifi equipment aka stereo speakers.

You wouldn't know the difference though, because you don't own headphones or speakers.

>> No.64590919

>>64590896
just don't a poorfag who refuses to post pictures of his headphones. oh wait you don't own any headphones

>> No.64590933

>>64590919
imagine being so pathetic you white knight for some fat virgin shitposter on the internet

>> No.64590935

>>64590868
one of these days, the sennheiser fangirls (who don't actually own them, because not even the trolls promoting them could bear to listen to something so limp)

>> No.64590940

>>64590917
wrong anon, idol trash was larping as NHA to fuck with you. you meant to direct towards >>64590896

>> No.64590943

>>64589587
Cute headphone stand.
>>64590885
DiPolar is a shitposter who deserves nothing less.

>> No.64590962

>>64590935
Shall be slain.

>> No.64590985
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64590985

Well /g/, you've successfully memed me. Hope you're happy.

>> No.64590993
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64590993

>>64590985
glad to have you with us

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64591006

>>64590917
Here I did instead increase (!) my amount of headphones. I got myself some ath-msr7gm, which turned out pretty well. Intend to use them at work, but still have them home.
>>64590897
Oh, last thing before I sleep. I've just seen this movie:
12 Angry Men (1957) 1080p BluRay x265 HEVC SUJAIDR.mkv
Was pretty good. I do recommend it.

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64591009

>>64590917
>Because I'm not a soyboy headphone cuck I use real hifi equipment aka stereo speakers.
Truth hath been spoken.
Headphones are meant for when you can't use speakers. Bothering relatives or your wife if you're not a foreveralone, bothering neighbors if you're a poorfag in a tiny apartment, or listening to music outside. These are all valid reasons to use headphones. If you do not fit these use cases go fucking sell all your things and buy monitor speakers.

>> No.64591023

>>64590985
On the one hand, you just got memed into spending over $700 by people on an anonymous image board. I say over $700 because you still have to get an amp for them.
On the other hand, you will likely really enjoy them.
It's up to you whether you made the right decision or not.

>> No.64591029

>>64591006
12 angry men is a wonderful film. Good night.

>> No.64591030

>>64591009
>Listening to my chinese music on Speakers
fuck no

>> No.64591035

>>64591009
speakers are inferior to earspeakers unless they use the same electrostatic technology.

>> No.64591046
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64591046

>>64591006
>msr7
Good.

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64591064

>Not buying some comfy speakers
plebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSSB02fgFh8

>> No.64591074

>>64591035
estats are very beamy and don't take well to dampening either. they are better for headphones unless you want to do a lot of room correction for a speaker that basically is sending an undampened response out of phase in the opposite direction

>> No.64591093

>>64591074
>not listening to music in an anechoic chamber the size of an aircraft hangar

>> No.64591134
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64591134

>>64590985
You're not the only one. *blush*

>> No.64591176
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64591176

>>64591023
Picked up a used amp for around 4 hundo. I've been looking at electrostats four a few months now. I wasn't too interested in the lower priced models but I definitely didn't want to spend over 1k on the headphones alone. Nervously looking forward to when everything arrives.

>> No.64591195

>>64591176
Which amp you get?

>> No.64591198

>>64591176
Well, I hope that you enjoy them.

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64591215

>>64591023
>you just got memed
it's the other way around anon. memes are merely a reflection of reality in its truest form. people aren't buying stax because of memes. memes are formed because stax are what people want to buy. stax are the truth

>> No.64591267
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64591267

What do you guys think about the HD600s + Schiit Stack? Did I get memed?

>> No.64591270

>>64590933
Imagine not owning headphones while posting on a headphone technology general ;)

>> No.64591275
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64591275

My HD 280 Sennheisers headband has been falling apart for years but tape kept it together. Now something has really broken and the adjustment slide isn't working right. Everything else is fine. There doesn't seem to be a lot of replacement parts for the full headband. Is it worth repairing & where do I get the parts? Otherwise I guess I'm shopping in the $100-200 headphone range.

>> No.64591285

>>64591267
Do you like electronic music? or triphop? or anything in the vein. I hope you don't.

>> No.64591294

>>64591275
Sennheiser closed cans are not worth investing more in fixing them.

>> No.64591302

>>64590917
hey, do you know if this:
>>64587266
is a good speaker amp?

>> No.64591310

>>64590985
you did order the energizer, right?

>> No.64591312

>>64591285

Why do you say that?

>> No.64591354

>>64591312
Because that bass has literally no body whatsoever. It's a dead limp carcass.

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64591396

>>64591294
Yeah I was afraid of that. Had these for almost a decade so I'm a bit attached. I guess these will be my backup headphones when I get a new pair of cans.

>> No.64591399

>>64591267
You bought the best headphones in the world, with well-balanced bass, midrange and treble response. Nothing is lacking on those headphones.

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64591431

>>64591399
no.

>> No.64591437

>>64591431
Shhh... You'll spoil anon's memeing

>> No.64591456

>>64591451 new thread

>> No.64591470

>>64591354
no.

>> No.64591493

>>64591267
Why doesn't the woman have a black eye? Where's the immersion?!

>> No.64591523

>>64591302
Vincent is a solid brand for the money.

>> No.64591524

>>64591399
Well except the subbass and the lack of it.

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64591544

>>64591524

>> No.64591558

>>64591544
That hill of mud is also an issue

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64591565

>>64591558

>> No.64591573

>>64591523
thanks

>> No.64591576

>owners of the virgin STAX are so bootyblasted by the chad HD600's superiority that they resort to fabricating lies about the HD600

>> No.64592927

>>64587101
What wires wouldyou buy for a budget replacement cable mod for Koss ksc75's, it'd have to be a bit lightweight because they are clip on.
This is my first soldering project, I'll buy a soldering kit and practice a bit first.
Do people normally just buy single wires and twist them or are there ready made lengths? I know it's a pretty vague question.
I was about to order another pair of the headphones and thought fuck this, lets see if I can fix the ones I have.
I can buy a soldering kit for half the price and gain some experience.

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