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/mkg/ - Overpriced Korean Customs Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Last thread >>63389422

>> No.63430994

Just asked on the last thread, doing it again for the new one. Relevant OP picture too.

Is there any seller on AliExpress where I can get a limited set of keycaps? I want some colorful thick PBT modifiers on Cherry profile for my TADA68. I like the stock keycaps, but they look a bit bland being all beige-ish/grey. The EnjoyPBT or NPKC CMYW sets are nice options which I'll probably go for if I can't find anything else, but I want something with more purple and blue tones instead of the yellow and green Fn and Shift. Finding the shorter 1.75u Shift is probably going to be a bit hard outside of that CMYW set I mentioned.

>> No.63431096

you mean like this

>> No.63431141

Yes, those are the modifiers I mentioned. I like everything except the yellow Shifts and green Fn. I guess it might be easier to just pick up that set and then hunt for those keys separately.

>> No.63431196

Best type of switch ergonomically?

>> No.63431211

Go die in a fire.

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>> No.63431232

You seem quite angry.

>> No.63431275

I don't think there's a right answer to this. Key switches are personal - everyone has their own preference based on how they type and what sort of functionality they're looking for.

>> No.63431312

I see this. I currently have a board with reds, which I like quite a bit. However, I have been interested in trying other switch types.
I figured there might be one that is better for your fingies than another, but I guess not.

>> No.63431339
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just get mx clears and move on
most of the switches available are genuinely trash and only exist so people can identify with a switch and shill it for free
kind of like i'm doing with clears, b-but it's different when i do it t-trust me

>> No.63431345

Unless you get something retarded like a 200g micro switch there is no such thing as an ergonomic switch. Now heavier switches do cause more fatigue, but these are on the factors of decagrams. You'll be fine with pretty much everything

>> No.63431375

Nah, it's really about how you feel when you type. Me for example, I'm a light typer, and I enjoy quickly clacking away on browns most of the time. Recently, I've switched to blues and I'm having a good time (minus some fatigue here and there.) Go to a store and try some different switches out, order one of those switch samplers, or just keep using reds if they're fine.

>> No.63432057

>order magicforce numpad on memedrop
>£20-25 or so
>it's out for delivery
>get a notice from my post office about customs
>like £4 customs
>fucking £8 "handling fee" added by the post office for all customs payments
>have to pay £12 to recieve my £20 meme
Then there's the fact that in the meantime there was another numpad with an extra F-row and PBT+POM doubleshots with non-retarded legends for about $6 more. Fuck's sake

>> No.63432058

10/10 I've been a 75% fag since 2012 when I got my noppoo. I'm also recently lusting after the SA caps but they're so hard to get. That's an insane board you've got there.

Just came by the post about how damn good cherry speed silvers are. I've owned keyboards with about 6 different switches and these are by far the best linear switch I've used and almost as good as gateron blues.

>> No.63432142

Thanks for the kind words anon, I love 75% as well, I genuinely believe it's the ultimate general purpose layout.

That SA set is Godspeed, waited near a year on the kit being produced, hung around the market to get the ISO child kit and I still need to finish sniffing about the the TSAFox set to finally be done with this (1u mods, far right column on correct profile).

Not an expensive board by any means, it's an R1 KBD75, have it built with lubed and broken in Invyr Panda switches (I'm a linear fag).

I'm halfway through getting stuff together for the next build, I have a Tina case, a plate and a dz60 pcb. Thinking of buying some zealios and throwing plum on the board. Don't know how i feel about 60% though, I'll probably give it to my gf once it's built

>> No.63432321

if you want cheap SA keycaps then get the filco ones for like 60 bucks

>> No.63432355

newshit here. What is this style of keycaps called? I've seen them on some ancient computing equipment

>> No.63432358

read the replies

>> No.63432360

It's SA profile


>> No.63432431

40% owners eternally btfo!!!!!

>> No.63432510
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fuck ortho

this gets my dick so hard

>> No.63432671
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honestly if my child bought this keyboard I will kick them in the ribs
>no shift but theres a capslock
>no numbers
>likely cost >$150
what can you even do with this keyboard? write an essay but every time you need a capital you toggle capslock on and off? you cant even play most games because no numbers

>> No.63432700
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You've never used a modifier on a keyboard? There's a function layer

>> No.63432726

i always use shift for capital letter and those that use caps locks for one letter are retarded the others that use it more than for 5 letters a sperking kids on the wrong board

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>hidden music mode in the default firmware (6:15ish)
holy shit i had no idea i could do this

>> No.63432886


I want a silent mechanical keyboard and without numpad (I want the mouse to be closer to the main keys). What should I buy?

>> No.63432900

matias qc 75%

>> No.63433014
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Are they any good? I was going to get an enjoypbt kana set for the noppoo in pic related since it has the correct size shift and I have a white space bar. I put the gray kana caps on it and it looked amazing except for the space.
I was also looking at the filco you mention or maxkey miami which I was going to put on a plum nano.

Same. I have a TKL but I have never needed any of the keys to the side of f12. And I hate that it makes my hands be further apart, I'm always readjusting the keyboard. The insanely smooth caps and nice switches keep me using the tkl.
The KBD is def. an expensive board. I thought my noppoo at $90 was expensive. KBD75 is probably worth it but I think I'd rather have topre.
Idk how you managed to wait a year for a set of keycaps. I don't know if I'll even be alive in a year, or housed, or have a computer. I pay for fucking DHL fast shipping on cheap chink shit im so impatient.
The Tina is nice. I was looking at one because I need a small and virtually silent keyboard for class but lost interest.

>> No.63433192

dude is that your keyboard? it's ridiculous, I love it. Why cant I just buy something like that? No I would have to suck some dick for the keycaps, then pay $150 for the aluminum, then import some botnet pcb from chinkland then learn to solder then put it together and hope i dont kill my cat with solder fumes.
Someone needs to just start massproducing actual nice boards

>> No.63433233

>Are they any good?
Well they are genuine SA keycaps made by the original creators Signature Plastics. But you won't find a 5.5 u space.
The only keycap sets I know that have a 5.5u space are XDA and DSA, but those are flat unlike SA

>> No.63433245

nah man it's not, it's a board i have on order in group buy status right now though

Here's the guys site

All you need are switches, a keycap set, and an iron. You could even go holtites to avoid soldering if you get the right kind

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Up to $100, the cheaper the better.
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Tactile, medium preferred
>Form factor
100%, I realized I just the numpad quite often.
>Previous/current keyboards
Pic related.
I don't want anything wireless.

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I would put them on the coolermaster and then put the caps that are on it right now on my magicforce. The filco is nice but in plain black and white it kind of looks like one of those kids keyboards with the huge letters. I think SA only looks good in at least two colors.
I'll keep it in mind for sure. I think I may just leave these on the coolermaster, buy a white alpha enjoypbt for the noppoo, put the black rainbow caps on my magicforce and then in the future, maybe when dolch maxkey is restocked put that on that the coolermaster and buy a plum for the gray caps.
Holy shit this fucking picture. I was going to do what I just described above but this has me sexually aroused. I would get it in cyan and then put a cyan gmk/enjoypbt set on it. Fuck it's so much money

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I'm going to transplant godspeed onto mine, went cyan too

its a lot of money, but the way i look at it, it's money that'll bring me a lot more joy than earning that money did

There's also this, if we're talking too expensive, $480


Looks lovely though

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pssshh that's small time. This numpad was close to 250 bucks

>> No.63433574

That's nice but it actually doesn't hold a candle to the one you linked last time. The caps he has there are nice though.
Do you have any GMK or enjoypbt keys? There is a gmk set on originitave for $150 that is gorgeous but enjoypbt is so much cheaper. Can't decide if the gmk is worth double the cost of enjoypbt.

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redpill me on KB Paradise

>> No.63433602

>premium ABS
If you have access to a sandblaster then go for it

>> No.63433623

chink shit

>> No.63433634

got both, i prefer gmk to enjoypbt but really they're both really good

i generally prefer abs to pbt, which i think is the opposite of most posters here

>> No.63433636

KBP V60 with matias QC

>> No.63433689

How does lubing work?
I want to replicate this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUFdgyYdxcI so I can type at full speed in class. Right now I use linear switches and type really lightly to make it the same loudness as membrane but lubed silent reds would let me type at full speed.

>> No.63433706

You don't
You get a silenced Topre instead

>> No.63433710

Pretty decent chinkshit

Reliable and with good prices. Although some people have had inconsistencies when buying keycap sets from them. They're decently well-known around here though - heck, they're the main source for tada68s - so it's not like they're random nobodies that will chink you out of your money and run.

Ducky One or Shine 6, assuming it's possible to get it in Mexico. Go for gateron browns.

>> No.63433731

you brush lube onto the moving parts of your switch, and smetimes on your springs, and stabs

i do it for feel and not noise

but really, get topre

>> No.63433736

This keyboard is like the HHKB and Planck had an autistic son

This is great

>> No.63433752

I'm thinking of buying an unicomp model M. Is it worth?

>> No.63433779

KBP is not KBD anon

>> No.63433882

>Doesn't like ergo layout
>Can't touchtype
I appreciate his honesty, but why do a review at all when he disqualify his opinion at the start of the video. Solid Zealio review tho.

>> No.63433950

Why dont you eurocucks start buying on stores that lie about package values? Thats why I always buy on aliexpress instead of massdrop/mechanicalkeyboards/amazon, chinks fill $10 - dragon dildo on a $200 keyboard and customs dont give a single fuck.

>> No.63433961

Ohhhh I'm a retard.

>> No.63434023

>has numpad
>no F*
waaaaat the fuck

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tiz not true!!

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>> No.63434347

wonder who is behind this keyboard

>> No.63434515

Cherry switches are garbage

>> No.63434537


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>> No.63434648

Because it was a fucking $25 memepad. I'm surprised they charged customs at all.

There's also the problem of the post office charging twice as much as fucking customs. Plus it's privately owned so it's not like I'm paying my dues to my country (not like I find taxes pleasing or moral but at least it's justifiable), I'm literally lining some jew executive's pockets.

>> No.63434668

interesting set anon, everything about it repulses me but i fuckin love it

>> No.63434728

What switches are on the bottom keyboard?

>> No.63434811

Teacher asked me to not type during lecture the other day, I was being an obnoxious ass for a while.

>> No.63434842

Self-made ergoclears.
So I guess technically still cherry parts, just only if you painstakingly modify each one. So cherry still a shit.

>> No.63434872

where is your model F, and wouldn't you already have your endgame by now? Or are those realforces as close as its gonna get

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Right here along with my Realforce Hipro that I'm currently cleaning.

Now that I think about it, the F could use some cleaning too.

>> No.63435316

Do you need to cut the steel plate to do an ansi mod to the Model F?

>> No.63435436

No. The plate has holes for every key position that has a working sensor on the PCB. If you want to change layouts you just have to move hammers and stabilizers around. You'll probably have to buy keys and stabilizers from Unicomp. Hammers are harder to get your hands on since model M hammers aren't compatible. If you end up with the same or less total keys then you'll be fine, but if you increase the total number of keys it can be an issue.

You can actually do pretty stupid things with the layout. Any of the multi-wide/multi-high keys can be split up, and any adjacent keys (vertical or horizontal) can be combined into one.

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>Repostan from last thread

Anyone here have experience with geekkeys? Are they just dyesubed gaterons? They seem high quality and the blank sets a fairly cheap.

>> No.63436370

Nice 92s, I believe I have the same grips

>> No.63436490

I don't really get why people recommend mx clears. The tactile bump is barely noticeable and they feel like a linear switch with some sand thrown in.

>> No.63436561

I don't know why people recommend any "tactile" cherry style switches

>> No.63436573

I think you're confusing them with browns.
Browns have a short and not very pronounced bump.
Clears have a bump that extends from the top to the actuation point (i.e. about halfway down). The only mainstream switch that's more tactile is Topre because the tactile bump goes almost all the way down.

>> No.63436618

Also topres aren't more tactile then clears

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What are the best PBT Keycaps under $75? The cheaper the better. Only requirements is a 1.75u right shift.

>> No.63436745

>Also topres aren't more tactile then clears
But they are. Look at some force curve graphs.
It may feel like less because a Topre has a longer bump, but it's more tactile.

>> No.63437045

no it isn't. Clears have a much bigger delta then topres

>> No.63437180
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No they don't. Clears peak at about 65g then go down to 50g after the bump.
Topres depend on the weighting, but it's a delta of 15g for 45gs and presumably more for 55g.

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don't be stupid anon

>> No.63437321

55g topre seems much more tactile to me. The tactile bump on clears almost disappears while typing fast but on topre you can still feel it.

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Which one is bigger? :^)

>> No.63437370

Are you retarded? do you even know what tactile means.

>> No.63437403

Yes, it means that it has a bump when compared to a linear switch. You could have a switch with a purely increasing force curve and it could still be tactile.

>> No.63437429

Ah tat makes sense. You're stupid since that's not what the definition of tactile is

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tell me anon, are you an only child?

>> No.63437468

The topre meme needs to stop, no-one cares that you use overpriced rubber cups from Japan

>> No.63437506

That's not how you measure tactility. Its the sudden change in force that makes a switch more tactile, not the total distance the force is exerted over. Its also the same reason why buckling springs are more tactile then both.

>> No.63437635

why use some thing with out +10 keys ?
math just becomes a nightmare

>> No.63437862

Protip: you don't have to do math after you graduate highschool.

>> No.63437948

protip: if you like science and you want a good life you need math for all of your life

>> No.63437965

I just use them on another layer

>> No.63437989
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>you suck at delta

pic real delta

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Do you like me

>> No.63438111

you should be shot for trying so hard

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Very happy with the vortex race 3 and dem blue switches.
Not too many not too few keys.
>b-but the pok3r is the real memeboard

As if I constantly think about key layouts and weird shortcuts when im used to one for 28 years, sure

>> No.63438245

so one of the keys in my ibm model m isnt activating unless i push down the key all the way, how should i fix it? the keyboard is boltmodded by the way.

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Forgot that delta is whole surface under graph. Is getting late. That other anon was way off.

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thank you

>> No.63438517

o my lol, actual leafs!!

>> No.63438887
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Are Unicomp Model Ms as good as the original Model M?
I've been thinking about buying one, owned an IBM Model M in the past, probably the best keyboard I've owned so far.
Are they just riding on the reputation of the old Model M or are they genuinely good?

>> No.63438922

FInally ! OF COURSE the numpad goes on the left, because the mouse is on the right !
Who the fuck ever decided to put the numpad on the right side ? Makes no sense.

>> No.63438960

They feel the same typing wise, they are just lower quality

>> No.63438991

what kb is this

>> No.63439063

typing experience, yes absolutely. But the surrounding plastic is not as hard or thick as the original model m

>> No.63439095

the overall quality is vastly lower but the typing experience is pretty much the same.

the quality is due to the fact that both the shell and the keycaps are much thinner compared to the original IBM models, so you get flex, different "clunk" sound, less weight, etc.

But since both old IBMS and new Unicomps are made from the same mold, nigger-rigging the two together shouldn't be that hard.

Unicomp wins the competiton for me because of one single reason.
It has a Super key, something that the original IBMs didn't have.
So If I were do buy one it'd definitely be the unicomp model because i've reliedon Super key for my window manager for the past 5 years

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Thanks anons, but is the lower quality (without using IBM Model M shells) noticeable? Would it genuinely impact the overall experience excluding typing? AKA Care, durability, longetivity, etc?
Right now I'm using a chinkboard that's got a solid steel plate running through the top of it and the bottom, about 5 pounds. Pic related.
Should I upgrade?

>> No.63439179

Sorry meant >>63439095.
t. >>63439164

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>> No.63439381

nah mate even unicomp keyboards should last you a lifetime. the switch design didn't change

>> No.63439414
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if you want to blow $400, you could get a Model F keyboard

>> No.63439422

Alright, seems I'll be getting one then.
Black or white?

>> No.63439461

I'd pick black. You're not getting the genuine IBM keyboard, so no reason to larp as one either. Black with gray keycaps looks slick as fuark

>> No.63439513

>doesnt have function keys or escape
what a complete waste of money

>> No.63439580

40 dollar keyboard
Bad idea or no?

>> No.63439678

>What are layers
A Model F is the single most solid and durable keyboard you can get. If I were looking for another keyboard I'd probably pick one up. My F122 is great but too big for my desk and too loud for work.

>> No.63439685

but still youre paying a shit ton of money for something that doesnt even have all the keys you need, and too youll have to press 2 keys to have the same result of pressing 1 key on a full sized keyboard

>> No.63439699

By that logic, we should just have 200-key keyboards so that you never have to use a key combo for anything.

>> No.63439764

I recently pulled a Model M out of my grandfather's attic and tested it

it seems that pressing one key, G, for example, will also register as a keypress for another character. and in notepad at least, backspace doesn't delete a character, it instead prints the time and date whenever it is pressed

is this a common issue for old model M keyboards? Could it be solved by opening it and cleaning it, or perhaps replacing the SDL cable?

>> No.63439765

damn id actually like one of those really, is it possible to make one?

>> No.63439780

Are there any good Bluetooth mech keyboards?

>> No.63439785

why dont you just get a wired one

>> No.63439809

It sounds like there are some shorts on the matrix. Open it up and clean the board.

>> No.63439847
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This is the best keyboard ever. It's flexible, waterproof, silent and soft... Why do you guys hate this kind of keyboards?

>> No.63439873

gr8 b8 m8

>> No.63439887

Post some black TKL inspiration? I don't know what to do with this thing. All the normal sets look bad because white/beige looks like shit with the black.

>> No.63439984

For anyone who ordered one of the model F remakes, how much was your shipping, and what country are you in?

>> No.63440137

Should I buy cherry red, black, brown, or blue? Found a sweet board for sale but those are the only options for switches and I don't think any of them are particularly good. Other companies do linear, clicky, and tactile all better than cherry but it's $65 for the board with good build quality in a layout I like, with a removable cable, single color backlighting that can be disabled, my preferred layout, and trash key caps.
Should I get it or go for a gateron board?

>> No.63440174

What are some good manufacturers? Don't really plan on buying right now but since its black friday, I figure I might as well keep on eye out in case of an actually good deal.

>> No.63440187

>Should I buy cherry red, black, brown, or blue?


>> No.63440216

Really depends what you want man. I like plum(niz)/noppoo the most. Their stuff is awesome. coolermaster, vortex, leopold, are all quality. Leopold seriously makes top tier boards at a fair price. You can get unique layouts with cherry switches for $100 and their new doubleshot pbt keycaps(will last longer than you) are gorgeous.
Vortex vibe, race3, and pok3r are all popular and pretty sweet.
If you want to save money do not discount chinese boards on aliexpress and ebay. Some of my favorite boards I got for like $40.

>> No.63440227

look up the differences between the switches and make a guess on what you would want. If its your first mechanical, I would suggest brown.
$65 is a pretty good price.

>> No.63440233

>I would suggest brown

Do NOT listen to this guy

>> No.63440297

One of my friends recommended Ducky Channel, your thoughts?

>> No.63440314

If you don't use Matias Click, you're a plebeian faggot.

>> No.63440364

I use blue Alps

>> No.63440390

Ducky is good, another top tier company for sure. What layout and switch do you want? Leopold just started selling a bunch of new boards in the US that I'm personally itching to buy right now, might be worth taking a look at.
I think leopold's new keycaps are nicer than ducky but ducky sells rgb boards if thats your thing.

>> No.63440394

I'm jealous actually.
>tfw no 70gf

>> No.63440428

Should I buy one? I've seen some 60% boards that have those switches and they seem pretty unique.

>> No.63440452

Should I lube my switches? What do I use to do it? Wd40?

>> No.63440464

Do NOT fall for the 60% meme. It is absolute SHIT.

I ordered one to try the Matias Clicks and it's a pain in the ass to get used to not having natural FKeys, arrows, home/end/ins/del/pgup/pgdown. I use all of these keys in gaming and/or programming, and 60% made it impossible for me to focus on coding because it kept slowing me down.

Yes, though, I recommend getting SOME board with Matias Click. It is a very pleasant switch. The tactility and the sound are top notch. The Matias Clicks are also smoother and more refined in touch and sound than White Fukka (Fuhua) ALPS clones.

Get a TKL or full KB with Matias Clicks. None of that "Quiet" fag shit.

>> No.63440488

Also, spring for one with decent caps. Even double shot ABS would be better than the cheaper caps that come with some of the TKL variants on mechanicalkeyboardsdotcom.

>> No.63440494

ANSI layout, and then unsure about switches. I'll mostly be using it for gaming so I figure either red or brown, and then just buy a whole other board for typing.
Also, definitely want backlight.

>> No.63440500

I'm in the market for a keyboard, but I'm a slow buyer and would like to watch youtuber reviews.

whats /mkg/'s recommended keyboard youtubers?

>> No.63440525
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>those stem marks

>> No.63440532
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ii busted out mym $100 gateronn keyboard just for you

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brbrown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quicck brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brownn fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brown nfox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
the quick brown fox jumpms over rthe lazy dog
the quick brown fox jumpms over the lazy dog
See that shiit? It's chattering so bad that Ii'm able to type my nenxt letter before the repeat even shows up.
picc related
fuck ccheap knock off switcches get rreal cherries

>> No.63440540

Better than those stupid symbols everyone else has on their keys

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>> No.63440612
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It's worse than it looks in that photo. This shows how bad it is a little better.

These are NPKC PBT blanks

>> No.63440631
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>hey, I will replace letters with ugly stem marks, I'm so cool

>> No.63440641

I don't thiink that looks good. It needs darker color keycaps. The contrast is too hiigh. It's like havivng black keycaps on a white keyboard.
k ey c h a t e rr

>> No.63440683
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Get a Dolch set or something similar then. Pebble & Peal sets look objectively great tho.

>> No.63440709


Anyone know keyboards similar in looks to the tada68 or saber68 ? I pretty much just care if it aesthetically looks like one of those, and has the option of either cherry mx brown or gateron brown. Other shit doesnt matter, thanks family.

>> No.63440734

Oh fuck that set right there is incredible. The cyan enter and escape are just perfect. Where can I buy that exact set? I would like those exact shades.

>> No.63440738

Why dont you just buy the tada?

>> No.63440741

originative co

>> No.63440769

>fuck ccheap knock off switcches get rreal cherries

Don't buy any cherry style switches

>> No.63440793



>> No.63440836

You wont find anything cheaper, tada is already cheap as fuck. Cheaper boards, like magicforce, will only come with that retarded "floating switch" design.

>> No.63440859


Okay fuck floating switch, ill stick with the tada68.

>> No.63440887

I added a $180 set to my cart, then a $150, then an $85 and then talked myself out of it because I could get two really nice keyboards for that.
I want to do it though. I can't believe they're so fucking expensive. I want the Sky Dolch set.
Thank you for the info man I had no idea this website existed. I was just looking at aliexpress for keycaps.

>> No.63440937

what's the difference between the 176 dollar gmk miami on originative co and the 30/50 dollar miami on massdrop/mk.com?

>> No.63440964
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why do people here hate floating keycaps so much? They look pretty decent imo.

>> No.63440969

Profile, thickness, surface texture, non-crappy legends, etc. Miami looks like shit on any price range though.

>> No.63441124

so im interested in trying out clicky alps or matias switches, what is the best way to get a full sized keyboard with them? should i buy an old one? should i buy a new one? or should i try to build one?

>> No.63441193

Just get blue alps

>> No.63441236
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Are the knockoff cherry profile caps that KDBFans sell any good?

>> No.63441246

Don't buy keycaps from KBDfans unless it's enjoyPBT

>> No.63441276
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What about NPKC? I honestly can't justify spending over 100$ CAD on keycaps.

>> No.63441280

I can get "white fukka(fuhua)", KSB-C White Alps, Black Fukka(fuhua), Matias quiet click, and matias click all on a kbparadise v60.
Which would be the best upgrade from gateron clickys?

>> No.63441322

Matias click, but I would get SKCM blue alps as they are much better than all of those switches, SKCM whites are also good if you want a cheaper option to blues.

>> No.63441324

I have two NPKC sets from them and they both feel really nice under my fingers. I don't have any complaints I guess. One of the sets is aged a bit now and feels even better than when it was new. The other is dyesub and is incredibly smooth and soft under your finger. For $40-50 I'm happy with them but at the same time I regret spending money on them when two sets could have got me enjoypbt or close to a gmk set.
If you want me to take pictures of anything or check for anything defect wise let me know.

>> No.63441336

NPKC is not bad

>> No.63441354

If you could take a pic of the bottom of one of the caps that would be helpful. I want to see how thicc they are.

>> No.63441402

so my g key is chattering on my ibm model m, how can i fix this?

>> No.63441454
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turns out you have to clean these things

>> No.63441461
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not like i have anything better to do on a saturday night

>> No.63441486

god bless anon. NPKC look to be about the same thickness as enjoypbt so that is definitely enticing considering they are often much cheaper.

>> No.63441509

yeah i like em man. you should check out mechanicalkeyboards.com keycap section they have a bunch of cool sets I was looking at.
i made a bad choice with the npkc sets I bought, they don't actually go well with anything so even though I have 5 sets of keycaps and 3 boards I don't like any of the combos

>> No.63441690

preferably below $130, before shipping
>Location (continent at least)
usa, new england
>Preferred switch type
cmx black
dont care
>Form factor
dont care

also how the fuck do i clean this well because my current dying board is disgusting and my feeble attempts at cleaning have only been marginally sucessful

>> No.63441768

Will do. Is there any way you could post a link to where you got both NPKC keysets from?

>> No.63441824

I got them from the kbdfans aliexpress store


weird how the urls dont say npkc but the listings do on my end I wonder if alieixpress is fucking with me because I search it alot

>> No.63441957

does someone have that one image /mkg/ guide thing?

>> No.63441993
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>> No.63442084

Has anyone heard of outemu ice switches? Are they recommendable? Specifically the light purple 62g ones

>> No.63442641

what is the most tactile switch out there?

>> No.63442854

Opinion on Cooler Master PBT?

>> No.63443551

Retarded here are iKBC keyboards any good? i'm looking to get into /mkg/ game, but i'm not sure what are the top brands.

>> No.63443735

What are the best DIY keyboard kits out there?
Seems like a fun project to build one myself.
Preferably something small and not overly expensive.

>> No.63444472

The switches in the video is the silent variant of cherry mx which has rubber parts molded into the slider thus taking away the loud clacking noise. Lubing will help a little but it won't make your regular switch quiet like this. You can buy QMK silencing clips, mx silent switches, or just as the other anons's said silenced topre if you want a quiet board.

>> No.63444558

This thread fucking sucks. No one answers any question, no one posts any sources. Fuck you all.

>> No.63444707

Tada68 kit. Kb is top tier, kit is even better.

>> No.63444739

If Topre Realforce RGB came out in a TKL/40-80% form factor I would get one, it seems really nice but I never use numpads and will never get another keyboard that has one.

>> No.63444987

>lives in shitty timezone

>> No.63445009

Those are called CMYK keycaps. You can buy in sets or individual here:



>> No.63445014

It's like wine, or any other hobby really: It's not about which one is the best and more about how many of them you have tried yourself. Try a decent enough amount, and you'll form a better opinion.

>> No.63445078

Filco minila.
TADA68 Pro.
HHKB Bluetooth (not the mod with Hasu's controller, because those don't have BTE, which sucks hard).

>> No.63445081

Yes but he's right

>> No.63445089

I'm actually interested in this. What is this set, and PBT or ABS?

>> No.63445125

Some said the Ice Purple is comparable to Zealio, but considering Outemu's scratchiness reputation, I'm not very convinced.

>> No.63445140

Well Topre did say that they have plan for just that next year, once the current Realforce v2 line is fully out.

>> No.63445174

Any good keycaps for nom standard keyboards? Like the razer or Corsair keyboards,

>Inb4 gaymer

I got it for free and quite like it so who cares

>> No.63445196

Yes their TKL are good, and their Poker 2 practically birthed that segment (while the Poker 3 now dominated that).
>top brands
Topre (HHKB, Realforce)
IBM Model F/M

>> No.63445447

You're making it sound like it was a bad thing lmao. I'd love more keys on a keyboard.

Look at how many XF86 keys there are
Instead of making them some cheap shiny slits like all media keyboards why not make them normal keys and just put them above the Function row?

I could even have a dedicated key for a terminal (XF86Terminal) instead of Super+Shift+Return.
And a dedicated key to launch DOSbox (XF86DOS)!
A dedicated key to open my ~/documents, a dedicated key to open spreadsheet software (XF86Excel), dedicated key to open a terminal with ncmemecccp (XF86Music) which would've been terribly convenient, dedicated key to turn on and off f.lux/redshift/sct software (XF86LightBulb), dedicated key for newsbeuter/newsboat (XF86News)

Fuck me I'd pay for that.

>> No.63445526

I'm looking to get an ErgoDox EZ. What does /mkg/ think of these?
Not sure if I should get blank caps or not. I'll get used to them quickly enough, right?

First time mech keyboard owner too, not sure if I should get MX browns or clears. I want to be able to rest my hands on the keys without worrying about presses, but also don't have super tired fingers after a day of work. Is that generally a concern with heavier switches?

>> No.63445536

Those look like cheaper versions of the EnjoyPBT CMYW set, so I just ordered those. Still, thanks for the links, ordering them individually is great.

>> No.63445554
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I bought the Viterbi pcb for this purpose. It hasn't arrived yet :<

>> No.63445586
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>> No.63445622

No. I am serious.

>> No.63445720

Get blank caps if you can touchtype. It's keeping track of symbols in the layers that's difficult. Actually don't get blank, that was a 2011 Das Keyboard fad.

>> No.63446151

Best place to get PBT Topre keycaps? Are the normal ones from elitekeyboards the best?

>> No.63446310

That one is a bit overkill since to reach many of those keys you have to extend your arm quite a bit.

But considering that a standard keyboard has 6 rows I don't think that putting 2-3 rows on top and two rows of keys on both sides (kind of like those old IBM terminal keyboards) would be unreasonable while greatly enhancing the usability of the keyboard.

>> No.63446340

how can I stop myself from hammering on the keys?

it's just so enjoyable to hear it go clack clack clack all loud and powerful

>> No.63446380

Its an enjoypbt set, pbt dyesub. Esc and enter are GMK abs doubleshot.

>> No.63446397

Heavier springs. But really, embrace it. I use 67g springs and I'm a hammerer like you, so satisfying

>> No.63446419


For real. A new HHKB keyset costs $40 from Amazon Japan by PFU themselves. The same keyset costs $78 from EliteKeyboards.

>> No.63446549

realize that clicky sound is really plasticy cheap sound. then buy model m

>> No.63446612
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My 150$ cherry clear board does exactly this all the time. Do not buy cherry its absolute garbage.

>> No.63446639

>the reassuring ping of a bronze plate


>> No.63446795

All conductive (Cherry- and Alps design) switches has chattering. It's the firmware that's supposed eliminate duplicate input. It's something wrong with either the firmware or pcb.

>> No.63446862

That's why capacitive switches like buckling springs and topre are the best, alps switches actually feel good to type on so they are excused.

>> No.63446868

Is it really necessary to lube a keyboard?

>> No.63446945

No, lubing is a reddit meme and it also dirties your keyboard. I'd say the things you can and should do are installing o-rings and putting foam inside the case. That's about it.

>> No.63446947

i don't know where to ask this, can someone recommend a cheap keyboard it doesn't need to be mechanical. I need to replace a shit keyboard asap

>> No.63446958

Should I buy a NiZ topre clone board? I want one but they do sound quite different from real topre

>> No.63447077

No, but all the best swithes and keyboards come prelubed. Zealio, MOD, and Matias are all prelubed.

>> No.63447168

they're normally done so badly that you're better off just relubing yourself

>> No.63447182

Just get any cheap keyboard

>> No.63447275
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>tfw got official pfu silencing mat for hhkb
>tfw got kbdfans topre o-rings for hhkb
>tfw got bke redux domes for hhkb
>tfw put some dampening material inside the bottom case
>tfw literally godtier keyboard

>> No.63447489
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>be in europ
>cant buy a realforce 87u 55g without it being overpriced

>> No.63447531

>elbow on desk
>finger in ear
>type w/ other hand

>> No.63447545

need mechanical keyboard but don't know which key switches to get. I am using lenovo sk-8825 right now and I like its keys. don't care of sound much but should be like some of the shitty dell keyboards.

>> No.63447556

hahaha what the fuck man a junk $3 a pop office supply keyboard doesn't do this.

I can't believe that people blow this kind of money on something that's this shit

>> No.63447581

so are topre elitists going to admit that topre clones are fine now that third-party domes are better than the original topre domes

>> No.63447605

I just got my first mechanical keyboard a few days ago, it's super awesome, best keyboard I ever had and it was only 79,90€ only con is that it's some gayming shit from fnatic I guess, but I don't really mind, feels very good to use it and I will get a nice sticker to put on the fucking fnatic logo.

>> No.63447619

size and budget?

>> No.63447636

this, it's the keyboard manufacturer's fault, not the switches themselves, if you have a problem with chattering you probably got some chinkshit or some amateur shit

>> No.63447698

You're talking about Topre purists, not elitists. Topre elitists are the people who go all "MUH TOPRE MUH TOPRE MUH HHKB MUH LEOPOLD MUH REALFORCE CHERRY/GATERON/KAILH FUCKING SUCKS REEEEEEEE".

Me? I give no fucks about whether my shit is made by PFU or somebody else as long as the quality is good. And to let you in on a secret, the BKE Redux domes aren't even an upgrade. It's more of a preference. Do you want a smooth tactile feedback that starts off strong and lessens along the way? Stick with stock domes. Do you want a sharp tactile feedback that starts off strong and lessens really quickly? Get the BKE Redux.

>> No.63447711

84 key
less than $100

>> No.63447787


>> No.63447832


>> No.63447834

Drevo Gramr. And spend the rest of the budget on nice keycaps.

>> No.63447868

What switches are those?

>> No.63447883

I have a noppoo choc mini and it keychattering horribly. Only buy a noppoo if it's one of the old cherry versions. Otherwise get plum they use noppoo's tooling but apparently not their shitty firmware.
Also fuck off my 75% layout buy a tkl normie scum fuck

>> No.63447888

topre clone
topre clone
topre clone
cherry mx

>> No.63447953

What switches? Black? Blue? Brown? Red?
Cherry MX what? This would be my first mechanical and I dont which switches to go for. Currently using lenovo SK8825.

>> No.63447981

What the fuck do people mean when they say a switch, or stem or whatever is scratchy? Because I've never felt something being scratchy.

>> No.63448004

You might be retarded

>> No.63448010

it's like your mom's pussy

>> No.63448023

They don't really know, they're just parroting and trying to be cool. They don't like cherries because they're popular. It's just like /hpg/ with the hd600 except the opposite.

>> No.63448065

It means that the inside of the housing and/or the slider have a rough textured surface

Only really noticeable on old but not vintage or worn Cherry linears, For example, I have a Filco Minila Air with reds and it's been scratch city fresh out of the box and sucks to use. Gonna have to open it up one day and replace the switches with some worn-smooth blacks I have.

>> No.63448111

Is there any TKL kits that support Alps switches?

>> No.63448135


>> No.63448140

Has anyone here tried using an IBM MODEL M in conjunction with an android smartphone by usage of adapters? What's it like?

>> No.63448161

Ok, what TKL kits support alps switches?

>> No.63448214

Is there a reason why you guys tend to stay away from ones with 10 key ?

>> No.63448227
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>post exactly how the op says to
>no replies in 12 hours
>guy posts "gib board lol"
>gets a reply in 5 minutes

>> No.63448244

too bulky, gets in the way of the mouse

>> No.63448251

Do you mean TKL? Having less keys than a TKL is a reddit meme.

>> No.63448255

>because they want more deskspace for the mouse
>because they find it easier to use the numrow or a function layer
>because they do find a numpad easier, but use it rarely enough for no numpad or a separate numpad to be fine
>because they think compact keyboards look better
Pick any.

>> No.63448285

>because none of them does office work and has to calculate A3 sheets of monthly balances

>> No.63448299

Yes, that's a specific example of the third reason, well done you.

>> No.63448306

Just got my first ever mechanical keyboard, been using a more than 10 years old Dell keyboard until now. Nothing fancy like the amazing stuff you're all building but it's a start. Gotta I say I really love it.

>> No.63448330

Why would you purchase an IBM MODEL F (a terminal keyboard) when you could purchase something that looks almost the exact same and is designed for modern computers like http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40B5A sold by Unicomp?

>> No.63448348

Purchase the MODEL M from Unicomp and get the satisfaction of buying American

>> No.63448357

That's all personal preference.

Clears (strong tactile) is the most popular with circlejerk.
Brown (weak tactile) most popular with normies

Blue (weak clicky) consensus it's the best typing switch, but loud and not so good for gaming
Green (strong clicky) feels more like vintage keyboard, people complain they fatigue fingers

red (weak linear) gamer™, great for gaming, too light for anything else
black (strong linear) feels more like vintage keyboard, people complain they fatigue fingers

>> No.63448359

Bad bait

>> No.63448369

I'm not a /mech/faggot but even I know this kind of keyboard is fucking garbage. It feels like ass to type on.

>> No.63448519

Did you not check geekhack? they have a list of shit for diy alps kits

>> No.63448559
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So, after about 2 weeks and 18 euros, I finally got the plate correctly laser cut.

I believe the stabs I got are for PCB, but if read correctly somewhere, I can make them work on a plate. Any idea how? I can't see how to fit these fuckers without breaking shit.

The plate is of the standard 1.5mm thickness.

>> No.63448561

Friendly reminder that Gateron suck now, Kailh are just as smooth, less wobbly, have reduced actuation/travel and water-resistant options, cost only a little more while still being miles cheaper than Cherry and are just all around the best switch brand right now.

The only reason to ever get Gateron is if you're so poor the extra few cents per switch would bankrupt you.

>> No.63448562

i just typed this out, and it wiped my comment field but for some reason i'll do it again
etc etc
some are above your budget, but close enough

> also how the fuck do i clean this well
soak keycaps in soapy water, use q-tips, compressed air, a thin brush, or whatever else similar works for you for the shit that gets between the keys

>> No.63448594
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I'm all about the cheapest shit. Do you know where I can order switches for the most absolute jew price (gateron is fine, I just want the cheapest), from a site that isn't written in chinese?

>> No.63448622

They're squeaky/creaky for some reason, and it's fucking annoying.

>> No.63448627

>red (weak linear) gamer™, great for gaming, too light for anything else
>too light for anything else

What do you mean? Don't Reds work for anything?

>> No.63448653


20 cents each, shipping is $5 or free if you buy more than 200.

>> No.63448684

>MCU/Diodes + $25.00
What a ripp off!
AT90USB1286 cost ~3$ bulk
Diodes 100pc ~0.8$

>> No.63448734

That's because they assemble it for you dumb dumb. If you select bare PCB they don't and you can get it for 25 bucks then solder it yourself

>> No.63448736

Wow they actually ship to Europe. Nice.

>> No.63448743

Read my post again. 25 bucks is still way too high.

>> No.63448776

>$20/hr is way too high for soldering work
Do you live in a third world country where time is worthless or something

>> No.63448778

Then just get the PCB, no one is forcing you to buy their other shit.

>> No.63448779

pls help

>> No.63448797

In a normal plate you can clip the stabs to the PCB, then just slide it over, but since you custom cut it I don't know if you can do that.

>> No.63448801

it's a niche of a niche

why don't you sell your own kit a bit cheaper than theirs and get rich

>> No.63448812

Either go buy plate mount stabs or just hot glue those PCB ones in place from underneath

>> No.63448823

I used the plate builder to desgin it.


I chose "cherry stab only". I've seen videos of people installing the stabs, but it doesn't seem to work snapping it from the top,

on to aliexpress I go

>> No.63448828

Is there an actual list of diy alps kits? Can you post the link to it?

>> No.63448835

Too easy to bottom out makes it uncomfortable to type. I thought I could type lightly, but bottom out on every keypress.

>> No.63448845

you know where to buy cheap khail switches, i like to test those new box switches they look really cool

>> No.63448853

You cant, PCB and plate cherry stabs are different. Doest your PCB has the space to screw/clip the stab? If it does, just make the gap on the plate larger and fix the stab on your PCB. If it doenst, buy proper plate mounted cherry stabs.

>> No.63448896

It's gonna be hand wired. I'll just get the proper stabs. Thanks.

>> No.63448903
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Should I get 55g or BKE domes?

>> No.63448943

get a logitech k120 since its crispier and more tactile

>> No.63449041

k120= Trash

>> No.63449075

I'm (>>63447275).

Honestly BKE domes aren't worth it. I got them because everyone hyped them up but I prefer the smoother, linear feel of stock Topre domes. If you want to pay overprice for something that's extremely fucking tactile, go for it. But they're still not worth it imo.

>> No.63449079

I wouldn't be so sure on 60%. Personally I don't think that it is that hard to get used to, especially if the board is fully programmable, and it's not as completely inconvenient as a 40% or something. It's really just about how much you value size, and how much you need the extra space or the portability. A tkl is by no means large though so it's probably safer to go that route.

>> No.63449094

>>63449041 = Soyboy

>> No.63449135

The new redux ones are only $70 for 110 of them

>> No.63449136

>I ordered one to try the Matias Clicks and it's a pain in the ass to get used to not having natural FKeys, arrows, home/end/ins/del/pgup/pgdown. I use all of these keys in gaming and/or programming, and 60% made it impossible for me to focus on coding because it kept slowing me down.

What kind of fucking retarded gaming were you doing? MMOs play fine on a 60% keyboard and those require a metric fuckton of keys.

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Even 180$ is not expensive you're just too poor. You should work on getting a proper 100k usd/year job instead of wasting your time on keyboards.

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>not being a NEET

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""""only"""" $70

>> No.63449223

originative co is overpriced bay area hipster trash

>> No.63449229

They're cheaper than 55g topre domes that's why I said "only", I know they're overpriced.

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Which imo is overpriced for something that isn't a straight-up upgrade. Also the tooling on the BKE is straight up genuinely fucking awful. I admit they have a unique feel that I'm sure a lot of people really want and love. But they're not as good as they were hyped to be.

>> No.63449309

Is it? Can you find cheaper GMK sets? Where?

>> No.63449313

>You're making it sound like it was a bad thing lmao
It is a bad thing. The cost of having a huge keyboard is a loss in ergonomics (if any of the additional keys are to the right of the alphanumeric area) and having to reach further for keys.
The advantage of a 60% or smaller is that there's minimal hand movement. It's more efficient to press a modifier with your thumb and and alphanumeric key than it is to have to press some key a mile away.

>> No.63449317

>left is nipponese glorious rubber folded 1000 times

>right is disgusting shitty chinese waste folded only 1 time

>> No.63449338

It's called Group Buys

>> No.63449355

This is making me regret buying them

>> No.63449382

Yeah, but originative doesn't do group buys. If you want to BUY a set, instead of having to wait 8 months for it, there is no cheaper alternative.

>> No.63449417

logitech k120

>> No.63449432

Better yet the picture is from platabear himself: reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6yjk3q/update_bke_dome_group_buy/dmpbowi/

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>> No.63449450

Fuck, I'd sell my soul for a good french azerty keyboard.
I wish Varmilo made some.

Guys, please help me.

>> No.63449468

You can probably resell them if nothing else for close to the same price you bought them for. Or who knows, you might end up liking them.

>> No.63449496

That's probably because they're all silenced out of the box. The clones do also have a lot of 'shuff'ing sounds from the sliders though, it's not incredibly loud and isn't due to a lack of smoothness but it isn't really present on genuine topre boards. I have heard that the boards are quite loud if you take out the o-rings and might need some lube, but it will definitely get you closer to the typical topre sound with an upstroke clack.
I bought my plum 75 also partially for the sound and even though it isn't the same as the topre sound I still prefer it over mx style switches and it is good if you want something quiet. The difference in feel is probably a larger problem, but there are the bke domes to fix that now.

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t'es francais, t'as aucune chose qui ressemble une ame

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>> No.63449525

Turns out the pic is of the real BKE domes, I can't even imagine what the keyclack domes look like.

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>> No.63449540

where can i get a full sized pcb compatible with matias switches?

>> No.63449576

Wait shit, really? Haha that's fucking hilarious actually if true. If I had any spares laying around I'd cut one open myself to see for sure but I threw them all away when I was done.

>> No.63449643

Why don't you just buy the matias keyboard at that point?

>> No.63449650

well whats a good one to buy then?

>> No.63449655

>minimum $70 for this piece of shit

I see that Reddit memes are on point again.

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>> No.63449765

that's all fine but i don't know what strong tactile actually feels. all i know is what a rubberdome feels like
pls help

>> No.63449774

all of them

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Yeah it's from a geekhack thread from 2016, this is a real pic and they do look like shit.

>> No.63449797

Does not sell standalone keycaps. Enjoy paying $350 for their shitty plateless keyboard.

>> No.63449950

Have any of you used landing pads to silence topre? Are they any good?

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>> No.63450565

We'll memed. Le Upvote for you, good sir.

>> No.63450724

>[IN STOCK] GMK IRIS - $176.00
>[IN STOCK] GMK CYAN - $168.00

>GMK Classic Retro - $169.00
>GMK Blue Alert - $149.00
>GMK Yuri - $180.00
>GMK Demonic $139.00

I dont see the difference. Weren't you supposed to prove originative is overpriced? Well, every GMK set on zfrontier that is not on group-buy stage has the same price or is even more expensive than the ones on originative.

>> No.63450754

God bless anon.

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Want another example? These are the GMK sets on keyclack, same price range.

Thats what you pay for something readily available.

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>looks at gmk
you're supposed to buy jtk

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Originative also sells JTK, derp, same price range. This wasn't what we were discussing.

They cant compare tho, surface texture is very different, and JTK has tons os legend issues. Dont get me wrong, I do have two JTK sets that I really like, specially for how much I paid. GMK is still way better.

>> No.63451267

80€ (Might make an exception if I get the "perfect" keyboard for +~40€ or so)
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Probably Cherry Red, possibly silent; I want to get some fancy keycaps at some point.
I prefer ISO, but if the aftermarket keycaps suck, wouldn't mind having an ANSI board instead.
>Form factor
TKL, with arrows. I have fairly limited space on my desk.
Not a must, but would be nice. What is a must though, is that the backlight isn't to bright and can be turned off, should it have one.
>Previous/current keyboards
It would be my first mechanical keyboard. I'm basically looking for a nice looking keyboard that will last for a while and can be customized.
I have mostly used midrange notebook keyboards and a cheap logitech. I hate the noise it makes; pressing a key feels awkward - they're non-linear in a way that forces me to bottom out every time.

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