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Why aren't you running BSD /g/?

Applel macOS niggers needn't post

>> No.63330490

But I am :^)

Posted from my iPhone X

>> No.63330669

because opensuse does everything i need it to do extremely fast

>> No.63330809

didn't have a driver for my wireless chipset

switched back to linux until then

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63330929

But I am.

>> No.63330940

>>63330929
nice dock faggot

>> No.63330987

Tell me why I should be running BSD, OP

>> No.63331073

>>63330476
Because I run Gentoo which took all the good ideas from BSD like ports and BSD init and spiced them up (portage and openrc). Also BSD can't do GPU passthrough.

>> No.63331323

what is that devil doing to that poor pengu

>> No.63331461

The cuck license worries me a bit but I will try one soon.

>> No.63331559

BSD is the shit. SystemDick has killed Linux.

>> No.63332076

>>63331559
poor penguin

>> No.63332928

>>63330476
I'm using Gentoo, give me reasons why I should be using BSD.

>> No.63333188

>>63330476
what BSD do better than linux ?

>> No.63333226

>>63333188
>cleaner system design
>zfs
>pf
>dtrace
>better networking or some shit
you need drm-next-kmod and 12.0-current for it to be usable on the desktop though

>> No.63333259

>>63330476

I really like the BSD philosophy, also BSD isn't cucked by shit like SystemD or the GNU foundation.

What really keeps me from using it are basically two things:
-I'm not sure about how good hardware/software support is. I'm not a pro gamer but I don't want to fuck around with codecs or drivers for basic tasks
-I think the update system is somehow complicated. As I understood it you basically update you whole system and there's a lot of things that seem complicated like Jails, Ports and so on

Mind that I never really tried BSD, so I might be wrong about those things, but from the few things I've read about BSD it looked a little bit more complicated than linux..

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>> No.63334019

>>63330476
no drivers

>> No.63334153

>>63333259
>I think the update system is somehow complicated.
Nope. Which BSD do you plan to use? Either way, binary OS updates and binary package updates are easy, but you still have the option to update from source if you choose to.

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>>63333259
>I really like the BSD philosophy, also BSD isn't cucked by shit like SystemD or the GNU foundation.
>Mind that I never really tried BSD
classic /g/

>> No.63334425

>>63333259
>>63334340
Haha this. Your typical bsd shit in the wild.
>I don't know what this "init system" thing is all I heard that it sucks by losers online
>I never used BSD but a bunch of vocal losers told me it was better
So you are repeating memes. Also:
>I don't want to fuck around with drivers
I assume you're coming from linux where you haven't had to worry about this. Go look up any bsd distro and you'll find a "hardware list", this is their way that they pretend to justify not having any hardware support. Sometimes this shit doesn't even work in a VM right.

>> No.63334494

Because it doesn't respect my freedoms

>> No.63335842

>>63330476
>killing penguin
You guys are mean

>> No.63335955

>>63330476
I am running macOS.

>> No.63336052

>>63330476
No no somebody save Tux! The demon is killing him!!

>> No.63336146

>>63330476
Why BSD fags have literally satan as their mascot and their entire lives is being permanently butthurt at GNU/Linux as if they were the retarded unloved brother in the family?

>> No.63336352

Not running BSD because I already fell for that meme.
Fool me twice, won't get fooled again.

>> No.63336602

>>63334340
>>63334425

You guys really need to take a reading comprehension class. it is completely logical to like the philosophy of something and admit in the same sentence you've never used it.

>> No.63338859

>>63330476
I tried TrueOS. It's still very buggy but it looks promising, specially with that lumina desktop. I'll keep an eye on them.

>> No.63338879

>>63330476
BSD is useless but just like vegans everyone who uses it has to tell everyone they are vegan.

In short, BSD is the archfags of the unix world.

>> No.63339005

>>63334425

I'm not repeating Memes.

There are also linux distros without SystemD. And I don't really have problems with the GNU foundation, they did good work. But there are many communities or companies that do good work without being boasting and ranting like RMS or those "GNU+Linux" fags. It's simply annoying.


Let me put it like this:
Sooner or later I'll try BSD, but currently I'm trying to get past the "Ubunut/Mint" stage, get more into how linux works and do more things in command line.

>> No.63339026

>>63338879

Hahaha.

>> No.63339036

>>63330476
macOS (or rather, XNU) is as much BSD as it is Mach, y'know.
Anyhow I'm running 3 NetBSD servers at work, and I'll probably switch from Linux some time in the future since systemd is absolute cancer.

>> No.63339051

>>63330929
>Reading comprehension

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>>63330476
I don't know what it is.
T. Xubuntu user

>> No.63340620

>>63330476
I run OpenBSD on a few laptops and FreeBSD on one of my servers.

>> No.63340704

Alright guys, would you rather have your life support machine running:
BSD
Linux
Or Windows?

These are your only choices and you can only pick one.

>> No.63340732

>>63340704
I wouldn't want it running any of them

>> No.63340808

>>63340704
I would want it to be some sort of embeeded system preferably running straight on hardware.

Fuck this OS on my life support shit.
Also I hope it's made by phillips or GE because these two are industry standard in the med field hence they ridiculous prices (think of 14k dollars for a monitor to check your X-rays).

>> No.63341748

>>63340732
>>63340808
Niggas I said that they are your only choice. No embedded shit.

>> No.63341791

>>63339036
>netbsd
>server
tell me more

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>>63330669
this

>> No.63342038

>>63330476
i tried, but wifi didn't work at all. i seemed to have all the correct drivers, but it just refused to list any available wifi networks. on all other OSes i've used, you just click the network utility and select a network from the list, idk what the deal is with freebsd.

>> No.63342320

>>63334425
You wanna know how I can tell you're a butthurt wincuck?

>> No.63342418

>>63330476
I tried OpenBSD and I've decided I'm going to learn how to utilize it more so I can use it on my main thinkpad for everyday use and turn another thinkpad into a firewall with it.

>> No.63342419

>>63334425
HardenedBSD 12.0-current works fine with drm-next-kmod on my skylake laptop

>> No.63342449 [DELETED] 

>>63340704
great choices, I guess I'll die

>> No.63342508

>>63340704
Fuck. We're all dead.

>> No.63343110

>>63342419
Looks dope. I see their comparison list, but are all the features they have up on OpenBSD important or memes?

>> No.63343218

>>63330476
Because I can't patch KDE2 for it.

>> No.63343313

>>63341797
>Deadbeef

Hello, Kiwi friend

>> No.63343623

I run NetBSD on all of my machines. It works perfectly, never had a single issue.

>> No.63343778

What bsd is best bsd?

>> No.63343947

>>63343778
NetBSD, it's fast, secure, and has the best hardware compatibility.

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>>63336352
kek

>> No.63345259

>>63341748
No shit, and I said those are some bad fucking choices.

>> No.63345793

>>63330929
>shit tier driver support and power management
>inferior security, jails is cool I guess but no SELinux
>GNOME is broken on it
>less software available, although not a whole lot less
>complete pain to set up after installation
>no real GUI for setting up network stuff, like wifi, gotta just edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf yourself
>USB 3.0 support is a shitshow

It's honestly not that bad. I'm using it on my X220 for fun after I randomly chose to install on it on something. I plan to switch back to Fedora on it eventually though, and my home workstation where I do all of my real work is still Fedora.

>snag parts here and there from FreeBSD and bolt them on to our retarded kernel and shit
>we wuz freebsd and shit

>> No.63345837

>>63331559
I'm not a fan of systemd, but it's not really what it's done to Linux, but rather what it has the potential to very easily do. It's very possible, and probably inevitable that Linux will evolve into another walled garden, and put on rails, just like Windows and Mac. Systemd has been the biggest step in that direction, and the devs are aggressively pushing that agenda more and more.

On the other hand, it hasn't been all doom and gloom. One of the biggest gripes BSD people have with Linux is it's disorganized, half-assed nature. Unlike the BSDs Linux is not a coherent, or complete OS like each of the BSDs are. Where the BSDs are small, self-contained OSes, with their own tool-sets and centralized code-base, Linux is a mishmash of third party odds and ends, crudely duct taped together. Systemd is unfortunately addressing that by making it more BSD-like in it's uniformity, because dipshits like Torvalds and Stallman are too busy being egotistical and batshit crazy to be bothered to address that issue. It's just that Systemd is RedHat's baby, and they are effectively hijacking the entire thing in a very brazen and unappologetic manner. In 10, maybe 20 years, distros (if there are still any independent ones in existence) and third party developers will jump through whatever hoops Redhat says they will, or their software will not be permitted to be compatible with the Systemd OS. In fact developers are already willingly and eagerly sucking systemd's dick anyway so they can brag about how their software is Systemd compatible, and therefore convenient and easy to setup/use as a motherfucker.

And don't get me wrong either. The BSDs have their shortcomings too. OpenBSD is my favorite OS, but it's good for some very specific tasks, and mediocre to horrible for anything else. FreeBSD is more versatile, but the devs have maintained their stance that it's an enterprise OS and that they will devote the bulk of their resources to catering to enterprise users.

>> No.63345853

>>63345837
systemd's idea of centralization may be BSD-like, but the user interface certainly isn't.

>> No.63345918

>>63333226
OpenBSD is better as a desktop system than FreeBSD. The devs actually intend for it to be used as one, as it's what they use for development. FreeBSD devs intend for FreeBSD to be a server OS, and will happily try to sell you on Macs, which is what most of them use for development.

I don't understand why FreeBSD (and at least someone, somewhere in the Linux world) never bothered to adopt Xenocara. The patches were made available upstream from the start, and it is only a matter of taking, and applying them to X. It's not a 100% fix for X by any stretch, but it is a very huge step in the right direction, and greatly diminishes the need for bullshit like Wayland. It's not like FreeBSD hasn't liberally borrowed shit from OpenBSD (and vice versa) for as long as both have been around either. FreeBSD literally has one guy working on their graphics stack, and that's only part time. OpenBSD on the other hand has the best developed graphics stack of all the BSDs, so it would make more sense to borrow that from them, than to keep half-assing their own.

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