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>Mac is overpriced

a 27" 5k iMac costs $1799

lets say you wanted to instead build an equivalent PC:

A good 4k monitor will set you back $600 dollars, and you're still getting 4k instead of 5k (3840 x 2160 vs 5120 x 2880)

Using this build: ($1150)
https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/vHD48d/great-intel-gaming-build

And replacing the SSD with a 60$ HDD bumped up to $80 for the fusion, halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570, adding a 40$ network card brings us to $879 for a comparable computer.

Keyboard and mouse, $40 (assuming we're being pretty cheap).

Cable, 5$ (again assuming we're being pretty cheap.

Windows: free/pirated

Total: $1524

That's a difference of $275 dollars, but for that you're getting...

-5k resolution instead of 4k
-An all in one instead of tower + lots of cables
-MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity
-Warranty + support
-Computer already built for you, vs having to build it yourself
-Built in bluetooth and wifi support
-apple cloud and comfy syncing across your devices


When you consider all that, the Mac suddenly doesn't look so overpriced.

>> No.63292834

Someone post the screencap on how shitty the 5k macs screen actually is.

Also 8 dead pixels is considered normal.

>> No.63292841

I wish they still made stand-alone displays because those things were amazing. Apple has always done well with their monitors where most companies cheap out until you're into the high end market where they're no longer price-competitive with Apple's devices.

I'm not interested in a Mac but I wish I could buy one of their 5K screens with no computer inside.

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63292845

You’re absolutely right OP.

Not that street shitting pajeets with their 10 year old think pad will care though. You already lost by trying to use logic against them.

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>>63292787
>>blah blah blah Apple rox i LUV them blah blah blah

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/image/z-AKUCW9z3QIuaU6QRbRHg/
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Get a FUCKING real job iPoojeet

>> No.63292866

You're paying for macOS, you're paying for that integration and continuity between other devices. It isn't rocket science.

>> No.63292887

>>63292834
>Someone post the screencap on how shitty the 5k macs screen actually is.

Is that the screenshot where someone compares it to a Dell 5k monitor?

Yeah, that monitor costs over $2000. More than a 27" iMac.

Or at least it used to. When I try find it on the internet it doesn't appear to exist/be sold anymore.

Apple totally BTFO though by a screen which isn't in production and which cost more than an iMac itself, right?

>> No.63292888

>>63292845
>>63292787
>comparing a GTX 1080 with the m395
>6th gen CPU

Are you literally fucking retarded?

>> No.63292891

>>63292853
>too autistic to differentiate between blatant troll threads and actual product shills
>getting baited by every Apple troll thread
>bumping every Apple troll thread
>being annoyed when more Apple troll threads appear
>then bump them

I think you're the dumbest cunt on this whole board at the moment.

>> No.63292901

>>63292887
>over 2k

Lol are you poor?

>> No.63292903

>>63292888
Are you literally fucking retarded?

>and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570
>and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570
>and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570


>and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570


HURR DURR I AM A STREET SHITTING PAJEET

I CANNOT READ A LONG POST LIKE OP I JUST QUICKLY SCAN THROUGH THE LINK SO I CAN SHIT ON THE STREET ASAP WITH MY CURRY DIARRHEA

>> No.63292942

>>63292901
At issue ITT is not my purchasing power, but the value of the 27" iMac which costs $1799.

Saying the iMac is bad value because its screen is inferior to a $2k+ screen which costs significantly more than the iMac itself is nonsense.

Of course, Mac users who wish to use said $2k screen themselves (if it is even sold anymore, try and find me a place to buy it on the internet) are free to do so as the Mac Mini, iMac and Mac Pro all support external displays.

>> No.63292957

>>63292787
> A good 4k monitor will set you back $600 dollars
p2415q - 300$

The problem is the cost of the higher specs.

Now what if you want 16-32 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD?
It's now $2,299.00
What if you want an i7, 32 GB RAM and 512 SSD?
It's now $3,199.00!

The cost of these additional spec bumps is insane, and the GPU will still be relatively shit for gaming.

>> No.63292988

>>63292957
I said good, not cheapest available.

Comparing a 5k monitor to the cheapest 4k available isn't an even comparison.

>Now what if you want 16-32 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD?
It's now $2,299.00
What if you want an i7, 32 GB RAM and 512 SSD?
It's now $3,199.00!

RAM is easily upgradable in the iMac. It's easier than upgrading RAM on a PC.

Point taken on an SSD or i7, but the point still stands on the base iMac.

>> No.63293013

>>63292787


YEAH BUT OP, FOR THAT PRICE YOU GET FUCKING LAPTOP HARDWARE IN YOUR MACHINE. THE PC WILL BE 5-10 TIMES FASTER.

WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SMALLEST DESK EVER.

fucking desklet.

>> No.63293020

>>63292903
>expecting anyone to read your shitposts

>> No.63293036

>>63292787
You are actually paying MORE money for LESS product when you choose Apple, this is the part that may seem strange.

>> No.63293056

>>63293036
>You are actually paying MORE money for LESS product when you choose Apple

OP shows that is literally not true.

>> No.63293087

>>63292787
How many times have you had to reset your modem to dodge bans today Mohammed?

>> No.63293091

>>63292787
The actual system you built is more capable than that bullshit machine

>> No.63293115

>>63293087
None, I just hop on a new train.

>>63293091
More capable how? They both have basically the same specs (except the mac has a better screen)

>> No.63293163

Reminder to report the spammer and sage the thread.
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>> No.63293250

>>63292787
>5k resolution instead of 4k
A shit tier 5k monitor with dead pixels.
>An all in one instead of tower + lots of cables
Aesthetics and nothing else. Typical macfag selling point. Anyone not retarded can keep cables clean and hidden.
>MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity
Having MacOS is literally a negative.
>Warranty + support
Only if you pay $300 for applecare just to have them give you the run-around and charge you out the ass anyways anytime you make a claim.
>Computer already built for you, vs having to build it yourself
I enjoy building computers, if you don't then yes, I could see this being a positive.
>Built in bluetooth and wifi support
How much does a wireless card cost? You're grasping here.
>apple cloud and comfy syncing across your devices
You actually WANT apple cloud shit? You then want to buy an iNotch X and/or an iPad and/or shitty MBP?


I know this is bait but still..

>> No.63293267

>>63292787
Reasons why I've never even considered buying a mac:
>gaems
>I can put money in whichever components I want - I have a 144hz 1080p monitor and a 1070 because fps matters more than visuals to me, I wouldn't use 4-5k monitor if I was given one for free. Similarly someone could not give a shit about games at all, and put that money in an 8 core CPU or something else.
> you can actually replace parts on a PC - I don't want to buy a new computer every 2-3 years, that's retarded.
>The iMac is in fact overpriced as you showed, you get PC equivalent components for a greater price

Also
>Warranty
My components have warranty

>MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity
I can already have Linux/Windows on my PC, why would I give a shit about MacOS? Also, do you still get support/warranty if you hack a windows on it?

>Built in bluetooth and wifi support
Both are very cheap to get even if they're not already on your mobo.

>apple cloud and comfy syncing across your devices
Not an applefag

>An all in one instead of tower + lots of cables
>Computer already built for you, vs having to build it yourself
what are you even doing here

>> No.63293400

>>63293250
>shit tier 5k monitor
Source?

>dead pixels

source?

>having macOS is a negative

Wrong. You can install any os you want on a Mac

>only if you pay 300 for AppleCare

Wrong, Macs
Come with a warranty by default

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>>63293400
>appletrash
>warranty

The applel logo is literally a public declaration of technology illiteracy.

>> No.63293470

>>63292957
That's how all systems builders structure their pricing. They literally structure features so you have to upgrade all sorts of nonsensical things to get the most sought after build. This isn't a mac thing.. and wtf do you guys keep raging about this shit? I have mac/linux/windows. Custom/pre-built.
Use the correct tool for the correct job.

Stop with the poorfag mentality.
And yes, I've owned Dells in the past.
They're a fucking p.o.s compared to a mbp.
Not saying mbps are anything to be proud of given the nigger tier shit apple does with the hardware. Life isn't fair. Tech companies are some of the most ruthless faggots on earth. Welcome to life and business 101.

>> No.63293486

>>63293267
> Reasons why you've never considered buying a mac
Literal poorfag.

BTW, i have multiple custom builds : linux/windows. I've owned dell laptops. I've owned OEM desktops. I've build multiple computers over time. Nothing beats a mbp on the market which is why I buy one every 5 years or so and trash it. You literally buy the lowest end model and call it a day. Applecare is how they fuck you as are also upgrades. And yes, Macosx is the main reason why I buy a mbp and no i've never bought an apple desktop because I build my own.

>> No.63293494

wew, another apple shill

>> No.63293509

>when your mum buys you a mac instead of windows and you immediatelly have to shitpost about it on /g/
autism

>> No.63293521

>>63293433
So the others require more than 5 dead pixels on a 2560 x 1440 screen

2560 x 1440 = 3,686,400
Allowed pixels: 5 (0.00013563%)
Mac:
5120 x 2180 = 11,161,600
Allowed pixels: 15 (0.00013439%)

So the iMac actually has LESS allowed dead pixels compared to other brands.

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MacFag here, this entire discussion is pointless, I usually don‘t even respond to these threads - I just want these threads to end. There are many people using Apple products around here that don’t need to constantly reaffirm their purchase for themselves because they’ve grown up. The same goes with Linux and Windows users, this shit has no fucking point. You’re fighting battles for companies and you faggots do it for free. Just shut the fuck up. People know what the want and they buy it, nobody will change their opinion because of your brainlet posts, you’re not trying to proof a point, you’re trying to make yourself feel good about the consumer products you buy. You’re fucking cancer.

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63293559

>Hello fellow Americas! Gee whiz boy, I sure did hella love that cooked cow patty I just ate the most sloppy! By a way, do you ever notice how with Apple everything is so so cheap and easy, but with the PC, they make you do every all for the expensive! I am sure glad smart American people like we know to buy Apple, is that not a thing fellows?

Your daily 0.0000001 BTC should be withheld for failure to conduct market research, you lazy little shit.

>> No.63293618

>>63293559
Jaggy pls.

>> No.63293647

>>63293486
>You literally buy the lowest end model and call it a day.
1070 isn't a low end GPU by any standards, and that's the only specific part I mentioned as one I ownded.

>Macosx is the main reason why I buy a mbp
What's so great about osx?

>> No.63293756

>>63293559
>t. poorfaggot

>> No.63293842

>>63292787
> Comparing full desktop (high range Nvidia 1080/16GB OC RAM, CPU) build with mac in monitor with 8GB ram, mid-high range GPU.
Lol

>> No.63293878

>>63293842
Hello there! It appears you are quite dull. No worries, I will walk you through my OP step by step.

Notice how my build started at $1150. However, take a look at this line...

>And replacing the SSD with a 60$ HDD bumped up to $80 for the fusion, halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570, adding a 40$ network card brings us to $879 for a comparable computer.

Now, for your convenience I will highlight some of the key parts of that sentence:

>halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570
>halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570
>halving the RAM cost, and replacing the graphics card with the equivalent radeon pro 570

>brings us to $879 for a comparable computer.
>brings us to $879 for a comparable computer.

...

>> No.63293890

Can not upgrade
obsolete in a few years
macos is just a shit version of gnu/linux anyway
>implying wangblows

>> No.63293926

>>63293890
>Can not upgrade

Instead of upgrading, sell your old mac and buy a new one. Macs hold their value very well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-2012-27-IMac-2-9GHz-Core-I5-1TB-16GB-MD095LL-A-B-Grade-Warranty/122774992234?_trkparms=aid%3D555019%26algo%3DPL.BANDIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D2ebbab8941394ed88fa0ed6d60b821dd%26pid%3D100506%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26&_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226

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>>63293559
hella lol

>> No.63293981

>>63293926
>selling old computers and possibly losing hardware compatability in the future

>> No.63294167

>>63293957
Is that a screenshot from the game or a drawing?

>> No.63294199

>>63292787
>-MacOS + the ability to dual boot Windows or Linux, vs pirated windows and no Mac opportunity

Someone has never heard of Hackintosh

>> No.63294201

>>63294167
a shit modern graphic "adventure" game
it has bad character writing and what is clearly 50 year old men writing what they think is cool
somehow cool ended up being tumblr user mixed with hipster and baby punk

>> No.63294262

>>63294201
Dude, my question wasn't "Is this game any good?". My question was is that picture from the game or is it a fanart, because it looks like a scene from the game but it also looks like a drawing.

>> No.63294309

>>63294199
>fagintosh

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>>63293433

>> No.63294350
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>>63294333
Even Linus knows macs are toddler toys.

>> No.63294408

Maybe osx is good. idk I never used it as a daily driver. what I can say is that as someone who fixes computers and is a hardware guy their build quality is severely lacking with cooling clearly being under done so the system dies prematurely

>> No.63294429

>>63294262
Life is Strange.

>> No.63295969

>>63292787
Let's see ur home setup with timestamp op.

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