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no edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)


>> No.62174172

First for Filco

>> No.62174221
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Redpill me on short travel switches. I can get either Cherry G84-4100 mini or Logitech G410 tkl tomorrow. Apparently both Cherry ML or Romer-G are tactile and have 3mm travel. I'm aware that neither have custom keycaps, but I need a workhorse not a "looker".

>> No.62174325

unless there's a particular reason you want short travel switches, why miss out on more tactility and the ability to use custom keycaps?

>> No.62174473


>> No.62174528
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why is the hhkb pro2 the best my dudes?

>> No.62174555

>no F row or arrow keys
nice meme

>> No.62174594
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Even this phone keyboard has F keys and arrow keys

>> No.62175083

I'm looking for a compact keyboard and thus far I've learned this:
>Cherry MX and clones are meme and shit. Worst mechanical switches but got the clown parade going for them. Also, either 60% or gaming garbage.
>Alps/Matias are meme and shit. "Nicer" but suffer from chatter and key rattling, have no decent compact keyboards.
>Topre are meme and shit. Overpriced rubber dome. Home of overpriced 60% meme that started it all.
So, with this negativity around, I might as well go esoteric.

>> No.62175104

Why not get a keyboard with cherry ML clones?

>> No.62175153

How much impact do o-rings have on the sound of switches? It'd do virtually nothing for clicky ones like blues, right? Since it's just muffling the bottoming out

>> No.62175252
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The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism, so o-rings do effect blues

>> No.62175261

>this is what Koreans think ergo is

>> No.62175302

Kailh low profile are better than Cherry ML and come in linear, tactile and clicky flavours instead of ML's scratchy tactile only.

>> No.62175574

Hmm, mostly because the idea as a whole struck me late last night, and I wasn't aware of them. But availability might be the issue.

Aside from existence of the switches themselves, are there any keyboards that use them? Searching aliexpress with "Kailh pg1350" and "Kailh pg1458" gives nothing.

>> No.62175673


>> No.62175873

That's the only one I found for "low profile this and that", but that jewtube review sells it well and it's much better priced than that Cherry I wanted. But what are Kailh Blue, clicky-tactile? Switch connoisseurs on jewtube only speak about brown, red and white.

>> No.62175918

If you're talking about the low profiles, they only come in red brown and white. Red is linear, brown is tactile and white is clicky.

>> No.62175939

Some clone switches, such as gaterons, are actually smoother than cherry.

>> No.62175977

They're clicky/tactile. Kailh is supplying the white low profile switch in blue to OEMs because hipsters equate blue with clicky and not white.

>> No.62175997


convince me not to buy the 68-key version of this

>> No.62176047

i spilled liquor on my ds2 and killed it
what do i buy now?
it was plugged in an d then the lights went off and stopped working, any chance of saving?

>> No.62176090

>Connect LED
Hold the fuck up. Is that BT?

>> No.62176101


BT low profile mechanical 65%

>> No.62176103

Get a filco mj2. It's amazing.

>> No.62176107

function key rows are overrated.

>> No.62176131

Welp. Time to visit the agent.

>> No.62176164

any thoughts on the RACE 3?

>> No.62176190

thats what my backup kb im using right now is
i prefer backlit because im a shitter when it comes to typing so i like the light

>> No.62176268

Oh, so this is what those Havits originally are!

>> No.62176284

If you don't want to change the keycaps its an 8/10 keyboard. If you care about custom keycaps then its a 4/10

>> No.62176307

Having a bit of a brain fart here but what do I need to make a keyboard wireless

>> No.62176315

Disassemble and assess damage!

>> No.62176363

what does that entail exactly?

>> No.62176395
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Filco majestouch 2 or Ducky One TKL?

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>> No.62176517

Actually I'm getting the ducky, the only difference seems to be is that Filco has their logo on it.

>> No.62176526

Nvm they dont even have the logo, they're the same thing

>> No.62176570


>> No.62176606
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Would like spend ~$100, but can go up to $150 if i'm in love

>Location (continent at least)
United States, Texas

>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Browns or a reliable variant


>Form factor
Either 75% or TKL
(I couldn't find any 75% in stock when searching)

White LED's would be nice but not required if it brings price up too much

>Previous/current keyboards
Had a Corsair K95 RGB (MX Reds) that just broke after spilling beer on it. Couldn't fix it in the end.

Another question: I've noticed most keyboards have completely plastic bodies. Is there a market for full or partially metal?

>> No.62176619

>MX browns

>> No.62176629

Maybe you should drink beer on the couch instead of infront of the PC. I started doing that myself.

>> No.62176630

I want light, tactile, and little to no sound.

Do you know of an alternative?

>> No.62176635

Best 75% keyboard?

>> No.62176653

Mx Clear, also browns aren't even tactile you won't feel the bump when typing

>> No.62176693

See, that's what I originally wanted but I keep hearing about "fatigue" or that people end up switching back to a lighter switch. Is it not actually a problem?

>> No.62176729

I didn't know Ducky made Topre boards. Does anyone know how they are? I already have a 87u 55g.

>> No.62176734

It is a problem for some people, but if you don't have extremely weak fingers it shouldn't be a problem. Tactile switches are supposed to be heavy.

>> No.62176783

Well in that case I don't see it being a problem for me. Any suggestions on boards then with clears?

>> No.62176833

Get Filco or Ducky

>> No.62176878

Are they even in stock? Topre recently stopped production of all third party topre keyboards.

>> No.62177018

Source? I haven't seen anything about Leopold's capacitives going away.

>> No.62177054

I want to get a board with blues, how mad will my housemates be?

>> No.62177097

So it looks like Filco doesn't even carry clear switches? At least I can't find any...

>> No.62177225

Soundproof your room please before they find a way to kick you out.

>> No.62177319

varmilo 87mr

>> No.62177326

Whites are supposed to be like blues but quieter, right? Is there much difference between them and a silent tactile switch like a clear?

>> No.62177362

Try Leopold or Ducky I know Ducky and Leopold have keyboards with them

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So I jumped in on the XDA Godspeed groupbuy. I am going to either rebuild my ergodox or buy one.

Two Questions though.

1.) Has anyone figured out/made instructions for RGB underlighting of an ergodox?

I had some nornal LED strips on mine for awhile, but rhey were extremely bright and would stay on even if the pc was off so I removed them.

2.) Can I order an ergodox ez with greens?

It has the underlighting but doesn't seem to have an mx green varient. Desoldering and then resoldering 76 switches would be a pain in the ass, so I doubt I will buy one if not.

>> No.62177420

>varmilo 87mr

Where can I even purchase this keyboard? All I see are inactive MassDrop pages (which I have only heard bad tings about)

>> No.62177473

Can't find Leopold anywhere for sale with clears, even though it looks like they exist.

It's looking like I'll probably end up going with the Ducky One. Any reason not to get this one?

>> No.62177477


got mine from here, turned up in 2 weeks as ordered.

>> No.62177481

Look at the schematics of the Ergodox EZ Shine.
They are available on Github

>> No.62177491
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Which mods did you go for?

>> No.62177501

Thanks for the link anon. The cost to have clear switches on this board is an extra $23, so I think I am just going to end up going with the Ducky One.

>> No.62177512

I'd go with browns desu, i have clears on my numpad, and i couldn't imagine typing on them all day.

>> No.62177527

Clears only feel heavy when you bottom them out regularly.
Once you're used to feathering them (it's fairly easy due to light actuation and stiff bottom out) you won't fatigue your fingers while also reducing noise.

>> No.62177531

Oh boy. Now I'm getting conflicting responses. I hear that browns feel "sandy" or "dirty" from the very light tactile feedback, that is one of the reasons to get clears: a good amount of tactile feedback. Is that your experience?

>> No.62177537

It's pretty good but do some research before you buy it to make sure you'll like it.

>> No.62177547

Imagine browns as having sand stuck in the switch and clears having a pebble shoved inside. If you still can't make sense of it, buy a switch tester.

>> No.62177553

they're very tactile, there is a definite bump at the actuation point, but the force required is a bit hard on the fingers.

it's all personal preference.

Regardless, I have the Varmilo MR87VA and think it's a great keyboard.

>> No.62177571

Clears also have a significantly stiffer spring.

>> No.62177573
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Anybody tested those new kailh bronze / white?

>> No.62177577

Most people who use brown switches end up getting rid of them and start using a proper linear or tactile switch like red or blue. Brown switches feel like someone spilled sand on your keyboard.

>> No.62177584


Apollo Text Ergo and Apollo Text Tsangan.

Oh and the Planetary thing too.


Thanks mans, I had no idea it was there. Hopefully it uses a normal PCB.

>> No.62177594

Pretty much this >>62177553
But Clears are extremely sandy and rough, but a lot of it will smooth out over time.
I've had my Ergodox with MX Clears for around a week now and the alpha keys are already noticeably smoother.
Anyone who says that Browns feel sandy or gritty has never tried Clears. They are still miles ahead of that Brown trash though.

>> No.62177612

All MX switches are like that

>> No.62177643
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>short travel switches

Go to a physical store that has these keyboards on display and try them out.

I can tell you that I personally find it way too easy to mistype on those switches. It think it has as much to do with the low key-press resistance as it has to do with the short travel distance. I just can't use those keyboards. Perhaps I could use boards like that just for gaming if I got used to them?

The real question is what you will like and find comfortable and nobody on the Internet can tell you. This is why I recommend that you go to an actual physical store (or someone you know who has these) and try them out. There really is no other way to determine what you will enjoy.

silly man-let keyboard

>> No.62177652

I've used Browns, Reds, Blues, Greens and Clears.
Clears are by far the grittiest of the bunch.

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>The sound of bottoming out is louder

The impact on the sound of the switches themselves is zero, blue clicky switches will click like they always do. It's that "clunk" sound of bottoming out the keys the few times you do that which goes away.

O-rings are specially useful on brown switches because the switches themselves are very quiet but the "clunk" sound of bottoming out the keys can be very loud on some boards.

Some really don't like o-rings. For me it's almost a requirement for using a keyboard. You'll have to figure out what you prefer.

>> No.62177745


>> No.62177786

Which cherry feels most similar to a topre switch?

>> No.62177797

Cherry MY switches

>> No.62177877

Apples and oranges.

>> No.62177888

Why does your keyboard look like a christmas tree

>> No.62177898

So Razer Green or Orange?

>> No.62177924


>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type

>Form factor
75 or TKL

Appreciated, not required

>Previous/current keyboards
K70. Corsair Junk

Love the "sandwich" looking case with floating keys on a board like this https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32719978752.html?spm=a2g0n.search-cache.0.0.7f25570fN6LcFh#autostay

But I use arrows and Fkeys all day every day.

>> No.62178014

buying o rings is such a meme
just go to an orthodontist and ask for some rubberbands for braces

>> No.62178093

Or just order them for $1 instead of going all the way to the orthodontist to ask for them and not get them because you don't actually have braces.

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Anyone have a CM Masterkeys Pro M? I'm wondering how you use the multimedia keys. Do you have to press and hold the Fn key and the volume/playback/etc. every time or do you just disable numlock or something and get to press them individually?

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I desperately want a good staggered 45% keyboard. The jd45 Blocked is my endgame but I'm having a hard time tracking one down.

Do I have any other options? I have access to CNC routing if I wanted to make a case, is there a similar PCB out there I could utilize? I don't mind the Minivan or Mechmini but I hate split space bars. Anyone know if they'll ever do another run of the jd45?

>> No.62178667

I've been searching up and down the internet and can't find an answer, so gonna ask you nibbas

>found a keyboard at college 9 years ago
>had very mysterious mechanical switches
>tactile and clicky from what I can remember, switches were white
>distinctively remember the clickiness happened as key traveled UP rather than when being pressed DOWN like cherry blues

Can't remember the switch and I sold it to a friend that same year I got it. Regret it because I actually liked the switches.

I think it's white alps but it may have been topre, I have no clue what the switch looked like when the keycap was off just that it was white

>> No.62178850

I've got some Gateron blues from aliexpress and they click on the down and up stroke too. But I have a keyboard also with Gateron blues which only click on the downstroke. They booth look the same from the outside.
What's happening here?

>> No.62178884

I'm thinking about buying some vintage mx clear switches from taobao. How would they feel compared to new ones? Does the bump wears out over time?

>> No.62178907

>one column too skinny to fit the ]} and '" keys
This bothers me immensely.

>> No.62178929
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What you're describing is more a property of rubber domes than anything mechanical.

Click jacket switches don't really click on the upstroke so much as they rattle.

>> No.62179018


prob topre then, damn can't believe I gave that thing away...

>> No.62179040

Wouldn't be Topre. The sliders on those are black.

>> No.62179340

Where else would you put your enter key?

I'm looking at some minivan builds too, sucks everything below 60% is a niche market and part of a long gone groupbuy. Someone on mechmarket offered to sell me his JD45 for fucking 400 dollars

>> No.62179492

It's more that you could just make it 19mm wider and have both square bracket keys and all the typical punctuation keys on the top layer, or 19mm skinnier and just keep the < > keys. That exact layout feels like a really weird in between to me.

>> No.62179681

I see what you mean. Any 45% boards you like?

Going from a tada68.

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I'm not sure, the only one I've used is the Mechmini, and I found it a bit too limited with only having 27 alpha keys. I think this is probably what I'd want the most out of a 40-something, but the JD45 might be workable if I program the key next to enter to be ' " on the top layer with ; : on the function layer, since I use those two a lot less.

>> No.62179908

I recently bought Gateron blues and had the same impression listening to a naked, unmounted switch.
However once installed in the keyboard, they only click on downstrokes. There's a bit of a rattle on the upstroke like >>62178929 said, at the end of the hysteresis but that's all.

>> No.62180471


Poor build quality.

My Gateron Green Planck is almost unusable because half the switches feel wrong.

>> No.62180477

Anyone have a good cleaning solution, spray, liquid to clean my keyboard. I'm kind of a pleb when it comes to that. Btw I'm using a Razer Blackwidow Chroma cause I'm gay for the RGB lights and clicky keys

>> No.62180529
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Looking to change to mechanical keyboards, but budget is low at the moment, would order to Europe from aliexpress or similar. I am using a T420.

Main use would be: programming, typing. No gaming at all.
Limitations: I live with another person, and clicky noises are an issue. I figured cheery brown's equivalent would be nice, but i'm not familiar with either cherry or khali (?). As I said, i'm typing on a T420.

Numkey part would be nice to have, I have space on the desk and I do miss the number keys on the thinkpad (bookkeeping a lot).

>> No.62180602

What's the best ortholinear keyboard kit aside from plank/atomic?

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>> No.62180648

>tfw bought redragon $30 mech with clone blues and it's one of the best keyboards I've ever owned.

Had all manner of legit switches in every color but these clone blues are right between legit blues and greens and so fucking nice.

>> No.62180725

Probably the only good single block ortholinear kit because it tries to split hands apart a little: >>62169914

>> No.62181085

I am typing on a ducky one with clears and love it.

>> No.62181184

What are some good wireless options? I am slowly making the transition to being cordless, and i think its about time to retire my current wired board

>> No.62181245


Never heard about this board, thank you

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I've been using this for a while and I'm reasonably content with it.

>> No.62181329

I have a Majestouch 2 and there is a logo on the front

>> No.62181354
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Just ordered one of these for my work trips.


I like that it's a 40% with arrow keys.

>> No.62181382

Anne Pro is cheap but also has a ugly plastic case.
Filco Minila Air is more high quality but I hate that ugly forehead.
There's always the HHKB Bluetooth if you have money lying around.

>> No.62181501

How about: >>62175997, >>62176101

>> No.62181577

Oh and ignore the ortho layout. They ahve a bunch of options to pick from.

>> No.62181712

Can't speak for the Ducky One but as my *first mechanical keyboard the Filco Majestouch-2 has been amazing for the 6 months I have owned it. Only thing I would change is dropping the numpad for the model without.

*Had a shitty Razer one years ago that I hated and turned me off from mechanical keyboards for a while.

>> No.62181768

Ducky one TKL, I am typing on one now. Much better quality overall compared to the filcos

>> No.62181832

I hate how keycaps cost the same price as a whole keyboard it's ridiculous, pieces of plastic shouldn't cost $100+

>> No.62181902

I wouldn't mind this if there were full customisation options from colours and sizes to legends.

>> No.62182270

Still it's a ridiculous price

>> No.62182334

You can get chink keycaps that do that for like 50 bucks.

>> No.62182358

Code TKL

>> No.62182372

Get some on aliexpress.

>> No.62182428
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There is no way to get this keyset other than paying $100

>> No.62182458

>Massdrop finally ships keycaps after 3 months
>Been sitting in Ohio for 5 days with FedEx
>Estimated delivery not until next week

I just want to get rid of my last abs keycaps.

>> No.62182493

Those custom legends are expensive to make. You can get basic DSA sets from SP for 60 bucks, but once you throw in custom legends the price doubles. Tooling isn't free.

>> No.62182527

It's SA profile and there is no way it costs that much to make

>> No.62182697

For normal legends it isn't all that expensive, but for custom ones it can cost around $10,000 per keycap

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How the fuck can I make my own keycaps?

Could this chinese laser engraver work?

It is fucking impossible to find Hungarian keycaps, and I don't want to use blank.

I have an Ozone Strike battle, which has the keycaps, but they are too gamery.

>> No.62182735

There's no way in a hell a keycap can cost $10,000 to make and the keycaps I posted aren't even custom legends, those are the same legends they use on all of their keycaps and they're still $100.

>> No.62182763

> Hungarian

Why not to switch to a better language?

>> No.62182797

Dude do you even remotely know how utterly fucking expensive these molds are? Especially if the caps are doubleshot.
No idea i these novelties are used elsewhere or just made for this set though.

>> No.62182798

You're retarded, but that's okay its 4chan.

>> No.62182837
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>Calls me retarded
>uses "its" instead of it's

>> No.62182849

Speak four languages, type mostly in my native. If I am building my own fucking keyboard, I want it with the right keycaps.

>> No.62183261

Are there? I haven't seen a chinkfigurator, only sets with differing amount of keys.

>> No.62183301

Why can't the world switch to the better language instead?

>> No.62183334

Top kek.

>> No.62183360

Ten megabux per keycap is still retarded. Cutting it by hand from rare wood in the middle of some fucking capital city in Europe wouldn't be this expensive.

>> No.62183398

Because some nerdtard spend all his money on it and instead of honestly crying started bragging how cool it was. And the other nerdlets followed the suit.

>> No.62183409

You couldn't scale that tho. A custom, complex one off mold is always expensive no matter what. The tooling for the steam controller was like a million bucks. Of course you can do it for less, but you could never scale it as fast.

>> No.62183460
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>Shilling this hard
Don't worry people will still buy your $150 keycaps as long as you say they are rare.

>> No.62183513

The whole point of scaling production is to lower the fucking prices.

>> No.62183548
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>proven wrong
>resorts to calling people a shill

>> No.62183580

You proved nothing and are just shilling or trying to justify purchasing $200 keycaps.

Look at this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Clack-Factory-Salute-Keycap-Topre/182731795878?_ There is no reason why this should be worth that much

>> No.62183605

Eat shit. Chinks sell their dyesub shit for like $50.

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>Posts act of money laundering
>Thinks it proves my point

>> No.62183631

> There is no reason why this should be worth that much
There is. Memers gotta pay.

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Wow great quality anon. I guess you get what you paid for.

>> No.62183702

Wow that looks bad

>> No.62183707

o-rings ruin the feel of switches. just get a nice heavy switch like greens and don't bottom out anymore

>> No.62183730

It's artisan.

>> No.62183785

i agree

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My new switches just shipped!
Can't wait to solder them in tomorrow

>> No.62183803

That's literally money laundering. You can get those keycaps for like 30 bucks from clack factory.

>> No.62184460


>> No.62184524
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It's actually a sign that you're going to be successful

>> No.62184556

Is that some sort of meme? It drives me crazy even though i still get ~100 wpm. I want to start using my thumbs more because when I am typing fast sometimes my fingers don't reset to the correct position, especially if it's a key not around f or j

>> No.62184577

You are inbred.

>> No.62184591

Lies and slander. The brown hate is such a played out meme. They are good switches.

>> No.62184653

Still type faster than you m8

>> No.62184723

please respond, i'm looking forward to recommendations

>> No.62184883

It's not how fast you type, it's what you type that matters.

>> No.62185483

I type much more meaningful things than you too.

>> No.62185596

is there such a thing as a wireless keyboard with programmable gamer keys? Latency, special keys and illumination do not matter, I'm playing games and downloading porn with it. Anything more than 50 bucks is trash marketing.

>> No.62185644
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>wireless keyboard
>gaymer keys
>under 50USD

>> No.62185745

Im using a 30 dollar logitech right now and its fine. I just want extra programmable keys. I was surprised that shit basically doesnt exist. I may have to get a wired one (and Ill trash it like I do most wired things that encounter my fearsome office-chair wheels when my kb slides off my lap)

>> No.62185846

I'm not judging wanting programmable keys or a wireless keyboard, just that what you're looking for probably isn't going to exist at that price point.

>> No.62185872
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Still waiting for my tada68 to replace my beer-killed pok3r. I hate having to type on my laptop keyboard.

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>> No.62186497

I keep eyeballing this keyboard as my first mech. I'm moving from an old Sidewinder X4. I know I want clear switches. Any reason why I shouldn't buy this one?


>> No.62186667

Looks pretty good actually.

>> No.62186728

>muh ergonomics

>> No.62186750

Because you can get a ducky with very nice PBT keycaps for cheaper


>> No.62186850


>tfw I want a new keyboard
>tfw I can't decide what to buy

Unicomp Model M
>buckling springs
>dye-sub PBT caps
>a e s t h e t i c
>Classic is huge, Ultra-classic is ugly
>build quality seems questionable
>no media keys

Filco Majestouch-2
>sturdier build than Unicomp
>better body design
>easier to customize
>Cherry MX Blue/Brown/Black/Red
>no media keys
>pad printed ABS caps

Matias Tactile/Quiet Pro
>matias switches are better than cherry mx
>Tactile is cheap/Quiet is, well, quiet
>has media keys
>likely to suffer from QC issues
>thin ABS caps with awful lettering
>the glossy finish is a terrible choice and the overall shape isn't that great either

Leopold FC980M
>great form factor
>PBT caps
>seems very well built
>Cherry MX Blue/Brown/Black/Red
>no media keys
>some keys like printscreen have to be accessed through the Fn key

Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M
>best form factor
>has media keys
>seems sturdy enough
>Cherry MX Brown
>Shit coated ABS caps
>LED backlighting

Help me!

>> No.62186935
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>Masterkeys S PBT

>> No.62186941

> matias switches are better than cherry mx
>Help me!

You can't be helped.

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>> No.62187498

Buy a low profile kb.

>> No.62187612

I'm talking about the force profiile.

>> No.62187628

Ducky One with Dye-sub PBT

>> No.62187646

Just get an SSK and call it a day.

>> No.62187832

It's possible to change the guts of a switch with another of the same brand right? Without having to mess with the pcb?

>> No.62187869

It is possible, but certain conditions need to be met

>> No.62187966

I'm assuming just the correct tool and non-led switches.

>> No.62187972

Szia! E'n egy ro'ka vagyok

>> No.62187993

What stores can I find mechanical keyboards in? I want to try before I buy

>> No.62188001

Hey fellas. I've heard topre is just a rubber dome? Thinking about getting a new mech but is topre really just an expensive rubber dome? I don't want to throw my money away but they seem like really nice looking keyboards.

>> No.62188057

Had my Novatouch for over a year now and they are just expensive rubber domes. Far better expensive rubber domes.

>> No.62188222

In what aspect are they better? Every board with them is 200+ so it's hard to justify spending that much on a rubber dome

>> No.62188264

Just get a logitech k120. It's the same as topre

>> No.62188298

Wow that looks pretty sweet for the price anon! Thanks!!

>> No.62188344

All the resistance is at the top of the keystroke, which really can't be done with MX style switches. Bottoming out is softer, both in sound and feel. Don't have to hammer on them either because like MX switches, they actuate mid-press.

>> No.62188393

Think I am going to try topre a try with the logitech k120:

Found it for a really good bundle price with a new mechanical mouse too!

>> No.62188484

I bet you're that butthurt Novatouch owner

>> No.62188496

Just got an IBM Model M today it feels so fucking good to type on

>> No.62188614

No plate present with tweezers is the only requirement

>> No.62188648

Is there any switch better than buckling springs?

>> No.62188652

Microcenter, best buy, staples, walmart, pretty much any place that sells electronics

>> No.62188850

Meme springs

>> No.62189203

Are there any tactile, clicky switches similar to Blue Cherrys but with a deeper tone to the click? The Blues sound high-pitched and whiny to my ears.

>> No.62189291


>> No.62189307

There is any android phone without malware?

>> No.62189321


>> No.62189967
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sounds like BTC foam and foil with buckling rubber sleeves - one of my favourites too anon.

>> No.62190097

I bought this keyboard for work. It's surprisingly comfortable and feels quite solid for this price point.
Feels good.

- print scrn led didn't work ootb but I don't really care
- (obviously) you can't find replacement keycaps easily and the included ones are not the best quality (about what you'd expect for this price)
- the cable, while detachable, is hard to replace - most normal microusb cables won't fit as there's a collar around the port.

>> No.62190156

If you want browns, Gateron makes them much better than Cherry.

>> No.62190195

that pic
>40-ish layout
>desperate to fit in more keys, to the point of shortening the right shift
>leaving huge empty spaces where CTRLs would normally be

>> No.62190201

Literally a piece of equipment to let one-armed people still use a computer.

>> No.62190282 [DELETED] 

Unikey 87/104.

>cherry greens
>made by iKBC
>PBT caps

>> No.62190314

What keyboard is this? Doesn't come up in reverse image search for me

>> No.62190352
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Likeyboard 87/104.

>cherry greens
>made by iKBC
>PBT caps

>> No.62190379

Is there an online retailer from within the EU?

>> No.62190409
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Varmilo VB87M with an aluminum case.

>> No.62190434

I dont think so. Try searching for iKBC C87 / G87, its the same thing, but a little bit more expensive.

>> No.62190616

I'm looking at this keyboard, too.

Any owners here? Of this or the Quick fire TK?

>> No.62190622

Then it's a no-go.

>> No.62190651

Yes I have, whaddya need to know?

>> No.62190663

Is it gud?

>> No.62190712

I like them. Smooth, low wobble.
Bronze is essentially cherry blues, I can't tell them apart. Maybe a little smoother if you hit a corner.
The whites are the whites are linear but with tactile feedback. It's weird, but the little click bar send vibration/shock waves through the switch so it feels slightly clicky, but it is linear. Both are nice

>> No.62190773

I got stuck in a typing thing for, like, two hours and my fingers feel exhausted. What do I do to recover? And how do I stop, I feel like typing just a little bit more.

>> No.62190819

varmilo? tons of (MX-style) switch options, PBT keycaps

>> No.62190916

110% Varmilo dedicate the four additional buttons to god knows what instead of volume controls (and play/pause) so it's discarded right off the bat.

If I have to go 100% my choice would fall either on the Leopold because of the more convenient form factor, or the Unicomp for the better mechanism

>> No.62191437

TADA68 if you're willing to give up function row, drevo excalibur if you aren't.

>> No.62191685
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She's here you guys!

>> No.62192139

Tried a Razer switch tester at a store. I forget their snowflake colors but the clicky one seemed to be their blue. When testing, on the return it would hit resistance after it deactivated. Hysteresis I guess, but are normal Cherry MX Blues like this too?

>> No.62192177

jesus fucking christ.. your delete and page down key.. you put the fucking 1800 profile keys on there... use the proper ones.. jesus...

>> No.62192184


>> No.62192291

Which switch would keep the key activated while under the return resistance? Is it even a concern if I'm getting a keyboard for typing?

>> No.62192334

I think you're talking about a thing clicky switches have, where they don't reset until far above the activation point because of how the click works. Any linear or tactile switch won't have that.

>> No.62192502

Right, that's what I'm talking about. Is there anything between brown and clear switches in terms of resistance?

>> No.62192539
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I think my next board is going to be either a drevo gramr with max keys ninja or a plum nano 75 in black with the dolche max key set.

Anyone else love white boards but hate that they match exactly nothing else on your desk?

>> No.62192591

There's Zealios, MOD tactiles and Outemu purples.

>> No.62192688

Thanks, I'll get back to looking around.

>> No.62192737

is colemak a meme?

>> No.62192914
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What's more typewriter-like than blue mx switches? I want something that has more of a satisfying click while requiring more weight to actuate.

>> No.62192928

buckling spring idk

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>> No.62193100

Why don't you just use a switch tester with 2 buttons and type everything in binary. At what point is too few keys too few?

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ummm i bought what was advertised as mx blues. the color is brown, so does that mean they're brown?

>> No.62195019

Yes, brown and shit.
You got fucked.

>> No.62195038
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the fuck. he literally called them blues. that explains why they don't click enough.

>> No.62195057

Ha ha time for dispute

>> No.62195066

what should i do? what can i do to keep the keyboard and the money? is that possible?

>> No.62195167

If you wanna be a huge dick, and the guy has no idea how to deal with the dispute system, you can open a dispute with proof, and Ebay will step in if he doesn't respond correctly.

Just return it and get your money back, you dick.

>> No.62195223

File dispute with reason being that the goods are substantially not as described.
Refuse to pay anything out of pocket for their mistake, such as return shipping. This includes paying ahead of time and having them reimburse you later, unless you have some sort of protection like escrow or a guarantee from the facilitator (assuming ebay here). Make sure that you unquestionably demand this.
If he sends you a return shipping label or otherwise pays for it in a secure manner that ensures you'll safely get your money back, you return it. Don't be a dick.
Optionally also leave feedback that's actually useful for others. You shouldn't someone 1 star if they handle the situation professionally, but you also shouldn't cover up their carelessness with glowing 5 star feedback.

>> No.62195469

Cherry MX Browns are the worst keyfeel I've ever experienced. My brother has Logitech G710+ with them and it's the absolute worst mix of resistance and click placement.

>> No.62195484

>click placement

>> No.62195611

Someone redpill me on whites.

>> No.62195937

No, you don't want the inconsistency of whites.

>> No.62196167

Source of that dxd mousepad, senpai

>> No.62196466

what's worse: inconsistency of whites or shitty feel of browns?

>> No.62196480

Both, get clears.

>> No.62196485

if you had to choose one, what would it be?

>> No.62196518

Whites, I guess. Browns, especially after the retooling, just feel like badly made reds.

>> No.62196603

whats good about clears. i like greens

>> No.62196740

Then get greens lol. Why are you asking about browns or whites?

>> No.62196777

im not him, but whats the appeal to whites? are they really inconsistent?

>> No.62196816
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What PS/2 to USB adapters work with Model Ms?
Everywhere I've looked up people recommend this fat piece of shit that from what I can tell looks like it would cover any adjacent ports.

>> No.62196894

They have something different about them that sometimes makes the click quieter. And yes, most switches vary from batch to batch, whites often vary from switch to switch on the same keyboard in both volume and feel.

>> No.62196899

How do you actually program without arrow keys? I guess you have to know vim with native efficiency or take a huge efficiency hit. Fuck that

>> No.62197056

what's better: whites or blues

>> No.62197064

i meant clears

>> No.62197084

Ergo Clears are the best Cherry MX switch.

>> No.62197086

Blues feel better, but I don't like the click so I prefer clears overall.

>> No.62197118

Clears are great, they're by far the best Cherry switch in terms of typing feedback. However, the variance is real, not just in terms of weight, but the smoothness of the action too, some are a bit scratchy. It's not something you notice in typing, but it is annoying to know about.

>> No.62197336

Is there a comparison chart for the different makes (gateron, kailh etc.) of each switch?
I have the feeling that my noppoo choc mini with gateron blues isn't as good as the reviews of the older models which came with mx switches and better keycaps.

>> No.62197523

There's this: https://input.club/the-comparative-guide-to-mechanical-switches/

Just know that Input Club is incredibly bias because they have a partnership with Kailh, and they shit on Gateron because that's Kailh's biggest competitor in the market space. But Input Club have made pretty accurate force charts, just ignore the flavor text.

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>new gateron housing

>> No.62197810

Are Romer-G switches that bad? I want to try them but the travel distance they have bothers me. Is it easy to get used to them?

>> No.62197914

If you want a low-profile short travel keyboard there is also >>62175302.

There was something about Romer-G breaking easily, at least some anon fell for them and a few days later complained that a button won't hold in its place. There was something about keycap quality too, their edges wear off over time and the light will shine through.

You'll probably get used to it in a week.

>> No.62198101

Does anyone know what the best site to buy a ducky one in europe?

>> No.62198102

>no MX or Topre stem, stuck with the shitty Logitech provided thin ABS keycaps
>if you get an older model, you're stuck with the horribly bad sculpted G4M3R caps
>someone thought two leaf contacts was good idea, so this results in key chatter from constant crosstalk
>manages to STILL feel worse than Cherry Brown, which are already shit

DO NOT buy any Logitech board, there are way better options out there at much lower prices. Avoid Logitech, Corsair, and Razer all together.

>> No.62198148

So what do you recommend? I was thinking on buying the G810 beacause the casual aesthetic, but your post makes me think otherwise. I want red, brown or blue switches, RGB if possible and a casual look, not a gamer look.

>> No.62198171

do they make an affordable silent black clone yet?

>> No.62198297


>> No.62198345

Aren't those double contacts redundant to improve switch durability?

>> No.62198360

They're supposed to be, but that theory didn't end up working in practice.

>> No.62198458

Thanks a lot

>> No.62198517

Why do SA keysets take so long to make? The Oblivion keyset on massdrop is going to take a year to arrive.

>> No.62198541

Because Signature Plastics is backed up to hell on their SA production and won't expand their capabilities. Yet people keep insisting on commissioning SA sets from them rather than investing in a company like Maxkey that could dethrone them.

>> No.62198688

What's a good price for a Ducky One TKL?

>> No.62198743
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I'd recommend the Ducky One with dye-sub PBT keycaps, but if you really want RGB, the Masterkeys Pro RGB, Ducky One RGB, and Ducky Shine 5/6 are decent, but take note that the keycaps are ABS (except for the Ducky Shine 6's PBT keycaps, if you can get over the abysmal case design).

And if you want to go for 60/65%, there's the Tada68, but if you really want RGB, there's the Anne Pro which even has bluetooth.

>> No.62198850


I was just about to get a ducky one with mx clears now I see this and it has zealios now I don't know what to get.

>> No.62198876

don't do massdrop, buy the tada68 kit and zealio switches direct from kbdfans and ask them to assemble it for you if you can't solder

>> No.62198906

Hi kbdfans

>> No.62198920


>> No.62198928

>Dec 4 ship date

Just get it from our boy KBDfans.

>> No.62198964

I'm shilling them for a reason, Massdrop estimates they'll ship them in 3 months and always have delays on top of that. If you buy a TADA68 with gaterons from KBDFans, it will only cost you a whopping $5 more shipped (Or $3 more if you want an aluminium case) anywhere in the world and I guarantee you they'll have it at your door within two weeks.

>> No.62199010

The only reason I was considering it is because it is only $20 more than a ducky one with mx clears if I order from kdbfans it is $60 more.

>> No.62199027
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any neat key caps for ducky tkl? any color scheme, just interested in what people have found

>> No.62199068

SA Pulse

>> No.62199223

Yea, Zealios is overpriced shit sold by a scammer, what did you expect?

If you can wait until December, getting a Zealios board under $110 is pretty good, especially since it's definitely going to reach its lowest price.

>> No.62199228

Taihao Miami

>> No.62199257

Scammer or some sleazy businessman who ordered Gaterons in custom colour and managed to force them into meme?

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I was just following the guide, but "overpriced shit sold by a sleazy businessman that forced Gateron into an exclusive contract" doesn't sound as appealing.

Seeing him sell those "Tealios" that are nothing more than overpriced Gateron Yellows is definitely a giant scam though, but of course that doesn't stop Reddit from sucking his dick and buying whatever he shits out.

>> No.62199517

What are those in the bottom row? Can't read the imprint

>> No.62199533

I've been a pretty big blue shill but now that I own a black board I think they are actually superior as a general use switch.
Something to keep in mind, give a heavy linear a shot you might love it.

>> No.62199641

Gateron on the left, MOD tactile on the right

>> No.62200148

Matias click

>> No.62200463
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Chink variant is cheaper, comes with more switch choices, swap-able case, programmable and back lit.

I've got a chink clone with the same layout, except with gateron blue switches. Pretty much if you use vim like keys for everything from your text editor to your window manager, it's almost a non issue. The function (fn) key allows you to use { : " / as your arrow keys if you need them.

The esc, backspace, super/win and ctrl key positions are what sold me on the layout. Feels a lot nicer to type on once you get used to the layout.

The only complaint I have is there should be another function key on the other side of the keyboard.

>> No.62200481

Bought a mechanical keyboard.

Waste of fucking money, imo. If I didnt have money to spare on shit like this I would be pretty upset.

I came from a microsoft sidewinder x4 which I still think is better but now refuse to use because I spent fucking 200$ on this shit.

>> No.62200590

Are you >>62186497? What did you get? What caused your grief?
In any case, welcome to the club. Now, start taking pics of your shiny clean keyboard and go tell membrane losers to switch to mechanical while secretly sporting a sidewinder.

>> No.62200996

Don't tell me you bought topre

>> No.62201010

Is it possible to repair paint scratches/chips on plastic devices? It's a very small fix but its bugging me hard

>> No.62201042


>> No.62201286

would nail polish do the trick? my kb has a tiny paint scratch

>> No.62201318

You're better off with enamels or acrylic model paints. Lacquers like nail polish can dissolve plastic.

>> No.62201395

i see f keys and arrow keys in his pic

so what are you going on about?

>> No.62201403

You're retarded

>> No.62201446

and yet i typed all that without f keys or arrow keys

>> No.62201483

You really are retarded, you think you need f keys and arrow keys to type?

>> No.62201524

You know you can get good boards for like $30-40 right?

>> No.62201740

Can i get an honest opinion on topre?

>> No.62201775
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Any Minila bros here? Got any cool sets?
Why are there so many SA meme caps.

Not him but search on Aliexpress, they can even print your photos

>> No.62201950

Heavier rubber dome

>> No.62201978

Why is it so expensive? Aesthetics?

>> No.62201997

There is a low demand for them

>> No.62202168

Oh, look at this, /mkg/ A package!

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>> No.62202193

What it could be?

>> No.62202202

Better not be a rubber dome

>> No.62202215
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For some reason Vivaldi its fucking with me today.

>> No.62202260

better be cup rubber

>> No.62202264

any recommendations for:
live in england but in america monopoly money i'd be up for spending $80-120
looking for a full size keyboard and will mainly be using it for FPSs. as for back lighting and things that aren't necessary I don't really care.

>> No.62202267
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It could be, it could not be.
Well, looks very protected in his bag. Perhaps its a flimsy rubber dome.

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>> No.62202306
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Its not a TADA68, neither a rubberdome.

>> No.62202334
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All black, fine PBT keycaps and sweet smooth gateron browns.

>> No.62202409

What are /g/'s thoughts on Romer-G switches?

>> No.62202423

Expensive crap.

>> No.62202515

magicforce 108 or leopold 980m

>> No.62202538

How much did it cost? I only see those legends on chinkshit

>> No.62202556

Almost 60 in banggood. Was a good offer considering what offers.

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