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/mkg/ - Overpriced Korean Customs Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous Thread >>61860036

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>> No.61889707

>overpriced korean customs
>posts reasonably priced chinese custom

>> No.61889718

inb4 gunposter

>> No.61889737
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you can't just inb4 like that

>> No.61889760

>$350 just for the basic kit
>reasonably priced
Good one m8, also it is korean

>> No.61889772

where can I find key caps for my filco


>> No.61889786


>> No.61889807

>What is it: A Chinese custom 96-key aluminum mechanical keyboard.

geekhack /index.php?action=profile;u=49939
>Location: Changchun, China

You're literally retarded.

>> No.61889908

>posting outdated information
You're the retard anon.

>> No.61890036

It's a keyboard that has always been made in China and designed by Chinese people. Nothing about it is Korean.

>> No.61890083

came to say that keyboard is hawt

>> No.61890098

post more with guns!!

>> No.61890199

How fucked I am wanting to build a Matias QC keyboard? I feel like I can forget about ABS/PBT keycaps, the problem will be getting buttons of proper size...

>> No.61890215

Matias sell keycaps directly and SP have ALPS mount molds. You'll be ok.

>> No.61890355

Get a life, you're in every fucking thread without fail

>> No.61890515

the irony on this comment is strong

>> No.61890813

I ordered new keycaps for my board, and now some of the keys that use stabilizers are stiff and come loose when you push them at the ends. They're all properly installed, they're just stiff and definitely feel wrong. I'm using the ones that came with the board, should I order new ones and see if they work? Is this normal?

>> No.61890909

I am ordering this keyboard:

I am also debating some custom keycaps for use on my mac..would these work with the ducky one?


>> No.61890975

Ducky uses a standard layout with OEM keycaps, so yeah they'll work

>> No.61891067


Apparently its good.

>> No.61891099

Matias only has a standard set (at least shift is long) and specialised for two ortholinear keyboards (which I'm not sure would be comfortable at all), Signature Plastics only take group orders, don't they?

Also, I feel like staying under $150 will be tough.

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>> No.61891152

What's the deal with /g/ disapproval of cherry switches recently?

I've used a noppoo choc mini for 9 years and it uses cherry mx reds. I love this board, maybe it's the new cherry switches that are shit?

Objective critique of the cherry mx switches would be appreciated.

Someone red pill me please.

>> No.61891210

Nice looking board. Shame the layout's a bit shit, and the under lighting is so fucking gay it makes Isaac Hempstead Wright blush, but, still, I kind of like it.

>> No.61891214

>What's the deal with /g/ disapproval of cherry switches recently?
Contrarinism. I realized that too, /mkg/ used to shill browns like crazy and suddenly they hate them. When I pointed that out, some asshole randomly pulled a three year old thread from the archives I guess assuming I'd be wrong but sure enough half the fucking posts were recommending browns. Cherries are just too mainstream for enthusiasts to admit they like now I guess. There's literally nothing wrong with them.

>> No.61891233

They have decent enough linear switches, but after their patents expired a lot of companies started making clones that are much better (smoother, better weighting, and more tactile).
Not to mention matias, topre, and buckling spring switches exist, which are better than cherry and clones in just about every way minus keycap options.

>> No.61891239

Have you tried other switches like Gaterons? How do they compare?

>> No.61891254

Could you explain the objective differences between the Matias, toppre , and buckling spring switches when compared to mx cherries?

>> No.61891257

I own two of those. They have a backplate.

>> No.61891391
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Just ordered this for the 2U AE caps
Wtf has this hobby done to my wallet???

>> No.61891512

This. I got browns after extensive shilling three years ago. And now suddenly /mkg/ and fucking plebbit got "sand" in their switches.

>> No.61891547

SP put ALPS granite on their PMK storefront, but still under $150 you're having a laugh mate

>> No.61891604

Well, here is a basic summary:
Matias uses metal for the contact and tactile leaf rather than a bump on the stem that the produces the tactile bump, resulting in a smoother and more tactile feel. Matias switches can be opened up while they are on the board rather than having to desolder the switch to clean or maintain them. They last just as long as cherry switches.
Mx switches on the other hand, are a simpler design, so less shit can go wrong with them. They don't have as much key wobble as matias and are less prone to key chatter. They also have more availability.
Buckling spring is an extremely stable design that has less key wobble than both and more tactility than both.
They are, however, loud and are only found on used boards or unicomp boards. So you take a gamble on how good the build quality is going to be.
Im not >>61891233 so I Can't speak for topre.

>> No.61891666

Unfortunately, Cherry's new molds aren't as good as they used to be. Almost every Gateron is better than their Cherry equivalent, except for Blues, people still openly debate that one, but Browns and Reds are decided in Gateron's favor. Cherry Clears are still decent switches, but if overpriced Zealios didn't exist, Gateron probably would've made a better alternative, but for now Cherry Clears are still a good cheap option for medium tactile switches. And if anyone has tried Kailh's new speed and box switches, those are actually shaping up to be better than Cherry too, especially Box White switches.

Cherry is still better than Greetech, Outemu, etc though, and buying a Cherry keyboard is still a good choice, but Gateron is still on top right now.

>> No.61891866

Ever since gaterons came out people began to realize how much better they are. Heck even most of the popular enthusiast switches are made by gateron

>> No.61892340


Few questions.

Are Kailh switches good ?
What are the loudest switches availabile?
Are any of the chink mechanical keyboards good?

>> No.61892356


>> No.61892365

>Are Kailh switches good ?
Not yet
>What are the loudest switches availabile?
If its just by the actuation mechanism its omron ambers, however if you include stuff like solenoids then it would be IBM beam springs
>Are any of the chink mechanical keyboards good?

>> No.61892491

So I've been using a CM quickfire with brown Cherry MX switches.
I liked it because it was a minimalistic design with no RGB bullshit.
For some reason it's no longer working, so what would be a good (and cheap) chink alternative for it ?

>> No.61892559

Magicforce on amazon

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>> No.61892652

I'd get told to leave if I brought that into my office

>> No.61892668

Gateron Green also don't come close to Cherry Green.
The Gaterons are literally just heavier blues.

>> No.61892732

hey where did you get a minimal keyboard with ISO layout? can't seem to find one

>> No.61892760

build it yourself faggot

>> No.61892810


>> No.61892824

Change the keycaps, paint the faceplate in matte black, put gateron browns and don't ever use the backlight.
Then It will be a good keyboard.

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>this post

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Who is more autistic? The autist or the autist who follows him?

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>Up & down arrow keys switched

>> No.61893169

what board is that OP?

>> No.61893179

Ah, PMK, $100 for a full TKL set - and letters out of stock... Makes me feel like I should just replace Cherry Browns with Gateron/Zealios and forget about the whole Matias thing for a couple of years.

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Tell me why I shouldn't buy this keyboard.

>> No.61893211

Only reason is that it's not as sturdy and heavy as a real Model M. But it's good.

>> No.61893217

trackpoint actually isn't good

>> No.61893231

I can modify the sensitivity and acceleration easily on GNU+Linux.

>> No.61893254

It's not a strain gauge, but a joystick.
Keep in mind that.

>> No.61893259

Doesn't look as convenient as the modern trackpoint, but there really aren't that many options

>> No.61893309

loser. namefag too.

>> No.61893347

So, what's wrong with all the mini keyboards that get posted all the time? Not a slightest bit of dirt or dust on or below the keys.
What keyboards do you actually use?

>> No.61893377
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>Getting dirt and dust on your keyboard

>> No.61893403

>come into an autistic thread dedicated to keyboards
>surprised they keep them clean

>> No.61893452

Where can i get a model m for around $40? I can't find anything on ebay

>> No.61893463

Did you try electronic recyclers or thrift stores like goodwill?

>> No.61893490

I don't have any of those around me so no.

>> No.61893550

It just happens naturally over the use and time! Call me a mud-wrestler, but I want to see some well used keyboards where it's clear that they aren't kept away, but used - and they aren't afraid of it.

No, of course au- enthusiasts keep all except one of their keyboards in clean, airtight boxes and get them out only on a weekend or a holiday. But what is their day-to-day choice?

>> No.61893581

just got a vortex race 3 desu
cherry mx clear is such an upgrade from greens hehe

thanks /mkg/ <3

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First mechanical keyboard purchase, how did I do /g/

>> No.61893640

POM or PBT? I cannot decide whether to replace my POM keycaps for PMT for the sandy-ish feel. Or to just use the same caps I've been using.

>> No.61893671

Decent choice. You're fucked to only getting SA keycaps when you want to change though.

>> No.61893686

POM is mostly the same as PBT, just so long as your keycaps aren't ABS, you're good.

>> No.61893687

Ducky keyboards already come with a keycap puller

>> No.61893697

What's wrong with SA?

>> No.61893725

Yeah i've heard those plastic ones are shit and I plan on swapping keys in the near future most likely unless i really like the ducky ones

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Nothing, you just have to wait until 2020 to actually get a set. On a more serious note, a lot of people don't like how high profile they are, and this usually leads to uncomfortable typing. But the biggest issue is of course the fact that they're expensive and SP has a fuck huge backlog that's usually met with delays so you'll never actually get the set you bought 2 years ago.

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Is a model M worth it for 3rd world peasants?

>> No.61893930

depends how much you get it for

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>> No.61894009

what the fuck

>> No.61894068

This is more white trash than I can handle.

>> No.61894121

100 us bucks with box and mint condition, 1995 PS2 version

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>> No.61894278

Just make sure it is the mechanical version as there is also a rubber dome one too

>> No.61894574

>If I don't know what the letter is, I guess it can be whatever I want it to be.
Finally, someone who gets it.

>> No.61894628

no nkro

>> No.61895297

good thing this isn't /v/

>> No.61895490
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I found this keyboard for 20 bucks at a thrift shop.

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It comes with floppy disk TouchPad drivers

>> No.61895517

It comes with moonrunes pre-printed on the keys. Overall it's a good 9/10 keyboard maximum comfy and just werx when you plug it in. Also its aesthetic as fug

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Forgot pic

>> No.61895528

Anne Pro ISO layout will be coming out soon, too.

>> No.61895623

that is a work of art

>> No.61895688

I want one

>> No.61895741

noob here
are there silent options out there?

>> No.61895743


>> No.61895771

Those aren't your everyday moonrunes.
That's a chinese layout you have there.

>> No.61895785


>> No.61895790

Thank god now I can shitpost in commie

>> No.61895912

Cherry silent red/black
Matias quiet click/linear
GMK silencing clips for MX-style switches, if you're using Cherry profile keycaps

>> No.61896082

What's the difference between clips and o-rings?

>> No.61896279

O-rings dampen the sound of the keycap hitting the top of the switch when you press it all the way down

Clips prevent the switch stem from hitting the top of the switch fully when released and when you use Cherry profile keycaps it also somewhat dampens the sound of them hitting the top of the switch

You can combine the two, but I've heard people say that that makes bottoming out too mushy and soft

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>Overpriced Korean Customs
>not Lightsaver

>> No.61896965
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Buying parts for my custom 60%.
What are my options for an aluminum case with the floating key style?
This will be my at-home board, so I want one with all the unusual shit I've never tried before (DSA, Zealio, colorful keycaps, etc).
Pic related is really nice but obviously not the floating key design.

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I actually have 3 of em. Yes they get used daily for various purposes.

>> No.61897847
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Are Kailh and Greetech absolutely shit tier compared to Gateron?
Considering getting a set of light linear switches for either a new build or to use in my hot swap board and was thinking of trying something other than Cherry or Gateron.

>> No.61897936
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Fixing this mechanical keyboard.
Bought the part to fix pulley tilt and need to get liquid nails or something to fix the space bar.It should be in perfect working order after that

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I think it really depends on what plate you want to get. With the low case/floating key design it give you a much better view of the plate on the edges.
I recently did a build with a carbon fibre plate and, while this isn't the best photo, it looks pretty nice. Not sure if I want to keep these caps on though.

>> No.61898121

The last keyboard I used was a Logitech K120. Which switch is closest to it? How different is it compared to a blue switch? I need something that's easy on the fingers since I type a lot.

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So you bunch of meming faggots.

I just picked up a Cooler Master MasterKeys S PBT tenkey with MX Reds.

Tell me why you think I was wrong to do that.

>> No.61898740

try some o-rings on the reds and you're probably good to go

>> No.61898919

Already planned on it, plus dampening the inside of the board to reduce clackiness.

Are there any other ways I can make the keyboard more quiet?

>> No.61899002

Red switches are already quiet

>> No.61899033

i think he means from bottoming out so easily because you just have to look at a key for it to go down with reds

>> No.61899202

I love black and orange so much. This looks nice.

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love me some topre

>> No.61899290

>Rubber dome
Get out

>> No.61899353

b-but it's capacitive.

>> No.61899996


No, I mean to further silence the keys.

Mechanical keys are far more noisy than any dome or scissor switch key. Even the non-clicky reds. I want the sound of my typing to be little more than the sound of the momentum of my keystrokes being dispersed into my desk, ideally.

>> No.61900104

literally all membranes are capacitive

>> No.61900490

What do you guys use to clean your keyboards?
I've had my keyboard out in my room for a week and it's already filled up with dust and shit.

Would canned air do?

>> No.61900638

Why is there no switches better than buckling spring?

>> No.61900654

didn't mean to reply to you but yeah canned air works

>> No.61900709

clean your room to avoid the situation

>> No.61900814

How good are gat clears?

>> No.61900844

One completes a circuit while the other senses the change of current

>> No.61900857

Best linear switches ever made.

>> No.61900945

I clean my room often, I just live in a dusty area.

>> No.61901035

Gat Clears is MX Red on steroid.
Zealio is what Gat Clears should have been, i.e a better MX Clears.

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Nerd vs. IRL

>> No.61901112

More like Gat clears are MX reds on estrogen

>> No.61901181
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Britbong here. What's the cheapest way/place to buy a HHKB?
All the places i'm looking at are >200GBP which is an obscene markup.

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Which one now, lads?

>> No.61901387

Go to any store and buy a rubber dome keyboard for $5

>> No.61901410

what is the color of the keyboard?

>> No.61901423

they miss spelled backspace so neither

>> No.61901437
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Black case, though I reserve the option to get another color later.

The best thing about being an ESL is that I don't really care about stuffs like that.

>> No.61901478

motherfucker is smart, probably got some free boards for fucking up like an absolute idiot

>> No.61901503

You say that but I just implanted the seed into your mind. Slowly over time it will start to bug, plus every time you post a picture of your keyboard people will be quick to point out the grammatical errors of your shitty chink knock offs. At least buy keycaps from a manufacturer that has some quality control like gateron

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pok3r hana reporting in

>> No.61901539

If you are buying a tada 68 just know that 90% of the keycaps out there are a downgrade in quality and the only way you'd be getting something better is if you spend $100+

>> No.61901629

My first mech keyboard ever is arriving today. I got a black Qisan Magicforce 60% with brown Gateron switches for $60 on Amazon. Hopefully everything fucking works

>> No.61901673

Oh it should work just fine, though if you are a man with taste, you will feel the need to switch keycaps right the fuck away. Those things are hideous.

>> No.61901716

Yeah I've been looking into it. I figure I'll order some after about a week's use. It's cool that keycaps are standardized e.g. I know the board has an ANSI layout and the switches are a standard cherry, so I should have a lot of options.

mech keyboards are cool, I'm excited

>> No.61901727

*standard cherry style stem* I mean

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You can buy mine, I'm even located in Europe.

>> No.61901888

Yeah, that is currently my main pain point now. I am so very happy with my current TADA68, both form factor and switch and keycap quality.
It's just, I really am not a fan of the beige color scheme. Just looking for something more... modern.

>> No.61901922
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Battle of the 61%
WASD 61 key VS Leopold FC660M

Same switch, same price, which is the superior keyboard, if there is one.

>> No.61901929

Leopold by a mile

>> No.61901989

topre with kbdfans silence-x might be the quietest.

>> No.61901990

Bumping for you anon, I'm in the same situation myself.
The WASD is smaller, but I love having a dedicated delete key

>> No.61901993

It pretty clearly comes down to how much you value arrow keys if you ask me. I'd get the WASD if I was buying a keyboard for typing as its more standard looking and has totally normal keycaps for easy replacement.
I couldn't play vidya with either though as I need my f row.

>> No.61902023

Both are standard caps, and both have Fun row through the fn key

>> No.61902026

theres an all-white tada68.

>> No.61902037

Doesn't matter, every 60% has it through the fn key. It's still unusable to me personally for playing vidya.
It looks like the primary difference between those two boards is the arrow keys.
Also how can they both be standard if they have different sized right shift keys?

>> No.61902045

Leopold of course.

>> No.61902074

The wasd has shitty abs keycaps. Leopold is eventually getting pbt on pbt doubleshot though.

>> No.61902246

I know. If you see a white TADA with blank CYMK mods here or on Reddit, that was me.
That white one is at my office. I have another one at home, with the old beige color scheme, which I'm considering getting new keycaps.

>> No.61902276

Then get those all black keycaps made by EnjoyPBT

>> No.61902277

The Leopold has 2 same-sized Shift, which is worse for getting keycaps than a TADA with its 1.75u Shift.

>> No.61902335

Wouldn't that make it easier since its the same size as a standard left shift, unlike the custom one the tada68 has?

>> No.61902394

Most standard keycap sets have 2 Shift sizes, 2.25U and 2.75U.
With the TADA, it's harder, but many keycap sets have extra mod kits with the 1.75U, so it's just a bit more expensive.
With the Leopold, chances are, if you REALLY want a keycap set, you will need to buy 2 base kits for those 2 same-sized Shift keys. It's a real bitch.
Source: I have 1 Leopold and 2 TADA.

>> No.61902420

I just received my enjoyPBT keycaps today and they are terrible, my abs keycaps that came with my magicforce108 are better. I can't believe you guys actually tricked me into buying that shit.

>> No.61902440

Why are you lying on the internet?

>> No.61902464

Shut the fuck up idiot these keycaps are shit and now i'm out $40.

>> No.61902489

Lying again. Its okay though its 4chan so everyone will forget.

>> No.61902496

I think you mean DSA. Or XDA, and flat profiles in general.

There are definitely no SA sets that will fit this, since SA is sculpted and I don't think any SA sets come with 1.5u R4 keycaps, R1 End, R2 PgDn and R3 PgUp.

And DSA is one of the lowest profiles.

>> No.61902507

You're a shill

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it actually shipped

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>> No.61903525

My Steelseries 6gv2 of 3 years is beginning to get quite severe key stuttering on the m, l, r and a keys.
Other than the key stuttering which started a couple of months ago on the m key it had been a solid buy. Will miss the cheap chap.

Can anyone recommend a solid replacement?

>> No.61903570

Yeah desolder and replace the chattering switches, or get a capacitive switch like a plum 84 so you don't have to worry about those contact based switches

>> No.61903580


I had the same keyboard, started registering double presses just over a year in which pissed me off.

I got an Aivia which uses brown switches.

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>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
I'd like to try out a keyboard with mx greens at home. Open to alternative brans with the same force as mx greens.
>Form factor
Preferred not, acceptable for the right price
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky One Shine (browns), Noppo Choco Mini (browns), Rosewill RK-9000 v1 (browns)

Since I got my first apartment and I don't have to worry about my typing bothering people, I'd like to try something new.

>> No.61903623

Unicomp has the same force as greens

>> No.61903677

I was definitely looking at that as an option since I saw it on Massdrop. Reading the thread, though, someone was saying that the build quality isn't very good. I'm not expecting Model M quality durability, but is it durable enough?

>> No.61903723

Whereabouts in Europe? How old is it? How much would you want? What's your penis size?

>> No.61903780
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Switzerland, it's about a year old, got used for half a year.

You can drop me an email at [email protected], or preferably just contact me via telegram at https://t.me/seiden

>> No.61903855

Much much more durable then all the chink shit out there.

>> No.61903976

Shit, I'll give it some thought. I did just splash £350 on an F77 a few weeks ago, so I might hold off for a while.

I'm also not the original anon that asked the question (though I'm also a britbong), so he might get back to you as well. Though, >>61901181, smartimports.net has them somewhat cheaper (in the £170 range).

>> No.61904046

As I lurk more, my optimism for building my own keyboard (especially on Matias) dwindles every day. Seems like it's much cheaper to buy a MX-based keyboard (even chinkshit) - then replace switches and keycaps at my own pace.

Could you suggest what options do I have for:
>Preferred switch type
Tactile non-clicky (chances some use Gateron Brown or Outemu Purple already?)
ANSI for that long left shift
>Form factor
75% or TKL
Not important, but good for modding

>> No.61904095

This board just came in and...I dunno if I love it. It's Gateron browns and it's annoyingly loud, so I put my orings on and it's still loud. Also I'm not blown away by the feel of a mech keyboard. Maybe it's a "learn to love it over time" thing.

Have me and my wallet been meme'd?

>> No.61904300
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>paid EUR 4.77
I don't know how many burgerbucks that is but it can't be much

>> No.61904304

well no one buys mech boards for the quietness. Did you try a switch tester?

The only truly quiet switches are matias quiet click and topre with silencing rings.

>> No.61904315

Like 6

>> No.61904334

Nah because it was $10 plus I'd have to buy another $10 for shipping because I didn't have Amazon Prime, so that was $20 I could put towards a keyboard, so I did that instead.

It's not so much the sound that's a negative as much as it is the feel. I guess I was expecting something revolutionary by having it built up so much in my mind. The awesomeness of mech keyboards has been praised forever, so they can't really live up to the hype.

I am typing fast on it though. I did the type racer game and got 124 wpm with 98% accuracy, so I dunno

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>> No.61904543

I'm looking for a cheep red switch mechanical KB. I am thinking of getting this: https://www.amazon.com/DREVO-84-Key-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit/dp/B01K4GXJMA/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

It has to be 12 inches or less, I have limited space to work with. I'm also looking to spend 40$ or less. Is the KB I linked good? I already have a full sized mechanical KB so I don't need anything fancy, I just need function.

>> No.61904658

whats the story behind it

>> No.61904925

whats with zelios and their retarded naming and prices?

>> No.61904968

link? i only find 35+$

>> No.61905115

It took 5 years to Chineses rip off dsa keycaps. FInally! We did it reddit!

>> No.61905119

When I got my magicforce 108 with Gateron Blues I hated it at first but then I got used to it and now I really like it. Typing on a rubber dome just feels like shit now.

>> No.61905217
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The vendor must've made a mistake or something, though it did get shipped, despite the fact that he could have canceled it.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the whole shipping process is automated or done by another company,

here's the listing, though it's all sold out


>> No.61905800

Where can I buy keycaps?
I'm looking for a 7-shape enter like this
and an extra 1x keycap so I can convert a US keyboard into an European.

>> No.61905871

>tfw buying keyboard with chink knockoff switches that are actually better than real mx browns

>> No.61905954

Fug, cheap and 75% like I'm looking for: >>61904046. But the keycaps on the right side seem non-standard.
A ruse, a brick, some spare parts, what could be it?

>> No.61906036

gateron blues or cherry blues TELL ME WAHT TO GET NOW FFS IM GOING CRAZY OVER HERE

>> No.61906046


>> No.61906052


>> No.61906087

blue alps

>> No.61906099

What about a Drevo gramr with Outemu browns?


>> No.61906103

Buckling spring

>> No.61906135

Gateron is smoother and has a bigger bump

>> No.61906156

>F keys on function

>> No.61906217
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keycaps are going to be non-standard on just about any 75%

>> No.61906235

>so I can convert a US keyboard into an European
Unless you have a custom PCB, you'll have trouble doing that.

>> No.61906308

That seems better.

Yeah, definitely seems this way. How do people go about replacing keycaps? Do smaller keyboards have more similar layouts? Are there stores that allow prices configuration?

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You are at least able to type at a half way decent speed with your fancy smancy mechanical keyboard right anon?

>> No.61907208

Thanks for the reply, yet I've been using it a couple hours now and am starting to like it, especially contrasted against my rubber dome which is right next to it. I'm loving the lessened key travel time. I've always been pounding the keys but I'm already adjusting and typing lighter

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Is that shit mechanical? It looks a lot like a model M but I'm not so sure.
Back sticker is in the next post

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>> No.61907700

rubber dome

>> No.61907726


>> No.61907727

NMB dome with slider.

>> No.61907900

What's up with people who put custom 120-180g springs? Are they trying to make their joints hurt? IIRC, in cycling, dropping cadence below 60 RPM (i.e. pushing against resisting pedals) is a great way to destroy one's knees.

>> No.61908184

What's a good price for a model m in good condition?

>> No.61908207

$70USD - not including shipping

>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type
Haven't tried any. Want them to not be Chinese stuff


>Form factor
60% - 65% 60% with numpad would be really good


>Previous/current keyboards

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>> No.61908259

60 bucks before shipping

>> No.61908273

Was meant to write 65% again not 60 woops

>> No.61908283

Drevo Gramr

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>> No.61908361

Not him, but there are keyboards preserving numpad while getting rid of function keys, aren't there?

>> No.61908398
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Do you mean the number keys? This is a numpad

>> No.61908458

70% PLS

>> No.61908461
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I think he wanted something like this or https://imgur.com/yVDxm2f

>> No.61908474

73% PLS, WILL NT ACEPT +/-1%

>> No.61908480
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Yah like that. Sorry I suffer from the 'tisms

>> No.61908495

What keyboard is that in the imgur post

>> No.61908507

good luck, the 78-key layout is very uncommon

there's been like 4 group buys max that i can remember, and no modern production boards

>> No.61908602

How do zealios, outeumu purples, cherry clears and gateron browns compare to buckling springs tactility-wise?
I own a model m but it's too fucking big so I can't carry it around, looking for something with a similar feel but smaller, can assemble it myself, just want help on the switches.

>> No.61908611

geekhack org/index.php?topic=81693
This one apparently. One of those "group buy" custom things with huge price tag.

>> No.61908793

So, how would you go about replacing 75% keyboard keycaps if they tend to be partially non-standard? Are there stores that allow precise order?

>> No.61908804

buy enjoypbt

>> No.61908911
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Something like this is what you are wanting.
Too bad it's $380

>> No.61908954

Thats not a numpad

>> No.61908994

Why so much for like 10 extra keys. What should I get then. What 60% keyboard should I get?

>> No.61909011

There's an AUCKEY 87 or 88 key going on Amazon for £20. Will it be decent enough for a first time mechanical keyboard?

>> No.61909056

Buckles shit all over every MX type switch.

>> No.61909097

Even the most tactile cherry switches or clones are still extremely poor compared to almost anything else. Clicky Matias are about as close as you can get in a modern non-bucklespring switch.

>> No.61909138

Thanks, I do realize I won't be getting something just like my model M, will look into matias.

>> No.61909204
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Flashed my gh60 Satan and got my aluminum base and plate today, just waiting on my Gateron browns to show up

>> No.61909259

Where can I buy GMK clips?

>> No.61909507
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These things aren't all they're cracked up to be.

>> No.61909554

What's a good cheap long slide pistol with a magazine that carries better than 7 fucking shots?

>> No.61909662

what are they?

>> No.61909742
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I also just ordered this.

Can someone point me in the direction of a grey/white or any sort of classic keyset? I'd be very appreciative. pic related.

I'm new to mech keyboards. I do know that the font on the qisan magicforce caps makes me want to puke. For the price I'm giving it a shot, though.

>> No.61909793 [DELETED] 
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Tai Hao PBT doubleshot lavender


>> No.61909799

What's the point of 60%? You can't be all vimfags, can you?

>> No.61909869


This is the closest I can find. The purple could grow on me.

Is this set any good? Is $30 a fair deal?

>> No.61909879
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Tai Hao PBT doubleshot lavender


>> No.61909880 [DELETED] 

Burt, this is /g/.
What the FUCK is that trip doing there?
You ever going to get a new keycap set? That current set has to be getting boring.

>> No.61909884

Search for keycap sets on aliexpress if you're looking for good and cheap
It all really depends on which profile you like the most but I recommend looking at KBDFans stuff, such as

>> No.61909909

Thanks, I'll give it a browse.

>> No.61910343

From GMKs website

>> No.61910424

They're taiwanese runes actually, so not commie

>> No.61910425

Ducky Mini would be perfect for me if only it didn't have that white case. Poker looks so much better.

Should I buy Ducky? I wish the Poker massdrop wouldn't end so soon

>> No.61910480
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What about the Ducky Air?

>> No.61910492

Is uniqey.net their websight?

>> No.61910497

yes, but they don't have the plate clips yet

>> No.61910498

>still using disposable batteries in the year 2017
Get on the replaceable rechargable battery pack train already Jesus.

>> No.61910585

Can I use it with a cable?

>> No.61910595

Im sure that /mkg/ threads are the "sissyboicock" threads of /b/
Full of authistic birdpersons

>> No.61910619

Glad you joined, I enjoy watching all the faggots get angry with your posts.

>> No.61910635

Forgot to tag you.

>> No.61910643


>> No.61910664

Whats the best lube for stabilizers?

>> No.61910667
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Century Black Queen and Black Pawn

Anyone heard about them? Can't find anything in google and they're pretty common in Japan

>> No.61910668

Yeah, I've read about plate clips, but then only found the pcb ones, which is why I asked.

Fuck, I'm really frustrated by keyboard enthusiast world. At least keycap sizes are standard. But otherwise it's a fucking trash. Looking for DIY, all I can find is either cheap cases for pricey keyboards or cheap PCBs that have no cases. And a liberal use of modifier key sizes for the bottom row everywhere.

Is there a single DIY project which price doesn't go into infinity? Surely between ricers who are ready to wait for their caps for years and edgy gaming chinkshit, there must be a few true neckbeards whose only goal is to create a decent, complete project...

>> No.61910703

Yeah there are too many to name. You just aren't looking hard enough, or you're looking for some retarded layout that no one in their right mind would use.

>> No.61910761

>some retarded layout
TKL or 75% in ANSI?
I know there is a fad for 60% so there is shitton of those. But I want a keyboard that is comfy to use, not wear.

>> No.61910786

On the other hand, I use Bing because I fell for "stop using google" meme and it adds to frustration by hiding the obvious.

>> No.61910961
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Talk me out of getting Filco Minila

>> No.61910975

just got a bag of fresh matias QCs, they seem to feel a little different from the last generation.

please fix your ooze/over-extrusion, try lowering temperature or tweaking your multiplier down a bit.

people who like mechanical keyboards because it lets them buy shit until they have something nobody else could possibly like.

if you're willing to pay out the ass, https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/ for new compact buckling spring boards

making one-off cases is a bitch, molds for plastic are thousands of dollars, machining aluminum or 3D printing plastic is hundreds of dollars. same for weird key sizes. for my custom boards I use layers of laser-cut plastic or standard 60% cases.

>> No.61910989

Do it

>> No.61911040

Just so you know building your own keyboard will always end up costing more then buying a prebuilt one with similar specs. But for basic 75% kits you have the keycool one
If you want a bit more options the XD84 come with plastic or metal cases
For 71 keys you have the NPKC one
For TKL kits you have the ranto pad
or Satan
The Case + Plate is out of stock for some reason, but this one is available

>> No.61911104

>they seem to feel a little different from the last generation.
In a good or bad way?

>> No.61911180

I'm a complete noob when it comes to mechanical keyboards, but someone on geekhack had gotten some samples and said these switches were actually decent.
Anyone tried them? Will I be able to make a board with these? Where are the contact points? Anything I should know before ordering?
Thanks in advance senpais.

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I think the, uh, transitions between the stages in the tactile-ness are a little sharper? I'm going to take some apart and do a more detailed comparison tomorrow. I can say that the contacts seem to be different metal, or just plated differently, from the older ones. This may be part of the changes to reduce chatter.

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But I won't be able to put on a Miami set knock off from Aliexpress

>> No.61911249

Oh those are ML clones. Both Kailh and gateron already have keyboards coming with them

>> No.61911257

>no F keys

in the trash

>> No.61911262

Nice, thank you! The universal TKL case alone set a lot of things in my head straight.

>> No.61911265
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You just have to get creative

>> No.61911333

Sweet. Look forward to reading it.

>> No.61911348

What switches does it use?

>> No.61911500


>> No.61911636
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Is there any keyboard out there that has the multimedia keys/convenience that a Corsair K70 LUX RGB has but isn't as shit?

>> No.61911646

Yeah there are a couple

>> No.61911669

Cool thanks.

Could you list them please? Or just the brands if that's too much trouble?

>> No.61911699

Yeah those chink ones

>> No.61911733

me too thanks

>> No.61911835

no problem glad I can help

>> No.61912242

I'm super dependent on my corsairs volume wheel. The other controls, not so much.

>> No.61912348

get one of these


it's got about equal functionality to the corsair wheel (it has click to mute). adds desk clutter, but beats having no multimedia hotkeys.

>> No.61912374

Anything fully programmable. I'm using an old thing from the 70's and I have <<, >>, Play/Pause, and Volume Up/Down all mapped to keys.

>> No.61912544
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Ducky keyboards have programmable media keys. By default you have volume controls, but since I don't use the numpad I set the rest of them there

>> No.61912687
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I'm looking for a modern keyboard that is like the pcjr's one. I mean with stuff like a dedicated Fn key

>> No.61912813

Most 65% or 75% boards fall into that.

>> No.61913556

Cool, but $27 for a USB potentiometer?

>> No.61914075

Consider, you could buy a good chink board over the K70, then buy that, and still save money.

>> No.61914129

You mean one draws 20 times more power for no good reason and its onboard usb hub doesn't work for shit because it doesn't have enough juice left over.

>> No.61914148

>what are eneloops
As an added bonus they don't fucking explode.

>> No.61914191

>taking the batteries out of your keyboard to charge it
>you now have a useless hunk of plastic until they're done charging unless you bought an extra pair
>spending $50-60 on 2 pairs of batteries and special charger on top of the cost of the keyboard for the privilege of doing this
Yeah that sounds like a great idea, anon!

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You mean a bog standard AA charger usable on any brand of nimh and nicad? Seeing as the batteries don't explode if they get the wrong special snowflake charge.
Also useful in everything from flashlights to remotes, a multimeter, electric pepper mill, my fucking kitchen scale...
And they basically last decades because they don't permanently degrade in capacity just sitting there.
Hell I'm still using the same 16 sanyo-branded eneloop cells and a charger from a pack I got at costco for like $25 eight years ago. They all still retain nearly all of their original capacity.
Pic related. Only one of these batteries still holds a charge.

>> No.61914471

>electric pepper meill
Who the fuck actually owns those these days? What, do you not have a phone and are too lazy to grind pepper yourself?
Wow things that only need their batteries replaced once every few years, truly buying into a $50 ecosystem to save myself from essentially making a one-off purchase of a $5 pack of disposable AAs is a great idea
I've been using an old 9V battery multimeter I inherited from my dad my whole life and in decades of use it has never needed that battery replaced.

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>do you not have a phone
A phone can't do pic related, and the pepper mill is great.
>Wow things that only need their batteries replaced once every few years
With a Harmony 650? That's a good one.
>it has never needed that battery replaced.
In other words you don't use it. Same for weighing ingredients for cooking, I'd wager.

>> No.61914603

>Hamrony 650
>I need to spend more money on fancy expensive batteries so I can use my fancy $90 remote that is not in any way necessary
You could not look like more of a fool right now.

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>> No.61914818

Is this a cheap chink PCB

If anyone else made it they should be laughed out of business

>> No.61914862

It's the MiniVan 40% from mAssdrop
Ended up cutting the side stems off

>> No.61914870
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Why don't Unicomp make M15 ergonomic buckling spring keyboards?

>> No.61914891
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Oh wow it's actually supposed to be like that, even the official product photos on MD show no fixing pin holes for those two switches in the bottom right area. 10/10

>> No.61915012

It was annoying finding out when it's the last switch I put in. I couldn't find any official documentation on it, but came across a few people in the discussion area saying to just chop the switch; which works but still, bit shit.

>> No.61915437

They're still in the works in an ssk. And that had been going on since god knows when. Also not that many people are interested in an m15

>> No.61915499


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