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IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

>New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)

>If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).

>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P SERIES, HP Elitebook (2570p, 8770W, 2170p), and Dell Latitude/Precision (E6430, E6440, E7440) if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Recommended models and mod guide:

>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:

>xsauc buyers guide:

>EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):

>Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):

>> No.61875514

Is it possible put gpu inside thinkpad?

This guy's selling a t530 with a nvidia 5400.
If I buy a t530, can I put other gpu?


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>> No.61875595
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yes get a 1080ti and u will have the best laptop ever,just stick that inside and boom there u go

>> No.61875637

need a laptop for watching anime and browsing 4chan, but I'm poor as fuck. Should I get the x200 or is it a meme?

pls no bully

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>> No.61875711

not a meme i picked mine up for 180 and an extra 100 for the ssd

>> No.61876097

>/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net
this does not exist, may i ask why?

>> No.61876186

I love my T420 <3
I put a chinese pcie msata ssd in it :>
Im told the 1600x900 panel upgrade is garbage... is it true?
I got a caddy for it, even tho i dont even have a drive to put in it... yet.
If i ever need a cpu upgrade i can always get a cheap one from ebay.
This laptop is gonna be my best friend for the next 10 years.

>> No.61876204

Why do any of you buy these 16:9 pieces of trash like X220 or T470 instead of a real Thinkpad like an X61 or a restored glorious T70? It's like you don't even understand why anyone wanted a Thinkpad in the first place and you're just following the maymay like cargo cultists.

>> No.61876221

Is there a way to get a 1600x900 IPS display for the T450? I really want one of these but I'd hate to go for 1080p if I upgrade to IPS because then I'd have to use scaling which would render Linux unusable...

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Will be in the market for a new laptop soon. May wait until Black Friday but could buy now.
Not looking for a large form factor or price point if I can help it; the 11e seems to meet my needs so far. Won't be intended for games but I might find myself playing Doom in bed. A quick skim of customer reviews are mildly concerning. Any experiences with this model?

>> No.61876424

Don't buy it, it's as simple as that. Go on ebay and find any T series or X series that costs the same as this piece of junk and I guarantee you it's going to be better in every regard.

>> No.61876438

>the 1600x900 panel upgrade is garbage
it's garbage in terms of image quality but the 1366x768 screen is too so it's the same garbage but higher resolution

>> No.61876485

because believe it or not, some people need actual processing power and support

>> No.61876531
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Is a 12.5" laptop too small for use as the only computer?

>> No.61876554

depends on what you do.

shitposting and anime, sure.
regular web browsing (facebook, youtube, news), pretty much
anything productive, unlikely.

Get an X series if you like that size but if it's to be your only computer buy a 24" or 27" screen for use at home.

>> No.61876556

just make it 2 inches larger and make your problems go away.

>> No.61876575

that's what my ex-wife said before running off with that tyrone guy... :(
but how was I supposed to do that?

>> No.61876593

dunno... only thing I know it I wanna be 12 inches deep in that pussy

>> No.61876965

Grabbed a T520 to give away as a gift. I've never had a Thinkpad, but I get why they're so popular. This one came with an ssd and a 1080p screen, I'm not sure I'll be able to give it up.
Also, the keyboard light is very handy and the keyboards on these are as good as advertised.

>> No.61877079

you don't really notice once you start use it

>> No.61877328

Is using the expresscard to add a usb 3.0 port on a T420 a terrible idea? Is there a better solution?

>> No.61877351

I think it's a good solution

>> No.61877460

not a meme
before i even started paying attention to this board, i got a job that involves refurbing laptops. I fell in love with thinkpads through experience.

best built mobile machine ever made, i dont give two fucks if you call me a shill either.

>> No.61877475

Get a docking station.

>> No.61877917

I've got a T420 with a quad i7. Should I use it for a hackintosh? I'm tired of Windows and MS tech in general, and I get annoyed at Linux for various reasons.

My question is mostly technical: will there be too many headaches if I try to hackintosh my 420?

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Is the W510 the biggest lemon of the recommended thinkpads?

I got mine a few years ago and I am happy with how it runs but trying to find a reasonably priced replacement OEM battery or 1080p screen seems impossible.

Have I left it too late to try find good spare parts for this machine? It feels like the market has dried up for them

>> No.61878507

>tfw bidding on so many ThinkPads simultaneously that I can't even afford to win them all

>> No.61878730

Get a T70. It even comes with better customer service.

>> No.61878949

Really wanted a T series but none of them have IPS. Is IPS just something that's really wanted for low resolutions?

>> No.61878963

Nevermind I posted this by accident, was looking at recommended T's and didn't see they had IPS screens

>> No.61879005

That being said, I'm having trouble sorting out screens for the T series. I'm following the ktgee guide from OP and I want a T series with a screen that doesn't have that nasty thing where the screen changes colors significantly when you look at it from an angle. Some say TFT, some say TFT IPS, which confuses me because I thought you had to pick either or.

>> No.61879016

No, it's next-next-next levels of easy but you'll need to get a Dell DW1510 compatible wlan card and flash a new bios for the wlan card to work.

The harder part is messing with the VM to make the bootable usb stick.

>> No.61879019

>calling this a thinkpad
What were they thinking?

>> No.61879232

What 1600mHz DDR3L are you guys buying?

>> No.61879317
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Found an R40e in decent condition. Just needs a power supply. Is it worth it, even as a crapbox I play old PC games on?

>> No.61879327

>R series

>> No.61879524

Would you recommend the Thinkpad 13? Or is it a meme?

>> No.61879845

Fuck off shill
Go wait for your touchpad

>> No.61879869

I doubt chinks can do onsite replacements anon.

>> No.61879896

>no trackpoint
Not a thinkpad.
>playing doom
I hope you mean the original

>> No.61879904

No its not if we're talking about the X220 or X230

>> No.61879922

Enjoy anon
You got a good one

>> No.61879961

The only other solution is to get a newer laptop
So yeah an expresscard adapter is a pretty good solution

>> No.61880409
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Messing around with Windows 7 on my T420. I can't get the resolution right at all. At 1600x900, everything is tiny to the point of hurting my eyes or being completely illegible. Lowering the resolution in Windows just makes everything warped and blurry. Artificially enhancing the size of everything by 25% makes everything look cartoonishly huge and some things don't fit on the screen at all.

Anything to be done about this? Is this what everyone meant when they said that these things have shit screens? The picture quality is nice to me, just can't get the size of things right.

Pic is of 100% resolution.

>> No.61880439

>I'd hate to go for 1080p if I upgrade to IPS because then I'd have to use scaling which would render Linux unusable...
What retarded meme is this?

>> No.61880550

Disregard this post, I am completely retarded

>> No.61880642

I have an R61i with an 1680x1050 screen (got it off a broken R61 for 15€), the speakers are much better than you can get e.g. on a X-series, the keyboard is a'rite but the plastics are kinda creaky. I'd recommend this one but not R4x or R5x because no sata - no ssd.

>> No.61880710

What happened anon

>> No.61880921

I need a laptop for college, a 1080p display is kind of necessary if possible, is the L series a meme?

>> No.61880933

Hello OP could you put a direct link to the IRC? E.g. https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=/tpg/


>> No.61880947

and my budget is 600$

>> No.61881133

finally pulled the trigger on a T440s with i5, 8gigs, 250GB SSD and HD+ screen for 350 euros
since i'm not in burgerland where everything is a deal, did i fuck up?

>> No.61881165

It does it's just that it's pretty much dead

>> No.61881348

Kind of but not as much as some people make it out to be
If you're insisting on something new go for it but if you wanna go for best price I'd say get a T530 and build up from there

>> No.61881355

Well Intel is a meme themselves so I wouldn't recommend recommend anything newer than ivy bridge personally

>> No.61881383

Too big

>> No.61881391
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Is a x220 with an i5, 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD worth it for ~250 dollars? In good condition.

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Getting delivered tomorrow, pretty damn excited. i5 with 256Gb SSD, along with 16gb Ram.

What's your routine when you get a new machine /tpg/?

>> No.61881449

I install my linux of choice.

>> No.61881469


I figured that goes without saying, after that I mean.

>> No.61881583

I got a x220T for 130 dollars, same specs

>> No.61881721

>quad core i7
>nvidea giraffics
>great condition
>1 year warranty

What's a good price? 400€?

>> No.61881760

Where do you live? Thinkpads seem to be more expensive here in Sweden (or Europe in general) than they are in the US.

>> No.61881790

Are there any compact chargers for thinkpads? I can live with carrying around my x230 but it's annoying having the big charger

>> No.61881798

65W adapter is big?
How about you stop being a manlet?

>> No.61881813

That's pretty much the lowest they go for here so yeah do it. It's what I paid for mine

Unless you want an X260, there's one up for about $100 more

>> No.61881908

Sweden, actually.

>> No.61882026

1. start up to see if works
2. if yes do the upgrades I want (RAM, SSD mostly)
3. Install Loonix

>> No.61882126

So it's worth it? Will I want to upgrade the screen at some point?

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>mfw manlets struggling to carry their 3lb 12.5" laptop with a 6cell battery and 65w charger
>mfw these people spend money on 4cell batteries because even the 6cell is too heavy for their bitch arms

>> No.61882410

I got pissed off with it (X230) eventually and got an X301. 13.3" is a really nice screen size, especially in 16:10.

>> No.61882622

Name of each in order of taking them out of the bag?

>> No.61882635

You will want an IPS panel, yes

>> No.61882738


I am gonna assume


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>> No.61882814

15" T60

>> No.61883306

and quad i7 dont have any cooling problems, neither do the novideo graphics have any. but they're unusable for gaming (except very light stuff like 2hu, osu and maybe lol/csgo) and under linux (because no video drivers for linux (haha nice pun)). you didnt specify the amount of ram though. with that 1year warranty I'd go for it.

>> No.61883502

It's an auction and I thought 400 was maybe too high of an bid. Shit, how much shoukd I bid?

>> No.61883750

why meme? scaling is shit on linux currently and at native res text and screen elements would be too small

>> No.61883951

I use a 1080p monitor and my font rendering is flawless. I'd show you but I'm on vacation right now and don't have access to my desktop. I even used a 1440p monitor for a while, too, and never had any problems.

Debian testing with awesome wm, btw.

>> No.61883973

>font rendering is flawless
that's not the problem here. Scaling messes up GTK application.

>> No.61884254

Is processor power and usb 3.0 the only benefit of a 430 over a 420?

>> No.61884264

In what way? I'm genuinely curious because I haven't noticed anything.

>> No.61884318

last time I tested it, maybe last december, I had some very sever issues. for example on GTK3 applications the menu bar was completely fucked with all the different options being displayed in the same place only slightly offset. some buttons were hidden behind window borders. stuff like that

>> No.61884452

current price+20 and if someone offers more just go for 400

>> No.61884599

ok, now i see why you don't remove the sticker in the touchpad in the t430

gonna have to look around for a sticker :(

>> No.61884699

Weird. I've never had anything like that happen to me and I use GTK2/3 applications. What distro do you use?

>> No.61884875

tried Debian, Ubuntu and Manjaro. I just wanted to find one that works, I like to make it my own anyways so it didn't really matter where I started. I also tried different DEs though I knew it shouldn't make a difference.

I might test scaling in a virtual machine on my desktop again some time soon though

>> No.61884959

I'll inspect the hell out of it because it's used instead of refurbished. I'll install Ubuntu because there's no Windows key.
Then I'll bring it with me on a 3 day vacation and see if I like the X230's keyboard or not. Then I'll order some upgrades.
The mem/storage is low on what I bought but it has the i5 3360 rather than 3320 so I thought it'd be a neat step up without going for the i7 which were more expensive.

I plan to play some games on it, hopefully Pathologic HD and stuff. I don't know how Wine works so maybe I'll also install my old WinXP disc or find the cheapest Win7/10. I've never had a laptop before so I'm stoked. I can finally use a computer outside...

>> No.61885649

I'm looking for a new IPS display for my x220. Is this a good IPS screen?


>> No.61885982


Thanks, I might go through with it this week if I can figure out how to get an OS image and burn it.

>> No.61886147

You can delete everything after .html, luddite.

>> No.61886253

Just got an X60S for $20 with no hard drive. Did I get a deal?

Going to put an ssd in it.

Is it possible to upgrade the screen?

>> No.61886321

You got a deal there friend...
If I could only get one that cheap. I can't seem to find one below 80€

>> No.61886373

I'm reading through the info in the OP and Thinkpads seem really great, is there a downside? For someone who wants a long lasting laptop for general use they seem perfect. I'll be looking to purchase my second laptop ever soon and I can't find anything wrong with Thinkpads. Also curios why are they so cheap? I got a Chromebook (pls no bully, needed something that had no access to vidya for awhile) for $250 and it seems I could have gotten a MUCH better Thinkpad for that amount.

>> No.61886400

Windows boot manager keeps overwriting GRUB

Wat do?

>> No.61886448

Chromebooks are complete ass I have no idea why someone would even think of buying one.

Sell it and buy a x220 for $100

>> No.61886490

Never bought a laptop before, didn't do enough research/read the wrong websites and made a poor decision. Spent the time I've had it to learn a little though and I don't plan on making the same mistake twice.

>> No.61886508
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Whats the best lightweight thinkpad?

>> No.61886521

>why are they so cheap
They aren't. New Thinkpads are as expensive as any business laptops.

The reason why people report they got them for cheap is because we generally buy old Thinkpads. Seriously, it's only natural that a 5 year old laptop is <$300. The fact that these were bought new in literal truckloads by companies makes them even cheaper. Be prepared for TN panels though.

>> No.61886546

How lightweight? I'd say something like X220 and X230 but these are heavy compared to X1/X1C. However, the latter are junk.

>> No.61886580
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Lighter than the t420

>> No.61886606

if the T420 is your reference, I was mostly right. An X220 or X230 would be good. They are pretty much equally powerful only that the X230's dGPU is superior.

>> No.61886637

I need a laptop for university. Studying software engineering. I have a powerful PC at the house, but I need something to carry around for notes, something that will serve me for the next 2.5 - 3 years.

Will run Arch Linux on it, install PyCharm, QT creator (not for heavy projects). +Some text editor for lectures. Also, size matters, screensize >= 14-Inch, and battery life should be as long as possible, SSD is a plus.

I hope I'm not asking too much, anyway here's potential buy (in used condition): Thinkpad T440.

Please help to decide. Other models/other companies will be considered. A friend of mine also recomended Dell Latitude E6430...

>> No.61886644

Alright, thanks. Would you happen to know what temps I should get on Idle on either an i5 or i7 in this gen?

>> No.61886687

My experience is around 45C - 50C idle on my X230. I have cleaned it but the thermal paste has never been changed so if I did that I'd get better temps I guess.

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Anyone here have any experience with external GPU's? I've got a quad-core W520 that I was looking to Frankenstein with an eGPU.

I know they run at about 70% efficiency, but I'm more than fine just putting games on the lower(est) settings. I just want to play some newer titles like Doom and Wolfenstein 2 at 60 fps, which isn't achievable with the stock GPU.

I've also seen a few people use eGPU's without a second monitor, which I wasn't aware was possible the last time I looked into this. What would the performance difference be between my laptop's monitor, and an external one? I assume that with an external monitor I wouldn't get bottlenecked as hard, but again, I don't know much about this/

Any information/feedback is appreciated.

>> No.61886703

Ahh, good. I was looking for something around that. My t420 used to get 60 c on idle even after changing the cpu, thermal paste and fan. That gen just ran a bit too hot for my liking.

>> No.61886713

Are you using Linux? Because with Linux temps are generally higher than with Windows and Lenovo Power Management software

>> No.61886739

I was using windows

>> No.61886743

Out of all of my thinkpads, x61t is the only one that got physical design right. Tactical placement of dpad on screen, perfect 4:3 boxy symmetry. It's fucking beautiful. Perfect size, perfect weight and heft.

I got and x201t shortly after thinking it would be an upgrade but hideous huge bezel, shiny ass screen, stupid 16:9 is useless in portrait, button/pen/charger placement are shit.

x61 1600x1400 mutant for life.

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>> No.61887205

Why not?

>> No.61887300

If I had enough money to buy 4 thinkpads, I'd custom build a much better computer, or just buy 1 good thinkpad or buy an older thinkpad and replace the part with higher spec parts.

I don't understand why you need 4 computers.

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best docking station for thinkpad t430?

>> No.61887326

the one with the most ports. easy as that nignog

>> No.61887475

will there ever exist a docking station with support for a gpu? that would be the shit

>> No.61887590

I don't think they will ever add official eGPU support. Sales on their workstation level P series would drop significantly. Though the bandwidth of the docking port would probably allow for it. I don't think it has PCIe lanes though.

But like I said, they wouldn't do it. The reason why older models supported eGPU is because they needed an Expresscard slot for companies that wanted to use smartcard as authentication method. That's the most prominent use anyways.

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Collecting is fun and it's always good to have backup machines. I obviously don't take them all with me wherever I go, usually just one or two depending on where I'm going.

There was, back in the T60 to T400 days. Lelnovo dropped it after that for some reason.

>> No.61887770

How much are docking stations?

>> No.61887806

Older ones (T400 for example) go for $5 - $10. Newer ones can go for up to $30. That only goes for used models of course

>> No.61887859

thats beautiful

>> No.61887917

Never used docking stations before, I'm assuming you can add GPUs and HDDs to some?
If so, I think I need a thinkpad.

>> No.61888020

>you can add GPUs and HDDs to some?
GPUs never, HDDs and DVD drives to some
If you want an external GPU you have to get a Thinkpad with and Expresscard slot

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Can you really code efficiently with a 1366x768 resolution?

I don't want to regret my choice

>> No.61888389

>can you really code
no, honestly, no. But on a, let's say 14" screen, you wouldn't have that much of an advantage with 1080 because you'd have to scale the text and UI. I'd say 120ppi (1366x768 @ 12" or 1600x900 @14") is the sweet spot for laptop displays but if you want to scale anything higher goes of course.

>> No.61888430

i can't seem to find 1600x900 @14" with the keyboard i want ( azerty )


>> No.61888451

Then get one with the 900p screen and any other keyboard and replace that later. Spare keyboards are cheap.

>> No.61888529

meh I'm a cheap bastard and i'm also lazy

+ I really don't want to pay for a 60$ keyboard

>> No.61888562

>I'm a cheap bastard
well that's why you want a Thinkpad, right?
>i'm also lazy
Switching the keyboard is no more than 5 screws
>60$ keyboard
holy shit is europe that expensive? a used keyboard shouldn't cost more than $20

>> No.61888571


All the 4x0s run hot.

>> No.61888624

Can't say that. My T460 remains pretty cool and quiet as long as I don't push it to the max

>> No.61888625

>holy shit is europe that expensive?
yeah it is
>well that's why you want a Thinkpad, right?
>Switching the keyboard is no more than 5 screws
i'm panting just thinking about it

does the t420 comes with a backlit keyboard?

>> No.61888687

>My t420 used to get 60 c on idle even after changing the cpu, thermal paste and fan
You did something horribly wrong.

My i7 2640m T420 stays at 55c idle but with the fan turned off and around 43c on a fresh W7 install.

>> No.61889072

Where can I buy a Lenovo-branded T440 9-cell battery?

>> No.61889122

Even the French people I've met hate azerty

>> No.61889149

Best ThinkPad for development/math under $1000?

>> No.61889171


>> No.61889200


>self hating frenchies


I need my accentuations.

>> No.61889217

I bet you could buy individual keys online for cheap and just swap out what you need.

>> No.61889277

That one costs a lot more in my country, you sure?

>> No.61889295

like i said I'm lazy and I don't want to add 60$ dollars to my bill

>> No.61889305

Thinkpad 13 or E470

>> No.61889323


i found something

i'd have to delete this OS asap

>> No.61889333

>more than $1000
dude this is the 2009/2010 model. Even in Europe this shouldn't cost more than 200€.
If your budget is $1000 and you live in a decent first world country you could even get a T450 for well below your maximum

>> No.61889399

>when comparing screens, comparing resolution is more important than comparing aspect ratio
>the whole 16:10 vs 16:9 debate is retarded because a 1600x900 screen is better than a 1440x900 screen even if some people would consider the latter superior because of its aspect ratio.
>the only reason why the debate arose in the first place is because some of the 16:9 screens are a downgrade in terms of vertical resolution (1280x800 was replaced by 1366x768)

>> No.61889401

Lenovo ThinkPad T410 2522? Sells for $1700.

>> No.61889417

the fuck? which fucking country is this? post link! I guess this is a major fucking ripoff dude

>> No.61889476

4:3 is the real master race and widescreen was a mistake

>> No.61889483

This is the only retailer I found. I don't even know, dude.


>> No.61889536

Dude what. Not even my third world shithole at the very bottom of South America has those prices.

Just look around in eBay or something.

>> No.61889546

Used Thinkpads are an ebay-thing. But even if the one you posted is refurbished or something this is just absolutely ridiculous. Is this because all the mudslimes in your country suddenly need computers? Is there like a computer shortage?

>> No.61889566

If you're lazy ThinkPads aren't for you.

>> No.61889580

that's just fucked up. on ebay you'd get a laptop several generations newer for less than half the price

>> No.61889598

so you're saying 1280x1024 is superior to 1920x1080?

>> No.61889614


okay i guess i'll just buy a used macbook and go to reddit

>> No.61889626

It seems like there's not so many retailers that sell them and the price is fucking high everywhere. I will.

If there's any other Swedes, where do you get yours?

>> No.61889635

is 400$ too much for a t450s with 250 ssd and 8gb of Ram?

>> No.61889646

If you can get one for sub-€300 used MacBooks aren't a bad choice in terms of non-upgradeable laptops.

>> No.61889652

I guess not. But I wouldn't get an s-version of any Thinkpad. Not enough power for me.

>> No.61889678

We're probably just uninformed and buy everything. No clue. Also taxes.

>> No.61889679

1280x1024 is 5:4, not 4:3. And 1600x1200 sure is superior.

>> No.61889681

>I wouldn't get an s-version of any Thinkpad. Not enough power for me.

Would you care to elaborate?

>> No.61889687

You're supposed to buy used Thinkpads from sites like ebay, craigslist and the like.

Just look for listings where the laptop doesn't look like shit and you'll be fine, everything inside is replaceable/upgradeable on these laptops.

>t410 in 2017
either go full freedom with c2d thinkpads or *20-*40 series

>> No.61889728

>5:4, not 4:3
yeah yeah, my bad
>1600x1200 sure is superior
but that's my point. You can always upgrade your 16:9 or 16:10 screen to match that vertical resolution. A 1920x1200 screen wouldn't give me disadvantage in terms of vertical space while giving me a huge amount of additional horizontal space to work with

>> No.61889816

But a 15.6" 16:9 laptop is significantly wider than a 15" 4:3 one. It's a different matter for desktop monitors, which are meant to sit on an even wider desk. A laptop sits in your lap, so unless you're terribly overweight then a squarer aspect ratio is more comfortable.

>> No.61889851

With a 4:3 laptop like my old T40 I really have to put my knees together tightly for it not to slip down in between them. It would have to be at leat 15" to be somewhat comfortable.

>> No.61889884

Having more space to both sides gives you more clearance on both sides to move your legs around the way you want

>> No.61889995

>tfw not even chinkpad will get me a leggy gf

>> No.61890122

Need a new laptop for uni. I'm considering the T430. Before I just had a really shitty laptop I've had for years. Thoughts? Should I go for anything else? The T430 seems to do what I want (programming), only "issue" would be the 1600x900 display.

>> No.61890236

x220, x230 or fhd t440/s/p

basically get something with IPS option to avoid eye cancer

>> No.61890343

>fhd t440/s/p
Not him but won't that be a problem on Linux? AFAIK scaling sucks on Linux and reading letters for ants will also give eye cancer.

>> No.61890360

I'm looking to get a tp, which model has the best graphics card? I need one that can run around 1100 mghz for uni

>> No.61890393

>measuring the performance of a GPU only by its clock speed (while not even specifying if this is about memory or GPU clock)
you're lost dude. But if you really need dGPU power there's no way around the P series. However you're shit out of luck if there's no outlet where you're working

>> No.61890402
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>1.1 billion GHz laptop GPU

>> No.61890441

No idea, i don't use Linux.

>> No.61890512

yes, it's gonna be a huge problem with Linux.
1600x900 is 120ppi and that makes for a good text size at native resolution, at least on a laptop that's usually closer to your face than a desktop screen would be

>> No.61890532

>1600x900 is 120ppi
on a 14" screen like on the T430, I forgot to mention

>> No.61891335

From what I've read it helps to think of TFT as TN, basically It's just a type of LCD. Since you want an IPS display, make sure that the seller explicitly states that the display is IPS

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>> No.61891446

try aliexpress

>> No.61891501

I got a r31 for 20 dollars at a thrift store, and I don't have a charger for it yet so I can't say if it runs, but if it does can it do basic browsing on it? How shit is it?

>> No.61891793

>basic browsing
not really. the web has become a bloated mess over the last decade. 4chan might be a thing on this but it wouldn't even be able to play 480p YouTube without stuttering. You could use it as a writing/uploading machine for your minimally formatted conspiracy theory blog though

>> No.61891824
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Why don't they make cool shit like this anymore?

>> No.61891834

because of the "muh thin" homosexual crowd

>> No.61891846

What a shame. It was only 20 dollars so I won't cry over it, I might be able to use a text based browser on it and possibly get some use out of it.
Thanks for the reply though.

>> No.61891925
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I don't think that crowd really cares about ThinkPads. You'd think there'd be a niche for laptops with a day of battery life.

>> No.61891992

Well I didn't say it's not gonna be of any use to you. It would make for a good word processing machine, it could be used to store and access data you don't want to be stored on a machine connected to the Internet or you could set up your own DNS server with it and keep it running 24/7. Just some ideas...

>> No.61891995


Worth? My T420's current battery only lasts about 2H.

>> No.61892013

Mainly drop hinges

>> No.61892014

>1. it's thick and even "businessmen" want their stuff to be sexy now for some reason
>2. they managed to squeeze enough battery life out of a regular 6 cell battery. In my own test the X270 with the 6 cell lasts 12 hours and even then it's easier to carry a second 6 cell instead of using a slice

>> No.61892046

This plus why have thirty different battery options nobody buys when you can just make one huge 72wh battery that's gets the same battery life as >>61891925

>> No.61892052

the same reason they don't make proper docks
the same reason the line has been reduced to plastic macbook clones

the same reason consumer grade garbage started being marketed with Thinkpad

The gooks fucked it all up

>> No.61892145

Yep. afaik there are 3 battery options right now.

3 cell 23Wh
6 cell 48Wh
6 cell 72Wh

The internal 3 cell not included, though being able to hot swap the battery is absolutely awesome if you ask me.
But regardless of the fact that getting those runtimes out of a 6 cell is fantastic, why is there even a 48Wh option? Is this because some kind of retarded US airline policy regarding the size of batteries you're allowed to take on a plane?

>> No.61892198

The 48 one has a smaller bulge I think? Also the airline limit is 100wh

>> No.61892217

OK what I found is that the 72Wh sticks out on the bottom while the 48Wh sticks out on the back.

>> No.61892239
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Which is appearantly a misinformation from some forum.
This is what the batteries look like. Why even buy the 48Wh then?

>> No.61892290

Does anyone make third party battery slices for X220?

>> No.61892585
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this guy's meming I know but it is actually quite easy to do an external GPU setup...

>> No.61892748

>out the back
Wouldn't it block the hinges?

>> No.61892769

Whoops just saw this after posting

>> No.61892770

see >>61892239

>> No.61893191

Boot from Live USB/DVD then chroot into Linux, mount the Windows partition, run os-prober and do grub-update or grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

>> No.61893204

x61 tablet.

>> No.61893322

aliexpress sell dodgy slices, no idea if they do ones for X220s though

>> No.61893488
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What's wrong with this picture?

>> No.61893508

>tfw won t420 for $62
>eBay won't accept my PayPal, my debit card, or even my friend's credit card

>> No.61893536


It's an auction, you're not gonna pay that low of price.

>> No.61893548

Nope, guess again.

>> No.61893735

>trackpad buttons

>> No.61893782

ding ding ding
We have a winner!

>> No.61893788

with those buttons and hw stickers it looks like a 460

>> No.61893837

where would be the best place to get an internal battery replacement for the t440s?

>> No.61894031
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>psychotic tranny sperged out at gnu and caused irreparable damage to libreboot development
>now we'll probably never get libreboot for anything higher than the t/x400
If your system has any proprietary blobs you might as well just use Chrome and sell your fucking soul to Microsoft while you're at it. Why do trannies have a monopoly on open source BIOS? WHY AREN'T US RIGHTWINGERS AND RADICAL CENTRISTS SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS SHIT OURSELVES

>> No.61894072

I've been thinking about getting a T440 for college, is the touchpad really that bad?

>> No.61894086



>> No.61894140

Don't listen to these people, they are just desperate to say anything bad about something that isn't Apple or Dell

>> No.61894173

T440 sucks though

>> No.61894231

So, what would be a better option, T430?

>> No.61894261

Or t420.

>> No.61894283

Yes it fucking is. Even worse if you're used to the previous trackpoint with separated buttons.

t. >>61856079 still waiting for my t450 touchpad

>> No.61894284
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Not him, but I'm trying to figure it out now. You just use the Express Card slot right?

https://egpu.io/forums/expresscard-mpcie-m-2-adapters/nvidia-is-killing-off-mpciengff-m2-egpus-error-43-with-372-90/ Doesn't affect ExpressCard 2.0 slots right?

>> No.61894298

Thanks, I'll take a look at the previous models.

>> No.61894315

I'd still go for it though because that issue is easily solvable by replacing the touchpad and you'll end up with something like >>61893488. Also IPS FHD screen option instead of the TN cancer screens.

>> No.61894473

They want you to look at the older models because they want you to get an older/lesser ThinkPad for them to compare their macbooks to.

>> No.61894874

Hey buddies, my T400 from 2007 with a shitty integrated graphics card is getting screen flickering and I'm afraid it might have a dying motherboard.

What else might it be that I can try fixing?
If it is, my thinkpad is fucked, isn't it?

>> No.61894957

What sleeve should I get for my X1C?

>> No.61895030

the best one.

>> No.61895334


go bare of go home... sleeve are for douches

>> No.61895363

could be screen cable, plug in external monitor if you don't want to open it to check

>> No.61895392

Brilliant idea anon, will try that

>> No.61895533


>> No.61895789

Just bought a T430. What OS should I install? Will be used mainly for school/programming.

>> No.61895897


>> No.61895950

Was thinking about this for school/programming usage it's well within my budget

>> No.61896155

Are there any after market display upgrades for a w500? Is it possible to upgrade this laptop to an ips panel if available in a 30 pin layout at 1920x1200?

>> No.61896219

Are ideapads shit for school/work and some light gaming(Stellaris? Minecraft?)

Looking into the IdeaPad 310, it looks about as good as my old Samsung laptop that runs fine doing this sort of stuff

>> No.61896675

Is an x230 with 8gb ram and 120gb ssd worth it for 320$ CAD, it also says grade A condition

>> No.61896925
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T440p for 400 Euros, y/n? Specs
>256GB SSD
>HD+ display

>> No.61897010

Did anyone here buy the alienware screen for the t420? Thinking of getting it for the better viewing angles and was wondering if it was worth it. Only $50 on fleabay.

>> No.61897032
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sup /tpg/, found picrel lying in the attic, what can it be used for nowadays

>> No.61897066

Does every x230t have broken corners jesus

>> No.61897153

so sad it has a HD+ screen else it would be like a really solid machine with little storage

>> No.61897167

Lmao mine has so probably

>> No.61897584

hi all; recently got my t60; its great, but one thing is that I got it used and it has a companies logo on the splash screen when it starts up; is there any way to change this with my own?

>> No.61897621


>> No.61897646

Yes, i have a cute Illya on my t440p.

Reflash or upgrade the BIOS and put your custom image in the same folder as the BIOS. It had some restrictions for the image format and size but don't remember them right now.

>> No.61897664

Door stop.

>> No.61897699

Anonymous is alive. we are legion.

>> No.61897726

my P50 is literally in the shop because I put m.2's in backwards and it finally has developed problems. It's been about 3 weeks now I assume it's getting a new motherboard but it fucking sucks.

>> No.61897957

What's this GPU like?

>> No.61898118

What exactly does that have to do with thinkpads?

>> No.61898123

Guys I'm thinking of buying the x60. I really like the square aspect ratio. Searched ebay and there's like 4 results wtf. Also can the x60 play 1080p or 4k video? Anything it can't do that you can think of?

>> No.61898156
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Would anyone recommend anything from the W series?
Does the CAD orientated graphics card affect the performance of non cad programs?

>> No.61898236

w520 is cool
w530 too but lesser I/O I believe
cant look it up atm but solid machines with alright screens

>> No.61898260

What's the difference to the T series? Just the graphics?

>> No.61898336

its a workstation/desktop replacement from that time

>> No.61898387


>> No.61898417

Integrated graphics or Nvidia K1000M?

>> No.61898433

Just bought a T60, any advises? Will mainly use it for writing shit and trying stuff on linux. Is the battery life any good on this machine?

>> No.61898442

they have both dedicated and intergrated graphics they can switch between them depending on what they need

>> No.61898765
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I have an X22o tablet right now that I use as a main PC with a dock. I would like a PC that can at least run TF2 well, as well as something with a larger display than the X220. Is a T430 worth the price for the performance upgrade?

>> No.61899605

€450 for a t460, used, in good condition

Steal or nah? First thinkpad I'm buying used

>> No.61899809

I want to buy an x230 with 320GB HDD.
The seller offers to add a M-SATA 256GB Toshiba for €75 more.
Would it be worth it, or can I find something cheaper?

>> No.61899950


anon that's way too much for a t430.

>> No.61899967

Go for it.

>> No.61899972


i am also wondering... i want to do it for my t430 as it has the shitty tn 1366x768. Any anon got it working or planning on doing this mod let us know.

>> No.61899998


how on earth did you put it in backwards?

>> No.61900237

I used a screwdriver and a hammer to level it.

>> No.61900384


You are kidding, right, anon?

>> No.61900403

Good deal.

>> No.61900452

pics of illya pls

>> No.61900566

Thanks anon!

>> No.61900833

You do know you can mod the touchpad right?

>> No.61900851

>trannies are mentally ill
Wow anon you're so smart

>> No.61900864

He's not wrong.

>> No.61900894

Yes but if you aren't completely hamfisted you can swap it out
Go away you retard
Dellfags and applefags aren't smart enough to talk shit about certain thinkpad models
Or newer

>> No.61901059

Does the x230 have onboard hardware diagnostics?

>> No.61901332

I bought an X220 and love it, but I use it mainly for business work (word processing, email, etc.). I'm hoping to bump up the RAM and make it faster (already have an SSD) but I'm not sure how to go about finding RAM for my particular model.

Any tips?

>> No.61901364

Get some RAM off of ebay and you're good to go.

>> No.61901451


Yeah ebay is your best bed anon... don't fear the bay...

>> No.61901520

Found a T430 Intel i5 3320m 2.6Ghz 8Gb Ram 320Gb HDD Win 7 Pro 14.1" HD that seems to be upgradable to 2 yr warranty for $315 ($380 w warranty)

Any good?

>> No.61901540

Sorry that's $315 AUD

>> No.61901605


how much is that in USD? Feels a bit over priced.

>> No.61901646

247.75 US Dollar

>> No.61901662

Also should I bother with warranties? Aren't these things easy to self repair and replace with new parts?

>> No.61901677
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>third world friend needs a laptop
>seen people here complaining about lack of availability and high costs
>check shipping prices from me to third world
>just for shipping, not including any import taxes


>> No.61901740

Fuck dude, I'm sorry to hear that. What niggerclapistan country does your friend live in Anon?

>> No.61901847
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No it's not affected by, by the Nvidia lockout, or no you don't just use expresscards?

Still, with all this uncertainty with using a Nvidia eGPU, wouldn't it be better to just use an AMD one? Or are they somehow worse for eGPU setups?

>> No.61901900

>T420 for $62
>70++ 9 cell for $70
Did I do good?

>> No.61901913

Pretty good price for a 256

>> No.61901933

You can get 840 EVO mSATA's for cheaper off of Ebay

>> No.61901951


>> No.61901973

are there more used hp laptops approved by /tpg/ apart from those in the OP?

>> No.61902097

almost all of the elitebooks are fine

>> No.61902147

where are you going to find 9 inches anon?

>> No.61902170

What about the HP Elitebook 820 G2?

It's not on the buyer guide. Found one with half decent specs.

>> No.61902206

Do all ThinkPads use the same charger?

>> No.61902213

Did she ever post naked pics?

>> No.61902223

no but a lot of them do

>> No.61902237

I would not leave my room if she did.

>> No.61902283


Not bad but I still think you can do better.

>> No.61902298


yeah you don't need warranty... thinkpad are self serviceable and parts are cheap on ebay. easy to repair is one of things why /tpg/ and /g loves thinkpads :)

>> No.61902374


how much does the 840 evo msata go for on ebay?

>> No.61902467

$60-80, you also might have more luck searching for the part number "mz-mte250bw"

>> No.61902471

Egpu io says they're worse with less bandwidth compared to Nvidia
Personally my 1050ti just werks with the exception of a few Lenovo quirks like
>you can't hotplug until the laptop adjusts itself in post (then you can't hotplug with the display already plugged it)
>you can't boot with the display already connected
Though that's due to Lenovo not due to Nvidia

>> No.61902484

There are two types of connectors for the chargers for thinkpads
The barrel connector
And the flat one
They're compatible with themselves but you have to pay attention to wattage

>> No.61902500

>I NEED a laptop to watch cartoons and shitpost
>I'm also very poor

Get your fucking priorities right you retarded cunt.

>> No.61902539
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Anyone know where to buy a right angled female to male power adapter in the UK? I've seen some images around but i'm not sure which are the correct dimensions and where I can get one within the EU

>> No.61902546

Is there some laptop database? I'm looking for some 2-3 years old used laptops in the 500-600 price slot but I need some list to start looking for, a list of all the 2014-2015 laptops

>> No.61902575

Do the X220, X230, and T420 use the same charger?

>> No.61902581

>implying that anime and shitposting can't sustain a human being for a month without food or water

>> No.61902612


>> No.61902615

Perfect, thanks.

>> No.61902626

Instead, get an X230 or T430 and upgrade it with 16gb ram, an SSD, and a 9-cell battery. Probably sub-$400.

>> No.61902630

I highly doubt that if there are 46 watching this item and only 1 left.

>> No.61902663

why are you replying to him though anon

>> No.61902705

I fucked up, my good chum

>> No.61902711

oh okay

>> No.61902785


cheapest i found was $90

>> No.61902979
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>you can't hotplug until the laptop adjusts itself in post (then you can't hotplug with the display already plugged it)
>you can't boot with the display already connected
Can you elaborate on these? Does this mean you can't have something in the express card slot when you turn the thinkpad on? You have to plug it in shortly after it turns itself on?

Also what "adapter" do you have? The EXP GDC Beast is on sale, and with shipping included (which would get to Canada in 7 days), it's less than half the price of a PE4C-EC060A V3.0. I'm pretty tempted to go with that one unless there's a massive glaring issue I'm not aware of.

>> No.61903076


>> No.61903194

Help me pick Thinkpad:

My HP Pavilion g6 from forever ago is fucked and I am looking to buy a new laptop. What I want:
>Enough power to play games like Rimworld when my gf is using my desktop to play sims/do 3D work.
>Good keyboard since I will use it as my main study computer.

Currently looking at L470 and T470. The latter is around 200 euros more expensive. Should I pick the T? Or can you reccomend any other model?

>> No.61903212

thinking of getting a t420 for classes. i'm a 3d student. will the t420 with the nvidia graphics adapter worth the extra money for 3d rendering?

>> No.61903325

>My HP Pavilion g6 from forever ago is fucked and I am looking to buy a new laptop.
Funny that. My HP Pavilion g6 is also fucked and that is the very same reason I am here.

According to the guides you should avoid the L series. I looked at the E470 (which is also not recommended) and it seemed a good replacement fore less than $1200.
But the hinges are shocking apparently. My spidey senses are tingling too saying "don't do it!"

>> No.61903414

Wow! Yours also around 5-6 years old, overly plastic with radeon graphics?

Yeah, I have also looked at the E470, feeling the same after some reading. Will prob get the T470 in the end since it feels most worth it.

>> No.61903460

Both are just outside of my budget.

So I might try to score a cheaper W530. Only issue is that they're 700AUD for me.
It's expensive, but even the guide thinks that's around the right price. I think I'll just do it.

I just need something I can start properly using for business transactions, rather than my piece of shit that likely has viruses on it because I've had it since high school.

>> No.61904085

And yes, my clock stopped working on mine months after I got it.
Recently the keyboard broke. Keeps glitching. Has heat issues.

I bought it for my high school tour of the US in 2011 so it brings back memories. Dreadful Laptop though.

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