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no edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

>> No.61843704
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what makes mechanical keyboards so satisfying to use?

>> No.61843725
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No mush.

Even in browns.

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>memechanical memeboards

>> No.61843777


is this a joke? must be a joke...

>> No.61843870
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Mainstream 96 keys that aren't rubber domes when?

>> No.61843910

Analog optical switch keyboards when? Like wooting one, but nicer, and cheaper.

>> No.61843925
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I don't joke nice trips.

>> No.61843930


>> No.61843949

They've been here since the 90s. No body uses them since they aren't very good. Also the wooting isn't actually analog

>> No.61843961


>> No.61843969
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The sound / feeling when you type.

>> No.61843990


>> No.61844019

How are you, anon?

>> No.61844030

Thanks. I really like that layout.

>> No.61844067
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What I love about being allowed to use my Model M at work is that I can fucking type away to draw out people trying to knock, and ask me stupid fucking questions.
>Sorry, cant hear ya
and the smug superiority

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As far as 96 key keyboards go that one is my favorite simply for the case. The RS96 is pretty close, but it doesn't have the cut outs for the RGB underglow, unless you pay double the price. The ZZ96 is also pretty good, but I don't like the back of the case.

>> No.61844131


Race 3 is decent if you're fine with DSA profile keycaps, and of course there's the problem with the non-standard esc and del key. If you can get past that, it's a decent keyboard. I usually recommend Cherry profile, so I think boards like the Tada68 and KBD75 are better.

>> No.61844155

What? All RS96's have RGB underglow. The standard case just has a frosted translucent acrylic sheet all along the bottom, while the deluxe case limits it to the back and part of the sides.

>> No.61844163

Which 60% is the best: Filco, Ducky, Century, other?

>> No.61844166

Should I replace my POM with PBT?

>> No.61844320
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Post alps

>> No.61844350

Why are all mechanical keyboards look so bland? Why don't they make edgy looking keyboards with mechanical switches? I don't want to use a boring keyboard.

>> No.61844363

Buy a razer faggot

>> No.61844367

>Why don't they make edgy looking keyboards with mechanical switches
Have you even tried looking for this?
Because plenty exist.

>> No.61844389

RGB alone is not edgy at all. I'm talking about something like the Ravcore Valvravn.

>> No.61844410

>Ravcore Valvravn
Go to amazon and just search "mechanical keyboard"
You will find plenty like this.

>> No.61844415

You have awful aesthetic sense

Anyway, this close enough?

>> No.61844444
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How is that close? It has a slight slated hand holder and that's it.
I also admit I have terrible aesthetic sense, that wasn't the point.

Please show me something with this design. I dare you. It's a fucking battleaxe.

>> No.61844540

What a waste of quints.
I'm going to amazon right now to search "mechanical keyboard" like I said.

>> No.61844621

>there are people who think that looks good
i can't even muster a witty reply i'm honestly at a loss for words

>> No.61844637
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Me again >>61844540
Look at all this shit I found.

>> No.61844638
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Masterkeys Pro M

>> No.61845005

Now that's what I'm talking about! That Aula one is beautiful. Thanks a lot.

>> No.61845017

Remember, people who play twitch shooters are literally giving themselves brain damage by neglecting the critical thinking areas of the brain to an excessive degree, it only makes sense they'd lose any sense of aesthetics too.

>> No.61845057

this theory is probably bullshit but wow does it make sense

>> No.61845077

There is only one study on it thus far, but the conclusion is sound enough. The human brain really is a use it or lose it situation.

>> No.61845100

>The human brain really is a use it or lose it situation.
i post on 4chan so i can confirm

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>tfw used to be naturally talented and intelligent
>now a lethargic depressed mess with severe memory issues
This is a thread about keyboards, let's get back on topic haha


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>> No.61845450

Previous >>61820418

>> No.61845491

Find me the most expensive keyboard and i will buy it

>> No.61845529

Yeah... Sure thing.
Now, I'll brb, I need to fucking purge my search history so Amazon never shows me this shit again.
Isn't pom supposed to be better than PBT?

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>not full ANSI

>> No.61845708

How are bluetooth keyboards when it comes to input lag?

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>> No.61846074

it's fine

>> No.61846125

You have godawful taste in music, m8. If it can even be called that.

>> No.61846196

Lewd? They peeled off her fucking skin, man!

>> No.61846256

>Cherry Mx brown

>> No.61846414

How do Cherry Silver switches feel? Do they actually feel shallow when you're using them or just if you compare them to a standard key in the moment?

>> No.61848155

I currently have a Pok3r but I'm in need of a keyboard with dedicated arrow keys.

Is the Tada/Saber68 good? I'm coming from Cherry blues, are Gateron blues better or the same? Should I go for MOD switches?

Help me Anon...

>> No.61848247

the way it looks

>> No.61848383

about to pull the trigger, lads

>> No.61848394

Silly question but is it safe to carry my mechanical keyboard in my bag for transportation? I don't have any hard case and I don't know if the keys could be damaged if it's just inside the bag, though there are no hard objects that it could bump against.

>> No.61848670

That Russian one with OLED screens on every key

>> No.61848699

Tada is great. Gat blues are great also, but apparently wobblier than cherry.

MODs are a meme, just get gat browns (unless you REALLY want meme tactility, but if you've been using cherry blues you probably don't). Yes, gateron browns are actually properly tactile, like a blue without the click, unlike cherry's piece of shit.

>> No.61848992 [DELETED] 

>this nigger always posting pictures of his pristine keycaps and his pristing guns

Bro, do you even type, or shoot?

>> No.61849009

>this nigger always posting pictures of his pristine keycaps and his pristine guns

Bro, do you even type, or shoot?

>> No.61849115

>mechanicalkeyboars dot com
>switches ratings (considering only those with more than a few dozen ratings)
>gaming: cherry red, cherry brown
>typing: buckling spring, cherry blue
>universal: cherry brown, cherry blue

Why the distinction between typing and gaming? What do they even mean with "gaming"?

What makes the blue worse than browns for gaming, but better for typing?

The brown switches seem the most appreciated, but I tried them and they feel like there's sand between the slider and the casing. Do blue feel the same?

>> No.61849148

>Why the distinction between typing and gaming? What do they even mean with "gaming"?
If you mental age is above 15 vs under 15.

>> No.61849171

this thread should be pinned

>> No.61849195

So, i bought a Ducky One Cherry Red Switch for around 80 US dollars.

>> No.61849211
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Do you want a sticker?

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>> No.61849219

You misspelled pruned.

>> No.61849267

I want a filco majestouch with cherry speed silver.

>> No.61849364

Fine. What about the rest?

>> No.61849405

What is your mental age?

>> No.61849478

can you eat that?

>> No.61849506
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Fake enjoyPBT is now on sale.

>> No.61849508
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What kind of keyboard would a young Donald Trump use?

>> No.61849538

An IBM 5110

>> No.61849639

he doesn't use a computer. clinton could of learned a few things

>> No.61849679

Are you sure it's not just actual enjoypbt?

>> No.61849696

Are Cherry MX Brown switches a meme? I don't want a clicky noise but I want a nice tactile bump

>> No.61849766

Usually when people talk about a switch for gaming they want linear switches so their key presses are as fast and accurate as possible, which is also why stuff like speed switches exist. I've heard people have issues with blues sort of registering incorrectly when people try to quickly actuate a key twice.
Blues are supposed to be better for typing because of all the feedback they provide, both auditory and physically. I don't really think it makes a difference.

MX Browns are also confirmed awful, the bump is too small and they feel like dirty linears. If you want tactile, try MX Clears or MODs. If you want smooth try Gateron Clear or Outemu Purple. If you want both prepare to drop a lot of money on Zealios or spend some time with lube.

>> No.61849768

If you want a tactile bump then cherry mx browns are exactly what you don't need. Get Gateron browns or Cherry clears

>> No.61849817

have you seen the new kailh switches? they look promising and very stable

>> No.61849820


>> No.61849878

Enough to not fall for shit marketing targeted at underages. I'm just trying to figure out what I should buy on the basis of actual value per price.

Fuck, all the keyboards I find on amazon are gaming shit marketed at gaymers, and nothing inside EU seems to have switches that are not Cherry MX Brown or Blue, or even Red. I've found a few with Topre, but fuck me those things are more expensive than half my PC.

>> No.61849907

I was debating cherry clears, why not them? I thought they had no sound either

>> No.61849923
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>Ducky One non backlit with greens is still out of stock

>> No.61849963

Check European resellers
MX Browns suck get clears or Gateron browns

>> No.61850091

No idea. Doesn't POM feel different than PBT? Like abs but without the shine

>> No.61850155

why do you not like browns? because of how easy they are to push?

>> No.61850176

How do you inaccurately press a key

>> No.61850217

Because they feel like shit, they aren't smooth like butter, and they aren't tactile at all. The whole "Jack of all trades" is bullshit since it sucks as a whole. Even me old Logitech k120 felt better to type on then browns

>> No.61850231

good luck getting any of these fucks to properly explain why they don't like browns..

>> No.61850275


>> No.61850290
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The thing is in moderation. Code too much and one day you will be in the run from CIA niggers. The true way is to play twitch shooters to hone reflexes and quick thinking, write code to improve logic and problem solving and socialize on 4chan to expand your knowledge and satisfy social needs.

>> No.61850301


Opinions please. I have same issue

>> No.61850319


>socialize on 4chan

holy shit this is the worst idea ever

>> No.61850323

a couple of days ago i made a post whining about the corsair strafe. corsair came though and provided info on fixing the problem. i still feel like i want to hop on a ducky shine 6 with reds. should i? i game a lot. almost too much. i do some programming on the side.

Will blue fuck me in games where i have to repeatedly press a key very fast?

>> No.61850349

He meant stuff that require quick multiple presses. It can be a problem since switch is activated midway and tactile bump is felt before it. So it might be taps on a key that is defacto held or released.

>> No.61850350

so it all basically boils down to "muh feelans" and no objective measure. Browns have a soft d tent feeling to them but they hardly feel terrible to type with.

>> No.61850363

Got an aukey kmg3 for my first mechanical keyboard. Howd I do?

>> No.61850372

If you play rhythm games then maybe.If you think mechanical keyboard will make you a better gaymer or typist then you fell for the placebo. With cherry blues double tapping isn't that much of an issue since you can still actuate the switch again before the slider has returned to its original position. People like reds for double tapping since you can hover around the actuation point and quickly move up and down

>> No.61850394

what do you mean by soft d tent feeling?? Thinking about grabbing a cherry mx brown ducky one

>> No.61850399

>machanical keyboards
>basically boils down to "muh feelans"
Yeah that's literally the whole point.

>> No.61850415

So, is anyone planning to get Wooting one?
I'd seriously consider it IF they used black switches or something even stiffer. Red seems too soft for precise analog input, and non-linear blue one just doesn't fit the idea of smooth analog control
Unless their version of blue and red translate to something different

>> No.61850420

just spring swap

>> No.61850430

any real argument about switches here are subjective claims, overall arguments are always going to be about personal experience, whether they prefer a heavier switch, or prefer a clicky or tactiler/linear switch, it always boils down to how someone feels about it. same way with anything else really, readig reviews "based on personal experience. the only realy "objective argument" here potentially is how they're literally the lightest cherry switch.

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Are you retarded?

>> No.61850482

i know a keyboard wont make me a better anything. i also know that typing on membranes make my fingers hurt, and that i could have done a lot better than a strafe as far as spending money on a mech board. dont assume my reasoning for getting a mech keyboard. the most i care about is not using this corsair board anymore because merely looking at it pisses me off.

>> No.61850503
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>membranes make your fingers hurt

>> No.61850526

so why are browns consistently picked on over other switches?

>> No.61850534

Are there even any objective measurements of a switch? You could say that Browns are worse then Clears due to the 30g lighter force, but then you go right back to tumblr tier arguments about how light switches don't feel good.

>> No.61850580

i have had nothing but bad experiences after extended gaming/typing on those cheap 20 dollar logitechs and the boards available on campus. end up with sore fingers, especially my left thumb and middle fingers, something i dont experience while using my strafe.

>> No.61850608

can you guys stop being autistic for just a sec and tell me whether to get a brown or clear switch? clear switches aren't easy to find so I think i will go with brown then swap them with clear in the future if i want

>> No.61850613

Because they're the best

>> No.61850622

its hard to explain. d tent is a /toy/ term. those kinds of ratchet joints that dont feel snappy or clicky, but rather "bassy" bumps. its ALMOST imperceptible but its there.

>> No.61850638

because people prefer other switches to it. I honestly prefer MX Greens myself but I never really liked the tactility of Browns because it doesn't feel as good in my opinion to say Black Alps, on top of that it's just a light switch and I constantly hit the wrong key when typing because I'm used to a heavier switch. I have nothing really against others using browns but it's just not something I would use myself.

>> No.61850668

if theres about as many switches per preference, it makes no sense that people shit on browns more often than other switches.

>> No.61850673

There is measurable stuff like activation force, force graphs over travel distance (i.e. when tactile bump felt, if there is any, and when switch is activated). But in practice memechanical keyboards are all about how they feel under your fingers, how good they sounds and how they look.

Browns are one of the most popular switches.

>> No.61850701


so what switch would be silent but still have a good tactile bump you can feel?

btw coming from mac chiclet keyboard

>> No.61850707

What kind of logic is that? Unless you actually think there are the same number of people who like scat as there are who like big breasts

>> No.61850720

a brand new, regular rubberdome keyboard

>> No.61850722

Matias Quiet click. More tactile then browns, while also much quieter producing about the same level of noise as a rubber dome since they are dampened on both the up and down stroke

>> No.61850724
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people buy into the marketing that they're good for typing and for gaming
and that reds are only good for gaming, and blues are only good for typing

>> No.61850728

here you go

>> No.61850740

Unless you get PCB mounted switches replacing a single switch will require you to desolder the whole entire keyboard.

>> No.61850741

clickity: blue, green
no clicki: clear

>> No.61850756

So I got this with a bron mx switch, I have a feeling /g/ will hate me for it

I like it so far, the browns are pretty comfy desu


>> No.61850768

you're comparing two vastly different things there m8. this is breast size and shape comparison. scat would be membrane.

>> No.61850776

no scat would be browns

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>scat would be browns

>> No.61850802

I hope you didn't pay more then 100 bucks for that. The biggest problem with corsair keyboard is that they are over priced compared to the competition.

>> No.61850803

Not much of a selection..maybe ill just wait it out

>> No.61850822

awesome, getting a mech keyboard doesn't seem worth it at this point lmao

>> No.61850826
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Dutchfag here,

Where the fuck does one get mechanical keyboards from this shithole? I'm mostly looking for topre, but advice on any kind of mech is welcome.

>> No.61850846

don't buy topre, it's just a shit meme

>> No.61850852

and bad software.

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>> No.61850916

>Dutchfag here
t. muhammad

>> No.61850923

buy topre, it's the best meme

>> No.61850933

here's your (you) tripfag now fuck off

>> No.61850935

I'm using MX Browns, I'd want something quieter. While Alps/Matias are interesting, international order might be beyond budget. Romer-G sounds promising, but it's hardly talked about - I would like to hear an opinion of somebody who used them for more than a year.

>> No.61850975

from OP
If you want Topre but there isn't any, get Razer MEcha-MEmbrane. No idea how they compare :^)

>> No.61850979

Clears seem like the best alternative but i can only find 60% size which I dont want

>> No.61851060
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Post custom cable sleeves.

Pic related. It's what I'm going to use for my custom cable.

>> No.61851202

Just get a full size Ducky and call it a day

>> No.61851288

theres literally nothing bigger than 60% for clears right now

>> No.61851293

Where did you get these keycaps?
I'm searching for keycaps that are spherical like yours

>> No.61851315

Yes there are. Check again

>> No.61851331


>> No.61851340

there are zero ducky keyboards in stock with clear cherry mx switches. i would of already bought it. they have them available to preorder for later this month which i don't want to do

>> No.61851360

there are 2 KBParadise tkl keyboards w/ clears that i don't like

>> No.61851364

then get the KBP ones

>> No.61851482

So the Model M has 2kro. Does this mean I won't be able to input commands with three keys. For example, Alt+Shift+q?

>> No.61851486

Thanks, but man, why are keycaps in general so expensive? My keyboard nearly cost that much

>> No.61851503

modifiers don't count towards the limit, and the 2kro simply means you can't hold three keys on three different traces at the same time. If you look at the matrix you can see the different lines laid out, but you can hold down as many as you want on that line

>> No.61851522
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well the keyboard pictured (ZZ96) costs $350 and that doesn't include switches or keycaps. Niche products simply cost more, if you want something cheaper wait for a group buy.

>> No.61851537

OK perfect, and the generally recommended model is 1391401? Or is there a superior one

>> No.61851590

the older you get the better the build quality

>> No.61851618

I got a couple used Dell AT101W's at a thrift store with black alps
am I cool yet guys

>> No.61851646

come back when you get a gold badge omni key with complicated blues

>> No.61851658

How clean is it?
Do the switches feel like scratchy shit?

>> No.61851692

very clean actually, the cable had a little bit of black sticky shit on them, but thats cleaned now. the switches on both feel pretty smooth.

>> No.61851694

><- BackSpace

>> No.61852064
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Is this keyboard good? They say it's cherry red. It's just for typing, just wanted to know if DSI is a good brand.

>> No.61852153

>that massive return key on an ansi keyboard`

>> No.61852343
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oooh mad af

>big ass enter
>1u backspace
objectively terrible

>> No.61852377

>literally just an overengineered membrane keyboard
>"""""mechanical""""" switch

>> No.61852385

Any good keyboard for left handed people?

>> No.61852396
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you might understand if you had one

>> No.61852402

a 40%

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a separate numpad?

>> No.61852434
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If you want to meme it up at least use the right terms. Its a rubber dome, not a membrane

>> No.61852440

I've used an HHKB2 for a couple weeks sometime back in march, didn't feel anything particularly notable about it when typing other than the fact that it made mechfags rage.

>> No.61852463
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no matter what i use i always go back to it

>> No.61852464

every time it's this same reply.
stay mad, toprefag

>> No.61852549

I disagree.
I returned my hhkb when I tried it about a year ago.
Alps and my model M feel significantly better imo.

>> No.61852947

So there's literally not a tkl mechanical keyboard with clear cherry mx switches to buy anywhere?


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>> No.61853062

build one yourself lmao

>> No.61853064

Yes there is

>> No.61853086

KBP and WASD has some. Or if you can wait two weeks you can pre order a ducky

>> No.61853089

wasd doesn't have any 87-key models with cherry clear

if i only knew how

please enlighten me, other than the KBP one

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Or... people try different switches and see firsthand that MX brown is the best all-arounder for people who value quietness.

It's hilarious to hear squiddies talk over in game voice, their MX blues snapping like staccato thunder claps, echoing through their room so loudly you can actually hear the green LEDs. MOM SO COOL TAKKATAKKATAKAKA MOM

This is of course true, and the other MX switch types have valid uses, but for most people MX brown is the best compromise of feel, noise and weight. The people saying hurr sandpaper its literally like typing on molasses i can literally feel grains of literal sand in literality are just meming.

Can always build.

>> No.61853132

>Can always build.
wouldn't know where to start man

>> No.61853148
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Handwire, or shell out a fuckton for a TKL PCB.

>> No.61853240

whats the best site to get parts?

>> No.61853298

Depends on what kind of parts. Aliexpress should have you covered for almost everything, but I don't think I've ever seen a chink tkl pcb

>> No.61853309

I dont mind buying more expensive shit. just surprised there are no clear cherry tkl keyboards out there

>> No.61853409

The KUL-ES87 comes in clears, as does the WASD CODE, as do the other WASD boards.

>> No.61853584

yeah none of those are in stock

>> No.61853592

where are you looking?

>> No.61853647

mechanicalkeyboards.com & wasd website

>> No.61853664

>i can literally feel grains of literal sand in literality are just meming
I had the chance to try MX Brown switches and the tactile feedback was literally lost while typing fast. however when pushing keys slowly the tactile feedback was more akin to the key not running smoothly, like there was dirt inside them, rather than an actual force peak.

I know this is a totally personal opinion, but I had the same tactile experience while slowly turning the wheel of my skates: dirt in the ball bearings.

>> No.61853733

I can only get so hard..

>> No.61853899
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Time to build your own I guess

You can join the /mkg/ telegram group


I've got plenty of experience building keyboards, but giving people extensive advice over 4chan is a pain

>> No.61854063

now im seriously debating just ordering the ducky one tkl w/ clear cherry and waiting the 10 days

>> No.61854134
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Build one yourself anon, it's fun. Fun!

>> No.61854243

it seems like such a process between ordering all the correct parts and soldering all the switches. No doubt it would probably be fun but its time consuming. The biggest thing holding me back is im still not 100% sure what switch i even like so i dont want to commit money AND time to something idk if i will even like.

>> No.61854269

Sup /mkg/, I have a rosewill rk9000 I bought 3 years ago. The mini usb port on it has started to fail on it (I'm not rough with it or anything) causing disconnects when I'm typing, playing games, or just whenever I move it a bit. The issue is only getting worse. Apparently it's a common as hell issue with this keyboard due to bad soldering on the port. I don't know anything about soldering so I can't judge it for myself, but I figured it would be a lot easier and cheaper to just replace the port on it rather than buying a new keyboard. How hard is it to solder a new port onto it? Is it easy enough for a beginner?

>> No.61854294
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>best all-arounder for people who value quietness
that would be blacks


>> No.61854524

Get a switch tester from amazon, then return it.

>> No.61854573

>MX brown is the best all-arounder for people who value quietness.

More like fucking Matias quiet switches. MX Brown a shit and appropriately colored.

>> No.61854615
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I’m in too deep

>> No.61854626

>He actually bought that green alps turd

>> No.61854647

It is a fucking steal though

$30, great layout, conversion is simple, and the caps are unlike anything you can get nowadays let alone for $30 on a functioning keyboard

The switches are quite good linears as well, IDK what you’re talking about

>> No.61854652

>too deep
Not deep enough*
What switches do all those have?

>> No.61854656

If you have reasonable equipment (like not a $5 ratshack iron that can't heat up a ground pin) soldering is stupidly easy. Apply flux, make metal parts hot and then feed them solder. Solder will flow right on to the parts if they're hot enough. It's ready to fuck and wants all up on that shit.

>> No.61854702

Filco has MX Silver with Gateron Clear springs (~30g)
Keypad has stock MX blacks
Black 60% has MX Clears with some spring swap, I think they’re close to stock weight
AMJ40 has Kailh Bronze
Silver 60% has MX Silent with ~90g springs and a ~120g spring for the space bar
IBM board has old‐style green ALPS

>> No.61854723

What do you guys think of the Poker 3 RGB, was thinking about switching to the blue switch one from my Cherry MX Board 3 with reds

>> No.61854756


>> No.61854763

are those filco doubleshots in JIS?

>> No.61854790

I mean the rgb one is the same price as the non-rgb one for me. I guess what I'm asking is if the poker 3 is a good keyboard, rgb or not

>> No.61854794

Can confirm, soldering is pretty fun.
Desoldering though, not so much.

>> No.61854824


let me buy that black keyboard with mx clears anon, ill pay stock
>tfw no tkl mx clear keyboards anywhere

>> No.61854928

Just don't fuck up... Ever...

>> No.61855000


It was extremely expensive, also note the odd layout

>> No.61855006

If the PCB you're using has a proper solder mask, it's pretty hard to royally fuck up.

>> No.61855045


Anyone here got experience with this set in particular?

>> No.61855054

And in which brick and mortar store might one buy Matias quiets?

>> No.61855100

The RGB version is made by a different company and has worse build quality.

>> No.61855119
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Yodabashi Kamera in Akiba has some.

>> No.61855157

They seem to both be from vortex?

>> No.61855160

I know my state has one, but no one cares for it in tennessee

>> No.61855180

Vortex isn't the OEM. Its done by two different companies

>> No.61855200

NCIX and Memory Express.

>> No.61855219

So will the rgb version be an improvement from the cherry mx board, because I've been looking for a 60% keyboard with back lighting (hopefully rgb) to replace my current keyboard

>> No.61855270

Microcenter carries anything as long as you request it. Some reddit cucks got the one in my area to carry topre keyboards

>> No.61855277

They feel like some spilled sand on your keyboard

>> No.61855292

Get the non rgb one since its better built

>> No.61855313

What pricepoint for entry level soldering irons would you consider decent? Like I said I have no experience so I don't own one. There are some starter kits on amazon for around 15-20 with good reviews but I don't know if that's still cheapo tier.

>> No.61855341

You don't even have to desolder the port, all you have to do is fix the solder joints. There's plenty of good reasons to get a nice soldering iron, but for something like that literally any piece of metal that gets hot will work.

>> No.61855370
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>says "Where the fuck does one get mechanical keyboards from this shithole?"
>Wants rubber dome

>> No.61855415

Candykeys.com (located in Germany so no import duties within the EU) if Alternate's and Azerty's selections don't satisfy.

Or, you know, your chinkshit site of choice.

>> No.61855463

Switch preference is totally subjective bullshit. You think that you like browns because they are "the best all-rounder", but in reality you just happened to like them and now trying to invent justifications for that.

Like people who don't like browns often say that browns are shit at everything and are the worst switch.

This shit literally doesn't matter at all. I thought I'd like browns before getting my first mech. Upon actually trying different keyboards in real life, I discovered that I dislike tactile feedback in all cherry-like switches, and out of them I like linears the most. It's not because they are good for gaming or fastest in general, I just happened to like using them more. Tactile feedback just annoys me and gets in the way.

So use whatever you like, just don't pretend there are objective reasons for it.

>> No.61855524

See if mykeyboard.eu has anything you like. I bought my race 3 there.

>> No.61855664
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how do I get out of the nightmare that is razershit? this gamer green is an eyesore

>> No.61855837

Depends on what board you got.

>> No.61855860
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pok3r i got a while ago AMA

>> No.61856130

How is it?

>> No.61856166

You should write up a pastebin. Something that could be included in the OP pasta, and if questions arise updated or FAQ added.

It didn't even occur to me to build my own - I was looking for w/e is widely available just to toy myself, my current keyboard works alright - but now it seems like it would be an interesting DIY project.

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I'll think about it, but I feel like given all the options one has when it comes to building a keyboard, and all the questions that might arise, a simple pastebin can't hold a candle to person-to-person advice.

Well, maybe if it's written and explained well. Last time I wrote a guide to do something was nearly two years ago and on a completely different subject, but I'll think about it.

>> No.61856358

Yihua 908 is pretty great for how cheap it is. Can come in handy for any future projects as well.

>> No.61856379

give me ONE reason not to buy a varmilo va69m with mx blues

>> No.61856410
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It's not a Filco

>> No.61856419

You'll get cancer and die.

>> No.61856422

Low resistance but distinct feedback to let you know you successfully pressed each key.

>> No.61856445

bought ducky one tkl non backlit for $59, good buy or bad buy?

>> No.61856472

Pretty good, Ducky boards are nice.

>> No.61856502

Is that inverted? Wtf?

>> No.61856518

glad to hear since ducky is one those chink clone.

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>> No.61856701

im about to cop these caps on massdrop

what board do you have em on?

>> No.61856725
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Any Miami Bros here?

>> No.61856860

Thanks, that would be nice. The problem with chats and threads is that conversations are lost in time.

>> No.61856960
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>Aukey kmg3
>Outemu Switches

>> No.61857017

I've seen this approach in some A4Tech Bloody keyboard. Seems like a good idea: main keys are closer to the mouse pad, numpad is still available - and might actually become useful in games, 17 keys close to WASD.

>> No.61857042

majestouch cherry oem pattern

>> No.61857077

Short left shift. Which you should press btw.

>> No.61857084
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one of the datamancer abominations.

Or, if it doesn't have to be mechanical, this:

>> No.61857141

What keycaps are on the black one with MX Clears? The shape and colour combination are giving me an erection.

>> No.61857150

I've used a weller wp25 for years for all my soldering needs. Works fine for lead based solder. I think I paid 20-30 leafbucks.

>> No.61857261

hhkb professional hg japan

Good luck



If you want to know why the price is rape, to make a very long story medium‐length, the manufacturer gave exclusive rights to the guy who ““““designed”””” this set (literally another guy thought of the idea of applying Solarized to this keycap profile and then said go for it) and he just sat on the IP for two or three years after the first sale (because he is a retard who takes literal years to ship) while the mechanical keyboard community blew up and the price jumped several hundred percent

He then permitted Originative (who price gouges) to do a sale but instead of doing a group buy and interest check he made pointless and irritating but minor changes and bought 500 sets (that, at least, is understandable since the lead time for these is almost a year) and slapped a fucking egregious price on it

>> No.61857333
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Waifu goes on every key.

>> No.61857554

What's wrong with it? I was thinking of buying it myself.

>> No.61857580

How did you make the green alps one usable on a modern pc? Do you just need to buy an adapter?

>> No.61857684

You can buy an adapter (which I did) which is non‐invasive and easy and lets you keep the long, thick cord it comes with or you can do a mod inside the case with a Teensy which has the advantage of not requiring you to order an expensive converter from Japan for like $60

>> No.61857807

Do modern magnetic switches exist?

Is there interchangeability between switch families for PCB? Or is it down to Cherry MX ↔ its clones, Alps ↔ Matias, etc?

>> No.61857833

If only there was some kind of brand writen on it

>> No.61857844

Some people design their PCBs so either Alps or MX can be used.

>> No.61857894

Ace Pad Tech on alibaba makes modern hall effect keyboards. QC is reportedly not fantastic though.

>> No.61857950

What adapter did you buy?

>> No.61857995

geekhack DOT org/index.php?topic=54706.0

You just PM him and order it, he ships fairly quickly

He even has a website for programming so you don’t have to fuck around with TMK yourself unless you want macros

>> No.61858000

Post pics when you do.

>> No.61858025

Sorry, I meant email not PM

it’s been a while

See /index.php?topic=72052.0

>> No.61858060

Thanks man

>> No.61858512
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What could it be?

>> No.61858585
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Oh fugg :-DDD

>> No.61858644
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Fuck you guys were right these chink caps are thin as fuck

>> No.61858654

Looking at stores online I haven't been able to find a keyboard that completely satisfies me. I though I could do like with my current PC and assemble it myself. How much would it cost me to build my own keyboard? Keep in mind every time I have to buy from China (or the US) I would have to pay 22% VAT on the grand total of product+shipping of import fees.

>> No.61858839
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Is it good?

>> No.61858854

As good as rubber domes get

>> No.61858895

Depends on what you want. Something like a GH60 can be built for ~70€

>> No.61858907

Fug, building project coming up!

>> No.61858917

Still waiting on the aluminum case, plate, and Gateron browns. Hopefully those come in early next week

>> No.61858927

I'd like a 10 keyless and I'm thinking of getting a Vortex Race 3

I understand that the keyboard isn't great for custom caps because of the 1.5 esc/delete keys, but apart from that issue is there anything wrong with it? The caps it come with look fine to me

>> No.61859133

for some reason floating keys turn me off.

>> No.61859170

I actually really like low profile aesthetic.I get why some people wouldn't though.

>> No.61859263

>Majestouch naught
Can only find Majestouch 2
>Cherry OEM
It's an OEM profile keyboard with cherry (mx) switches?
>Tai Hao PBT doubleshot lavender
These are the grey and black keycaps together right?
Couldn't find on Tai Hao site but found this.

>> No.61859516
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I'm looking to buy my first mechanical keyboard. I'm going with brown switches because I want some tactile feedback but can't afford to wake everyone in the house up.

What do you guys think about the Ducky One TKL for $99? Cherry MX Brown

Or is that too expensive / too much of a risk for a first time user

>> No.61859517

Filco keyboards are made by costar so if you don't find the one you want you can always buy a rebranded one and get the same build quality

>> No.61859530

Nice b8 m8, and no 80-100 bucks is the price for a mid range keyboard.

>> No.61859543


>> No.61859544

>browns apparently suck

What do you suggest? I'd like blue (I type, don't game) but blues are apparently the loudest

>> No.61859547

Cherry MX browns are the worst MX switch. Get MX clears or Gateron browns

>> No.61859580
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just get o rings on your old keyboard

>> No.61859594

Switches don't matter for gaming, reds and browns are just marketed as gaming switches. I use Gateron blues and use them for gaming. Also how loud do you think blues are? They aren't going to wake anyone up unless they're sleeping right next to you.

>> No.61859613


I don't know how loud blues are, I only read that they're generally the loudest. If I can use o-rings I'll just get the E-Element Z-88 for $45 on Amazon and put o rings on it

>> No.61859633

Slightly off topic, but can anyone recommend a game/program for learning how to 10 finger type correctly?

>> No.61859648

O-rings don't stop the clicking they only help with bottoming out, so they don't really do anything for blue switches.


>> No.61859682

Looks good, thanks

>> No.61859683

I just read about 50 amazon reviews of people saying the sound of their blue switches was greatly reduced by using .4mm o rings. Maybe they're all lying

>> No.61859686

That price seems reasonable.

What I was looking for is something like the Varmilo VA109M. I'll tell you more: I'd love to buy that keyboard. However buying that from caps-unlocked would cost me a small fortune: 116£ of keyboard plus 20£ shipping, 136£ equals to 148€. Then I'd have to pay 22%VAT and 5.5€ custom fee since it ships from China. In the end that keyboard would cost me 186€, which is way too much for me even though that keyboard ticks all the boxes, and I'm not even considering the fact it would take more a month or more to arrive at my doorstep.
I thought that by buying the parts separately I could keep costs down to the point I could afford something that isn't sold by Amazon in the gamer stuff section.

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When getting o-rings was a good idea? (Especially on switches designed to click)

What would you want o-rings for? To get some of that wonderful rubber dome feel back? Just learn to type without bottoming-out. Browns aren't exhausting to press and they still offer that little bump that helps you learn how to type without mashing the key to the bottom.

>> No.61859710

Virtual keyboard (shows keypresses) or an image of your layout (takes least space)

>> No.61859729

Like I said it only helps with bottoming out which if you do anyway it's going to happen on all switches and they're all going to be loud. You can't silence the click of a blue switch with o-rings,they only help with bottoming out.

>> No.61859758

Is this the halo build?

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What's the most silent cherry and non-cherry switch?

>> No.61859810

What's the point when the are too light and you bottom out anyway. Also o rings don't affect the clicky noise or actuation mechanism at all. They just dampen the down stoke.

>> No.61859828

Don't listen to that retard. The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism of the switch. O rings most definitely make a difference

>> No.61859845

You know that keyboard is literally a rebranded Ducky

>> No.61859876

Do you think .4mm o rings on a blue switch will affect the feel of the "click"? If I can feel the click like normal but not bottom out as loudly that'd be great

>> No.61859885

A dampened rubber dome that's been used for at least a year

>> No.61859887

Wouldn't "heavier" switch cause you to push through the tactile bump with greater force and bottom out easier?

>> No.61859891


>> No.61859895

O rings don't affect the click at all. Why would you think a piece of rubber that goes on a keycap will some how change the internal mechanisms of the switch?

>> No.61859906

although it is possible to build a keyboard for cheap, usually costs come out to be about the same as just buying a keyboard outright if not more. especially because the cheapest parts usually come from China and you can't buy from there. in addition, cheap builds usually have the 60percent form factor like the GH60 mentioned by >>61858654 because there's a huge variety of parts for 60percent keyboards. that said,

i don't think you can find a PCB for 105key keyboard so you would probably have to handwire or make your own PCB.

you will need a plate cut from somewhere, and probably the case done that way as well.

gateron switches are cheap but if you're the italian guy, you'll be looking at really expensive keycaps (unless you're fine with blanks or the wrong legends)

>> No.61859909

t. mx super clears

>> No.61859912

>Why would you think that

Because I'm new to mechs and don't fully understand the mechanism yet, since I've never even handled one much less owned.

>> No.61859932

if you have the money you could build your self a really nice custom keyboard
Here is a full size PCB
and here is a case

>> No.61859963

Just go to microcenter and type on the different keyboards, they even carry topre. Or you can get a switch tester from amazon, then return it. You have no excuses

>> No.61859979

i thought people weren't ordering from GON anymore

>> No.61860021

>You know that keyboard is literally a rebranded Ducky
No. What does this imply?

>but if you're the italian guy, you'll be looking at really expensive keycaps
Yep, that's me (damn I'm so easily spottable). I was ready to give up and buy the MasterKeys Pro M, but having tried brown switches really fucked my plans royally. As you can see I'm still looking for a solution, and assembling my own keyboard just evaporated from the list. At this point I'll probably bite the bullet for the time it takes to raise the money for something like that Varmilo.

>> No.61860045

Alt right fags get in here

>> No.61860046

What is meant with naught? Not on deskthority either. Guess it's just a Majestouch 2.

>> No.61860066

I hope you aren't trolling. Did you try googling the word naught

>> No.61860086
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Seeking a mechanical keyboard to satisfy my preferences has proven difficult.

Full size 104 key
Cherry MX Red switches
Classic key markings (numbers on the bottom, shifted symbols on the top)
Numpad with numbers and arithmetic symbols only, no redundant Home/End/PgUp etc.

The most suitable is the custom layout I chose at wasdkeyboards.com (pic related)
I understand that the cursor movement markings on the numpad are traditional, but perhaps those 10 keys could be replaced with custom caps?

The price ($320 AUD) seems extravagant however, might there be a cheaper alternative?

I would be grateful for your advice or a hint to point me in the right direction.

>> No.61860121

I just did and still don't get it.

>> No.61860130

Why not get a normal ISO keyboard then get Italian keycaps from Maxkey?

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>> No.61860203

Ok so not the two

>> No.61860233

Depends on the spring's design. A weighting at a specific position in the travel doesn't tell you everything about the spring's compression characteristics throughout its entire travel.

>> No.61860256

lol with that price point you can get a custom korean keyboard that has way better build quality. since you're an aussie you're choices are very limited. You could by a cheap keyboard, then replace the keycaps with something like

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