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>Discord / IRC
#/g/wdg @ irc.rizon.net
Web client: https://www.rizon.net/chat

>Getting started
Get a good understanding of HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
Everything you learn will have these as their base.
The Mozilla Developer Network offers a good intro (no matter your browser choice)

>Online courses

>Further reading/viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBzRwzY7G-k [Embed]

>Code challenges

>Useful resources
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web - General documentation for HTML, CSS & JavaScript
https://libraries.io/ - Discover and keep track of open source libraries, modules and frameworks
https://stackoverflow.com/ - Developers asking questions and helping each other
http://www.programmableweb.com/ - List of public APIs
https://caniuse.com/ - Check browser support for front-end web technologies

>Useful Youtube channels
https://www.youtube.com/learncodeacademy - codecademy
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO1cgjhGzsSYb1rsB4bFe4Q - funfunfunction
https://www.youtube.com/user/TechGuyWeb - Traversy Media
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8butISFwT-Wl7EV0hUK0BQ - freeCodeCamp
https://www.youtube.com/user/shiffman - coding train

>cheap VPS hosting in most western locations

an in-depth comparison of hosts

>> No.61379415

Any courses to recommend on Udemy since they're all going for so cheap right now?

>> No.61379930

Anon those things are always on sale. Don't fall for the trap, also you can always find a coupon code online.

>> No.61379955

What do after learning HTML, CSS, JS, and bootstrap/foundation?

>> No.61380335

PHP and Ruby

>> No.61380576

how do weather api's or sports api's get their data? is it humans inputting it into a DB or what? I want to start my own api

>> No.61380645

Who I'm actually surprised by both of those answers?

>> No.61380802

Weather can be automated. Someone, somewhere, will probably need to update sports scores though.

>> No.61380834

you ever see a sports game going on? There are people in a little box flipping a switch every time a team scores in order to update the billboard. add in an internet connection and now the information is online. If you want to be nice for people, you can give them a way to access specific data with special commands, known as an API.

>> No.61380945

what happens if you build an app for someone and somehow it gets hacked or the program fucks up and you lose some or all of their data? or what if important data gets leaked? are you f u c k e d legally?

>> No.61380983

are you hosting their data? what are your terms and conditions?

>> No.61381108

*Wow not Who

Thanks anon!

>> No.61381119

I fell for the React TDD meme. enzyme sucks, cant handle Semantic UI, nor react-bootstrap components.

>> No.61381133

I need to create a table with data from json, where to build the html php or javascript?

>> No.61381140


its not a real scenario i was just wondering if it did happen

>> No.61381174

Do you have the data? use php.
Do you call an outside api? use javascript.

>> No.61381189


If it can be argued that it caused a monetary loss for the company then yes. However, it really depends on what was in the contract since any stipulations can be agreed on.

>> No.61381207

Does React let me develop sites that will work if the user has javascript disabled?

>> No.61381215

a lot of contracts have something about not being liable for data loss

>> No.61381217


use php to spit it out in JSON, then use ajax to bind that shit, nigga

>> No.61381223

No, it requires javascript to work.

>> No.61381234

OK thanks. Been using Angular 2 at work and it seems pretty handy but useless for progressive enhancement.

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>Does React let me develop sites that will work if the user has javascript disabled?

>> No.61381266

I read somewhere you can render shit on the server side and have it all static on the client side.

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I didn't feel like this was obnoxious enough so heres another

>> No.61381292

Then what's the point? Might as well go with a static site generator

>> No.61381305

I want JS users have have the full experience, but there are still things users can do without JS enabled in my site design.

>> No.61381338

tell them to whitelist or fuck off. why bother with autists who go out of their way to disable half of the web's functionality

>> No.61381339

There is no DOM modification on client without JS. You have CSS animations and transitions nowadays, but you cant dynamically actuate on the DOM elements.

>> No.61381346

Because I'm one of those autists

I know that, but you can still provide functionality without DOM manipulation.

>> No.61381350

You can check if the user has javascript enabled. If they don't then serve them another version of the page that doesn't require JS. There is probably a better solution though.

>> No.61381369

If javascript is required tho you can always try node.js since it runs server side anyways.

>> No.61381410

Yea I'm using Node on the server side, and I render static pages with handlebars, then on the client side attach all the handlers. The site still works in a basic way without JS enabled but there are some nice features of Angular I wanted to use but I can't without fundamentally changing the way I work and losing the current non-JS fallbacks. I read somewhere React can let me work the way I want.

I don't believe anything I read in /wdg/ anyway, most posters are angry memers with little to no practical experience.

>> No.61381420

>little to no practical experience
>guys does this javascript library require javascript to work???

>> No.61381427

t. angry memer

>> No.61381438

at least i'm not retarded

>> No.61381444

>tfw fell for the "front-end is easier" meme

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>> No.61384491

knowing php and nodejs, is there some way I can reach ~$300 a month? That's all I (desperately) need.

Upwork has too many web devs and won't let my apply for jobs.

Freelancer wants to charge me for applying to jobs wtf?

On Fiverr clients have to select you, good luck with that.

What else is there?

>> No.61384714


oh you can send quotes on fiverr

>let my
let me*

Anyway, if any anons are interested in arbitraging some work that'd be cool.

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>pronouncing 'javascript' like 'yavascript'

>> No.61385006

Try craigslist gigs section

>> No.61385038

what's the point of javascript set? why would this even be added to js?

>> No.61385082

You guys are awesome.. This is all great info to know for a newb like me.

>> No.61385186

>javascript set
A set doesn't allow duplicate elements.

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