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/mkg/ - 96 edition

>Learn to touch type:
>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

previous thread: >>61070648

>> No.61101787

First for ROMER - G switches

>> No.61101826

which desu i dont get the hate these switches get... Its absolutely reddit tier to hate them

>> No.61101836


The big "G" which could be joked to mean "GAY" turns everyone off but theyre really good switches.

>> No.61101854
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>I don't buy into the conformist Cherry mx switches.

>> No.61101959

Remidner that Topre is rubber domes

But good

>> No.61102039

Black weight + blue tactility = ____

>> No.61102067

It's smoother

>> No.61102075

Blues with black springs

>> No.61102089

I've been tying on the James Donkey with Gateron Browns for a week. Now I'm switching to a K70 with MX Speed.

Currently have a Matias Tactile Pro on the way to round out my collection. So far I have Buckling Spring, MX Red, MX Speed, Topre, and Gateron Brown.

>> No.61102095

Buckling Springs

>> No.61102125

I'd get Gateron Browns at least. The tactile bumps in Cherry switches are weak.

Also look into the Matias Quiet Switch

>> No.61102160
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>Learn to touch type
I get this error every time.

>> No.61102412
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How to know if this Cherry MX Blue switch is genuine ?
I bought a keyboard (TVS Gold Bharat) from a friend that's leaving the country and wanted to sell as much shit as he can. I know that this keyboard is indian, so that's a huge red flag, but how bad can it really be ? I paid 5 euros for it and even if it has fake switches, it's still probably a bit better than my Logitech K120 I have at the moment

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I cleaned it as much as I could
also would getting an extension from ps/2 to ps/2 or from ps/2 to usb be bad for respone time or doesn't really matter ? since current wire is too short for me to use it normally

>> No.61102503

what is this sexy keyboard friends and where can i buy it (i dont know anything about keyboards)

>> No.61102522
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>> No.61102583

MX Greens

>> No.61102595

it's a render ist' ar ender

>> No.61102846

Opinions on building a mkg

>> No.61102892

tvs gold has legit cherry switches. they last ages. except for the shitty looks, this keyboard is a really good budget mechanical keyboard.

>> No.61102908
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depends on how much you hate yourself

>> No.61102931

Good to know
At worst I will probably be able to sell it for couple euros more, if I will get a better keyboard sometime
It seems to have some ghosting, but not sure yet if it's any better than ghosting on K120
What about using PS/2 female to male extension since the cable is fairly short and I can't comfortably connect it to my PC. Will the extension not make any noticeable difference ?

>> No.61103031

I like Blues but the travel is too long and my hands hurt
what to get?

>> No.61103060
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>> No.61103362

the extension should be fine

>> No.61103473

it's a render which shows off just the keycaps (not the keyboard itself), check out YMD96 and coolermaster masterkeys pro m if you want a keyboard with a similar layout

>> No.61103557

Why are Cherry Blues so best?
Why are Zealios so worst?

>> No.61103634
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>> No.61103695

Cherry clears are great, Gateron clears are shitty memes that are only good for unintentional actuations

>> No.61103832

Guys, Mod M (tacticle) stem in Kailh gold housing. This is crazy smooth, even when pushing on the very corner of a switch

>> No.61103841

and with M tactitle I mean L linear. im retarded. Point still stands

>> No.61103843

Fyi - using saliva is not a substitute for lube for the key switches.
My keyboard now just prints kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk... When connected.
Fuck you faggots

>> No.61103913

how the fuck do I type a tilde on the new poker ii

fn+esc just gives `

>> No.61103934

This is the most completely retarded thing I've ever read.

Saliva is conductive. You utter moron.

>> No.61103977

I kinda want a trendy 60% keyboard, but I mainly use i3wm or other similar tiling WMs.

Since everything is mapped to the keys already, am I gonna want to kms any time I want to do a simple task since it'd require an extra keypress on top of command+shift?

>> No.61104001

it's a tradeoff. Longer to reach vs. more keys to press.

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>> No.61104372
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Been hiding out from summer /g/.

>> No.61104488

just bought me the logitech gay413 and i like it cause it clickity but not too clickity and also very elegant
i'm learning to use vimium for the express purpose of being able to use it more

>> No.61104590

Does anybody have first hand experience with Mod switches? How's reliability and quality?

>> No.61104625

it is actually quite difficult as i never conformed to home-row traditional typing and i can tell the shortcuts assume that you probably do
i need to get good i guess

>> No.61104820
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How are Gateon blues? I was going to get an anne pro with them but then saw pic attached on input club's website.

>> No.61104883

Gateron blues are not bad, but I think the cherry mx version is better due to the actuation force being 50g and the gateron version being 55g. That is only 5g off from being blacks.
>Scratchy press
Gateron blues I got were still smooth... It was just the actuation force needed and it literally hurt my fingers. I think that just got the gen1 copies or something. The gen2 and gen3 are much better in that regard.

>> No.61104918

>Why are Cherry Blues so best?
Yes and second are gateron browns. Fuck the linear switches (besides blacks, I only have respect for those).
>Why are Zealios so worst?
Literally overpriced gaterons. I am not joking about it, gaterons literally made those for the Zealgoy company and they are selling them for ridiculous prices. I got a tester for the switches and they are not that great either.

>> No.61104961

There was literally a comparison where someone opened the switches and it was basically the same material. Some metal, plastic cover and stem, and a spring. Surprise surprise a switch is not that hard to make and the cherry mx is nowhere "premium"

>> No.61104970

I got a tester too. Zealios feel like broken linears. And I've come to the conclusion that Cherry Blue is the superior switch for all use cases.

>> No.61104981

>he doesn't have a numpad on his mouse

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>> No.61105045
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drevo Excalibur
>84 layout
>6.25 space(normal)
>65 usd
>white, the superior color
>detachable cable
>Memelighting(will never use it though)
Why should I not buy this keyboard?
I can just replace them anon.

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>> No.61105140

take anything that input club says with a grain of salt, they're shitting on gateron blue this hard yet they are praising kailh blue just because they're selling kailh now

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wew it's happening lads, 2nd kb, officially fell through the hole

>> No.61105224

personally i dont like that style where everything is crammed like a sardine on anything over 65%

>> No.61105240

oh also when you replace key cpas keep in mind the right shift and the right 1u ctrl fn and alt keys

>> No.61105316
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Black PBT spacebar has arrived, just waiting for the rest of my blank black keys to arrive then I'll have a nice stormtrooper HHKB!

>> No.61105381

What are the alternatives to this?

>> No.61105410

idk... choc mini 84? Drevo Gramr. Magicforce 84/82

>> No.61105457

vi keys

>> No.61105479

But I do

>> No.61105501

Why are you such a moron? Install topre-cherry sliders from ali and use any keycaps you want.

>> No.61105553

And drill holes in to my board for the stabilizer inserts? No thanks
And add extra horrible noise and rattle to my board? Again, no thanks.

You're the moron :)

>> No.61105920

>using overpriced rubberdomes

>> No.61105990

Honestly I'll use anything so long as it feels good, price doesn't really matter. I'll even enjoy using a Microsoft wireless ergo 7000 because of how comfy it is despite the fact they were like a $100+ rubberdome keyboard.

>> No.61106031

gonna buy a full modular DIY keyboard. idk which keys to get. I've had these gateron blacks for a year or so now, and I make so many typos. it's like they make me type worse, and for gaming they're just meh. I want something different from cherry reds though. Should I go with gateron reds?

Also I play Tekken on keyboard, using arrow keys as ABYX. what switches would be good? would blues and browns simulate fightstick buttons the most?

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How much do I need to be part of the cool kids club?

>> No.61106789

I have a cm firestorm stealth and want to know if its possible to modify the boards firmware so caps lock is replaced by control. so i don't need software key re-mapper

>> No.61106835

best places to buy keycaps that isn't massdrop?

>> No.61106994

Ebay, aliexpress, taobao, pimpmykeyboard, imsto, E-sport gaming equipment, mechanicalkeyboards, ukkeycaps, candykeys, KBDFans, keyclack, etc.

>> No.61106996

Aliexpress, Originative, zFrontier, Marc's Happy Mech Store, KBDFans

>> No.61107050


>> No.61107128


this is pretty cool but i want to see more reverse dye sub like the pbt carbon sets so like just a plain black/other keycap color with white/other legend color

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>> No.61107930


Please Help Anons...

Trying to get my first mechanical keyboard for gaming - cs:go

I'm looking for, in order of priority:

1 - Gaming switches, so Linear like Cherry MX Reds or Silvers, or Silent Reds

2 - Compact. I never use the numpad and want to free up desk space.

3 - RGB. Obviously optional but I have a rgb mouse and keyboard that sync (razer) any chance to get anything other than a razer keyboard to sync rgb with those?

Best I have found at a good price is this:


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>> No.61108031

Is my first 60-65% really gonan be a Tada68? This meme is working on me.

>> No.61108423
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Good on you, keep using those Alpen Light switches.

>> No.61108564

Well they are no fujitsu leaf spring but going from noisy white alps to 45g weighted topre was a welcome upgrade

>> No.61109374

Mate gaming switches aren't any faster than other switches. And silent reds are not good, they get real resistance if you push the edges of the key.

>> No.61109469

>clicky Alps

Prepare for ear rape.

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200 is where are the cool kids are
Who /smart phone/ here?
I still can't get used to this keyboard. If I type too fast I make a lot of mistakes

>> No.61110415
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My motospeed CK104 has some issues with A key recently, when I press it, it many times either double clicks (types 2 A:s instead of one) or doesnt register at all. Really fucking annoying, is there an easy fix I could try for mechanical switch or what the fuck could be the issue, its annoying as fuck when it many times either double clicks or doesnt register at all while typing. Is this what I get for buying cheap chinkshit, I like the keyboard otherwise but this fucking one key with issues is getting on my nerves

>> No.61110721

>non backlit
>sexy looking pastel colours
>detachable coiled usb cable
>cherry brown switches

Please help.
I wish I could get some leopolds in canada.

>> No.61110739

That's called key chatter. It can be fixed by soldering in a new switch

>> No.61110757

What's wrong with buying them from America and shipping them over the border? I know NCIX has some Ducky Ones in white

>> No.61110815

Well for fucks sake, I don't think I can get easily Outemu Blues fast and don't have proper soldering tools for smaller electronics or experience, is there other fixes I could try, I found something about putting a drop or two of isopropyl alcohol inside the switch and press it for a while and let it dry and then try again, can this help or is it bullshit

I really wouldn't want to return either to membrane keyboard or my old mechanical with MX Blacks as I do like these blue clones but this one key is fucking annoying

>> No.61110846

i can't find anywhere to buy it. i tried amazon but it says, "item does not ship to canada"

>> No.61111005



if you get gaterons take an outemu switch from somewhere else on your keyboard so your frequently used keys are all outemus

>> No.61111031

I tried Gat Blues and they just felt like sloppy versions of Cherry MX. Gateron's linear and even Brown switches are fine, but the Blues is where chink inconsistency and no QC becomes apparent.

>> No.61111267

You think I've should've gotten the Quiet Pro? How do the Matias clicky and quiet switches compare in terms of tactility?

>> No.61111339

Thanks, although I went ahead and tried the isopropyl alcohol trick I found, I took out the keycap and dropped a few drops of it to the switch trying to get it inside and started clicking for a while and gave it some time to dry, and for the moment it seems to be functioning with no double clicks, maybe there was some shit in the switch causing it to double click, no idea or I am being lucky, but for the record while testing on typing tests and while writing this message I didn't notice any double clicks or missed clicks with the A key, it seems to be functioning for now.
I'll consider ordering these switches and those tools if it starts acting up again, but for now it seems to work and I hope it stays that way

>> No.61111915

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ has them

>> No.61112515
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>grad photo
>didn't even clean the KB
>greasy fucking abs keycaps
>splooge by arrow keys


I hope this isn't one of you guys

>> No.61112701
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What do you guys think of the Ducky one tkl with the original duck one caps? And brown switches.

>> No.61112733

key caps are pretty much personal preference

that aside ducky one is a solid keyboard

>> No.61112850

Why r u censoring an reddit img?

>> No.61112853

why has light come from keys? is it optical switch?

>> No.61112922

what keyboard should I buy /mkg/

t. noob

>> No.61112975

Are LK switches available to be bought separately by now?

>> No.61113033

shit anon you are right, I feel like an idiot now :^)

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>> No.61113431

Clueboard from massdrop

>> No.61113784

thanks. i thought that was just an info site

>> No.61114004

Both types of Matias switch make Cherries seem completely non-tactile

>> No.61114565
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Ajazz AK33

>> No.61114580

I have a PS/2 port. What sort of old keyboard should I use?

>> No.61114647
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Sub $100, less is better, but don't want garbage
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Doesn't matter, just needs to be standard so I can get custom caps
>Form factor
Preferably tenkeyless, but not a dealbreaker
Doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
FILCO Majestouch 2 w/ browns

>> No.61115031
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Lots of people are posting about inexpensive offbrand keyboards with discount bootleg switches. From your own experiences in life do you really think this will be the same as a premium keyboard or any other premium product? Know that you are still overpaying for what you are getting.
This guy actually knows what he is talking about from real experience. Good luck with your Ewok themed keyboard.

>> No.61115213

Does anyone know if the KUL cases for the ES-87 are a different material than the stock case? The proton white looks slick but I don't want to get it if it's going to shine like the stock case.

>> No.61115276

So if I want cherry switches for the Drevo Excalibur, I have to buy the black version? That's some bullshit.

>> No.61115556

Ordered one but I will remove the yellow shit
Nice keycaps tho[you should get white donkey version it would look better]
James donkey master race with gateron blue
tenkeyless $35 at gaybest atm ,It is not any worse than other shit under 100 bucks,to have real quality u gotta pay 150+

People say only bad things about Drevo,It is good looking keyboard but has issues.

>> No.61115572

How good are Unicomps?

>> No.61115862
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>no Atomics on OLKB

>> No.61116019

does anyone have fucking pok3r rgb in stock that isn't a white case? i'm fine with nearly any switch

>> No.61116177

Leopold FC660C (possibly with hasu controller), only keyboard you'll ever need :^)

>> No.61116593

I'm in the market for my first keyboard but I'm not sure what I'm looking for
I'd like it to be one and done and I'll just trick out that board (maybe do a custom down the line)

My current keyboard is first gen apple Bluetooth keyboard. I like it for lightweight portable stuff but it feels too mushy after typing for long periods of time (I do use a fag book my work bought for me)

40-70 preferred
I'd really like something compact
Not really an issue but I do plan on picking up some key caps later on
Have no idea
I'd probably like a quite keyboard since I work in an office. The people that have the machine gun fire keys are annoying

What should I get?

>> No.61116646

>James donkey master race
Oh God, meme magic is real.

>> No.61116663

>James donkey master race
Someone call the meme police, I'm the victim of an internet crime!

>> No.61116784

I've had my non-backlit magicforce for three weeks now and only just realised it has a caps lock light

and that was because i was changing the keycaps

>> No.61116834

Matias makes a 75% keyboard with quiet click switches

>> No.61116857
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what cross-stem switch manufacturer has least wobble?
more specifically linears

>> No.61116913

I just bought a ducky something with red switches on a whim. For programming and occasional aoe2. First/only mech keyboard. I'm using an old IBM SK-1811 that I've had for years and years as an ex-poorfag (I suppose I'm now at the stage of poorfaggery that I piss away my sudden slightly disposable income).

did I fuck up?

>> No.61116924

sorry, correction: IBM SK-8811

>> No.61116926

Logitech K120

>> No.61116933

Kailh box linear probably. It's a new switch so your mileage may vary.


>> No.61116939

Makes sense, since the original MX Black was never designed with tactility in mind.

>> No.61116960

The case is creaky as shit, especially if you try to play vidya on it. Aside from that, it's the only clicky tactile switch worth a damn, aside from maybe Alps.

>> No.61116979

Reds are fine once you get used to them.

>> No.61116983

Had an Atlas for awhile. Absolutely hated the switches and the spring in the spacebar resonated loud enough to hear it when wearing open-back headphones.

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isn't that shit just the fast-lane to RSI?

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>slightly higher actuation too
I'll check them out

>> No.61117115

They even shit on cherry greens,

>> No.61117615

I don't prefer typing on them. Too much force to overcome to actuate each switch.

>> No.61117941

t. handlet

>> No.61118003

That's like buying a Mercedes A-Class and claiming the AMG GT is shit.

>> No.61118286
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I know this is mkg and not rubberkg, but what is the K120 of tenkeyless rubber dome keyboard?
Is it a DIY K120 TKL? Or is it pic related?

>> No.61118474
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What are some good micro usb cables on AliExpress? preferably coiled

>> No.61118485

I'm surprised TKL rubberdomes exist, considering normies don't care for it.

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how do you know it's a reddit image?

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>> No.61118723
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plum 84 in addition to the ones the other anons mentioned. also more expensive korean customs and kits like KBD75

>> No.61118750

people here will hate me but the g413 is a good choice at 90 bucks, just make sure to get the silver cause the black on only has a red backlight

romer-g switches aren't bad and it doesn't look autistic and gamery

alternatively whatever the budget one is called is the same keyboard with no backlight and 10 bucks cheaper i forgot the name

>> No.61118775

best buys have these on display too, so you can try it for yourself before buying if you have one where you live

>> No.61118799


>> No.61118888 [DELETED] 


Ducky One Tenkeyless with Cherry MX Blues.

Don't listen to the Romer-G faggot here >61118750 or you can't use any custom caps.

>> No.61118916


Ducky One Tenkeyless with Cherry MX Blues.

Don't listen to the faggot here >>61118750 because you can't use custom caps on Romer-Gs due to their nonstandard stems.

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my anne pro arrived today

it's okay.

>> No.61119288
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What are some ways of dampening the sound of a rattly/loud/tinny sounding stabilizer?
And also, I know this would also be a good question for /csg/, but I figure I'd try here also; what are some cheap ABS or PBT caps that allow for backlighting (doubleshot or white) for around $10-$15? I know they'd be kinda crap quality, but compared to the painted caps that come on corsair and razer keyboard, I'd rather some textured ABS caps at least.

I tried some out from a display, felt alright, couldn't get used to the shorter stroke distance, I'd imagine it'd be great for gaming, but for typing, I didn't like the feel. Same complaint with the speed switches, mostly a preference thing, but I could see why people would like them.

Cherry clicky > Gateron clicky
Cherry linear < Gateron linear

>> No.61119527

What's with these shit tier pepes? Fucking summerfags.

>> No.61119570

I have a Corsair K65 and whenever I turn the brightness to full, it starts typing random keys. Also, my LED colour scheme is currently an orangeish hue across the keyboard but some keys are turning green. I'm currently too drunk to take it apart, clear it of any dust, and see if there's anything wrong with the circuits, but do you guys think this is easily fixable or is it a different issue that's related to the keyboard being old? I don't think I've had this for more than two years and I hope I'm not just going insane.

>> No.61119590

sounds like an electronics/software design fault. try resetting it to the factory default and don't program too many macros or don't turn the brightness to full

>> No.61119596

or maybe you have a bad capacitor somewhere. then you could replace the capacitor.

>> No.61119650

Thanks, I don't have any keyboard-specific drivers installed on my laptop, but I have saved a custom patterrn to the keyboard firmware. I'll try resetting it to see if that fixes it and I'll take it apart to make sure there's no physical damage.

I can do without LEDs but I just want to make sure that my entire keyboard won't be unusable now.

>> No.61119680

Just bought a Rapoo v500 (the standard layout one) and it has what seems to be cherry clone stabilizers.

The stabilizer keys, especially space and right shift rattle pretty badly. What's the fix to this? Lube up everything?

>> No.61120357

Aluminum body or high quality plastic for kb frame?

>> No.61120434

Plastic because aluminum is cold, it's preference though, some people like the 'solidity' and weight of the aluminum.

>> No.61120460

Hi lads, I've fallen for my thinkpad (classic) keyboard and I'd like something similar or better* for the desktop. Precise, tactile, ~65g actuation.. Are the Cherry MX Clear/Gateron Clear what I'm after?

TKL or smaller (if the layout is good)
NKRO over PS/2


Replace PrtSc or Pause with Insert and it's the perfect layout.

>> No.61120543

Gateron clears aren't the same as Cherry clears.

Zealios would probably fit you perfectly but they don't come preinstalled in any keyboards.

>> No.61120560

Construction matters more than material, I'll always pick a solid plastic frame designed with maximum support and minimal flex over most budget aluminium setups that are usually just a shitty 1.5mm plate and maybe half a dozen screw posts supporting the PCB so every key that isn't directly over a screw posts flexes like crazy.

>> No.61120665

Thanks, I want to avoid going too exotic if possible. Just want to buy the thing in 1 piece and be done with it.

>> No.61121544

Question on the 60% keyboards. Is the decrease in size just removing keys, or are the actual keys smaller, with a smaller gap? Like will it feel like a normal keyboard with less keys, or will it feel like some fucking netbook condensed keyboard?

Also, eyeing Leopold FC660 (currently have a Ducky Zero and a Das 4, both blues) - good choice?

>> No.61121562

Are blues or browns better for programming/typing? I don't game.

Assuming I go all out and can get any switch, what's the best switch for typing?

>> No.61121845

just removing keys

>> No.61121872

mx blue/green
capacitive buckling spring

>> No.61122066

Definitely blue.
Depending on if you care about noise, I find Cherry/Gateron Greens to be really nice to type on. They are quite stiff at 75-80g, though.

>capacitive buckling spring
>not beamspring

>> No.61122130

Matias quiet click

>> No.61122279
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>> No.61122343

Is it really the aluminum version. Varmilo has lied about their products before and it pissed a lot of people off.

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>> No.61122386

Nice keyboard, but they are very prone for developing key chatter.

>> No.61122412

That looks like a surprisingly tidy layout without sacrificing usability

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>> No.61122453

Beamsprings are overrated as hell. I sold my 3278

>> No.61122536
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Holy fuarkkkk the Reddit meme is real. 65g R4 Zealios are legit! God damn why did I spend so much time modding cherries. Coupled with zealencios this switch is tactile and quieter than my bf's logishit membrane keyboard. Dunno about the price though, a tad too expensive for gaterons but I think the feel and quality makes up for it.

>> No.61122549
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Are there any new tactile meme switches worth trying? Need to start ordering parts for my next build, and I don't know what switches to go with.

Might get some MOD meme switches, or just cut the cost and go with Cherry clears..

>> No.61122551
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Depending on how you lay it out it's only missing two keys. ScrLK and Pause. You can have it as a toogle so pressing FN + NumLK gives you ScrLK

>> No.61122577

Panda switches

>> No.61122578

Get those new Halo switches

>> No.61122581

very nice, though id ditch the gaymur leds

>> No.61122603

Unfortunately non of these 96 key keyboards come without LEDs, except for the rubber dome version

>> No.61122625

How stable is QMK firmware on Winkeyless' ps2avrGB controllers?
Thinking of flashing my B.Mini for dat juicy mouse emulation and 32 layers.

>> No.61122635

This is quite faggy, imho.

>> No.61122648

Turn off the LEDs. Also the all aluminum RS96 is so much nicer looking.

>> No.61122797

Anyone have a vortex core? The lack of bezel and small size is sexy as fuck, but with no tab key and and numbers I feel like I might wanna kill myself after an hour of use

>> No.61123324

You mean mini usb.
Can't find nice ones on aliexpress personally. I'm kinda tempted to buy cable sleeves and connectors and make it myself.




>> No.61123771

It still has LEDs

>> No.61123802
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just got pic related, ask me anything

[spoilers]I'm returning it, i thought the keys were rgb, not just solid colours. also the media keys are laggy as fuck. it types well though[/spoiler]

>> No.61124058

did you really pay that much lol

>> No.61124073

no, I meant to click the other one. I paid $60CAD for my rainbow pride keyboard

>> No.61124115

Yo. My 3yo K120 just died.
I will probably buy another one desu.
Can anyone suggest a good cheap keyboard under £50?
A large, quiet keyboard would be great. I use Linux.

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>> No.61124333

>your dick size

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James donkey white version gateron blacks or magicforce 100% gateron blacks.

>> No.61124375

I type on my lap so... But I'm not fussed really,

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
Any. I'd prefer 100%
>Previous/current keyboards
K120. Various cheap bits of tat.

>> No.61124605

this with brown (tactile) or black (linear) switches would be ok for the price if you don't mind how it looks


>> No.61124844
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First time buyer here. I've been eyeing the new Cooler Master with PBT caps, but as far as I can see it's only available in the ANSI layout.
Does anyone know if there are plans to release it in European territories?

>> No.61125103

No one likes ISO cucks. Get a Ducky with PBT keycaps instead

>> No.61125198

Rather than buying an expensive 50 quid keyboard, gonna buy 5 k120s instead. Thanks /g/uys

>> No.61125293
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What does /mkg/ think about pic related? honestly the analog stick emulation seems really fucking neat for muh racing gaymes and it's way cheaper than most keyboards with cherry blues in my country (which are nearly nonexistent sadly)

>> No.61125313

ISO sucks fag

>> No.61125327

good for you


>> No.61125334

Fuck off

>> No.61125339

get any stinking tkl and a decent gaymen controller

how hard is this ffs

>> No.61125354

Joking you dweeb. Am leaning towards a JD 619 brown and it'll be my first fancy keyboard.


>> No.61125660

just do matias quiet click and AEK keycaps

>> No.61125685

Why do so few keyboards, even custom pcb ones, fail to integrate the numpad on the left side?

>> No.61125744

an integrated numpad is dumb in the first place

at least flip the layout horizontally if you're going to do that so you can use it with your left hand properly

>> No.61125748

New cm with pbt apparently has a shit ton of flex. And it's 'pbt' laser etched low quality plastic

>> No.61125858

I have numpad on both sides AND mouse AND one external

I'm programmer I need all those numbers to make advanced software for you cucks to use.

Yeah ofcourse you do not need numpad while you game 24/7

Go back to /V faqqots

>> No.61125905

Oh, that's too bad. Do you have any good reviews of it I can check out?

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<only 100%
122 key for work and 60% for play is master race pleb

>> No.61126039
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>mid-stroke actuation point
Technically rubber domes are mechanical switches desu.

>> No.61126149

Just like shitting in the street and then taking photo of it is technically art.

Fuck off.

>> No.61126220

Rubberdome over membrane has no actuation mechanism. They're direct contact through applied pressure.
Likewise capacitive rubberdomes also have no actuation mechanism.

>> No.61126822

>I don't work
>I only game and take Instagram shots of my keyboard cause I need the recognition my dad did not give me.

>> No.61126978

Most jobs don't need a number pad

>> No.61127018

how much do you need to hate yourself?

>> No.61127264
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Mod switches are a good meme, in fact, Mod-M switches are my favorite.

They're the most tactile MX switch I've tried and they're a lot more tactile than Zealios (cheaper too). Though Mods are scratchier than Zeals, but the tactically makes it up for me. A lot of people say that Mod switches feel a lot like Topre. You should at least get a tester to see if you like them.


>> No.61127426
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Just searched these, and they seem to be a GB only """"super"""" linear switch?

Can you even buy those switches individually? I can't find a listing for them

I got these three not too long ago. They are all pretty good, and probably what I'll end up getting just because they're readily available. And it's a new meme to try, I guess.

>> No.61127518

>They're direct contact through applied pressure.
So on earth, you are pressing a conductive material into a circuit to close it. Please describe from a terrestrial physical perspective how this is not mechanical.

>> No.61127568

Humans are basically fleshy machines, therefore humans need regular oil changes and filter changes.

>> No.61127609

What a lot of people do is buy Cherry Clears, than switch out the springs with Cherry Black springs.

Though I don't know what Originative did to the Mod switches, but they feel even more tactile than a "panda clear" (what I just mentioned). If you aren't mounting your test switches on a plate, just know they'll feel a lot better once the keyboard is made.

>> No.61127698

there are very few things that have a legitimate need for a numpad. accounting, 3d modeling/cad, manual data entry (lol if you're doing a lot of manual data entry in current year). even then, it's arguably better to have a standalone numpad which you are free to place wherever it suits you. a left hand side integrated numpad would be particularly dumb if you're right handed.

>> No.61127893

I don't work and I have a numpad

>> No.61130229
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Ded general
Ded memes

>> No.61130354

whacha gonna do about it faggot? it's a dying fad :c

>> No.61130809
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>> No.61130906

lol it just needed to be cleaned. works fine now

>> No.61131132

Looking to get a first real mech soon, should I buy a switchtester and wait for it to arrive before buying a keyboard or just gamble on some switch?

>> No.61131278
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All the cool shit happened 30 years ago. Now days its nothing but chink shit

>> No.61131821
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Why are keebs dying in popularity? Mech keebs general used to be so much more active. /r/mechkeebs is also dying and group buy popularity is going down the tube. All of my artisans have been looking value, Zorbs, Fugus, Clacks ... Literally losing 100s here. Why are things imploding? I thought people love mechanical keebs. Normies certainly love them, they buy corsair, steel series, and coolermaster keebs all the time.

>> No.61131877

>Literally losing 100s here
That's your own fault for buying into the retarded artisan economy meme in the first place.

>> No.61131879

Its the other way around. Mechs have become so popular that the hipsters who normally post in these threads have moved on to other memes.

>> No.61131911

Then why do you see other communities flopping?

>> No.61131928

You aren't looking in the right place. Hipsters like to belong to obscure communities, and mechs are no longer that

>> No.61132221

So I have a KBD75 on the way, switches and stabs are here and ready. The one thing I'm missing are keycaps for it.
I want to get some nice keycaps for it, but I'm going to shop around and make sure I get exactly what I want, see what group buys pop up over the next few months.

In the meantime, what is the cheapest keycap set that has the short Right Shiftkey (What is it, 1.75u)? I want to use it while I shop around for good keycaps.

>> No.61132226
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I bought this. MX Clears. How badly did I fuck up?

>> No.61132237
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That would be Tai-Lmao, but their keycaps are so shitty I wouldn't bother. Even though the cost twics as much go for EnjoyPBT instead

>> No.61132243

This keyboard was so close to perfect, if only they didn't fuck up the top row.

>> No.61132252

WTF is that layout? I understand that 75% keyboards have to have some nonstandard keys, but that's too far.

>> No.61132278

Out of curiosity- which Tai-hao sets? Almost all of the ones I see are 104 key sets, and don't have the short R. Shift...

>> No.61132294

the one in the picture. Just go on their website

>> No.61132323

Whats as smooth or smoother than Gateron Blacks?
I can't find any keyboard with blacks

>> No.61132330

w-what if I'm fine with the keycaps it comes with and never plan on changing them?

>> No.61132355

Look around you. No one is ever happy with their keycaps.
You will see a set you like, and you will cry because Vortex decided to be idiots just so they could stagger the top row.

>> No.61132546

i like my keycaps
hhkb master race

>> No.61132565

Not that anon, but got any suggestions for something like this but without the fucked top row? Was actually looking at getting that one too but was hesitant.

>> No.61132574

actually, it so happens that I'm not an autist. I only come on /g/ once every couple months to catch up on the latest AMD/Intel/Nvidia shilling and most certainly don't spend much time in these threads, where people spend more time autistically fussing over their keyboards than they do actually typing on them. The stock keycaps and wonky layout will serve me fine

>> No.61132582

It all depends on how much you feel like spending

>> No.61132596

Just get it man. Can come stock with MX clears, DSA caps, 75%... this is as perfect as it gets right now. Unless you want to be like the other autists here and refuse to get it just because you won't be able to get those custom rainbow MLP keycaps

>> No.61132622
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The problem is that it already comes with MLP keycaps as stock.

>> No.61132650

Those colored ones come extra. By default it's like this >>61132226

>> No.61132692

Hhkb is the best mech keeb. Basically the ultimate for typist and coders. Do you have MX sliders on your keeb?

>> No.61132705
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HHKB isn't a mech. Its either a rubber dome or capacitive.

>> No.61132708

>I'm not an autist
>I come to 4chan
You can't just pick one. You asked a thread on /g/ about their opinion. That automatically makes you retarded, just like the rest of us.

You automatically assuming that someone's calling you autistic pretty much confirms your autism too, by the way. Have fun living with that.

congrats on completely missing the joke. Congrats on enjoying your HHKB though.

>> No.61132721

does the hhkb physical layout actually offer any sort of advantage over the standard 60% physical layout or is it all just a meme/aesthetics

>> No.61132750


Is this keyboard any good?

>> No.61132763

The layout of the keeb lets your wrists stay in one position to reach all your keys, with numbers being accessible to you via modifs. It's a truly efficient mech keeb. I know viper keebs use the same layout and soon van keebs will release one with the same layout so it's more affordable for mech keeb enthusiasts who can build their own custom keebs.

>> No.61132842


>> No.61132871

it's matte

source: I've owned one

>> No.61132891

I mean is it the same type of plastic that will up shining.

>> No.61132926

It's subjective, the layout is one of those things you have to try out and see for yourself. It's loosely based off the Sun Unix layout, except missing a few Sun specific keys.

Although I'd say it's actually the superior layout for 60%, it makes really efficient use of what available space there is and the delete key placement is great.

>> No.61132989
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40% keyboards are for showing off on social media and then not actually using. Literally buttsex.

>> No.61133073

>Mechs are flopping.
The latest SA carbon group buy on assdrop sold more than 8k units. The mk trend is just starting.

>> No.61133099
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DSA caps are thin as fuck and feel pretty meh.

>> No.61133121

Is RGB a must? Because you can get a James Donkey or a Magicforce with Gaterons for much cheaper.

>> No.61133134

So i want a full keyboard with silent keys (something like cherry red silent) and a (preferably) white backlight, rgb can do. Color would be black with black/gray keys. Location is USA, something cheap. Anybody have any ideas?

>> No.61133138

Anyone have pok3r rgb mx clears in stock anywhere?

>> No.61133303

I just want a good and white mech keyboard. I don't care about the RGMeme.

>> No.61133413
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>> No.61133484
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Leopolds are comfy, but if you want something better built then get a rosewill 9000v2

>> No.61133501

My Matias Tactile Pro 4 came in. Some initial thoughts:

>keys are heavy as shit, almost more than buckling springs, and about as loud
>tactility is off the chart, very crisp
>Forward slash key frequently gets stuck due to Matias's bad quality assurance.

Aside from the busted key, I'm liking this feel a lot. I'll be using for a week and reporting back.

>> No.61133612

Are alps switches a meme?

>> No.61133635
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What is this keyboard?

>> No.61133646

Those are cotton swabs, not a keyboard.

>> No.61133709

>I can finally shitpost without the pain caused by a life time of shitty rubberdomes pulled out of the trash

T-thanks 104UG~kun

>> No.61133978

Is cherry profile keycaps better for typing or gaming meme?

>> No.61134020
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>Better built.

>> No.61134043

It's the best profile there is. Subjectively and all that crap, but not much can beat Cherry profile.

DSA feels like chiclets, SA is way too tall and not angled correctly, and absolutely no one likes OEM.

>> No.61134045

I should've specified to the chink keyboard he posted. The Rosewill is cheaper and better built that it.

>> No.61134047
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Some weeb shit. It is not even a real keyboard.

>> No.61134092

that doesn't answer my question. Is it better for typing and why?

>> No.61134123

If you want an RGB board with Cherry MX Browns because it's Global Faggotry Month, this G.Skill is on sale for 80 burgerdollars.


>> No.61134129

Are you poor or something? Cost is not a factor when buying memes like mech keyboards

>> No.61134130

Yes cherry is one of the best profiles for typing, it is not a flat profile, but is relatively low profile, making it easy to use and smooth feeling. Higher profiles like SA and OEM are less comfortable and require more attention to type well.

>> No.61134164

It's the best profile, period.

>> No.61134213

Fuck off geekhack

>> No.61134298

>Those colored ones come extra.
Nope, they come with.

>> No.61134734

go to a retail store and try keyboards with the basic switches (blue/brown/red). or just go with blue switches if you'll be typing with it alone and you don't think the sound will bother you

>> No.61134800

>80 burgerdollars.
Wow its a nothing burger

>> No.61134814
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Thoughts on the white fukka switches?

>> No.61134825

Consult the chart here >>61133099 to see what suits you.

Given how cheap keyboards are getting due to Chinese Cherry MX clones, you could buy a Gateron Brown and Blue board and still come out ahead over buying a Ducky Shine.

>> No.61134837

Alps clone.

>> No.61135001

Why so much hate on MX brown. The subtle bump and light spring is the best of all.

>> No.61135044

don't know what keyboard that is but that spacebar looks interesting. i do think the spacebar in cherry/oem profile is stupid as hell. some keycap sets are better at shaping the concave part to compensate for it but your pic related takes it to another level.

>> No.61135056


>> No.61135168


hunt down the original japanese alps or suffer

>> No.61135196

Okay, so how do I take keycaps off of the Matias switches? Fuckers are on there tight and I'm afraid of breaking something.

>> No.61135241

Buying a Vortex Race 3.

Can I replace the Escape and Delete keys with these?


>> No.61135265


>> No.61135321

Question, do these Matias switches bind at all, especially if you hit them off center, or do the always provide a smooth and unobstructed motion?

I only tried one ALPS variant keyboard once, and the switches would stick/bind if you didn't hit them on center, so it was terrible to type on. Cherry MX bind a bit if you hit them really off center, but not much. Topre seem better in that department.

>> No.61135362
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I just bought one of those razer blackwidow keyboards how retarded am I?

>> No.61135386
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>paid $30 for this
You got ripped off.

>> No.61135390

My forward slash key did, though struggling with the keycap puller on it seemed to have solved the problem. Aside from that, I don't see it on any other keys.

>> No.61135409

won't these just work?

>> No.61135410

How much did you pay for it? If you paid retail for their latest Blackwidow Chroma V2 with their chinky "Razer switches," then yeah, u dum.

>> No.61135428

pretty retarded

>> No.61135451
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i have a ducky keyboard in a unique color, numbered /150, from a couple years ago that i never used that i want to sell, did it appreciate or lose value. do people pay extra for rare shit

>> No.61135589

Not him but I gotta ask, what's so bad with fullsize? I don't have anything against TKL but fullsize isn't bad per se imo

>> No.61135691

Some ergonomics bullshit.

>> No.61135885
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I picked up the 2016 one at a retail store

>> No.61135940

Congratulation on your overpriced shit with kailh switches.

>> No.61135961

Is there any keyboard project with 100% size?
I have tons of cherry switches (old blacks and newish blues) that I want to use.

>> No.61136077


>> No.61136133

this one? not too bad then


>> No.61136181

Finally trying out my new tada after years of using rubberdomes and scissor chiclets. It's... interesting. I suppose I should also learn to touch type properly now, because I'm stuck in the weird half-pecking way that was extremely overfit to my previous keyboards and limited me to about 80WPM on my best days.

It does feel pretty great though, and loud as all fuck with the blues. I'm already not fully bottoming out and I love it. Now to try gaming with blues

>> No.61136321

Speaking of the tada, has anyone made a proper english-translated version of the programming software or do I still have to go to the chink site with no domain name and guess at half the more advanced options?

Given how popular the keyboard is I'd have thought maybe someone from reddit or something would have whipped something up by now.

>> No.61136363

thx anon

>> No.61136447


>> No.61136533

The new instructions already clear most of that up. I'm trying to figure out how to manipulate layer switching keys, and that bit of the flash applet isn't properly translated and has a shitton of options in the dropdown menu.

>> No.61137719

where and are they gaterons?

>> No.61137945
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wtf... massdrop?

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