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/mkg/ - ALL THE MEMES Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous thread >>60914633

>> No.60949384

Should I buy a MagicForce 82 for $60, or is there something else you guys can recommend.

>> No.60949550

Sure go ahead

>> No.60949938

If you want a cheap keyboard that's about as good you can get for athat price

>> No.60950089
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>full-size wasd v2 + gateron keycaps
I have this exact combination. (the keycaps are dye-subbed, but originally gateron)
keycap choice is solid. I am not sure why you cannot buy two-tones like white and grey, though. I thought that used to be an option.
if you don't need numpad, consider tenkeyless.
are you getting cherry greens or clears? if not, you can consider a cheaper board like the rosewill rk9000.
the keyboard is still nice but flexes due to being full-size. I would imagine the TKL version does not flex as much.
overall it's decent.

>> No.60950119

also pic related. it has cherry clears

>> No.60950345

What's the cheapest keyboard I can get that comes with Cherry Whites? 60-65% preferred.

>> No.60950458

Magicforce68, but only the custom ones

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>> No.60950542

>consider tenkeyless
Yeah, I've decided to go with tenkeyless, since I don't use the numpad and it'll only make my mouse needlessly far away.
>are you getting cherry greens or clears?
I was gonna get either blue or browns.
wasd tenkeyless board is $95 with cherry blue by default, they ask for $15 more for clears and $25 for greens.
I don't know if they're worth the extra money.
I can't seem to find a rosewill tenkeyless board, do you know of any other cheaper tenkeyless barebones boards?

>> No.60950559

depending on country, you can find them on amazon.

>> No.60950640

not in cherry whites

>> No.60950644
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how is this achieved

>> No.60950686

I remember when that was the queen of cheap mechanical keyboards. So much has changed since then. Its done with pad printing

>> No.60950748

are you telling me there's no way to get a printed animu on a keyboard?

>> No.60950838
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unfortunately there is no TKL equivalent of the rosewill rk9000. cooler master's old TKL boards are pretty decent, but I'm not sure if you'll be able to find them in stock anywhere.

I've heard good things about these, but haven't personally used them. browns, unfortunately, out of stock for the ducky and only 1 in stock for the ganss.

the wasd v2 is not bad especially if you're not getting full-size since it won't flex as much. pic related is personally my biggest gripe with it. I don't like how those sides poke out as it looks ugly and unncessary. also the cable routing feature is terrible.

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I'd consider getting one of those, but I want blank keycaps (preferably colored as in pic related),
>I don't like how those sides poke out as it looks ugly and unncessary
Looks kinda nice imo.
I found this blank ducky https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=188
but I don't like the white keycaps and the lights on the caps lock and scroll lock.
It's one $135 and since the wasd board is $95, while the gateron keycaps in pic related are $40, it's not like I'd be saving some money by buying it.
I don't see any other options than a wasd tkl board and those gateron blank keycaps for now.

>> No.60951021

I just noticed that the blank ducky is out of stock.
Oh well.

>> No.60951202

oh sorry, I wasn't clear. I linked those keyboards for you to consider buying in addition to the blank gateron keycaps.
because I think they look a bit nicer.
mechanicalkeyboards also seems to offer free shipping, too.

>> No.60952190

Is it possible to get a custom keyboard from somewhere that only has 8 keys and arrows? For fighting games, like a little mini-controller

>> No.60952213

Make it yourself, there's no pre-made board like that. Closest you can get is some people in China make a custom numpad with more layout options including ones optimised for using it sideways as a 6*4 gamepad

>> No.60952320

I bought a mechanical keyboard but now I can't find it

>> No.60952691

Both WASD and Maxkeyboards offer custom printing options, I forget which of the two but that keyset was printed through one of them (It's in their customer gallery)

>> No.60952705

ANy good sales going on?

>> No.60952970

Is there a DIY controller that supports wiring individual keys on it?
I don't want a matrix. I want infine kro.

>> No.60953047

ducky one tkl or kbparadise v60? Only options I could find with cherry whites that I can afford.

>> No.60953277

If you can wait about a month the magicforce should come back on massdrop, and that will have cherry whites. But right now go with the Ducky

>> No.60954411
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What's the most artistic keyboard you've ever see?

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I'm getting this, I wanted something compact and this looks pretty good and good price.

>> No.60954456

Ducky one tkl is bretty good. Get the non RGB one and buy some PBT caps for it.

>> No.60954632

Was gonna get one but
>Estimated ship date is Sep 4, 2017
So I purchased a 40% pcb on ali and am gonna build one myself.

>> No.60954970

dye subbers are starting to do prints on the whole key and not just the legends, mainly so they can get white legends on pbt but they can do graphics too. this would be much higher quality than pad printing. but you would probably have to pay an arm and a leg to get them to make a custom anime set for you


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>> No.60955182

Does the James Donkey 619 have smaller keycaps like the Magicforce? I'm considering a Gateron Brown Donkey but the tiny chinaman keys on the Magicforce I bought was bad enough for me to return it.

>> No.60955271

the keycaps are standard size you idiot. even if you're using a laptop keyboard with wide and flat keys, the overall keyboard is still pretty small, so i don't see where you get the idea that the keys are tiny.

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Getting a num pad
Is this a good choice?

>> No.60955678
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>tfw fell for the topre meme

>> No.60956702

>Location (continent at least)
The U S of A
>Preferred switch type
Cherry blues (maybe whites)
>Form factor
Tkl or full. Im gonna be programming the most with some light vidya, but probably a tkl
Don't care. Need to be able to use in the dark, but don't want to be blinded
>Previous/current keyboards
Thermaltek Posiden or something

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hold me /mkg/, I think I fell in love
>tfw you will probably never get your hands on this beauty

but seriously, how does one go about purchasing this kind of stuff, I've never done that before
I checked on ebay and there were like 3 of them but none of them has this gorgeous dust cover which is the selling point for me
are there any other models similar to this?

>> No.60956994

What are good places to search for ISO keycap sets that ship to Europe? I'm looking into building a 65% kind of thing with some extra keys, but I can't find sets that are compatible with ISO and 65% and have some extra keys and aren't coloured like a fucking rainbow or something.

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>> No.60957022

The extra button right next to WASD is just useful. Having a shift that huge is just a waste.

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>> No.60957045

I don't like the colour of that, and does that even support 65%?

>> No.60957048

not really and you're moving your pinky too much to reach for the short left shift

>> No.60957070

Also, almost not sets have a € sign on the 5 key, which I would prefer.
>not really
Just fucking bullshit. I use it all the time.

>and you're moving your pinky too much to reach for the short left shift
I disagree. But if you think so than you could just bind \ to shift and shift to \. ISO's still better then.

>> No.60957390

>1u shift
I didn't think ISO could get worse but you went and proved me wrong

>> No.60957530

what keyboard?

>> No.60957614

plum84 topre clone


also comes in tkl and fullsize layouts, and in gateron varieties


>> No.60957636

also 70%, and this one has a choice of 45g which is unusual (almost everything heavier than 35 g seems to have been sold out or been discontinued)


>> No.60957923
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fell for the gmk meme (twice)

>> No.60957929

Has anybody built a keyboard that's optimised for typing speed?

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>> No.60958031

Yeah, no
I was thinking about smaller keykaps. Apparently no such thing exists. So you guys are really just playing around with LED lights and not actually building keyboards?

>> No.60958062

>smaller keykaps
they're already tiny chinaman keycaps. you can't get them much smaller than this without running into serious accuracy and ergonomics issues.

>> No.60958081

How about just a little bit smaller?

>> No.60958107


>> No.60958174

Standard keycaps are already smaller then your fingertips, unless you're 10 years old or a manlet

>> No.60958312

>mechanical keyboards are supposed to have better build quality and be more durable
>cheap chinese plastic
>exposed switches
>flimsy microSD connections

Okay so who makes ACTUAL nice keyboards that have solid build quality? I know you guys love the cheap chinkshit, but tell me what the premium is.

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I'm 198cm and standard keycaps are not smaller than my fingertips ,wtf are you talking about.

Is this your"standard" keycap?

>> No.60958346

is this what summer feels like?

>> No.60958347

The only premium among keyboards is self-made and custom ordered from koreans for about 500$/kb

>> No.60958443

He's probably american.

>> No.60958504

>aristocratic 75% layout
>anodized aluminium case and plate
>unassembled, so your highest skilled and most trusted servant can construct it
>comes with no keycaps, since no factory-default keycap set would be sophisticated enough for you

>> No.60958576

I have do decide between:

Qisan 60% with Cherry Blues (white)

DREVO Gramr 84 TKL with Cherry Blues(black)

Qisan 60% with Gateron Brown (black)

Which one should I chose?

>> No.60958622

are you sure they're cherry and not outemu

but anyway maybe the 40 euro qisan + thick pbt chink keycaps

>> No.60958644

Oh, and it will be used for typing, almost no gaming.

Yeah, my bad, Outemu for the first Qisan and DREVO.

>> No.60958969

Anything worse than gateron is not worth your time.
Cherry>Gateron>all other chink shit.

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>> No.60959057

hi /mkg/, what kind of switches do these sound like to you?

>> No.60959088

Topre is a rubber dome.

>> No.60959106

It is like mentioning membrane or touch-screen keyboard.

Whole point of top-re is non-contact.

>> No.60959130


What does this even mean?

>> No.60959154

Complete retard here... Why do mech keyboard brands matter when the best switches are all made by Cherry? I doubt nobody ever really cares about flex...

>> No.60959176

nice meme

>Anything worse than gateron is not worth your time.
not if you have to give up good keycaps to fit your budget

>> No.60959197

Manufacturers can fuck up on so many levels you would not believe
1.Keyboard does not even get recognized in usb slot
2.Software support is trash
3.Keyboard will melt after few days
4.Keyboard is ugly and yellow[james donkey]

I could keep going

Also cherry is really good but once you go gateron browns you never go back to cherry.

>> No.60959215

>3.Keyboard will melt after few days

>> No.60959219

>when the best switches are all made by Cherry

Get a load of this fucking pleb.

>> No.60959226

104 gateron board is 45$
tenkeyless is 35$

If you care only about switch and PBT keycaps
gateron+decent pbt set=> 45$

>> No.60959232

Never seen a keyboard with a microprocessor

>> No.60959251

If it has fancy retarded LEDs then it most likely has some kind of ARM processor in it to control the LEDs so you can switch between your SICK FLASHING PATTERNS.

>> No.60959289

I never quite understood the whole RGB meme
to not have leds in kb is fine,if you need to see the letters in dark you just need to learn how to type,anyone who does type more than month can remember where each letter is.

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It's gotten completely out of hand.

>> No.60959328

all usb keyboards have one and non-backlit keyboards can also have fancy programmable microprocessors with memory so you can remap keys etc

>> No.60959344

So what shoud I get then?

Cherry blues and 60%/TKL would be fine.

>> No.60959350
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I want to buy an Orion G610 (browns or blues)

Am I wasting my time/money?

>> No.60959357

We will have rgbs to put on top of our rgbs

Screenshot this and come back to it in year.

>> No.60959360

Those are microcontrollers

>> No.60959366

use the buyer's template

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>> No.60959451


>> No.60959496


>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Blue

Don't care

>Form factor
60% or TKL


>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech K120

>> No.60959550

There is no functional difference at all between a "microcontroller" and a "microprocessor". ARM is cheap, common, and well documented.

>> No.60959555

i don't think you'll fit both cherry switches and pbt keycaps into that budget, and i really think you should get decent pbt keycaps

gateron is good tho:

>> No.60959599

or this if you can stretch to $99


>> No.60959700

Yes, but generally speaking 8 or 16 bit chips running at less than 200 MHz are referred to as microcontrollers

>> No.60959709

you're just salty that your keyboard can't do this

>> No.60959737

hi /mkg/

I'm currently looking at various mechanical keyboards and I'd like to vent a bit.

Ducky, Collermaster, Gigabyte and Logitech all have the retarded right bottom row layout of [ALT] [Windows key] [FN] [Ctrl]. As a GNU/Linux user I use the Menu key to get the context menu all the time and I've never once used that windows key, it doesn't even do anything. I'd be fine with [ALT] [FN] [MENU][CTRL] but no, none of those brands make a keyboard that's not missing a rather important key.

And all Corsair keyboards have a retarded layout on the entire bottom row.

It's really annoying that there's basically no good mechanical keyboard for sale anywhere.

>> No.60959745

>no on-board memory
Yes, unless you like the LED wave everytime you startup your PC. Also unusual bottom row.

>> No.60959757

this is programmable so you can change the layout however you want


>> No.60959767

>It's really annoying that there's basically no good mechanical keyboard for sale anywhere.
That's because mechanical keyboards are a meme.

>> No.60959806

Why should gaming brand make a peripheral for non-gaming OS? Really retard don't you think.

>> No.60959873

and it even has alt fn menu ctrl by default lmao

>> No.60959900
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What's up with the Tada68 now? Everyone and their mother is memeing it on every purchase recommendation.

>> No.60959940

what kind of a question is that?

it has a non-pleb layout, it's good quality, has good keycaps, is programmable, and has white backlighting if that is your thing, all for a decent price of $99 including shipping

>> No.60959979

Where should I buy gateron switches from? Just aliexpress?

>> No.60959986


whats the difference betweeb the saber 68 and the tada68

>> No.60960005

none except you can get mod switches with the saber 68

>> No.60960029


I know it's good

>Guys I want a kb with [characteristic the tada68 doesn't have]

See what I mean?


AFAIK, they're the same keyboard, just a different name

>> No.60960067
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Can someone recommend something to me for under $100 Canadian and good for typing and accounting homework. Not too loud.


>> No.60960112

ISO tada68 when

>> No.60960240

Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED with Cherry brown switches.

>> No.60960252
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Well I'm 182 and even SA profile keycaps are small. Anything smaller and it will be uncomfortable for anyone

>> No.60960292

clean your keycaps

>> No.60960314

Her expression reminds me of a curious bird

>> No.60960665
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They'll just get dirty again. I work at a metal shop so it only takes a day for everything to end up looking like shit again

>> No.60960907

Holy shit man. Sometimes a lot of people like the same good thing. Is that such a bad idea?
For ex, almost every film people will recommend watching Citizen Kane. Does that make Citizen Kane a meme film now?
Stop with the meme everything thing already.

>> No.60960982

Then you need a numpad.
Maybe Rosewill RK-9000v2 with Brown switches. With Amazon discount, probably about your range.
Brown switches are still loud enough to make coworkers notice you got a new keyboard but not enough to make them contact HR.

>> No.60961004

Unironically good resource from Reddit

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>> No.60961023

You pay the brand tax with Saber but in return get to go for the Mod switches, which are... OK?

>> No.60961061

Ducky has dip switches on the bottom row that can do that

>> No.60961098

So... buy one that you can program?
I type on a TADA68 connecting to a Mac. Pretty much remap and switch keycaps for the whole bottom row.

>> No.60961137

The problem is that you need a non free windows applet to program it.

>> No.60961243

Oh , so you're that type.
Well, if you made the choice to prioritize idealism over convenience, you don't really get to complain, man. You don't go vegan and then complain that vegetable isn't as tasty as meat.

>> No.60961264

Thanks man, that seems great.

>> No.60961273

Official one is a flash applet which is not windows dependent

And there is qmk where you can compile your own firmware

>> No.60961376

>buggy applets
The official one is shit, but as >>60961273 said it uses qmk

>> No.60961807

Whatever keeps you sleeping well at night, man. I've never had any problems with my tada's applet, so whatever you say.

>> No.60961869
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I'm thinking about grabbing the HyperX Alloy with blue switches or Ozone Strike Pro also blue switches.

The only mechanical keyboard I have is Corsair Strafe with brown switches(pic related) and It's fucking horrible.
I dunno if this is the fault of Corsair, the brown switches or my oversensitive ears but there's this weird "ping" noise as if you were hitting something metal with a nail or something when clicking some keys. Already shipped it back and the new one has the same issue but different keys are affected.
I'm going full typewriter so that even if the new one is fucked like that then at least I won't be able to hear it amidst the clicking.

Any alternatives to those two that are under $100, blue, full, backlit and possible to get in Poland?

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>> No.60963279

Does it feel like crap compared to PBT, and have they started shining at all?

>> No.60963287


Did you even read what I wrote?

>> No.60963544

If you're this autistic then go buy all the parts and build a custom keyboard
there's open source firmware that you can use to program it too

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>> No.60963758

nah we don't have those here

>> No.60963760
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is it me or does this look dope?

>> No.60963853

looks neat

>> No.60963861

Buying suggestion
10 keyless white (was thinking poker 3) and good quality pink keycaps. Amy suggestions I cant find too many sites that sell keycaps. No budget

>> No.60963990

Ducky One, or maybe a Corsair Strafe if you don't mind the edgy gaaayyyymer aesthetic.

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>> No.60964379

can anyone recommend me a good, preferably black cable with some of it coiled up?
its for a tada68 so it needs mini b connector on the kb side

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Opinion on the board /g/. Goes on group buy as a kit today or tomorrow for a week.

>> No.60964532

Help me /mkg/ you're my only hope. Seriously I'm ordering something to ship out tomorrow. Please help me make a good decision I won't regret. I've had my current keyboard for 8 years.

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
tactile bump, low noise, not brown. what do? preferably best for gaming, although i do a ton of typing and work on it too.
>Form factor
100% and yes I use the NumPad enough to justify it.
>Previous/current keyboards
Saitek Eclipse II

>> No.60964535

>1u backspace
into the trash it goes

>> No.60964554

It's a kit so I assume the plate would allow for a 2u backspace

>> No.60964569

Probably worst board around,30$ chink shit looks better
Cable:Does not match the board
Keycaps,do not match cable or board
Screws are not in exact distance from each other
F1-F10 keys at worst possible place.
They better be in num-pad region or standard top or even better:no f+ keys just shortcut for them.

I rate 2/10 just because I like the base color,could be cute with colorful pbt keycaps and pink braided cable.

>> No.60964599

i dont think so. it has space for 1 switches so you couldnt fit it in simmetrically

>> No.60964615

Ducky One with cherry clears should suffice.

>> No.60964855

Matias Quiet Click 100% keyboard

>> No.60965182


only the best

>> No.60965324

>Paying more than $15 for rubberdomes

>> No.60965328

How are Logitech's Romer-G switches?

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No you didn't, that thing is more a gateron clear clone than topre.

>> No.60965499

Tried them once, thought they'd be somewhat like topres, but they're just mushier browns.

>> No.60965524

Link to the japanese keycap set?

>> No.60965586

lookup Topre Japanese Keycaps, it's not that hard

>> No.60965589

Is it possible to get wireless and mechanical keyboard?

>> No.60965750

Has been a thing for a while now.

>> No.60965803

From what i've found online they are mostly questionable chinese knockoffs, so, YMMV

>> No.60965895

No, you're the only person who's ever thought of that.

>> No.60965968

Where did you order these caps? This is a c-h-o-i-c-e keyboard setup for dual languaging.

>> No.60965992

>tfw I will never ever have a full set of black and purple double-shot PBT Topre keycaps

>everyone and their fucking grandmothers are offering keycaps with a cross-shaped stem but apparently cylinders are too fucking hard

Fuck this gay earth

>> No.60966042
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Those ones are from Originative, but the same manufacturer also makes EnjoyPBT

>> No.60966353

There's tons of open source (including open hardware) keyboards, if that's your fetish then build one. It's not that hard - you'll need to put in some effort but pretty much anyone can do it. Plus you'll get to choose exactly the features and layouts you want - complete freedom to craft your perfect keyboard.

Only downside is it probably costs a bit more.

>> No.60966394

Your fault for getting a $200 rubberdome

>> No.60966408

Just curious, what is /mkg/'s opinion on keyboard.io?

>> No.60966418
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Okay so I've pretty much narrowed down my search to pic related. Cherry Red switches, 100% ANSI and yes I use NumPad plenty, Double Shot PBT. I don't actually care for backlighting but it is included anyway.

My budget is $125, any other keyboards worth it more so than this one?

>> No.60966456

It's the best you can get for that budget, but are you sure you want reds?

>> No.60966495

I'm not. I keep bouncing back between Red, Brown or Clear. I do plenty of work/typing on it, but I want it to feel the best for gaming. Mainly play Overwatch and MMOs.

>> No.60966592

Cherry browns are pretty terrible, I'd suggest cherry clears or gateron browns. Reds are really bad for typing.

>> No.60966653

I want to get something like the Magicforce but in Iso layout (not eng...). What are my options ? I'm willing to hand-wire but I still need plate/case.

>> No.60966664



I guess you could call Topre that if you were grossly undereducated.

>> No.60966683

Are arrow keys a must ? I'd recommend making your own 60% with gh60 pcb, that is if you can go 60%.

>> No.60966744

It literally uses a dome made of rubber.

>> No.60966773

It's probably been more than a decade since I've owned a mechanical keyboard. I've typed on some since then, but I don't really remember them well... how do cherry blacks compare to clear? more force required?

>> No.60966792

less force and no tactile feedback.

>> No.60966810

I was under the impression that blacks required more force than clears. Black is 60g and clear is 55g isn't it?

>> No.60966829

no. use google moron

>> No.60966857


What's the pcb for ? Unless I want backlit, a controler is way cheaper.

>> No.60966893

What? For building the keyboard lol?

>> No.60967120

For mounting stabilisers and holding your switches in place, because you're not going to find a dedicated ISO plate without getting it made custom

>> No.60967224

What´s the point of ortholinear keyboards?
I want to fall in the meme of planck keyboard, but also I want a Model M.
What meme is best?
How much should I spend in any of these memes?

>> No.60967252

Are silver switches more similar to black or red switches?

>> No.60967317


Oh I see, I thought "universal" plates would take care of the stabilisers. I also thought stabilisers were mounted on the plate.

>> No.60967578

They can be, but plates cut for plate-mount stabilisers are not really commercially available. And universal plate just means it supports ANSI or ISO, so in other words the enter area has a big backwards L-shaped cutout.

>> No.60967793


>> No.60967873

wait wait wait. do people actually use these for typing japanese? even in japan i thought romaji input was almost universal?

>> No.60967887

concept is decent for this one but combining key labels & art is horrific

>> No.60968056
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I bit the bullet and went with this since I couldn't make up my mind. How badly did I fuck up?

>Double shot PBT
>Red Cherry MX
>blue backlit, don't care
>100% ANSI

Budget was $125, did I do well?

>> No.60968076
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Has an overpriced ABS keycap set ever reached 10,000 units? The most I've ever seen was 6000 for mito's XDA canvas, and that was thicc PBT. Not to mention this is also SA profile which means its gonna have a lot of defects and will take two years to ship

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I have the dye-sub version, and for that budget you did good. If you pre-ordered it before it shipped then it would've been $99.

>> No.60968139

The reason there's so many is because the drop time was increased by a few weeks. If Canvas was extended I'm sure it would sell the same or more.

>> No.60968820
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does anyone have the picture of the blue/green and white keyboard next to the Krispy Kreme mug?

>> No.60968865
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>> No.60968912

>mito's XDA canvas
delayed already isn't it?

>> No.60968915

any suggestion from you guys for my next tkl keyboards switch? i currently have a 122 key model m that i love typing with but the form factor is a little big and the ssk is way out of my budget. And i have a 60% with reds for games. ps i hate the feel of cherry browns.

>> No.60968939

Should I go for the KBD75 or Winkeyless's MX Mini?

>> No.60968949

V80 with whatever matias switches you want

>> No.60968950

yeah man thanks, can you tell me about this keyboard at all?

>> No.60968982

Feels shittier than Reds, which is really saying something.

>> No.60969005
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Its a ZZ96, which is a Korean custom just like the RS96, AMJ96, KIRA96, Wellfare96, and Lightsaver. There was a small run for it about three months ago, and it would set you back $350+ not including switches and keycaps.The main differences between all those is the design of the case, and the PCB

>> No.60969026

thanks man

>> No.60969028

is there anyone who manufactures those type of caps?
i really love the old style look to them

>> No.60969043

I got the two-tone blue/grey keycaps since it looks professional and fun.

While Red switches aren't ideal for beginners, you'll get used to it. After a while you'll soon learn to press keys halfway instead of bottoming out like membranes.

>> No.60969055

Those keycaps are SA Jukebox and are made by SP, but they have a history of issues with their SA profile keycaps. They did sell their old tooling to MAXkey who now also make SA profile keycaps but they also have problems too so they sell them in limited quantities.

>> No.60969066

has there been any other 68 form factor other than tada, Magicforce, and the varmillo? I really like the 68 form factor(specifically the magicforce/varmillo ones), and currently have a magicforce myself, but i would like to move onto a better one, with like options for cherry clears if possible

>> No.60969086

whats the problem with SA keys?

>> No.60969098

Magicforce sell some of their keyboards with cherry clears, but its a massdrop exclusive

>> No.60969101

i dont like the tactile bump in cherry browns, it just feels like an extra hard scratch among the rest of the scratchyness, do gateron browns feel any different?

>> No.60969110

Quality control issues.

>> No.60969144

Larger bump and smoother stem. Gaterons in general are a small upgrade over Cherry, except Blues.

>> No.60969152

yup, been waiting for another one as i missed the last one from a couple months ago, but i think it was a tkl and not a 68? or at least the styling was similar to tada where everything squished in.

while i;ve only tried cherry browns in bestbuy, i can say that my gat browns dont have any scratchiness to it and just go downs smooth.

>> No.60969163

like blatantly obvious Quality issues?

>> No.60969237

Yeah. Like deformed keycaps, legends not injected properly, misaligned stems, broken parts, etc. Don't worry though since the most common issue is off center stems and they send replacements

>> No.60969432
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Topre master race reporting

>> No.60969573
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Thoughts on this one? Is it solid and good?


>> No.60969607

lol shit i didn't see that somebody posted the same image as me.

Still wondering if it's a good keyboard for the price or if there's anything better.

>> No.60969761

seems outdated, why don't they include aliexpress/kbdfans

>> No.60969833

Yes it's solid, or you could go for fc660c.

>> No.60969925

what's it called?

i really like the layout but i'm not too sure about the aesthetics of the configuration as shown. maybe with a black case it would look nicer.

>Screws are not in exact distance from each other
where? the screw placement looks horizontally symmetric to me.

>> No.60970023

No-one on leddit seems to know KBDfans, they keep recommending AliExpress sellers with gaterons that cost twice as much instead

>> No.60970853


>> No.60971210

Chinks step up theyr game again,now you can have custom font for 5$ [laser etched]
Together for custom 104key pbt set 30$
Reccomend me coolest font for side-print keycaps.

>> No.60971315

Should I buy a topre?

>> No.60971376

If you want the best rubber dome on the market today then yes.

>> No.60971480
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Me too and I quite like it. Less annoying for my colleagues than my previous keyboard with cherry blues.

>> No.60971493

what cable?

>> No.60971718

Good palm rest?

>> No.60971797

i bet you flip your spacebar too, scum

>> No.60971921

It's honestly not worth the premium, not even the Type Heaven. Buy it if you have too much disposable income.

>> No.60971929

What is this beautiful contraption? Reverse searching yielded nothing.

They keyboard, not the noodle soup.

>> No.60971938


>> No.60971966

I'm going to need a name on that too

>> No.60971971
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my first ever mechanical, fucking love it!

>> No.60972010

Looks like a Strafe. What switches did you get?

>> No.60972011

What is Corsairs software like?

Im getting an old K70 off a friend but I dont want it constantly trying to push some shitty bloated software too me all the time like most of the mainstream keyboards do.

>> No.60972022


whatever it came with

>> No.60972087


>> No.60972099

i'm looking for a keyboard with brown switches, full numberpad, backlight, volume wheel.

>> No.60972133

How are you finding the 35g domes? I'm slowly getting used to them.

>> No.60972145

Logitech G610. But have no onboard memory it might annoy you.

>> No.60972204

I like 'em a lot. I have weak babby fingers, so 35g is really nice for me. I have gats browns at home and now I'm tempted to try clears instead (also gats, obviously).

>> No.60972226

Don't think non rgb k70 has software, and unless you need macros I don't think you should dl it.

>> No.60972253

By any chance, do you hear the springs rattling on certain keys? For example, O and PgDn on my keyboard seems to rattle more than other keys.

>> No.60972274

No, mine seems fine.

>> No.60972374
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What colour keycaps should I buy? I've been thinking some grey ones from Aliexpress, they look pretty schway.

>> No.60972394
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If your keycaps are extremely ugly ABS budget shit with badly laser etched gaming font,

Is it justifiable to pay 25$ for PBT set?

Left is what I have,right is what i want.
Manufacturer is NPKC but they all seem to do same color scheme.

>> No.60972409

One of my call center jobs where I worked as a chat agent had red switch keyboards. I was able to type up to 150 WPM on them. It'll take some getting used to again, but I'll like it. I just know brown is shit after having tried it for a couple weeks.

>> No.60972412

What is Zowies keyboard like?

Im really digging their mouse

>> No.60972455
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Are you guys aware that there is media control keys on Pok3r keyboard? I just recently discovered these and since there is no mention of them anywhere I'd say about it here.

fn + D = Volume up
fn + S = Volume Down
fn + F = Mute

And the next ones only seem to work in Windows.
fn + q = either pause, next track or previous track
fn + w =either pause, next track or previous track
fn + e =either pause, next track or previous track

Finding these were pleasant.

>> No.60972483

It is standard,it is probably why ppl do not mention it.
Even 35$ james donkey has them.

I wonder how many ppl use media keys anyway,my keyboard has 15 dedicated media keys and I never clicked one.
The "mute sound" one is good if you are teenager listening to your porn silently because mom is next door.

>> No.60972515

That's nice, my Corsair already comes with dedicated buttons for that stuff

>> No.60972587


could look at this one too, $40 for dye sub cherry profile (gateron?) keycaps, only caveat is that they're smooth (untextured)


>> No.60972658
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I'm going for side-print.
Thank you for suggestion,I was considering that one too but my second pick would be big letters EVA scheme [I know it looks kinda weird but I like it]

I just could not justify to pay 50$ for keycaps,while my keyboard cost 47$

>> No.60972833

Probs a dumb question, but does anyone have any idea on how well these topre to cherry mx adapters work? Or do you instinctually feel like they'd be garbage. Never used a torpe board before, so unsure how they'd even fit in.


I'm new to the keyboard scene and really liked the hhkb layout, but realized I'd have to get topre specific keycaps or just build or buy a speciality cherry mx hhkb layout board.

>> No.60972869

They feel like wobbly shit.

>> No.60972879

this would be an alternative if you're not specifically looking for topre switches


>> No.60972922

Damn, that's unfortunate

Yeah, that's the kit I was looking at.


How reasonable is the price on this? I have 0 experience other than soldering some switches onto a board and this is in the US already so I wouldn't have to wait for it to ship.

>> No.60973035

the price isn't too unreasonable but since you're new i wouldn't recommend it. the keycaps are thick and double shot but they're ABS so the texture will wear down after a while of using them. thick PBT keycaps are generally preferred. at this price point you can get almost any keyboard so you can look at e.g. TADA68 and KBD75 if you want premium quality just not with the hhkb layout.

>> No.60973103

I'm looking for blanks with a miami color set.

Not sure where too look for them

>> No.60973162


>> No.60973266



>Preferred switch type


>Form factor

Doesn't matter

>Previous/current keyboards
Rubberdome shit and laptop keyboards

I just want something really good, really high quality and I can easily buy it from wherever it is in the world. I'm not a stranger to using package forwarders, but I prefer if I can just buy the keyboard straight away without any trouble.

>> No.60973299

Yeah, you're right. I think I got a bit impatient and ran around tunnel visioned on HHKB. Taking a step back the layout looks pretty difficult to get used to, and I'm currently using a full-sized keyboard. I think I'll just start off with TKL and some more research and work my way towards it if I feel the same as I go on. Thanks man.

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>> No.60973840

Shit they raised the price. It used to be $75

>> No.60973919

iirc it was $99 (89?) with the sushi keycaps and $75-76 with the plain ones

>> No.60974052
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next month they plan to sell internationally, that's the cheapest store i could find, still around $4 per keycap.

>> No.60974063
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Don't forget about 8.5% cashback buying on ali and using skidka.ru.

>> No.60974332

maybe this with halo clear switches

or this:

and regardless of which keyboard you pick you shouldn't skimp on thick pbt keycaps

>> No.60974571

also you can look at korean customs but even 400 euros might not be enough



>> No.60974598

In descending order of price: Filco Minila Air, Anne Pro, and Drevo.

>> No.60974992

VB87 is like 130 bucks

>> No.60975034

Doesnt matter, but looking for best price/quality option
>Location (continent at least)
Poland EU
>Preferred switch type
Mx browns
>Form factor
Full, tkl
Doesnt matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Ozone strike pro mx reds. Missing it do much, but I want to try browns. Also I can build it by myself, but Im lost in case of finding good distributors in EU.

>> No.60975049

Are you from Czechoslovakia?

>> No.60975221

Are you serious? First of all I said that my location is Poland. Then Czechoslovakia isnt a thing since 92'

>> No.60975291

Anything from candykeys

>> No.60975370

convince me to replace my $5 keyboard with a mechanical one

>> No.60975381

Your WPM will go up by 100.

>> No.60975425


>> No.60975444

meme magic

>> No.60975455

feels much better, like going from instant coffee to real coffee, you don't know what you're missing

>> No.60975468

By being mechanical.
And this.

>> No.60975493

A good old IBM Pingmaster!!

>> No.60975566

That one uses linear alps

>> No.60975610

honestly i i play some gayms and do some typing a fair bit. One thing i immediately noticed is that my fingers doesnt get tired anymore especially when gayming

>> No.60975730

I bought mech keyboard but not because of tired fingers,I just like it as hobby
add o rings,make custom frame etc.

There is not hand comfort or speed difference between decent 5$ membrane and 200$ mechanical

I do less typos with mechanical brown switches than membrane tho,I m often unsure if i've clicked something already on my membrane


I reccomend you to order 50$ gateron full board like james donkey

If you love it,buy something better later.

Do not get memed in to 150$ tier 60% keyboard or you might really regret it.

>> No.60975805
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>Bought Filco Majestouch-2 several years ago
>It's served me well, but I feel like I want a change
>Decide to get one of those Unicomp keyboards because I want the Model M feel
>Look at eBay
>Filco's are in short as fuck demand and the cheapest model with my exact keyswitch and format is at $200

Holy fuck, did Filco's go up in value or am I crazy? Does $200 sound right for a full 104 key Filco Majestouch-2 with cherry browns? Other than the WASD being a little worn, it's in perfect condition. What could I sell it for?

>> No.60975824

so i got a saber 68 and it only has 6 key rollover for some fucking reason
why is this, and what are the odds it's going to get in the way of video games?

>> No.60975992

Filco was bought by the chinks and are no longer made in Japan. You can see that new TKLs are still 180 bucks even though they are made by the chinks now
If yours was made in Japan then it still held its value.

>> No.60976016

Most rubber domes are 2kro and people have no problem with those. Modifiers don't count towards the limit, and certain matrix designs allow you to press more then two keys at once. What OS are you using?

>> No.60976017

How much we talking? How do I verify it's a Japanese board? I was going to sell it for $150.

>> No.60976045

Look at the sticker on the back

>> No.60976083

Damn, it's made in Taiwan. So does $150 sound right for the full board with browns? Unicomp is only $90 so I get spending money either way.

>> No.60976084

That one has bluetooth. A normal filco TKL is 40 bucks cheaper

>> No.60976112

At that price I'd just buy a new one with free shipping.

>> No.60976121

windows 10
does it change anything?

>> No.60976142

Oh well, I figured the eBay auctions were a little inflated. All I need is $90 so not a big deal, I'll just take what I can get.

>> No.60976175
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Before I sell my keyboard, what does everyone think of the Unicomps? I

>> No.60976176

Some OS like linux and mac have problems with nkro so they default to 6kro. The tada does have nkro so maybe you turned it off. To turn it back on press left shift, right shift, and N all at the same time

>> No.60976215

I'd say this is a good review.
Its a bit old since unicomp now does custom keycaps

>> No.60976223

ah shit, thank you

is there a list somewhere of other firmware key combinations?

>> No.60976293

Reddit has them

>> No.60976374

>Decide to get one of those Unicomp keyboards because I want the Model M feel
>Look at eBay
>Does $200 sound right for a full 104 key Filco Majestouch-2 with cherry browns?
If you had tried the links in the OP or Unicomp's website, you'd be able to find a Unicomp for under $100 and a Filco for around $150. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.

>Filco was bought by the chinks and are no longer made in Japan.
I have a Filco that I bought at least as early as 2011 and it says "Made in Taiwan" on the back. When were they made in Japan?

I have one with the trackpoint because it's a nice way to control my media center (computer connected to big screen TV, played on MPC-HC, both hotkeys and mouse use are required) without having two pieces of equipment on my couch. The trackpoint is pretty slow and hard to use precisely and it also gets in the way of my mediocre technique when actually using the keyboard to type. For typing, the key presses are a little heavy. I might be able to get used to it, but in the long run, I think I wouldn't like to type on one. I prefer my lighter Cherry Browns with their much less springy tactical bump, even though they bottom out constantly.

>> No.60976401

What type of switch do you guys recommend for a first time keyboard?
Light typing and gaming will be going on. I'm thinking browns.

>> No.60976421

Logitech K120

>> No.60976473

Gateron browns. Clears are an option too, though they're a bitch to find at reasonable prices due to rarity.

Personally I said fuck it and went with blues. Still not delivered, I'll report back on how it handles games once I actually get it.

>> No.60976495

I think browns yeah. They seem like the most allround option to me. Blues are slightly less suited for gaming because of the difference in actuation and deactuation point. And red/blacks just seem stupid to me.

>> No.60976530

I loved the blues. They feel great but I just can see myself getting over them for home use. If I get my own office soon I'll pick one up with blues and clack all day at work

>> No.60976544
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can someone recommend me a keycap set that has the smaller shift I need for a choc mini? or should I just special order the unusual keys?

the carbon custom set on massdrop look real nice but to get the right keys to completely change them all I would have to spend like $100+

I just want to try something other than plan old black, and I think beige with some grey or colored modifier keys would look nice.

>> No.60976546

MX blues. They're around the same weight as a rubberdome, while having more tactile feedback.

>> No.60976571

Get DSA carbon on aliexpress instead. Its still expensive, but you get a lot more keys compared to SA carbon

>> No.60976578

How are 60% for gaming?

>> No.60976625

>To turn it back on press left shift, right shift, and N all at the same time
not that it really matters (assuming it doesn't cause a delay) but that's a pretty dumb combination, could probably press it by accident when typing normally

>> No.60976659

how often do you use your function keys or your numpad when gaming?

>> No.60976688

make it an auction (not buy it now), keyboard autists will probably eat it up if you clean it and take good pics, filcos used to be super popular until they got bought by the chinks

>> No.60976691

when are you ever going to press both shift keys at the same time?

>> No.60976715

if you can touch type properly you'll use both shift keys and when typing fast you might leave both shift keys down simultaneously. when are you ever going to see non-retarded software that has a key combination like that by default?

>> No.60976772

>could probably press it by accident when typing normally

>> No.60976778

when not being retarded

>> No.60976799

>only using the left shift
sure is summer

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>> No.60976843

In what non-retarded situation have you ever held both shift keys when trying to type a capital N?

>> No.60976930

i'm speculating that a reasonable person might do it by accident when typing e.g. CNN, NYC, NV quickly enough. of course, you wouldn't notice that you pressed because it wouldn't make any difference unless your software is all retarded, and i'm not claiming that it would be a frequent occurrence.

>> No.60976962

also you might make a typo when pressing a different key combination such as ctrl+shift+n

>> No.60976968

What is the basis for your "speculation"? When have you ever seen people mash BOTH shift keys at once while typing, aside from some autist who doesn't know how to type?

>> No.60976982

man i just realized i only ever use the left shit, i just adjust my entire left hand for left hand keys

still type at around 105 wpm, wonder how much faster i could actually get if i did it properly

>> No.60976987

What kind of idiot holds the Ctrl and Shift on opposite ends of the keyboard for this kind of thing?

>> No.60977008

i guess the idea is

right shift+C
then very quickly after, left shift+N

if you do this very fast you might hit the N before releasing the right shift

but most people don't use the right shift key i'm pretty sure

>> No.60977016

lmfao sure is summer, why should i even spend any time and energy trying to convince you, you're such a sperglord that you would do it the wrong way just to avoid dealing with your cognitive dissonance, enjoy typing with piss poor ergonomics


>> No.60977080

>right shift+C
>then very quickly after, left shift+N
This is a good example of someone who doesn't know how to type.

*I* use the right shift key when typing, broski. That doesn't mean that I switch which shift key I'm using when typing multiple capital letters. You can just keep holding the key down for more than one letter

>> No.60977110

try typing NA retard

protip: you're doing it wrong

>> No.60977133

when i type NA I'll use the left shift for both, i'll just slide my left ring finger to the A key

i'm pretty sure most do this but it's not the "proper" way

>> No.60977137

thanks but

>$160 at least

nah, I'll just buy something else. I guess 75% is always going to be expensive to replace all the caps.

>> No.60977177

if you try leftshift+n followed by rightshift+a maybe you can see how it feels more "natural" compared to moving your left ring finger to the side, at least once you've gotten used to it

>> No.60977179
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>try typing NA retard
Right pinky holding right shift + right index types N, keep holding right shift + left ring finger types A. Wow. That was so hard.

>protip: you're doing it wrong
I'm doing just fine, anon. Chill the fuck out.

>> No.60977183

That makes me hard.

>> No.60977190

lol fag

>> No.60977212
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Good one. You sure showed me!

>> No.60977232

>Right pinky holding right shift + right index types N
seems legit

>> No.60977246

Works just fine for me, anon.

>> No.60977256

i just don't see it that way my man
it's the difference between moving one finger or moving two, at least in that case

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You can't even conceive of a human experience different from your own, can you?

>> No.60977288

New thread: >>60977283

>> No.60977572

Its $90 for the set you need, unless you're going for that one with all the meme caps

>> No.60977681

it's a shame the $50 pbt dye sub carbon knockoff doesn't come with it, but 1.75u shift is pretty common on high end sets (enjoypbt etc)

there's these thick pbt double shot sets which fit choc mini perfectly:

>> No.60977693

wait no shit its gone. There was another one on those ikeyboard guys

>> No.60977713

but then again the stock black 1.75u right shift might blend in reasonably well


>> No.60977824

thanks, bro. I can probably put something together with this. worst case I have a black shift, which I can make work with a bunch of different color combos I think.

>> No.60978004

Unless you play games where double tapping is a huge issue, that's a meme. I think it may only be useful in like MOBAs or something, because I play FPS, strategy, RPG, and some random indie games and have never needed fast double tapping.

>> No.60978078

You literally don't need more than like 20 keys even in the craziest games, unless you're playing nethack/dwarf fortress. Those two games (and similar ones) use so many keys that they might be awkward to play on a 40%. Literally everything else would probably be fine on a 30%. 50%+ will let you play anything perfectly.

>> No.60978140

Would be useful if you specified what "that" meme would be, because I talk about 2 different things.

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This, nigger: >>60978078

Take a look at any game controller and tell me you need more than a half dozen buttons to play any decent game.

>> No.60978170

I mentioned double-tapping twice, so I thought it was clear I was referring to your criticism of blues and their hysteresis for gaming.

>> No.60978190

That's a stupid assumption because red/blacks also have different behaviours in response to "double-tapping".

>> No.60978333

Good point

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