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60848532 No.60848532 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

>what do you have
>what do you want
>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
>why is this placebo
>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype

Also, General mechanical keyboard thread.

>> No.60848542

first for mechanical keyboards are a goddamn meme

>> No.60848576

was looking at a vortex cherry blue for $60. so mad i didn't snap it up. price sky rocketed the next day.

got a bunch of gateron brown switches but i'm too lazy to put a board together.

>> No.60848577

What's a good non mechanical keyboard?

>> No.60848587

At least put some effort and copy paste the pastebins from the old thread

>> No.60848600

/mkg/ - Aluminum Case Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20161101152119/http://keypuller.com/)

Previous thread >>60789192

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Nice dubs. This one

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Gateron is better then cherry shit anyway. Supposedly a few hipsters on geekwhack claim cherry now has new smoother molds, but I've yet to hear a statement from cherry corp. mentioning anything about them.

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>> No.60848687

enjoypbt is based but the dye sub sets on aliexpress aren't that cheap

enjoypbt blanks are cheaper or these double shot which i'm not sure if they're enjoypbt but they seem to match


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>> No.60848753
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Happy Hacking Keyboard type S

>> No.60848787

So how bad are blues for gaming, exactly? Is it just the problematic double-tapping? Because I can't think of any games I play which require extensive double tapping, unless it's so bad that you can't properly strafe dodge but then that would actually be bad for typing. How is the general feel though? Anybody here plays games using blues and could lend some insight?

>> No.60848807

Never had any issues with them. Besides in china blues are marketed as the gaymer switch and the chink e-sport teams seem to have no problems with them

>> No.60848871

Kek, so what are reds marketed for in China?

>> No.60848904

Chinks aren't stupid enough to buy that awful switch.

>> No.60848912


Logitech K120, always.

>> No.60848935

why do they put legends off-center? legends on backlit keycaps need to sit on top of the led for obvious reasons but why does everyone put legends on the upper left corner on on-backlit keycap sets except on dsa profile

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>> No.60848956

I used to be massively interested in mechanical keyboards; the history of various manufacturers, various types of switches and its force curves, materials of keycap and methods of legend printing, artisan keycaps, diy artisan keycaps, spring swapping, soldering and desoldering my own keyboards, etc.
but you know what? I realized that I only need one fucking keyboard that just works, mechanical or rubber dome or whatever. Mechanical keyboards are time sinks and wastes of money, don't ever buy more than one, if you are autistic enough to fall for the meme.

>> No.60848969
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Can someone tell me the brand/model of pic related? Thx.

I use it daily at work. It's GOAT. I can use it for 8+ hrs without any pain. With mech ones, I have trouble after 4hrs or so. Also, My thumbs don't hurt.

>> No.60848988

Best non-mechanical for WASD/MMO gaming? Centered numericals, close F keys, etc

>> No.60848993

You know that's why its called a hobby

>> No.60849002

Is there a keyboard that exists with the f keys directly above the number keys without any gaps or offsets, like the choc mini, but also has a ten key? And the ten key has no gaps between it and the arrow keys or the home/insert/back/delete/pgdown/pgup keys? Basically no gaps on the keyboard but it's just all keys. Preferably something in cherry red, or gateron red/clear.

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does anyone know what this keyboard/key set is?

>> No.60849007

That's just a shitty Filco keyboard. It used to be made in Japan, until the chinks bought them and ruined it.

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>until the chinks bought them and ruined it.

>> No.60849024
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That's an HHKB Pro JP, with orange topre keycaps

>> No.60849038

>cherry stem looks like sandpaper

Christ, how pitted do your molds have to get before you machine new ones?

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Nice meme

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What do you think of this bad boy?

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>> No.60849079

are there any 75% with NO non standard keycaps

>> No.60849085

>staggered layout
It's fine as babby's first ergonomic keyboard. Get a matrix layout one of you really care, optionally with an actual split.

>> No.60849108

I've been following the shitposting fest

is the Model M really just a membrane keyboard?


>> No.60849130

it's that german engineering :^)

>> No.60849153

Topkek. What fucking faggots. >>60848346
>Ms were the fucking USB Dell boards of their day anyway, contextually speaking they really aren't that particularly rare or special

>> No.60849179

Blues have a hysteresis (how far you have to back them off after activation to reset) of 0.75mm while reds only need 0.1mm. Except you can't feel the actuation point on a red switch so the smaller hysteresis is unfeasible to take advantage of.

Browns have hysteresis about the same as reds and would in theory allow you to feel and float at the actuation point for multi-tapping. Except cherry tactility is complete shit so they're nothing more than sandy reds in practice.

>> No.60849198

they all mostly follow the same recipe

1.75u shift and 1.5u/1.0u bottom row are fairly common or you can get rgb/cmyw modifiers

the right hand side keys you can use with improper profiles (excusable because they are "special" keys which don't have the same ergonomic needs as the alphanumeric keys) or blanks or a flat profile

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I am so drunk. I am looking forward to this thing I ordered.

>> No.60849227



any 75% board you would recommend?

>> No.60849232

Its a buckling spring over membrane. That's why it has 2kro and a lower life cycle then cherry MX switches. The model F was a capacitive buckling spring, but the only ones with a somewhat normal layout cost close to 250 bucks

>> No.60849253

This may surprise you but not all membranes are rubberdome over membrane. The model M is a mechanical membrane keyboard.
In a similar vein the model F is a mechanical capacitve keyboard, and Topres are capacitive rubberdomes.

>> No.60849269

And to be specific, cherry MX is electro-mechanical.

>> No.60849292

Are there electro-chemical and bio-mechanical switches too?

>> No.60849308
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The closest you can get would be the kmac mini which only has 1 nonstandard key depending on the layout you choose. The F keys are on the left instead of on top, which some people prefer since they aren't aligned with the number row

>> No.60849314

Yes, but not for keyboards AFAIK.

>> No.60849328

wouldn't that be something like touch screens?

>> No.60849342
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> Have
Filco TKL \w Browns
Pok3R \w Blues (RGB)

> Want
Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro M \w Browns

Has anyone got their hands on a CM keyboard, and used their SDK to program it?
The Pro M is my ideal form factor for my home desktop, and I can program for embedded systems, so I'm wondering if their programming SDK is any good.

>> No.60849407

drevo gramr ($40)
>outemu switches
>comes with weak keycaps, should upgrade them if your budget allows

noppoo choc mini ($60)
plum 84 ($70)
>gateron switches
>solid build quality
>5.5u spacebar, which greatly limits keycap choices
>come with good keycaps by default

(can mod the plum 84 keycaps to block the light shining through:)

KBD75 kit ($168 without keycaps, unassembled)
>gateron switches (or zealios for $62 extra)
>supports different layouts including ISO (but i recommend ANSI layout)

>> No.60849451
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finally got my hands on a m0110

why does everyone cum over vintage alps, these tall creams have terrible stabilization. if you try to depress them on the edge of the key, the travel becomes very resistant. modern mx browns are 10x better at this, you can apply force at the very edge of the key and its still as light as if you pressed the very center

>> No.60849527

choc mini with cherry mx switches:


>> No.60849558

Are there even any other keyboards with the Pro M's layout? I've been wanting to get a smaller keyboard, but don't want to go full TKL because I use the numpad quite a lot.

I'd get TKL with a separate numpad before I bought one with meme LEDs. But I'd also rather just keep my Filco before I bought TKL.

>> No.60849575

have das keyboard with cherry blues

want something less clicky but still tactile and without the arrow keys

will probably end up with browns

>> No.60849583

I think there have been keyboards with similar layouts, but the Pro M is the only one that is easy to get.

The biggest problem with numberpads is that most of them aver very limited in their programming and a lot have terrible key-codes or layouts.

I've been considering just programming my own numpad for a while.

>> No.60849587

>still tactile

What did he mean by this?

>> No.60849602

browns are still WAY more tactile than reds/blacks.

>> No.60849621

>more tactile than a linear switch
they should proudly print that on the box

>> No.60849633

nah man i did a fun little project with browns and reds mixed in and there's the smallest difference, and when you type fast there is no difference at all, browns reds and blacks are complete shit

>> No.60849666

My colleague uses reds for typing.
I'm used to typing on browns, and every time I have to type something on his keyboard I just cringe... It feels horrible.
When you're comparing them side by side, yeah, there's not a whole lot of difference, but when you use one switch for hours on end, then move to another, there's a massive difference.

>> No.60849667

Exaggerating the scale of a microscopic value relative to zero is a little disingenuous, don't you think?

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thanks anon thats really helpful, any experience with any of those?

>> No.60849791

Nah, having used both extensively there really isn't.

>> No.60849800

Nah, having used both extensively there really is.

>> No.60849826

Where did you get topre keycaps?

>> No.60849864

Novatouch or aftermarket Chinese sliders can be used to make Topre keyboards use MX keycaps.

>> No.60850043
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Just bought a K70 RGB... Did I fuck up?

>> No.60850069

>what do you have

>what do you want
Jelly POM caps

>> No.60850073

The Surface Touch Type pad is the most comfy keyboard I've ever used on my lap

>> No.60850078

How much did you pay? If it was more then 120, then yes

>> No.60850088
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>*type cover

>> No.60850123

yeah I paid about a hundred bux more...

>> No.60850190

>grid layout / no staggering

should i just build my own or

>> No.60850222

Wait you paid more then 200 bucks? Dang... for that much I would have gone full memer and gotten a korean custom

>> No.60850268

Good build quality?

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>> No.60850375

sorry if this is a dumb question but

will this key set fit a magicforce 68 or 61-key poker?


>> No.60850404
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Not really corsair has LED problems, and has some of the second worst stock keycaps. Its not the worst, just second worst. They'll end up looking like pic related after a couple months since they are thin laser etched ABS. The worst part is that since they are nonstandard finding good replacements is hard and if you do, you'll end up paying more for limited options. The build quality of the case isn't that impresive since only the top pannel is alluminium like most chink boards while the rest is plastic. A shine 6 is cheaper and has much better build quality, with even more software features. Corsair software is littered with bugs and some macros will even crash the keyboard requiring a reboot. In the corsair marketing blurbs they make a point how the RGB software can let you play snake since its so advanced. But the cooler master pro can also do that, and its much better since the software is easier to use. The cooler master keyboard is also cheaper and has better build quality then the corsair

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>> No.60850437

Have Realforce 87u in beige.

I don't really want any other keyboards. Although, finding keycaps without getting those weird Cherry adapters is a real bitch.

>> No.60850441
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What I have:

Corsair K95 RGB
CM Storm QF Pro
Magicforce 68

What I use:

Magicforce 68

>> No.60850455

poker 1, 2 or 3?
and why?

>> No.60850475

I'm pretty jealous of that line up, but why main the magicforce?

>> No.60850482

>Paysage d'Hiver

>> No.60850498
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Not really sure desu, I just type really well on it. Kind of regretting having those expensive boards that just sit on my desk and arent used.

hello metal friend

>> No.60850516

Good luck replacing anything if it dies man. I had one that failed on me before and it really was not worth it.

>> No.60850574

Pro tip, if it says 104 set or anything like that, it's standard ANSI layout and will fit the MF68 or any standard 60%

>> No.60850701
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>be me
>think oneself as l33t
>I don't need no fucking letters
>buy blank keys
>a week later and fucked up passwords later causing me to change to some shitty other password that I know I will forget
>fug I'm not l33t
>threw away old keys
Fuck /g/ please tell me this thing is good.

>> No.60850744

alternatively, learn to touch type u silly bitch

>> No.60850749

Just a membrane with plungers. Better buy Masterkeys Pro with white LED instead.

>> No.60850821

Ducky Keyboards produced after Oct 2016 will have the new molds

>> No.60850931

Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 is pretty sex

>> No.60851020
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i have such a boner for these f107's
i need one NOW

>> No.60851199
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so i have a question that i an hoping that i can get some feedback on

i own a near mint early production 1390120 model m and have been thinking about changing the style, like paint, keycaps, ect

would this be a good idea or a bad one, i mean this model m is in near mint condition and has ZERO cosmetic or internal issues

pic related is from a few months back when i first got the model m and it hasn't changed at all since

>> No.60851214

I'm looking at blacks for gaming, how are they?

is it right mindset to get mechanical keyboard so I wouldn't have to buy keyboards anymore?
Buying cheap kb every year starting to annoy me.

>> No.60851301
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I bought this white LED version and they arrived earlier today.
For those who have used it before, are they any good?

My old keyboard was a shitty Corsair K90 so this layout will take a little while to get used to.

>> No.60851317

They're good. I like the medium weighting and the linear feel because I am an unrepentant bottoming out Neanderthal.

>> No.60851330

>because I am an unrepentant bottoming out Neanderthal.
that's the reason why I look at blacks, thanks anon

>> No.60851337

That's my current keyboard, pretty good actually. Only bad thing is fingerprints magnet frame.

>> No.60851364

should I get a poker ii or magicforce68?
I'm mainly typing, with occasional gaming, so are browns the best switch for me?

>> No.60851395

Damn, not that I'm ever going to use it, but the keyboard legs click pretty loudly when you close them.

>> No.60851500

return it if you can

>> No.60851537

>use keyboard legs

>> No.60851556

>not that I'm ever going to use it,

>> No.60851561
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Keyboard died, all spairs had the half-backspace of WHY

Bought this on a whim because 40 bucks and two day shippin. How bad did I kek up and will this last me two years?

>> No.60851711

your paying extra for the tonka truck look, but if that's your style

>> No.60851727

>half backspace

Fuck off normie retard

>> No.60851777

If memory serves me correctly, since EagleTec seems to have the same OEM as Redragon, you didn't fuck up that badly for the price. You'd better like Outemu blues though, since they're louder than Cherry MX blues.

>> No.60851833
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Should I just get this and switch out the switches with gaterons?

>> No.60851884

Best 60% with cherry clears? I was thinking pok3r. I don't care about rgb or backlighting at all and I'm not on a tight budget.

>> No.60851893

>Custom mechanical switches for ultimate long-lasting performance
boy i hope that means gaterons or you gonna be in dead switch city

>> No.60851940

Just see if it costs less than a keyboard with gaterons already. If not just get a keyboard with the switches you want instead.

>> No.60852099
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Retard here, I'm wondering what kind of mechanical keyboard would be best for someone doing average college shit plus some gaymen.
I'd kindof like it to be on the quiet side with an unobtrusive design.

What would I be looking for?

>> No.60852152

I feel a little crazy looking at a 61 key board. I do frequently use the F-keys as media keys so it's probably not worth it for me.

>> No.60852224

Just get a 75% instead.

>> No.60852253
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I switched from a mechanical back to pic related after about 4-5 years.
Feels so fuckin comfy. I can't even describe. holy shit.

>> No.60852563

What FILCO keyboard do you reccomend me?
Price does not matter

>> No.60852618

Don't paint it. Switch the keycaps if you want. Basically, don't do anything non-reversible.

Wonder if you can put a wrap on keyboards. Itasha that thing up.

>> No.60852644

Are razer keyboards good? Not that I want to buy one but my cousin bought one and he says its good and if I really can't find a zowie celeritas I might consider it.

>I'm an SEA monkey

>> No.60852657

Fuck. I don't know how you can stand it. I was close to snapping with the squishiness of that keyboard at work. Not even shitting on it for being non-mechanical. I found an old Silicon Graphics membrane keyboard in a common area and just swapped the HP for it. So much better. No one complained because I'm assuming they thought their shitty old SGI keyboard was upgraded to a snazzy new HP squishfest.

>> No.60852678

No, what the fuck look for Corsair ones.

>> No.60852707

What Corsair can you recommend?

>> No.60852714

Corsair Gaming K70 RGB
a second one so i can have it at my workplace too
i got browns cause i liked the feel of them
>chink cherry mx knockoffs
i don´t :^)
i didn´t :^)
i didn´t and i can :^)

>> No.60852770

Not that anon but you can also look at Ducky keyboards. You can't really recommend a keyboard to anyone, you need to try them and have a feel, it's just like buying a mouse.

>> No.60853008
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>I fell for the tkl meme
>I can't use alt code anymore and typing more than 5 numbers is literally worse than hell

>> No.60853063

Want to know the cure for that? A usb 10key.

>> No.60853079

>what do you have
Rosewill RK9000 browns, RK9100 blues, Unicomp buckling springs, Topre Type Heaven, Corsair K70 MX Speeds

>what do you want
Nothing in particular. Thought about getting a Ducky One with Cherry MX Blues and donating 2 or 3 of my current boards, but then I remembered I don't really care for blues and the buckling springs already covers my tactile click switch.

>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
My first mechanical keyboard were MX Browns because I didn't know shit and wanted a babby's first keyboard. Now I'm typing on it again and it's not bad. I don't know if I should keep it or not since I already have too many boards.

>why is this placebo

>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
Tried a Magicforce with Gateron Blues. Hated it and returning it tomorrow.

>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
I haven't used a cheap rubber dome in years.

>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
I don't tho.

>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
I can tho.

>> No.60853211

What about Gateron browns? Are they better than "just sandy reds"?

I'm trying to see if I can not compromise on typing while still being able to game properly. Judging by the replies I'll probably just go with blues - and if it's really horrible, get myself a gamepad like a logitech g13 or something, but or sounds like it will be fine.

>> No.60853221

what's the difference between the poker ii and the 'new' poker ii?

>> No.60853227

This looks gay as fuck. I want one

>> No.60853236

The tactile bump is basically nonexistent on Gateron browns.

Gateron's linear switches are slightly better than Cherry, but the tactile ones are typical chink quality. Even the Blues feel sloppy to type on.

>> No.60853255

>what do you have
Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L White LED (Brown switches)

>what do you want
Ducky One white LED with brown switches maybe. I like the dedicated LED for num/cap lock.

>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
Because blue can't double tap as fast as brown.

>why is this placebo
I'm sure my keyboard isn't snake oil.

>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
Sorry but my current keyboard equip with Cherry MX.

>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
But I'm faster with mechanical keyboard.

>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
Not yet, not yet.

>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
But I can.

>> No.60853262

I think the only difference is the USB Type C support and some improved cable handling.

>> No.60853278
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Are there any keyboard hardcases for 80% keyboards?
Do they make backlit keycaps like pic related?
I have a varmilo vb87m

>> No.60853293

Anyone knows a mkg with a trackpad like the one in OPs picture??

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>> No.60853307

But everyone is saying gaterons are the best thing since sliced cherries

>> No.60853314

Ultimate Hacking Keyboard with the thumb module :^)

>> No.60853320

Maybe it was the keyboard OEM, but I wasn't impressed with the Magicforce with Gateron Blues.

>> No.60853325
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Gateron browns are pretty comfy although I only have rubber domes to compare them to. I think the "dirty reds" meme is a meme

>> No.60853334

So what's with the zealios meme? At first glance they seem like chink shit but for some reason they're more expensive than all the other chink shit.

>> No.60853348

Smoother browns is nothing but disaster.

>> No.60853379

I find myself wishing browns had the tactility of clears, or that clears simply had lighter springs.

>> No.60853399

Yeah clears seemed ideal for me but I couldn't find anything reasonably cheap with them.

Chink clears knockoffs when?

>> No.60853628
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Thinking about a Varmilo VA87M. They come in Cherry and Gateron switches.

I'm coming from an old Apple Aluminum scissor switch keyboard and like it's actuation force of 80g, never had problems with fatigue. I tested MX browns but they are way, way too soft and light, can't feel the tactility at all. Blues are okayish (I guess the additional auditory feedback makes it feel a little more tactile) but I'd prefer a little more resistance.
Unfortunately I couldn't test Clears and Greens. Going by force diagrams it looks like Greens are more similar to what I'm used from the scissor switch keyboard while the Clear's tactile bump looks really mushy (or not sharp, elongated on the diagram).


Scissor switch: http://www.ergopedia.ca/images/key_force_comparison_graphs.jpg
Green: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/guide/graph-mx-green.jpg
Clear: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/guide/graph-mx-clear.jpg

>> No.60853653

>The tactile bump is basically nonexistent on Gateron browns.

Granted all MX-style switches have shit tactility compared to real tactile switches, but Gat browns have a more pronounced bump like on Cherry clears.

Their linears and tactiles are buttery smooth and highly regarded, but their looser mfg tolerances aren't appropriate for the two-part sliders in clicky switches, leading to large inconsistency.

>Smoother browns is nothing but disaster.

They're objectively better than Cherry browns. The bump is actually larger and the smoother slider travel means the sensation of the bump is more pronounced than it would otherwise be.

>> No.60853671
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also more expensive than cherry mx clear.

>> No.60853698

I'm surprised he was able to stop production. There's no alternative to Cherry clears besides Zealios.

>> No.60853728

I made my board with tactile grays and swapped out the springs with vintage blacks a couple years ago. I don't remember any Cherry stuff being too hard to find as long as you bought a lot of a hundred or so.

>> No.60853739

Fug. So if I have a choice of gateron blues or browns on a keyboard I'm looking to buy, should I steer clear of the blues? I've never used a mech before so I have no actual experience off which to base my decision, but until now I was leaning towards blues to get the "full" or "proper" mech kb experience.

>> No.60853764

>>what do you have
corsair quickfire rapid -i
>>what do you want
nothing specific
>>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
because i got the keyboard for around $7 because of a server side error.
>>why is this placebo
i don't think it is. mechanical keyboards are more satisfying to type on.
>>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
I don't.
>>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
because i'm used to it. but typing on mechanical keyboards once you get used to them is faster.
>>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
i didn't
>>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
because i got it for a great price. now i can start learning to touch type. i use just few fingers and i get around 90-100 wpm anyway. hoping to learn touch typing real soon.

>> No.60853819

Double fug, I actually only have a choice between gateron blue, black or red. What do?

>> No.60853833
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Does anyone have any experience with the clueboards?

>> No.60853851

>what do you have
More than I need. I have six keyboards and I should sell a couple.
>what do you want
To not fuck up the SMD soldering on my beam spring controller or solenoid driver.
>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
I hate browns, filthy scratchy things. Hate blues too, because they're too light.
>why is this placebo
Comfort isn't exactly placebo, but meh
>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
But I just have a bunch of really old ass murrican and german made shit.
>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
I don't. Pretty much same speed across the board. It's layout changes that slow me down.
>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
I can't remember. Last time I got fancy keycaps was a couple years ago. I got in on a group buy for some odd shaped modifiers to fit my odd 75% board
>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
I can touch type but I spent that much because IBM 3278 compact beam springs aren't $30 anymore

>> No.60853861

None cause they are shit. Get a leopold instead since the koreans still have some sense of quality left in them.

>> No.60853896

Looks like you got a cheap TKL. Mine does alt codes just fine, and has a numpad on layer 2. Not that I ever use it.

>> No.60853993

>what do you have
Steelseries 6gv2 with blacks.

>what do you want
I always wanted a pok3r or a KBP v60

This is only the questions I can awnser since I'm not related to the other ones lol

>> No.60854184
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Why the fuck are GMK keycaps so expensive?

>> No.60854214
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Premium ABS

>> No.60854255

So they'll shine after two months instead of one?

>> No.60854336

I own the choc mini and I really like it

>> No.60854430

Are there magicforce style keyboards without the fucking backlight, leds or whatever the fuck??

>> No.60854509

here you go. for almost half the price, too.

>> No.60854517

just disable the lights?

>> No.60854525
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>Premium ABS

>> No.60854566

So how do these switches compare with gateron or cherry, I can't see those without backlight,

I'm autistic, so that's not an option.

>> No.60854568
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Asus Claymore Core with blacks for $160? will I overpay much?
it's considered cheap here for mechanical keyboard, they go for ~$180 for most models

>> No.60854610

What shithole do you live in? Just get a royal kludge keyboard from chyna if you want programmable RGB lighting for less then half the price

>> No.60854658

Tesoro Excalibur Spectrum
yeah, my other choices are something like this for $140 or logitech for $190 and romerg

mechanicals are rare here, not many people buy them, i don't care about RGB bulllshit it's just hard to get a mechanical keyboard of decent quality

>> No.60854717

Then just buy a keyboard off aliexpress for 1/3 the cost

>> No.60854755

Question: What do you think about the spacebar on that Magicforce?
When I went to mech board store to buy my first mech board, I tried both the MF and the TADA68, and the MF's spacebar felt so... janky and loose compared to the TADA's, even though they're both brown switches.
That was the main factor behind my choosing the TADA over the MF.

>> No.60854759

won't have localized caps, I can touch type but when you have to switch from language to language all the time I have to double check

>> No.60854763

Why two mice?

>> No.60854769

Then buy whatever shit keycaps you need. Its still a lot cheaper then what your shithole of a country charges

>> No.60854861

is claymore any good though? shitty logo issue aside

>> No.60854927


>> No.60854943


>> No.60854993

The oem for asus keyboards is called azio or something like that. Just buy direct from them instead. I wouldn't buy that shitty keyboard tho. Just get a magicforce on aliexpress

>> No.60855037
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Just bought this Ducky Keyboard literally 3 hours ago for $199.00 AUD

Did i good?

>> No.60855060

>$199.00 AUD
I was gonna say that's a lot, but then I took a look at aussie pricing and its only 9 bucks more expensive then here in america. Its a great keyboard, but it has no RGB software. Its all hardware based which is nice since most RGB software is trash.

>> No.60855087

I'm thinking of buying the Daskeyboard 4 Ultimate. Is this a bad idea? What if I want to buy aesthetic keycaps in the future? Daskeyboard 5C looks interesting too. Hmm..

>> No.60855088

Stupid question: I see a lot of people saying Taihao's ABS keycaps are very thin. Can you really "feel" the thinness of a keycap? How does that work?

>> No.60855126
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too overpriced. They've also switched so that their newer keyboards have chink shit switches instead of cherry. Also you get some of the worst possible keycaps. Thin pad printed ABS

>> No.60855143

i got this refurb dell keyboard for 3 euros.

suit yourself

>> No.60855169
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Just got myself a nice 486 computer-in-a-keyboard with white ALPS switches. I cleaned it and would like to replace the keycaps by dark gray ones. Where can I find a 101+ set (QWERTY or AZERTY) given it has a big enter key?

>> No.60855209

No where. Tai-hao makes both alps and big enter key keycaps, but not big enter key alps keycaps

>> No.60855225

>Just buy direct from them instead.
costs more.

>Just get a magicforce on aliexpress
60%. nope.

so what you are saying there is nothing wrong with it and all you don't like is that it's asus and too expensive in general

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>> No.60855281

I see. Money is not too much of an issue as long as it's not over 250 bucks or so. I do like the stylish knob and the simplicity of the design. Do you have any suggestions? I'd like to stay far from unprofessional-looking edgy gaming keyboards.

>> No.60855319

lol what? Azio keyboards sell for like 60-70 bucks and magicforce makes 100, 80, and 60% keyboards. If you want to spend your money on a sub par product go ahead.

>> No.60855328

You paid an extra $60 just for RGB so personally I'd say you did bad.

>> No.60855363

Aww fuck I just don't want to mess with paint here

>> No.60855380
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If you want something minimalistic then go for a cooler master pro or a ducky one. Both keyboards are programmable so you can change the layout however you want. I think the ducky has two more programming layers then the coolermaster keyboard, while the cooler master pro has a whole bunch of software for it. Other then the keycaps everything else is the same.

>> No.60855401

you do not apply this to my local reality
corsair k70 is more expensive than claymore for example
prices are retarded here, believe it or not claymore is the cheapest cherry black switches keyboard I can get so I'm trying to know how bad it is

>> No.60855428

You can modify the stems. Since this is for just 1 keycap it shouldn't be that much of a hassle

>> No.60855448
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forgot pic

>> No.60855483

Any non-mechanical keyboards that aren't normie-tier flat wireless trash?

>> No.60855497

Happy Hacking Keyboard Lite2

>> No.60855535

Listen here you dumb nigger. I'm trying to help you, but you're being vague as fuck. I have no idea what your budget is, what kind of keyboard you're looking for, and where you live. I'm gonna assume it's Brazil since your dumb ass can't read when I first asked you where you lived about an hour and a half ago. You aren't the first Brazilian to come here and ask for keyboard advice, but you certainly are the dumbest. There are plenty of good cheep mechanical keyboards on banggood, aliexpress, and taobao from brands like Tomoko/Vistech, Magicforce, Royal Kludge, Eagle tech, E-element, Keycool, Plum, Noppoo, IKBC, Varmilo, etc. But I can't help you if you don't give me some basic info.
use this: http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG

>> No.60855570

No bad, I'll think about it. It bugs me a bit that's the main key I will use (DOS so lots of commandline)

>> No.60855619

someone did make 3-d printed adapters, but it makes the keycaps about 3mm higher.

>> No.60855639
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forgot pic again. I gotta stop doing that

>> No.60855793

okay, Russia

everything mechanical costs 10 000-12 000RUB
claymore is 9 000RUB
ali is shady as fuck recently for russian customers as far as I know so I have to rely on local stores

why would I buy keyboard with kailh or romerg switches for 10k when I can get cherry blacks for 9k? maybe there is some magical store I don't know about?

>> No.60855817

Hey looking to switch to mechanical keyboard from my old cheap keyboard from the nearest computer shop.

200 EUR




Form factor:

don't care

some cheap non-mechanical keyboard from the nearest computer store


>> No.60855834

What's wrong with buying from say germany? The cheapest g80 is only 40€ and comes in blues, browns, and blacks. You can even buy it from surplus stores for 10€, but they all seem to come with black switches

>> No.60855869

Ducky has a bunch of European partners and they make keyboards in almost every euro language there is.

>> No.60856007

Difference ends up being about 300 RUB=nothing but you wait 3 weeks with possible(though rare) customs fuck ups and no keyboard.

g80 from store that sends to russia is 98 euro that's 8400RUB, but in reality of actual currency rates that's about 9600RUB you have to go through a bunch of crap to exchange it lower

>> No.60856141

You can get Leopolds between 8000-9000₽, while they are great keyboards they all have stealth keycaps for some reason.

>> No.60856581
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oh, thanks, found it in RU store
Leopold FC750R looks good to me

stealth caps meaning side marked?

>> No.60856666

yeah the prices aren't too bad as they are about 20-30 bucks more expensive then the leopolds in the US

>> No.60856986

50 EUR


Membrane works, not sure about switches, won't use for gaming.

ISO, but I don't really mind using something else

>Form factor:
TKL, could go smaller


Logitech K120

It has to be wireless.

>> No.60857112

>It has to be wireless.
For what purpose?

>> No.60857174

I want to keep my setup as minimalistic as possible.

I've been living on cable management hell for years and I'm tired.

Oh, and a not so stupid reason, I usually move my setup along a pretty large desk when I'm working, and cables are a pain in the ass.

>> No.60857181

The cheapest wireless mechanical keyboard I can find is the RK61 for €50

>> No.60857282

I made sure to post the wired one, I had to use the wireless one and it was garbage. It had a bad angle, the batteries kept popping out, the whole board was way too small and didn't have wide enough keys, just total garbage.

But I do really like scissor switches, and the wired one is much better in my opinion. I also like laptop keyboards, so I guess I'm pretty biased

>> No.60857359
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what are some good RGB keyboards?

>> No.60857390

nice oxymoron faggit

>> No.60857437
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realforce high pro :^)

>> No.60857462

Looks fine but it's 100€ with shipping.

>> No.60857487

>>what do you have
Lolita Spyder
>>what do you want
Would like to try a model M
>>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
Pretty much true, also the keyboard making less noise is not a draw back for me.
>>why is this placebo
It isn't
>>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
Because I'm a poor student
>>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
I don't
>>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
I didn't
>>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
I didn't, I am

>> No.60857502

just pick standard free shipping

>> No.60857563
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>> No.60857635

What's the reason that Taiwanese upside-down ISO layout exists?

>> No.60857679

you mean the American big enter key

>> No.60857737

big ass enter isn't American. It was the norm everywhere during the 'AT' era

>> No.60857857

No such option.

I could live with a cable if there's no other choice.

>> No.60857862

It was first introduced to us by IBM, who at the time was American

>> No.60857880

what euro country are you in?

>> No.60857897


>> No.60857990
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The keyboard I use the most is a KB Paradise v80 with cherry clears. Sorry for the shit picture.

>> No.60858000

same keyboard, but with an option for cherry switches at an extra 10 euros and free shipping to spain

>> No.60858123

Thanks man, may the trips enlight me.

Is this a known brand? I always feel insecure about buying this kind of stuff from the chinks.

>> No.60858491

Ayy someone saved my board.
>>60849024 got it right.

>> No.60858544
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>anons said the JP's staggered keys are bad
>bought one anyway and find out its much better for touch typing

>> No.60858576

Its known enough that some box stores in America carry it.

>> No.60858686
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Rate my keyboard

>> No.60858845

having to charge/replace batteries and possibly having to deal with connection issues doesn't seem very minimalistic to me

a lot of keyboards have built in cable guides so you can route the cable off to the side or toward your monitor and the cable can be removable

>> No.60858869

the best keycaps aren't shine-through, and if your keycaps aren't shine-through you're better off with white backlighting

>> No.60859236

There's a fucking camera by the track pad. Kek.

>> No.60859300

What would you suggest for a wired one?

>> No.60859322

Got my first keyboard(Blues)

I can't say I really like it, but for sure - it made any other keyboard feel like a toy.

>> No.60859328

Any advice?

>> No.60859331

Speaking from personal experience I've used most cherry switches *Not green*. I personally love clears because they are stiffer browns, and my biggest problem with browns how light the actuation is. They do not feel mushy nearly as mushy as browns, and are very easy to touch type with. I would recommend.

>> No.60859350

get a leopold
Gateron browns and blacks/reds are the best switches. If you want blues stick with cherry instead.

>> No.60859407



>> No.60859573

are these the same as enjoypbt? they're quite affordable for dye-sub thick pbt


>> No.60859631
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The Qisan looks fucking fine, thanks.

Second one, as I expected is only keycaps. Already saw some chinks buying them and getting mad.

Also found this Drevo Gramr for 40 bucks on Amazon.

>> No.60859694

>If you want blues stick with cherry instead.
But the keyboard I'm looking to buy only has a choice of gaterons. This is literally babby's first mechanical keyboard - I've only used a shitty gayming mechanical which probably has reds at a friend's house a couple types, and never extensively used any mechanical switches.
Are gateron blues still worth avoiding, or will I be fine since I don't know any better?

I'm really torn between blues and browns, but I'm leaning towards blues from a general perspective (i.e. kinda want to get a clicky kb). Should I forgo that and get the browns instead purely due to the fact that they're gaterons?

>> No.60859731

get the gateron blues. there's nothing wrong with them.

>> No.60859867

I actually just had my switch tester delivered and the gateron blue seems slightly less tactile than the cherry blue, despite the clicks being quite similar, the effect being that it seems like it would be easier and more comfortable to only press the cherry up to the click (because you have the tactile bump there) than the gateron (because the bump is much less pronounced and you, or at least I, end up over-pressing and bottoming out).

Is this just me being autistic? (Could very well be just confirmation bias since I was just told gaterons are worse, especially since a single switch is in no way representative of the typing experience.)

>> No.60860288
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Yes, return it while you still can. You fucked up big time.

>> No.60860310

My first were MX Brown, then moved to Blue and then Buckling Spring. Blues feel like shit ever since I got the buckling springs board.

>> No.60860391

Is it RGB?

>> No.60860402

Are there good modern buckling spring boards that aren't models M/F or newer versions thereof?

>> No.60860416

I think you are over-thinking it.

>> No.60860431

Thanks. Clears really sound like the switch I want. But after I used blues a bit I'm worried I'd miss the click (for feedback reasons, not because I consider the sound pleasant)

>> No.60860741

No because the start-up costs for buckling springs is really expensive. Unicomp's are cheap because they bought the equipment from Lexmark.

>> No.60860811

Darn. So no 60% or at least tkl buckling spring for me

>> No.60861087
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There is a TKL buckling spring. The nice thing about it is that it uses a slimmer case then the normal model M. If you do want a 60% buckling spring those do exist as either a new production 4704 model F, or a moded unicomp.

>> No.60861280
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Fuck calipers

>> No.60861446
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Dear tripfag who recommended the tada68 to me yesterday, could you pitch in your opinion regarding these two claims?

>> No.60861479

Anything else similar to this?
Something that has a volume knob like this Ajax AK60 or the Daskeyboard Professional

>> No.60861491
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Forgot image

>Anything else similar to this?
>Something that has a volume knob like this Ajax AK60 or the Daskeyboard Professional

>> No.60861529

Azio makes one like that

>> No.60861566


>> No.60861597

I see. I looked into it. Seems like they don't have ones with knobs protruding outside the keyboard. And the large text is kinda distracting for a touch typer. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Lol. That would add an extra wire on my desk which is bad. And there's something beautiful about how the knob is positioned in the AK60/Daskeyboard4. Thanks though.

>> No.60861679
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I have it. It's decent. If you get it for $20-25 it's a good deal. The LED's aren't super bright, the keys don't sound very mechanical, and that wrist rest is near impossible to remove once you clip it in.

The LED's are either on or off, no variation. The volume knob is super convenient though.

I was moving my stuff around and accidently broke one of the risers on the back so I can't prop it up anymore.

7/10 keyboard. You can probably get better chink keyboards though for the price.

>> No.60861695

Do you use alt controller?

>> No.60861723

I've been using this bastard since 1997 and I've had no interest in upgrading. Comfy, and does well in gaming and typing.

>> No.60861774

Nice me too

>> No.60861822
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Gateron browns are awesome, I'm currently building a board with them. They're really tactile but also light and smooth. I'm currently making a board with them, after which I'll make another board with them.

>> No.60861839

But what about the blues? Would you steer away from gateron blues and get browns (since there's no cherry blue option), or am I actually being autistic and ovethinking it?

>> No.60861854

but if he wants clicky keys, gateron blues aren't bad at all, them not being identical to cherry blues isn't a good reason to avoid them

>> No.60861892
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why it didn't post the picture fuck

>> No.60861916

Can equivalent used ones be found today? I'm really curious now but I don't know how I feel about forking over $325. Or is 3+ decades too much even for these tanks to survive in good, usable condition? (Did they even have this layout back in the day?)

>> No.60861917
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does anyone know what this keyboard
model is ?

>> No.60861936

>buy a small keyboard
>have to buy a seperate numpad

>> No.60861968

see how the mouse is in between the keyboard and the numpad, it's a much shorter distance to move your hand from typing to using the mouse and vice versa

>> No.60861978

So learn to do everything with the keyboard

>> No.60862005


>> No.60862060

The few originals that are found sell for $500+. There is a broken one on ebay for 250 bucks, but that needs another 150 bucks in mods to get working again.

>> No.60862086

That is called a TKL since it has no numpad. That style of keycaps is called a floating design. Popular keyboards that look like that include Varmilo VA87 and that chink shit on massdrop for 200 bucks

>> No.60862229

Cherry MX Brown
>Form factor:
No thank you
daskeyboard standard

Looking for a TKL with Cherry MX Brown switches and blank or front keycaps. Minimal as possible.

>> No.60862269

Right, so if I ever want a small buckling spring without too much hassle, I have until the end of this month to order.

Could I expect the resale value of these to go up, or at least not fall, once the production run ends? I might actually get one if I could have the option of getting most of my money back if I end up feeling like it's not really worth it and getting buyer's remorse. Or am I being an idiot and falling for an epic meme?

>> No.60862334

Don't expect to double your money right away. It would take atleast two years before that happens. Also the whole project will be made available to public after its shipped, so it is possible for someone else to come along and make his own version

>> No.60862373

wait until they've been proven to live up to the quality of the originals. the chinks will probably keep producing them and sell them cheaper. and wait for the slimmer 60% case, this is just the classic reproduction case.

>> No.60862406
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I'm unfortunately not familiar with gateron clicky switches, so I can't tell you much about the blues, other than that I'm not a fan of blues in general. If you want clicky switches then blues are pretty much your safest bet.

>not make the whole thing yourself
What kind of pleb are you

>> No.60862413
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Can anybody explain how in the fuck this is supposed to be in any way "sturdy"? What's the projected keylife on these buckling springs, it can't be anywhere near what the modern switches have?

>> No.60862424

>the chinks will probably keep producing them and sell them cheaper.
But the buckling spring patent expired ages ago. Why would the chinks suddenly start producing them now?

>> No.60862435

>it can't be anywhere near what the modern switches have?
It's not. It's higher

>> No.60862448

because now some guy has done the research and paid for the tooling and they've set it all up for production

>> No.60862449

How are you not wearing the shit out of the spring by bending it in ways springs are not supposed to be bent? Isn't the fact that all of these Model M's "survived" only because they sat unused in a garage for 25 of their 30 year life?

>> No.60862478

No, but I want one just for bluetooth.

>> No.60862488

>done the research
Forgive me if I'm being a retard, but since the original ibm designs are not patented anymore, what research was involved?

>Set up the tooling
Now I'm definitely being a retard, but if everything is set up for production, why the highly limited run?

>> No.60862492

the activation on a cherry switch relies on physical contact which completes an electrical circuit. the activation on a model f buckling spring switch is capacitive.

>> No.60862612

i wouldn't imagine that the patents go into very much detail about the production process and there are many other things that go on "behind the scenes" like choosing the backplate material and thickness and so on to get a faithful replica

the limited run comes down to funding. if he could pay the factory millions of dollars they could make a lot of keyboards but he wouldn't be sure if he could sell enough of them to get a return on his investment. but the factory might make a bunch of extras while they're at it to get a bigger profit for themselves or a chinese businessman might pay the factory to make some for him.

>> No.60862657

Ah, that makes sense.

>> No.60862691

>what do you have
>what do you want
vb87m and a freestanding numpad
>why did you have to buy a keyboard with browns because you couldnt use one with blues since you still live at your basement
the basement walls are too echo-y
>why is this placebo
it's not
>why are you poor and you have to chose a keyboard with chink cherry mx knockoffs
gaterons are better than cherries, tried them both
>why do you type faster at your rubber dome $5 keyboard
I don't, the m key doesn't work on my rubber dome laptop and never has
>why did you spent your paycheck on those fancy keycaps
because they look good
>why did you spent $200 in a keyboard and you aren't able to touchtype
I am

>> No.60862693


don't know whose saying the less staggered keys is bad because after trying hhkb jp I can't go back to a normal keyboard, but then I've always disliked the extra staggering in bottom row

>> No.60862699
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Anyone know model of this ibm keyboard?

>> No.60862723

Thats a dime a dozen IBM KB, which is just another rubber dome keyboard

>> No.60862797

Some dude is selling this one for $5

>> No.60862956

why are so many of them so small

>> No.60862970


>> No.60863105

Alps SKCC are shit. I've never seen someone praise them.
Vintage alps are only worth it if they are in pristine or very good condition, a little dirt and they're fucked.
If the board was stored in poor conditions or heavily used without cleaning all its life, then the switches are going to feel like shit.
And judging by your pic, i'd say that board meets those conditions.

>> No.60863132

What exactly did you do here? I wouldn't mind trying this.

>> No.60863169

I have one that was used in a school up until 2010.
I cleaned it up and use it to this day.
The pbt caps are actually shiny on it. But it still works just fine and feels no different than my barely used m15.

>> No.60863221

topre is a meme.

>> No.60863246

What clued you in? The fact that its a memebrane keyboard, or that its made by dumb nips.

>> No.60863273

I bought one.

>> No.60863307
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it's more efficient. your hands can't be everywhere at once

>> No.60863325

What are those keys next to kana and alt for? Have a kb with the same layout and always wondered.

>> No.60863780
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>40 dollar keyboard
>detachable cable
So what is the catch honestly? Just the color and limited light option? That is still a bargain though for gaterons. I can but these bad boys on and the color scheme would be fixed.

>> No.60863783

is there a keyboard with brown switches and has bluetooth connectivity with a smartphone which it has a dock for? i think i've seen it but with rubber dome keyboard

>> No.60863808

Anything that comes from Japan I am always weary of. There are too many weeaboos who think japland is some sort of utopia with high-quality shit. In truth they are just overpriced garbage.

>> No.60863824

>brown switches and has bluetooth connectivity
>has a dock

>> No.60863835

I remember seeing one in taobao while I was browsing. It had a stand, but used some cheap chinky switches and were blues.

>> No.60863843

so i could hook it wired to the desktop and also connected to phone, and could switch back and forth?

>> No.60863852
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That sounds gay. Other then memes why would you need a physical keyboard for a phone?

>> No.60863857

nah donkeys are solid. Reason it got dismissed was bc of the ridiculous name desu. Look at reddit and search jame donkey in the the mkg subreddit and they all dismissed it b/c of its name. Fucking ridiculous.

>> No.60863912
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Your best choice is probably the Lofree, which is kinda OK overall and mostly form-over-function, but it can do exactly what you want.
>Do you work with multiple devices at once? With lofree you can connect up to 3 different devices. And easily switch between them with a quick switch on the keyboard.

>> No.60863946

so that i can easily carry on my communications while having access to a keyboard that i'm already using.

>> No.60863951

Ducky One

>> No.60863971


>> No.60863981

It's not a meme, it's just your average chinkboard.

>> No.60864004

Depends on which thrift stores you visit. Goodwill purposely keep their good stuff in the back so they can sell it at auction.

>> No.60864016

>average chinkboard
>yet has gateron switches and detachable cable
Get out newfag

>> No.60864024

that's pretty average to me

>> No.60864026

I have the same need as yours, but honestly it's probably better if you install the desktop versions of those comm apps and just control everything from your PC.
>>tfw living in the Apple bubble and can answer calls + send SMS from my Mac with no extra software

>> No.60864030

A below average chinkboard won't work at all, so yes it's average.

>> No.60864046

Why are you even here if you people know nothing about mks?

>> No.60864052

Any idea how2cop in the uk?

>> No.60864058

This is /g/, no one knows anything about technology.

>> No.60864060
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OK, so what's the deal with the F5 → F8 buttons here? Why do I see so many people do this kind of things to just those 4 keys? Is it a Windows thing?

>> No.60864065

Ebay and hope they ship to Bongland.

>> No.60864070

lol wut? Have you seen most chinese keyboards recommend here. Gateron switches and detachable cables come on most of them. Sound like you're the newfag here

>> No.60864084

I am talking about the general specifically made for mk enthusiasts if you know nothing about it and try to derail valid facts. All you guys are being cancer, then again I guess you guys are irl too.

>> No.60864095

The shipping is the same price as the fucking board

>> No.60864107

how about you fuck off. Magicforce, plum, and rk are basic chinese mech keyboards that come with gaterons and detachable cables. The magicforce gets recommended all the time, but you're a troll anyway so I'm not gonna give you any (You)s to jerk your little dick with.

>> No.60864121

I don't think gateron or detachable cable are very special feature for premium or anything.

>> No.60864144

Its for switching from hiragana/katakana and also for cycling through different words with an IME.

>> No.60864158

>Gateron switches and detachable cables
Compared to other shitty boards that get recommended here, yeah they are. Average are cherry mx ones cause gaterons are objectively superior.
its recommended cause they are good. I guess you are not that smart either.
for 40 bucks yeah they are.

>> No.60864182
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lurk more newfag

>> No.60864201

>for 40 bucks yeah they are.

>> No.60864244

>Believing in a shitty meme pic for facts
>Also proves my point cherries are getting inferior
Thanks senpai for proving my point. I hope your mother loves you all including your stupidity.
Sorry if you don't know anything about mks. There is google for you brother.

>> No.60864261

>buckling springs
Where did u get this shit pic?

>> No.60864268
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But anon they are

>> No.60864290

whatever newfag. Keep recommending shitty keyboards with shoddy build quality. I'm sure it'll help you get rid of that buyers remorse

>> No.60864327

>gaterons are objectively superior
Only price, the rest is subjective.

Fuck Gaterons smoothness, I hope Cherry keep the old sandy mold.

>> No.60864335

Take your benign shitposting here!

>> No.60864339

>Shit he is right...
>I guess I will make shit up and leave
Alright kid. I hope you recommend ur gaymer keyboard to everybody and spoilers I got a donkey, magicforce, and a rantopad that still work. I don't want people to buy your shit boards that a cheap chink can do and better.

>> No.60864366
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What a surprise I have some of those too, but I don't go around acting like a fag. I'm waiting on my magicforce 82 from massdrop to come in. How about you?

>> No.60864392

Yeah, no need to hold on to that board then. Ill take that overrated shitbox off your hands for you.

>> No.60864402
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Oh hey me too, finding a keycap set is going to be a bitch. Also if you know that the boards are above avg quality why are you shitting on it then?

>> No.60864408

$500 and its yours. Bolt modded of course :^)

>> No.60864435

Cause you're a faggit. There's nothing wrong with cheap keyboards like the james donkey, or even the ajazz. Just you and your cancerous discord community. I mean it from the bottom of my heart: Fuck off!

>> No.60864452

>There's nothing wrong with cheap keyboards like the james donkey
There is, it's ugly.

>> No.60864464

for $30 beggars can't be choosers

>> No.60864468

uh yeah there are nothing wrong with them. What discord are you talking about? The fags at /csg/? My complaint is people are shitting on a clearly above avg board.

>> No.60864469

Not when this exists.
I've already gotten one from there after an anon linked it a while back. To my surprise it actually came in and works.
Im thinking about doing the bolt mod. How hard is that to do btw?

>> No.60864476

how much was shipping?

>> No.60864530

I'd buy Redragon with Outemu switches instead.

>> No.60864559

You would rather get a shitty board then an above avg one? Alright, your own dumb mistakes then.

>> No.60864574

I'd pay for inferior product that not hurt my eyes.

>> No.60864575
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Thats one of the worst keyboards out there. I'd get the tomoko instead if you wanted something in the $20 range.

>> No.60864629

>A keyboard literally hurts your eyes
wtf are you? 5? autistic and 5? Considering you buy a keyboard to type on you would buy a keyboard that would have superior switches. How about paying more for an aesthetic you like, poorfag.
tomoko are shit...

>> No.60864668
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>tomoko are shit
Take that back or.... I'll kill you!

>> No.60864676

>How about paying more for an aesthetic you like,
I do, and with superior Cherry switches too.

>> No.60864688

oh so it is some weeb meme. Tomokos are objectively shit with their shit switches.

>> No.60864697
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>superior Cherry switches

>> No.60865238

what is different between the brown one on black vs the brown one on what appears to be clear

>> No.60865400

top row are all cherry brand?
bottom left row look like gaterons

I believe gaterons require a bit more pressure and feel smoother compared to cherrys. both have a tactile bump.

>> No.60865672

oh ok. i use the cherry browns and was thinking that they'd be even beter if they were harder like blacks. so would you suggest rather using brown gaterons?

>> No.60865768

difference would probably be negligible. I was trying to look up the force required for activation, but they look the same. 45g.
cherry browns = gateron browns

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