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/mkg/ - TKL lovers editions

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com (Never ever coming back)

Previous thread: >>60309399

>> No.60340305


Just get it. CoolerMaster's mKBs are fine as well.

Get a Corsair mKB as a last resort.

>> No.60340562

TKL is shit

75% or bust

>> No.60340650
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Best layout.

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>not 65% with numpad that has fn keys on second layer

>> No.60340749

Oh dude, what's up!

I got a question meng, where'd you score the JPN EnjoyPBT? Did you get yours off the AliExpress was it?

pls, although I am eyeing on MagicMeme68.


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Yup, got it off aliexpress, the vendors usually offer various kits to choose from.

>tfw found smd-rgb pcb on aliexpress but don't have any switches that would do the LEDs justice
Life is perpetual suffering

>> No.60340915
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waiting for gbs to ship is suffering

>> No.60340986

Thanks man. I hope I get to find some pocket money for the ultimate weeb dream.

That's a nice set as well. Lemme guess.. 1 month for the shipping?

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not so much the keyset but more the pcb and plate to support that layout. the GB for them is 1 month from shipping still but I've been waiting since feb

>> No.60341085
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nth for EnjoyPBT

>> No.60341352

I feel sorry for Cherryfags who insist GMK are the only good keycaps, they'll never know the joy of EnjoyPBT.

>> No.60342136

so you're not the anon who got it with gaterons, you got it with noppoo switches? i haven't had any chattering problems with my noppoo blues. but see if you can fix the chattering with the Fn+10 and Fn+11 debounce settings.

>I had the strangest problem with my noppoo choc mini today. I found that when I typed two of the same character in a row, e.g. 'e' in deer, the second letter wouldn't register unless I typed deliberately slower. So I every time I typed hello it would come out helo, deer would become der, etc, quite frustrating. Turns out I had played with Fn+F11, didn't see any feedback and thought nothing of it. I randomly decided to play with these mysterious keys again, and sure enough tapping Fn+F10 a few times made the problem disappear.

>Debounce helps this problem by allowing the keyboard to take all inputs from within a set time frame, and register it only as a single press. Inherently a necessary solution, but in some cases the default time intervals might be too short (double presses), or too long (reduced input rate due to clustering too many inputs into one).
>Fn and F10/F11 either increase or decrease the debounce on the keyboard, enabling you to adjust for keys that might be double tapping or if you're particularly insane/sensitive, the ability to adjust the debounce down to increase your WPM/APM.

>> No.60342331

these > tkl > fullsize

>> No.60342376
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that's quite an interesting layout. my next keyboard will definitely have a split spacebar in a configuration like that or similar. i'm hoping that by the time i get a new keyboard split spacebars will have gone relatively "mainstream".

>> No.60342511

What are the benefits of a mech keyboard?

What are the cons?

honest questions.

>> No.60342586

Durability, customisability, subjective feel

Price, noise

>> No.60342603
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are zealios worth it? i want browns but smoother, but still want tactility

>> No.60342617

Where do I buy POKER if I'm a western slav without paying for shipping with 1 day of my work??? Do I just go chink shit version?

>> No.60342672

Consider trying Gateron Browns first if you haven't already, then make some ergoclears, then only consider Zealios when you've exhausted all reasonable options.

>> No.60342713
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That's gateron browns you're looking for. They're like ergoclears, but better.

>> No.60342715

If you are ever going chink shit, might as well look at MemeForce (MagicForce) or at Anne Pro.

I'm pretty sure there are better chink boards.

Poker is bretty good tho, I wish you could find yours sometime soon.

>> No.60342723


+1 to these guys. Gateron Browns are pretty nice.

>> No.60342759

I didn't know GON actually shipped products, the impression I got from geekwhack is that he takes your money and sits on his ass for 2-3 years until you give up.

>> No.60342802

also, and this has already been covered by durability, customisability, subjective feel, but i think it's worth mentioning that you can have PBT keycaps which are very durable and will keep a pleasant texture for a very long time

>> No.60342830

I love mine but I haven't tried any gaterons

>> No.60342833

there are some pretty good chinkshit options depending on your budget and what you're looking for

for example:

or magicforce 68 with gateron switches + aftermarket thick PBT keycaps

>> No.60343061


ok which this is great for the same amount of money I can buy 10+ normal keyboards which will probably last longer than 1x mech kb


What customisability option? Different keys? I can just rebind them. so just ricing left?

>> No.60343151

>What customisability option?
Everything. You can build literally any sort of mechanical keyboard you want. You can swap keycaps, you can choose and tune switches, you can have whatever physical layout you want, you can program them however you want, you can do anything.

>> No.60343349
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He does ship them, you just gotta prod him a bit. When I ordered that PCB he said he'd send it in a few days. After a week I heard nothing, so I sent him an email asking about my order and it was subsequently sent out two days later.

>> No.60343404

So are Elite Keyboards ever going to get anymote TKL 55g Realforce boards or am I going to have to overpay off eBay? Do any of you happen to know if any of the eBay Realforce sellers are reputable at all?

>> No.60343593

I enjoy mine. I honestly don't understand the gat brown recommendations, the tactility is weaker than my wobblios.

>> No.60343637

sometimes less is more

>> No.60343649

Hey, if you're looking for just a little something, more power to you. As long as all the facts are on the table.

>> No.60343677

My black 60% pok3r rgb mx silver comes tomorrow. Can't fucking wait.

>> No.60343693
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Is it better to go ergonomic than mechanical?

>> No.60343708

He already said he likes browns. It makes sense to recommend the best browns on the market instead of switches that cost at least four times as much and he may not like.

This shouldn't be hard to figure out.

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why not an ergonomic mechanical?

>> No.60343743

>you can have whatever physical layout you want,

How? Do you send the design to somebody in china and they make it for you or is there a modular component system?

>> No.60343769

no. the only exception would be if you have freakishly large and fat hands so that standard keys are too small for you.

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No you make it yourself the hundrends of different PCBs and controllers.

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>tfw waiting for Planck massdrop to ship

>> No.60344095

Don't forget to send glorius pics

>> No.60344108

What a typo. Feelsbad.

>> No.60344120

My Quickfire TK had regular windows keycaps is this a different keyboard or what? I just stopped using mine after 3 and a half years.

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So how good are Vortex Pok3r keyboards?

>> No.60344177

I'm very happy with mine, plus massdrop fucked up and sent me one with blues instead of browns so they sent me the one with browns and I get to keep the one with blues.

>> No.60344185

Reminder that the fewer buttons your keyboard has,
the better a programmer you are.

>> No.60344200

they're good but there are a lot of options these days if you want something cheaper or something different

>> No.60344210

Real programmers use keyboards with only three keys, 0, 1 and send. Do everything in binary.

>> No.60344235

It's CM Masterkeys Pro M.

>> No.60344281

Lucky! Was it your first 60% keyboard?
Mainly interested of Pok3r but what are some other great options?

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>> No.60344383

Yeah it was, had been using a Quickfire TK for the last 3.5 years or so, I was considering swapping the blues for ergo-clears or something but I am happy with the browns so I think I'll just sell the blue switch Pok3r and maybe build a keyboard in the future.

>> No.60344395

see >>60342833


>> No.60344512

What's the most expensive keypuller that doesn't come with a set of keys?

On another note, do enjoypbt caps come with a keypuller?

>> No.60344543

So on your binary keyboard, do you just type out the scancodes? Thinking of building a binary keyboard myself to save desk space, but I don't know if I should make it so that I can type UTF-16 characters or just scancodes.

>> No.60344598


>> No.60344608

Probably HolyOOPS' CNC Aluminium keypuller with built-in tool to adjust the fit of their keycaps

>> No.60344629
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I'm not sure why you'd want to get the most expensive one, those wire keypullers are all the same.
That being said, I remember seeing one with a wooden handle on maxkeyboards, and one with a metal handle that shows up on assdrop every so often.

I don't remember them coming with a keycap puller, given the price, it would be a nice addition, but if you're buying a keyset that price, chances are you already have one anyway

>> No.60344630

I don't have one, because I'm not a real programmer.

>> No.60344648

>On another note, do enjoypbt caps come with a keypuller?

>> No.60344667

Why are people like this?

>> No.60344673

What type of layout is this called?

>> No.60344704

Thanks, yeah, I'll probably just twist some wires through a wooden handle since I feel like I need something better than a knife. Figured I'd see what the most overdesigned keypuller was, though, just so I could get an idea of what features may be useful.

>> No.60344743

The thing is I want a keyboard with ISO layout, nothing wrong about ANSI but I just like ISO a lot more. Besides it gives me Ä and Ö without needing to combine keys.

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There's not much to overdesign there, it's just two pieces of wire with a handle. You can also use paperclips

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That's true.

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>There's not much to overdesign there

>> No.60344814
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The nice thing about mechanical keyboards is that you can fine tune them to your liking. Do you wan't a mechanical keyboard thats quieter then a rubber dome, then get one. Do you prefer heavy tactile switches, well then get one. Or do you enjoy no tactile fedback, and want smooth operation, then get one. Rubber domes are usually a medium weight switch, so if you want something lighter or heavier get a mech.
Mechanical keyboards are much more durability. I've had several rubberdomes over the years and they always end up as mushy shit, and feel like ass to type on. My model m is over 30 years old and it still feels crisp to type on, unlike some of my rubber domes that are only 3-5 years old.
Cons: Cost
You can get some mechanical keyboards for under 30 bucks, but your options will be very limited. That really is the biggest problem with mechs, cause a mid range keyboard would cost $80-100

>> No.60344847

first for wheres my blowjob

>> No.60344853

Expecting my caps with purple legends to arrive in a week or two and I'm pretty damn stoked

>> No.60344878

why are keyboards and keyboard accesores always out of stock everywhere

>> No.60344950
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Sure, but that's still just your regular wire and handle cap puller with some switches slapped onto the handle.

Because I keep buying everything

>> No.60345009


>> No.60345011

I'm not sure if the layout has a name but I don't think there are many like it, the Plum96 is similar.

>> No.60345107


RS96, ZZ96, Duck Lightsaver, Welfare96, B.96 fake, etc

>> No.60345384

If they had 4 extra programmable keys above the numpad it would be great

>> No.60345499

is mechanical keyboard just another way to rice your setup?

>> No.60345610

it has practical uses not just rice

>> No.60345759

They don't cook rice what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.60345857
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too bad this mx buckling spring design wasn't popular enough, would have been cool to try a board with them.


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They're nothing but rice. They're literally made of rice, which is why they're mostly manufactured in asia.

>> No.60346001

Capacitive bucklesprings or bust.

>> No.60346149

~£100, willing to go over though
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
I don't mind

>> No.60346234


if you don't like the design it looks like you can unscrew the silver/yellow things on the sides and put different feet on it and you can upgrade the keycaps

>> No.60346361

nvm i'm not sure if they're removable but the yellow things kinda look like they are

>> No.60346431

wait that's TKL not 100%... fugg

>> No.60346460

100% version


>> No.60346749
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I bought pic related with MX Blues about half a year ago.

However, my fingers get kind of tired while using it and I'm typing faster on rubber dome.

Any tips?

>> No.60346771

Gateron clears or 35g topre

>> No.60346903


>> No.60346969

I'm not going to risk ruining my keyboard by changing the switches. I'm a total noob with these things.

Thank you, will try that. Can I just buy some off Ebay? How do I find out what size I need?

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>> No.60347043

I ment buy a new keyboard with those switches in it, theres nothing you can do that will magically make your switches lighter or your manlet fingers work properly

>> No.60347277

fuck no man topres are tiring as fuck. I've only tried 45gs but I can't imagine them to be vastly different to 35g ones

>> No.60347498
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35g ones feel far more linear than 45g. If you for some reason find blues to be too tiring to type on, I recommend gateron clears, they're the lightest switch that's commonly available.

t. typing on gateron clears right now

>> No.60347545

If I had a keyboard with a "code" key on it, I'd feel like killing myself desu

>> No.60347716
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>However, my fingers get kind of tired while using it and I'm typing faster on rubber dome.
Posts like this make me skeptical of the whole mechanical craze. Like, what happened to ergonomic keyboards and big buttons and palm rests. What's the point of buying louder, heavier, more expensive keys?

Do mechanical keyboards make it easier/less straining to type or not?

>> No.60347805

is ducky shine a meme

>> No.60347972
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The only switch I find incredibly comfortable to use is the model f capacitive buckling spring.
I can use and enjoy any other switch out there, but that one is pretty much perfect.

>> No.60348055

The guy is just being a little bitch honestly. The keyboard in your picture has between 45g and 60g actuation force depending on the key, no different or lighter than the blues. And that's "light touch" for a rubber dome. To me, blues are way too light. You can't even rest your fingers on the board without accidentally pressing stuff. I can't imagine someone saying they get tired from that with a straight face.

Mechanical keyboards in general just give you more options. Heavier, lighter, easier, harder, this layout or that layout. You can do whatever. It's the level of customization that people are after.

>> No.60348116

>Mechanical keyboards in general just give you more options
But if you're going for strain reduction, are lighter mechanical switches as useful as ergonomic designs like slanted/split boards, larger function keys, or smaller actuations?

>> No.60348179

You can get mechanicals in slanted and split ergonomic boards with larger function keys and smaller force actuation. You just have to imagine what it is you want out of a board and then go hunt it down.

>> No.60348209

gmk suxxzzz ballzz roflmfao ur all faghots for bying into the meme

>> No.60348236
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I ordered this few days ago for 27 euros. Low price was priority. Did I meme myself or did I do well?

>> No.60348352

Came from rubber dome and now happy with mechanical keyboard.

>louder, heavier
No. My current board make as same noise as previous rubber dome, but with lighter switches.

>> No.60348355

the thing that makes membrane rubber dome keyboards disgusting is that you have to bottom out the switch for it to register a key press. this causes an awful lot of strain. mechanical keyboards have a higher activation point which means you don't have to punch your fingers with full force into the switch

>> No.60348379

it's a fucking key press, stop being a little bitch and push that rubber all the way down.

>> No.60348464
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it's dogshit tier compared to a mechanical switch especially if it's an older worn out rubber dome keyboard

>> No.60348575

What's the difference in feel between capacitative buckling springs and membrane buckling springs?

On another note, I'm about to ship my keyboard to unicomp for repairs, and it costs a fuckin fortune, but I don't trust myself to tear the thing apart to get at the membrane. I love typing on my unicomp but they really should be paying more attention to QC

>> No.60348750

it's probably good for the price

>> No.60348963

Why not just do it now?

>> No.60349029

>What's the difference in feel between capacitative buckling springs and membrane buckling springs?

Chyrosran22 talks about the differences in his videos

>I love typing on my unicomp but they really should be paying more attention to QC
not likely because they have no competition. they don't give a fuck all that much.

>> No.60349077

Because I still have tolerable taste in keyboards

>> No.60349117
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just get the icon modifier kit

>> No.60349125

Capacitive buckling spring is a lot lighter. It feels linear and extremely smooth up until the spring buckles, then you feel the vibration on your finger and hear the god tier pinging sound.
With Model M's, it's still a nice feel but the switch is heavier and less smooth.

>> No.60349243


will these ever get sold in blacks or is it worth going for the browns?

>> No.60349487

Which keyboards have mx silent red switches?

>> No.60349539

naaaah i think the professional designers know what theyre doing when they put 3 leds in the corner instead cause i use those LED's way more than the buttons yeah i think LEDs are better too, especially scroll lock i use the LED more than the button sometimes

>> No.60349577

filco majestouch 2
corsair strafe

>> No.60349593
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LEDs are tiny, and Ducky does something similar by putting them between. I just cannot go back to a normal keyboard without having a couple extra programmable keys.

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>> No.60351666

Should I purchase an Anne Pro or a Tada68? I just want to try out Gateron Reds.

>> No.60351815

I'm looking for a keyboard with whatever the smallest form factor with a function row is with Gatreon Browns

Any recommendations?

I'm considering the MagicForce 82 key on massdrop right now but idk.

>> No.60351928

why don't you buy a $2 switch or a dozen for $7 before you go and buy a whole keyboard

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Thoughts on this? Does a clicky version exist?

>> No.60352234

Where do you get that spacebar?

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>> No.60352531

Please give me a recommendation!

> Budget: 100€

> Location: Germany

>Switches: Cherry Blues

> Layout: iso

> Form Factor: 80% or 100% don't really care

> Backlight: non

> Previous Keyboard: Some shitty Crosair Raptor


>> No.60352860

Because I already have and use MX Reds, so I know it's going to be something I can either sell easily or use.

>> No.60353146
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Love the keyboard and the wallpapers are gorgeous.
Thank you but I didn't know that was debounce. I looked at the instructions and it says it's "reset" but I just tapped it a few times and the I hasn't duplicated yet.
Hey someone saved my shitty picture of my boring keyboard.

Anyone else really want to order a new keyboard but can't talk yourself into it because you already have one or more than work fine?
Pic related. I feel like I can make it look so nice since it'll work with way more keycap sets than my Noppoo.

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so im building a pc and want a hhkb keyboard and want to free up usb ports

does anyone make a micro usb to ps2 that looks nice and is quality

>> No.60353272

The HHKB already has a usb hub on it.

>> No.60353283

it was done before in the 80s

it has been described as a navless layout


>> No.60353331
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>tfw you notice fading on your dye-sub PBT keycaps and it's only been 10 months since you got them

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Thats called bleaching, and it took two weeks on my ducky one. The weird thing is that it only happened on that one key

>> No.60353440

reddit's community is way cooler than us

they got the guy with the slider potentiometer


>> No.60353463
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Waiting for an RGB 96 key layout with an aluminum case. Till then I ride with my Pro M

>> No.60353628

I can't exactly go out and buy a replacement set either since Ducky dye-sub keysets aren't in stock anywhere and the keys themselves are cream-colored, not white.

>> No.60353831

Did ducky switch their keycap colors? Since mine are white. Anyway if you want to replace them I'd go with cherry profile thick dye-sub PBT for 50 bucks.

>> No.60353875

The listing on MK describes them as green/cream, and they don't look like pure white.

>> No.60353896

There are already several like that. The AMJ 96 can be had for as low as 80 bucks, but that is stamped metal. Their is a cnc version for triple the price

>> No.60353915

>AMJ 96

Group buy only though

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Mine is one of the first gen ones and the chink clones use white, which actually matches them very well.

>> No.60353983

Buy it direct from chyna, since the group buy doesn't have the cheap case. Also doesn't winkeyless have one too.

>> No.60354009

Ordered the one on TaoBao but they canceled it saying it was group buy only

>> No.60354010
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>> No.60354083
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>receive Magicforce 82 (pic related)
>receive and install cheapo Massdrop PBT caps (pic also related)
>everything works fine except for spacebar
>very sluggish, won't return to original position after each press (though the switch does pass the reset point)
>can fix this by applying less force when installing the spacebar, but that makes it sit higher than the other keycaps which is annoying
>reinstall original spacebar which has no issues (pic again related)

Does this have to do with the stabilizers? None of the other keys with stabilizers have this problem.

>> No.60354129

sauce wallpaper on the left?

>> No.60354183

I recently used mx-blue's for the first time.
They feel really cheap and crappy compared to my outemu black's.
Am i retarded or something cus I really don't understand the appeal of mx-blue's?

>> No.60354545

Blacks and blues are nothing a like. All mx based switches are supposed to feel cheap and crappy because they were designed to be.

>> No.60354577

So I'm torn between a Filco Majestouch 2 TKL and a POK3R. The Filco is the safe option as I've never had a 60% board before. For those that have made the jump, what's it like to live with on a daily basis? Also if anyone has other suggestions I'm all ears.

>> No.60354973

I went from a full size filco to a poker ii
no regrets

>> No.60355404
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>> No.60355446

Anyone knows a beige/white mechanical keyboard so I can use it as a base for this keycaps? Or can I just buy a base without the keycaps?

>> No.60355457

you can always buy a nice numpad/macropad anon go for the pok3r

>> No.60355470

Shit forgot the link

>> No.60355530
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Btw If anyone knows the name of the model they use in the thumbnail It'd be nice to know

>> No.60355557

Thanks for the feedback, I'm not terribly knowledgeable about this stuff so apologies if this is a simpleton type question, but is it difficult to get some good thick keycaps for the pok3r or are there any non standard size caps I need to look out for?

>> No.60355567

cherry g80, Ducky One or shine 6, almost all the Plum keyboards are white, Leopold makes a few white keyboards. There is also magicforce, but that's more of a silver color.

>> No.60356114

Does anyone have the image disparaging buckling springs compared to beam springs. It's pretty obscure as far as I can tell but I imagine some seasoned gentooman has it somewhere.

>> No.60356383

What's a /mkg/ approved mouse? My old one just died

>> No.60356452
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Just bought a set of zealios, some pbt keycaps and some replacement LEDs to transplant in my ducky shine 3. Did I fuck up?

>> No.60356457

So you got a NSA trust, right?

>> No.60356497

Zowie stuff is excellent, Logitech MMO is quality even if you aren't gaming with it (the keybinds are very handy), Microsoft Intellimouse is a cult mouse. I love the Zowie Mico. It's discontinued but there is a repro on monoprice

>> No.60356522


>> No.60356683

Wallpaper Engine, Everlasting Summer | Room

>> No.60356689
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firing some memes right back at ya

>> No.60357909

You honestly shouldn't give money to the faggot who makes zealios, because he's a massive cocksucker. It will be a good KB, but it would have been just as good, and slightly cheaper, to get regular MX clears.

>> No.60358383

Hey what's the keyboard you used for base in the one with white and blue keycaps? (The black one)

>> No.60358387

anything on gateron clears 35g that ships to eu and doesn't take 3 months to arrive?

>> No.60358444

nope, just the magicforce or tada68

>> No.60358484

the only tenkeyless with mx clears was a varmilo. but would of been the same price as me just buying all these parts and it wouldn't have come with the pbt keycap set that i liked, also a lot of people complain about a metallic PING when typing on mx clears, is this true?

>> No.60358518

pinging noises probably come from the plate

>> No.60359051

I may have had your same problem... I got a blank pbt set from geekkeys and I found that the spacebar that came with the set was actually about .15cm shorter than what it should have been. This pulled the plungers of the switches towards their housings and got them stuck. I ended up just buying another spacebar and that fixed it.

>> No.60359268

Any pros/cons between black vs white keycaps? I really like the look of both and can't decide.

>> No.60359269
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Do you guys put any effort into improving your typing? I think I'm running into a wall because I never learned to type properly, I was just able to touch type one day as a kid

>> No.60359350
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Why don't I see many POM key cap sets for sale? I just put some on my magic force and they feel so nice. The sound is very different from the stock ABS caps as well, it's lower and a bit muted.

>> No.60359642
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Just got this in the mail. Did I get memed? It's very loud and clicky, and seems better than my Logitech k120. Is it good for the money?

>> No.60359664

Does it have the switch and layout you want?
If yes it's good
If no it's bad

>> No.60360313
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Picked up a Razor Blackwidow Ultimate 2016 for $30. No complaints here. It was used for about a month before I got it.

>> No.60360336

you overspent by about 30 bucks

>> No.60360445

How so? There is litterily nothing wrong with it.
I like the way it feels.
It was inexpensive.
>>fancy green
4chans memeboard

>> No.60360624

Don't listen to him. Razer boards might be shit, but their shittiest feature is the price. For $30, it's perfectly fine.

>> No.60360900

>consult the buyer's guide
>no pastebin for it and wiki is kill
Alright then.

Just fuck my shit up.
>Location (continent at least)
The People's Republic of California.
>Preferred switch type
Cherry Reds or Browns, or any alternative that's close enough. It's my first mech so feel free to recommend one.
>Form factor
Preferably not but I can deal with it.
>Previous/current keyboards
Memebrane shit.

I want PBT caps, maybe some of those front printed ones so I look like a mystical computer druid in /k/ /bst/s. Currently looking at a Leopold FC900 but figured I'd ask the experts.

>> No.60361419

Leopold is fine

>> No.60361608
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should i buy a hhkb pro 2 for 180 used

it comes repackaged and has a "Small (less than 1/4" x 1/4") cosmetic imperfection on front of item."

ive been trying to find one new ford 200 or under

>> No.60361609

>Do you guys put any effort into improving your typing?

>> No.60362081

Does anyone here have any experience in keyboard design? I've been reading up on firmware and microcontrollers specifically for keyboards. It seems simple enough to just wire your keys to a board and map them using software. Does anyone else here have any experience in this subject? Any specs or things to look out for in general? How may layers of PCB do keyboards typically use?

Oh! And on a side note, what are zealios? I've heard from others that they're nothing but "snake oil" but if they are what they claim to be (a tactile switch with activation between a brown and clear) then that sounds perfect for me seeing as I think my browns are too soft and my clears are fatiguing if I type for 3+ hours on them.

>> No.60362116

If you already have clears it's so much cheaper to replace the springs than buy brand new switches

>> No.60362148

My clears are in another board. Honestly if Zealios are as cheap as cherries (100 for ~50$) I'd much rather just buy the switches by themselves them cannibalize other boards.

>> No.60362197

Zealios are 85c to $1 per switch. Because they're "premium".

>> No.60362226

>buy Anne Pro
>receive package yesterday while at work
>play around with it for a bit, everything works great, put it away
>come home
>try turning it on
>wired works, wireless doesn't
>looks like the battery is dead and won't charge
Well, shit.

>> No.60362233

... WHY? I mean, logistics aside, what makes them so expensive? Is it just the name? What is the difference between them and an ergo clear (Clear with replaced stem)?

>> No.60362275

They have looser tolerances, resulting in increased wobble and the "smoothness" redditors demand.

>> No.60362564
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will Granite keycaps be back in stock anytime soon or do i need to look out for some kinda group buy?

>> No.60362797

>what makes them so expensive?
Snake oil at its finest.

>> No.60363075
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This is the keyboard I'm working on designing. Critiques? The Prog key would be a single dummy key capable of acting as an input without being tied to an actual key. Could be used for macros or whatever.

>> No.60363095

I don't know shit about keyboards or even how I wont up in this thread, but I like those keys.
Did they come with that keyboard or did you order them separate?

tldr need those keys, where do I get them?

>> No.60363136

Still has caps lock.
Shorter spacebar, fit in an extra key or two there.

>> No.60363206

Hmmm... Ideally, my goal would be to make as small a footprint as possible while still adhering to 104 key standards. The biggest downside of going with nonstandard ~60% is paying through the ass for keycaps. As it stands, the ONLY key not standard in the this set is the spacebad at 6.5u instead of the 6.25u standard.

>> No.60363494
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so basically a duck lightsaver then?

not a fan of the F row being lined up with the num row. Looks strange next to the rest of the staggered rows

>> No.60363516

Nonstandard shift and 0/insert.

>> No.60363647

6.5u spacebars are harder to get than 1.75u shifts and 1u numpad 0 caps. That's why people recommend against Corsair so much, they insist on a 1.5-1-1.5-6.5-1.5-1-1-1.5 bottom row.

>> No.60363705

Noted! I'll see what I can do with a redesign.

>> No.60363729

Face it, if you're buying a korean custom you're not going to use shitty tai hao caps that have no compatibility.

>> No.60363822

I'm not buying anything from Korea I'm going to tool my own board layout in Autocad and buy directly from the distributor.

>> No.60363963
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3D printed a single DSA keycaps today. I think it came out alright...
This is a test before I try to model and 3D print a 4.5u white spacebar (because I can't find anywhere to buy one).

>> No.60363973
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>> No.60363976

What uses a 4.5? JIS or something?

>> No.60363978

request for right monitor wallpaper

>> No.60364032

The KBT Pure Pro (in ISO anyway, but I think all pure pro are ISO ?).

>> No.60364067
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Killed it for me. Never getting that shiny garbage again.

>> No.60364169

but why

doesn't seem very efficient/ergonomic for the example usages in the imgur album. for very specific use cases like image editing sliders where you want fine-grained manual control for parameters maybe

>> No.60364219

it probably has to do with the stabilizers and the thickness of the spacebar. you can mod it somehow, it's supposedly an easy fix, look online for instructions

>> No.60364233

nope it's a standard layout keyboard
you might have trouble if you get an iso one though because iso sets aren't that common

>> No.60364280



>> No.60364366

>color matches with most pc hardware/peripherals
>hides dirt
>can be difficult to see in the dark if the legends aren't white or backlit
>if the texture gets worn down the shine will be more visible (mainly only applies to ABS keycaps)

>easy to see in the dark
>if the texture gets worn down the shine isn't as visible (mainly only applies to ABS keycaps)
>color clashes with most pc hardware/peripherals
>shows dirt (those old school keyboards tend to have a lot of dirt on them)

>> No.60364382

it's a niche switch so they don't benefit from economies of scale as much and they had to make a whole new mold for it which can get expensive.

>> No.60364384

Are there any chink keyboards with mx silent reds?

>> No.60364440

if you get it in an ANSI layout it's completely standard. if you get ISO (not recommended) it will be more difficult to get keycaps for it but they do exist, for example this swedish set:


>> No.60364496
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Here is my revised key layout

>> No.60364683

looks good. see >>60342376 for what you can do with the bottom row (the configurations except for the two at the bottom are common for this type of layout)

>> No.60364742
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Waiting for XDA Canvas is suffering :(

>> No.60364744

the funny thing is that most people won't bat an eye at spending $50-80 on a mouse, and gaming rubber dome keyboards used to cost that much, but suddenly keyboards aren't allowed to cost $40-100 for a good one

>> No.60364747

if you want to get design files for the plate easily, you can import that into builder.swillkb.com and get it generated for you

>> No.60365038
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Running stock velocifire tkl 01, got it off Amazon for 30 usd since I'm a poor fag

>> No.60365057
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A full case for 30 bucks, the chinks are getting better at this. What switches does it have?

>> No.60365107

they're Zorro brown switches

>> No.60366034

Need a keyboard with cherry blues, 100% and iso layout. Recommendations?

>> No.60367028

How do I learn how to type?

>> No.60367116
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>> No.60368208
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http://www.keybr.com/practice (already linked)

>> No.60368764

Group probably won't happen anytime soon because the creator matt3o doesn't like to work with them anymore, this is why elvish sets go for 200 bucks+. PMK will most likely restock their set every quartile like they did with the otaku set.

>> No.60368811

This looks fucking disgusting.

>> No.60368970

would you like it if it had a rama logo on it? i could add one if you think it'd make it better

>> No.60368978

Hey guys, I love my MX Blue keyboard, but it's too loud. Whats a switch that feel similar to the Blue's but is a LOT quieter? I tried the Browns and didn't like them much.

>> No.60369061

Matias QC.

>> No.60369098

You could try clears, though really no MX-style switch has good tactility. Matias quiet switches are the only commercially available ones I know of that are both quiet and strongly tactile. Downside is they use different keycap mounts so you have no selection if you want to change keycaps.

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>> No.60369567

What country do you live in? Cause you can import a brand new HHKB for 180-200 bucks, at least thats what its like in the US.

>> No.60369659
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How does it feel to be associated with the most spastic, easily excited reddit turbonerds?

Is there a hobby more reddit than this? Does it consists of anything more than buying woefully overpriced keycaps and carefully arranging your keeb for photoshoots alongside woefully overpriced watches and woefully overpriced sneakers?

>> No.60369733


I guess I'm not looking hard enough

>> No.60369861
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EnjoyPBT from aliexpress and Dan Ink PBT from assdrop

>> No.60369899
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How well does the stem fit on the switch? I've tried 3D printing caps, but that has always been a problem

>> No.60369926
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Feels good man

>> No.60369970
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You can buy mine, it's pristine apart from Richard stallman's signature on the back

>> No.60369994

That's some serious firepower there

I still don't approve of you putting aftermarket keys on your industrial but as long as you like it, it's cool

>> No.60370018

It's really firm, but I had to trim it down a bit so it would fit on it first. I need to try to edit the file to make the hole a bit larger.

>> No.60370172

Wallpaper Engine: 动态壁纸

>> No.60370227



pick 3

>> No.60370332

how come most of you guys' keyboard don't have the number pad? numpad is so convenient when dealing with any sequence of numbers. is it too much of a price bump for the form factor?

>> No.60370453

How do I into alt codes with a tkl keyboard?

>> No.60370691

How do the Cherry MX clones compare to the real thing?

>> No.60370700

on most good TKLs it has s numpad in the IJKL region.

>> No.60370792

That's badass, don't sell that

>> No.60370804

That's a pretty sketchy shelf mate

>> No.60370849

My old chicony 5191 keyboard skips some keypresses when typing. There is something can i do to recover it? It's happening with only some keys like 'd' and (specially) left arrow. It has cherry blue switches. Might the switch be cleaned or something?

>> No.60370888

try gateron brown


>> No.60370971

it gets in the way of the mouse. you can have the mouse much closer to the typing area if the keyboard is narrower. and you can touch type numbers or use a layer like jkluio789 as 123456789

>> No.60371074

this might come as a shocker to you, but not all of us are accountants

>> No.60371333

Cherry switches are rated for like 20-50 million keystrokes. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable could weigh in but my gut is that it's something with the circuit board or contacts

>> No.60371435

Open it up and check all the connections. Then reflow the solder for the iffy switches. If that doesn't work, desolder the switches and open them up and clean them. If they're honestly busted, get a couple new switches and solder them in. It's only a couple bucks.

>> No.60371859

can the raindrop mode be set to a single color?

>> No.60373203

Only if they stopped being pants on head retarded with how they made function buttlon toggle when you press it longer than 3s. Everytime you wanted to make music louder you have to spend time and un-toggle that piece of shit function when you play something that actualy uses function keys.

>> No.60373267

1) Budget
About $100
2) Location
3) Preffered switch type
4) Layout
5) Form factor
60%, but with the numpad available through function keys preferred
6) Backlight
7) Previous/current keyboard
A laptop keyboard

>> No.60373357

Is there a way to finda tracking number on KBDFans' shopify site? They said my stuff's been shipped a couple weeks ago and that I can track it, but as far as I can tell they never gave me a tracking number.

>> No.60373465

the email went into my junk folder and i nearly missed it because it would be auto-deleted but you can sign in and click account -> hello anon -> click on the order number

>> No.60373506


>> No.60373577


>> No.60373806

you can get those keyboards from chink land for 70-100 bucks

>> No.60373824

Any northern Europe developers using ANSI layout instead of Nordic layout? Do you like it? I'm considering buying ANSI layout since it's almost impossible to find mechanical keyboards and custom keycaps that fit.

>> No.60373837
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There's a cheap MX-Board 3.0 w/ Blue switches on Ebay, description says "m key not working"

Worth buying and trying to fix? Is it a common issue?

How hard can this be? I am able to solder basic stuff if needed

>> No.60373964
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"ergonomic" keyboards are a meme. if you want something like that it should have split hands like ergodox instead of the xbox hueg thing in the vid

>> No.60373971

MX Board 3.0 is not too money brand new

>> No.60374011

I'm sorry: what?

>> No.60374035

yes it's infinitely better especially for programming

>> No.60374310

I want to punch Linus!

>> No.60374343

>MX Board 3.0 is not too much brand new
got it

anways, I bid 1€, will see

>> No.60374376

for 1€ it's worth a try maybe even 10€

>> No.60375607

I am looking to buy a small, portable keyboard to take on the go. It needs to have Cherry MX Green or Buckling Spring. So far the only keyboards like this that I've seen are the WASD VP3 and the CODE 61 Key. Any other suggestions?

don't care
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX Green or Buckling Spring
>Form factor
60%/Space Saver
don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
IBM Model M 104 Key 1984

>> No.60375936 [DELETED] 
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>tfw lightning strikes twice

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>> No.60376700
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>> No.60376823

any other recs?

>> No.60376975

get a Canadian 65% keyboard

>> No.60377009

charge your phone

>> No.60377052

white Choc Mini Gateron Clear used for $50 yay or nay. That's the best I can find on that switch

>> No.60377143

hell yeah

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>> No.60377307

Have your keycaps bleached any further beyond those two weeks?

>> No.60377397
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The edges of the letter E also began to bleach a bit, but my camera can't pick those up as well as the S. I've only used the keyboard for a yearish, before moving onto a model M

>> No.60377531
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I'm working on building a custom keyboard and I am wondering if there is a retailer that sells the same enclosures for lifesaver (duck) or Redscarf 96? I need a case that has a 1u*19 by 1u*6, so anything like pic related.

>> No.60377894
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not really, but there are other types of cases if you want. 96 key still hasn't hit the mainstream yet.

>> No.60378525

After looking into PCB printing serves, I have concluded that making my own shit is not feasible in the slightest.

It would cost roughly 500$ for the PCB printing. I am not a smart man.

>> No.60378579

lol fig

>> No.60378583

I recently bought their masterkey s (tkl) after years of having a fullsize. instantly regret not getting this layout everytime I go to use the numpad out of habit.

>> No.60378864
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Do different colored WASD keys bother anyone? I don't play games, but the legend on my W key is botched so I figured I might as well replace it.

>> No.60379089 [DELETED] 
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If dubs I'll buy an HHKB.

>> No.60379128

Specifically a Type-S JP for dem arrow keys

>> No.60379418

if you don't have THICC pbt you may as well upgrade the whole set

>> No.60379465

It's THICC PBT dye-sub.

>> No.60379490

then it's up to you since you're the one who will be using it. personally i would probably just keep using the old W key

>> No.60379556
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I collect 5.5u spacebars

>> No.60379596
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what's wrong with hand wiring it to a controller like a teensey or arduino?

>> No.60379623

Nice pride rainbow.

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>> No.60379907
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mammals were a mistake

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font looks terrible desu.

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>> No.60381911

got the magic force KB but how should i be typing on this thing? It's actually kind of uncomfortable since my wrist is at a weird angle even with the legs folded

i want to be able to practice my typing but with the weird angle pressure shit its putting on my wrist, I would develop carpal tunnel before I can type at 100WPM

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