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This thread is about the appreciation of horological tech and shitter watches.



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Strap Guide:

>> No.60034819
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thoughts on my summer combo?

waiting for the tool to come in the mail for easy switching

>> No.60034846

I might go for perlon myself.

regardless, it looks great

>> No.60034853

perlon would look sick as well.

Thanks anon. what are you wearing?

>> No.60034855

weird choice of strap.

what lange is that? i don't recognize the movement

>> No.60034883

ALS grand complication.

>> No.60034890
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Would you a grape dial Oysterer Perpetulel?
Why? Why not?
Now that the old air kings are gone, and the new one is some horrible monstrosity catered solely for the mainland chinese market, what's /wt/'s opinion on Rolex's entry level model?

>> No.60034892

>weird choice of strap.
what would you put on it? besides the bracelet of course which remains my favorite (I wanted to make it sporty for summer)

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>> No.60034912

see >>60034819
I absolutely love my watch. I personally don't care much for the grape dial though (the resale is also awful on that color).

>> No.60034913

I wish I had a grape dial anything they're pretty sweet.

>> No.60034949


Thats the gayest color, your workmates will think you are a faggot. Tudor red is acceptable. Id say "burgyndy" as a color If i were a butty boy.

>> No.60034960

yes. the op is my favourite rolex at the moment, since i prefer time-only watches and don't like fluted bezels or cyclops. the unusual colours are great.

shit man i don't know, i don't have a rolex
i have a rubber strap but it's on a diver, for some reason rubber on something that's not a diver feels off to me. but i'm sure it's comfy.

thanks, i must have heard about it at some point but didn't remember that existed. I'm not actually that keen on the watch, and i'm a fan of Lange (my dream watch being >>60034229 ).

>> No.60034990

>(the resale is also awful on that color)
You see, it's this that makes me muse that in a few years (or like, 20) whatever watchfags that are still around might just be thirsty for this seemingly very unpopular dial. If Rolex discontinues it any time soon, I wonder if it'll ever reach cult status, "just because it was unpopular"?

>> No.60034995

>doesn't want a watch with a sawblade in it
it's like you like being poor

>> No.60035012

Are there any mechanicals that are filled with oil?

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>> No.60035060

they should have made it a pocket watch. it's too big to be a wristwatch.
and the dial feels off. especially compared to the dato perpetual tourbillon which manages to remain legible and somewhat elegant.

Ressence makes some (type 3 and type 5 i think). the dial side is separated from the movement side, since a mechanical movement can't work in oil, and the indications are driven by magnets. really neat stuff.

>> No.60035223
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>meanwhile, at the /fa/ watch thread, the HOMOS shill is at work

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kek homos thats a new one

>> No.60035303
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what do you guys think about this watch. is it any good?

>> No.60035320

new to /wt/, why are Nomos so hated, apart from the fact that they are ugly and overpriced? Is the constant Homos shilling a real thing?
asking for a friend

>> No.60035321
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I owned the Tissot Automatic III before I sold it. really great watch for the price.

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Super cool Canada anon. I really like rubber straps, and the blue compliments the watch and gives it a very clean, modern aesthetic.

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>new to /wt/, why are Nomos so hated, apart from the fact that they are ugly and overpriced? Is the constant Homos shilling a real thing?

Sodomy is a sin. Only fags wear HOMOS watches. /wt/ is a Christian general. Therefore, /wt/ hates HOMOS.


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thanks anon, I definitely like the sportiness it ads to the set up

>> No.60035553

Here is some OC

>Is the constant Homos shilling a real thing?
asking for a friend
You tell me

>> No.60035576
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The OC I promised to post but didn't

>> No.60035634

shit, is this going on for a long time? how do you know it isn't just a buthurt autist who is angry that you don't like his watch?

>> No.60035640


we are pretty certain that's what it is.

>> No.60035650
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Fuck sorry, the HOMOS marketing department forgot to remove ghosting around the watch which shows up on a dark background. Here's the fixed version.

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Thank you anon. I will use this whenever I debate these nu-male fags.

>> No.60035840

Because he makes absurd arguments and derails the thread, all while posting the same copypasta about in-house, improved technology, etc. Luckily he hasn't been focusing on here lately. His main tactics are strawman, ad hominem, and burden of proof. The reason he targets this site is because it's anonymous and the watch threads are very active.

>> No.60035886
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don't lie anons, do you judge people based on the watch they wear?

pic related would be worn by Bernie

>> No.60035933

i feel bad for anyone who buys fashion watches

>> No.60035945

>pic related would be worn by Bernie
That's a man's watch though.

>> No.60036072

>pic related would be worn by Bernie
Nope. Too masculine for him

>> No.60036193

fair point anons.

What would zhe wear?

>> No.60036259

He would either like a Jewish Bauhaus design like a NOMOS, Daniel Wellington, etc. or some jap shitter to appear falsely poor to his dumb white voter base.

>> No.60036289

>or some jap shitter to appear falsely poor to his dumb white voter base.
this is the real answer. He wears some cheap piece of eco drive shit while chilling in his beach house

>> No.60036330

I'd probably go for a perlon, but it goes fine.

>> No.60036382

Here are the simple facts: Nomos are literally the first new company to develop the capacity to design and manufacture mechanical movements including escapements on a series production basis since the 1960s. They join Raketa, Vostok, Orient, Citizen, Seiko, ETA and Rolex as the only non haute horlogerie companies capable of this.

Developing this capability took a several year and ~12 million Euro investment in escapements and a further ~2 million Euro investment in designing the ultra-thin DUW 3001 calibre. These are enormous investments from a company with an annual sales volume of 10,000 - 20,000 units, and as a result must necessarily be reflected in increased unit prices.

In an affordable luxury watch market heavily dominated by Chinese-cased ETA-powered marketing-driven shitters, any watchmaker that makes the investments required to become a manufacture and actually increase the technical diversity of series produced mechanical movements should be applauded no matter whether you like the aesthetics of their product line. To the extent that Nomos succeeds by following this path, it may serve to encourage more investment in the technical aspects of watchmaking by other companies rather than just investing in more value engineering (i.e. cost-cutting) and more advertising.

Just in the last 10 years we have gone from a $1,000-$4,000 market where every single watch was powered by an ETA movement to one where you can now choose between ETA, Tudor, Nomos, and Seiko (8rXXs, 8LXXs). How can this development be regarded as bad for people interested in horology, regardless of whether you would personally buy any of those watches yourself? If only Miyota and Seiko would add micro-adjuster models to their ebauche offerings and Tudor would begin to use their in-house movement in more models, we could return to an era of real competition in movements in production watches not seen since the glory days of the 1970s.

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thanks anon, may pick up an inexpensive perlon for it sometime

>> No.60036407

As you were already told, it's a very decent t value for money even though most Tissot's are overpriced SHITTERS.

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>> No.60036455

If you don't care about or have any interest in the mechanical movements that power these watches then you can and should fuck off to >>>/fa/.

>> No.60036501

Yeah, that's the copypasta I was talking about. What a nasty shill.

>> No.60036515

my watch has a 3132 not some shitter HOMOS movement, and you're all over the /fa/ threads too

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>> No.60036588

Yes, I'm shilling for a watch brand I hate the aesthetics of and would never personally buy.

I have literally never posted in /fa/. I am simply in favor of increased technical diversity in production mechanical movements. To the extent that Nomos succeeds pursuing a manufacturing centered strategy, it's good for encouraging more investment into real horology rather than the Swatch Group approach of shoving mass produced 30 year old movement designs into Chinese cases.

>> No.60036642

your write ups are pretty similar to this shill >>12418482

>> No.60036699
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I own a Nomos. It's one of my favorite watches of all the watches I've ever owned.

I love the dimensions, power reserve and color scheme.

>> No.60036771

I only defend Nomos from an horological perspective because that's what I care about. That dude on /fa/ does not seem to be interested in or capable of making technical arguments, he didn't even challenge the incorrect argument that modern Nomos movements are based on ETA designs (they are not).

Look, as far as personal taste goes I vastly prefer Rolex and Grand Seiko, but anyone who is genuinely interested in movements should applaud the first company to make the investments required to become a production manufacture in fourty fucking years.

Would you prefer instead that we go back to every watch between $750 and $4,000 being powered by an ETA 2824-2, 2892-A2 or Valjoux 7750?

>> No.60036819


the dial, case, and crown are part of the technology of a watch. they are the user interface. the technology of HOMOS is a good movement that cannot be successfully separated from a nasty tumor of technological failure.

>> No.60036865

I never suggested you of anyone else should buy one if you don't like the aesthetics. I just get annoyed at people calling them shitters or dogshit when they are absolutely not.

You know it's entirely possible to hate a brand aesthetically without talking shit about their technical merits, yes?

>> No.60036883


you still don't seem to get it. the nasty dial IS A TECHNICAL PROBLEM.

>> No.60036932

If a $10 fake looks almost as good as the real thing, you've a problem.

Sure, they have their own movements, which is great. But they are by definition dogshit if they can be superficially cloned by the Chinese. No watch worth its merit should be faked that easily.


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>not owning the greatest chess watch
Why is your wristwatch game so weak, /g/?

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So, does that mean that the new Rolex Air King now haz shitty build quality and a trash movement because I find the dial revolting? And that Rolex is now a shitter brand because they make a watch with that dial??

I don't think that makes a lot of sense.

>> No.60037035

have you actually handled a nomos, and one of those fakes?

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>> No.60037040


rolex makes things that aren't dogshit. homos does not.

homos does not sell its movements. the movements are not severable from the "completed" watches. you do not get to discard the dogshit and just defend the movement inside it. until homos puts its movements up for sale, you are on the hook for the whole package, and the whole package is a massive dogshit failure.

>> No.60037081

Oh, so you are saying the new Air King is dogshit then?

>> No.60037098


notice that the shill is now unable to stay on topic, deflecting as hard as he can onto rolex. this is because he has no defense for the dogshit into which nomos installs its movements.

>> No.60037142

You are totally unfamiliar with the concept of analogy then? Look, a watch being UGLY is not a comment on its build quality. One is a matter of aesthetics, the other is a matter of objective technical merit.

I'm using the new Air King as an analogy because it's ugly as sin but well made, making it a good example of differentiating aesthetics from manufacturing quality.

>> No.60037156


the problem with homos is not one of simple ugliness. it's that the ugliness is so bad that it impedes the function of the watch. get over it.

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>> No.60037190

>I'm physically incapable of reading the time on this watch because I don't like how it looks
Really? Are you going to turn to stone if you check the time? I didn't realize the dials had Medusa like powers.

>> No.60037215

HOMOS should sponsor plebbit, they were basically made for each other

>> No.60037216


the fact that they can only use the thinnest (least legible) hands also suggests that there are significant torque defects in the movement design that they have been unable to overcome.

>> No.60037243

this anon nigga is tearing HOMOS a new asshole kek

>> No.60037248

Except his point is complete speculation and most probably false.

>> No.60037261


lol, you defend their movement without having any idea what its torque characteristics are. the available evidence is in the handsets they've chosen, and they've telegraphed that they are having some torque problems.

>> No.60037262

Actually objectively false, give me a couple minutes to whip up a comparison image to prove it.

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But you don't even consider that the choices which you are claiming is part in a low torque movement is just because they want it to look like that

>> No.60037318


this is the reality of HOMOS: a fatally flawed movement technology that can only turn the lightest hands of pure eider down, covered up under a hasty veneer of "bauhaus" illegibility hoping that no one will notice.

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>hasty veneer of "bauhaus" illegibility hoping that no one will notice.
works for plebbit r/watches they love HOMOS

>> No.60037477
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So here is a comparison of the hand on the DUW 3001 powered Nomos Club Neomatik, a 3135 powered Rolex Datejust 16200, an ETA 2892-A2 powered Longines, and a 4s15 powered Seiko.

Looks like you are completely full of shit and literally just made that up on the spot without even thinking to check if Nomos made any models with broader hands.

>> No.60037517

What the fuck people, tell me one reason to dislike Nomos.

These do not count as reasons:
>r-r-reddit might like it so I must hate it
Reddit likes Vostoks, Seikos, Orients and even non-shitter watches too. What's your problem /wt/?

>b-but I hate the bauhaus design
Your opinion. Does not make the watch bad. Some people like it

>haha HOMOS am I rite??

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>tfw obsessed with dress watches but I mostly wear casual clothes

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>this is the reality of HOMOS: a fatally flawed movement technology that can only turn the lightest hands of pure eider down, covered up under a hasty veneer of "bauhaus" illegibility hoping that no one will notice.
What did he mean by this?

>> No.60037583
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What could he have conceivably intended to convey with such representations?

>> No.60037645


what's wrong with that? at least they're easy to service

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>> No.60037737

I swear I've seen the whole pic before but can't remember who the actual guy is. Who is this?

>> No.60037742

Firstly because there is no reason to spend more than ~$500 for a watch powered by an ETA 2824-2 (actually I'd probably go for something Miyota 9015 powered) or ~$1,000 for a watch powered by an ETA 2892-A2, or to EVER buy anything powered by the Valjoux 7750 (The Seiko 8Rxx is miles better).

And secondly because more options and more technical diversity is inherently a good thing to people interested in horology. If you have no interest in the micromechanical machines that power your watches and just want something that you like the looks of, then you can head over the watch discussions on >>>/fa/, or anywhere else on the internet for that matter.

>> No.60037758

there's no reason to dislike nomos. most people here like the brand.
it's literally one guy spamming that "homos" shit every time. most people just ignore him, except for that autist that thinks making a balance wheel is a great accomplishment. the two of them have been spamming the threads for a few weeks now.

>> No.60037775

dunno but I can't find a strap like that, ideas? I can only find 1 red stripe in the middle

>> No.60037817

>except for that autist that thinks making a balance wheel is a great accomplishment
It is when no production watchmaker had made the necessary investments to develop that capacity in 40 years.

>> No.60037883
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Today I've finally filled and fired up the cleaning machine. Already ran two quartz service jobs and a personal Seiko 6106, all came out nice and clean. I'm starting to feel like the big boys now.

I've still got quite a few of my own movements to run through it though:
>Seiko 7019
>Citizen Cosmotron 7803
>my grandfathers Vostok 2409
>Raketa 2628
Also I'll maybe give my Ronda 1377 quartz a proper cleaning, and the two old shit Ruhla digital jump hour watches I have in my shit bin.

>> No.60037903

Can you service Orients?

>> No.60037904

And this makes Nomos better than the rest how?

>> No.60037935

Just spray-em with WD40 and dab some bearing grease here and there and they're good as new.

>> No.60037937

it shows they give a shit and are not just resting on their laurels.

>> No.60037956

Well congratulations to them, but this makes a watch made by Nomos better that the rest how?

>> No.60037962

It makes Nomos better than the multitude of low effort "watchmakers" in the $750 - $3,500 price bracket who shove 30 year old ETA movement designs into Chinese made cases and spend the rest on marketing to pleb-catch normalfags.

If Nomos is successful following this strategy it may encourage others to make those investments and increase the technical diversity of production mechanical watches, which I like, because I'm a movement autist.

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Looks dated. Pic related is superior.

Also having roman numerals together with normal numbers for the date doesn't work for me.

>> No.60037974

pajeet please go

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>> No.60037992

Nice looking 6106! Was there any undue wear on it? How's it running now that it's been serviced?

>> No.60038008

There's nothing wrong with older/classic designs, jackass.

>> No.60038012

I'm not the autist by the way.
It doesn't make the watch better by itself. But it allows them to have thin automatics, idiosyncratic complications, and adapt the movement to the design of the watch (and not the other way around like brands who just case ETAs).
Plus it's pretty neat.

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But yeah, I can service Orients, they're nice, simple and robust (assuming you mean the common 46943), but I probably live across the globe from you, so you're probably better off looking for a local watchmaker unless you like in India or Africa.

Also servicing watches through mail is a hassle not worth the money, I make the same money just changing batteries in shitters for an hour that I would be servicing a Japanese automatic in three days.

>> No.60038067

That's a silly comparison. The Tissot is a $155 quartz in a deliberately very traditional roman numeral dress watch style. It makes no sense to compare it to a Bauhaus design, much less one at that pricepoint.

>> No.60038097

>Case size 58 x 54 mm, Thickness 15 mm
Oh I'm laffin.

>> No.60038098 [DELETED] 

>traditional design


>> No.60038099

Found it on aliexpress.


>> No.60038155

>Being this obviously fake

No thanks.

>> No.60038173

Pic is not mine, just a pic off the net. Mine had some discoloration on the rotor, assuming it's corrosion, and some rust on the movement spacer and the inner case walls. But the movement is fine, though the Achilles-heel of the 61xx (excessive wear due to the lower barrel arbor bearing being metal instead of a jewel) is starting to show with barrel marks starting to grow on the mainplate and the bride. Here's the problem, and also the solution:


I'll try to look up the exact size of that jewel that needs to be retrofitted, should be an easy fix.

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I meant that the STYLING was traditional, obviously. Pic related is what the Sekelchasers at the Swatch Group are copying, aesthetically.

>> No.60038235

>no minute indices

Why do watchmakers do this?

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>> No.60038323

>20mm only

>> No.60038371

Basically the usual le edgy anti-trendy perpetual contrarians that eventually flock to and clog this site and all its boards don't like the sudden popularity of the LOOK of these watches; nothing about them technically, which is what this thread is supposed to be mainly about.
Leddit has a hard on for them, therefore they are bad. "Muh minimalism" is shit that's been getting a lot of play in the mainstream lately, and those shitty denzel washington malljunk watches you see everywhere that have similar styles - posters here don't like the popular.

You must know this by now if you're been floating around here long enough, and if you haven't, it will become apparent to you soon enough. Go to any board: anything liked by reddit is shit on, no matter its real merit. Anything liked by mainstream normies is similarly shit on, again, irrespective of actual faults and positives. You'll see this in /fa/, /g/, /tv/, /co/, /mu/, /pol/, /a/ and probably every fucking board except that dinosaur flash board and the papercraft board nobody ever visits anymore.

TL;DR: they're fine mid range watches that your friend can waste his money on if he really likes them.
/wt/ doesn't like them because the look is popular in the wider world at the present, and because reddit likes them too much. The End.

>> No.60038419

Use its description to find bigger sizes

>> No.60038428

>Wristlets BTFO, how will they ever recover

>> No.60038481

Muh minimal aesthetic.

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I just won this on eBay, I think it'll look great once I get a nicer strap on it.

>> No.60038535

>de luxe
My autism. Looks nice otherwise.

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On the subject of Rolexes on perlons.

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On the subject of Rolexes on perlons...

>> No.60038675

It doesn't bother me desu, especially considering the price £13.28.

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>> No.60038754

Are you shopping your pics?

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Doing gear trains on women's watches and trying to align them is suffering.

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I really suffered with my grandmothers Slava 1601.

At least I see her wearing it.

>> No.60039093

that looks dope anon

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Recommend a watch for my gf(male).

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I just won this Tudor on ebay. How much do you think a service will cost and should I have the crystal replaced or just cleaned?

>> No.60039201

OP 36

>> No.60039220

probably around a $1K if you send it to rolex

>> No.60039240

New crystal and crown would be difficult to get your hands on. But the case is fine, needs a nice clean though.

>> No.60039307

I adjust the white balance and exposure in Lightroom, as well as cropping and adding vignetting. I deleted the pic and re-posted it because I realized I messed up the white balance as soon as I posted it.

>> No.60039318
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What does /wt/ think of my padi???

>> No.60039321
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>probably around a $1K if you send it to rolex

Serious? I thought Rolex doesn't service very old watches anymore. I only paid €390 with shipping


Oh shit! I only noticed the missing crown now :(

>> No.60039364

You paid €390 for watch in THAT condition? I hope you are prepared to spend €1,000 more AT LEAST restoring it, if you can even get parts for it.

>> No.60039442

its nice but I'd get a different rubber strap. never been a fan of that one

>> No.60039462
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Crown is the only part missing and the strap

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shit I didn't realize the movement. bring it to an independent guy who works on vintage and he should be able to do it for around $400 if you dont want sapphire

>> No.60039517

Why would you ever buy such an old beaten piece of shit?

>> No.60039584

Like it, though would think the blue would go better with all yellow gold as opposed to the two tone.

>> No.60039623
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To restore it, what else?

The description said it's a rare Tudor with a honeycomb dial from the 1940's.

>> No.60039635

Missus wants a seethrough plastic watch, what can I get which is brand new?

>> No.60039650

get him a HOMOS :DDD

>> No.60039665
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This is what the dial should look like apparently

>> No.60039676

It's actually dark brown, but the brown on the EULIT Panama is so dark it's hard to tell in photos. Anyone happen to know if the new EULIT Palmas are the same brown as the Panamas? It looks lighter in pictures, but who knows if that's accurate.

>> No.60039703

If you want a see through plastic watch swatch has tons of choices.

>> No.60039726

Then you got very lucky. It'll tidy up lovely. Assuming you can find a crown.

Maybe an old gold oysterdate crown will suffice.

>> No.60039746


According to the back case it's a 1942 Rolex Tudor

>> No.60039753

Do you even know how? Most of that watch looks fucked. The biggest pitfall is the missing crown, do you even know if the stem is still there?

>> No.60039879

Hi can anyone suggest a dressy 36-38mm starburst navy blue watch <$1000

>> No.60039932

Nice little ticker.

>> No.60039948
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This one maybe? Though it's quartz.

Or look around in the Seiko 5 lineup.

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>> No.60040196


thx m8s!

>> No.60040224

The second and third are ironic chinkshit, m8.

>> No.60040435
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>ironic chinkshit

No. They're actually high quality watches.


>> No.60040995

Define "High Quality"

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>> No.60041022

Can someone speak to the quality of the Celadon Imperial? In conversion to CAD its over $1000 and I really don't know if it justifies that price.

>> No.60041072

Kind of a silly question to ask, but as a starving student, should I save up for a $500ish watch or should I think long term and get a $2000+ watch years later?

I'm guessing I can only go for the higher end stuff once I have a career job. But I don't want to deprive myself of a good watch. Always loved the art of it, but never was able to actually buy one.

>> No.60041079

>Define "High Quality"

Thousands of watch snobs who vouch for their quality


>> No.60041091


Save up for a used Rolex Explorer

>> No.60041121

long term senpai. way more worth it in the end. Get yourself a shitter in the meantime to fix the craving. I bought my OP (>>60034819
) after making some good money from my first job

>> No.60041264

Adds a nice sporty spin on the watch.
Kinda add, but not bad by any means.

>> No.60041357
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Post your based lume shots. This was not shopped.

>> No.60041403
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k familia

>> No.60041539


It's just one bizarre faggot who started a few weeks ago, with maybe another egging him on because he thinks it's funny.

>> No.60041611

this is fake right?

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>> No.60041723


>tfw don't know how to manipulate photos on Android

That's a screenshot from the eBay store I bought it from

>> No.60041738

Should I be concerned with movements/automatics that has a 10 second discrepancy per day? Or is that a bit of fear mongering? I have always just gotten the usual quartz/battery/solar ones because that sounds more dependable to me. Or are there any good high quality watches that use solar/quartz?

>> No.60041757

>Should I be concerned with movements/automatics that has a 10 second discrepancy per day?
Only if you bought a chronometer

>> No.60041892

Sometimes I wonder how the fuck they even make such small watches.

>> No.60041928

No. You can regulate it if it bothers you that much,

>> No.60042045


What makes Chronometers bad?

>> No.60042096

Chronometers are usually expensive and certified to be under a specific accuracy of around 4-5 seconds a day i think. If it's around 10 seconds a day, then you've got a luxury piece of shit

>> No.60042699
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Lumed out life nigggga

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Thanks anon. It seemed a little odd at first but it's grown on me every day I've had it. I'll switch back to bracelet eventually.

>> No.60042767
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>> No.60042905

Mobile. I'm sorry.

>> No.60042923



>> No.60043137

All those stupid little green dots aren't even lume? Embarrassing.

>> No.60043250

If the crystal is acrylic, you can just use some polywatch.

>> No.60043256

what do you own plug?

>> No.60043263

Polywatch isn't a miracle worker bro, there are some deep gouges in that crystal.

>> No.60043284

Sure, but it'll help a lot. If you have patience, you can get rid of deeper scratches with it, too.

>> No.60043487

Very nice

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dat wrist tightness

>> No.60043495

Where you been nineball? We've missed you

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>> No.60043546

It looks like bart's neck.

very busy.

>> No.60043558

Hey /wt/ I picked up an old Seiko lordmatic off ebay and the second hand is stopping between 2 and 5, If I give it a few taps it starts moving again.
Does anyone have any idea what it could be ? I'll have to get it serviced but I have to find a good watch repairer too.
pic related

>> No.60043562
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fuck off ninefag

>> No.60043577

Is it true that Rolex makes me a snob? Or is the pedigree legitimate?

I am a little interested in other brands like Grand Seiko and NOMOS

>> No.60043581

welp thanks to you and Hodinkee, I'm now on a 36-40mm bender. 8" wrists.

should I sell my 42mm divers? do they really look like 'dinner plates'?

>> No.60043586

/r/ing poorfag watch guide infographic

>> No.60043602

42mm for a diver is fine, especially on an 8" wrist.

>> No.60043608

If a 42mm watch can work on 6.5" wrists, it'll look fine on 8" wrists.

>> No.60043625

Liking Rolex doesn't make you a snob. Liking Rolex and talking shit about Grand Seiko based on social perceptions of the respective brands rather than the objective merits of the watches would make you a snob.

>> No.60043629
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Over the top autism was the theme of 2011 + 1. You wouldn't know.

Divers tend not to look like dinner plates because it's generally multiple concentric shapes. The actual dial is significantly smaller than the overall watch if it has some space around the bezel, and then the insert, and then a possible chapter ring.

It's when you get something that is very hockey puck shaped and is all dial is when it will look like a plate.

>> No.60043634

Could be anything, only a watchmaker will be able to diagnose it.

>> No.60043647

that's some other guy, I think there's a resident autist here (shocker) who likes to repost things that others have posted with slight variations.. still haven't worked out why he does this

>> No.60043656

904 stainless, in-house, immaculate reliability/durability...

no. you're not a snob, you just have more money than me.

>> No.60043668



>> No.60043676


It's literally a bot you're arguing with

>> No.60043684

>It's literally a bot you're arguing with
I'm not arguing with anyone
also, stop being paranoid

>> No.60043734

As long as you don't lord over people, thinking you're part of the ubermensch for owning a rolex, no. Not being a blind fanboy also means you're not a snob. You can appreciate the technical qualities, how it's finished or whatever just fine without being a cock.

Basically being a snob makes you a snob, not owning a rolex.

>> No.60043889

So you think it's still 2011?

>> No.60043954

I said 2011 + 1.

Just so you know, that means 2012.

>> No.60045099
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say someone bought 2 good (not perfect), but really good examples of the Omega Seamaster 2000 Cosmic in both white and black, for $400 each....

Did that buyer get buttslammed on cost?

(pic related but borrowed from googs)

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400 is an okay price (though I've certainly never cared for the 2000) but why two?

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for variation (black/white)

this photo's different from the 2 I bought, mine don't have the cushion case

1 last question: do these have the likely potential of increasing in value in the next 10+ years? Or are Omega vintage pieces a horrible investment (will they lose value)?

>> No.60045302

A random cosmic 2000 is not going to increase in value, no, especially given the 400-500 per watch for a service you'll have to spend.

>> No.60045313

thanks, I appreciate the info

>> No.60045325

Why arent there any quartz watches that move the second hand every 0.2 seconds for a smoother sweep? I wouldn't mind changing my battery every year instead of every few years if it meant I got a nice sweep.

>> No.60045334


you should immediately cease all vintage watch speculation and consider all watch acquisitions to be purchases, not investments.

>> No.60045338


this is called the bulova precisionist

>> No.60045366

I was thinking that when I was buying them desu

And I appreciate that advice. I really enjoy (love) watches. I need to divorce my brain from the 'investment' concept with watches.

Like most here, I buy/wear my watches, because I love them. Not as an investment. And if we're being honest, I don't think I'd have much respect for someone who only approached watches as an 'investment'.

>> No.60045373
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Seiko 5S21 m8.

>> No.60045381


this is not to say that you should entirely disregard how well a watch holds its value, i mean. but if you speculate in collectibles, you are inviting nothing but big losses and disappointment.

>> No.60045390

>bulova precisionist
OK, thanks! didn't realise it existed

>> No.60045461

Are you watchmakeranon?
IIRC there was some guy here, a watchmaking student. Haven't seen him on here in a while.
Thought he was dead.

>> No.60045472

He's not 'the' watchmakeranon.

>> No.60045502

your skin looks dry, yo
better moisturize that shit before you crack and bleed over all your shit

>> No.60045534

Yeah, I gave up. 20mm is the only size I can find just about everywhere. Perhaps I can start my own business marketing watch straps.

>> No.60045831
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That lume

>> No.60045843

probably some shitty fucking Swatch he bought with credit card reward points or a terrorist watch, whichever was cheaper

>> No.60045870

Anyone know omega history?
Why did they have a line of dress watches with the name "seamaster"? I mean, today that shit is their diver line; guessing that it wasn't so back in the day. Nevertheless, a dress watch range called "seamaster" is kind of odd.

>> No.60045909

This cool what's the movement

>> No.60045960

Most vintage watches look dressy regardless of the purpose because back then they had taste. It's only until later more distinct features became the norm.

>> No.60046136

What is this? Looks classy af

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>> No.60046174


Kill yourself. Also the model is right there on the dial, junghans chronoscope.

>> No.60046183

>implying you can read the grainy dial
>implying af is still relevant.

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>> No.60046194

If you couldn't read that on the dial, get your eyes checked bro.

>> No.60046241

Take better photos then kys

>> No.60046254

Not my pic m8, I'm just not blind.

>> No.60046274

Pretty good.

>> No.60046299

The couple of anons who have one love theirs.

>> No.60046314
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Yep. My pics really can't do it justice.

Unless I'm mistaken I don't think there are any left though (unless you buy used).

>> No.60046351

They weren't dress watches.

>> No.60046495

did you accidentally stumble away from tumblr you stupid nigger teenager?

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>> No.60046561

Kek stay mad ledditer

>> No.60046803

Is there any reason I shouldnt buy the digital Seiko Bond had in Moonraker used off Ebay?

>> No.60046862
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Surely there are better options.

>> No.60046892

Question /wt/: Should I wear a watch on an interview? Probably my SARG005 on a dark brown leather strap.

>> No.60046900

Maybe something a little less sporty if you have something like that.
But otherwise, yeh, sure.

>> No.60046919

Assuming everything fits well, sure.

For instance, if your shirt is too tight around your wrist your watch will look really tight and weird under your cuff. Or even worse, you wont be able to bring your cuff down over it and the watch will fold your cuff back.

>> No.60046973

fuck off to bed, ninefag

>> No.60046991


My next least sporty option is my Hamilton Khaki that I can probably take a leather strap off another one of my watches and use.


Are you calling me fat lel? My shirt fits pretty well length wise on my sleeves, last time I wore it like 2 weeks ago I don't recall it snagging.

>> No.60047018

>Are you calling me fat lel?

You could also be small, where the normal amount of slack in your cuff can't fit a watch that's too big for you.

Or you could just be planning to wear a shirt you like but it's a little more tight in the arm than normal.

>> No.60047046


normal amount of slack, thanks for info /wt/ senpai, if this works out we Rolex in the next few months and then I can get sodomized by my student loans

>> No.60047053


jesus. what? i didn't buy anything more expensive than a seiko 5 until my student loans were fully paid off.

>> No.60047054
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>order a nato strap for my bin laden casio
>realize I don't have any tool to replace the damn thing
>not even a fucking paperclip

>> No.60047079



>> No.60047083

I've used a normal hackmann knife.
get gud

>> No.60047102

I'm looking to "hydro mod" an f91w (fill with oil), has anyone here ever done it?

>> No.60047110


someone one or two threads ago had done it, plus the negative LCD mod.

>> No.60047206

I wouldn't recommend it. The seal is too shitty so when the watch is pressed on it leaks out the back. YMMV.

>> No.60047243

Damn really? That's no fun

>> No.60047259

Are solar/kinetic watches crap? Li-Ion batteries have definite lifespans and die out regardless of use. Are they just normal battery watches just with extraordinarily long lifespans?

>> No.60047294

I have two solar Seikos. Seiko implicitlly claims the capacitors never require replacement, but I don't believe it. But replacement capacitors are only like $8 anyway.
In any case, they've been running continuously for 3 years in a dark desk, only getting light when I pull the drawer out.

>> No.60047352

Yeah, on solars, do the panels last forever?

>> No.60047365



Nomos hater BTFO

>> No.60047501
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Somehow managed to do the job with an old pen.

>> No.60047727

Making a fake komandirskie seems like a fools errand, but on the off chance, my watch doesnt have any inscription as to where it's made. Neither russia, nor USSR. Is it from early 90's maybe, or am I the king of the poorfags for having a fake komandirskie?

>> No.60047819

Has anyone actually taken the time to strip the chrome off a brass Bocтoк? Was it difficult, or just a matter of babysitting a chemical solution?

>> No.60047836

Many people have. Either the whole case of a Komandirskie, or the bezel on an Amphibia. Looks neat. No idea how they do it, but the answer is out there if you look for it.

>> No.60047877

I know you can soak it in hydrochloric acid, but was hoping someone here had actually done it. Personally I love the way raw brass looks. Much better than chrome platting.

>> No.60047908
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This is very close to what I plan to do to the Bocтoк I have in the mail. Just has the wrong bezel.

>> No.60047929

Isn't that a factory plating though

>> No.60048060
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I've only seen factory chromed ones so I don't know. That was just a pick I found. The one I bought though is chromed. Although I plan to strip the chrome.

Pic related is what I ordered.

>> No.60048064
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I have thin wrists and like vintage watches like pic related

Where can I find one similar for under 300€?

>> No.60048105

>Not being a blind fanboy also means you're not a snob.

>> No.60048107

Look for ranff, a german vintage auction site.

>> No.60048189
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>Live in a 2 Million € skyscraper penthouse with views over the Atlantic Ocean
>wear a 50€ Amphibia with a franken dial

I don't give a shit. Get over this, plebs.

>> No.60048300

If you're this loaded you could have gotten a genuine military Amphibia. SAD!

>> No.60048358

Sadly it's one of my father's many flats. I just live on 800€ as a student living in his own so slavshit and Seikos is all I can afford.
Someday I'll inherit a couple Rolex DJs, a Cartier Ballon Bleu and a Girard Perregaux flyback chroograph though.

>> No.60048570
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This just showed up and it's pretty rugged looking. Should I shine it up if I want to wear it to a formal event?

>> No.60048582

lookin good bro
question: why f91w instead of f105w?

>> No.60048583

Looks fine as is m8. Is that one of those cheap vietnam croc straps?

>> No.60048594

same question here, but can anyone recommend a modern quartz clone/homage/in a similar style to these? all I can find is 38-42mm which is fine but not the same, really looking for something true to the style

>> No.60048601

>Looks fine as is m8. Is that one of those cheap vietnam croc straps?
the other ones i've seen in person were cheap and probably not authentic but they were very shiny, ultra polished

are they not supposed to look like that?

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>> No.60048628

Thanks. I didn't know they sold an MDV106 with a metal bracelet—mine came with a rubber strap.

>> No.60048795


>> No.60048877

$400 is not unreasonable for Cosmic 2000s in good condition, just be warned that they can be a huge pain for a watchmaker to open because they have one piece cases that open from front.

Basically, if the front crystal doesn't come out using a crystal tool, then the watchmaker will likely be forced to use compressed air blown in from the crown tube to try and pop off the crystal at considerable risk to the internals.

The most recent anon to buy a cosmic got lucky and his watchmaker succeeded in removing the crystal using a grabber tool. Just make sure you find a watchmaker who is either familiar with how to remove the crystal on those or look up guided online and send them to the watchmaker.

>> No.60048923

If I recall correctly, all the Seamaster Cosmic 2000s have the 75x movement, which is one of the best production automatic movements ever made. Prices on virtually all 56x or 75x powered Omegas have been rising over time, but with the cosmics trailing well behind the more traditional models. I certainly think some level of appreciation is likely, but nothing that would impress anyone. I'd expect those to be worth ~$800 - $1,000 in 10 years, which isn't even enough to cover the services in the meantime.

>> No.60048940

They can be, bit it requires you to succeed in front running the market and in finding mispriced items. I could sell three of my vintage watches at a significant profit due to those two factors. Not that I'm planning to sell them.

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>> No.60049020

Look on eBay for Sekonda or Poljot De Luxe. I just got one for £13.28, pic here. >>60038486

>> No.60049047

Embarrassing or fake.

>> No.60049496
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I need some strap recommendations for everyday casual wear.

>> No.60049558

The bracelet is perfect for that.
I put my diver on a rubber strap and I'm very happy with it though.

>> No.60049578
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Bonetto Cinturini

>> No.60049669


Fuckoff faggot. Just because Rolex does tasteful lume doesn't mean it's fake.

>the face of the 2015 Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39mm is classical: batons applied indexes (including 3 Luminous ones) and straight hands.

>> No.60049676

The stock bracelet since that watch has non standard lugs, if I recall correctly.

>> No.60049690
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That's not what the is referring to. He is mistakenly assuming that the small dots outside of each baton are supposed to be lume, like they used to be the Datejust (pic related). He doesn't realize that they are regular paint on the new Oyster Perpetual models and not lume at all.

>> No.60049809

Thanks friends.

>> No.60049837
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>see a nice watch you like
>it's quartz

>> No.60049876
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That looks horrific.

>> No.60049949


>> No.60049956

Please post a picture of this nice watch. You seem to have accidentally posted a hideous monstrosity.

>> No.60049990
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Nice shitty copy of the vintage Seiko 6138-0040

>> No.60050024

OK, so you are in the throes of a full blown mid life crisis and you were cheated out of lume. And it still cost a fortune.

I feel sorry for you, anon.

>> No.60050250

What's your wrist size?

>> No.60050268

Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8.

>> No.60050394


About three fiddy

>> No.60050458

I know that feel. And I'm not against quartz, when it's cheap or brings some new functionality. But too often the price isn't justified for a three-hander off the shelf quartz movement.

>> No.60050868


New thread

>> No.60050947

What is Frederique Constant you stupid nigger?

>> No.60050975
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>mfw is on the way

So excited for this

>> No.60051022

Frederique Constant does not design or manufacture their own escapements, and they are now owned by Citizen anyway, which was already on the list.

>> No.60051171

Do it right or don't do it at all

New thread

>> No.60051174


>> No.60051685

7inch, this is probably the biggest watch I'll wear.

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>phone posters

>> No.60052052

Oh, you mean those escapements that FC buys from Nivarox? Pro-tip: Nivarox is owned by ETA.




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