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This thread is about the appreciation of horological tech and shitter watches.



Required viewing for newbies:

Strap Guide:

>> No.60018585


you're probably reacting to the people more than you are to the straps themselves. they're normally worn by the sort of dudes who leave their shirt cuffs covering up part of the watch in wrist shots, rave about rusty old ebay seikos, and wear thick plastic framed glasses. it's a shame because the straps themselves aren't so bad, but it's almost impossible not to react with disgust to the sort of people who normally wear them.

>> No.60018620
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Oldfag posting

>> No.60018626
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Seiko Turtle.

btw these vanilla scented rubber straps are the best.

>> No.60018662

I think you may be right

>> No.60018674


That watch is sexy. Something about the colours and materials being too bling and naughty for the design just makes it perfect.

>> No.60018841

Hey slav chrono guy where did you buy that

>> No.60018902

Hey oldfag. What was it like back in your day when things were black and white?

>> No.60018955

treat him with respect you filthy animal.

a blink of an eye... and you'll be 70.

>> No.60019012
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i-it's just b-bants man.

>> No.60019043

I love the Oysterquartz, it's like a Royal Oak that doesn't suck.

>> No.60019066

>tfw just ordered a SARB017 just after buying this http://www.watchshop.com/mens-seiko-titanium-chronograph-solar-powered-watch-ssc392p9-p99992227.html

Such little time to wear them all

>> No.60019127
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Recommend a watch for my gf. Something fun and not expensive. Pic related is her.

>> No.60019186

>posting your gf on 4chins
probably not a great idea

>> No.60019190
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Your ``gf'' seems popular.

>> No.60019216

The strap guide doesnt list any good sellers for non mesh metal watchbands anymore

>> No.60019220
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>> No.60019228


>> No.60019239
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This is 8500€ from chrono24, a polish store. No box and or maybe papers.

Its a verified store with many sales. What am I walking into?

At that price point, might as well get a brand new one from germany for 11k€

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She doesn't know she's my gf yet



>> No.60019363


Not worth it. For that money, fly to Switzerland and buy one locally from a second hand dealer. I was stupid in my younger years. People offered me Pateks and Rolexes instead of payment for work but I was too money hungry at the time to see their value.

>> No.60019472 [DELETED] 


What was wrong with pateks and rolexes?

I know that things w/out papers and boxed might be stolen, hard time selling or servicing.

My optimistic side tells me its cheap because its Poland. And no box or papers does take a 1000€ away from some rolexes.

>> No.60019516


more vintage pieces please if you have them?

>> No.60019566
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Don't mind me I'm just joining in the regular plaid-posting with my new acquisition.

>> No.60019769
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Nice. Just ordered a casio gold meme myself.

>> No.60020211
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bought this shitter for outdoor work. liking it so far

>> No.60020220 [DELETED] 
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Posting my cool Tag Heuer

>> No.60020353


>posting upside down pictures

>> No.60020398
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Should get one of these instead.

>> No.60020534
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I'll have you know that I don't wear glasses and that I got vintage Seikos from Yahoo! Japan Auctions and not eBay.

>> No.60020557

That's because the only half decent option is Strapcode. Everything else is eBay Chinkshit tier.

>> No.60020584

Absolutely not. Giving even a single penny to TAG HueHue is entirely unjustifiable.

>> No.60020636 [DELETED] 


I like the middle one

>> No.60020646
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Nice choice, muh negra!

>> No.60020894

Does anyone know when and why the "hipster stitching" started?

>> No.60020929
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Working on weekends sucks, Comrades. In the incredibly unlikely scenario that anyone in this thread should have kids, tell them not to be accountants.

The last watch I bought was my 7018, which happened to be bought on Y! Auctions Japan. Incredibly risky, total pain in the ass, but the savings over all the fuckers charging $700+ for these things on eBay made its all completely worth it.

How is our watchmaker doing, btw? I haven't been back to Toronto since July of last year so it's been a long ass time since I've seen him.

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Opinions? The bezel is shopped though but my Vostok SE should look like that.

>> No.60021114
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Newest Amphibians this year are full stainless including new crown and bezel.

>> No.60021128
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Just because it's the easy way you stitch without a machine so all the leather craftsmen would do it this way.

Thoughts on pic related?

>> No.60021149 [DELETED] 


Looks nice, brand itself is an embasement.

>> No.60021194
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In case you are talking to me I got from an eBay auction for 210€ shipped in excellent condition. I bought it in Germany when I was studying there to a German seller and I can tell you that country is a paradise for slavshit collectors since there are a lot of sellers that only sell within the country. You can get used 3133s for better prices as internationally.

>> No.60021210
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It's still awful. Stop asking.

>> No.60021212


Thanks for the info, i was looking for a ~400 watch that can be adapted to both casual and dress, considering i'm in Euro i was also looking at the Laco watches who have roughly the same pricerange considering the import tariffs.

>> No.60021224
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I saw someone post that they were expensive outside the UK so I took advantage and got one from Amazon for £12.

The EL backlight is 100x better than the single led in the F-91W.

>> No.60021236

No one ever told me that, in fact you are the first one. What is wrong with the watch? Why would you save a pic of it if you think it's awful?

>> No.60021258
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What do you guys think of my collection?
Also got a g shock as a beater when I'm riding or skating.

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Looks nice, I've got a Trident 300 which is pretty well made especially the bracelet. I wish they used a 2892 top rather than a 2824 base though.

>> No.60021336


Looks good. What brand and movement?

Put it on ebay

>> No.60021352

The bezel, idiot.

>> No.60021371

No worries, there shouldn't be any fees from that seller as he's based in the UK.

>> No.60021388
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It's a Tisell... Sadly not a Stowa but the movement is 90S5 and seems good so far.

I adore my Seiko. So good.

Pic is movement of the Omega.

>> No.60021395

The bezel is beautiful, not as boring looking as yours. Get some taste, retard.

>> No.60021421

Do you have a wristshot of your Giugiaro? I like a lot and always wondered if it sits confirbaky on a wrist considering those weird pushers.

>> No.60021459

Does anyone here own a Seiko SNK809? Would it be a good purchase as my first watch or is it a meme?

Which color dial would be the most versatile?

>> No.60021460

Not trying to knock either brand, but can someone explain why Christopher Ward gets praised on here while Steinhart gets shat on?

>> No.60021491
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who /sinn/ here?

>> No.60021492

wow that is one angry looking watch

>> No.60021513
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It wears absolutely fine. I wouldn't know I wasn't wearing any other steel watch. I do wear on my right though.

>> No.60021518
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got this yesterday

>> No.60021525

Reminds me of the 90s Illuminators. First "nice" watch I owned was something like this. I was 8 years old, and it cost around 100usd in the third world country I grew up in.

>> No.60021577


>> No.60021594

>ask for opinions
>get upset
Lol okay.

A non-"boring" contrarian doesn't mean you have taste either, pal.

>> No.60021600
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That's always the trade-off with using Yahoo! Japan Auctions vs. using eBay. Much lower prices, but much higher buyer risk.

Our watchmaker is doing alright. I saw him recently to service what was my father's two-tone Rolex Datejust, which I'd had in storage and not been wearing for several years. I recently saw some pics of a two tone DJ on leather and really liked it, so I decided to get it serviced and start wearing it.

Been running nicely since he serviced it. The 3135 is a very nice movement.

>> No.60021678

That's simple. While Christopher Ward are shitters with derivative designs (in the sense of virtually all of their models being deliberate pasitches of the target genre), at least they are not blatant design copies or the utter design abortions that Steinshit's own designs are.

>> No.60021735

Personally I hate the design of the Chris Ward divers, those hands are vomit-inducing.

>> No.60021842
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I know this brand is hated here and supposedly you shouldn't jave a diver on leather but I think this is a damn fine looking watch.

>> No.60021866

People get autistic about the logo redesign.
The Trident is actually well regarded here.

>> No.60021912

Yea there's that fgt here who just constantly states that it say CoWard... It looks nothing like the word Coward.

>> No.60021940

Those hands are atrocious in and of themselves, and on top of that they don't match those thin stick indices at all.

Also, is there a reason this watch is almost twice the price of that titanium Steinhart?
On paper the Steinhart beats the snot out of it for that price.

>> No.60021962

Does the watch head go at the top or bottom of the nato strap?

>> No.60021991
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R8 pls

I think I'll be returning it, feels too tall and big.

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i think there are three sinn owners who frequent these threads

>> No.60022106
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very nice

>> No.60022173

Fuck off and kill yourself Steinshit shill.

>> No.60022280

I only learned about the Steinshit yesterday.

Now answer my very fair question, buttercup.

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>> No.60022335

>Those bezel scratches
>Because he bought a non-tegimented model




>> No.60022367


my 856 UTC has picked up a couple of bezel scratches now too. dunno what happened. at least they are not too visible.

>> No.60022411

The fuck is your problem anyway?

Don't come to a watch discussion thread if you don't want to discuss watches.

Chr. Ward vs Steinhart is a pretty fair comparison, they're both known for making pretty cheap homages.

Tegimented cases have their own issues.

The hardening is very superficial, so they suffer what is known as "eggshell" cracks, which are supposedly worse than straight-up gouges.

>> No.60022568

Can you provide some pictures and links regarding the issues with Tegimenting? I haven't heard of it before now.

>> No.60022664
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I like the scratches because I wear my watch

>> No.60022723
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Just google "sinn tegiment eggshell" or some similar combo.

Found tiny ant pic related after two seconds.

Only ever read about it myself.

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Is this the eggshell stuff?

>> No.60023041

>tag hurr

>> No.60023066

Is there any company that manufactures watches with the crown on the right side of the dial?

>> No.60023090

This guy I watch rugby with always has nice Rolexes on that he got as gifts from his rich heiress wife. He doesn't know shit about them, he just wears it for shits and giggles.

>> No.60023102

They have them on the left?

>> No.60023105

Why did he delete his Tag shitter? Are you there TagAnon?

>> No.60023154
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All of them. Do you mean that has it on the left for people to wear on their right hand?

If so there are a few, the left handed version of the Tudor Pelagos springs to mind.

>> No.60023205

Find out what models they are then swap them for cheap fakes when he's getting changed. He'll never know and you'll have some nice Rolexes.

>> No.60023290

Are there watches with jumping minute hands

>> No.60023307
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I got banned for some reason plz no bully

>> No.60023316
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How do you guys set the tightness of a metal strap? I've had nothing but leather straps for many years and I just got my first metal strap but can't quite decide on a tightness.
Do you try and stick to a guideline like fitting two fingers underneath or something?

>> No.60023361
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Are you in Australia?

>> No.60023370


A bit loose is always better. As long as kt keeps in place

>> No.60023374

Your wrist will expand and contract thru the day. Generally if you just set it so when your wrist is expanded it's on the tight side of comfortable that should work.

One way to find that setting would be to set it how you think you might like it, but then if your wrist ever expands so much it's uncomfortable to wear you need to make it 1 setting looser and stay at that setting unless it happens again.

>> No.60023473

So is strapcode

>> No.60023499
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Does anybody know anything about these watches?

I got a $50 disccount from some youtuber giveaway contest, but I can't find out much about them or if it would be worth buying pic related or not.

>> No.60023528

ah shit yeah, I'm not so good with left and right.

>> No.60023585
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Jesus. Don't buy that.
You actually fell for the $50 discount code scam?

>> No.60023588

Can you even read the time?

>> No.60023645


You can get them for $10 on Aliexpress

>> No.60023666
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>> No.60023695

No, that's why I was asking you guys. I don't know much about watches but I was thinking it's time to move on from my digital casio.

>> No.60023859

>when he's getting changed
Is that what you do when you watch rugby?

>> No.60023867

Strapcode has decent quality and QC for the price. I mean everything else is $1 + free shipping chinkshit tier.

>> No.60023978

Seiko or Orient

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>> No.60024533
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Nice seiko.

>> No.60024563

>should have kids

Having kids is incompatible with the 21st century economy for the working class.

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Can someone tell me what Omega was thinking?

The idea itself is kinda neat but why did they use such a low resolution print? Looks like someone printed the subdials at home and then glued them on their watch.

>> No.60024612


That looks ridiculous. In what sort of social situation would that fit in.

>> No.60024689
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What's the ideal nato strap colour?

>> No.60024780


that's just what the chinese dial shop had on hand anon

>> No.60024834

What were your sources on what watch to buy in when you were young? How did you even know if they were reputable?

>> No.60024936

It reminds me of Halo CE.

One where you're not with autists. So most.

Black, brown, or olive.

>> No.60025078


2 fingers is fucking massive. That's like the pawn shop owner's dangler of a watch. I wouldn't even be able to fit a finger under my watch when it's on my wristbone.

>> No.60025324

For me, it's the Rolex Milgauss

>> No.60025409
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The problem with the logo redesign is that there is no longer a fucking logo.

>> No.60025600
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I don't think this project's gonna work out guys. I'm just gonna save for a vintage.

>> No.60025765

Seems like a waste of money all for a fucking franken

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>> No.60026092
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damn that bracelet is sexy

>> No.60026733
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Some people are really committed to the franken game

>> No.60026758

hi i'm going to buy a Sinn 556i

most cost-effective way to buy pls?

>> No.60026775



>> No.60026946

if you want to buy new you might save a hundred bucks buying from a euro retailer vs watchbuys, check chrono24

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Why do they make them so ugly

>> No.60026957


Not worth it. You're only buying the brand.

>> No.60026982
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Just ordered a Starking from China to use as a beater, will report back when it arrives.

>> No.60027038

Sinn? That gorgeous little 'go anywhere, do anything watch'? For under $1k?

Dressy enough, tough enough, and something I can wear in the pool? And that dial... Have you seen that dial irl?

and you're really not going to like this part: My wrists are 8 inches. You might think the watch will look 'tiny'. But I'm just not into the gigantic monstrosities that you millennials have embraced.

>> No.60027041

Because muh tool watches.

They're designed with high contrast/easy readability in mind.

>> No.60027051

At that point why not make a neat watch with some character instead of some fake that will instantly loose people's respect when they find out what it is?

>> No.60027072


i bought from watchbuys, zero regrets. having done it once i would only buy a sinn from an AD in the future for the same reason i would only by a casio new from an AD. it's a tool watch and i want it working, so i want the warranty and no questions about whether the previous owner dropped it.


i don't think my 856 came with 8 inches of bracelet. you should check into that.

>> No.60027194


ps do you think I'll look foolish wearing a 38mm watch for a daily? I'm 6'3" with large wrists. I'm okay with it, I prefer 36-42(MAX)mm.

>> No.60027208


$1k for a 2824 with none of the technology Sinn is known for.

>> No.60027225


6'3" and wear a 38mm sarb035 daily.

>> No.60027252
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It would be nice if someone would like to sell me their 556i on a bracelet for a fair price (I'm not trying to make a killing).


>> No.60027271

Fantastic. I like your taste btw, the Sarb035 and 033 are awesome. And for the price! Presage-quality...

>> No.60027278


the size will be fine.

i am not entirely sure i see the point of the 556i though. it's like an 856 but with everything sinn™ taken out, including most of the dial styling.

>> No.60027289

It would have been cool to have tegimented steel case/bracelet, I agree.

I'd consider Damasko, but I just can't get over the grey, bead-blasted look (like a car with primer).

Archimede makes a cool little Ickler-hardened Outdoor, but Sinn tops it in the looks department.

>> No.60027301


as far as i know the tegimented ones are all blasted. i could be wrong.

>> No.60027307

I think the 556i looks great. Fixed-bezel diver, field watch, dressy enough for many semi-formal occasions...

but yes, see >>60027289

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Both the tegimented sinns and ice hardened damaskos have a dull bead blasted look to them, don't they?

>> No.60027327

That's the problem with this hardened steel (although Damasko did an incredible job on its DK101's case finish).

the satinized finish on the 556i is amazing.

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quite so

except for Damasko's DK101 (pic related)

why can't Damasko and Sinn finish their hardened cases like THIS

>> No.60027352


i mean i don't quite get how you decided on the 556i out of the very large market of 38mm brushed non-tegimented, non-argon-filed, non-antimagnetic, non-kupfersulfat ETA-powered watches with date and no numeric indices.

>> No.60027370

Does anyone have a good recommendation for non-padded leather 'croc' straps? I'd love to find a navy, black and dark brown.

>> No.60027386

Camille Fournet, you can customize the dimensions to however you want. Read up on reviews, etc. They're also the shop JLC uses for their straps.

>> No.60027390

looks and utility. how does anyone decide on a watch. it's all subjective, no?

>> No.60027402
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Back looks quite nice too.

>> No.60027408

those sound delightful, are they somewhat affordable? I'll get on the reviews post haste.

>> No.60027421

The croc straps are around $200, but then that's around how much you should expect to pay for a real croc strap.

>> No.60027442

Amazing. I tried for months to find one.


>also the silicon hairspring

>> No.60027464

Nice, thanks good sir

>> No.60027479

Could wait for the DK105 I suppose.

>> No.60027523

True, I wonder if they'll change the fundamental layout/color of the dial.

>> No.60027877

>electro luminescence
holy fuck which model is this
I checked out some of their digitals today and saw that they use a shitty green LED and almost vomited as a result

tell me this one uses an indiglo clone

>> No.60027897

saw this one in-store recently and it was sexy, looks far better IRL than the other casio digitals. Reminds me of some kind of James Bond watch. What the fuck is that complication in the upper-left tho? Muh weird circle

>> No.60027917


there are a shitton of casios with EL backlights. f105w is basically an f91w but with EL instead of LED in the corner, if that is what you are after.

>> No.60027936

>. f105w is basically an f91w but with EL instead of LED in the corner, if that is what you are after
except the case is fucking ugly and a completely different design

>> No.60027951


are you sure you are not confusing the f105w with the f108wh? the differences between the f91w and f105w cases are extremely minor. the most visible difference is in the decal under the crystal.

>> No.60027994

It's an analog time display. You can use it for another time zone, it's too small to read easily.

>> No.60027999

>are you sure you are not confusing the f105w with the f108wh?
oh, maybe I am

>> No.60028020


i know the f105w case is slightly thicker than the f91w case, but i'd rather not go dig around for the calipers.

>> No.60028043

any major differences between the two from memory? only $4 different on amazon

>> No.60028088


other than the thickness they look and feel exactly the same to me. the f105w decal has a lot more blue on it but they are essentially the same other than those things and the EL backlight. the straps are identical. the modules are not quite identical (slight differences in alignment of the LCD elements) but the feature set and pusher functions are identical.

you can get exactly the same module in stainless (with or without gold plating) in the a168 series.

>> No.60028109

>you can get exactly the same module in stainless (with or without gold plating) in the a168 series.
I'd buy one of those but the faux-metal plastic is just too tacky for me

>> No.60028122


it's pretty gross, but on the plus side, that'll be the last gold standing on the gold model.

>> No.60028264
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should i buy this?

>> No.60028286
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Find yourself a time computer m8.

>> No.60028508

everyone does. yes. black.

>> No.60028574

Nah, that appears to be a uniform wear pattern. The eggshell thing refers to point damage, where the softer material below the hard surface gives way, making the hard surface crackle rather than just create a little gouge.
Not even sure how true it is, but it's something you often hear about Sinns.

>> No.60028588

Fuck that watch. Fuck the 7s26. Buying a mechanical that can't even hand wind is retarded.

>> No.60028610


i don't regret buying one, but i never wear mine anymore. the sys51s i still wear.

>> No.60028619

Apologies I misread and thought you played rugby with him.

Ask to see it then do a sleight-of-hand maneuver to swap it for a fake.

>> No.60028683

It's a W-86, the EL is much better than the shitty green LED. See >>60021224 for a comparison.

>> No.60028720

Apparently someone doesn't know about winding wear....

>> No.60028783
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>She doesn't know she's my gf yet
in that case...

>> No.60029011
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Seiko blue lagoon samurai. I think it looks really sharp, but its 44mm and cost 500usd though. Should I get it?

>> No.60029176

>having a watch with gimmicky nigger-dials instead of just of just 3 hands
Why? You're never going to fucking use them and they'll just clog up the watch.

>> No.60029187

it's called a chronograph

>> No.60029278

Get a turtle motherfucker, save some money.

>> No.60029282
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Where can I buy one of these which isn't $4,000?

>> No.60029315

Yeah, I knew that, and the fact that you do as well doesn't make you any less than a gimmick-loving nigger

>> No.60029326

*less of

>> No.60029360
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>> No.60029568

I don't like them

>> No.60029658
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Are chink watch glass presses any good?
Are the sapphire crystals on Ali any good?

>> No.60029673

They're for spacemen. These are nasa watches. If you were from that generation you'd get it.

>> No.60029724

>some fake

It's made with original parts, it's not fake

>> No.60029749

>fake movement

>> No.60029774


Maybe if you knew anything about that calibre Rolex movement you would realise that everyone who restores them uses Chinese made replica parts because Rolex doesn't make them anymore.

>> No.60029791

Should I buy a Bagelsport "nautilus" for $50? I don't usually want to buy dogshit but this is tempting as I probs will never buy a real Patek.

>> No.60029820

it's not an original part though, is it?

>> No.60029838


As vintage watches age, many components such as hands, crowns, and crystals may become unavailable from the original manufacturer. Over time and through servicing, many of these components may be replaced by a watchmaker simply looking to provide a finished product for his client. As they pass through subsequent owners and more and more components are replaced with aftermarket replacements or “borrowed” pieces, the watch stops being genuine and essentially becomes a Franken.

>> No.60029865

Has anobody here got an AP serviced? Are the costs really that high as people suggest?

>> No.60029874


Yes. Stay away if you can't afford it. Same with expensive cars.

>> No.60029904

The base amount for a service AP charges is $950, or at least it was when archie got his 14790ST serviced. Add on top of that the components replaced and all the other shit AP charges you, the total was over $3000USD.

Expect AP to absolutely fuck you for service fees.

>> No.60029924

I guess you got me there.

>> No.60029938

Archie's AP was in really bad condition. They basically rebuilt the whole movement, replaced the hands, crown etc.

>> No.60029952

You could make the argument that not all those parts were necessary to replace I guess. Regardless the absolute minimum AP is going to charge for a service is $950.

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>> No.60029989

Why don't you order a watch from AliExpress ?

They look good and I doubt there's anything wrong with them

The "Chinese build inferior products" is an old meme, I'm pretty sure they can build a decent watch in fucking 2017

>> No.60029995

Not for $40 they can't.

>> No.60030006

>I'm pretty sure they can build a decent watch in fucking 2017
Well, they will be broken and in the garbage bin by the end of 2017.

>> No.60030035

because i need to be able to rely on my watch. i can't trust a cheap chinese movement.
and that's only one of the many reasons i won't buy an aliexpress watch.
i buy lots of watch-related things there though.

>> No.60030036

This is a meme.
Why not?
They can build great phones for 30% price of your shitty American companies so why not watches?

>> No.60030045

>muh European reliability

yeah only the Swiss are able to build a watch in 2017 dude... it's such an advanced technology that not many can pull it off

>> No.60030058

QC. Comparing watchmaking to making phones is apples & oranges m8.

>> No.60030066

It's not a fucking meme. But your post is a bait.
Chinks have no QC at all. I've owned 3 chink watches and they always shit themselves within 2 months.

>> No.60030081

i don't own a single swiss watch.

>> No.60030111
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>i can't trust a cheap chinese movement.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.60030123

Watchmaking countries ranked:
1. Switzerland (non-Swatch/ETA)
2. Japan
3. Germany
7. Swatch/ETA swiss
104. China

>> No.60030140

I'm very curious about the countries you omitted from your list

>> No.60030147
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>Chinks have no QC at all.


>I've owned 3 chink watches and they always shit themselves within 2 months.


>> No.60030149

Where's India?

>> No.60030213
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Time for you to leave, Xi Quanping.

Taiwan is Real China Free Tibet Tenzin Gyatso Dalai Lama Google Gmail Alphabet Facebook Twitter Kuomingtang

>> No.60030215




>> No.60030240

it looks sexy, too bad you can't get it without the date thing. I hate having to readjust the date every time a month with less than 31 days goes by

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I told you in the last threads faggot, I'm not Chinese or Asian.

Go swallow more marketing cum.

>> No.60030265


swatch.com has several other options

>> No.60030267


>> No.60030288

But communists have already free Tibet.

>> No.60030290

Not counting smartwatches, name one major advance in watch technology in the last 5 years.

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You're the faggot who bought 3 $5 Aliexpress shitters then complain about QC >>60030066
>I've owned 3 chink watches

So you should go back to your containment thread

>> No.60030333


>> No.60030342

Hey shrimp dick, go somewhere else.

>> No.60030352
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LG G Watch R.

>> No.60030353

Spring drives?

>> No.60030358
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>> No.60030380

The genequand escapement, MEMS (though that's probably older than 5 years), silicon technology in general.

The first spring drive prototype was made in 1982, the first models actually sold came out in 2004.

>> No.60030399

>muh quality built
these watch threads are pure LARPing

>> No.60030472

Faggot, go kill yourself. Why you have no respect for China? These are not joking matters.

>> No.60030486
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Pic related Swiss QC

>> No.60030499

>implying China has other choices than $5 aliexpress mechanicals

Bro, China can't do quality. Anyone who does quality gets fucked by people with guanxi who can't compete.

>> No.60030502

>respect for China
I have respect for the Real China and their people.

>> No.60030589

How do I get water out of the dial? Right now it's in a jar of rice but that does not seem to really do anything other then just concentrate the water to the center of the dial.

Long story short the fucking idiots watchmakers that I gave them the watch to fix the broken glass did a shit job in closing and sealing it as well.
So now I have water all over the dial (from a dip in the pool), there is actually a drop of water on the seconds hand moving with it with each beat...
I dont wanna send it again, as I dont trust anyone of those fucking jews(actually jews) here to actually do a decent job.

Watch is Orient Defender. Can I open it, remove the crown and dial and just wipe/dry it and put it all back? (I build scale models so I have the tools and precision, yet I've never opened a mech/auto watch before)
Will that be enough? and wouldn't the water sitting there impact the lubrication of the entire movement in the long run?

>> No.60030595
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Steve Jobs Seiko. Buy it now or regret it later.

>> No.60030639

Assuming you didn't just fuck up and not screw down the crown, hope you got your money back for a shit service.

>> No.60030640


Take it apart

>> No.60030647

Don't buy from Switzerland you're better off buying from a dealer in Italy as the tax back is better

>> No.60030725

There he is!
The words don't work unfortunately.

>> No.60030734

The heart and arguably most defining part of the watch is still effectively a fake though. At least in second anons example that owner started with the real thing, and parts got swapped because of wear.

>> No.60030760


They're both considered Franken

>> No.60030811

It's kinda like buying the body of a Ferrari and putting a civic engine in it. Then claiming it's still a Ferrari.

>> No.60030844

It's like buying a Ferrari and buying another engine which is identical but not made by the same company because the original blew up. Still a Ferrari

>> No.60030854

What work do you do

>> No.60030860

What if you took every piece of a Ferrari and replaced them, one by one, with aftermarket parts. Is it still a Ferrari?

>> No.60030861

At that point why not make something more interesting than a fake Ferrari with 5 miss matched pannels.

>> No.60030885

If they were replicas which were the same, yes

That's why you don't buy shit parts

>> No.60030920

Why are Bocтoк watches so cheap? Are they half decent?

>> No.60030946

Because they're made with decades old machines, use chrome plated brass, etc. They're really not that good in the grand scheme of things. At least they're reliable, and you only pay a small amount for what you get.

>> No.60030976

Ah. Well for ~$40 that's not bad. Are the moments workhorse reliable?

>> No.60030987
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>use chrome plated brass

No they don't faggot. Only Komandirskies have that

>They're really not that good in the grand scheme of things.

LIES!!! They are more reliable than Swiss shit. pic related

>> No.60031007

Give this a watch m8.


I was talking about the komandirskies, maybe should have specified that but whatever. I even said they were reliable. Where's your reading comprehension m8?

>> No.60031136

>No they don't faggot. Only Komandirskies have that
the bezel on amphibias is brass

>> No.60031137

Interesting. Thanks for the video.

>> No.60031239


That video is amazing.

>> No.60031426

Can I put something on the crystal so that it doesn't attract so much finger prints?

>> No.60031433

don't put your fingers on it, for a start.

>> No.60031544
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John Mayer – an avid vintage watch collector who has acquired over 100 exceptional timepieces of his favoured manufacturers – recently sued his L.A. based dealer over ‘counterfeit’ Rolex watches caused quite a stir in the collectors’ community, and also brought to light some of the issues surrounding the business of vintage watches.

Essentially, Mayer found out that several of the vintage watches he owned, which he had purchased from his dealer, contained components which were not ‘original’ or ‘authentic’. This assessment came directly from Rolex, known to be very careful in protecting their image, especially when it comes to vintage collectible models.

For vintage collectible watches, authenticity means 100 percent original parts; this is the key factor that ultimately determines the value of the watch. But, authenticity in a vintage piece may be very tricky to both define and establish.

In the past, Rolex outsourced some of their parts from a number of suppliers, which accounts for the minor variations on cases and dials, found mainly on the most popular vintage Submariners and Daytonas from the 1950s and ’60s. These models can be very hard to assess, but fortunately Rolex keeps very good records that watch experts can refer to in order to determine whether a piece is really genuine.

>> No.60031741

A couple of people who browse these threads have Vietnamese alligator straps on order. There is a big alligator farming industry in Vietnam and so there is a big trade in real alligator goods.

Once I get my strap I will report on quality. From what I've read online they are supposed to be amazing for the ~$35 USD they charge.

>> No.60031796

>""""Restore"""" a Rolex
>Using a fucking shitty chink no QC non free sprung balance movement
No. That's a Chinkshit FAKE and is fit for the garbage can.

>> No.60031809

Kill yourself.

>> No.60031824
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>Not Chinese
What did he mean by this?

>> No.60031829

Swatch is garbage and so are you, shitposter.

>> No.60031839

Pick one and only one, faggot.

>> No.60031848

These threads are toxic as fuck.

>> No.60031859

Show me the Chinkshit movement with a parachrom hairspring, free sprung balance and Belreguet overcoil, you inveterate pleb.

Also kill yourself, you shitposting faggot.

>> No.60031900

This is the case at the moment because a few weeks ago one or two dedicated shitposters started targeting these threads, and they have been deliberately shitting up every thread since.

They'll eventually get bored, just as all the previous shitposters eventually have.

>> No.60031917

Anyone own a Seiko AGAM601?

>> No.60031974


Pathetic how these Rolex snobs can't even tell real from fake

>> No.60031979
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Yes. Pic related

>> No.60031997
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>> No.60032255
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Why are Omegas going down in price all the time?

>> No.60032298

Made me chuckle.

>> No.60032420


>> No.60032498


Omegas are made in China that's why

>> No.60032562

I got mine off eBay for $370. The watch is stunning

>> No.60032621

Vintage (pre swatch) ones aren't nigga.

>> No.60032663

It goes fine at work. I wear a button shirt and black jeans. It's austist-free.

>> No.60032666

You forgot to sign yourself off with "t. autist"

>> No.60032705

Vintage everything is not made in China.

>> No.60032722

He is right you know.jpg

>> No.60032729

There's a reason I said identicle, I didn't say it could be done

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>> No.60032921

Agreed, there are a few autists who frequent this thread who like to sperg their autistic opinions and hope nobody calls them out on their idiocy. If they either leave or just sort themselves out the problem will go away.

>> No.60033015

Also notice how all these archie shitposters never post their collections themselves?

>> No.60033211

Archiefags might be annoying, but at least they don't promote toxic fakes and "homages" like some shitposters

>> No.60033229 [DELETED] 

>dat get
Holy shit nigga

>> No.60033254


>> No.60033452
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anons, this is my summer combo

>> No.60033477
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>> No.60033501

that's a pic you took from reddit

>> No.60033512

Is this an AI generated image?

>> No.60033522

or I use reddit just for r/watches... and for pissing off shitlibs

>> No.60033533

>Theseus' rollie

>> No.60033554

Does someone know a durable watch which has superluminov, date and air pressure / temperature or body temp measurements?

>> No.60033597

Don't talk shit about mymannatt's movements

>> No.60033615


All the repair parts are made in China

>> No.60033617

Please respond

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I got a couple. Theyre a meme but a good meme. Go for it. Cant go wrong with the black.

>> No.60033660

>Cant go wrong with the black.
you sound swedish

>> No.60033665

>Which color dial would be the most versatile?

Depends, if it's something you'll be wearing to an office job every day then get black. If you'll never be wearing a shirt just get the white, the black with red is far too serious/nerdy for my taste.

>> No.60033675

Is Casio a good watch brand?

>> No.60033677
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>Cant go wrong with the black

>> No.60033678

Depends, which watch are you thinking of?

>> No.60033679


>> No.60033684
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Is this a female version of a selfie?

You guys are freaks.

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>USA MADE reps
>100% accurate
>Even John Mayor bought his work without knowing it was reps
>/g/ still hates him


>> No.60033754

That question makes no sense

>You guys are freaks.
You posted a picture of a little kid

>> No.60033885
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They are pretty based m8, at least for cheap durable digitals.

>> No.60033913

newfag here

is it possible to simply replace crystals on any given watch?

>> No.60033941
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This one. SGW300H-1AVCF

>> No.60033978

Yeah you won't find better for the price with those features. Go for it.

>> No.60034018
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if you don't want a mechanical piece sure

>> No.60034093
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whats everyones grail?

>> No.60034120

no why

>> No.60034133

thats a beautiful vintage

>> No.60034136
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Some dreams will only be dream

>> No.60034157

most watches yeah

>> No.60034189

Damn, that's great. This entire time I've been trying to find a unicorn of a watch with my exact specs, but maybe I can just modify one. Would I be able to replace a flat crystal with a domed crystal?

>> No.60034206

it's not super easy and you need tools, but it's definitely possible

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>> No.60034247

good grail choices anon's

>> No.60034275

awesome, thanks for the info

>> No.60034335
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Newfag to /g/ here, and especially to /wt/, but what do y'all think of Invicta? I got a Pro Diver 12561 a few years back that I wear on occasion. Will do a proper pic later but I'm at work right now. I wear a cheap Casio Illuminator for a daily so it absorbs the wear and tear at work. Any thoughts?

>> No.60034385

Gaudy shit most of them, though people seem to excuse the two-tone prodiver.

Swissfags get triggered from the fact that it's a swiss watch with a miyota drive.

>> No.60034400

>Gaudy shit most of them

>> No.60034460

They have only 1 good watch, I don't remember the ref number right now. It was in the poorfag watch guide infographic
And even that good model looked absolutely terrible without modding.

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>> No.60034507
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>> No.60034586

if you could have any watch you'd get the cheapest fpj with no complications?

>> No.60034596

I'm a sucker for blue dials, and the chronometre bleu probably has the best blue dial out there.

>> No.60034599


That bracelet makes it look like the promotional Nokia watch I got in 1995

Otherwise I like this rolex, prefer the dark gray one

>> No.60034704
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That's why you buy Damasko and don't fall for Sinn tricks. You backed the wrong teutonic horse, bubs.

Friendly reminder that some pernicious faggot jewed Mr. Sinn out of his out company and now it's run with some frankfurtesque faggot's philosophy (frankfurt is the worst german city; worse than anything even in fucking Pomerania lmao).
Never buy Sinn.

With Sinn, you don't win.
>not even a single in house movement

>> No.60034730

thats an attainable grail. good luck

>> No.60034745

My new thread here


>> No.60034750
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the chronobleu is grail caliber for sure

>> No.60034794



If you're not going to format the OP properly, don't fucking bother at all.

>> No.60034812

that's not how you make a thread.
wrong subject and no link to the previous thread.

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White on black dial's objectively easier to see, especially compared to that cream shit with hands at a similar light shade. Militaries figured this shit out well over a century ago; hence all the black dials on issued watches, even pocket watches. My brand of autism doesn't allow for lighter dials and I have worn black, or charcoal, for the past 15 years.

The worst is silver on fucking silver. Impossible to see outside at a glance in bright sunlight. Burn your retinas. Even for a delicate dress watch silver on silver annoys me.

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>The worst is silver on fucking silver.
this is why I didnt buy the rhodium version of my watch. no contrast

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>What do y'all think of Invicta.

>> No.60035581

Can confirm. Best blue in the entire industry.

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