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/mkg/ - Scratchy Switch Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki

Previous thread >>58815779

>> No.58838966

Planning on buying KBParadise V80 soon. Anything I need to know about?

>> No.58839084

Is it possible to switch switches without unsoldering on your run-of-the-mill mechanical keyboard? Not that unsoldering is that difficult, but hey.

>> No.58839110

Doesn't really matter, under $200 preferably.
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
MX Clear or something similar
>Form factor
Prefer not, but doesn't really matter
>Previous/current keyboards
KBParadise V60 Olivette Mechanical Keyboard (Clear Cherry MX)

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>> No.58839183


>> No.58839200
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no u

>> No.58839222

the amount of anal devastation a broken cable has caused you leads me to believe that in the event of an actual crisis, you'd probably just keel over and die on the spot, you massive fucking sperg.

>> No.58839268


I don't know of any other 40% boards you wont need to build yourself. And if you're fine with that, Planck, Atreus, JD40, JD45, MiniVan, Golbat, etc.

found pexon xddd

>> No.58839282

Romer G any good or should I stick to Cherry Reds?

>> No.58839287

Yes, but you will have to take apart every switch and replace stems and springs.

>> No.58839566

are Max Keyboard PBT Keycap Sets any good

>> No.58839658
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purple a best

>> No.58839717


>> No.58839778

how to turn off ANNE PRO?

>> No.58839813

What's the consensus on gat blues?

>> No.58839854

using them right now, really good but some wobble

>> No.58839937

where's the tilde on a pok3r?

>> No.58839952

I would be okay with building if that can provide me with a better keyboard.

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>> No.58840177

If you have PCB mount then yes. If its plate mount then no, unless you have a custom plate

>> No.58840200

You mean like the sony keyboards

>> No.58840221

there are better keycaps, but If you absolutely need a custom set then go for it

>> No.58840280

there's a novatouch in iso

>> No.58841373

whats a good keyboard with light linear switches (cherry red, gateron red/clear)?

>> No.58841514

custom gh60 or maybe an ergodox with gateron clears.

>> No.58841760
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i should have gotten this

>> No.58841800

those caps are ugly

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You should have. I'm looking forward to putting mine on this board once assdrop ships them

>> No.58842214
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Is this kind of post better or worse than my kind of post, /mkg/?

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The fact that you're even asking this question makes your post trash

>> No.58842429

both equally aids filled

>> No.58842762

>Preferred switch type
Cherry mx blue - will settle for shittier, cheaper equivalent
>Form factor
No preference
>Previous/current keyboards
POS laptop keyboard

>> No.58842776

Is the Anne PRO any good? I like my keyboards smell and cheap, preferably with arrow keys. The RGB lighting on the Anne is also pretty sweet. Other, much cheaper choice would be the Magicforce 68.
Thoughts, Mario Kart general?

>> No.58843199

RK61 or Magicforce 68. Maybe the Anne Pro if you can go up to around $80 USD.

>> No.58843397

that might be true, but his vengeance is certainly going to eventually be noticed at this rate. At a geological rate, but still.

>> No.58843447

Why is NKRO not available over USB usually? I've heard that some keyboards provide NKRO over USB by simulating a USB hub, are there any solutions other than that? If I just use a ps2 to USB converter, will NKRO still work? Are there any keyboards that require a driver to be used?

>> No.58843475

Yes. The build quality isn't amazing, but it's quite nice for the price, plus it has Gateron switches, RGB lighting and even Bluetooth, so you definitely get a lot of good extras in exchange for that.

>> No.58843545

Much more annoying because of this faggot's persistence, and how little he contributes to the thread

>> No.58843579
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If i get an acrylic case for my GH60 does it mean i dont have to buy a plate anymore?

>> No.58843752

What do you mean by the build quality isn't amazing? Would the case break on me if it falls one too many times? Are the keys somewhat trash tier?
How do I go about mending this disadvantage, in any case?

>> No.58843889

The keys are pretty decent doubleshot PBT. It isn't really thicc PBT, but it's nice. Some people don't like the font, but that's subjective. The only main thing I guess is that the case is plastic and it isn't completely compatible with other common 60% cases, but it's not bad. There's a nice video review on the Banggood page if you want to see more of it.

Also, who the fuck drops their keyboard?

>> No.58843919

You dont need a plate of you want to PCB mount your switches

>> No.58843981

Best bezel-less full sized keyboard in the ANSI layout?

>> No.58844007

USB does support nkro and hardware interupt, but that costs money and really has no point since its just a keyboard. Nkro is a meme anyway since most rubber domes have 2kro and people game on them just fine. Also modifiers like ctrl, shift, and space don't count towards the limit and the way that the matrix is designed more then two keys can be pressed at a time. 6kro is plenty and even if your keyboard uses ps/2 that doesn't guarantee nkro. If you do want nkro there are active adapters but those can cost anywhere from 20-40 bucks depending on what you want

>> No.58844028

There will always be a bezel no matter what

>> No.58844189

I just wanted to stop in and say I really want an RS96.

>> No.58844203

I may have worded it wrong.

I'm talking about the type of the keyboard case where the bezel doesn't "extend" over the plate at the edges and covers the lower portion of the keycaps.
Kind of like here >>58839658. I don't know the technical term for this.

>> No.58844217

Thats called floating keycaps. E-Element has some cheap ones that cost like 60 bucks on amazon

>> No.58844227

To answer your first question, because the HID USB thing only sends 8 pieces of information at a time. Two of those are used for system stuff, leaving six for keypresses - thus, 6KRO.

>> No.58844234

You could always build one yourself.

>> No.58844241

Please, please link me a kit and I will.

>> No.58844265

I find this image kind of sexual...

>> No.58844318

Why not get a knockoff?

>> No.58844347


>> No.58844395

None of the sites in the where to buy paste have a white pok3r with no backlighting and cherry mx reds.

Where do I buy one of these right now?

>> No.58844451

That is a completely different layout.

Fuckin thanks!

>> No.58844507

Did you even bother to check amazon?

>> No.58844512

Storeuni is doing a group buy right now with a 96-key option

No RS96 style case though, you got winkeyless style acrylic layer case, same but with alu top and bottom layers or a single-piece folded metal case+plate combo

>> No.58844535

>nkro is a meme
I'd rather be considered weak of mind than not be able to literally faceroll my opponents.

About those active adapters. Where can I find one? What do I search for?

>> No.58844574

Any opinions on the Cooler Master Quickfire XT or Rapid? Looks just like a Filco Majestitouch board?

A friend has both of these that he hasn't even taken out of the box and is selling them cheap.

>> No.58844596

Good basic boards

>> No.58844601

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/ sells pok3r keyboards, you dolt. They are custom and they hide the name, but they are pok3rs.

>> No.58844639

If you really want to fall for the meme so badly then amazon sells some. Also if your keyboard doesn't support nkro by default an active adapter won't change that. You'ld need to build a converter

>> No.58844664

The new full size cooler masters are rebranded Filco keyboards

>> No.58844673

well, I already fell for the mechanical switch meme, may as well go all the way. What do I search for, "active ps2-to-usb adapter"?

>> No.58844684

Oh are they actually pokers?

Thanks anon, for some reason all the Amazon sellers looked sketchy to me but this seems ok.

>> No.58844697

uh... wait. they're black.

>> No.58844720

You got a problem with black keyboards, anon? Don't be racist now.

>> No.58844732

Well it is legit so if you want you can buy it from their site instead

>> No.58844747

First of all does your keyboard support nkro? What is it?

>> No.58844823

I'm considering my options. I will maybe buy a b.mini, which has nkro over ps2, 6kro USB. I would go for a nkro-over-usb keyboard if it also checked all the other boxes in my wish-list *and* had an easy way to switch to normal 6kro-usb in case of compatibility problems which I know exist. That is very unlikely, I understand.

>> No.58845169

why not get a choc mini since that has a similar layout and nkro

>> No.58845203

you'll need one of these

>> No.58845254

1.-Hit-or-miss build quality. User reviews mention iffy behaviour a few months in; screw that.
2.-No floating key design. Full NKRO is pretty low on my list of desired features and my computer has ps2 anyway. I'm still interested in knowing as much as I can about nkro stuff, though, so pretend I didn't just say that.

Does the noppoo have some kind of switch to disable nkro? How does it deal with OSs that can't handle it?

>> No.58845291

much obliged. Do you know if the nkro carries over through these converters?

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>How does it deal with OSs that can't handle it?
there is a work around in which you plug the keyboard into a passive USB to PS/2 adapter, then plug that into an active PS/2 to USB adapter

It does

>> No.58845374

I had to do this a few years ago before I was a PC gamer to use my Choc Mini with a XIM Edge.
When you use >>58845311 you lose the NKRO, so just 6KRO.
You will be able to use the keyboard on something that doesn't support the NKRO thing when you use the USB->PS/2->USB thing.
My XIM Edge didn't support it but when I used the adaptor chain it worked.
>1.-Hit-or-miss build quality. User reviews mention iffy behaviour a few months in; screw that.
I think you are talking about chattering. FN+F10 and FN+F11 allows you to change the debouncing time if that becomes a problem. I only used the board for a year or so but didn't have chattering issues, I bought an HHKB because I wanted to try out Topre.
>Does the noppoo have some kind of switch to disable nkro?
No, there's just the adaptor chain.

>> No.58845407

>My XIM Edge didn't support it but when I used the adaptor chain it worked.
My XIM Edge was incompatible with the Choc Mini's NKRO thing so when I used the chain it removed that.
>1.-Hit-or-miss build quality. User reviews mention iffy behaviour a few months in; screw that.
Should elaborate. I had the POM keycaps one and the side printing wore off quickly and the top legends got messed up too but slower. They're still visible, unlike the side printing which is completely gone. The top printing just got darker, possibly because grime got in it.
The POM material itself isn't so bad but it's pretty smooth.

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Bought some Filco SA profile double shot ABS keycaps yesterday (dark brown with cream legends). Did I make a mistake?

>> No.58845622

that camo is ugly

>> No.58845629

I prefer PBT over ABS, but to each his own

>> No.58845656


That's not my board. Just an example I found online.

Me too. Wish they were pbt and had different colored common keys, but they were only $55. Cheapest SA set I could find by about $100.

>> No.58845666

Is that supposed to be comfy?

>> No.58846007

does anyone know how many colors the pok3r rgb is capable of?

>> No.58846029

>still no totally silent mechanical keyboards

kill me

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Friendly reminder Tada68 is now on Aliexpress.


>> No.58846037

16.8 million

>> No.58846057

that's physically impossible, but there are mechanical keyboards that are quieter then rubber domes

>> No.58846312


Fuck me this is exactly what I wanted to do
has anyone here ever tried it?

>> No.58846344

>not using space forged mech kb

>> No.58846359
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good night /mkg/

>> No.58846386

/mkg/, why are you not using Gateron Blue switches to replace your Cherry MX Blues?

>> No.58846954

Fuck, already ordered mine from Taobao. Probably going to be a little bit cheaper though, so that's not terrible.

>> No.58846960

I don't want to wake up my neighbors when using my computer.

>> No.58846984

because both of them are terrible. low tactility and annoying as fuck sound feedback

>> No.58847029

are gateron reds better than cherry reds

>> No.58847054

gateron stem with cherry spring + housing is best.

>> No.58847171

In my experience, gateron housings are better for linears and cherry housings are better for tactiles.

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Reminder that the GMK terminal buy ends in <3 hours.

>> No.58847647

>sculptured profile

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>non-sculptured profile

>> No.58847713

Why do we need a neverending general for this shit? How much is there to say about springs inside a plastic case?

>> No.58847739

there are new things always being released and there are always people looking for recommendations

>> No.58847763


>> No.58847810

Has anyone tried chinese mechanical keyboards ? I can get one with fake blue-switches for $40 from ali

>> No.58847816
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i posted here for a few weeks when i was learning about mechanicals keyboards figuring out which keyboard to get. i'd imagine most people in these threads don't stay very long. but then there are the autists that make it their life-long mission to obsess about these things.

anyway, would you say that blue switches are for newfags like do they have an excessive amount of tactile and audible feedback or are blue switches for fags like should you have even clunkier keys?

>> No.58847823

That's not true because that's simply not how LEDs work. All you're doing is essentially turning the brightness up or down on 3 different LEDs: red, green and blue. If there were also black and white LEDs, yeah, you could have 16 million colors or whatever, but it doesn't work like that. You can't make things like brown or gray for example. That doesn't mean it's shit, just that the number that companies use to market RGB everything is extremely exaggerated.

>> No.58847836

chink keyboards are basically 90% of the recommendations here

>> No.58847864

look at keyboards in the $80-120 range if you can afford them but a $40 keyboard could be fine if you just want to try it and you're not sure exactly which type of keyboard you want yet

>> No.58847883

and a $40 mech will probably still be much better than a membrane keyboard

>> No.58847943

the colors blend together. it's the same how an LCD monitor works. 256 red * 256 green * 256 blue = 16777216 different colors.

>> No.58848033

Except that works on a much smaller scale, and monitors aren't simply just those 3 LEDs when you consider things like backlight. Yes, they do blend, but that happens on a larger scale on a keyboard, and since there isn't anything else apart from just turning the LED brightness up or down, you don't have the same amount of colors. I'm not saying that you can't set a huge amount of different colors to it, just that no one should be expecting to be able to set any color they want on a keyboard, because as I said, you just can't get some darker shades like brown and grey. It usually ends up looking like dim orange/white.

>> No.58848085

how do i learn to like mx clears? i made a mistake and got a nippon board with clears and to say i hate it is an understatement. Should i ebay it?

i'll be reading something and realized i've typed
into some random text box. why do these switches even exist?

>> No.58848158

it depends on the keyboard but there's the color adjustment for each LED and then there's an additional overall brightness adjustment which is like the backlight on a monitor. you might not get for example a perfectly clean full-spectrum white color since the light is made up of red+blue+green instead of the full light spectrum like on a lightbulb but you should still be able to get pretty much any color you want. if each LED can't go all the way down to zero you might get the problem that you're describing but unless there's a problem with pok3r or some other specific keyboard i'd be more worried about flickering than not being able to set a specific color.

>> No.58848170

do you mean gateron clears?

>> No.58848372
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$40, TKL, blue switches
y/n ?

>> No.58848405
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y and be prepared to replace it

>> No.58848422

why replace ?

>> No.58848449
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It's the cheapest of the cheap Chinese made mechanical boards.

Chiner isn't known for good soldering or quality PCBs even in the best of products.

>> No.58848462

ABS caps

>> No.58848482

>fart noise

>> No.58848727

You should have, except that mass drop is a freakin' meme.
I just got the Braun keycaps and THEY WON'T SHIP UNTIL JUNE

>> No.58848757

can't you DIY something like that pretty easily

>> No.58848783

they're die sublimated so the ink is actually swirled into the plastic somehow and won't ever fade. also side printed for usability which is decent.

>> No.58848897

I have extremely weak hands, how hard are cherry reds to push? And are there any mechanical keyboards that have a low height?

>> No.58848905

get a wrist wrest, reds are easymode

>> No.58848908

>only brown, red and black are visibly textured
2/10 try harder

>> No.58848912

are you new to group buys or something

they all take months

>> No.58848915

also get this, has helped me greatly.

>> No.58849090

Where can I find a Pok3r with a white case and brown switches? RGB would be nice for playing around with. Can't find anywhere with stock.

>> No.58849257

Man, that's clean. Tada68 or Anne PRO, /mkg/? It's gonna be my first one.

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C-can I join the kawaii club? I brought some delicious PBT (that will probably get replaced).

>> No.58849319

cherry profile keys are lower but the bottom row will still be like an inch above the desk

>> No.58849328
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pics needs more high socks

>> No.58849343

TADA68. Just got mine and it's great. Easy transition from full size keyboards and fully programmable.

>> No.58849359

Are TOMOKO's switches knock offs?

>> No.58849386
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>Registered On2016-06-20

>Cherry "Low profile switch"
>Filing date Jul 12, 1983

yeah i think so anon

>> No.58849395

yes but it's not necessarily a bad thing. some of the copy cats are actually considered to be better than modern cherry and cherry uses old molds which have become warped over time

>> No.58849402
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fug I'm not that kawaii. How about a Kirby instead?

>> No.58849417

Alright, the only problem I realistically have is shipping. I live in pretty much the Mexico of Asia so should I have it shipped from wherever to the US then have a forwarder get it to my place, or have it shipped directly to me over here? First time ordering from aliexpress, should be relatively foolproof but I'd rather be safe than a nigger

>> No.58849428
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That is a nice kirby

>> No.58849466

Are Tada68 keys in the regular format?
Are there any abbreviations that I have to keep in mind if I'm going to switch keycap set one day?

>> No.58849503
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Looks like right Alt, Fn, Ctrl, and Shift are all non-standard.

A lot of keycaps will still give enough to fill it out, SP sets, GMK, Enjoypbt I think, and so on

>> No.58849517

what is that keyboard, first one with LED's I haven't hated

>> No.58849529

which are considered the best knockoff switches? (khail, gateron, outemu etc)

>> No.58849536

Sadly, I didn't order from aliexpress so I can't help you there. I ordered from Originative during the second group buy. I think if you feel the location you're at is safe enough for mail in general, it should be okay. But aliexpress can take a long ass time.

Right alt, fn, and ctrl are non-standard but my GMK set came with some blanks that fit. They look great on it. I think my Modern Beige set came with some keys that fit too, with legends and such.

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modified lolita

>> No.58849625


>> No.58849628

Darn. There's a chance I might get chinked but it's a 97% or so approval rating reseller. Thinking whether I should bite the bullet.

>> No.58849648

I haven't bought from them (KBDfans) before, but I think other people have. They seem to have a good enough reputation.

>> No.58849685

I'll ask around in /csg/ and Google a bit regarding others experiences. I could always get the Anne PRO, from banggood, but I don't actually know which of these chinks are better to order from.

From what I've read, the Anne PRO tends to have crappie stabilizers, but I know that the Tada68 is pretty much a beauty.

>> No.58849842

A debouncing timer? What the fuck. I tried to use that for the absolute shit keyboard on my laptop, and all I can say is I hate that so much that I just leave the bboouunnccee on. I don't even remember why, specifically. I remember a lot of vomiting, then passing out, then waking up and turning it off, and nothing else.

It boggles my mind that they would accept chatter as a design feature to the point they'd actually include that timer.

Anyway. I've heard of sinless nkro over usb implementations, but there's no sense in actually looking for it, since it seems so rare. Maybe if I were a true programmer I could find it and flash it into my keyboard. Thanks for the help, guys.

>> No.58849867

say 75% or else i'll go into an internet fit.

Gotta look into that, it's just what I was looking for.

>> No.58849878

Why is mx green the best switch?

>> No.58849944

noppoo choc mini would be a step up (at a higher price level tho)

>> No.58849954

or keycool 84

>> No.58850067

Need a keyboard. Was using membrane shit for a while

Thinking of going with a mechanical.

Looking for one thats good for gaming, and is backlit (preferably green or blue lighting)

No budget really, just dont want cheap shit

Any suggestions?

>> No.58850091

do you want a full-size keyboard with a numpad and everything? because you usually don't need a numpad for gaming and if you get a smaller keyboard you'll have more room left over for mouse movements and you can still have a separate numpad if you want

>> No.58850107


Doesnt matter really. If the keyboard id good but lacking a number pad Ill judt buy a seperate one. Main focus is the actual keyboard.

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As cheap as possible, of course but still durable. Sub 100€ would be good.
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Nothing noisy, tacticle feedback preferred
ISO, probably
>Form factor
Full preferably but still small/compact. If that's too hard, no numpad is just fine.
Don't care too much, might be a neat thing to play around with though.
>Previous/current keyboards
Some Cherry keyboard with MX Blue switches. Too loud when I have people over or feel like typing away for longer times.

>> No.58850336

Ok so..... I grew up in the 80s. I remember the "ktang ktang" sound of old keyboards as someone typed on them.
I also remember when keyboards got really quiet almost over night
My question:
Whats the big deal? Why the prefrence of mechanical clicketyclak over quiet keyboards? Can someone explain it to meet please? I really dont get it.
The way i figured it : a keyboard is just a friggin keyboard. And any old keyboard will do.

>> No.58850363

membrane feels like shit

>> No.58850374

a chair is just a chair, a beer is just a beer, a steak is just a steak etc

>> No.58850454

Some people use a keyboard for 12+ hours a day so they like to have something comfortable, durable and customized for their needs.

>> No.58850600

A good solid argument. However.
I too have worked IT jobs and have used membrane keyboarss the whole time. Never ever looked at the keyboard and said "damn this feels like shit wtf am i doing with my life using this tyoe of keyboard."
Makes sense.
I have nothing to compare this to so i can not agree or disagree with you on this point yoy have made

>> No.58850694

If you have a working keyboard that doesn't misbehave, and you're looking at a 130$ mechanical keyboard, then you have at leasst 130 reasons not to buy that keyboard. But it does feel better. If you dive in deep, what you should actually be doing is looking at all the small features you would like and trying to get a keyboard that has them all. If you want a particular layout, or if you want a particular design, some materials, iunno.

It's certainly not about value, because if that were so, no keyboard would be worth more than 10$. Personally I see no point in trying to convince a skeptic that mechanical keyboards are worth it, because "a cheap keyboard does the trick" is 100% true anyway. If you like mechanical switches and have disposable income, though, you might like the quality-of-life upgrades or the fashion upgrades.

And then there's the people who buy razer, who are paying a company for them to assure them that they chose correctly. Never again.

>> No.58850861

Razer's marketing is so fucking bizarre and cult-like.

Their latest Blackwidow ad has a praying mantis and a fly discussing mechanical keyboards, with the mantis being a Razerfag and the fly buying a generic mechanical keyboard. The mantis brags about Razer's huge selection of 3 different switch types, the fly admits to eating and enjoying shit, then the mantis eats the fly.

Apparently people who don't buy Razer products eat and enjoy shit.

>> No.58850885
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>DSA Otaku
>A few sets have been added to inventory.

>> No.58850963

I have a few razer things. Major complaints: their mouse, mice being their flagship product, broke within a year. That pisses me off so much I can't fucking express it in words. And it's something that doesn't come up on reviews, because there's no reviewer on earth that includes MTTF. It's undermined my faith in all reviewers, even those I respect.

Then there's the drivers. These drivers ask you to login with an email and password. What the fuck. It's bad on so many levels that I would still hate razer even if it really were as high quality as they think they are.

I'm 100% fine with a company that sells "cool" and "good" products that are more expensive and less quality than those available at other companies, if it means you don't have to think about the details. Because not getting the best deal isn't necessarily getting scammed.

But razer fucked me over with pricey bullshit that has been proven not to be reliable, and by generally having tactics favoring profiting off of people who think they are high quality and just trust them.

>> No.58851116

Gateron browns vs MX browns vs MX ergo clears, discuss.

>> No.58851128

ergo clears > *

>> No.58851167

Where can I get custom keycaps printed? So far I've only seen it available on wasdkeys.com, where they let you upload a file and they'll print whatever the fuck you want on them. Other so-called custom keycaps only sell pre-designed sets... that I know of.

>> No.58851195

Ergo > Gat > German scat porn

>> No.58851353


>> No.58851420

Looking into building a board for a set of switches I have coming in the mail, anyone know where I can pick up a solid acrylic case or PCB?
Preferably a high-profile case, I'll also need to pick up a plate, most likely aluminium.
I'm also a little scared of the PCB clones since I don't really want to have to desolder the switches in the case the PCB gives out, does anyone have any experience with b.fakes of GH60 fakes?

On a side note does anyone have any experience with ZealPC's gold plated stabilizers?
I've heard good things about them but I'm not sure they warrent the price-tag.

>> No.58851512

>gold plated stabilizers
Dude, no.

>> No.58851518

yea sorry, i just looked at the order and their gaterons clears

could I key another switch type cheap? I'd love this board with some mx browns or mx blues in it. Build quality and size are great, but i thought i would try a linear switch and got burned bad.

>> No.58851528


On the first point you won't know it feels like shit
until you have tried the alternative. For me it took
three keyboards before I finally understood what
people meant when they said that membrane
boards felt 'mushy', now I would describe membrane
boards as 'swamp-like' as they seem to pull in my fingers
and not want to let go which slows my typing down to a degree.

It did take me three boards to realise this though I suspect it was largely
the last of the three with MX Clears.

>> No.58851541

I've heard they have reduced rattle when compared
to alterantives, seems like a good enough reason
to pick them up if I'm spending $300 on making
my own board?

>> No.58851559


Gateron clears are arse, a 35g actuation force on a
linear board? What were you thinking picking that thing
up? Seriously?

>> No.58851624
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Gat clears are awesome, learn to control your fingers properly

>> No.58851642

i got a g610 orion with red switches for $50. good/bad?

>> No.58851652

Its not that I can't type on them but during
extended typing sessions I often rest my hands on
my board which ends up inputting a whole load of
shit on gat clears.

>> No.58851728
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Need some help picking a wrist wrest for a poker 2, any recommendations from you fags?

>> No.58851740

It's a shit board, but for only 50 bucks, it's quite decent.

How do you even rest your hands on the keyboard though? Do you move your whole hand forward to rest it on the keyboard or how does that work?


>> No.58851778

Yeah, I don't use a wrist or palm rest so when
I'm resting my hands I generally move my entire hand
forward onto the keyboard so that my wrists are resting
on it while I'm thinking or whatever, which is fine on my
MX clears but doesn't work so well with linear switches like
Gat clears or MX reds.

Not everyone will have this problem though since I don't
think everyone rest their hands like me obviously

>> No.58851780

Don't get those stabs. The metal screws and nuts can short the connections on the PCB, forcing you to remove traces.

Literal garbage.

>> No.58851791

That sounds like an issue more with the PCB
not being grounded correctly?

>> No.58851806

No, it's an issue of conductive, metal parts being placed over the pads for alternate switch placements.

>> No.58851830

Alright I guess I'll pick up the normal stabs and just
lube them to reduce clatter.

Thanks for the warning

>> No.58852203

Did you check amazon, mechanicalkeyboards, meckkeys, Corus, etc.

>> No.58852241

he clearly didnt becuase they all have them in stock

>> No.58852275

Cherry clears > gaterons > cherry shit

>> No.58852331

Did you check maxkeyboard

>> No.58852437

the pc gaming race one is cringe but cheap and good
get the low profile one though, it's tall enough

>> No.58852490

Just go to target and buy a towel you like

>> No.58852506

wtf?? how can you possibly justify gold plating on stabilizers?

>> No.58852532

it's for the type of people who spend $1000 on some fancy Duck-made korean custom that only had 20 ever made

>> No.58852579

Thank you for the suggestion. I took a look at it, it's generally more expensive than wasdkeys BUT you can get translucent personalized keycaps, which is cool.

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I'm considering to buy my first mechanical keyboard.
Cheap as possible. (At end it will be expensive for the shipping fee)
>Location (continent at least)
Uhg... South America
>Preferred switch type
Had hear good things about MX Blue, and BX Brown.
>Form factor
The backlit keys are okay. Preferably one color. No LEDs.
>Previous/current keyboards
Thinkpad keyboard?

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I'm considering to buy my first mechanical keyboard.
Cheap as possible. (At end it will be expensive for the shipping fee)
>Location (continent at least)
Uhg... South America
>Preferred switch type
I've heard good things about MX Blue, and BX Brown.
ISO but ANSI it's fine too.
>Form factor
The backlit keys are okay. Preferably one color. No LEDs.
>Previous/current keyboards
Thinkpad keyboard counts?

>> No.58853358
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Am >>58828528 from previous thread.

Missus bought me pic related.

That appears to be the correct one, yah?

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>> No.58853385


Thanks for letting me know about this awesome site.

Just ordered three pexon cables for my three boards.

>> No.58853387

>tfw I will never know love like that because I'll already have a mechanical keyboard by the time I get a girlfriend

Should I save myself for marriage or just buy it now?

>> No.58853467
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>go from TKL Topre to 60% Poker II w/ MX Blues
>sell poker to friend after much pressure
>get TKL Ducky One w/ MX Blues

I am le pleased.

And yes, those are Razer keycaps.

>> No.58853474

You lucky son of a bitch

>> No.58853479

What exactly do you mean by "cheap as possible"? It's easier to make recommendations if you have a number.

You might look for a RK61 or a Magicforce. Both probably have free shipping too from chink sellers.

>> No.58853640

>Implying you can get more mechanical keyboards
I'm have three currently, and would like to get another to replace my work keyboard.

>> No.58853828

Between 100-200 USD.

>> No.58853905

You can get a Lolita Spyder, the ISO UK layout is available from UK Amazon, don't know if they ship to you though. Have blue/black/brown and maybe reds. No backlight.

Since ANSI is okay you might consider some Chink shit one.

>> No.58853953
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Wasn't the Japanese version supposed to be less stupid than the normal version?

>> No.58853995

Anne pro from banggood or TADA68 from aliexpress

>> No.58854135

That's hardly what I'd consider cheap. You can get quite a few nice keyboards for 100-200 USD.
Still, the Anne Pro and TADA68 recommendations from that other anon are nice. The TADA68 specially.

>> No.58854225

If he's from brazil 200 bucks wont get him anything. Just look at how much Ducky keyboards sell for

>> No.58854238

Luckly I'm not Brazilian.

>> No.58854245

he specified USD so he should be good

>> No.58854481

Honestly why

>> No.58854493

artisan keycaps are fucking aids.

>> No.58854497

Left-shift + ESC

>> No.58854568

This is pretty accurate. I have a Mionix mouse with RGB logo that's customisable through the software. You can type the value of the R/G/B to adjust the colour, but even going up or down in steps of 10 seems to make no difference, only the ~30 default colours actually work.

In contrast, the 'Palit' logo on my GTX1080 has far more customisation, and you can actually dim or brighten the colour as well as mixing RGB. It's possible to create fluorescent tones, pastel tones, or anything in between.

>> No.58854616

40-80% is a huge leap mate

>> No.58854670
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I got my first mech the other day, didn't realize how much louder the blues would be then the reds on my friends mech but it doesn't bother me.

I actually somewhat enjoy typing now

>> No.58854755

>debouncing timer
Debouncing time I meant.
>sinless nkro over usb
USB natively supports 6KRO.
Do you know the sinless implementation?
By the way, if you're using Windows you should be fine with the Choc Mini.

>> No.58855654

>fake MS mouse steelseries chinkshit
>razer keycaps
>le pleased

I bet you own a tshirt with rage comics on it.

>> No.58856185

>not ABS

>> No.58856241

Disgusting and pointless.

>> No.58856253
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My keyboard arrived in the mail today. Typing on it feels soo nice~

Thanks for all the advice guise :3

>> No.58856267

Gold plating on something that small doesn't cost shit.

The springs in my ergo clear board are gold plated and they were like $2 more than regular steel springs. Plus they wont corrode with the plating.

>> No.58856307

which keyboard

>> No.58856365

Masterkeys Pro S. Got myself Tai-Hao Miami keycap set and a wooden wrist rest made of black walnut wood.

>> No.58856442

post pics my man!

>> No.58856734

or Plum 84 if you want 35g topre clones

>> No.58856916

Anything better than a Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid in the same price range?

>> No.58856968

Depends in some places you can get Ducky's orLeopolds for the same price

>> No.58857435

My Leopold finally came. The build quality compared to that shitty Das pro 4 I returned is night and day. Cheers senpaitachi.

>> No.58857466

Well, my LEDs and SIP sockets came in the other day and I just ordered a bunch of switches for my Shine 3 rebuild. This should be a fun weekend.

>> No.58857476

iso ftw gtfo fag

>> No.58857496


>> No.58857524

god i hate this kind of posting, just posting his guns and putting his shit tier keyboard in the back. nothing just murica like posting your weapons on an anonymous animu imageboard

>> No.58857684

the guns arent even the main issue
the retarded avatarfagging is

>> No.58857772

>Topre came in the mail

Man, this is nice. Anyone who says this is a rubber dome can go kill themselves, they're 2 different things. Fingers bounce off the keys, something that MX doesn't really do. Bottoms out more smoothly than a rubber dome. Just thought that there would be more tactility but for now I guess it's alright. Definitely better than MX reds.

>> No.58857805

Hello mkg

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Idk, I need it for programming, pls recommend a comfy one
>Form factor
Tkl, but my fetish is that there's no space between the keys and they form one big block
>Previous/current keyboards
Pos keyboard

Thanks for helping friends!

>> No.58857870

>my fetish is
hold on, do you mean a 75%? Like this one?>>58848372
It's 40$ according to anon, take a look at it.

>> No.58857875

The less the better, but it should be under 70€
>Preferred switch type
Mx red
>Form factor
Yes please, but I don't need RGB

>> No.58857885

>fingers bounce off the keys
I think I just had a revelation. Now it makes sense why people would ever want that rubber dome stuff.

>> No.58857887

>comparing anything to mx red

>> No.58857920

yes, exactly like this, but i don't like the white panel, wat do?
Anyway thanks for the suggestion anon, i will consider the ak33 if i can't find a full black one

Also would you use mx blues or blacks?

>> No.58858021


I can get it for $50. Anything better around there?

>> No.58858066

Um. Maybe I misunderstood. At any rate the one I'm referring to is a custom driver for a really old capacitive keyboard, but I see no reason it can't be used on any modern keyboard: http://downloads.cornall.co/ibm-capsense-usb-web/ibm-capsense-usb.html#x1-160003.3.2

>> No.58858100

Hey anons

i got a corsair STRAFE RGB (cherry red) for a present and i honestly hate it and also i don't like the software it crashes all the time along with resetting macros on my corsair mouse

or it randomly doesn't work and i have to restart my pc.

So before this i had logitech G500 and it was really good but broke after 3 years of hard use

So i have a friend who has an untouched G910 Spectrum Keyboard and G600s Mouse

for £120

you think its worth it to switch?

>> No.58858115

personally i'd use blues over blacks, but don't take it from me, i use neither.

Also, paint over stuff. There aren't many mechanical keyboards that cheap, (god knows what the caveat is), so if you want to hit that price point along with a bunch of arbitrary demands, some simple modding might help a lot. The switches on it obviously aren't cherries, the entire thing costs less than 86 cherry switches.

>> No.58858119
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Logitech is on a similar level of shit as corsair. Sell the strafe and come back for a proper recommendation.

>> No.58858142

The TADA68 is $60 on Taobao, but you might have to pay up to $20 for shipping.

>> No.58858161

if you want a RGB keyboard with software that works get a masterkeys pro

>> No.58858208

Thank you anon

>> No.58858238

I know about that one, but i don't know japanse or whatever that site is... So i don't know how to order from it

>> No.58858371

I've ordered mine using Basetao. Paid $60 for the keyboard and then about $25 for shipping. You just go to the website, create an account, charge money on it, paste the product link on the main page and buy it through there.

>> No.58858479

Sorry for my ignorance, but how did you select an item? There are several tada68 listings on the site with subtle differences in the chinese signs

>> No.58858615

I've ordered from this link, but I think there are other sellers there: https://world.taobao.com/item/537653557670.htm?fromSite=main

Looks like they only have it available with Gateron blues. I've never tried them, but I have Cherry blues and they feel great to type on, but they're a bit loud, and people say Gateron blues are even louder.

The switch options on the one I linked are the buttons without pictures, so only "键盘→青轴白光", which means "Keyboard - blue switch white backlight". For some reason the other options are still available if you try to order using Basetao, but I'm not sure what's going on there.

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Anyone familiar with the TOMOKO/VicTsing?
Can i put those keycaps on it:



>> No.58859632

>friend offered me his mech keyboard
>Ozone Strike Battle
He says the only downside is that its missing the F2 key, but i know hes a rager and probably smashed it a couple of times
should i buy it?

>> No.58860068

god no, you can buy a cheap ass tkl like that with all the keys attached for that price, your friend is a turd.

>> No.58860150


>> No.58860441


I have absolutely no idea about keycaps. just want to replace the old ones.
what would be your preferred alternative to iso-caps?

>> No.58860533
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>$60 for 60% modifiers

>> No.58860719

whats tkl ? is it the thing where they dont have numpad ?
and what are some examples of keyboard like that ? im west EU

>> No.58860739

>what would be your preferred alternative to iso-caps?
How about you throw your ISO keyboard into the trash

>> No.58860747

Yes, TKL means tenkeyless, which are keyboard without the numpad.

Get a Magicforce if you want something compact and cheap.

>> No.58860755

A Ducky keyboard will do. You can get a One TKL for 80€ here in Belgium

>> No.58860812

just out of curiosity do you not have eyes? There is a picture right in front of you. Use something called compare and contrast.

>> No.58860858

Why is it impossible to find a modern keyboard with keycaps such as pic related? I would be more than willing to drop a few hundred for a full sized keyboard with them and a volume rocker

>> No.58860865

I know right, totally agree....

>> No.58860868
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>pic related

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Oops, forgot pic related

>> No.58860903

Granite was a group buy, aka a limited run made to order for pre orders. You're going to have to keep checking geekhack and massdrop to catch the next one.

>> No.58860939
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why would you want shitty overpriced signature plastic keycaps. Vortex makes some DSA sets, and so do the chinks like pic related.
>volume rocker
that's a big meme everyone has moved on to dedicated media keys that can be reprogrammed

again also granite dropped last week and sold out in like three hours, so you snooze you lose

>> No.58861010

those chink keycaps are thin as fuck plastic, and the legends are really poorly printed.

>> No.58861022

black or reds hurry

>> No.58861040

black obv

>> No.58861046


>> No.58861057

gateron blacks

>> No.58861159

Neither, whites are better than all those minorities.

>> No.58861179

I looked up the keycap set you listed and what your deemed as being cheap is a little over $100 all said and done, for some chinese shit that has a horrible color combo

>> No.58861193

These looks great, thanks guys these keyboards looks pretty much what i'm looking for. If a buy one of these i will come back. Thanks guises.
Sorry my Pajeet tier English btw

>> No.58861257

>Location (continent at least)
north america
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
membrane stock keyboard

help me out senpai

>> No.58861264

there like 81 bucks with free shipping, you also get a whole lot more keycaps. The equivalent set from SP would cost you $220+

>> No.58861282

thx, ill look for it
uhmm, i wanted something cheap
i have membrane right now

>> No.58861300

Is the Planck actually comfortable to use or a huge meme? It's due to go on massdrop again and I'm quite tempted to get one since I have a bag of switches lying about unused.

>> No.58861303

then get a tomoko for 35€

>> No.58861373

>Location (continent at least)
North America
>Preferred switch type
no preference
>Form factor
no preference
>Previous/current keyboards
some logitech bluetooth keyboard
roccat isku fx

Thanks in advance for help

>> No.58861401

Ducky keyboards have nice build quality as well as media macros that can be rebound to any key

I have a full size one so I rebound them all to my numpad on layer 2

>> No.58861436

This. Get a ducky, you quacker.

>> No.58861454

me again, i found a magicforce for 22 bucks but shipping to europe is 20€
could you tell me about a similar cheap company that is in europe ?
i could just give my friend a favor and buy his keyboard for that price

>> No.58861459

Thank you! I think I will. Just talked to my friend, turns out he has a ducky and he has no complaints about it.

>> No.58861483

What is a keyboard that has normal 1.5 bottom row keys with a normal spacebar, has rgb lighting, as well as a wheel for the volume?

>> No.58861500

1.5 isn't normal, 1.25 is

>> No.58861507

>wheel for the volume
why just get dedicated mechanical keys like a normal person

>> No.58861535

None. You want a volume wheel, you're getting Das or gamer trash. Das has no backlighting, gamer trash has non-standard bottom row. You literally want a product that doesn't exist.

>> No.58861549

Actually, while my sights are still set on the ducky keyboard, what does /mkg/ think of this one?


>> No.58861594

It's okay, but Ducky has nkro over USB, which can be disabled if you have compatibility problems. Ducky also has the same exact features expect for the configurable layout so it's really up to you

>> No.58861652

I figured as much after looking around for a good hour or two

>> No.58861690

just bought blacks now i have arthritis -.-

>> No.58861725


I tried to have luck finding a model m at the thrift stores in my city. No luck.

Then I decided to check out local Computer shops and got lucky.

>> No.58862187

send me a link for that price or else i'm going to assume you're lying

>> No.58862200

set a macro which uses a key combo + mouse wheel or other keys for volume

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are the mx greens eco friendly?

is that why green

>> No.58862359

That's pretty fucking fresh, but it'd look out of place on any sort of rig that's not an iMac.

>> No.58862759


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